| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| * m0nkey_ tickles diddledan | 00:19 | |
| m0nkey_ | Popsicle! | 00:32 |
|---|---|---|
| daftykins | :o | 00:34 |
| m0nkey_ | the wife did that | 00:48 |
| daftykins | lol, do you guys know diddledan? | 00:49 |
| m0nkey_ | That'll teach me not to hit Super+L | 00:49 |
| m0nkey_ | Yeah, long time. | 00:49 |
| daftykins | you poor poor... | 00:49 |
| daftykins | ;D | 00:49 |
| m0nkey_ | First knew him from IrCQNet | 00:49 |
| m0nkey_ | Wow, approx 10+ years ago | 00:49 |
| m0nkey_ | I'm old | 00:49 |
| m0nkey_ | bbiab.. play time (GTA) | 00:50 |
| shauno_ | morning | 00:51 |
| daftykins | hey shauno_, how goes it? | 00:51 |
| shauno_ | same old same old :) | 00:51 |
| daftykins | :D | 00:52 |
| * daftykins sips Guinness | 00:52 | |
| === shauno_ is now known as shauno | ||
| m0nkey_ | shauno, ircqnet, shaun per chance? | 00:54 |
| shauno | yup | 00:54 |
| daftykins | :O | 00:54 |
| m0nkey_ | heh | 00:54 |
| shauno | I have very little imagination when it comes to nicks | 00:54 |
| m0nkey_ | Probably know me as Wellard, used to be CtrlAltDel.. long time ago | 00:55 |
| shauno | oh hah, hey dave | 00:55 |
| m0nkey_ | yeah, he remembers | 00:55 |
| m0nkey_ | :) | 00:55 |
| m0nkey_ | how goes it? | 00:55 |
| shauno | still alive! | 00:55 |
| m0nkey_ | diddledan told me you hang here | 00:55 |
| mapps | hi | 04:59 |
| mapps | strange noone awake for once | 06:16 |
| MooDoo | morning all | 07:57 |
| twager | ls -a | 08:27 |
| DJones | This is not the terminal you are looking for | 08:36 |
| MooDoo | lol | 08:41 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| === zmoylan-1i is now known as zmoylan-pi | ||
| JamesTait | Good morning all; happy Phillip Hughes Day! :-D | 09:34 |
| MooDoo | morning JamesTait | 09:36 |
| JamesTait | MooDoo, o/ | 09:36 |
| czajkowski | aloha | 09:39 |
| JamesTait | czajkowski, \o | 09:40 |
| czajkowski | hows things? | 09:42 |
| zmoylan-pi | saw an adorable pug pigy bank and thought of bash last week | 09:43 |
| czajkowski | https://www.facebook.com/pages/Bonkers-Bash/739967579348639?fref=ts | 09:44 |
| czajkowski | most up to date pics | 09:44 |
| MooDoo | loved the "why don't you play with me" picture lol | 09:46 |
| czajkowski | yes he does give that face a lot while I try and work | 09:54 |
| MooDoo | awwwww lol | 09:55 |
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 09:57 |
| zmoylan-pi | greetings earthlings. | 09:57 |
| brobostigon | morning zmoylan-pi | 09:58 |
| foobarry | arggh lightning deals :( | 10:04 |
| foobarry | i should wait until december to buy presents because amazon are getting me to buy more | 10:04 |
| zmoylan-pi | at least the web will be faster today as americans are stuck with family in a reduced number of locations and the bandwidth of their parents sucks | 10:05 |
| === JamesTai1 is now known as JamesTait | ||
| davmor2 | JamesTait: why would you be happy at someones death and then laugh about it at the end ;) | 10:29 |
| bigcalm | Good morning peeps :) | 10:40 |
| dogmatic69 | o/ | 10:40 |
| davmor2 | morning bigcalm what time did you guys leave last night? | 10:47 |
| bigcalm | davmor2: about 10ish. Did you turn up after that? | 10:54 |
| davmor2 | bigcalm: no I knocked off around then and thought about coming up just as well I didn't :) | 11:07 |
| bigcalm | Ah, yes | 11:09 |
| bigcalm | davmor2: you will be coming to the xmas meet/meal though, right? | 11:09 |
| davmor2 | bigcalm: indeed | 11:09 |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|afk | ||
| popey | I feel like I'm being judged http://popey.mooo.com/screenshots/device-2014-11-27-115941.png | 12:00 |
| bigcalm | That would be a nice thing to see on my phone | 12:02 |
| === alan_g|afk is now known as alan_g | ||
| davmor2 | popey: that or he is wishing for a phone call :D | 12:03 |
| Myrtti | I might put this on mine http://i.imgur.com/939hV8R.jpg | 12:07 |
| zmoylan-pi | i usually just make a jpg with my phone number on it | 12:08 |
| czajkowski | https://twitter.com/czajkowski/status/537940305530855424 co working today :D | 12:10 |
| popey | yeah, i grabbed all those wallpapers | 12:10 |
| popey | hmm http://paradoxgirl.com/ | 12:10 |
| diplo | OK girls and boys, I'm in quite dire need of a phone | 12:18 |
| Myrtti | Nexus 5 | 12:19 |
| diplo | Not got a lot to spend, £100 -> £200 max as I'm rather skint | 12:19 |
| diplo | Second hand is ok, or maybe the new Moto ones that Tesco sell ? | 12:19 |
| * zmoylan-pi recommends nokia feature phone. terrible but indestructible and does web, email, mp3s, radio, ereader, irc if you're patient | 12:20 | |
| bigcalm | Tesco would be a good place to shop. There are loads of smart phones for less than 100 quid | 12:20 |
| Myrtti | Moto G | 12:20 |
| davmor2 | diplo: wait till tomorrow and see what is on offer in the black friday sale? | 12:20 |
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| diplo | Yeah probably am davmor2, just thought I'd ask recommendations here | 12:20 |
| bigcalm | I know we live in a global market, but that annoys me that such things make it over here | 12:20 |
| diplo | I was bidding on an S4 on Ebay yesterday for £130 | 12:20 |
| zmoylan-pi | my current nokia is from tescos where it was €29 :-) | 12:21 |
| diplo | I've still got my 6310 zmoylan-pi, still works :) | 12:21 |
| davmor2 | diplo: unless moto's policy has changed they tend to suck for updates | 12:21 |
| diplo | Until recently weren't they a google part, they still suck ? And to be honest I'm quite happy Roming a phone | 12:22 |
| zmoylan-pi | and when ever people ask i take it out and bonk it of floor or furniture to show indestructability :-D | 12:22 |
| Myrtti | if you want something new with that money, then Moto G | 12:22 |
| davmor2 | diplo: ^ I would say not anymore then is Myrtti 's comment is anything to go by | 12:23 |
| Myrtti | if you're fine with second hand, then Nexus 5 or her ilk. | 12:23 |
| diplo | I'm just ebaying it now Myrtti thanks | 12:24 |
| Myrtti | but Moto G seems good value for the money and had it been available when I was buying a phone for my sister a year ago, I would've gotten it instead of a second hand Nexus 4 | 12:24 |
| diplo | yeah I've bought one for my dad, he likes it but doesn't use it | 12:24 |
| diplo | Like I would | 12:24 |
| Myrtti | there's a new version of it, I can't remember what they changed but IIRC it's still good value for the 150 whatever it is | 12:25 |
| Myrtti | my sister adores her Nexus 4 :-) | 12:25 |
| diplo | Such ranging prices on ebay ( also don't like buying things like phones from ebay ) :/ | 12:33 |
| diplo | Going to look at the MotoG as well, pop in store or something | 12:33 |
| Myrtti | yeah, it's always a hassle | 12:33 |
| awilkins | diplo, Daughter has a Moto G ; I have no complaints | 12:42 |
| awilkins | Apparently getting a Lollipop upgrade soon also | 12:42 |
| awilkins | davmor2, You'd expect Motorola to be pretty sharp on updates... when they were owned by Google. But Lenovo own them now. | 12:44 |
| davmor2 | awilkins: they were awful but only in the uk in the us they were really on the ball | 12:45 |
| bigcalm | I was going to say. When I had the Xoom tablet, it got bugger all updates | 12:45 |
| awilkins | This is why I have a Nexus 4 | 12:45 |
| awilkins | Nexii 4 & 7 both got a nice factory-wipe and upgrade to 5 | 12:46 |
| awilkins | I like it | 12:46 |
| awilkins | Although possibly I like having a nice clean device with fewer apps on too... | 12:46 |
| Myrtti | sister got her L OTA on Nexus 4 day before | 12:48 |
| Myrtti | needed a bit of fumbling to get it to download but nothing a reboot wouldn't solve | 12:48 |
| awilkins | Yeah, doing a factory install is rather a fiddle | 12:49 |
| awilkins | I was bored | 12:49 |
| awilkins | Reading the specs of the Nexus 6. It completely poops all over PCs I owned until recently | 12:50 |
| zmoylan-pi | can it run ubuntu? | 12:51 |
| awilkins | It's screen completely poops all over all the main PC monitors I own*right now* | 12:51 |
| awilkins | I'm sure some enterprising soul will get Ubuntu running on it | 12:51 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| Jim_ | Can you guys help me how I should automate the skype in Zorion OS. I am feeling a bit annoyed to turn it on soon after restarting the sys everytime though. | 13:39 |
| daftykins | i believe Zorin may have their own support channel, on freenode | 13:40 |
| Jim_ | hey daftykins could you please direct me how I should head to that freenode? | 13:40 |
| Jim_ | Thanks for the reply by the way. | 13:40 |
| daftykins | someone might feel helpful and try to help you, but this is an Ubuntu channel for Ubuntu... despite one being based on another it doesn't make them the same | 13:40 |
| daftykins | well, they might have info on their website... otherwise you can try querying alis | 13:41 |
| daftykins | !alis | 13:41 |
| lubotu3` | alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" . For more help or questions relating to alis, please join #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http* | 13:41 |
| popey | Jim_: /join #zorinos | 13:41 |
| Jim_ | HI popey you came again. Thanks. | 13:42 |
| popey | there's like 10 people in there though, so you may need to wait a while in there | 13:42 |
| Jim_ | Oh. I have been to http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=ZorinOS&uio=OT10cnVlJjExPTIxNQ6cunder%20help-%3Eirc and none helps me here. | 13:42 |
| Jim_ | :( | 13:42 |
| daftykins | ah Zorin, for the "i can't believe it's not Windows" experience | 13:42 |
| popey | yeah, I'm not surprised you don't get a reply. | 13:43 |
| Jim_ | lubotu3 has said something which I didn't understand. I am sorry about it. | 13:43 |
| popey | lubotu3` is a bot | 13:43 |
| lubotu3` | Yes, I can confirm that I am a bot. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots for all information. | 13:43 |
| popey | lulz | 13:43 |
| daftykins | Jim_: do you think maybe you could also try #ubuntu-in today? :) | 13:44 |
| daftykins | maybe someone there uses it. | 13:44 |
| Jim_ | This time I need to fix my problem and shouldn't look at IRC chat for the same issue. | 13:44 |
| Jim_ | I am going to #ubuntu-in , #freenode, #ubuntu* hope they fix my issue. | 13:46 |
| Jim_ | Bye Popey | 13:47 |
| foobarry | i wouldn't agree that zorin is a "gateway to linux" if you can't get help with it | 13:52 |
| daftykins | heh | 13:52 |
| foobarry | gateway to $OLD_OS | 13:53 |
| Myrtti | which is exactly why I don't install anything but Ubuntu on anyone's machines | 13:53 |
| daftykins | getting pretty tired of seeing the Ubuntu derivative users come in "but it's Ubuntu really!" ... "but nobody's helping me in its channel!" | 13:54 |
| foobarry | i sometimes install windows7 if thats what they ask for | 13:54 |
| daftykins | even had a CentOS user asking for help the other day 0o | 13:54 |
| foobarry | was it me? | 13:54 |
| foobarry | :P | 13:54 |
| daftykins | lol no | 13:54 |
| daftykins | i think the best yet was yesterday | 13:54 |
| daftykins | <me> what version are you running? | 13:55 |
| daftykins | <user> umm that's a long story, but basically... trunk arch with unity compiled | 13:55 |
| daftykins | great ¬_¬ | 13:55 |
| foobarry | abandon all hope | 13:55 |
| foobarry | it seems my previous house owners used the most expensive wooden floor you can buy | 13:56 |
| daftykins | are you drilling holes in it? :D | 13:56 |
| foobarry | no, i'm trying to buy more of it | 13:57 |
| * davmor2 looks over at his Suse 6.3 box and wonders whatever happened to his corel linux box :) | 13:57 | |
| foobarry | £55.34 per m² | 13:57 |
| Myrtti | foobarry: I just tell them that if they want Windows7, they can ask for someone else for help | 13:59 |
| Myrtti | mind you, I did help my niece last week to pick the best iPad her money could buy | 13:59 |
| foobarry | when its ur mum and sibling its not so easy, but agree for othrs | 13:59 |
| Myrtti | but she knows I can't help her with it beyond that | 13:59 |
| daftykins | fair enough offer to support what you know, but to force people into a given choice is just silly | 14:00 |
| foobarry | was jim another of our indian friends? | 14:00 |
| daftykins | yep | 14:00 |
| foobarry | maybe popey means support desk in indian | 14:00 |
| daftykins | probably the same one, masquerading | 14:01 |
| foobarry | same behaviour but better english | 14:01 |
| popey | I thought the Jim who dropped by the other day was from the UK | 14:01 |
| popey | I mtr'ed his IP | 14:01 |
| daftykins | mtr? | 14:02 |
| popey | ya | 14:03 |
| * popey ♥ mtr | 14:03 | |
| daftykins | i just nslookup their IP, usually resolves to a domestic host :> | 14:03 |
| daftykins | although it's not working on the one over in #ubuntu right now | 14:03 |
| popey | mtr is fewer keypresses :D | 14:04 |
| daftykins | that it is! probably isn't on Windows as well though *checks* | 14:04 |
| daftykins | nope | 14:04 |
| popey | hate it when i mis-click on suspend instead of shutdown | 14:14 |
| popey | no no no no noooooooooooo | 14:15 |
| daftykins | :D | 14:15 |
| bigcalm | popey: at least it's that way around | 14:15 |
| popey | well yes | 14:15 |
| popey | but shutdown has confirmation | 14:15 |
| popey | suspend doesnt | 14:15 |
| mjayk | afternoon all | 14:23 |
| bigcalm | Fair enough | 14:24 |
| daftykins | greetings | 14:24 |
| bigcalm | When it comes to shutdown, I get annoyed by clicking restart instead of shutdown :D | 14:24 |
| zmoylan-pi | make a link to shutdown and put on desktop all on it's tod? | 14:26 |
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| foobarry | i use the power button | 14:29 |
| foobarry | :S | 14:29 |
| foobarry | then use arrow keys | 14:29 |
| foobarry | old skool | 14:29 |
| popey | RETRO COOL! | 14:29 |
| bigcalm | On the laptop, I press the power button then touch the screen to shutdown | 14:29 |
| foobarry | colleague just belched . now i can smell curry. not cool | 14:30 |
| zmoylan-pi | better up than down | 14:31 |
| daftykins | animals | 14:32 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| mjayk | A | 14:33 |
| daftykins | B | 14:33 |
| mjayk | i C what you did thur | 14:34 |
| daftykins | Did you? :> | 14:34 |
| mjayk | yEs i did | 14:35 |
| bigcalm | Fish | 14:38 |
| diplo | daftykins, WinMTR - standalone app | 14:41 |
| diplo | Quite good :) | 14:41 |
| mjayk | urgggggggggggghhh i have zero motivation to write stuff | 14:42 |
| foobarry | write what | 14:43 |
| foobarry | love letters? | 14:43 |
| foobarry | songs? poetry? code? | 14:43 |
| mjayk | thesis | 14:44 |
| mjayk | even worse! | 14:44 |
| awilkins | Learn LaTeX | 15:02 |
| awilkins | Then you can procrastinate about your thesis much more efficiently | 15:02 |
| Myrtti | LaTeX ♥ | 15:05 |
| Myrtti | I made the Wedding Survival Guide that we sent out with the invites with LaTeX | 15:06 |
| Myrtti | gotten nothing but compliments | 15:06 |
| bashrc | what are the advantages of LaTeX? | 15:06 |
| awilkins | It's basically a professional typographical syste, | 15:06 |
| awilkins | Does very attractive document layout without tarting around with Word buttons for 6 hours and swearing and biting the couch | 15:07 |
| Myrtti | it just works. flat file system that's readable and writable with any text editor, lends itself easily into version control | 15:07 |
| awilkins | Downside : Arcane | 15:07 |
| Myrtti | you can get great results with little to no effort, and if you want to you can tweak it to your hearts content | 15:08 |
| awilkins | Myrtti, you using LyX or straight LaTeX ? | 15:08 |
| Myrtti | straight latex | 15:08 |
| Myrtti | lyx is for peons | 15:08 |
| Myrtti | latex is supported by even Google Docs via an extension | 15:09 |
| awilkins | My sysadmin is using LyX | 15:09 |
| awilkins | :-) | 15:09 |
| awilkins | Oooh | 15:09 |
| Myrtti | also, pandoc | 15:09 |
| foobarry | its good for theses and books | 15:11 |
| awilkins | Yeah, we're kinda doing initial drafts of documents now | 15:12 |
| Myrtti | and slidesets, and CV's | 15:12 |
| foobarry | its quite distinctive classic sttyle | 15:12 |
| foobarry | jury's out on cvs | 15:12 |
| awilkins | Documents are stone boring, so the techies are doing it with these things | 15:12 |
| awilkins | I used Markdown / Pandoc and spat forth a PDF | 15:12 |
| Myrtti | foobarry: as I said, if you configure it enough you can make it sing | 15:12 |
| awilkins | Didn't look bad but the sysadmin won in terms of prettiness | 15:12 |
| awilkins | And having a contents index | 15:13 |
| foobarry | the posters i see are hideous, probably because they are made by scientists | 15:13 |
| awilkins | Using LyX | 15:13 |
| Myrtti | awilkins: remind me to make a censored version of the source and pdf and to show it to you | 15:13 |
| awilkins | Myrtti, Looking at that latex app for Google Docs now. It's shiny. | 15:15 |
| Myrtti | is the Amazon Lightning Deal Aquatouch shaver any good? | 15:20 |
| Myrtti | http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B004XIBAT0/ this one | 15:22 |
| davmor2 | Myrtti: it'll work as well as any other phillips shaver I would image, does that help at all? | 15:24 |
| Myrtti | I suppose | 15:25 |
| Myrtti | I think I'll order it | 15:25 |
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| === lubotu3` is now known as lubotu3 | ||
| foobarry | they philips shavers chew my face | 15:35 |
| foobarry | YMMV | 15:35 |
| foobarry | bought one and couldn't use it | 15:35 |
| Myrtti | he already uses one *shrug* | 15:37 |
| foobarry | at what filesize does sqlite become unrealistic for use? | 15:38 |
| daftykins | what an incredibly unlikely amazon link http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00KFAGCUM/ | 15:39 |
| foobarry | spoke to a bloke and got really good pre-sale service. then i realised a place near me has it and for £50 cheaper (free shipping). feel bad now | 15:40 |
| awilkins | foobarry, The absolute max is 140TB | 15:41 |
| foobarry | currently reading http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3630/sqlite-vs-mysql | 15:41 |
| awilkins | foobarry, The limits for sqlite are more likely to do with wanting concurrent access, than data size | 15:42 |
| foobarry | basically i have a large flat file of 1.3G that needs dumping to db for better querying | 15:42 |
| awilkins | daftykins, Wow, they got big fast | 15:42 |
| foobarry | so if my queries got done "offline" rather than dynamically done upon user request then should be fine | 15:43 |
| awilkins | 512GB for £150 ... paid £120 for 64GB a few years ago | 15:43 |
| awilkins | foobarry, 1.3GB should be fine for that sort of thing... if anything, sqlite has lower overheads than a traditional CLient / Server database | 15:44 |
| foobarry | it seems so, especially for read-heavy queries | 15:51 |
| DJones | Aaaaarrrrrgggghhhhh!!!!!!!! Will anybody swap elbows, while a cortisone injection settles down for the next few days | 16:19 |
| daftykins | hahaha, what do they feel like? | 16:19 |
| DJones | Nasty | 16:20 |
| DJones | Injection doesn't hurt, but the next 3-4 days will be agony | 16:20 |
| DJones | Little to no use of the arm | 16:20 |
| daftykins | hah | 16:21 |
| daftykins | i've already had that since my bike accident :> | 16:21 |
| daftykins | it can be a pretty trying time | 16:22 |
| DJones | Yep, had one 6 months ago that worked for a while, 2nd one now, its just the constant ache that bugs me | 16:23 |
| DJones | Ooh, nice, Bladerunner sequel being made | 16:23 |
| bigcalm | Hi peeps :) | 16:29 |
| bigcalm | My ubuntu desktop is failing to load. After logging in via lightdm, the background updates but Unity doesn't load. | 16:29 |
| bigcalm | In case it was a Unity issue, I installed kubuntu-desktop. Rebooted, selected KDE from lightdm and logged in. The background changes to black and nothing else gets loaded | 16:30 |
| awilkins | Does it do that for a new user profile? | 16:30 |
| bigcalm | In both instances, the mouse pointer can be moved around the screen but it doesn't interact with anything | 16:30 |
| bigcalm | Also, ctrl+alt+t doesn't bring up a terminal | 16:30 |
| bigcalm | I think I checked that, but I'll check again | 16:31 |
| bigcalm | Yes, I selected the guest session and the same thing happens | 16:31 |
| mapps | hello | 16:47 |
| DJones | Is it me you're looking for | 16:52 |
| mapps | raining again | 16:57 |
| mapps | :( | 16:57 |
| daftykins | XD | 16:57 |
| daftykins | DJones: +1 for that | 16:58 |
| mapps | its raining but warm but still feel stupid wearing shorts | 16:58 |
| mapps | :D | 16:58 |
| mapps | hate getting soggy jeans tho | 16:58 |
| mapps | booked a flight to heathrow on BA and it says i get 23kilo in hold 1 bag carry on + laptop bag..thats pretty good..the other airlines say laptop bag counts as carry on iirc so i always chuck it in my bag | 16:59 |
| mapps | :) | 16:59 |
| shauno | meh, ryanair let you take a laptop bag now :p | 17:00 |
| mapps | ah now | 17:00 |
| mapps | thats good | 17:00 |
| mapps | im always almost near my max allowances | 17:02 |
| mapps | but then i do take 2 laptops and a tablet in my carry on | 17:02 |
| mapps | is it possible to turn up at an airport and say youll go ANYWHERE and get chreap tickets? ive heard people claim it is..but dont necessarily believe it - every flighrt ive been on has been full | 17:03 |
| awilkins | Maybe it's possible if you're ok waiting | 17:07 |
| awilkins | They are always super dead keen to put bums on all the seats | 17:07 |
| awilkins | They upgraded me and a pal to "economy plus" (the plus is 2 inches more legroom - well worth the extra money for a 10 hours flight) | 17:07 |
| mapps | im off 8th-13th december and wanna go somewhere | 17:08 |
| mapps | dont care where | 17:08 |
| awilkins | I imagine on a big plane the statistical likelyhood of a no-show is pretty high | 17:08 |
| mapps | like we considered estapona then on to marbella then malaga and grandad all easy for us | 17:08 |
| mapps | but id go anywhere poland..italy whatever..aslong as return isnt 10x more | 17:08 |
| mapps | my flight to Latvia 32gbp return 150 LOL and this was in advance | 17:08 |
| m0nkey_ | domestic, standby is doable. european (one stop), can be done. International, forget it. | 17:08 |
| daftykins | hrmm got a chap with a Toshiba based on an AMD E1-1200 APU that's being really awkward to boot | 17:43 |
| daftykins | i've had to revert to suggesting a mini.iso install, just doesn't get anywhere either in EFI or legacy boot with a 64-bit desktop ISO | 17:43 |
| shauno | hm. you know a script's going wrong when you download an 8Mb file that contains only commas. | 18:01 |
| daftykins | shauno: :D | 18:03 |
| daftykins | shauno: comma comma comma chameleon | 18:04 |
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| shauno | :| | 18:05 |
| shauno | you've been spending too much time with Dan lol | 18:05 |
| shauno | hm. I wonder if I can sneak that in there. "if I have 8 million null values, print 'chameleon'" | 18:07 |
| shauno | I think I'm doing this wrong. rearranging an array shouldn't peg an i7 for 30 seconds | 18:15 |
| daftykins | crikey, i would hope not | 18:20 |
| daftykins | what on earth would prevent GRUB install from working 0o | 18:21 |
| daftykins | ah, that'd be it - the hard disk is /dev/sdb | 18:32 |
| daftykins | go go gadget grub-installer from busybox | 18:33 |
| daftykins | if transplanting a laptop's hard disk into a desktop, can it be slaved to the current OS and GRUB installed do it with "grub-install /dev/sdx" easily enough? | 18:52 |
| daftykins | s/do it/to it/ | 18:52 |
| diddledan | yawn | 19:08 |
| diddledan | so I missed daylight | 19:08 |
| daftykins | diddledan: :O! | 19:08 |
| daftykins | yeah i got that way a while back :( it's not good | 19:09 |
| daftykins | diddledan: are you any good with GRUB installs? :D | 19:09 |
| diddledan | so, I can now tell you what the press release was that I mentioned last night | 19:09 |
| daftykins | yay! | 19:09 |
| diddledan | http://www.justiceinspectorates.gov.uk/hmic/ | 19:09 |
| diddledan | it's the "how well is your police force doing" stuff | 19:10 |
| DJones | diddledan: Not very well I'd say, walked the dog last night, copper in patrol on his to a crime stopped after driving round our entire estate and asked me how to get to the supposed crime scene | 19:19 |
| DJones | in patrol car | 19:20 |
| daftykins | uh-oh | 19:21 |
| diddledan | DJones, I only do the website :-p | 19:22 |
| DJones | You could say that, could job the crime he said he was going to was only kids smoking dope and not an in progress murder | 19:22 |
| daftykins | :D | 19:23 |
| diddledan | 1 hour ago on the ubuntu touch mailing list: " image #10 is considered to be our 'Gold Master' image. | 19:34 |
| diddledan | " | 19:34 |
| diddledan | actually 2 hours nearly - gmail sucks at times | 19:35 |
| diddledan | http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/11/26/earth-wrapped-in-star-trek-force-fields_n_6227676.html | 19:40 |
| daftykins | is it still worth installing "ubuntu-desktop^" if i've got someone to do a mini install? | 19:43 |
| daftykins | or does the ^ not matter? | 19:43 |
| daftykins | i remember popey mentioning it | 19:43 |
| daftykins | this is 14.04.1 | 19:43 |
| diddledan | looks like our infrastructure held up today for the hmic site - peaked at about 2000req/min | 19:58 |
| diddledan | that was between 10 and 12 | 19:58 |
| diddledan | we're still averaging around 250-500 req/min now | 19:59 |
| daftykins | :> | 20:00 |
| mapps | this film the maze runner is coo | 20:13 |
| mapps | five fruits bulmers hm never had that before | 20:14 |
| mapps | are you allowed to bring spirits in hold luggae? was gonna bring 2 bottles of woods rum for my dad like 6 quid here 25 quid for 70cl in uk | 20:15 |
| mapps | £6.50 here | 20:15 |
| mapps | also it says you can only take 1 bottle of spirits and 400 cigs...if i took more with me and they searched my case or whatever what happens? i get it confiscated..i get a fine? or can i just pay the tax and keep it? not even sure what the tax would be | 20:16 |
| mapps | unsure of how it all works..and do the airport people care if i have 2 bottles in my hand luggage yet only allowed 1? or is it only at UK end id have prblems? | 20:17 |
| daftykins | maze runner 0o | 20:18 |
| daftykins | that reminds me | 20:18 |
| daftykins | hear the good news? | 20:18 |
| daftykins | Blade Runner sequel! | 20:18 |
| mapps | nice | 20:19 |
| mapps | yea its cool daftykins im 51mins in got an hour left | 20:19 |
| mapps | any idea about my flight qs? | 20:19 |
| mapps | would the staff at gib airport care? | 20:19 |
| mapps | or would it just be UK end i may get hassle | 20:19 |
| daftykins | oh didn't see that | 20:19 |
| mapps | im not sure how it all works would gib just let me fly with whatever as they dont care or does the airport you fly from enforce the destination country rules | 20:20 |
| daftykins | never bought duty free or alc i'm afraid | 20:20 |
| daftykins | i'm a good boy | 20:20 |
| mapps | its 6.50 a bottle!! so cheap | 20:20 |
| mapps | £6 a litre of stoli | 20:20 |
| mapps | i might just buy like 5 bottles and chance it | 20:20 |
| mapps | worst case scenario i lose a few quid i think | 20:21 |
| daftykins | ;] | 20:22 |
| diddledan | I feel saddened: http://www.newser.com/story/199159/plug-pulled-on-worlds-2nd-most-watched-clock.html | 20:24 |
| awilkins | £6 for a litre of stoli is good | 20:25 |
| shauno | mapps: the allowance for spirits is only 1litre | 20:33 |
| shauno | if they catch you over that, you pay %*£28.22 + VAT | 20:33 |
| mapps | what that mean | 20:33 |
| mapps | % 20.22? | 20:34 |
| shauno | the excise is 28.22 per litre of actual alcohol | 20:34 |
| shauno | so, eg, if you have one litre of 40% spirit, you have 0.4 litres, so you pay 0.4*28.22 | 20:34 |
| mapps | hm | 20:34 |
| shauno | (plus VAT afterwards heh) | 20:35 |
| mapps | so thatd be 11 quid and what would vat be? | 20:35 |
| mapps | but what about what i asked re the departure airport..would they care if there's 2 bottles in my hand luggage when its scanned | 20:36 |
| mapps | or would they just wave it through | 20:36 |
| shauno | I actually have no idea how they figure the vat. logically it'd be what you paid (purchase+excise) * 20%, but .. I've no idea how they'd figure out what you paid originally | 20:36 |
| shauno | I don't think the departing airport tend to care. as long as it's not liable to explode, it's not their problem | 20:37 |
| mapps | yea | 20:37 |
| mapps | jhm cant do what i planned either buy 2 bottles morrisons 1 hand and 1 in hold..cant have any liquids . 100ml in hand of course | 20:38 |
| mapps | and if i have them in the hold 100% theyd know when its scanned on arrival at heathrow? | 20:39 |
| shauno | no idea about that bit. technically you declare it at customs ;) | 20:39 |
| shauno | (and you can have more than 100ml in your carry-on. you just can't take more than 100ml through security. if you buy it after that, it's clear) | 20:40 |
| mapps | iyou do? i thought they just see it when its scanned and automaticxaLLY bug you | 20:40 |
| mapps | if the departing airport let you buy over 1 litre and you put it in hand luggage surely the arrivla airport wouldnt know? ------ they dont check hand lkuggage on landing? | 20:40 |
| TheBlackRussian | How can i write Russian in LibreOffice Writer? It wont allow me to copy and paste russian words in | 20:41 |
| shauno | I honestly have no idea how they 'catch' you. I tend to run out of suitcase long before I have to worry about that :) | 20:41 |
| mapps | hm not sure TheBlackRussian set it to UTF8? is that maybe why | 20:41 |
| TheBlackRussian | how can i do that? | 20:41 |
| daftykins | TheBlackRussian: go ask your Russian friends in #ubuntu-ru | 20:42 |
| daftykins | shockingly none of us write Russian very often | 20:42 |
| mapps | heh | 20:42 |
| TheBlackRussian | Im not asking you to write in russian, im ask you how CAN I WRITE RUSSIAN in libreoffice | 20:43 |
| diddledan | we don't know because we've never done it | 20:43 |
| daftykins | ^ | 20:43 |
| mapps | http://extensions.libreoffice.org/extension-center/russian-dictionary-pack | 20:43 |
| mapps | check site | 20:43 |
| mapps | it oibv supports russian | 20:44 |
| daftykins | TheBlackRussian: i understood you the first time and my statement still stands | 20:44 |
| daftykins | TheBlackRussian: maybe i should go ask how to write chinese in #ubuntu-fr ? | 20:44 |
| daftykins | similar goal. | 20:44 |
| shauno | I'd suspect libreoffice-l10n-ru - office productivity suite -- Russian language package | 20:44 |
| shauno | but that's guesswork | 20:44 |
| shauno | well, grepwork | 20:45 |
| * diddledan greps shauno | 20:45 | |
| daftykins | no hits | 20:45 |
| * shauno awks | 20:45 | |
| TheBlackRussian | well, if you want to write something in a language and you cant i would expect one to come here seeking for support. The person doesnt want to chinese here but want to find a solution to the problem | 20:45 |
| shauno | hm, really? I just assumed it'd be the same thing in debian. sorry :) | 20:45 |
| zmoylan-pi | that's what he sed :-P | 20:45 |
| diddledan | TheBlackRussian, this is #ubuntu-uk - the hint is we're british | 20:46 |
| daftykins | TheBlackRussian: this is a damned -UK channel | 20:46 |
| daftykins | TheBlackRussian: you need to start using the MAIN support channel, #ubuntu | 20:46 |
| diddledan | we really need to fix this issue | 20:46 |
| * daftykins hands diddledan the rope | 20:46 | |
| shauno | TheBlackRussian: no-one's trying to be rude, just that -uk isn't the ideal place for that. the british are famously monolingual, so we lack any experience with the issue. you might want to try #ubuntu proper, or #ubuntu-ru for people who'd have experience with cyrilic-specifics | 20:46 |
| * diddledan makes a noose | 20:47 | |
| diddledan | how is that word even supposed to be spelt? | 20:47 |
| TheBlackRussian | the last time i checked the uk it was full of poles and asians! | 20:47 |
| mapps | ;] | 20:47 |
| shauno | probably not like that. but as an aside, I challenge anyone to say cyrilic-specific ten times fast ;) | 20:47 |
| diddledan | TheBlackRussian, but they don't consider themselves british, so they don't hang around in british places | 20:47 |
| mapps | yea | 20:48 |
| TheBlackRussian | Do you live in London? | 20:48 |
| mapps | nie | 20:48 |
| diddledan | nope | 20:48 |
| diddledan | do you? | 20:48 |
| TheBlackRussian | yes | 20:48 |
| diddledan | well twist my nipple nuts and call me susan! | 20:49 |
| diddledan | that surprised me | 20:49 |
| TheBlackRussian | My point is, try taking a bus in london. Its full of the poles and asians | 20:49 |
| mapps | thats true | 20:49 |
| TheBlackRussian | to be honest with you i dont think a british is on a bus most of the time. | 20:49 |
| TheBlackRussian | i only see them in rush hour. Other than that its impossible to find a white british on a bus | 20:50 |
| diddledan | but anyway, we're trying to help you get the best help you can for your issue - as you're trying to write in russian the best places to find specific help on that issue are #ubuntu-ru and #ubuntu | 20:50 |
| mapps | TheBlackRussian, ave a look at what shauno said | 20:50 |
| daftykins | TheBlackRussian: enough, go to the relevant channels. | 20:50 |
| TheBlackRussian | im going to ignore you dafty for a while since its had been clearly shown i have owned your arse in that agrument. | 20:51 |
| TheBlackRussian | Where is the tool bar in libra | 20:52 |
| diddledan | wb mapps | 20:53 |
| diddledan | map | 20:53 |
| daftykins | i cannot stand this delinquent | 20:53 |
| TheBlackRussian | a delinquent? i have yet to committed anything | 20:54 |
| intrbiz | except for casual racism | 20:55 |
| daftykins | TheBlackRussian: do you forget how much i helped you, only for you to give me attitude and no word of thanks - i tell you where to ask questions for better support and yet you still sit here wasting our time | 20:56 |
| diddledan | http://t.co/ZXHAUccHpr | 20:56 |
| daftykins | you are not worthy of assistance. | 20:56 |
| diddledan | cute | 20:56 |
| shauno | can we just ignore it and see if it goes away? | 20:56 |
| TheBlackRussian | the thing is, a. i was a bit drunk. and b i dont want to go to the ru verison when i can speak prefect english | 20:56 |
| daftykins | shauno: *nod* | 20:57 |
| intrbiz | TheBlackRussian: on a serious note, I think you need too look at the input frameworks, like ibus or scim | 20:57 |
| intrbiz | but most of us here will never have used stuff like that | 20:57 |
| TheBlackRussian | mapps solved the issue | 20:58 |
| TheBlackRussian | or maybe not | 20:59 |
| map | see what intrbiz said TheBlackRussian | 21:00 |
| TheBlackRussian | i just go on window 7 and do it from office... | 21:01 |
| diddledan | >.< | 21:01 |
| diddledan | msoffice is not the solution. the solution is to ask someone who can help - we can't. | 21:01 |
| intrbiz | TheBlackRussian: Have a look in system preferences, keyboard, layouts | 21:02 |
| intrbiz | TheBlackRussian: I suspect you need to add a Russian keyboard layout and configure a key to toggle between | 21:02 |
| diddledan | in related question. is msoffice _ever_ the solution to anything? | 21:02 |
| directhex | yes. | 21:02 |
| shauno | yes. excel>* | 21:02 |
| diddledan | aah | 21:02 |
| shauno | there is no finer torture implement I'm afraid. | 21:03 |
| directhex | msoffice is the right solution if you already have a lot of institutional msoffice use - macros, training, etc | 21:03 |
| intrbiz | Is suspect Google will be more help with switching keyboard layouts than us lot. | 21:03 |
| directhex | can be cheaper than retraining | 21:03 |
| intrbiz | TBH, not used MS officer for years now | 21:03 |
| intrbiz | but then I rarely use office programs it seems | 21:03 |
| diddledan | intrbiz, I don't seem to use office suites very much either | 21:04 |
| diddledan | I need to keep them about becuase people send me screenshots inside an msword document | 21:04 |
| TheBlackRussian | How can i remove ubuntu? | 21:04 |
| intrbiz | I seem to use plain text / mark down more and more these days | 21:05 |
| TheBlackRussian | made up my mind, i want ubuntu gone | 21:05 |
| intrbiz | TheBlackRussian: I suggest you ask that somewhere else | 21:05 |
| TheBlackRussian | its useless and is driving me nuts. You cant do basic things on it | 21:05 |
| daftykins | troll shows its' colours more and more. | 21:05 |
| TheBlackRussian | im not a troll, not sick and tried of using a os | 21:05 |
| TheBlackRussian | which is not for me | 21:05 |
| diddledan | webchat, too | 21:06 |
| diddledan | driveby mormon | 21:06 |
| intrbiz | what an <insert favourite expletive> | 21:06 |
| diddledan | intrbiz, you did well not to say that while he was here :-p | 21:07 |
| intrbiz | diddledan: yeh, might have been thinking it, I couldn't work out if it was sarcasm lost over IM, or just a bit of an arse | 21:08 |
| daftykins | my favourite bit was being called German last time after helping for hours | 21:08 |
| diddledan | daftykins, lol. that's somewhat random. | 21:09 |
| intrbiz | daftykins: in a good way? | 21:09 |
| daftykins | nah, it was an attempt at an insult out of nowhere 0o | 21:11 |
| diddledan | https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/10616268_981684045185940_203971364100268727_n.jpg?oh=56a3272b20b643873749cdecd1ca77cb&oe=5517E989&__gda__=1423308535_13aad614b7966c11c9ed0ea3f26d042e | 21:11 |
| daftykins | i'm not German but i wouldn't find it a problem :( | 21:11 |
| diddledan | that's a fun url | 21:11 |
| diddledan | facebook, Y U DO DIS! | 21:11 |
| intrbiz | daftykins: right, seems a strange insult | 21:12 |
| shauno | I'm so confused. germans are bad at pasting russian? | 21:18 |
| intrbiz | shauno: huh? | 21:18 |
| shauno | exactly | 21:18 |
| map | hm | 22:02 |
| map | if i stay here flights to ibz are only 60 quid..so cheap | 22:02 |
| daftykins | i thought that was a 90s thing :D | 22:07 |
| map | i just wanna go everywhere...may aswell | 22:07 |
| shauno | ibiza isn't really 'everywhere' .. it's just drinking in a different spanish bar :p | 22:08 |
| map | ;] | 22:10 |
| nathanm | hi | 22:19 |
| nathanm | can u answer a quetion | 22:20 |
| intrbiz | helps if you tell us the question first | 22:20 |
| nathanm | what does ls | grep D mean | 22:21 |
| intrbiz | it means: execute 'ls' pipe it to 'grep' and look for the string 'D' | 22:21 |
| intrbiz | the | character will redirect the output of a program to the input of another program | 22:22 |
| intrbiz | the ls program will list files | 22:22 |
| nathanm | what does ls > list mean and ls >> list | 22:22 |
| intrbiz | the grep program will search the input with a regex | 22:22 |
| nathanm | how do you create a new directory | 22:23 |
| intrbiz | the > and >> will redirect the program output to a file, the >> means append > means overwite | 22:23 |
| intrbiz | nathanm: mkdir | 22:23 |
| intrbiz | mkdir directory_name | 22:23 |
| intrbiz | or mkdir /full/path/to/directory_name | 22:23 |
| nathanm | how do you create a text file in terminal | 22:24 |
| intrbiz | vim /path/to/file | 22:25 |
| intrbiz | will open the vim editor to edit (or create) a file | 22:25 |
| nathanm | thanks for your help much appriciated :) | 22:25 |
| intrbiz | nathanm: there are plenty of good tutorials on line for the Linux CLI / Bash | 22:26 |
| map | have to remember to get an extension socket thing soon | 22:56 |
| map | have to unplug one laptop to use other | 22:56 |
| map | :D | 22:56 |
| map | well ok i can use both..but battery doesnt last forever ;[ | 22:56 |
| directhex | if anyone cares, xbone plus AC5 plus AC4 will be ~cheap on amazon in 15 mins | 23:46 |
| directhex | ps4 with driveclub 30 mins later | 23:53 |
| diddledan | just finished watching "the code" - was good | 23:55 |
| diddledan | 6 hour-long eps | 23:55 |
| diddledan | I don't get paid until around 2-4pm tomorrow tho | 23:56 |
| diddledan | damned amazon | 23:56 |
| diddledan | :-p | 23:56 |
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