[01:47] <hatch> lazyPower: ping
[14:58] <hatch> lazyPower: mbruzek1 https://github.com/hatched/ghost-charm/issues/27
[14:58] <mbruzek1> hatch I saw that
[14:58] <mbruzek1> I will give it a shot as soon as I can
[14:58] <lazyPower> hatch: same
[14:59] <hatch> awesome :)
[14:59] <mbruzek1> thanks for the update
[14:59] <mbruzek1> The ghost charm is really nice
[15:00] <hatch> now if I can only figure out the apache charm for url redirects I could transfer my own blog haha
[15:02] <mbruzek1> hatch how do I try it out?  branch your git repo?
[15:02] <mbruzek1> clone?
[15:03] <mbruzek1> nevermind I figured it out while typing my question
[15:03] <jrwren> hatch: honestly, I don't grok the apache charm. IMO it is easier to fork the charm and change it for my own purposes and just use that. :)
[15:04] <hatch> jrwren: yeah I was thinking that, but even that seams like it's way complicated
[15:05] <hatch> I may have to write my own since I can't seem to get the author to respond to my q's :)
[15:05] <hatch> lazyPower: ^ there is probably a community issue here somewhere :)
[15:05] <jrwren> hatch: I don't know. It depends on how well written the apache charm is. Should be as simple as fork, edit http.conf tempate.
[15:06] <jrwren> hatch: another option, depending on your goals is to include apache in your web app charm. For simple configs is likely doesn't make much sense without.
[15:06] <hatch> yeah I just need to add a single line redirect from the ghost charm into the apache charm on relation
[15:07] <lazyPower> you send a base64 vhost config when using apache
[15:07] <lazyPower> or you can wait for the nginx charm to land and use a modern httpd
[15:07] <hatch> not sure I want to wait until 2016 :P
[15:07] <lazyPower> write your own? ;)
[15:08] <hatch> haha I don't have the time to write the ghost char
[15:08] <lazyPower> i did hear however that kwmonroe was doing reviews on the nginx stack
[15:08] <lazyPower> like, a week ago
[15:08] <lazyPower> so its probably closer to done than you think
[15:09] <hatch> yeah I wonder how we can build a community around charms
[15:09] <hatch> people working on them should be able to post to some forum somewhere or something
[15:09] <hatch> maybe add discourse to jujucharms.com?
[15:10] <lazyPower> i would say a section on discourse would be an excellent start
[15:10] <lazyPower> but as it stands now - we're getting dangerously close to too many sources of information
[15:11] <lazyPower> we have reddit, juju.ubuntu.com, jujucharms.com, the mailing list, ask ubuntu
[15:11] <lazyPower> just to name a few
[15:11] <jrwren> I think there is charms tag on askubuntu.com
[15:11] <hatch> but is there anywhere for a community to develop around charms though?
[15:11] <jrwren> ah, just a juju tag which includes charms
[15:12] <jrwren> hatch: askubuntu is not a bad place IMO.
[15:12] <hatch> but that's only for questions
[15:12] <lazyPower> right
[15:12] <hatch> you can't say "hey peeps I'm making a charm for X, feature requests?"
[15:12] <lazyPower> the problem i have with that is there's no place for conjecture around charm approach and sideline conversation
[15:12] <jrwren> it would be nice if there was a juju portal for askubuntu, most folks won't go to the effort of searching just juju tags there.
[15:12] <lazyPower> discourse would be an ideal place
[15:12] <hatch> there is discourse.ubuntu.com
[15:13] <hatch> maybe we could make a section on there?
[15:13] <jrwren> hatch: you just volonteered!
[15:13] <hatch> linked from jujucharms of course
[15:13] <lazyPower> wish castro was around this week
[15:13] <lazyPower> i would also ping rick_h_ and see if something like that would fit in sub-navigation of jujucharms.com
[15:13] <lazyPower> as well as poke ze list
[15:13] <rick_h_> lazyPower: who da what?
[15:13] <jrwren> or maybe just http://discourse.ubuntu.com/c/cloud-and-server  done!
[15:13] <lazyPower> rick_h_: <3
[15:13]  * rick_h_ was on call and not watching whatever is going by
[15:14] <jrwren> so... it exists, and none of us knew about it. That is telling :(
[15:14] <lazyPower> hatch: if you want something like that to be the official garden for our community to grow - it has to be included in the official site(s)
[15:14] <jrwren> http://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/category-definition-for-ubuntu-cloud-and-server/84/1
[15:14] <hatch> lazyPower: agreed
[15:15] <hatch> I can fire an email to get some others input
[15:15] <rick_h_> lazyPower: so no main level nav item but if you want to link/put info into the community nav item of the page I'm cool with it
[15:15] <rick_h_> lazyPower: file a bug with the requirements and we'll work with design and put something together
[15:15] <hatch> there is a community nav?
[15:16] <rick_h_> if the deploy ever goes out there is yes
[15:16] <hatch> oh lol ok
[15:16] <rick_h_> it's the latest page of content that ant did and will hopefully be live later today
[15:16] <rick_h_> along with the docs and other improvements
[15:16] <hatch> oh cool - that does sound like a possible place to put a link to that 
[15:17] <rick_h_> it's base don 'blocks' of content so I'd suggest putting something together with design, much like the 'about' page I think
[15:17] <rick_h_> lazyPower: any questions find me and we can chat and I can point you in the right direction
[15:19] <hatch> by default juju and the gui sorts the configuration options alphabetically which makes my config descriptions make no sense
[15:19] <hatch> could we format them as they are in the yaml?
[15:21] <hatch> I'll file a bug so we can discuss
[15:24] <hatch> annnnnnnd submitted https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-gui/+bug/1396201
[15:24] <mup> Bug #1396201: Sort charm config options to match yaml order <juju-gui:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1396201>
[15:27] <lazyPower> rick_h_: ack ty
[15:27] <hatch> lazyPower: ghost also added postgres support which is kind of cool
[15:36] <hatch> frankban: Can you respond to this comment in review? https://github.com/juju/juju-gui/pull/662/files#r20842506
[15:37] <frankban> hatch: looking
[15:40] <frankban> hatch: that's true, for local charms we get the icon from the juju-core HTTPS API. see getLocalCharmFileUrl in go.js
[15:40] <hatch> alright thanks
[15:41] <hatch> I'll have to update the icon method to support this stuff
[15:53] <kwmonroe> lazyPower: hatch:  the latest 'website' subordinate works pretty well for nginx (not yet for apache). it sets up a vhost based on content pulled from a git/bzr branch.  check it out at https://demo.jujucharms.com/~ibm-demo/trusty/website-0/?text=website#readme.  needs a few tweaks, but it's simpler than the apache charm.  no config yet for url redirs, but i'll put that on the list for the next pass.
[15:54] <hatch> kwmonroe: cool I'll check it out a little later. My main interest is to be able to allow the users of the Ghost charm to provide a regex/string for url rewriting which would then get passed to apache/nginx on relation so that they could import their blogs from tumblr, wordpress etc
[15:54] <hatch> plus it's a little self serving because that's exactly what I need to do lol
[15:55] <kwmonroe> roger that hatch
[15:56] <hatch> kwmonroe: so are you going to get this charm promoted? 
[15:57] <hatch> I suppose I also need load balancing too...
[15:57] <hatch> to balance between the units
[15:58] <kwmonroe> yeah hatch.. promotion is in the cards.. though there's a bit of work to get the nginx subordinates in sync (in terms of config naming, readmes, etc).
[15:58] <kwmonroe> hatch: for balancing, are you a haproxy kind of guy, or would you rather nginx do the balancing too?
[15:58] <hatch> kwmonroe: well atm I have it being done via the apache relation
[15:59] <hatch> I dont' really care what does the balancing tbh
[15:59] <kwmonroe> ack
[16:00] <hatch> redirects need to be real http redirects however (need to keep the seo)
[16:00] <hatch> and the load balancing would be nice to have sticky balancing so that users could log in without the risk of being sent to another unit
[16:00] <hatch> there will also likely need to be a caching layer in there somwhere
[16:02] <kwmonroe> nginx sounds like a good balancer/cacher then.  it'll do the http layer, but leaves other tcp traffic alone
[16:03] <kwmonroe> anywho, i'll put a pad to paper after i load up on cranberry sauce.  good things will come out.
[16:03] <hatch> haha awesome
[16:04] <hatch> if you need any testers lemme know :)
[16:04] <kwmonroe> cool, thx
[17:18] <hatch> http://www.prairie-towns.com/index.html :)
[17:22] <teslanick> *something something something* mean joke about canada.
[17:22] <teslanick> :_
[17:22] <teslanick> :)
[17:23] <hatch> lol
[17:23] <teslanick> I joke because I actually really like Canada. Part of the reason I live just south o' the border.
[17:24] <hatch> close as you can get while keeping your heath care and .....oh
[17:24] <hatch> :P
[17:24] <hatch> yeah - easy target I know
[17:24] <teslanick> FREEDHUM
[17:25] <teslanick> BTW http://www.harkavagrant.com/index.php?id=364
[17:26] <hatch> lol
[17:26] <hatch> that actually happened?
[17:26] <teslanick> Totally did
[17:27] <hatch> haha oh boy
[17:27] <teslanick> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fenian_raids
[17:28] <teslanick> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Eccles_Hill - the only reason I know about it
[17:29] <hatch> yikes they got it handed to them
[17:30] <teslanick> Right? There were a lot of holes with that plan.
[17:31] <teslanick> These photos rock
[17:33] <teslanick> http://www.prairie-towns.com/alsask-images.html - Alask, Saskatoon. Say that a few times fast.
[17:33] <teslanick> Sorry Saskatchewan.
[17:39] <hatch> haha yeah
[18:15] <hatch> rick_h_: ok I fixed that issue you found in the PR - whenever you get a moment it's ready for another look
[18:15] <rick_h_> hatch: ok, otp but we can sync up in a little bit 
[18:15] <hatch> yeah np
[18:15] <hatch> I'm just going to hop on huws branch now
[18:16] <rick_h_> hatch: ty much
[18:35] <rick_h_> hatch: ok, let's chat, standup please
[18:36] <hatch> ok joining
[19:24] <hatch> lunching
[19:44] <fabrice> rick_h_: I have updated the PR like we discussed, they are ready to go after 2 second review for the 3 remaining ones
[19:44] <fabrice> uiteam: have a good night
[19:44] <rick_h_> fabrice: thanks, just finished up last bit and starting reviews. They'll be done in the AM
[19:45] <rick_h_> fabrice: ty and have a good evening
[19:45] <mhilton> fabrice: good night
[20:08] <Makyo> uiteam stepping out over lunch to refill prescriptions, back in a few.