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pittiGood morning06:23
seb128wgrant, hey, still no vivid translations?07:39
wgrantseb128: Ah, I forgot to unhide them. Fixed.07:45
seb128wgrant, which means it's going to start importing?07:46
wgrantseb128: Yes.07:46
seb128wgrant, excellent, thanks!07:46
pittiRiddell: are you looking at the kate file conflict? (cf. the autopkgtest regressions)07:48
pittimvo: do you have an idea about https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/vivid-adt-system-image/3/ARCH=i386,label=adt/console ?07:53
mvopitti: no, that is something that barry will know about07:55
pittimvo: ack, thanks07:55
highvoltagen/win 2208:17
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themusicgod1http://pastebin.com/XufeN6b8 tl; dr #ubunt+1 suggests I ask here.  Rogue firefox thread caused system to no longer be able to initialize video card on boot(acer white screen of death).  Suggestions online suggest to not suspend on laptop-close.  Would it be worth suggesting ubuntu use this setting for laptops of this kind?09:40
themusicgod1(firefox confirms that web content is a firefox process, but it was a non-ubuntu build of firefox/nightly)09:46
darkxstslangasek, I commented on bug 139110210:04
ubottubug 1391102 in tracker (Ubuntu Utopic) "[MRE] Update to tracker 1.0.6" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/139110210:04
Laneyyofel: you aware of https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/vivid-adt-kate/lastBuild/ARCH=amd64,label=adt/console and others?10:05
LaneyRiddell: ^ or you10:26
sil2100@pilot in10:52
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LocutusOfBorg1hi developers, can anybody please explain me why armhf is so different from debian?11:22
LocutusOfBorg1https://launchpadlibrarian.net/190819459/buildlog_ubuntu-vivid-armhf.openimageio_1.4.14~dfsg0-1~ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz11:22
LocutusOfBorg1the same program builds correctly on debian, whithout that /usr/include/qt4/QtOpenGL/qgl.h:85:17: error: conflicting declaration 'typedef GLfloat GLdouble'11:23
LocutusOfBorg1 typedef GLfloat GLdouble;11:23
LocutusOfBorg1stuff11:23
cjwatsonhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/FTBFS#OpenGL_and_Qt_combination11:23
LocutusOfBorg1cjwatson, thanks11:24
caribouQ: When fixing an old package (python-pywbem in that case) for SRU, should I worry about lint complaining about obsolete build-depends or old standards ?11:46
caribouor I should just adapt the package to the minimum required to fix the issue (add on new depends in my case) ?11:47
cjwatsoncaribou: Don't change things you don't need to change.11:48
cjwatson(for SRUs)11:48
cjwatsoncaribou: Those things are in the "don't need to change" category.11:48
cariboucjwatson: perfect, that was what I was inclined to do11:48
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sil2100@pilot out12:39
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ScottKdidrocks: It'd be nice if there was some way to respond to your blog post that wasn't registration required.12:57
didrocksScottK: I did have my own system for this, however, the amount of spam, even with some spam filters was just crazy and I ended up giving up on hosting those comments myself12:58
ScottKdidrocks: Maybe App Developer Tools For Ubuntu.12:58
ScottKUbuntu Developer Tools of course made me think of ubuntu-dev-tools, which is completely different.12:59
didrocksScottK: right…12:59
didrocksScottK: sounds good, I like it! what would be the command line in your opinion?12:59
barrypitti: those are just the typical timeout errors.  you have to retry the build12:59
ScottKIt also made me think of http://qa.ubuntuwire.org/multidistrotools/13:00
ScottKHow about just adtu.13:00
ScottKShort, sweet, and unlikely to have collisions (I didn't check though)13:00
pittibarry: hm, it failed three times in a row, but I'll retry13:00
didrocksScottK: well, like udtc, but people couldn't type it ;) but I'm adding that one to the pool myself, thanks for the suggestion!13:01
barrypitti: this is vivid?13:01
pittibarry: yes13:01
barrypitti: i'll try locally, but i've seen this plenty of times before.  si tells udm to download a bunch of files and then no 'finished' signal is ever received from udm13:02
pittibarry: ah, ok13:02
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didrocksRiddell: ScottK: stupid question, but I don't find kdm in vivid, kde-workspace doesn't exist anymore as replaced by plasma-workspace, but the binary package doesn't seem to me to provide a DM, where is it?14:17
pittihm, nothing relevant in Contents.gz either14:20
cjwatsonIt's called sddm now IIRC?14:20
cjwatson(No specific knowledge here apart from having dealt with a number of MPs that added sddm support ...)14:21
didrocksah, seems so, thanks cjwatson :)14:21
didrocksas it's sysvinit only, I guess that's why it's not on the list of services to transition to systemd (where it actually is if we want it to work accordingly to /etc/X11/default-display-manager choice and not having 2 stepping on each other)14:25
ScottKdidrocks: Yes, it's sddm.14:28
pittistgraber: working on bug 1346734 ATM (I have a first working PoC); do we really want to put logind cgroups into *all* controllers? including "devices"? don't we want to use "devices" in some more coarse-grained/different way?14:28
ubottubug 1346734 in systemd (Ubuntu) "Unprivileged LXC containers don't work under systemd" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/134673414:28
didrocksScottK: thanks for confirming14:28
ScottKWe ought to have that work with systemd.14:28
ScottKIt just recently actually made it into the archive.14:29
didrocksScottK: I'll push a .service file in the coming days, I don't see any Vcs-Bzr though, do you have a link?14:31
didrocks(I'm handling debian first, but they need to have a not-that-nice snippet for jessie, we'll get what we'll push in jessie+1 to vivid directly)14:32
ScottKdidrocks: It should be at lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/sddm but it does appear that someone neglected to push it.14:33
ScottKRiddell: ^^^ can you push sddm packaging to LP.14:34
didrocksScottK: ok, thanks! If it's not pushed yet, I'll just dput the change at worst14:34
ScottKdidrocks: I forgot we're doing the KF5/Plasma 5 stuff in git.  It's at http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/kde-std/sddm.git/14:36
didrocksScottK: hum, so it means people having upload rights in ubuntu can't push it there?14:36
ScottKIn some cases.14:36
ScottKFeel free to just dput.14:36
didrocksScottK: I'll dput and propose a git-format patch then14:37
ScottKThanks.14:37
didrocksyw14:37
Riddelldidrocks, ScottK: sddm is in debian git http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-kde/kde-std/sddm.git14:43
Riddellin the kubuntu_vivid_archive branch14:43
ScottKRight.  We eventually figured that out.14:43
Riddelldidrocks: turning on systemd is just a matter of editing debian/rules and installing the service file14:43
didrocksRiddell: it's a little bit more complicated than that if you want to handle multiple dms on the same machine and not having multiple ones starting at the same time14:45
stgraberpitti: putting the user in all cgroups is fine. The user will never be allowed to grant themselves more access than they already have anyway.15:03
pittistgraber: ok, thanks; I now have a patch which I'm reasonably happy with as a first iteration (one bit should go upstream, though)15:04
pittistgraber: for now I just tested it in nspawn and checked /proc/$$/cgroup; this now looks like http://paste.ubuntu.com/9233771/15:05
pittistgraber: I'll now create a VM with user containers to test it there, but does that look good to you at first sight?15:05
stgraberpitti: well, cpuset is clearly wrong15:06
pittistgraber: right, that one is missing; I mean the idea is that the user session processes are in all controllers in a cgroup that's writable to the user, right?15:07
stgrabercorrect15:08
pitti(I'm not sure why cpuset is missing, it's in my list of allowed cgroups; but I'll debug that15:08
pittistgraber: argh, actually this is wrong -- the .slice cgroups are root owned, the only thing that's owned by the user is user@1000.service15:13
pittistgraber: anyway, I found the various places in the code which deal with that :)15:13
pittiand they should be root -- a user shouldn't be able to transfer processes into different sessions, that'd be a potential privilege escalation15:13
pittistgraber: so I added the veth config to /etc/lxc/lxc-usernet and the two lxc.id_map to /etc/lxc/default.conf, but I get http://paste.ubuntu.com/9234222/15:37
pittistgraber: this is vivid host (qemu), trusty guest15:37
stgraberpitti: read the error message :)15:37
stgraberpitti: specifically, the maps should be in ~/.config/lxc/default.conf not in /etc/lxc/default.conf15:38
stgraberunless you're doing unprivileged containers started by root15:38
pittioh, ok; /me creates that dir then15:38
pittithat works, thanks!15:39
stgraberright, the procedure is, create ~/.config/lxc, copy /etc/lxc/default.conf to ~/.config/lxc/default.conf and add the id maps in there15:39
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sabdflsladen, mpt, very glad to see you two driving DM ;)16:38
sladensabdfl: have you been panning the camera around...16:44
sabdflno, just watching my bug email, sladen :)16:45
LocutusOfBorg1pitti our internship student wants to thank you for this link http://www.piware.de/2013/09/how-to-watch-system-d-bus-method-calls/16:50
LocutusOfBorg1:)16:50
pittiLocutusOfBorg1: heh, yw :)16:55
keesinfinity, pitti, stgraber: TB meeting in 2 minutes :)16:59
pittikees: I sent apologies, another meeting now16:59
keespitti: cool, no worries.17:00
mptsabdfl, we are nothing if not versatile ;-)17:03
tkamppeterpitti, mvo, doko, around?17:30
tkamppeterpitti, mvo, doko, it is about apt-daemon, package repository setup and package installation via /usr/share/system-config-printer/install-printerdriver.py does not work any more, bug 1340830.17:32
ubottubug 1340830 in packagekit (Ubuntu) "Regression: Cannot install signatures in Utopic any more" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/134083017:32
keeson vivid, what is spewing "calling: info" during apt-get dist-upgrade?17:52
didrocksjamespage: hey, I saw your docker.io upload, is there any reason you reenable starting docker unconditionnaly at boot (like debian does) on systemd?18:17
* didrocks did remove it some days ago (with adding socket activation) and didn't notice any issue with this18:18
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* xnox thinks my ideapad is broken21:42
xnoxlsusb hangs =(21:42
tych0so suppose i want to rebuild all of debian/ubuntu with a custom gcc23:07
tych0is there some infrastructure set up to do that?23:07
bdmurraypitti: the ddeb for libqt5widgets5 for vivid and armhf is missing23:30
bdmurraypitti: it was uploaded yesterday23:30
bdmurraypitti: also libqt5xml523:31
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