[00:01] <mr_rourick> hi all, i'm still new to linux about 6month's now with ubuntu distro's, why is kubuntu 14.04.1 faster then xubuntu 14.04.1?
[00:02] <mr_rourick> google research tell's me xfce lighter then kde?
[00:04] <Monika> yes, Xfce is lighter than kde
[00:04] <Monika> not sure why Kubuntu is faster on your computer than Xubuntu
[00:04] <valorie> "lighter" means different things to different people
[00:05] <valorie> it all depends on what you test
[00:05] <mr_rourick> monika, i thought so wasn't 2 sure ty
[00:05] <mr_rourick> i a unity x user so wasn't sure
[00:06] <mr_rourick> kde and 14.04 just super fast on laptop
[00:06] <mr_rourick> anyway's thank's, gonna keep this kde on here hagd all
[01:12] <keithzg> mr_rourick, Monika: Kubuntu and Xubuntu use entirely different compositors for their sessions, I'd guess that KWin just happens to work fine whereas there's some bug of some kind with the one being used (Compiz still, I think?) and the specific graphics drivers in play.
[01:13] <Monika> yeah, I would suspect a hardware incompatibility
[01:13] <keithzg> Martin Gräßlin does some pretty amazing work on KWin, I'm not surprised to hear a case where it sounds like it's making a performance difference :)
[01:13] <Monika> :)
[01:14] <Monika> Martin lives here where I live, in Mannheim, by the way, he sometimes, but not very often, comes to the local Ubuntuuser meet-ups
[01:15] <Monika> I think he switched to SuSE recently, though
[02:52] <pedahzur> Monika: it's not listed in Entries, oddly enough.
[05:47] <Guest96797> hey guys, all good? question, has anyone faced having a black display when trying to boot from a USB drive with the plasma 5 tech preview?
[05:47] <Guest96797> I can't install
[06:17] <beluga_> anyone want to test this easy-to-reproduce bug that seems to be specific to Kubuntu: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86400
[06:27] <hateball> beluga_: I don't even know what the "sidebar" is
[06:27] <hateball> Or I would
[06:29] <beluga_> hateball: if you have a version that has it (I think it was introduced in 4.2), it can be enabled/disabled from View - Sidebar
[06:31] <hateball> so it seems, yes
[07:14] <soee> good morning
[13:13] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:13] <zmaj> hi
[13:16] <soee> hiho
[13:17] <BluesKaj> hey soee
[13:22] <zmaj> so what's up?
[13:50] <zmaj> can't wait for kubuntu 15.04 with kde 5
[13:50] <lordievader> zmaj: You are welcome to test it :)
[13:51] <zmaj> ok
[13:52] <lordievader> zmaj: Be sure to report your findings on the devel mailing list or in #kubuntu-devel ;)
[13:53] <zmaj> I just wonder how to install it on my test image of ubuntu desktop next alongsied windows 8...I don't have a terminal on that one...
[13:53] <lordievader> zmaj: Use a VM, installing a development release on a production machine is not a good idea.
[13:54] <zmaj> probably.
[14:51] <roasted> hello
[15:08] <lordievader> Hey roasted
[17:29] <BluesKaj> BBL
[17:57] <MobileRoey> hello everyone
[17:58]  * genii makes more coffee
[17:58] <MobileRoey> I'm trying to find out why my system suddenly massively slowed down after my upgrade from 14.04 -> 14.10.
[17:58] <MobileRoey> Reading package list... <-- that part in apt-get update is VERY slow
[17:58] <MobileRoey> as is Firefox's performance.  Just very, very slow.
[17:59] <MobileRoey> why is it so slow?  How can I verify if it is due to certain settings or bad builds?
[18:01] <mparillo> MobileRoey: I have noticed the Firefox has become slower if you start with multiple tabs open. For 90% of the sites I visit, rekonq works, and is much faster than FF, Chrome, or Chromium.
[18:01] <MobileRoey> ok
[18:01] <MobileRoey> mparillo:  typically I can have like 80 tabs open
[18:01] <MobileRoey> or 200+ tabs
[18:01] <MobileRoey> in different tab groups of course
[18:01] <mparillo> Alas, 10% of the sites seem to crash rekonq. Oh, you are WAY beyond what I tried. I had in mind 20 tabs or so.
[18:01] <MobileRoey> and yeah I did notice that having multiple rows of tabs open results in a much slower Firefox--but it wasn't like his before I upgraded to version 33 with Kubuntu 14.10
[18:02] <MobileRoey> har, har har
[18:02] <MobileRoey> I'm kind of wary of upgrading my machine at work from 14.04 -> 14.10 as well, because of this.
[18:10] <mparillo> MobileRoey: The main reason to be wary is if you do not like Plasma 5, 14.10 will be supported with bug fixes and patches only 9 months or so, while 14.04 is LTS (so you want to stay there if you want to hold off on Plasma 5 for a couple of years).
[18:10] <mparillo> IMHO of course.
[18:25] <MobileRoey> ok
[18:26] <MobileRoey> mparillo:  still though how can I speed Firefox (Fx) back up to how it used to perform before the upgrade?
[19:15] <FailBit> hello!
[19:16] <FailBit> I just burned a kubuntu livecd for my PowerMac G5, but I can't get good graphics — everything turns out pink and corrupt
[19:17] <FailBit> I'm in single-user mode right now on a fresh boot.
[19:17] <FailBit> `modprobe nvidiafb` says 'cannot request PCI regions'
[19:21] <FailBit_> ok, I'm logged in to irssi on this mac
[19:22] <FailBit_> any advice on how I might be able to get a GUI here?
[19:22] <FailBit_> btw -- livecd I'm using is Kubuntu 12.04 Desktop for PPC
[19:23] <FailBit_> so I don't have lightdm, I have kdm...
[19:23] <BluesKaj> sudo service kdm start
[19:24] <FailBit_> the graphics are still corrupt on display
[19:24] <FailBit_> I guess I could live with my CLI, but this isn't ideal.
[19:25] <FailBit_> # service kdm stop
[19:29] <BluesKaj> FailBit_, which gpu ?
[19:30] <FailBit_> BluesKaj, an nvidia I think
[19:30]  * FailBit_ looking it up
[19:30] <FailBit_> GeForce 6800 Ultra
[19:31] <FailBit> https://i.imgur.com/T4ugx4F.jpg
[19:32] <FailBit_> ^ that's what I see after starting kdm
[19:32] <BluesKaj> you should be running the nouveau/default nvidia driver at least, but I think the 304 or 313 driver should work on your gpu
[19:33] <FailBit_> apt-get install nvidia-304 ?
[19:33] <BluesKaj> yes
[19:33] <FailBit_> will I have to reboot? (can't do that with livecd)
[19:34] <BluesKaj> not if X isn't running
[19:34] <FailBit_> X is not running. Ok, I'll try it.
[19:35] <FailBit_> hmm
[19:35] <FailBit_> E: Unable to locate package nvidia-304
[19:35]  * FailBit_ looks in /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:36] <FailBit_> Does nvidia-304 have a candidate for ppc?
[19:36] <FailBit_> *ppc64
[19:36] <BluesKaj> FailBit_, install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:37] <FailBit_> E: Unable to locate package kubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:38] <mparillo> MobileRoey: Sorry, I do not know the answer to that.
[19:38] <BluesKaj> make sure you have restricted and multiverse repos enabled
[19:38] <BluesKaj> FailBit_,^
[19:39] <BluesKaj> FailBit_, which kubuntu version are you on?
[19:39] <FailBit_> 12.04
[19:39] <FailBit_> ppc livecd
[19:39] <BluesKaj> oh , 12.04 probly doesn't have the 304 driver available
[19:39]  * FailBit_ adds multiverse sourc
[19:40] <FailBit_> source
[19:40] <BluesKaj> and you should be using 14.04 if you want an LTS
[19:40]  * FailBit_ installs kubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:40] <FailBit_> BluesKaj: where's the 14.04 ppc livecd iso?
[19:40] <FailBit_> couldn't find it from a quick search...
[19:42] <FailBit_> nvm, no blank cds right now.
[19:43] <BluesKaj> FailBit_, thereisn't a 14.04 ppc image available anyway
[19:44] <FailBit_> ubuntu was my hope to save this useless mac
[19:44] <FailBit_> 12.04 is still useful
[19:45] <genii> There's a server PPC image. Not sure if you caould install kubuntu-desktop afterwards but maybe
[19:45]  * FailBit looks frantically for CDs
[19:46] <genii> They are at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/14.04.1/release/
[19:46] <genii> ( not livecd though, just install ones )
[19:47] <FailBit> Can I run the CLI install wizard from the livecd I have?
[19:47] <BluesKaj> FailBit the 304 driver is supported according to this http://www.nvidia.ca/object/IO_32667.html
[19:48] <FailBit> BluesKaj: but it's proprietary, right? And compiled for Intel...
[19:48] <genii> FailBit: You have some debian based PPC on it right now? If so can do debootstrap
[19:49] <FailBit> I'd need a CLI partitioner tool
[19:49] <genii> FailBit: What livecd you have there right now?
[19:50] <BluesKaj> FailBit, compiled for intel? never heard of that kind of driver
[19:50] <FailBit> genii: kubuntu 12.04 desktop, ppc
[19:50] <FailBit> BluesKaj: compiled for Intel == doesn't run on the PPC
[19:51] <BluesKaj> never heard of that
[19:52] <FailBit> The PowerPC is a big-endian processor made by IBM and used in early Apple computers
[19:52] <FailBit> Like my PowerMac G5
[19:52] <pedahzur> FailBit: A modern IBM Power servers. Also rumored to be in servers being made my Google for their data centers.
[19:53] <FailBit> The PowerPC is also used in Nintendo's GameCube, Wii, and Wii U (the Wii U using PPC64 arch)
[19:53] <BluesKaj> dunno much about macs, never owned one
[19:54] <FailBit> Consider the PPC about as able to run Intel code as the Raspberry Pi
[19:55] <BluesKaj> never owned a raspi ...maybe someday
[19:55] <FailBit> If you have a mobile phone, it probably has an ARMv7 processor
[19:56] <BluesKaj> heh, got an old moto flip phone for emergencies and travel
[19:57] <genii> FailBit: You could boot to it, partition and format with whatever's built in there ( I think gparted) , drop to a commandline to install debootstrap. Then mount the drive, and run like debootstrap --arch=PPC trusty /mountpoint  http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu     ... then you need to find the UUID of it's / and make an fstab entry for it. Then bindmount livecd's /sys /proc and /dev to the new install's ones, chroot there and run the grub-install
[19:57] <genii> /dev/sda ( or so) along with update-grub after and update-initramfs -u
[19:57]  * genii wanders back to the coffeepot
[19:57] <FailBit_> genii, sounds good, will try
[19:59] <genii> FailBit: That should give you a minimal cli bootable system, after you can install whatever *buntu-desktop, etc. Might need to expand the sources.list though, I think it only installs main by default
[19:59]  * FailBit_ clueless on using parted
[20:02] <FailBit_> argh.
[20:02] <FailBit_> might have to do this in osx
[20:03] <austin6598> can i easily upgrade from the beta to the official release once it comes out?
[20:04] <FailBit> # do-release-upgrade
[20:04] <austin6598> will i lose any data?
[20:04] <austin6598> how stable is Kubuntu 14.10 Plasma 5 — Tech Preview?
[20:05] <austin6598> FailBit?
[20:07] <roasted> Is kubuntu planning to use pulse audio at any point or are they sticking to phonon?
[20:08] <BluesKaj> austin6598, plasma 5 is still experimental...draw your own conclusions
[20:08] <austin6598> BluesKaj have you used it?
[20:08] <austin6598> BluesKaj can i upgrade without losing all my installed packages and configurations
[20:08] <BluesKaj> roasted, pulseaudio is installed by default
[20:09] <BluesKaj> austin6598, no , your configs will be gone
[20:09] <austin6598> BluesKaj can i upgrade from a stable version without losing all my settings?
[20:10] <genii> roasted: Since my Vivid seems to be getting a lot of phonon updates.... I'd hazard a guess they are sticking with it for now
[20:10] <BluesKaj> roasted, as is phonon
[20:11] <roasted> I only saw phonon in the settings so I assumed, possibly incorrectly, that pulse wasn't there
[20:11] <BluesKaj> austin6598,  I'm on plasma 5, it's like installing a brand new desktop, your formere configuration files are overwrtitten or gone
[20:12] <BluesKaj> roasted, it's not an either or
[20:12] <austin6598> BluesKaj what about upgrading from plasma 5 to the stable version of kubuntu plasma 5 when it releases?
[20:13] <roasted> I see. Thanks for the clarification.
[20:13] <BluesKaj> austin6598, we'll have to wait and see , but I assume plasma 5 configs will survive the transition
[20:14] <BluesKaj> !phonon
[20:14] <BluesKaj> hmm
[20:14] <roasted> I hope streaming over samba gets fixed in upcoming version
[20:14] <roasted> That bug is like 2 years old :(
[20:15] <lordievader> roasted: Phonon runs on top of Pulseaudio.
[20:16] <genii> I haven't really messed with my sound system since I had that !intelhda issue
[20:18]  * lordievader has a nifty sound server :D
[20:20] <genii> What linux needs is a per-app equalizer of some kind
[20:21] <BluesKaj> linux needsa comprehensive sound suite from the kernel up to the desktop
[20:21] <BluesKaj> not the mishmash we have now
[20:23] <genii> Yea, alsa, phonon, pulseaudio, OSS,  etc ... unify or something.
[20:46] <valorie> !grub
[20:49] <FailBit> made a new ext4 fs on /dev/sda2
[20:52] <h_boyz> Good evening!
[20:52] <h_boyz> I have some problem to run java on Chrome Kubuntu 14.10, can you help me?
[20:53] <FailBit> Does ports.ubuntu.com have arch PPC64?
[20:53] <FailBit> that would be ideal for debbootstrap I think
[20:53] <FailBit> h_boyz: why you using google-chrome?
[20:53] <FailBit> Use chromium-browser (better) or firefox
[20:55] <h_boyz> No, i have all three browser, but java work correctly only on firefox and i don't know why.
[20:55] <h_boyz> I wont learn!
[20:56] <h_boyz> But my prefered browser is Firefox :-)
[20:59] <FailBit> genii: ping
[21:00] <FailBit> genii: ports.ubuntu.com doesn't have an entry for main/binary-PPC/Packages
[21:02] <FailBit_> Machine partitioned, debootstrap available.
[21:02] <genii> FailBit: OK, let me look into it. Might be some different --arch spec needed
[21:03] <genii> FailBit: Try powerpc instead of PPC
[21:03] <genii> ( but otherwise identical command as before)
[21:04] <FailBit_> genii: thanks
[21:04] <FailBit_> working
[21:04] <genii> Cool.
[21:10] <genii> FailBit: I'll be around for about another hour today, hopefully we can get you a bootable box by then
[21:12] <FailBit_> genii: base system installed to /media/ubuntu (/dev/sda2), what next?
[21:12] <FailBit_> still have apple bootloader
[21:12] <genii> FailBit: Next thing is to run blkid  and find the UUID for sda2
[21:13] <FailBit_> It's rather long
[21:13] <genii> FailBit: Will need this for it's /etc/fstab
[21:13] <FailBit_> cat >> /etc/fstab # (?)
[21:13] <genii> FailBit: Please pastebin result of sudo blkid | grep sda2   and I will edit to make fstab you can copy
[21:14] <FailBit_> isn't there a wgetpaste thingy
[21:14] <FailBit_> I don't wanna retype that UUID
[21:14] <h_boyz> i have another question if possible, i cannot adjust my brigthness! Or rather, the display work correctly but the brightness don't change.
[21:15] <genii> FailBit: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo blkid | grep sda2 | pastebinit
[21:15] <FailBit_> no such package
[21:16] <FailBit_> crap
[21:16]  * FailBit_ sshing into computer
[21:19] <FailBit_> genii: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9274348/
[21:21] <genii> FailBit: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9274356/
[21:21] <genii> work, afk a couple minutes
[21:22] <FailBit> genii: entire contents of /media/ubuntu/etc/fstab ?
[21:24] <genii> FailBit: Where do you have the target mounted right now?
[21:24] <FailBit> /dev/sda2 -> /media/ubuntu
[21:24] <genii> Ah, good. Wasn't sure a moment if it's / was ina subdir there
[21:25] <genii> FailBit: Yes, just copy the pastebin i gave over to that
[21:25] <valorie> certainly there is such a package
[21:25] <valorie> !info pastebinit
[21:25] <genii> ( /media/ubuntu/etc/fstab )
[21:26] <genii> valorie: They perhaps did not yet do an apt-get update from tyhe livecd
[21:26] <valorie> ah
[21:26] <austin6598> I'm trying to install Kubuntu off a USB and it gets stuck
[21:26] <valorie> ah
[21:26] <genii> FailBit: OK, fstab copied over?
[21:26] <valorie> did you verify the ISO?
[21:27] <valorie> seems like there were a lot of imcomplete downloads this time, for some reason
[21:27] <valorie> I had a couple myself
[21:27] <valorie> !md5
[21:28] <austin6598> I used suse studio ImageWriter
[21:28] <valorie> you can still verify the image
[21:28] <valorie> no matter how you wrote it to the USB
[21:28] <FailBit> genii: hang on
[21:28] <FailBit> gotta baste a turkey :S
[21:28] <valorie> or downloaded it originally
[21:28] <FailBit> *:D
[21:29] <austin6598> It came straight from kubuntu website
[21:30] <FailBit_> austin6598: it doesn't matter where it came from, it could still be corrupt
[21:30] <genii> FailBit: I'll go have a smoke and return :)
[21:30] <valorie> austin6598: right, and there is lots of places for bits to fall off between the website and you
[21:31] <valorie> that's one of the reasons I torrent/seed all of them
[21:31] <valorie> ktorrent always verifies the data
[21:33] <austin6598> My hash is not on the Ubuntu website
[21:33] <FailBit> UDP is a strange protocol.
[21:33] <lisacvuk> hi, can someone help me?
[21:33] <austin6598> does it matter that I used opensuse terminal not ubuntu
[21:33] <lisacvuk> i got openGl error on every game
[21:36] <FailBit_> genii: emplaced line into /etc/fstab
[21:36] <lisacvuk> for example in minetest, heres my console: lisacvuk@the-core:/media/lisacvuk/baaf8f3b-56ee-41e4-957c-13dc7ce32ad1$ minetest
[21:36] <lisacvuk> Irrlicht log: Irrlicht Engine version 1.8.1
[21:36] <lisacvuk> Irrlicht log: Linux 3.16.0-25-generic #33-Ubuntu SMP Tue Nov 4 12:05:25 UTC 2014 i686
[21:36] <lisacvuk> Irrlicht log: Using renderer: OpenGL 2.1
[21:36] <lisacvuk> Irrlicht log: Gallium 0.4 on i915 (chipset: 945G): Mesa Project
[21:36] <lisacvuk> Irrlicht log: OpenGL driver version is 1.2 or better.
[21:36] <unopaste> lisacvuk you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[21:36] <austin65981> i just googled my hash and if you look on this website i have the same one where is says MD5: http://burnbit.com/torrent/317787/kubuntu_plasma5_14_10_desktop_amd64_iso
[21:36] <austin65981> i did not download it from their though
[21:37] <lisacvuk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9274500/
[21:38] <lisacvuk> please
[21:38] <genii> FailBit: OK, good. Now we need to expand the sources.list there. I'll post one for you in a minute to copy over
[21:38] <lisacvuk> i recently added updated drivers PPA
[21:38] <FailBit> genii: plain text please?
[21:38] <FailBit> http://paste.debian.net
[21:38] <FailBit> has a plaintext interface not requiring auth
[21:40] <genii> FailBit: OK.
[21:40] <FailBit> Typing is hard work, especially when you only have a text console.
[21:43] <genii> FailBit: http://paste.debian.net/133870/
[21:44] <FailBit> FailBit_: http://paste.debian.net/plain/133870
[21:45] <FailBit_> genii: done
[21:45] <FailBit_> curl X > /media/ubuntu/etc/apt/sources.list
[21:46] <FailBit_> genii: now chroot in and update sources?
[21:47] <genii> FailBit: Good :)  Now, bindmount /dev /proc and /sys into the same dirs on the mount, and chroot there. eg:  sudo mount -o bind /dev /media/ubuntu/dev    ....for all three of those
[21:47] <genii> FailBit: Do the bindmounts first :)
[21:48] <FailBit_> filesystems bound, chrooted in
[21:49] <genii> FailBit: adduser new-name-here sudo
[21:49] <FailBit_> > adduser: The user `liam' does not exist.
[21:51] <FailBit_> passwd: user 'liam' does not exist
[21:51] <austin65981> ok i redownloaded the iso and got the same hash
[21:51] <austin65981> what else could be wrong?
[21:51] <genii> FailBit: Try instead then: useradd liam && usermod -aG sudo
[21:52] <genii> FailBit: sorry, syntax prob.
[21:52] <genii> FailBit: usermod -aG sudo liam
[21:52] <FailBit_> usermod -aG sudo liam
[21:52] <FailBit_> right
[21:52] <genii> Hehe, yes
[21:53] <FailBit_> I'm no Linux amateur. :)
[21:53] <FailBit_> genii: mkay, login works (i set myself a password)
[21:53] <genii> FailBit: Good. Now you can add some nameserver entries to /etc/resolv.conf    ( google's for instance at 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4)
[21:54] <genii> FailBit: After that, apt-get update
[21:54] <genii> work, afk
[21:54] <FailBit_> genii: that doesn't seem to be necessary (resolvconf entries)
[21:55] <FailBit_> updated sources.
[21:55] <austin65981> can i use suse studio imagewriter to put kubuntu install on a usb?
[21:57] <genii> FailBit: install package grub2 and linux-image-generic
[21:58] <FailBit_> E: Unable to locate package linux-image-generic
[21:59] <genii> FailBit: What does: ls /vm*    say?
[21:59] <genii> ( ideally vmlinuz there)
[21:59] <FailBit_> ls: cannot access /vm*: No such file or directory
[22:00] <genii> OK, have to interrogate the bot a minute now :)
[22:00] <FailBit_> (note: I haven't installed grub2 yet)
[22:00] <genii> FailBit: Try grub2 and see if it automatically puts it there
[22:01] <FailBit_> ls: cannot access /vm*: No such file or directory
[22:01] <austin65981> can anyone help me?
[22:02] <genii> !info grub2:powerpc trusty
[22:02]  * genii smacks the bot
[22:02] <genii> FailBit: I have to go do the lockdown routine here at work, will be back in 5-7 minutes
[22:02] <FailBit> ok
[22:13] <genii> FailBit: Back. When you installed grub2 did it run grub-install ?
[22:14] <FailBit> No.
[22:14] <genii> FailBit: I would suggest to run it now then, to sda
[22:15] <FailBit_> grub-install //dev/sda
[22:15] <FailBit_> oops
[22:15] <FailBit_> grub-install /dev/sda
[22:15] <genii> Yup.
[22:15]  * genii makes more coffee and keeps an eye on the clock
[22:15] <genii> I have to go pay some bills before the places close in about an hour
[22:16] <FailBit_> grub-install: error: the chosen partition is not a PReP partition.
[22:16] <FailBit_> odd
[22:16] <genii> I've not seen that one before
[22:17] <genii> FailBit: Try without the sda
[22:17] <FailBit_> just `grub-install`?
[22:17] <genii> Yes :)
[22:17] <FailBit_> Installation finished. No error reported.
[22:18] <genii> OK.
[22:18] <genii> FailBit: Now update-grub    and after update-initramfs -u
[22:18] <genii> Oh, wait, not initramfs, chroot kernel.
[22:18] <genii> Tired, sorry
[22:20] <genii> FailBit: Did update-grub run OK ?
[22:20] <FailBit_> yes, it did
[22:20] <FailBit_> it did not find a bootable linux partition
[22:20] <FailBit_> just Mac OS X on /dev/sda3
[22:20] <genii> Bah.
[22:21] <genii> FailBit: Need to install some kernel. If no linux-image-generic ... does apt-cache search linux-image    ...have any result?
[22:22] <FailBit_> tons
[22:22] <FailBit_> I want 3.13.0 kernel r40?
[22:22] <genii> !info linux-image-generic
[22:22] <FailBit_> that's for unicorn
[22:22] <FailBit_> what's for trusty?
[22:22] <genii> !info linux-image-generic trusty
[22:22] <genii> Yeah looks like 40
[22:23] <FailBit_> linux-image-3.13.0-40-powerpc
[22:23] <genii> FailBit: Good :)
[22:24] <genii> FailBit: After that should see the /vmlinuz and update-grub should be able to see it
[22:24] <FailBit_> genii: I'm looking up whether I need the e500mc or smp variant
[22:25] <FailBit_> I think I need the smp variant
[22:25] <FailBit_> `arch` == ppc64
[22:25] <FailBit_> so
[22:25] <FailBit_> linux-image-3.13.0-40-powerpc64-smp
[22:27] <FailBit_> genii: It wants to install yaboot over gruv
[22:27] <FailBit_> *grub
[22:28] <FailBit_> nvm, it set up yaboot but did not write yaboot as bootloader
[22:28] <FailBit_> update-grub ran again, found linux
[22:29] <FailBit_> should I reboot?
[22:30] <genii> Yep
[22:30] <genii> FailBit: Should have now a minimal CLI Trusty there
[22:31]  * genii goes and grabs a coffee
[22:33] <genii> Hm, I see now they installed a 64bit PPC kernel. Dunno if it's gonna work
[22:33] <FailBit> The G5 is 64-bit
[22:33] <FailBit> and it did not boot into grub, no.
[22:34] <genii> FailBit: Yes, but when we did debootstrap then we could have used ppc64el , I believe
[22:34] <FailBit> I will install a 32bit ppc kernel
[22:34] <genii> Although, I am not overly certain on this, don't normally work with these platforms :)
[22:37] <austin65981> can i use suse studio imagewriter to put kubuntu install on a usb?
[22:38] <archetech2> sudo kf5-config --version    gives   ...
[22:38] <archetech2> QStandardPaths: XDG_RUNTIME_DIR not set, defaulting to '/tmp/runtime-root'
[22:39] <archetech2> after update from unstable
[22:41] <FailBit> installing ppc32 kernel
[22:42] <genii> FailBit: OK. I have to leave in about 15 minutes
[22:44] <FailBit> genii: it skipped any trace of grub and booted straight to osx again
[22:45] <genii> FailBit: Meh :-/
[22:45] <FailBit> Maybe yaboot is necessary, idk
[22:45] <genii> FailBit: I'll be back in tomorrow 9-5 EDT and we can continue, unless another takes it up. Might want to try #ubuntu-powerpc but there is like 12 people usually in there
[22:46] <FailBit> Ok, thanks for the help genii !
[22:46] <genii> FailBit: You're welcome, although I wish we could have gotten further :)
[22:47] <FailBit> I think I'm almost there :)
[22:49] <austin6598> this is what i get when i boot to kubuntu isntallation usb: http://susepaste.org/67705808
[22:54] <austin6598> http://susepaste.org/54894952
[22:55] <austin6598> this is what i get when i boot to kubuntu installation usb: http://susepaste.org/54894952
[22:56] <buriedalive> austin6598 wrong way
[22:56] <buriedalive> austin6598 use better linux slax for usb
[22:57] <buriedalive> it is utopia
[22:57] <buriedalive> kubuntu on the usb
[22:57] <austin6598> this: http://www.slax.org
[22:57] <buriedalive> yes? got it
[22:58] <austin6598> im looking to install it on my pc, and it needs to be compatible with regular kubuntu packages
[23:00] <buriedalive> wait plz
[23:01] <buriedalive> try http://slax.org.ru/get.html
[23:02] <buriedalive> resolve to english?
[23:02] <bazhang> buriedalive, slax is not on topic here
[23:02] <austin6598> what is slax based off?
[23:02] <bazhang> lets stick to kubuntu
[23:03] <buriedalive> bazhang ok
[23:03] <bazhang> austin6598, buriedalive feel free to discuss it in #kubuntu-offtopic
[23:03] <austin6598> this is what i get when i boot to kubuntu installation usb: http://susepaste.org/54894952
[23:04] <austin6598> help me!!!!!!!!!!!
[23:09] <austin6598> bazhang so you only respond when we talk offtopic
[23:09] <buriedalive> austin6598 see me?
[23:15] <buriedalive> austin6598 go to #kubuntu-offtopic
[23:22] <buriedalive> austin6598 based on slackware, de - kde for usb special