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pitti | Good morning | 06:23 |
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seb128 | wgrant, hey, still no vivid translations? | 07:39 |
wgrant | seb128: Ah, I forgot to unhide them. Fixed. | 07:45 |
seb128 | wgrant, which means it's going to start importing? | 07:46 |
wgrant | seb128: Yes. | 07:46 |
seb128 | wgrant, excellent, thanks! | 07:46 |
pitti | Riddell: are you looking at the kate file conflict? (cf. the autopkgtest regressions) | 07:48 |
pitti | mvo: do you have an idea about https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/vivid-adt-system-image/3/ARCH=i386,label=adt/console ? | 07:53 |
mvo | pitti: no, that is something that barry will know about | 07:55 |
pitti | mvo: ack, thanks | 07:55 |
highvoltage | n/win 22 | 08:17 |
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themusicgod1 | http://pastebin.com/XufeN6b8 tl; dr #ubunt+1 suggests I ask here. Rogue firefox thread caused system to no longer be able to initialize video card on boot(acer white screen of death). Suggestions online suggest to not suspend on laptop-close. Would it be worth suggesting ubuntu use this setting for laptops of this kind? | 09:40 |
themusicgod1 | (firefox confirms that web content is a firefox process, but it was a non-ubuntu build of firefox/nightly) | 09:46 |
darkxst | slangasek, I commented on bug 1391102 | 10:04 |
ubottu | bug 1391102 in tracker (Ubuntu Utopic) "[MRE] Update to tracker 1.0.6" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1391102 | 10:04 |
Laney | yofel: you aware of https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/vivid-adt-kate/lastBuild/ARCH=amd64,label=adt/console and others? | 10:05 |
Laney | Riddell: ^ or you | 10:26 |
sil2100 | @pilot in | 10:52 |
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LocutusOfBorg1 | hi developers, can anybody please explain me why armhf is so different from debian? | 11:22 |
LocutusOfBorg1 | https://launchpadlibrarian.net/190819459/buildlog_ubuntu-vivid-armhf.openimageio_1.4.14~dfsg0-1~ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 11:22 |
LocutusOfBorg1 | the same program builds correctly on debian, whithout that /usr/include/qt4/QtOpenGL/qgl.h:85:17: error: conflicting declaration 'typedef GLfloat GLdouble' | 11:23 |
LocutusOfBorg1 | typedef GLfloat GLdouble; | 11:23 |
LocutusOfBorg1 | stuff | 11:23 |
cjwatson | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/FTBFS#OpenGL_and_Qt_combination | 11:23 |
LocutusOfBorg1 | cjwatson, thanks | 11:24 |
caribou | Q: When fixing an old package (python-pywbem in that case) for SRU, should I worry about lint complaining about obsolete build-depends or old standards ? | 11:46 |
caribou | or I should just adapt the package to the minimum required to fix the issue (add on new depends in my case) ? | 11:47 |
cjwatson | caribou: Don't change things you don't need to change. | 11:48 |
cjwatson | (for SRUs) | 11:48 |
cjwatson | caribou: Those things are in the "don't need to change" category. | 11:48 |
caribou | cjwatson: perfect, that was what I was inclined to do | 11:48 |
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sil2100 | @pilot out | 12:39 |
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ScottK | didrocks: It'd be nice if there was some way to respond to your blog post that wasn't registration required. | 12:57 |
didrocks | ScottK: I did have my own system for this, however, the amount of spam, even with some spam filters was just crazy and I ended up giving up on hosting those comments myself | 12:58 |
ScottK | didrocks: Maybe App Developer Tools For Ubuntu. | 12:58 |
ScottK | Ubuntu Developer Tools of course made me think of ubuntu-dev-tools, which is completely different. | 12:59 |
didrocks | ScottK: right… | 12:59 |
didrocks | ScottK: sounds good, I like it! what would be the command line in your opinion? | 12:59 |
barry | pitti: those are just the typical timeout errors. you have to retry the build | 12:59 |
ScottK | It also made me think of http://qa.ubuntuwire.org/multidistrotools/ | 13:00 |
ScottK | How about just adtu. | 13:00 |
ScottK | Short, sweet, and unlikely to have collisions (I didn't check though) | 13:00 |
pitti | barry: hm, it failed three times in a row, but I'll retry | 13:00 |
didrocks | ScottK: well, like udtc, but people couldn't type it ;) but I'm adding that one to the pool myself, thanks for the suggestion! | 13:01 |
barry | pitti: this is vivid? | 13:01 |
pitti | barry: yes | 13:01 |
barry | pitti: i'll try locally, but i've seen this plenty of times before. si tells udm to download a bunch of files and then no 'finished' signal is ever received from udm | 13:02 |
pitti | barry: ah, ok | 13:02 |
mdeslaur | @pilot in | 13:02 |
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didrocks | Riddell: ScottK: stupid question, but I don't find kdm in vivid, kde-workspace doesn't exist anymore as replaced by plasma-workspace, but the binary package doesn't seem to me to provide a DM, where is it? | 14:17 |
pitti | hm, nothing relevant in Contents.gz either | 14:20 |
cjwatson | It's called sddm now IIRC? | 14:20 |
cjwatson | (No specific knowledge here apart from having dealt with a number of MPs that added sddm support ...) | 14:21 |
didrocks | ah, seems so, thanks cjwatson :) | 14:21 |
didrocks | as it's sysvinit only, I guess that's why it's not on the list of services to transition to systemd (where it actually is if we want it to work accordingly to /etc/X11/default-display-manager choice and not having 2 stepping on each other) | 14:25 |
ScottK | didrocks: Yes, it's sddm. | 14:28 |
pitti | stgraber: working on bug 1346734 ATM (I have a first working PoC); do we really want to put logind cgroups into *all* controllers? including "devices"? don't we want to use "devices" in some more coarse-grained/different way? | 14:28 |
ubottu | bug 1346734 in systemd (Ubuntu) "Unprivileged LXC containers don't work under systemd" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1346734 | 14:28 |
didrocks | ScottK: thanks for confirming | 14:28 |
ScottK | We ought to have that work with systemd. | 14:28 |
ScottK | It just recently actually made it into the archive. | 14:29 |
didrocks | ScottK: I'll push a .service file in the coming days, I don't see any Vcs-Bzr though, do you have a link? | 14:31 |
didrocks | (I'm handling debian first, but they need to have a not-that-nice snippet for jessie, we'll get what we'll push in jessie+1 to vivid directly) | 14:32 |
ScottK | didrocks: It should be at lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/sddm but it does appear that someone neglected to push it. | 14:33 |
ScottK | Riddell: ^^^ can you push sddm packaging to LP. | 14:34 |
didrocks | ScottK: ok, thanks! If it's not pushed yet, I'll just dput the change at worst | 14:34 |
ScottK | didrocks: I forgot we're doing the KF5/Plasma 5 stuff in git. It's at http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/kde-std/sddm.git/ | 14:36 |
didrocks | ScottK: hum, so it means people having upload rights in ubuntu can't push it there? | 14:36 |
ScottK | In some cases. | 14:36 |
ScottK | Feel free to just dput. | 14:36 |
didrocks | ScottK: I'll dput and propose a git-format patch then | 14:37 |
ScottK | Thanks. | 14:37 |
didrocks | yw | 14:37 |
Riddell | didrocks, ScottK: sddm is in debian git http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-kde/kde-std/sddm.git | 14:43 |
Riddell | in the kubuntu_vivid_archive branch | 14:43 |
ScottK | Right. We eventually figured that out. | 14:43 |
Riddell | didrocks: turning on systemd is just a matter of editing debian/rules and installing the service file | 14:43 |
didrocks | Riddell: it's a little bit more complicated than that if you want to handle multiple dms on the same machine and not having multiple ones starting at the same time | 14:45 |
stgraber | pitti: putting the user in all cgroups is fine. The user will never be allowed to grant themselves more access than they already have anyway. | 15:03 |
pitti | stgraber: ok, thanks; I now have a patch which I'm reasonably happy with as a first iteration (one bit should go upstream, though) | 15:04 |
pitti | stgraber: for now I just tested it in nspawn and checked /proc/$$/cgroup; this now looks like http://paste.ubuntu.com/9233771/ | 15:05 |
pitti | stgraber: I'll now create a VM with user containers to test it there, but does that look good to you at first sight? | 15:05 |
stgraber | pitti: well, cpuset is clearly wrong | 15:06 |
pitti | stgraber: right, that one is missing; I mean the idea is that the user session processes are in all controllers in a cgroup that's writable to the user, right? | 15:07 |
stgraber | correct | 15:08 |
pitti | (I'm not sure why cpuset is missing, it's in my list of allowed cgroups; but I'll debug that | 15:08 |
pitti | stgraber: argh, actually this is wrong -- the .slice cgroups are root owned, the only thing that's owned by the user is user@1000.service | 15:13 |
pitti | stgraber: anyway, I found the various places in the code which deal with that :) | 15:13 |
pitti | and they should be root -- a user shouldn't be able to transfer processes into different sessions, that'd be a potential privilege escalation | 15:13 |
pitti | stgraber: so I added the veth config to /etc/lxc/lxc-usernet and the two lxc.id_map to /etc/lxc/default.conf, but I get http://paste.ubuntu.com/9234222/ | 15:37 |
pitti | stgraber: this is vivid host (qemu), trusty guest | 15:37 |
stgraber | pitti: read the error message :) | 15:37 |
stgraber | pitti: specifically, the maps should be in ~/.config/lxc/default.conf not in /etc/lxc/default.conf | 15:38 |
stgraber | unless you're doing unprivileged containers started by root | 15:38 |
pitti | oh, ok; /me creates that dir then | 15:38 |
pitti | that works, thanks! | 15:39 |
stgraber | right, the procedure is, create ~/.config/lxc, copy /etc/lxc/default.conf to ~/.config/lxc/default.conf and add the id maps in there | 15:39 |
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sabdfl | sladen, mpt, very glad to see you two driving DM ;) | 16:38 |
sladen | sabdfl: have you been panning the camera around... | 16:44 |
sabdfl | no, just watching my bug email, sladen :) | 16:45 |
LocutusOfBorg1 | pitti our internship student wants to thank you for this link http://www.piware.de/2013/09/how-to-watch-system-d-bus-method-calls/ | 16:50 |
LocutusOfBorg1 | :) | 16:50 |
pitti | LocutusOfBorg1: heh, yw :) | 16:55 |
kees | infinity, pitti, stgraber: TB meeting in 2 minutes :) | 16:59 |
pitti | kees: I sent apologies, another meeting now | 16:59 |
kees | pitti: cool, no worries. | 17:00 |
mpt | sabdfl, we are nothing if not versatile ;-) | 17:03 |
tkamppeter | pitti, mvo, doko, around? | 17:30 |
tkamppeter | pitti, mvo, doko, it is about apt-daemon, package repository setup and package installation via /usr/share/system-config-printer/install-printerdriver.py does not work any more, bug 1340830. | 17:32 |
ubottu | bug 1340830 in packagekit (Ubuntu) "Regression: Cannot install signatures in Utopic any more" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1340830 | 17:32 |
kees | on vivid, what is spewing "calling: info" during apt-get dist-upgrade? | 17:52 |
didrocks | jamespage: hey, I saw your docker.io upload, is there any reason you reenable starting docker unconditionnaly at boot (like debian does) on systemd? | 18:17 |
* didrocks did remove it some days ago (with adding socket activation) and didn't notice any issue with this | 18:18 | |
mdeslaur | @pilot out | 18:26 |
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xnox | lsusb hangs =( | 21:42 |
tych0 | so suppose i want to rebuild all of debian/ubuntu with a custom gcc | 23:07 |
tych0 | is there some infrastructure set up to do that? | 23:07 |
bdmurray | pitti: the ddeb for libqt5widgets5 for vivid and armhf is missing | 23:30 |
bdmurray | pitti: it was uploaded yesterday | 23:30 |
bdmurray | pitti: also libqt5xml5 | 23:31 |
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