[05:02] morning all [05:14] hi Tonberry [05:15] hi [06:17] hi ThatGraemeGuy [06:17] mornings [06:40] hi superfly [06:40] hi Kilos, ThatGraemeGuy [06:51] hi fly [06:54] Good morning [07:01] hi gremble [07:13] How are you today Kilos? [07:14] ok ty gremble and you? [07:14] I am well thank you [07:17] with luck there will still be a sponsor for the namibia trip [07:17] then you can have a break [07:18] i wonder if canonical ever sponsors stuff like that [07:18] Haha I don't take breaks :P This Namibia think has got me thinking two things: I want to get the LUG at UP going again and I want to either write a new language for mathematical computation, or write an environment to leverage python's numpy and scipy packages [07:19] ah thats good you want to code [07:22] No. I don't want to code. :P [07:23] Coding creates more problems than it really solves. So I will do this with as little coding as possible. [07:26] superfly: inetpro neelsie said he will chair tonight if one of you can give him maaz admin permissions so he can check out stuff to get the commands [07:26] does he have to be online? [07:29] but has he not done the chairing before? [07:29] good mornings [07:29] nope [07:29] hmm... [07:30] we can help him if he can just get the commands [07:30] and please do the g+ thing [07:31] ill try do the tweet thing [07:32] permissions [07:32] Maaz: permissions [07:32] inetpro: Permissions: admin and chairmeeting [07:33] Maaz: permissions for nlsthzn [07:33] inetpro: You're not the boss of me [07:33] ai! [07:33] ai! [07:33] That should be meetingchair, otherwise it is a meeting about a chair :P [07:33] hehe [07:33] instead of the chairman of the meeting [07:34] the bot has his own commands [07:34] gremble: rights to chair a meeting [07:34] pm him and type in help [07:35] inetpro: dont you have to first get him to auth you? [07:36] Kilos: done already... don't have permissions to change permissions [07:36] eish [07:37] back to crash kid [07:39] http://hackertyper.com/ lol [10:11] afternoon [10:45] superfly: have you had much to do with the WUG? [10:48] Squirm: no, I don't have the money for the equipment [10:50] superfly: I suppose, I guess it's probably around R1k [11:00] hi Squirm [11:09] hi zabear [11:09] I might not make it in time for this evenings meeting, so I just wish to log here that I share the re-verification [11:09] Hi Kilos [11:10] well try attend if at all possible [11:10] more names logged in to meets also helps [11:10] will do if I can, but please mention my name then, if it could be done like that [11:11] ok ty [11:11] am going to watch the new space movie and it is 3 hours long :-) [11:11] so I probably will be late [11:12] whew [11:12] anyway, you keep well - logging off now [11:12] cool ty [11:26] zabear=piet beukes methinks [11:30] yum just nuked an apple for 3 mins and it be very lekker [12:19] wbb [12:19] Maaz: watch them [12:19] OK Kilos I'll keep an eye on them for you [12:31] haha [14:04] inetpro: kyk net of choqok van die regte plek getweet het asb. ek sien net sharpeys maar het net ubuntuza ingesit [14:05] im too old for this stuff [14:05] Kilos: see https://twitter.com/ubuntuza [14:06] oh cool ty you did it [14:06] no [14:06] gonna rain hey? [14:06] no? [14:07] this browser goes direct to sharpeys i think [14:07] grrr [14:12] 403 Forbidden: The server understood the request, but is refusing to fulfill it. [14:12] grrrr [14:15] aka "The server is being a 5-year-old" [14:15] lol i always forget no to make ir rember password [14:20] s/ir/it [14:49] need to reboot [15:07] sjoe had to use epiphany to tweet there and i cant copy paste, so not very informative tweet [15:08] sigh and typos [15:33] you staying for the meeting gremble ? [15:34] oi [15:34] that frightened him [15:34] haha' [15:40] hi Vince-0 wb [15:40] Hi kb [15:40] lol [15:40] I mean Kilos [15:40] No tab on this keyboard [15:40] sjoe [15:42] Wat we die oom [15:42] same old just different day and you? [15:42] se* [15:42] change keyboards [15:43] Ya ek ook. Trying another one now [15:43] I'm in Jhb this weekend to see my bro and geekfest on Saturday [15:43] lekker [15:44] can you take some pics and give feedback for us? [15:44] to add to our re-evaluation thing [15:45] been a very slack year i think [15:51] I think very little of geekfest has to do with Ubuntu [15:52] haha [15:53] take a ubuntu lappy with you [15:55] Don't have one. My bro is bringing a non Ubuntu dell for me that same day [15:55] haha [15:56] But yar, I agree that there has been little Ubuntu action locally [15:57] I did watch Shuttleworth's UDS video [15:59] is backporting when you use an older app [15:59] or vice versa [16:01] eg: app repo for 14.10 apps that are built for previous version like 12.04 [16:01] ya [16:01] like i have remastersys working on 12.04 and want to make it work on 14.04 [16:02] oh mine is backward [16:03] ha peer got him [16:24] Am I early or late? [16:28] early Joe_knock but you can hang meantime [16:29] meet at 20.30 [16:29] alright let me continue with my work then [16:29] invite all your friends meantime [16:30] lol [16:30] You people are my friends :'D [16:30] haha you feel like i do [16:31] this is my home [16:31] are you doing any black friday shopping? Kilos [16:32] i dont go anywhere Joe_knock [16:32] You can shop online [16:32] medical reasons i think its called [16:32] only stuff i ever buy is pc stuff [16:33] Have you at least travelled a little bit? [16:33] oh yes years ago [16:33] travelled za apart from the west coast [16:34] and spent many years in natal [16:35] Jys a coastal persoon? [16:35] was a lifesaver in toti [16:35] now wending things in pta [16:35] :D lifeguard :O [16:35] ending [16:39] musta been fun being on the beach everyday [16:42] Kilos you got it backwards. You're supposed to retire on the beach [16:42] lol yeah [16:42] beaches not such hot places anymore [16:43] well you're in slowtoria now, so it kinda is like a beach [16:44] many natural disasters gonna happen in the future, so best stay away from beaches [16:44] haha [16:44] unless you know how to surf :p [16:44] hi Golynx you staying for the meeting [16:44] hi Kilos , yeah i just noticed meeting tonight [16:45] hi amanica [16:45] How exactly can our east coast experience natural disasters? We have a giant island called madagascar protecting us :'D [16:46] hi magespawn wb [16:46] good evening all [16:46] Joe_knock: its called global warming :p [16:46] hi Kilos [16:47] As all the forums, etc. say, SA has more important things to worry about, like lights, water, internet and crime :D [16:48] hahaha [16:48] lol, yeah , present tense :) [16:50] Ek nou dink oor oom Kilos in say speedo doing the David Hasselhof and rescuing pretty blonde girls from drowning :D [16:50] haha [16:50] updated blackberry 10 OS from pc today size 1.1GB . Had about 5GB left, after update still had 5GB left [16:50] haha it was great fun [16:51] now i can run Android apps :) [16:51] in those days the prettiest girls came from pta [16:51] thats good Golynx [16:51] Golynx, maybe they do not charge for os updates [16:52] you hitting the jet setters with the bb [16:52] Could be a local cache, and free local download [16:52] Or, you first need to disconnect before data consumption shows [16:52] he has more data now than he ever has [16:52] magespawn: i saw they said the updates are free, but i did'nt know its actually free as in no data charge :) [16:53] Oom, I think our Tukkies citizen will disagree about how pretty the pretoria women are ;) [16:53] Kilos lol [16:53] note i said those days [16:53] Golynx, pretty cool if it is [16:53] we saw then all from all over [16:54] toti and durbs were popular holiday places [16:55] I've never been to amanzimtoti/amazimtoti? [16:55] even peeps from ct came to toti so they could swim and tan without feezing [16:55] amanzimtoti [16:57] aah im winning on stackoverflow, rep is decent :'d [16:57] i go eat now [16:57] wbb [17:12] * nlsthzn goes for a quick shower and will be back :p [17:31] Maaz: nickometer Joe_knock [17:31] Kilos: Joe_knock is 14.4% lame [17:31] Joe_knock: my boss is inching towards position 19 in South Africa on Stackoverflow :P [17:36] nuvolari, is that a good thing? [17:41] what is stackoverflow [17:42] magespawn: well, with a score of 11 yesterday, I was 2096th :P [17:42] ahh right [17:42] Maaz: google stackoverflow [17:42] nuvolari: "Stack Overflow" http://stackoverflow.com/ :: "Stack Overflow Careers" http://careers.stackoverflow.com/ :: "Newest Questions - Stack Overflow" http://stackoverflow.com/questions :: "Why I no longer contribute to StackOverflow — Michael T. Richter" http://michael.richter.name/blogs/why-i-no-longer-contribute-to-stackoverflow :: "Stack Overflow - [17:42] Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stack_Overflow :: "Newest 'stacko… [17:42] that one oom Kilos ^^ [17:43] right, I'm outta here [17:43] so it takes some work then [17:43] I had enough of Spring JPA and it's nonsense [17:43] not hanging around for the meeting? [17:43] be good nuvolari [17:43] that's why I'm leaving [17:43] he is at work magespawn [17:43] need to get home for the meeting [17:43] ahh right [17:43] oh good [17:43] hurry man [17:43] still at work, overtime? [17:44] they got some deadline thing [17:44] last weekend as well [17:44] How do I check SO scores? [17:54] Okay found the site, but not local [17:54] is that a gaming thing? [17:55] ok, going home, hope I make it in time [17:55] It's the amount of points you accumulate for answering questions on a programming site [17:57] ah [17:59] on these sort of sites you usually get points according to how useful people think your answers are [18:02] I've never had much luck there [18:02] People tend to not actually answer my questions when I have them [18:03] lol [18:06] Golynx: you gotta tether something tighter [18:07] Kilos: haha, i had to install a Android specific app on bb via pc to run android apps [18:08] took some tinkering :) [18:08] there is a sort of art in asking SO questions. The mods are very quick to hellban folks [18:12] Kilos: still using the old dongle on pc, dont wana hurt the bb battery too much :) [18:12] lol [18:12] I'm Leon Marincowitz [18:13] hi Lionthinker [18:13] Hi Kilos [18:13] you only do that once meeting starts [18:13] and guys, apologies for being late [18:13] the bot needs to start the meet first' [18:13] you early lad [18:14] meet starts at 20.30 if nuvo gets home by then [18:14] of gees, well then I'm really early as I was here last night as well worried I missed it [18:14] hi superfly [18:14] i saw but was afk [18:14] guys, be back then [18:14] haha [18:15] 15 mins man [18:15] not tomorrow [18:20] * nuvolari snipes peer with a crossbow [18:20] wb nuvolari [18:21] dankie oom Kilos [18:21] you live close to work heyt [18:21] 15k's oom [18:21] ah [18:21] Maaz: meeting.agenda [18:21] nuvolari: meeting.agenda is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20141125 [18:25] Maaz: are you awake? [18:25] Well duh! I'm not a feeble human that sleeps half my life away [18:25] good [18:26] Does anybody use #seafile here? [18:26] I don't take selfies [18:26] oh, seafile [18:26] what's that? [18:27] It's a dropbox clone [18:28] hmm. Never used dropbox either :P [18:28] Maaz: are you ready? [18:28] nuvolari: *blink* [18:28] Maaz, I am Vincent Swart [18:28] Vince-0: Huh? [18:28] Meh [18:28] lol [18:28] not there yet Vince-0 [18:28] he dont do that till meet started [18:29] Maaz: Ek is jou pa [18:29] Joe_knock: I'll remember that [18:29] :O [18:29] start meeting puts him in another mode [18:29] Maaz: ek [18:29] nuvolari: Ek is jou pa [18:30] hi blazemobile [18:30] Maaz: begin Ubuntu-ZA Monthly IRC Meeting [18:30] nuvolari: Huh? [18:30] er [18:30] lol [18:30] Maaz: begin meeting about Ubuntu-ZA Monthly IRC Meeting (November 25th, 2014) [18:30] nuvolari: *blink* [18:30] :O [18:31] start meeting [18:31] Maaz: meeting.minutes [18:31] nuvolari: meeting.minutes is http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2013-02-18-17-30-02.html [18:31] Is port 8000 the default web access port? [18:31] sounds familiar [18:32] Maaz: start meeting about Ubuntu-ZA Monthly IRC Meeting (November 25, 2014) [18:32] * Maaz gets out his memo-pad and cracks his knuckles [18:32] Joe_knock: negative [18:32] port 80 [18:32] (http = :80) [18:32] It seems I am having conflicts running 2 "server-like" things on 8000 [18:32] Maaz: I am Miles Snarpe [18:32] Kilos: Alrighty [18:32] Maaz: I am Johan Mynhardt [18:32] nuvolari: Yessir [18:33] Maaz: topic Welcoming and Introduction [18:33] Current Topic: Welcoming and Introduction [18:33] login guys [18:33] Welcome everyone :) [18:33] Maaz: I am Greg Eames [18:33] magespawn: Okay [18:33] thank you for making the time to be at the meeting [18:33] Maaz, I am Vincent Swart [18:33] Vince-0: Okay [18:33] it is a fairly important meeting leading up to the reapproval of our LoCo [18:34] Joe_knock: login or you lost somewhere [18:34] Maaz: I am Joe Knock [18:34] Joe_knock: Done [18:34] It's getting harder and harder to get the gap to be more involved :( [18:34] Joe_knock: is it your first time around? [18:34] (for a meeting) [18:35] yeah, oom told me I should come for the meeting, but I read through your old meeting logs, nuvolari [18:35] gremble: you joining us? [18:35] well, welcome then Joe_knock :) [18:35] Maaz: I am Gerrit Pas [18:35] Golynx: Yessir [18:36] The meeting numbers are on the decline, but this is a tight time for everyone I guess [18:36] kbmonkey: ping [18:36] inetpro: ping [18:36] nuvolari: Actually, this should be a winding down time as we head into holidays. [18:37] Hey guys [18:37] wb Lionthinker [18:37] Maaz: topic Review previous minutes [18:37] Current Topic: Review previous minutes [18:37] now you can tell maaz who you are [18:37] http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2014-10-28-18-31-48.txt [18:37] ^^ for anyone interested [18:39] thanks Kilos [18:40] oh, the meeting agenda for those interested [18:40] Maaz: meeting.agenda [18:40] nuvolari: meeting.agenda is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20141125 [18:41] anyone to discuss something from the last meeting's minutes? [18:41] nope, all looks good [18:42] Lionthinker: tell Maaz who you are please [18:42] I am Leon Marincowitz [18:42] he logs who signs in [18:42] you gotta put maaz in first [18:43] Maaz, I am Leon Marincowitz [18:43] Lionthinker: Alrighty [18:43] cool [18:43] just give me some time to read through the previous discussion [18:43] ok, I'm having a bite so I don't pass out :P [18:43] maaz, I'm Jaco Stroebel [18:43] gremble: Huh? [18:43] One day I'll get this registering right first time [18:44] maaz: I am Jaco Stroebel [18:44] gremble: Sure [18:44] Same [18:44] wb nlsthzn [18:44] finally! [18:44] we hit a luck [18:44] hi uncle Kilos :)) [18:44] hi everyone (if there are more people here :p) [18:44] keep note because im sure you will chair in the future [18:45] and login [18:45] have we started? [18:45] yip nuvolari made it home by 20 past [18:45] looks like it was mostly about the LoCo meeting [18:46] Maaz, I am Neil Oosthuizen [18:46] nlsthzn: Done [18:47] so em... [18:48] oh hi nlsthzn :> [18:48] hey nuvolari , glad you are here :D [18:48] glad to be here. taking a break from work [18:49] Joe_knock: yeah, and we need tonight to be about it again :P [18:49] awesome, never work to hard [18:50] Okay, I've glazed over it. I want to raise the point that I don't see any major incentives of being a LoCo for "Ubuntu". We rather just wing it ourselves as a Linux LoCo. [18:50] there is a few things from last time we need to check, is kbmonkey now the team contact, (it needs to be updated on launchpad etc.) and have we booked our date for re-verification... is it set and confirmed etc?! [18:50] ty for coming nuvolari [18:50] aparently [19:12:23] Your team is set to expire out of ~locoteams-verified on: 2014-12-18. [18:50] if you are an official loco you get to order free ubuntu dvds Joe_knock [18:50] [19:12:23] Our December meeting is expected on 2014-12-16. [18:51] Kilos: Those DVDs aren't very useful. Most folks are downloading and sharing the .isos in any case. [18:52] agreed. and the *only* nice thing is them being branded [18:52] I've given like 5 people .isos burnt onto a disk [18:52] yeah but they nice to have and we get lots and can hand them out at parties [18:52] nuvolari, but we need to ensure that the council is aware and reviewing our application and have us on the agenda [18:52] and they're probably also sending only ubuntu itself, when we really need Lubuntu/Xubuntu [18:52] not everyone has uncapped data [18:53] * nuvolari doesn't even have broadband [18:53] not sure if anyone has been following the Ubuntu community list recently [18:53] nope [18:53] Jono Bacon wrote something up about rebooting Ubuntu community which caused a storm [18:53] * nlsthzn follows all, sees all >.> [18:53] Maaz: topic Evetnts [18:53] Current Topic: Evetnts [18:53] If they can agree to provide a wider range of ubuntu flavours, that might be nice. Ubuntu itself can be bloated for folks with 2GB ram [18:53] ugh. [18:53] Maaz: topic Events [18:53] Current Topic: Events [18:54] one of the spin of results was Ubuntu Vancouver decided not re-register and simply call themselves Ubuntu Vancouver [18:54] Joe_knock, Canonical is responsible for Ubuntu, the derivatives do get resources from them but are there own projects [18:54] with the dvd all you need then is to install xubuntu-desktop [18:54] I am not a fan of Randall Ross and some of his ideas [18:55] nlsthzn: I understand that, but how much harder can it be to burn Xubuntu onto a disk than Ubuntu? If Ubuntu can't understand the needs of the locals (many of whom are still using XP on their P4s) then ... [18:56] weve been official since 2005 so lets just do it again [18:56] I'm confused as to what we talking about? [18:56] So the benefit, and only one mentioned so far, to being a LoCo is free DVD's? [18:56] hopefully after ten years theyll drop the need to re-evaluate [18:56]