=== chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [07:34] good morning === rmescandon is now known as rmescandon|afk === rmescandon|afk is now known as rmescandon === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === zsombi_ is now known as zsombi === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [09:33] Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy Buy Nothing Day! :-D [09:38] popey, have you had a chat with Carlo Giordano already? [09:39] Good Morning all o/ [09:39] dholbach: not yet. thanks for the nudge [09:40] * dholbach hugs popey === karni is now known as karni-otp [10:29] good morning everyone...what are you working on? :) === karni-otp is now known as karni [11:04] JamesTait: Do donations count? [11:04] best not to answer that, or you get into a deep discussion on how donating is very often not what people want it to be [11:21] kalikiana, ;) [11:34] popey, it seems to be that music-app can get itself into a state where tracks don't automatically start playing when you tap on them [11:35] popey, i had to run the AP suite a number of times to make it happen [11:35] brendand: oh? how? [11:35] can you file a bug? [11:35] popey, sure i'll try to reproduce it once more and do that [11:35] thanks [11:36] ping me the bug number and I'll try to reproduce here === _salem is now known as salem_ [12:29] Hello [12:29] I'm chatting from the Ubuntu SDK qt creator [12:29] is there a way to emulate Ubuntu touch on here? [12:29] I have no devices [12:30] But I would like to see the OS [12:31] http://developer.ubuntu.com/apps/sdk/tutorials/using-the-ubuntu-emulator/ [12:47] dholbach: thank you very much! [12:47] anytime [12:47] dholbach: do you have an Ubuntu phone? I mean, a physical device with Ubuntu [12:48] a Nexus 4, yes === karni is now known as karni-lunch === dholbach_ is now known as dholbac === dholbac is now known as dholbach [12:55] dholbach: I want a phone with Ubuntu (Well, in fact I don't want any other thing). I thought I could buy one from bq (I'm from Spain) but it seems they are not going to sell it so… I can't wait anymore. I should buy a Nexus and install Ubuntu, then? [12:56] jhyta, don't ask me for a release date of bq phones - I don't know :) [12:56] bq phones are next in the pipeline and as you might have gathered, meizu phones are next [12:57] but you're right... at this moment in time, there's only nexus4 phones === rmescandon is now known as rmescandon|lunch === karni-lunch is now known as karni [14:12] dpm, here's a list of articles on developer.u.c: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9283495/ [14:12] dpm, looks like we could clean a few from the list... like http://developer.ubuntu.com/apps/qml/tutorial/building_your_first_qml_app/getting-your-app-ready-for-the-app-showdown/ [14:13] let me sort the page [14:13] http://paste.ubuntu.com/9283521/ [14:13] ok [14:14] that's the list of pages currently marked as 'published' [14:15] http://developer.ubuntu.com/scopes/tutorials/write-a-json-scope-in-cpp-2/ [14:15] http://developer.ubuntu.com/scopes/tutorials/write-a-xml-scope-in-cpp-2/ [14:15] I'll unpublish these two [14:16] this should probably http://developer.ubuntu.com/apps/qml/tutorial/building_your_first_qml_app/creating-click-packages-with-qml-c-extensions/ be unpublished as well? [14:18] dpm, I guess I can mark the /zh/ namespace as pending review? [14:18] or shall we let it stick around for now= [14:18] ? [14:18] dholbach, perhaps there is something we can reuse for the translations [14:18] ok [14:19] mhall119, do you know what http://developer.ubuntu.com/showdown-dummy/ is? [14:19] * dholbach unpublishes http://developer.ubuntu.com/community/recordings/ [14:19] dholbach, yeah, http://developer.ubuntu.com/apps/qml/tutorial/building_your_first_qml_app/creating-click-packages-with-qml-c-extensions/ should be unpublished [14:19] I used "pending review" if that's all right [14:22] dpm, davidcalle: an updated list of published articles: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9283612/ [14:22] if you spot anything on there which shouldn't be there, let me know [14:22] dholbach, oh nice, thanks! === rmescandon|lunch is now known as rmescandon [14:24] dholbach, html5 pages will change mid-next week (I'll try not to break links, but not 100% sure everything will stay) [14:26] dholbach, you can drop http://developer.ubuntu.com/scopes/tutorials/unity-8-scope-example-openclipart/ [14:27] dholbach, regarding html5 pages, there will be at least one more [14:28] dholbach, that's all I see for now :) [14:28] ok cool [14:28] davidcalle, I just wanted to update the spreadsheet and drop old/unused stuff [14:29] dholbach, the localization spreadsheet? [14:29] yep [14:29] I won't everything, as for example /cloud is less of a priority [14:30] dholbach, ok :) For the record, dbarth and I are dealing with the html5 section. [14:30] excellent [14:38] dholbach: I think it was a placeholder or an old page, something to work around a Wordpress limitation [14:38] ok [14:38] I unpublished it as well [14:38] it shouldn't have been published, was it? [14:45] it was [14:45] I marked it as 'pending review' now [14:50] davidcalle, http://developer.ubuntu.com/apps/platform/guides/online-accounts-developer-guide/ is ready for translation, right? [14:52] davidcalle, and http://developer.ubuntu.com/scopes/tutorials/adding-settings-to-your-scope/ [14:53] davidcalle, and http://developer.ubuntu.com/scopes/tutorials/prepare-your-scope-for-publication/ [14:55] and http://developer.ubuntu.com/publish/scope/application-states/ [14:55] davidcalle, if you could have a quick look at the spreadsheet and update it, that'd be great [15:34] balloons: hi [15:37] mihir, aloha [15:51] dholbach, http://developer.ubuntu.com/publish/scope/application-states/ is the only one I have doubts about. Not because of the content, but it doesn't seem to be in the right place. Can it linger in limbo a few more days? [15:52] davidcalle, sure [15:52] Thanks [15:52] I think the problem is the navigation [15:53] application-states should be the same for /publish/{scopes,apps,web}/ [15:53] dholbach, yes [15:53] the same goes for articles like licensing [15:53] or creating a good icon [15:53] but it's hard to go back to /publish/scopes/ [15:58] balloons: happy thanks giving :) sorry to disturb you on holiday :D [16:04] mihir, thank you. And now worries, I'm around today. Do you need something? [16:05] balloons: yes , i saw your comment on that MP , just wanted to check what needs to be done regarding BottomEdge. [16:14] mihir, helpers for the bottomedge? [16:14] hum [16:14] balloons: hmm yeah [16:14] brendand, I believe you did some standardization on bottom edge helpers recently yes? [16:15] is that normal than first qtcreator project forces me into creating a chroot which takes ages? [16:20] balloons, nope - i did some fix related to bottom edge but it certainly wasn't standardisation [16:20] balloons, i just hacked clock-app to work [16:21] I remember though elopio asking you to file for a helper for it.. or was that something else? [16:21] seb128, if you chose to target the phone yes [16:21] k [16:22] It's interesting, as if you build it after you open the project, it can be backgrounded [16:22] do we have updated tutorials on how to start? I'm reading http://developer.ubuntu.com/apps/qml/tutorial/building_your_first_qml_app/ but it lacks those details [16:22] it's also has un-accurate labels/values [16:22] e.g it would need to be updated to catch with changes that happened since [16:22] dpm, ^ [16:23] seb128, please file a bug on the diffs if you would [16:23] what project? [16:23] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntudeveloperportal/+filebug?field.tags=&field.comment=%0A%0A%0AReported+from:+http%3A%2F%2Fdeveloper.ubuntu.com%2F%3Fpage_id%3D [16:23] thanks [16:23] it's the bottom of the page [16:23] * balloons is curious if one exists for this or not [16:24] thanks seb128 [16:24] shrug [16:24] mihir, so we can borrow what the clock app does for now [16:24] 15 minutes later [16:24] The following packages have unmet dependencies: [16:24] ubuntu-sdk-libs:armhf : Depends: ubuntu-html5-container:armhf [16:24] mihir, it should work as brendand fixed it :-) [16:24] can't create a project on vivid [16:24] * seb128 ponders what to do next [16:24] the wizard don't let me click next [16:25] balloons: yes I did that. anywhere i'll look into this and we can fix that next week [16:25] mihir, you can also enlist doug5's help on this [16:26] balloons, that debate was about the location prompt [16:27] balloons: okay..i'll do that. [16:30] seb128: anything I could help [16:30] ? [16:30] bzoltan, do you know how I can start an ubuntu touch project on vivid? [16:31] seb128: #define onvivid [16:31] bzoltan, the qtcreator wizard wants me to create a Kit, it doesn't let me click next, and creating it fails with "ubuntu-sdk-libs:armhf : Depends: ubuntu-html5-container:armhf" [16:31] bzoltan, Ubuntu, the distro, vivid being the current serie [16:31] I'm on an uptodate vivid i386 desktop [16:31] seb128: the stock click can not create vivid chroot ... [16:32] bzoltan, well, that's what qtcreator propose as default "kit" to create [16:32] armhf 15.04 [16:32] which downloads stuff for half an hour to fail on the error I just copied [16:32] not sure how to get past that [16:32] seb128: yes, I know ... [16:32] I'm trying to change 15.04 to 14.10 now [16:32] but it seems it's again up for half an hour download [16:32] seb128: it is a super annoying issue what blocks me too [16:32] can I use qtcreator to write some qml while it's doing that? [16:33] the wizard seems modal to the ide [16:34] seb128: the ubuntu-sdk-libs: armhf can not be installed in i386 vivid chroot ... mvo knows the details, but there a library under what is not multiarch ready [16:34] bzoltan, any recommendation on what to do if I just want to write a simple qml app? [16:35] just don't use the wizard and create a file rather than a project? [16:35] can I skip the kit creation step in some way? [16:36] seb128: you do need a vivid chroot .. I made a hackaround click version in the Dev Tools PPA [16:36] seb128: but yes, it is a showstopper and blocker issue for the SDK [16:37] bzoltan, I guess I'm unlucky/picked the wrong moment to try the "new user experience" ;-) [16:37] seb128: it is not a wrong moment ... it is a broken click [16:37] seb128: this problem is there since Vivid is open [16:37] bzoltan, well I assume click was working in 14.10 and is going to be fixed [16:37] so that's sort of a wrong moment in that sense [16:39] seb128: I hear you ... I am frustrated because of this problem. I do not like that the 15.04 fw was changed to pull the sdk-libs:armhf instead of how it was for 14.10 frameworks. [16:40] balloons: we had a calculator meeting yesterday, do you know if someone from QA can help us with Autopilot tests for the new calculator? [16:48] popey, it's all new, so all new tests? [16:48] balloons: yup! [16:48] clean slate [16:48] I might help with the initial setup if needed so whomever writes the tests has it easy [16:49] seb128: what we need is to take in this MR https://code.launchpad.net/~mvo/oxide/crossbuild-friendly/+merge/234093 [16:49] that said, let me see who might be interested :-) [16:49] bzoltan, right, I read #ubuntu-touch, thanks ;-) [16:49] seb128: once that MR is merged mvo will release a new click with vivid support [16:49] great [16:50] balloons: r_padovani m_ihir and g_ang65 are working on it [16:50] popey, ahh right.. I think gang65 would be a good choice if he's up to it. I wanted to ask him [16:51] he's already got branches in flight [16:51] I added him to the test writers team as he's contributed to several apps so jenkins would run his stuff === salem_ is now known as _salem