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| Dino | hi friends | 04:10 |
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| === Dino is now known as Guest23154 | ||
| Guest23154 | i have an issue | 04:11 |
| Guest23154 | I have an Acer netbook with lubuntu installed, and a huawei datacard - E-8131, the internet is slow - Help please | 04:13 |
| Guest23154 | I have an Acer netbook with lubuntu installed, and a huawei datacard - E-8131, the internet is slow - Help please | 04:20 |
| holstein | Guest23154: if they dont support linux, it may not work well.. i would try and test the card in a supported operating system.. | 04:25 |
| holstein | make sure that it works | 04:25 |
| Guest23154 | I had tried in chromium os - was working fine | 04:26 |
| Guest23154 | The thing is I want to use as a desktop environment and not in cloud, thats why I switched to lubuntu | 04:28 |
| kingchipo | Hello everyone! Trying to get my broadcome wireless driver working properly. I've managed to connect to my wireless but the connection is extremely slow. Could use some assistance with this problem if at all possible | 04:58 |
| kingchipo | dmesg | grep b43 displays several errors.. ERROR: PHY transmission error, as well as: warning: unexpected value for chanstat (0x7c00) | 05:00 |
| kingchipo | Additionally I've reinstalled the firmware multiple times | 05:01 |
| kingchipo | Any assistance would be awesome! ill standby | 05:02 |
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| ianorlin | hmm not sure of that error message try lspci -vvn |grep 14e4 | 05:09 |
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| kingchipo | The command returns 14e4:4320 | 05:11 |
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| kingchipo | rev 02 | 05:11 |
| meek_ | Hello all | 05:13 |
| kingchipo | o/ | 05:14 |
| kingchipo | err i should say it returned : 00:09.0 0290: 14e4:4320 (rev 02) | 05:14 |
| ianorlin | should proably give more contex with lspci -vvn |grep -C 10 14e4 | 05:16 |
| meek_ | I have lubuntu installed Acer netbook, and connecting internet with a Huawei E8131 datacard, but the connection is slow | 05:16 |
| meek_ | Some help would be nice | 05:17 |
| holstein | meek_: sure.. and you should ask Huawei for help.. but, as far as for lubuntu support, please try the device in a supported operating system to make sure its functioning properly | 05:39 |
| holstein | meek_: then, i would try a few linux live CD's.. ubuntu 12.04, 14.04.. 14.10.. anything to get a different kernel | 05:39 |
| meek_ | But it works fine with Chromium OS, AFAIK its also linux based | 05:49 |
| meek_ | Maybe I am asking for too much, anyways @holstein thanks | 05:50 |
| holstein | meek_: then, you are not having an issue with the card | 05:52 |
| holstein | meek_: oh.. you mean, chromiumOS.. not the chromium browser | 05:52 |
| holstein | meek_: thats why i suggested trying other live CD's with differnt kernels | 05:53 |
| meek_ | not browser, chromium OS | 05:53 |
| holstein | meek_: in linux, the kernel has the drivers "baked in" basically, so, a different kernel can support the hardware, while an older one wont, or a newer one might have a regression, or have to drop support | 05:53 |
| holstein | meek_: so, you can boot up "chromiumOS" and look at the kernel, and match that as much as possible from an ubuntu version.. | 05:54 |
| meek_ | sure @holstein but can you also tell me 'How to' find kernel version | 05:55 |
| holstein | meek_: in most linux distros, you can open a terminal and run "uname -a" | 05:56 |
| holstein | meek_: i dont use chromium OS.. and it may be different.. | 05:56 |
| meek_ | fine I will check these suggestions and will get back if required | 05:56 |
| meek_ | thanks @holstein, have a nice day :) | 05:57 |
| kingchipo | *pulls out hair | 05:58 |
| kingchipo | I dont want windows xp X ( | 05:59 |
| holstein | kingchipo: you really shouldnt use it.. its EOL | 05:59 |
| kingchipo | Haha, well im trying to put lubuntu on this piece of shit my dad uses | 06:00 |
| kingchipo | Wireless card refuses to work | 06:00 |
| holstein | these days, hardware like that is quite reasonable | 06:00 |
| holstein | i just swap out to hardware that supports the operating system i want to use | 06:00 |
| holstein | you can try using the windows driver with ndiswrapper.. but, anything im leaving with a family member has to be bulletproof.. | 06:01 |
| kingchipo | haha, yeah just broke college student atm haha | 06:01 |
| kingchipo | tired of removing viruses :\ | 06:01 |
| holstein | kingchipo: i have plenty i got for free or *quite* cheap.. | 06:01 |
| holstein | kingchipo: its up to you.. nothing about linux/lubuntu is preventing broadcom from supporting that device, but, i woudl try referring to.. | 06:01 |
| holstein | !broadcom | 06:02 |
| ubottu | Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx | 06:02 |
| kingchipo | haha yeah im aware of the proprietary bs | 06:02 |
| holstein | try lubuntu 14.04 live.. you should be able to add the firmware there | 06:02 |
| kingchipo | Thinking of trying a debian distro | 06:02 |
| holstein | kingchipo: so, try adding the firmware, and see if it works, and dont assume that on a machine of the xp era that its not just bad hardware | 06:03 |
| holstein | i spend a long time troubleshooting a device for the *same* deal.. a family member. turned out the wifi device was broken | 06:03 |
| holstein | kingchipo: the kernel is modular, and contains the drivers that its allowed to contain.. debian is not allowed to provide the brodcom drivers either.. | 06:04 |
| kingchipo | Haha, well it does work on xp, I''ve gotten to to recognize to "connect" just very slow | 06:04 |
| holstein | kingchipo: you should be able to try a debian live distro as well.. | 06:04 |
| kingchipo | Lol, Have you ever dealt with a really old machine? if the image is larger than 700 mb It will not install | 06:05 |
| holstein | kingchipo: you might have 2 broadcom driver options, as well as the windows driver in ndiswraper | 06:05 |
| kingchipo | Read in some ubuntu docs that this card should use the bra legacy | 06:05 |
| holstein | kingchipo: *yes*.. the machine i referenced above was older.. and i installed on an older machine today.. *quite* often. the age of the machine is *not* your issue | 06:05 |
| holstein | !broadcom | kingchipo | 06:06 |
| ubottu | kingchipo: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx | 06:06 |
| holstein | ^ thats the ubuntu doc | 06:06 |
| holstein | kingchipo: you can read there, or here.. open a terminal and run "lspci". there, you will find your device id.. bcm4313 or whatever | 06:06 |
| kingchipo | It's wierd, I try installing mint earlier, being that i needed to use a dvd the live cd is extremely slow and seems to halt | 06:06 |
| holstein | kingchipo: mint has the same kernel | 06:07 |
| kingchipo | Right, wierd. Mint and kubuntu would not install. But the smaller lubuntu image would | 06:07 |
| holstein | kingchipo: i *dont* install til i learn how to support the hardware | 06:08 |
| kingchipo | any image on a cd would install, dvd image would not | 06:08 |
| holstein | kingchipo: a team of professionals were hired to make sure all that hardware worked well in windows.. you are taking that role on | 06:08 |
| holstein | !mini | kingchipo | 06:08 |
| ubottu | kingchipo: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want. The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD | 06:08 |
| kingchipo | Right lol i understand | 06:08 |
| holstein | you can use that image, which fits on a CD.. install the minimal environment, and use wired networking to get packages | 06:09 |
| holstein | you can install from bootable USB | 06:09 |
| kingchipo | I can't remeber the exact lubuntu image i used but it was 680 mb and installed fine from cd | 06:09 |
| kingchipo | I know the official was 720 mb and would not install from dvd haha | 06:09 |
| holstein | kingchipo: i would use the 14.04 version | 06:09 |
| holstein | kingchipo: if you are not, get the 14.04 version, and try it.. you can use the mini iso i referenced above, or USB install | 06:10 |
| kingchipo | Well Ive gotten lubuntu installed. Unforunately its so old the bios dont support booting from usb | 06:11 |
| holstein | http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager/ is how you boot USB on that hardware | 06:11 |
| kingchipo | woah | 06:11 |
| kingchipo | Thats helpful... | 06:11 |
| holstein | if you dont have version 14.04, get that one | 06:11 |
| kingchipo | I do | 06:11 |
| holstein | kingchipo: you state you dont know what you have | 06:12 |
| kingchipo | I dont know which image i used. It was 14.04 but the image was smaller than the official image | 06:12 |
| holstein | kingchipo: there is *only* the official versions | 06:13 |
| kingchipo | I used the alternate image available here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Alternate_ISO | 06:13 |
| kingchipo | slightly smaller so i could fit it on cd-rom | 06:13 |
| holstein | ok.. that is official | 06:13 |
| holstein | kingchipo: so, read the broadcom linke, and try the alternatives.. or replace the hardware. or try the windows driver in ndis | 06:14 |
| holstein | usually there are 2 options.. but, there may not be | 06:14 |
| holstein | you can use "lspci" and link the output here if you need help figuring out what you have | 06:14 |
| holstein | !paste | 06:14 |
| ubottu | For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 06:14 |
| kingchipo | ok sure thanks! ill run through the documentation again and see my results. | 06:15 |
| holstein | kingchipo: or, share you card chipset here, or #ubuntu and someone can assist | 06:15 |
| kingchipo | Ok, possibly found the problem? the driver in use is b43-pci-bridge. This isn't the legacy driver i presume? | 06:17 |
| holstein | kingchipo: dont "presume" anything | 06:17 |
| holstein | kingchipo: link your chipset here, or #ubuntu, and a volunteer will try and assist you | 06:17 |
| holstein | kingchipo: open a terminal, run lspci, and share the chipset.. | 06:18 |
| holstein | share the entire line from there about the device.. | 06:18 |
| kingchipo | Chip is BCM4306 ( 14e4:4320) | 06:18 |
| holstein | kingchipo: no "Rev" ? | 06:20 |
| kingchipo | rev 2 | 06:20 |
| kingchipo | sorry.. | 06:20 |
| holstein | kingchipo: it *literally* cannot hurt you to shave the entire line | 06:20 |
| holstein | share* | 06:21 |
| holstein | kingchipo: you can try, opening a terminal, and run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer" without the quotes | 06:22 |
| holstein | kingchipo: acutally, for rev2, you need.. | 06:23 |
| holstein | "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install firmware-b43legacy-installer" | 06:23 |
| holstein | kingchipo: i woudld try the second command, and reboot.. i would be wired when running that ^ and also, before i test, i'll run this as well "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" while wired, before rebooting.. | 06:24 |
| holstein | kingchipo: please run those 2 commands, and share any errors, and reboot and test the wifi.. | 06:25 |
| holstein | !paste | 06:25 |
| holstein | kingchipo: is the wifi working? | 06:31 |
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| kingchipo | Yes, It connects to the router, but is extremely slow | 06:32 |
| kingchipo | about 4000 bytes per second slow | 06:32 |
| holstein | kingchipo: how are you determining the speed? | 06:32 |
| kingchipo | just a speed test lol | 06:33 |
| holstein | kingchipo: in what capacity? a speed test to your gateway? | 06:33 |
| kingchipo | speedtest.net | 06:34 |
| kingchipo | lol | 06:34 |
| holstein | kingchipo: whats funny, friend? | 06:35 |
| kingchipo | the speed :) | 06:35 |
| holstein | kingchipo: there can be expected compromises, as i was saying before, since, you are not promised linux support for the device by the creators of it | 06:35 |
| holstein | kingchipo: did you update? and reboot? | 06:36 |
| kingchipo | I did both update and reboot | 06:36 |
| kingchipo | Could conflicting drivers cause this? | 06:37 |
| holstein | kingchipo: if you installed multiple drivers, and you are not using the one i just had you install, sure | 06:38 |
| holstein | kingchipo: what driver are you using? you can use "lspci -vv" and *please* use pastebin to share the *actual* output | 06:38 |
| holstein | !paste | 06:38 |
| holstein | kingchipo: sure, thats the information you shared before *still* not copied and pasted as i asked.. what i need is the driver information | 06:40 |
| holstein | kingchipo: can you open a terminal and run "lspci -vv" and share the output? | 06:40 |
| kingchipo | Whats the short cut for copy ? | 06:41 |
| ianorlin | !pastebinit | 06:41 |
| ubottu | pastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com | 06:41 |
| holstein | select.. right click.. select "copy".. or control c.. | 06:41 |
| kingchipo | http://paste.ubuntu.com/9279245/ | 06:43 |
| kingchipo | sorry, i was in xterm | 06:43 |
| holstein | kingchipo: did you install any other drivers from the internet? | 06:44 |
| holstein | kingchipo: what would i do? load an ubuntu 14.04 live CD.. lubuntu is fine.. i would install the firmware-b43legacy-installer package, and see that it works as expected.. | 06:45 |
| kingchipo | I believe i may have, when i first attempted to troubleshoot the card i follow some instructions on a forum post. | 06:46 |
| kingchipo | ok, ill do that, sounds easier | 06:46 |
| holstein | kingchipo: if you have ran some commands that you cant/wont share here, they could be breaking something | 06:47 |
| holstein | kingchipo: you can also just fresh install, and refer to the information i gave.. | 06:47 |
| kingchipo | reinstalling now | 06:47 |
| holstein | kingchipo: that would likely take less time since you have the alternate iso already.. resintall, boot and run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install firmware-b43legacy-installer" while wired.. reboot, and test | 06:48 |
| kingchipo | Ok sure thing, incase your not here when it finishes, Thanks a ton for your help | 06:49 |
| holstein | sure.. and if that doenst work, i would do these steps.. remove that package.. sudo apt-get autoremove firmware-b43legacy-installer, then refer to and try https://andym3.wordpress.com/projects/the-broadcom-wireless-card-guide/ | 06:50 |
| holstein | if that doesnt work, remove what he has suggested, and.. | 06:50 |
| holstein | !bug | 06:50 |
| ubottu | If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. | 06:50 |
| holstein | ^ file or join a bug... you can always try #ubuntu as well, since its more general than lubuntu | 06:50 |
| kingchipo | Will do, Thank you so much! | 06:51 |
| holstein | or, just buy another device.. i promise you can replace that for under $10US | 06:52 |
| kingchipo | Yeah i know lol, I have a netbook setting in my closet.. just need another 3.5 hdd for it or else i would use it. | 06:53 |
| holstein | you can get one of those for free/cheap as well | 06:56 |
| holstein | the netbook.. not the hard drive ;) | 06:56 |
| holstein | what i did was take the chipset from one netbook and replace a broadcom in another.. viola | 06:57 |
| holstein | voila* | 06:57 |
| kingchipo | People are pretty greedy with their electronics around here. | 07:00 |
| kingchipo | For some reason they believe their emachines they bought from circuit city in 1989 is still worth $1200 | 07:00 |
| holstein | what chipset is in the netbook? why not run the netbook with an SD card or USB stick for a hard drive? | 07:01 |
| holstein | i'll just pulll the hard drives and boot sd cards on them.. | 07:01 |
| kingchipo | Hmm thats a really great idea. | 07:02 |
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