[00:44] <kavaco> hi
[01:19] <berny_> Hola
[01:20] <berny_> ;D
[01:29] <cjwelborn> I never found a place to gripe about this, so I guess here is as good as any. Muon downloads some kind of update list to notify me when there are updates. It knows how many there are, and what kind they are. If I choose to update, it will re-download the update list. Why can't it just use the information it gathered the first time? I wish I knew a Muon-dev so I could ask them.
[02:07] <keithzg> Well that's odd...speaking of Muon, searching for python3-mysql in Muon doesn't turn up python3-mysql.connector, but a good ol' apt-cache search does...
[02:08] <keithzg> Guess that should remind me that GUI package managers are never to be trusted :P
[02:30] <antman> is there a known issue with installing ver 14.10 with a dual boot win7???
[02:55] <valorie> cjwelborn: the list is one thing, actually downloading the files is another
[02:58] <cjwelborn> valorie: yeh, i mean the list. I know it has to download the files. It downloads the list to let me pick which ones I want to install (then it downloads the actual files). But it has to download the list to notify me in the first place right? I don't know the inner workings of Muon. I'm actually considering browsing the source to confirm my suspicion. I could be wrong.
[02:59] <valorie> getting aquainted with the inner workings sounds like a good thing
[02:59] <cjwelborn> at least then I could file a 'bug report/enhancement proposal'.
[03:04] <valorie> certainly, patches and bug reports are always welcome
[04:07] <nagerst> hi
[04:08] <nagerst> Can i have both systemsettings5 and systemsettings install at the same time?
[04:08] <nagerst> systemsettings5 seems to only have like 5 sections on my system whilst systemsettings (4.11) has all the regular settings.
[04:13] <nagerst> or should i pin to 4.11 for now?
[04:22] <valorie> are you running plasma 5?
[04:22] <valorie> I assume that is what systemsettings5 is for
[04:23] <valorie> !info systemsettings5
[04:23] <nagerst> it is for all kinds of stuff.
[04:23] <valorie> I'm running plasma 5 in my 14.10 install
[04:23] <nagerst> network, kde/qt appearance, printing, plugins, and many many more things
[04:24] <nagerst> the package in utopic is "systemsettings" which replaces the 4.11 package.
[04:24] <valorie> ok, I don't know what it is
[04:24] <nagerst> with 5.*
[04:24] <valorie> I don't have systemsettings5 in my plasma5 install
[04:25] <valorie> it is simply called systemsettings
[04:25] <nagerst> yes
[04:25] <valorie> I see no reason for pinning
[04:26] <nagerst> many KCM's are not available in the qt5 version.
[04:26] <nagerst> (KDE configuration module)
[04:26] <nagerst> like screen resolution or printing for instance.
[04:28] <valorie> yes, they don't seem available as yet
[04:28] <valorie> it is a testing install.....
[04:29] <bshah> kcmshell4 <your kde4 kcm>?
[04:30] <nagerst> bshah: yup that works perfectly
[04:30] <nagerst> but i would prefer to have both systemsettings versions installed.
[04:34] <bshah> nagerst: I don't think that is possible due to co-installablity issues..
[04:35] <bshah> kcmshell4 and kcmshell5 are co-installable but systemsettings is not iirc.
[04:35] <bshah> so if you choose to upgrade to Plasma5 you will not have systemsettings4
[04:35] <nagerst> bshah: then why did they rename the systemsettings binary to systemsettings5? I thought that was to make it able to coexist?
[04:36] <bshah> are you using kubuntu-ci ppa right?
[04:37] <nagerst> no, should i do so?
[04:37] <bshah> so which plasma 5 packages you are using?
[04:38] <nagerst> 5.84
[04:38] <bshah> umm, I mean which ppa?
[04:39] <nagerst> none
[04:40] <nagerst> 5.78 is available in utopic and 5.84 is customly enabled from vivid.
[04:40] <bshah> !info plasma-desktop
[04:40] <bshah> !info plasma-workspace
[04:41] <nagerst> !info kde-plasma-desktop
[04:42] <nagerst> 5.1.1 is the version of plasma, sorry
[04:42] <nagerst> it is installed from vivid
[04:43]  * QuinnStorm wonders if anyone else has seen plasmashell: symbol lookup error: plasmashell: undefined symbol: _ZN7KScreen6Config11outputAddedEPNS_6OutputE
[04:43] <bshah> QuinnStorm: sounds like kscreen package needs rebuilding
[04:44] <bshah> QuinnStorm: kscreen got some new updates
[04:44] <QuinnStorm> thanks, I didn't know where to look for it, I'm running -ci [obviously]
[04:44] <QuinnStorm> is it gonna hit -ci shortly or is there an obvious easy way to build it myself for now?
[07:55] <soee> good morning
[08:18] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:11] <luc4> Hello! Trying to install kdelib5-dev I get this error. Anyone who can advise on how to fix it? http://pastebin.com/mbp5BGmC
[09:12] <lordievader> luc4: Looks like you have the backports ppa installed, is this correct?
[09:13] <luc4> lordievader: I probably installed in the past a ppa to install the most recent kde, but I can't find that anymore in sources.list.
[09:14] <luc4> Maybe this one? deb http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ utopic-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[09:14] <lordievader> luc4: What is the output of 'ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d'?
[09:44] <uwe> ich suche den Befehl womit man die Liste aller Räume aufzeigen kann.
[10:30] <luc4> lordievader: sorry if I'm late: http://paste.kde.org/pkhtys7ud
[10:33] <lordievader> luc4: Is kubuntu-ppa-backports-trusty.list active?
[10:33] <luc4> lordievader: yes, I checked that, but all lines are commented.
[10:34] <luc4> lordievader: is it possible that the repository was removed and now all the packages from that old repo remain installed?
[10:34] <lordievader> luc4: Hmm, wat is the output of 'apt-cache policy kdelibs5-dev'?
[10:35] <luc4> lordievader: http://paste.kde.org/paymetlve
[10:38] <lordievader> luc4: Allright and the output of 'apt-cache policy kdelibs-bin'?
[10:44] <luc4> lordievader: http://paste.kde.org/ppwzbbra9
[10:46] <luc4> lordievader: I have to say I don't clearly understand...
[10:48] <lordievader> luc4: Ah I see. I've seen this before. You had the backports installed on Trusty. Then you upgraded to Utopic. However the package versions Trusty backports provides are newer than Utopic archive...
[10:48] <lordievader> luc4: Add the Trusty backports again and remove it with ppa-purge.
[10:49] <luc4> lordievader: oh what a funny mess
[10:49] <luc4> lordievader: I'll try, thanks!
[10:55] <yossarianuk> plasma5 = very impressive
[11:38] <luc4> lordievader: I used ppa-purge but I don't see many differences: http://paste.kde.org/pgze0ju49
[11:41] <lordievader> luc4: Hrmmm, that is annoying.. I thought that would work.
[11:42] <monkeyjuice> morning
[11:44] <lordievader> Hey monkeyjuice, how are you?
[11:48] <monkeyjuice> im good lordievader trying to figure out what partition to remove so dual boot with win7
[12:02] <yossarianuk> monkeyjuice: remove the windows one.
[12:04] <monkeyjuice> yossarianuk: that would fix it im sure ;)
[12:06] <yossarianuk> live improves when you dump windows forever - i'm sure my health has improved...
[12:06] <yossarianuk> *life*
[12:07] <monkeyjuice> ya dont know why i try to dual boot never use windows ,,,
[12:08] <yossarianuk> monkeyjuice: I used to do that too - after about 5 yrs of never using it I got rid
[12:09] <yossarianuk> Getting a GPT/UEFI system was final nail - my Win XP disk wouldn't work anymore.
[12:11] <monkeyjuice> ya this is uefi laptop but its not turned on
[12:12] <lordievader>  That is not very surprising...
[12:14] <yossarianuk> lordievader: no ...
[12:14] <yossarianuk> To be honest I only ever used windows for about 4 years anyway.
[12:15] <yossarianuk> Amiga's from mid 80's -> 1997. Linux from 2002
[12:15] <monkeyjuice> i keep it for my wife i guess
[12:23] <luc4> lordievader: indeed. I was simply missing the -purge param. Thanks.
[13:14] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:47] <Babenka> hi there
[13:47] <lordievader> o/
[13:48] <Babenka> howare you?
[13:48] <lordievader> Babenka: Doing good here, what about you?
[13:49] <red_> hello
[13:49] <Babenka> I am fine, thank you.Where  are you from?
[13:49] <red_> gnome apps are looking ugly
[13:50] <red_> why
[13:50] <red_> what to do to correct this?
[13:50] <lordievader> Babenka: Stick around long enough and you'll find out.
[13:51] <lordievader> Babenka: Also for offtopic chatter we have #kubuntu-offtopic
[13:52] <soee> red_: kde 4 or plasma5 ?
[13:52] <lordievader> soee: KDE4 doesn't exists, it's plasma4.
[13:53] <soee> well yes :)
[13:53] <soee> anyway red_ you shoudl go to system settings and check if oxygen is set for gtk apps
[13:57] <red_> kde 4
[13:57] <red_> kubuntu 14.04
[13:58] <Monika> After upgrading to Utopic my left and right desktop contents (task bars, desktop icons, notes, plasmoids) are exchanged. In which file are these settings stored? Maybe I can easily move them back by editing them instead of dragging all things around.
[14:25] <zer01010101> how can i hide the filetype names of any/all files ? example: picture.jpg or firefox.desktop
[14:28] <soee> zer01010101: in dolphin or where ?
[14:28] <zer01010101> folder widget
[14:28] <soee> ah, soeey im dont know, im not using it
[14:29] <zer01010101> and in dolphin ?
[14:33] <zer01010101> got it
[16:55] <lolmaus> I use a terminal within my IDE. The terminal is a login shell or not depending on how i start the IDE. If i start the IDE from a Konsole, the terminal is a login shell. If i start the IDE from a Panel, the terminal is a non-login shell.
[16:56] <lolmaus> The question is: how to i make it a login shell when starting the IDE from a Panel?
[17:18] <alket> how to get firefox notification in plasma ?
[17:50] <luan_> ciao
[17:50] <luan_> !list
[17:51] <genii> !it
[18:06] <BluesKaj> checking out hexchat on W7..seems ok
[19:53] <Chaser> Hello. Since I connected 2 monitors to my laptop, parts of my screen don't refresh. This started happening after I added a second monitor to my laptop. One monitor is connected via HDMI port and other to VGA (via display link to vga adapter). Any ideas why this could happen ? Is it because its not able to drive two monitors ?
[19:54] <Chaser> These are 1920x1080 (Dell P2311H) monitors so not high DPI.
[19:57] <andy123> Chaser: looks like a driver problem. you can try the propriertary driver, if available
[20:01] <Chaser> andy123: I had bad experiences with proprietary drivers (mine is nvidia). But I guess I have no choice here.
[20:03] <andy123> Chaser: agreed, there is not much you can do besides
[20:05] <andy123> use the nvidia control panel to configure the monitors
[20:09] <Chaser> cool will give it a go. thanks.
[20:21] <soee> Chaser: what bad experiancce ?
[21:07] <Monika> After upgrading to Utopic my left and right desktop contents (task bars, desktop icons, notes, plasmoids) are exchanged. In which file are these settings stored? Maybe I can easily move them back by editing them instead of dragging all things around.
[23:03] <Qeerts> Hej I wanted to boot my desktop now I get: Error in 'ksplashqml': double free or corruption
[23:04] <Qeerts> I run 'startx' from the terminal as kde fails to start
[23:04] <Qeerts> I use Kde5 latest Beta I guess
[23:21] <pedahzur> I have realized, since my upgrade to Kubuntu 14.04 (running KDE 4.14.2) that I no longer have a notifier icon in my icon tray when there are upgrades available. What widget do I need to reactivate to get this back?
[23:23] <Monika> pedahzur probably something with muon in the name
[23:23] <Monika> ah, the widget
[23:23] <Monika> Systemabschnitt in German ... not sure what it's in English
[23:24] <pedahzur> Monika: Yeah, I do see the package muon-notifier installed. I'll just need to figure out how to install/configure it.
[23:25] <pedahzur> Monika: Nothing in System Settings. :)
[23:26] <mr_rourick> hello all :)
[23:30] <Qeerts> So I tried now starting xstart from terminal as root
[23:30] <Monika> pedahzur a widget of that name?
[23:30] <Qeerts> and It works fine any idea how I can figure out where the permission(probably) problem is
[23:30] <Monika> do you stil have like the sound
[23:30] <Monika> and clipboard
[23:30] <Monika> etc?
[23:30] <Monika> there it should appear
[23:40] <pedahzur> Monika: the package muon-notifier is installed, and I see the notification for updates available is active in system setings, but I never see a notice when there are new packages available.
[23:40] <pedahzur> Monika: yes,I have the sound, netwoirk, device notifier, etc. icons.
[23:42] <Monika> when you rightclick on the little triangle next to it and go to the settings of this widget, and then you select the second item on the left (something like "items"), do you see the icon in that list?
[23:42] <Monika> is it set to hidden maybe?