| cmaloney | I'm not sure what it is either. | 00:21 |
|---|---|---|
| greg-g | man, phabricator makes being a quasi-product manager a fun adventure game :) | 00:23 |
| brousch_ | finally a hackable Linux tablet! https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2019641820/raspitab-the-first-tablet-with-raspberry-pi-inside | 13:27 |
| brousch_ | 800x480 :( | 13:27 |
| mrgoodcat | well the rpi probably can't drive a super hi-def display | 13:28 |
| brousch_ | It has hdmi out that powers 1080p | 13:29 |
| brousch_ | Many people use it for XBMC | 13:29 |
| mrgoodcat | i was thinking more with the touch interactions and the inherently graphic interfaces of touch devices | 13:29 |
| mrgoodcat | also, price is something to look out for. its a kickstarter not exactly samsung | 13:31 |
| mrgoodcat | might not have access to great displays at an affordable price | 13:31 |
| mrgoodcat | kind of expensive... | 13:33 |
| brousch_ | yeah | 13:35 |
| brousch_ | Linux is doooomed. Android will rule the client | 13:36 |
| mrgoodcat | not necessarily true | 13:37 |
| brousch_ | http://www.techrepublic.com/article/system76-sable-touch-the-state-of-touch-support-in-linux/ | 14:20 |
| jrwren | but it soooo expensive. | 14:22 |
| jrwren | i'd rather fund a kickstarter for rooting and getting cyanogen mod on cheap $60 tabs | 14:23 |
| rick_h_ | morning | 14:23 |
| rick_h_ | $60? Can barely get a good keyboard for that, and thats a BT mobile one | 14:23 |
| jrwren | I think it was. | 14:24 |
| brousch_ | The screens on cheap tablets are crap. Unusable for more than 10 minutes | 14:25 |
| mrgoodcat | get the cyanogenmod phone | 14:26 |
| mrgoodcat | https://cyngn.com/products/oneplusone/ | 14:26 |
| jrwren | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834686016 it was $54.99 when I bought it. | 14:27 |
| jrwren | its garbage laregly because android 4.1 is garbage. | 14:27 |
| cmaloney | Nice. Apparently even if you delete your account (as I thought I had with the MUG account) you still get the NFL Twitter message | 14:34 |
| cmaloney | jrwren: I'm still on Android 4.1. :) | 14:35 |
| cmaloney | Ah, I thought I'd deleted it. | 14:36 |
| cmaloney | rectified | 14:38 |
| * rick_h_ keeps hitting software update on his phone to get 5.0 | 14:39 | |
| rick_h_ | tablets are updated and I'm wishing for consistancy | 14:39 |
| jrwren | cmaloney: zomg, how can you stand it? It is honestly the most infuriating user experience I've ever had. | 14:40 |
| jrwren | Windows 8, is better. (I mean 8, not 8.1) | 14:40 |
| rick_h_ | lol, jrwren that's because you're not on 4.0 :P | 14:40 |
| rick_h_ | honeycomb I think was 4.0 and that was the release that shall not be named any more | 14:41 |
| jrwren | yeah, so glad I never used 4.0 | 14:41 |
| cmaloney | jrwren: You also must've not used 2.4 and saw 4.x as a blessing | 14:50 |
| cmaloney | 3.x was Honeycomb | 14:50 |
| cmaloney | I'm on 4.1.2 on my phone | 14:51 |
| cmaloney | All of the other devices are Nexus (Tablet, JoDee's phone) | 14:51 |
| brousch_ | I'm not impressed with 5 on my Nexus 10 | 14:51 |
| cmaloney | and likely my next device will be NotSamsungNotSprintCrapwareEnabled | 14:52 |
| cmaloney | brousch_: I'm surprised they let the 10 have 5 | 14:52 |
| jrwren | brousch_: 5 is out? | 14:52 |
| cmaloney | jrwren: Out for a week iirc | 14:52 |
| brousch_ | Android 5 is available for the Nexus 10, and 7 I think | 14:52 |
| jrwren | ah, brand new. cool! | 14:53 |
| cmaloney | I haven't received the upgrade to 5 on my Nexus 7 2012 | 14:53 |
| brousch_ | Maybe not 2012. That is old | 14:53 |
| brousch_ | ANCIENT | 14:53 |
| cmaloney | I heard rumors it might get 5 | 14:53 |
| cmaloney | I'm not concerned either wy. | 14:53 |
| cmaloney | way | 14:53 |
| jrwren | my phone is from Oct 2011 :p | 14:54 |
| cmaloney | Mine is from whenever I started using Ting | 14:56 |
| cmaloney | I've actually replaced the battery once. | 14:56 |
| rick_h_ | brousch_: yea, on the N10 :/ but my N10 is having issues as well | 14:58 |
| rick_h_ | but at least the buttons are in the same place between them | 14:58 |
| rick_h_ | and I can finally cast my device screen to my chromecase | 14:58 |
| rick_h_ | chromecast | 14:58 |
| rick_h_ | I'm liking it in the N9 | 14:58 |
| rick_h_ | actually picked up this MS BT keyboard holder thing and sitting at starbucks using it as my computer atm to try it out | 14:59 |
| rick_h_ | gotta love MS for the hardware once in a while :) | 14:59 |
| cmaloney | MS makes pretty nice hardware | 15:02 |
| cmaloney | Still think the Natural Keyboard is from hell though. | 15:03 |
| rick_h_ | lol | 15:04 |
| rick_h_ | I just wish they made it with real switches these days. Oh well | 15:05 |
| rick_h_ | the kenisis will do for now. | 15:05 |
| cmaloney | yeah, I like having all of my keys in one spot on the desk, thank you. :) | 15:05 |
| rick_h_ | lol | 15:05 |
| brousch_ | The surface Pro 3 fixed the Surface Pro 2 keyboard | 15:07 |
| brousch_ | Still slim and switchless, of course, but at least it has some travel now | 15:08 |
| rick_h_ | yea, this MS thing is surprisingly good for a mini-keyboard as far as feel goes | 15:08 |
| mrgoodcat | rick_h_ liking a MS thing? | 15:09 |
| mrgoodcat | stop the presses | 15:09 |
| brousch_ | If the surface pro 3 didn't cost $2000 I would replace my tablet and computer with it | 15:11 |
| cmaloney | mrgoodcat: We don't play the "MS is crap" game most of the time | 15:13 |
| cmaloney | at least not with hardware. :) | 15:13 |
| brousch_ | Windows 8.1 is good with touch | 15:13 |
| cmaloney | we appreciate and hate all hardware equally | 15:13 |
| * brousch_ flees | 15:13 | |
| cmaloney | brousch_: INTO THE FLAMES OF PERDITION WITH YOU! | 15:13 |
| cmaloney | HEEEEAAAATHEN! | 15:13 |
| mrgoodcat | i see software hate is still in full swing though | 15:14 |
| mrgoodcat | one of my work computers is windows 7 and most of the time I don't want to push needles into my eyes | 15:15 |
| mrgoodcat | sometimes though.... | 15:15 |
| brousch_ | Heh, I use win7 all day at work | 15:17 |
| mrgoodcat | i have 2 computers on my desk | 15:18 |
| brousch_ | It's not bad VirtuaWin for multiple workspaces | 15:18 |
| mrgoodcat | so i can use linux most of the time. but windows for certain things | 15:18 |
| brousch_ | I used to do that, mostly because our old computers were so damn slow. The new ones are fast, high res, and multi-monitor | 15:19 |
| brousch_ | Actually getting a 4k screen to test next week | 15:20 |
| mrgoodcat | well i suppose that's something. mine are both pretty quick | 15:20 |
| mrgoodcat | my winders machine is a dell latitude E7440 | 15:20 |
| mrgoodcat | < 3 months old | 15:20 |
| brousch_ | We have Lenovo Thinkcentre M92Z all-in-ones | 15:23 |
| brousch_ | Core i5, 24" touchscreen | 15:23 |
| mrgoodcat | i want leap motion | 15:26 |
| mrgoodcat | with windows 8.1 | 15:26 |
| mrgoodcat | touch goodness without stupid fingerprint smudging | 15:26 |
| jrwren | brousch_: http://www.amazon.com/Acer-Aspire-SW5-012-16AA-Detachable-Touchscreen/dp/B00NGK98GS/ref=sr_1_6?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1417016316&sr=1-6&keywords=acer+laptop | 15:38 |
| jrwren | cheap surface 3 knock off :) | 15:38 |
| brousch_ | the problem is it is my only computer, so I really need 512GB of storage | 15:39 |
| jrwren | if it is your only computer then $2000 is a good price point. | 15:40 |
| brousch_ | And 8GB RAM for android dev and virtual machines | 15:40 |
| jrwren | or, go apple and spend the $2000 on the best mac book air you can buy and an ipad and use 2 devices :p | 15:40 |
| brousch_ | Hard to justify when my current laptop and tablets are acceptible | 15:40 |
| brousch_ | The airs have crappy resolution | 15:41 |
| brousch_ | Also only 256GB storage | 15:42 |
| brousch_ | I would go with the macbook pro retina | 15:42 |
| jrwren | my air has 512GB storage. | 15:44 |
| jrwren | it has suboptimal resolution, true, but i trade that for it being WAY lighter and smaller than an MBP, which I value more. | 15:45 |
| mrgoodcat | idk my gf's mbp isn't exactly big | 15:47 |
| mrgoodcat | and the retina display is nice | 15:47 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: or get the 13" xps 13 which is air-like, better keyboard, much better display, and more linux friendly | 15:48 |
| brousch_ | A dell?! | 15:48 |
| rick_h_ | yea, :( | 15:48 |
| cmaloney | brousch_: Lenovo messed up the THinkpad enough to make rick_h_ run away | 15:49 |
| rick_h_ | since lenovo took 5 years to kill thinkpads | 15:49 |
| rick_h_ | but kill them they did | 15:49 |
| greg-g | the x230 is still way better than the xps, imho | 15:49 |
| rick_h_ | greg-g: I used mine with my son the other day and I did like/miss parts of it | 15:49 |
| rick_h_ | greg-g: but that display and thinner body is too much to give up | 15:49 |
| jrwren | rick_h_: but... but... apple! :] | 15:51 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: but but but...sucks. I'm so mad at my air | 15:51 |
| jrwren | rick_h_: really? why mad? | 15:51 |
| brousch_ | The Lenovo Yoga Pro 3 is also nice, but about the same price | 15:51 |
| rick_h_ | because the screen sucks, the keyboard sucks, the performance sucks, the lack of linux support for things like their stupid pcie camera sucks | 15:52 |
| rick_h_ | maybe if I'd gone for the 13" air I'd hate it less | 15:52 |
| rick_h_ | but damn I hate this little 11" one | 15:52 |
| jrwren | oh linux. | 15:53 |
| rick_h_ | yea, sorry but OSX is fail and I can go on and on about that crap | 15:53 |
| jrwren | oh yeah, 11" is too small. My wife loves hers. I had one for 6mo or so and felt it too small. | 15:53 |
| brousch_ | Years of experimentation showed me that 12" is the smallest I like for a laptop | 15:53 |
| * rick_h_ still hasn't updated to yosemite because he's afraid he'll rage quit computing once all that crap lands | 15:53 | |
| cmaloney | rick_h_: I'd like to think one OS upgrade wouldn't have you rage-quit all of computing | 15:54 |
| cmaloney | but I'm not going to take that bet. | 15:54 |
| rick_h_ | cmaloney: have you seen the reports about yosemite? I love it. All the mac loving folks on the team having issues with blurry fonts, non working devices, stupid toy looking UI | 15:54 |
| greg-g | :) | 15:54 |
| cmaloney | rick_h_: Yeah, I think there's serious issues in Cupertino | 15:55 |
| cmaloney | Sadly I think they're going to go through several CEOs before they realize what they should have done is put Steve Jobs into cryogenic storage. | 15:55 |
| cmaloney | and revive him once a quarter. | 15:55 |
| jrwren | I LOVE yosemite. | 15:57 |
| jrwren | being able to answer my phone on my laptop is awesome. | 15:57 |
| cmaloney | Google Voice | 15:57 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: uh huh, yea been doing that for a while now | 15:57 |
| jrwren | and safari in yosemite is rather nice. | 15:57 |
| cmaloney | Chrome | 15:57 |
| rick_h_ | and it works :P | 15:57 |
| jrwren | rick_h_: yeah? awesome! | 15:57 |
| cmaloney | Hangouts. | 15:58 |
| mrgoodcat | yea. gvoice and chrome | 15:58 |
| jrwren | other than that, yosemite is a nothing change. | 15:58 |
| jrwren | gvoice, you need a gvoice phone number, right? | 15:58 |
| rick_h_ | I hear it's a minus change | 15:58 |
| mrgoodcat | s/other\ than\ that// | 15:58 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: you need an apple phone right? | 15:58 |
| jrwren | rick_h_: yes. | 15:58 |
| rick_h_ | :P | 15:58 |
| cmaloney | jrwren: Of course you need a gvoice number. :) | 15:58 |
| mrgoodcat | which is free | 15:58 |
| mrgoodcat | and easy to obtain | 15:58 |
| jrwren | so... someone has to call you on the right phone number. | 15:58 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: my only phone number | 15:58 |
| rick_h_ | and I can use any phone I want | 15:58 |
| cmaloney | jrwren: As opposed to your Apple phone which only gets called by the Paparazzi? | 15:59 |
| brousch_ | I felt sorry for the friend who upgraded to yosemite then took 15 minutes to connect to the projector that caused no problems for 2 years | 15:59 |
| jrwren | my only phone number too. | 15:59 |
| jrwren | ya'll be crazy. | 15:59 |
| mrgoodcat | the number of people who have my gvoice phone number vastly outweighs the number of people who have my "real" phone number | 15:59 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: and you be blindly not seeing the chains on the other end as well | 15:59 |
| brousch_ | Yes. 2 people have my real number: my wife and my dad | 15:59 |
| cmaloney | yeah, I give out my gvoice number to everyone | 15:59 |
| jrwren | rick_h_: what chains? google gives all your data to NSA. Apple doesn't :p | 15:59 |
| cmaloney | few folks get the home number, and fewer still get the mobile number | 15:59 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: yea, apple just lets the NSA hack it out manually | 16:00 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: "oops, sorry missed that loophole/firewall" | 16:00 |
| mrgoodcat | jrwren: you're deluding yourself if you think the NSA doesn't have access | 16:00 |
| jrwren | rick_h_: fortunatley there is no evidence of that. | 16:00 |
| cmaloney | jrwren: goto. ;) | 16:01 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: what?! seriously | 16:02 |
| jrwren | seriously. | 16:03 |
| mrgoodcat | yosemite was a worthless upgrade. my gf got super butthurt about it breaking all her things | 16:04 |
| mrgoodcat | apps crashing now and wifi works like 60% of the time | 16:04 |
| jrwren | that has not been my experience. | 16:14 |
| _stink_ | yeah the one mac guy i know hates yosemite for the same reason. | 17:32 |
| mrgoodcat | oh she doesn't hate yosemite | 18:25 |
| mrgoodcat | it just doesn't work | 18:25 |
| mrgoodcat | she's a full blown apple person | 18:25 |
| mrgoodcat | wifi not working is better because it helps her creative flow or some other bs | 18:25 |
| _stink_ | haha | 18:26 |
| greg-g | "This sucks! Everything broke! Oh, I still love it, how could I not?! It's so sexy and expensive and such a great status symbol I can show off." | 18:33 |
| greg-g | (not saying that's your gf, that's just me being crotchety) | 18:33 |
| cmaloney | greg-g: Well, to be fair Mac folks have generally had it good | 18:52 |
| jrwren | i've no idea what broke. | 18:56 |
| jrwren | everything working here. | 18:56 |
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