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| dholbach | good morning | 07:34 |
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| JamesTait | Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy Buy Nothing Day! :-D | 09:33 |
| dholbach | popey, have you had a chat with Carlo Giordano already? | 09:38 |
| DanChapman | Good Morning all o/ | 09:39 |
| popey | dholbach: not yet. thanks for the nudge | 09:39 |
| * dholbach hugs popey | 09:40 | |
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| zmaj | good morning everyone...what are you working on? :) | 10:29 |
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| kalikiana | JamesTait: Do donations count? | 11:04 |
| kalikiana | best not to answer that, or you get into a deep discussion on how donating is very often not what people want it to be | 11:04 |
| JamesTait | kalikiana, ;) | 11:21 |
| brendand | popey, it seems to be that music-app can get itself into a state where tracks don't automatically start playing when you tap on them | 11:34 |
| brendand | popey, i had to run the AP suite a number of times to make it happen | 11:35 |
| popey | brendand: oh? how? | 11:35 |
| popey | can you file a bug? | 11:35 |
| brendand | popey, sure i'll try to reproduce it once more and do that | 11:35 |
| popey | thanks | 11:35 |
| popey | ping me the bug number and I'll try to reproduce here | 11:36 |
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| jhyta | Hello | 12:29 |
| jhyta | I'm chatting from the Ubuntu SDK qt creator | 12:29 |
| jhyta | is there a way to emulate Ubuntu touch on here? | 12:29 |
| jhyta | I have no devices | 12:29 |
| jhyta | But I would like to see the OS | 12:30 |
| dholbach | http://developer.ubuntu.com/apps/sdk/tutorials/using-the-ubuntu-emulator/ | 12:31 |
| jhyta | dholbach: thank you very much! | 12:47 |
| dholbach | anytime | 12:47 |
| jhyta | dholbach: do you have an Ubuntu phone? I mean, a physical device with Ubuntu | 12:47 |
| dholbach | a Nexus 4, yes | 12:48 |
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| jhyta | dholbach: I want a phone with Ubuntu (Well, in fact I don't want any other thing). I thought I could buy one from bq (I'm from Spain) but it seems they are not going to sell it so… I can't wait anymore. I should buy a Nexus and install Ubuntu, then? | 12:55 |
| dholbach | jhyta, don't ask me for a release date of bq phones - I don't know :) | 12:56 |
| dholbach | bq phones are next in the pipeline and as you might have gathered, meizu phones are next | 12:56 |
| dholbach | but you're right... at this moment in time, there's only nexus4 phones | 12:57 |
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| dholbach | dpm, here's a list of articles on developer.u.c: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9283495/ | 14:12 |
| dholbach | dpm, looks like we could clean a few from the list... like http://developer.ubuntu.com/apps/qml/tutorial/building_your_first_qml_app/getting-your-app-ready-for-the-app-showdown/ | 14:12 |
| dholbach | let me sort the page | 14:13 |
| dholbach | http://paste.ubuntu.com/9283521/ | 14:13 |
| dpm | ok | 14:13 |
| dholbach | that's the list of pages currently marked as 'published' | 14:14 |
| dpm | http://developer.ubuntu.com/scopes/tutorials/write-a-json-scope-in-cpp-2/ | 14:15 |
| dpm | http://developer.ubuntu.com/scopes/tutorials/write-a-xml-scope-in-cpp-2/ | 14:15 |
| dpm | I'll unpublish these two | 14:15 |
| dholbach | this should probably http://developer.ubuntu.com/apps/qml/tutorial/building_your_first_qml_app/creating-click-packages-with-qml-c-extensions/ be unpublished as well? | 14:16 |
| dholbach | dpm, I guess I can mark the /zh/ namespace as pending review? | 14:18 |
| dholbach | or shall we let it stick around for now= | 14:18 |
| dholbach | ? | 14:18 |
| dpm | dholbach, perhaps there is something we can reuse for the translations | 14:18 |
| dholbach | ok | 14:18 |
| dholbach | mhall119, do you know what http://developer.ubuntu.com/showdown-dummy/ is? | 14:19 |
| * dholbach unpublishes http://developer.ubuntu.com/community/recordings/ | 14:19 | |
| dpm | dholbach, yeah, http://developer.ubuntu.com/apps/qml/tutorial/building_your_first_qml_app/creating-click-packages-with-qml-c-extensions/ should be unpublished | 14:19 |
| dholbach | I used "pending review" if that's all right | 14:19 |
| dholbach | dpm, davidcalle: an updated list of published articles: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9283612/ | 14:22 |
| dholbach | if you spot anything on there which shouldn't be there, let me know | 14:22 |
| davidcalle | dholbach, oh nice, thanks! | 14:22 |
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| davidcalle | dholbach, html5 pages will change mid-next week (I'll try not to break links, but not 100% sure everything will stay) | 14:24 |
| davidcalle | dholbach, you can drop http://developer.ubuntu.com/scopes/tutorials/unity-8-scope-example-openclipart/ | 14:26 |
| davidcalle | dholbach, regarding html5 pages, there will be at least one more | 14:27 |
| davidcalle | dholbach, that's all I see for now :) | 14:28 |
| dholbach | ok cool | 14:28 |
| dholbach | davidcalle, I just wanted to update the spreadsheet and drop old/unused stuff | 14:28 |
| davidcalle | dholbach, the localization spreadsheet? | 14:29 |
| dholbach | yep | 14:29 |
| dholbach | I won't everything, as for example /cloud is less of a priority | 14:29 |
| davidcalle | dholbach, ok :) For the record, dbarth and I are dealing with the html5 section. | 14:30 |
| dholbach | excellent | 14:30 |
| mhall119 | dholbach: I think it was a placeholder or an old page, something to work around a Wordpress limitation | 14:38 |
| dholbach | ok | 14:38 |
| dholbach | I unpublished it as well | 14:38 |
| mhall119 | it shouldn't have been published, was it? | 14:38 |
| dholbach | it was | 14:45 |
| dholbach | I marked it as 'pending review' now | 14:45 |
| dholbach | davidcalle, http://developer.ubuntu.com/apps/platform/guides/online-accounts-developer-guide/ is ready for translation, right? | 14:50 |
| dholbach | davidcalle, and http://developer.ubuntu.com/scopes/tutorials/adding-settings-to-your-scope/ | 14:52 |
| dholbach | davidcalle, and http://developer.ubuntu.com/scopes/tutorials/prepare-your-scope-for-publication/ | 14:53 |
| dholbach | and http://developer.ubuntu.com/publish/scope/application-states/ | 14:55 |
| dholbach | davidcalle, if you could have a quick look at the spreadsheet and update it, that'd be great | 14:55 |
| mihir | balloons: hi | 15:34 |
| balloons | mihir, aloha | 15:37 |
| davidcalle | dholbach, http://developer.ubuntu.com/publish/scope/application-states/ is the only one I have doubts about. Not because of the content, but it doesn't seem to be in the right place. Can it linger in limbo a few more days? | 15:51 |
| dholbach | davidcalle, sure | 15:52 |
| davidcalle | Thanks | 15:52 |
| dholbach | I think the problem is the navigation | 15:52 |
| dholbach | application-states should be the same for /publish/{scopes,apps,web}/ | 15:53 |
| davidcalle | dholbach, yes | 15:53 |
| dholbach | the same goes for articles like licensing | 15:53 |
| dholbach | or creating a good icon | 15:53 |
| dholbach | but it's hard to go back to /publish/scopes/ | 15:53 |
| mihir | balloons: happy thanks giving :) sorry to disturb you on holiday :D | 15:58 |
| balloons | mihir, thank you. And now worries, I'm around today. Do you need something? | 16:04 |
| mihir | balloons: yes , i saw your comment on that MP , just wanted to check what needs to be done regarding BottomEdge. | 16:05 |
| balloons | mihir, helpers for the bottomedge? | 16:14 |
| seb128 | hum | 16:14 |
| mihir | balloons: hmm yeah | 16:14 |
| balloons | brendand, I believe you did some standardization on bottom edge helpers recently yes? | 16:14 |
| seb128 | is that normal than first qtcreator project forces me into creating a chroot which takes ages? | 16:15 |
| brendand | balloons, nope - i did some fix related to bottom edge but it certainly wasn't standardisation | 16:20 |
| brendand | balloons, i just hacked clock-app to work | 16:20 |
| balloons | I remember though elopio asking you to file for a helper for it.. or was that something else? | 16:21 |
| balloons | seb128, if you chose to target the phone yes | 16:21 |
| seb128 | k | 16:21 |
| balloons | It's interesting, as if you build it after you open the project, it can be backgrounded | 16:22 |
| seb128 | do we have updated tutorials on how to start? I'm reading http://developer.ubuntu.com/apps/qml/tutorial/building_your_first_qml_app/ but it lacks those details | 16:22 |
| seb128 | it's also has un-accurate labels/values | 16:22 |
| seb128 | e.g it would need to be updated to catch with changes that happened since | 16:22 |
| seb128 | dpm, ^ | 16:22 |
| balloons | seb128, please file a bug on the diffs if you would | 16:23 |
| seb128 | what project? | 16:23 |
| balloons | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntudeveloperportal/+filebug?field.tags=&field.comment=%0A%0A%0AReported+from:+http%3A%2F%2Fdeveloper.ubuntu.com%2F%3Fpage_id%3D | 16:23 |
| seb128 | thanks | 16:23 |
| balloons | it's the bottom of the page | 16:23 |
| * balloons is curious if one exists for this or not | 16:23 | |
| dpm | thanks seb128 | 16:24 |
| seb128 | shrug | 16:24 |
| balloons | mihir, so we can borrow what the clock app does for now | 16:24 |
| seb128 | 15 minutes later | 16:24 |
| seb128 | The following packages have unmet dependencies: | 16:24 |
| seb128 | ubuntu-sdk-libs:armhf : Depends: ubuntu-html5-container:armhf | 16:24 |
| balloons | mihir, it should work as brendand fixed it :-) | 16:24 |
| seb128 | can't create a project on vivid | 16:24 |
| * seb128 ponders what to do next | 16:24 | |
| seb128 | the wizard don't let me click next | 16:24 |
| mihir | balloons: yes I did that. anywhere i'll look into this and we can fix that next week | 16:25 |
| balloons | mihir, you can also enlist doug5's help on this | 16:25 |
| brendand | balloons, that debate was about the location prompt | 16:26 |
| mihir | balloons: okay..i'll do that. | 16:27 |
| bzoltan | seb128: anything I could help | 16:30 |
| bzoltan | ? | 16:30 |
| seb128 | bzoltan, do you know how I can start an ubuntu touch project on vivid? | 16:30 |
| bzoltan | seb128: #define onvivid | 16:31 |
| seb128 | bzoltan, the qtcreator wizard wants me to create a Kit, it doesn't let me click next, and creating it fails with "ubuntu-sdk-libs:armhf : Depends: ubuntu-html5-container:armhf" | 16:31 |
| seb128 | bzoltan, Ubuntu, the distro, vivid being the current serie | 16:31 |
| seb128 | I'm on an uptodate vivid i386 desktop | 16:31 |
| bzoltan | seb128: the stock click can not create vivid chroot ... | 16:31 |
| seb128 | bzoltan, well, that's what qtcreator propose as default "kit" to create | 16:32 |
| seb128 | armhf 15.04 | 16:32 |
| seb128 | which downloads stuff for half an hour to fail on the error I just copied | 16:32 |
| seb128 | not sure how to get past that | 16:32 |
| bzoltan | seb128: yes, I know ... | 16:32 |
| seb128 | I'm trying to change 15.04 to 14.10 now | 16:32 |
| seb128 | but it seems it's again up for half an hour download | 16:32 |
| bzoltan | seb128: it is a super annoying issue what blocks me too | 16:32 |
| seb128 | can I use qtcreator to write some qml while it's doing that? | 16:32 |
| seb128 | the wizard seems modal to the ide | 16:33 |
| bzoltan | seb128: the ubuntu-sdk-libs: armhf can not be installed in i386 vivid chroot ... mvo knows the details, but there a library under what is not multiarch ready | 16:34 |
| seb128 | bzoltan, any recommendation on what to do if I just want to write a simple qml app? | 16:34 |
| seb128 | just don't use the wizard and create a file rather than a project? | 16:35 |
| seb128 | can I skip the kit creation step in some way? | 16:35 |
| bzoltan | seb128: you do need a vivid chroot .. I made a hackaround click version in the Dev Tools PPA | 16:36 |
| bzoltan | seb128: but yes, it is a showstopper and blocker issue for the SDK | 16:36 |
| seb128 | bzoltan, I guess I'm unlucky/picked the wrong moment to try the "new user experience" ;-) | 16:37 |
| bzoltan | seb128: it is not a wrong moment ... it is a broken click | 16:37 |
| bzoltan | seb128: this problem is there since Vivid is open | 16:37 |
| seb128 | bzoltan, well I assume click was working in 14.10 and is going to be fixed | 16:37 |
| seb128 | so that's sort of a wrong moment in that sense | 16:37 |
| bzoltan | seb128: I hear you ... I am frustrated because of this problem. I do not like that the 15.04 fw was changed to pull the sdk-libs:armhf instead of how it was for 14.10 frameworks. | 16:39 |
| popey | balloons: we had a calculator meeting yesterday, do you know if someone from QA can help us with Autopilot tests for the new calculator? | 16:40 |
| balloons | popey, it's all new, so all new tests? | 16:48 |
| popey | balloons: yup! | 16:48 |
| popey | clean slate | 16:48 |
| balloons | I might help with the initial setup if needed so whomever writes the tests has it easy | 16:48 |
| bzoltan | seb128: what we need is to take in this MR https://code.launchpad.net/~mvo/oxide/crossbuild-friendly/+merge/234093 | 16:49 |
| balloons | that said, let me see who might be interested :-) | 16:49 |
| seb128 | bzoltan, right, I read #ubuntu-touch, thanks ;-) | 16:49 |
| bzoltan | seb128: once that MR is merged mvo will release a new click with vivid support | 16:49 |
| seb128 | great | 16:49 |
| popey | balloons: r_padovani m_ihir and g_ang65 are working on it | 16:50 |
| balloons | popey, ahh right.. I think gang65 would be a good choice if he's up to it. I wanted to ask him | 16:50 |
| popey | he's already got branches in flight | 16:51 |
| balloons | I added him to the test writers team as he's contributed to several apps so jenkins would run his stuff | 16:51 |
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