[05:39] <bduk1> More almal
[05:49] <Squirm> morning
[05:56] <ThatGraemeGuy> mornings
[05:57] <Symmetria> why do technical meetings always have to start with a bunch of speeches that are nothing more than political cocksucking 
[06:00] <ThatGraemeGuy> lol
[06:00] <Symmetria> seriously, its a case of "zomg we're so wonderful, and we'll suck the cocks of every politician in 100 mile radius just to make sure they think so as well"
[06:01] <Symmetria> Im like, they are just people, the same as all of us, DO something and I will respect you for it, but I aint gonna respect someone just for a position
[06:02] <ThatGraemeGuy> yeah, i don't enjoy environments like that either
[06:03] <ThatGraemeGuy> i've only has 1 job at a big corporate and I wasn't even there for a year before I packed it in
[06:04] <Symmetria> heh this isn't a corporate, Im at an afrinic meeting
[06:04] <Symmetria> opening ceremony
[06:04] <Symmetria> I find the political crap so disingenuous though
[06:04] <ThatGraemeGuy> same thing
[06:05] <ThatGraemeGuy> corporates have the same political crap, but it isn't unique to them
[06:06] <Symmetria> heh, nah, the corporate political crap is there, but it aint half as bad :) well, it aint in any corporate I'd ever work for and I work for some pretty large ones
[06:57] <Kilos> morning all of ya
[06:57] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy Squirm nuvolari inetpro 
[06:58]  * Kilos running off my pc-repair stick
[06:59] <Kilos> still need to find the booklet i wrote
[06:59] <Kilos> hi bduk1 
[06:59] <Kilos> se dankie vir mazal
[07:04] <Squirm> hey Kilos
[07:14] <Kilos> hi TinuvaMac 
[07:18] <inetpro> good mornings
[07:18]  * Kilos waves
[07:20] <TinuvaMac> morning Kilos
[07:21] <Kilos> dubbeltjies tyd alweer inetpro 
[07:21] <Kilos> ai!
[07:23]  * Kilos goes back to harddrive
[07:23] <Kilos> wbb
[07:34] <Kilos> me came again back
[07:34] <Kilos> Maaz: coffee on
[07:35]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[07:38] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[07:39] <Kilos> Maaz: gracias
[07:40] <Maaz> Kilos: ¡de nada!
[08:25] <Kilos> hmm...
[08:45] <ThatGraemeGuy_> rhmrmhrmhrmhm
[09:08] <Kilos> hehe
[11:10] <gremble> g'day
[11:11] <Kilos> hi gremble 
[11:11] <gremble> How are you today Kilos?
[11:11] <Kilos> im ok ty lad and you?
[11:12] <Kilos> trying to find my booklet
[11:12] <Kilos> sigh
[11:12] <Kilos> lost in 47500 files with numbers and no names
[11:15] <gremble> That sounds unfortunate
[11:15] <gremble> I have to drive to town to go pick up my sister's boyfriend
[11:15] <Kilos> lol i also mailed it somewhere but that was in 12.04 time so very many mails to sort through
[11:15] <Kilos> what a twit
[11:16] <Kilos> go safe
[11:31] <ThatGraemeGuy> anyone made an payments using paypal lately?
[12:55] <Kilos> you back now gremble 
[12:57] <gremble> Yes. My internet is just being wonky
[13:00] <Kilos> how good are you at editing books
[13:01] <Kilos> haha i used libreoffice writer and dunno how to make everything be under the last one
[14:36] <somaunn> hi Kilos
[14:36] <Kilos> hi somaunn 
[14:37] <Kilos> i just woke up
[14:37] <ThatGraemeGuy> lazy bones :P
[14:37] <Kilos> lol
[14:37] <Kilos> old bones
[14:48] <Kilos> oi
[15:19] <gremble> Kilos: I apologise, this connection is really terrible. Why did you ask whether I was any good with editing books?
[15:20] <Kilos> i  wrote one small booklett and it isnt all on one side
[15:21] <Kilos> pages are staggered
[15:21] <Kilos> so you have to keep moving left and right
[15:21] <gremble> Oh. I have never messed with layout before. Only language editing
[15:23] <Kilos> this was 2 years ago and the fly did some sorting now i am lost. read lots of lireoffice writer stuff at the time, now its all gone
[15:36] <Kilos> Fetched 90,9 MB in 2min 1s (748 kB/s)   
[15:36] <Kilos> my net working lekker
[15:40] <Kilos> wbb
[15:54] <somaunn> hi guys
[15:54] <Kilos> whats news somaunn 
[15:54] <somaunn> good Kilos
[15:54] <Kilos> thats good
[15:54] <somaunn> wish i could get some advices
[15:55] <Kilos> oh i found a site where you can download free linux books
[15:55] <Kilos> one was redhat or fedora
[15:55] <Kilos> ill try find it just now
[15:55] <somaunn> i want to organize in-house hackfest or hack parties but still I odn't how they are organized
[15:55] <Kilos> didnt i leave a message with maaz for you?
[15:56] <somaunn> Kilos: i receved it, Maaz did deliver it to me 
[15:56] <Kilos> for starters you make sure you got good internet then you invite geeks
[15:56] <Kilos> ah good
[15:57] <Kilos> then you get each one to bring something different to eat and drink
[15:58] <somaunn> Kilos: please let me summarize it 
[15:59] <Kilos> lol im just guessing man
[15:59] <somaunn> 1- Good Internet link
[15:59] <somaunn> 2- Every person to come with soft drink
[15:59] <somaunn> 3- invite Geeks
[15:59] <somaunn> am I right
[15:59] <somaunn> ?
[16:00] <Kilos> yeah
[16:00] <Kilos> also you can contact some before hand to see what theyd like to do then you add what you want to do
[16:01] <Kilos> what do you want to hack?
[16:02] <somaunn> Kilos: nice question and that is the first Point ... I though Hackfest was like parties where we come learn then apply learned or acquired tekniks 
[16:03] <Kilos> i thought it was for hacking apps that dont work
[16:03] <gremble> Pretty sure that both those are valid definitions
[16:04] <somaunn> Think that's also a point to consider
[16:04] <gremble> You'd probably have to decide what it is that you want to do
[16:04] <Kilos> but your main aim is first to get a group together to get to know each other and share ideas
[16:05] <Kilos> just have a geeknick for starters
[16:05] <somaunn> first i want it to be a moment where we come and share knowledges by presenting already prepared topics (html5, linux, cli, etc...)
[16:05] <Kilos> ok
[16:08] <Kilos> mail them and see who is having the most problems with what then build from there
[16:09] <somaunn> Kilos: nice ideas
[16:09] <somaunn> i was also thinking of starting from the begining "Linux: The Basics"
[16:10] <Kilos> or go with the lpi stuff
[16:10] <Kilos> Maaz: lpi manuals
[16:10] <Maaz> Kilos: Huh?
[16:10] <Kilos> Maaz: lpi manual
[16:10] <Maaz> http://www.linuxcertification.co.za/sites/default/files/LPIManual_v_09.pdf
[16:11] <Kilos> just about everything is in there
[16:11] <somaunn> Well received Kilos
[16:14] <Kilos> gremble: give advice man
[16:14] <gremble> On?
[16:14] <Kilos> on the above stuff
[16:15] <gremble> Seems like you guys are sorting it out quite nicely
[16:15] <gremble> Choosing a topic depends on your audience
[16:15] <Kilos> ive never had a geek party
[16:15] <gremble> I generally don't play well with people, so I don't attend such things either
[16:16] <somaunn> gremble: a lot of things needs to be done in this area of the globe
[16:16] <Kilos> lol
[16:17] <Kilos> depending on the others is where you start
[16:17] <Kilos> if the are all IT pros then you might need to skip basics
[16:18] <Kilos> but if there are noobs too then split the group and do basics with the noobs
[16:19] <somaunn> wish we could start with "Linux: The Basics" then progressively move to others such as Cisco, html5, php, WiFi, Network troubleshooting etc...
[16:19] <Kilos> and if someone asks what is sudo then pull your hair out
[16:20] <somaunn> will focused on noobs then only invite geeks to present topics and animate workshops
[16:20] <Kilos> the trick is knowing your audience
[16:21] <Kilos> its good to help noobs and get a couple of pros to help you teach them and it should grow on its own
[16:22] <somaunn> yeah Kilos now you got it right bro
[16:22] <Kilos> oh ya in that link i sent you there is a variety of linux books, from beginners to admin
[16:27] <somaunn> also thinking we can do Ubuntu party sometime
[16:29] <Kilos> what i like about ubuntu is that mostly everything just works
[16:29] <Kilos> so not much fixing needed
[16:30] <somaunn> Yeah Kilos but if things works like that then we won't feel any difference with Win
[16:30] <Kilos> ubuntu has grown in leaps and bounds since 8.10
[16:31] <Kilos> do you prefer fixing things?
[16:32] <somaunn> yeah sometime, it gives me a better view of the system and I feel like flying 
[16:32] <Kilos> lol
[16:32] <somaunn> command...command...command....
[16:32] <somaunn> like in 24 "the serie"
[16:33] <Kilos> if you like playing install tinycorelinux and work your way through that
[16:33] <Kilos> or run it from ram
[16:34] <somaunn> Kilos: lol
[16:34] <somaunn> Vbox will be the medium
[16:34] <somaunn> can't sacrifice an hdd to do tests
[16:35] <Kilos> ya virtual is good
[16:35] <Kilos> you can even install on a flash drive
[16:36] <Kilos> i have a running fully upgraded 12.04.5 running on a 16g stick
[16:36] <somaunn> cool
[16:36] <Kilos> ideal tool for booting from and fixing other systems
[16:38] <somaunn> have to move for hours ... coming back soon
[16:45] <Kilos> hi SilverCode_ 
[16:45] <Kilos> you been very quiet
[16:46] <Kilos> oh you here twice
[17:00] <Kilos> i go eat
[17:24] <Kilos> first time ive seen this  -  apt-file update needed
[17:29] <Kilos> ohi superfly inetpro 
[17:36] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn 
[17:39] <nlsthzn> hello uncle Kilos :)
[17:42] <nlsthzn> any word from kbmonkey ?
[17:43] <Kilos> nope will mail him now or catch him on pidgin somewhere
[17:46] <Kilos> mailed him
[17:46] <Kilos> now we wait
[17:46] <nlsthzn> OK :)
[17:59] <Kilos> storm coming, power could go
[18:00] <nlsthzn> eskom could also go at any moment ;)
[18:00] <Kilos> lol
[18:29] <Kilos> dit reen nou lekker
[18:29] <Kilos> Maaz: seen bushtech
[18:29] <Maaz> Kilos: bushtech was last seen 4 days, 5 hours, 30 minutes and 12 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2014-11-22 04:59:30 PST], and has been offline on freenode since 2014-11-22 21:07:02 PST
[18:29] <Kilos> another holiday maker
[18:42] <magespawn> good evening
[18:42] <Kilos> hi my magespawn 
[18:43] <magespawn> did i miss anything after i dropped out last night?
[18:44] <Kilos> not much i think
[18:45] <magespawn> good i will check the minutes when i have a second
[18:45] <magespawn> or a minute
[20:08] <magespawn> good night all