[00:28] <rick_h_> pluses and reshares welcome please. https://plus.google.com/116120911388966791792/posts/4ZuLf9ZS2S9
[10:44] <gnuoy> jamespage, dosaboy do either of you have anytime to looks at my haproxy-all-the-time mps ( http://paste.ubuntu.com/9248100/ ) ? The diffs are decpetively large because of the resent updates to charmhelpers
[10:45] <gnuoy> s/decpetively/deceptively/
[13:32] <bloodearnest> hmm, I'm having problems with deployer/juju (0.4.1/1.20.12) giving the following error when trying to add relations:
[13:33] <bloodearnest> u'Error': u'no relations found', u'RequestId': 1, u'Response': {   }
[13:33] <bloodearnest> juju status reports all is well
[13:33] <bloodearnest> local provider
[13:34] <bloodearnest> juju ssh is giving public key denied
[13:46] <bloodearnest> so, this was after trying to add a relation between two subordinates, which was working fine until yesterday
[13:48] <bloodearnest> now I can't add the relation
[13:48] <bloodearnest> is this a change in 1.20.12?
[13:51] <bloodearnest> https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1382751
[13:51] <mup> Bug #1382751: non subordinate container scoped relations broken  <regression> <relations> <subordinate> <juju-core:Fix Committed by menno.smits> <juju-core 1.20:Fix Released by menno.smits> <juju-core 1.21:Fix Released by natefinch> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1382751>
[13:51] <bloodearnest> so, this is a breaking change
[13:52] <bloodearnest> in a point release
[13:52] <hazmat> bloodearnest, ugh
[13:53] <hazmat> that looks like unintended fallout
[13:54] <bloodearnest> seems so
[13:54] <bloodearnest> relating 2 subordinates has been supported for ages, I've been using for a good while
[13:54] <hazmat> bloodearnest,  is it a container scoped relation between the two subordinates?
[13:54] <bloodearnest> hazmat: yes
[13:55] <bloodearnest> hmm, I guess one side could be non-scoped, since the placement has already been done by the scoped relation
[13:55] <hazmat> bloodearnest, it looks like this line +		if eps[0].Scope == charm.ScopeContainer && subordinateCount != 1 {
[13:55] <hazmat> should be subordinateCount >= 1
[13:57] <hazmat> bloodearnest, is this with public charms, i think its a worth a bug report
[13:58] <bloodearnest> hazmat: public charm, but not yet promulgated. It's the charm for the new conn-check utility we announce recently, related to nrpe-external-master to surface the chamr s
[13:58] <bloodearnest> gah
[13:58] <bloodearnest> surface the checks as nagios results
[13:58] <bloodearnest> I will file a report
[14:10] <bloodearnest> hazmat: fyi: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1396625
[14:10] <mup> Bug #1396625: container scoped relations between 2 subordinates broken in 1.20.12 <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1396625>
[14:14] <bloodearnest> hm, how do I down grade to 1.20.11, stable ppa doesn't have it
[14:19] <gnuoy> small charmhelpers mp if anyone has a sec https://code.launchpad.net/~gnuoy/charm-helpers/add-default-nagios-servicegroup/+merge/242928
[15:11] <mthaddon> gnuoy: that looks reasonable to me - will merge
[15:35] <gnuoy> mthaddon, thanks!
[15:35] <mthaddon> sure