[05:25] <Squirm> morning all
[05:40] <64MAA69OF> More almal
[05:40] <64MAA69OF> ag neeeeeee
[07:20] <Kilos> sjoe power just returned after last nights storm and 34mm rain so yay
[07:21] <Kilos> morning inetpro and others
[07:26] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy 
[07:26] <ThatGraemeGuy> morning
[07:30] <Kilos> hi TinuvaMac 
[07:50] <TinuvaMac> good morning Kilos
[08:49] <somaunn> Hello
[08:49] <somaunn> hi Kilos
[08:50] <Kilos> hi somaunn 
[09:22] <Kilos> hi gremble 
[09:22] <Kilos> was it you wanted to know the cost of lpi exam?
[09:23] <gremble> Ya. It is quite expensive
[09:23] <Kilos> ya
[09:35] <somaunn> gremble: why don't you go for UCP exam
[09:35] <somaunn> should be less expensive
[09:37] <somaunn> talking irc, what is DCC ?
[09:48] <Kilos> direct chat
[09:48] <Kilos> pc to pc as far as i know
[09:48] <Kilos> Maaz: define DCC
[09:48] <Maaz> Kilos: DCC Data Communications Computer , DCC Data Country Code (ATM) , DCC Desktop Control Center (Intel) , DCC Direct Client to Client (IRC) , DCC Digital Content Creation , DCC Display Combination Code , DCC DOS Command Center
[09:50] <Kilos> DCC Direct Client to Client (IRC)
[10:07] <ThatGraemeGuy> DCC uses the irc network to set up a direct connection between 2 clients, for chat or more typically for file transfer
[10:07] <ThatGraemeGuy> that was how you built your mp3 collection back in the days before napster and the p2p file sharing explosion
[13:42] <Kilos> hmm...
[13:44] <ThatGraemeGuy> ah I see its hmmm o'clock at Kilos' house again :)
[13:44] <Kilos> rofl
[13:44] <Kilos> ive just fetched the sheep from the veld
[13:45] <Kilos> weather looks good for more rain
[13:45] <Kilos> and hopefully no power off this time
[14:20] <Squirm> 'lo again
[14:21] <ThatGraemeGuy> g'day
[14:21] <Squirm> Cape Town's Festival of Beer this weekend
[14:21] <Squirm> will see you there ThatGraemeGuy ;)
[14:21] <ThatGraemeGuy> i wish
[14:22] <ThatGraemeGuy> festival of bacon on saturday too
[14:22] <ThatGraemeGuy> missing out big time
[14:22] <Squirm> what? where?
[14:22] <Squirm> I'm working at the Beer Fest on Sunday, free entrance :P
[14:22] <ThatGraemeGuy> http://www.baconfestsa.co.za/
[14:23] <ThatGraemeGuy> nice one, enjoy :)
[14:23] <ThatGraemeGuy> my daughter has a dancing thingy on saturday morning, and our year-end function is on saturday evening
[14:23] <ThatGraemeGuy> sunday is sleepday
[14:23] <Squirm> Ours is also Saturday evening
[14:24] <ThatGraemeGuy> oh, where?
[14:24] <Squirm> That's why I'm working Sunday
[14:24] <Squirm> Somewhere in Bergvliet
[14:24]  * Squirm shrugs
[14:24] <ThatGraemeGuy> ah ok
[14:24] <Squirm> I think it's Bergvliet
[14:24] <ThatGraemeGuy> ours at the V&A D-:
[14:25] <ThatGraemeGuy> my insurance has a cool thing where thet will drive you home in your car if you drink too much
[14:25] <ThatGraemeGuy> its about time i start using that
[14:25] <Squirm> I've heard about that
[14:25] <Squirm> who do you insure with?
[14:25] <ThatGraemeGuy> santam
[14:26] <Squirm> Ah, I know I get a discount pm if I use a specific company with OutSurance
[14:26] <Squirm> but I have to pay pm
[14:26] <ThatGraemeGuy> you should speak to my insurance broker, she's managed to save everyone I've referred to her over the years
[14:27] <ThatGraemeGuy> still won't give me a discount though :'-(
[14:32] <Squirm> lol
[14:32] <Squirm> chat to you all tomorrow. Home time
[14:48] <Kilos> lol
[15:14] <Kilos> sjoe good connection agan gremble 
[15:14] <Kilos> again
[15:15] <Kilos> dont grumble just fix it
[15:18] <gremble> My friend on mweb is also suffering from intermittend connection issues
[15:19] <gremble> So I suspect that it is from them
[15:19] <gremble> Can't do much on my side about that
[15:19] <Kilos> call them and complain
[15:20] <Kilos> actually find them on twitter and complain there then they fix it quick because everyone can see their connection sucks
[15:21] <Kilos> Maaz: google mweb on twitter
[15:21] <Maaz> Kilos: "MWEB (@MWEBConnect) | Twitter" https://twitter.com/mwebconnect :: "MWEB GameZone Team (@MWEBGMZ) | Twitter" https://twitter.com/mwebgmz :: "MWEB Help (@MWEBHelp) | Twitter" https://twitter.com/mwebhelp :: "Mike Weber (@mweb) | Twitter" https://twitter.com/mweb :: "MWEB Tweet Seat (@MWEBTweetSeat) | Twitter" https://twitter.com/mwebtweetseat :: "MWEB down?
[15:21] <Maaz> Current problems, issues and outages | Down Detector" https://downdetector.co.za/status/mw…
[17:18] <Kilos> hi Tonberry superfly 
[17:18] <Kilos> and inetpro 
[17:25] <Tonberry> hi
[18:23] <Kilos> hi Joe_knock 
[18:23] <Joe_knock> Hey there oom Kilos 
[18:26] <Kilos> we need to get everyone here again and see who will be contact person
[18:26] <Kilos> monkey cant do it anymore
[18:26] <Kilos> health reasons i think
[18:27] <Kilos> superfly: inetpro comments?
[18:28] <superfly> i don't really have the time
[18:32] <Kilos> oh i know that superfly i just wanted your opinion, should i ask maia to do it for the next 2 years
[18:33] <Kilos> if i say pretty please she might
[18:37] <Kilos> evening ThatGraemeGuy 
[18:37] <Kilos> standby?
[18:37] <gremble> What is required of a contact person?
[18:37] <gremble> Hmm nevermind
[18:38] <ThatGraemeGuy> no, I just seem to have useable MTN 3G for the first time in ages so I'm taking advantage while it lasts
[18:38] <gremble> I don't think I should do it
[18:39] <ThatGraemeGuy> solid 50ms ping and 1.5M down, this is pretty much unheard of for me at home
[18:40] <Kilos> gremble
[18:41] <Joe_knock> I'm tempted to volunteer, but I don't think I can commit time in December
[18:41] <Kilos> we need someone reliable, its basically to be the direct contact to canonical, and when dvds arrive fetch them from customs and then distribute
[18:41] <gremble> ThatGraemeGuy: that is unheard of in general :P
[18:41] <Joe_knock> "and when dvds arrive fetch them from customs and then distribute" now that is the tough part
[18:41] <Kilos> ya thats the only hard part
[18:42] <Kilos> so whats sick ThatGraemeGuy ?
[18:43] <Kilos> mtr and look for the weak links
[18:43] <Kilos> oh its wifi now hey
[18:43] <Kilos> misty out there?
[18:50] <ThatGraemeGuy> no 3G not wifi
[18:51] <Kilos> sorry i just read what you said earlier. i missed it earlier
[18:52] <Joe_knock> Doesn't 3G and wifi run in a similar frequency band?
[18:54] <captine> evening all
[18:54] <Kilos> hi captine 
[18:54] <ThatGraemeGuy> spoke too soon, gone down the toilet again
[18:54] <Kilos> ai!
[18:54] <ThatGraemeGuy> Joe_knock: nope
[18:55] <ThatGraemeGuy> wifi is 2.4GHz and 5.8GHz, 3G is a bunch of others
[18:55] <Joe_knock> ThatGraemeGuy: If your house is double-story, try sitting on the second story near a window
[18:55] <Kilos> wifi is 2.4 and 5g
[18:55] <ThatGraemeGuy> 800MHz, 900MHz, 2100MHz, etc
[18:55] <Kilos> 3g in the 900 meg band
[18:55] <ThatGraemeGuy> Joe_knock: i'm on the bad side of a hill
[18:56] <Kilos> oh my you fast ThatGraemeGuy 
[18:56] <ThatGraemeGuy> i'm on the edge of the urban area just beyond me is farmland
[18:56] <Joe_knock> aah so 3G is 2100, but it is MHz, whilst wifi is 2.4 GHz (= 2400MHz? )
[18:57] <ThatGraemeGuy> yeah
[18:57] <ThatGraemeGuy> and not only 2100, there's a whole list
[18:57] <ThatGraemeGuy> i think cell c uses 900MHz
[18:57] <ThatGraemeGuy> which is likely why i have better cell c reception
[18:58] <Joe_knock> I thought part of the 900 MHz wasn't available to cell providers as ICASA wanted to give it to new players
[18:59] <ThatGraemeGuy> ok
[18:59] <ThatGraemeGuy> whatever, the point is the question was isn't 3G the same frequencies as wifi and the answer is no
[18:59] <Joe_knock> correct
[19:13] <Kilos> Maaz: coffee on
[19:13]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[19:13] <Kilos> Maaz: coffee for all
[19:13] <Maaz> Come on ya buncha geeks. Rock up with your mugs with the correct amount of sugar added already
[19:14] <Kilos> Joe_knock: you using ubuntu?
[19:14] <Kilos> 64bit?
[19:14] <Joe_knock> Kilos: 32-bit Xubuntu
[19:15] <Kilos> can you look in synaptic if ibid is there please
[19:17] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[19:17] <Kilos> Maaz: ty
[19:17] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[19:18] <Joe_knock> ibid ?
[19:19] <Kilos> python bot
[19:19] <Kilos> used to be in repos
[19:19] <Joe_knock> Ibid: "Easily extensible Python IM bot for IRC, Jabber, SILC, campfire, etc."
[19:20] <Joe_knock> It's in the Ubuntu Software centre
[19:20] <Joe_knock> *Center
[19:22] <Kilos> maybe i did something wrong here i installed a daily build one and it dont work and thats what i see in synaptic, so i dont know if it doesnt work on 64bit
[19:22] <Kilos> np will look around ty
[19:27] <Joe_knock> oom hoe het jy die daily build install?
[19:27] <Joe_knock> a 32-bit build *could* work in a 64-bit machine
[19:32] <Kilos> i installed it with the kde installer
[19:33] <Kilos> just click on it and it installs
[19:33] <Kilos> only when i run it i get an error in some keyword
[19:33] <Kilos> but purged now
[19:33] <Kilos> will try again tomorrow
[19:36] <Kilos> ami i mailed maia and asked her if she can stay on as contact person
[19:37] <Kilos> so all you guys hold thumbs with me
[19:37] <Kilos> i go sleep now
[19:37] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight