| daftykins | *nod* | 00:03 |
|---|---|---|
| bigcalm | I'm trying to get an openvpn connection working from my hotel connection to my openwrt router at home. Is there a way to work out why it's not connecting? | 00:08 |
| bigcalm | This is from syslog on my laptop: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9290346/ | 00:10 |
| daftykins | bigcalm: wouldn't an SSH proxy be enough? | 00:12 |
| daftykins | it says no verification methods enabled | 00:12 |
| daftykins | seems serious to me | 00:12 |
| intrbiz | bigcalm: try setting verb 4 | 00:12 |
| intrbiz | to get verbose logging | 00:12 |
| intrbiz | (chris has spent most of this week build OpenVPN servers for people) | 00:12 |
| bigcalm | Oops, I hadn't finished setting up the server on openwrt | 00:13 |
| intrbiz | usually OpenVPN not connecting is caused by: mismatched cipher / HMAC | 00:14 |
| daftykins | :D | 00:14 |
| bigcalm | daftykins: a proxy might be enough. But I want to get an openvpn tunnel working :D | 00:15 |
| daftykins | hehe | 00:15 |
| bigcalm | Following: http://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/howto/vpn.openvpn | 00:15 |
| intrbiz | bigcalm: have you generated all the certs you need? | 00:16 |
| bigcalm | intrbiz: yes | 00:16 |
| intrbiz | bigcalm: this is my server config: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9290415/ | 00:18 |
| bigcalm | intrbiz: might be needed later. Ta | 00:22 |
| bigcalm | Grumble, the tun0 interface is nt being brought up | 00:43 |
| bigcalm | Maybe after 2 glasses of red isn't the best time to do this | 00:43 |
| intrbiz | bigcalm: client config is along the lines of: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9290713/ | 00:44 |
| intrbiz | bigcalm: you can manually create the tun interface | 00:45 |
| intrbiz | remember you also need to add firewall rules for the tun interface | 00:45 |
| bigcalm | Unless it's not meant to exist | 00:46 |
| bigcalm | I meant on the server, unless it's not meant to exist | 00:47 |
| intrbiz | the tun inteface can persistently exist without causing any issues | 00:47 |
| bigcalm | `ifconfig | grep tun0` on the openwrt router returns nothing | 00:48 |
| intrbiz | the persist-tun option will stop tell openvpn to persistently create the tun interface | 00:48 |
| bigcalm | root@router:/etc/easy-rsa/keys# ps -w | grep openvpn | 00:48 |
| bigcalm | 21214 root 1372 S grep openvpn | 00:48 |
| bigcalm | root@router:/etc/easy-rsa/keys# | 00:48 |
| intrbiz | what does ifconfig tun0 give? | 00:49 |
| bigcalm | ifconfig: tun0: error fetching interface information: Device not found | 00:49 |
| intrbiz | is openvpn running? | 00:50 |
| intrbiz | you can run it manually on the command line for testing with: openvpn --verb 4 --config /etc/...conf | 00:51 |
| intrbiz | and on your client select the 'use only for resources on this connection' option in network manager under addresses -> routes to avoid redirecting the deafult gateway and breaking existing connections | 00:52 |
| bigcalm | I've just managed to spill my wine | 00:53 |
| bigcalm | I think I need to stop | 00:53 |
| intrbiz | oops | 00:54 |
| ali1234 | alberto strikes again? | 00:56 |
| ali1234 | popey: alberto is like the exact opposite of chris penalver | 00:57 |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| diddledan | err. price?! http://www.microcenter.com/product/439773/TW70CA17_Tablet_-_Black | 01:00 |
| diddledan | I know it's windoop, but still | 01:00 |
| diddledan | heh, you gotta go in-store.. in americaland | 01:02 |
| ali1234 | quad core intel in a tablet? | 01:02 |
| ali1234 | and only 1GB of ram? why? | 01:02 |
| diddledan | it's an atom, but yeah an intel | 01:02 |
| popey | i quite like my hudle | 01:06 |
| popey | can't type hudl, muscle memory won't let me | 01:07 |
| ali1234 | would you say you like to HODL your hudl? | 01:07 |
| popey | Yes, yes I would. | 01:07 |
| popey | I'd quite hudleable | 01:07 |
| ali1234 | those new asus transformers are quite nice | 01:07 |
| ali1234 | very thin | 01:08 |
| ali1234 | actually usable as a tablet... | 01:08 |
| popey | just a shame the hudle will in all likelyhood never get a software update | 01:08 |
| popey | link? | 01:08 |
| popey | have you tried a nexus 7 2013? | 01:08 |
| ali1234 | no | 01:08 |
| popey | they're pretty decent enough | 01:08 |
| ali1234 | http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/laptops-netbooks/ipad-tablets-and-ereaders/tablets/asus-transformer-book-t100-10-1-touchscreen-2-in-1-32-gb-dark-grey-21765509-pdt.html | 01:09 |
| ali1234 | i think it's that one | 01:09 |
| popey | check tha bezel | 01:09 |
| popey | asus also known for not providing sw updates | 01:09 |
| ali1234 | well you're not going to get edge to edge display for that price :) | 01:09 |
| popey | sure | 01:10 |
| popey | hudl beats it | 01:10 |
| popey | easily | 01:10 |
| popey | on that single criteria | 01:10 |
| ali1234 | yeah but it isn't a laptop transformer | 01:10 |
| popey | sure | 01:10 |
| ali1234 | asus transformer is just a normal PC, so no problems installing ubuntu on it | 01:11 |
| ali1234 | assuming there's drivers | 01:11 |
| popey | interesting | 01:12 |
| popey | the transformer TF101 was the first tablet we had ubuntu touch on | 01:13 |
| popey | a very early version | 01:13 |
| ali1234 | the first ones were a bit clunky i think | 01:13 |
| popey | yeah | 01:13 |
| popey | i still have one | 01:13 |
| ali1234 | but the new ones are really nice. the docking thing works well. it's tidy, but doesn't fell like it's going to fall apart | 01:14 |
| popey | not tegra, all intel? | 01:14 |
| ali1234 | they have models with intel and arm | 01:14 |
| ali1234 | not sure exactly which one i used, but it was intel | 01:15 |
| mjayk | popey: the tegra ones are the old ones the new ones are intel | 01:16 |
| popey | k | 01:17 |
| mjayk | oh ali1234 you might be right htey might still make arm ones - I've just only seen the new intel ones | 01:17 |
| ali1234 | they still have an ARM model on their website | 01:17 |
| ali1234 | tf303? | 01:17 |
| mjayk | tf300 is the one i was thinking out was the 303 a typo or is that a new model | 01:17 |
| ali1234 | new model i guess. it wasn't a typo | 01:18 |
| mjayk | i had xubuntu on the tf300 and it was surprisingly ok | 01:18 |
| mjayk | lscpu | 01:58 |
| === zmoylan-1i is now known as zmoylan-pi | ||
| markp | hi all | 06:56 |
| === G4MBY is now known as PaulW2U | ||
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 10:02 |
| foobarry | so many problems with chromecast :( | 10:22 |
| Nathan__ | how do you change to andother directory in the terminal | 10:39 |
| zmoylan-pi | cd <directory> | 10:42 |
| zmoylan-pi | and tab auto completes names of directories to save time | 10:43 |
| zmoylan-pi | usually | 10:43 |
| popey | foobarry: like? | 11:57 |
| === xoveruk is now known as urban_endeavour | ||
| === urban_endeavour is now known as urbanendeavour | ||
| twager | Anyone tell me how to open a JScript file ? | 15:33 |
| brobostigon | use a text editor maybe. like gedit? | 15:34 |
| twager | Will not open it.. | 15:35 |
| brobostigon | geany? | 15:36 |
| brobostigon | whats the error you get when you try and open it? | 15:37 |
| twager | Nothing in Linux seems to work..I even installed win7 on the laptop but that will not open it either | 15:37 |
| twager | I do not get an error it just sits looking at me :-{ | 15:38 |
| foobarry | popey:chromecast rebooting, falling off a stable wifi, cannot play music from music.google.com anoymore, etc etc | 15:43 |
| p42phone | T-Mobile seems to be struggling in manc city centre | 16:28 |
| p42phone | Ssh latency is a couple of seconds, web browsing just isn't working | 16:30 |
| bigcalm | Good morning peeps :) | 17:33 |
| daftykins | heya | 17:34 |
| penguin42 | hey bigcalm | 17:39 |
| bigcalm | o | 17:40 |
| bigcalm | o/ | 17:40 |
| popey | Morning! | 17:53 |
| * popey plays with mobile game adverts | 17:54 | |
| penguin42 | inserting them? | 17:55 |
| popey | yeah | 17:56 |
| penguin42 | anything entertaining you can do? | 17:57 |
| popey | well, just trying to see how they fit and react on ubuntu phone | 17:57 |
| popey | also http://uk.camelcamelcamel.com/Dell-U2913WM-Widescreen-2560x1080-DisplayPort/product/B00ADHLSMO | 17:57 |
| penguin42 | that's quite nice; although some of the (bad) 4k monitors are down to that price | 17:59 |
| daftykins | nice looking haswell ultrabook Lenovo Yoga 2 for £650 odd - but they refuse to ship to the Channel Islands :( | 18:20 |
| zmoylan-pi | they're afraid it'll get wet | 18:23 |
| daftykins | :) | 18:24 |
| ali1234 | how do i use this ubuntu developer tools center then? | 18:51 |
| map | hi all | 20:19 |
| penguin42 | heck, Dell are selling Makerbot 3d printers | 21:45 |
| daftykins | :o | 21:48 |
| zmoylan-pi | so common they even have one on iss | 21:49 |
| map | dont see what id need a 3d printer for:) | 22:06 |
| zmoylan-pi | printing your bigger 3d printer | 22:15 |
| === xnox_ is now known as xnox | ||
| bigcalm | openwrt - can I ony use the version listed in the hardware table, or is it an indication of what is known to work? I have a WNDR3700 with a Atheros AR7161 CPU. Currently it's running 10.0.3.1. Do you think I can run the latest (14.07) on it? | 22:26 |
| bigcalm | popey: ping | 22:26 |
| popey | I'm running a fairly recent one on mine | 22:27 |
| popey | thanks to MartijnVdS talking me through some bits | 22:27 |
| bigcalm | popey: did you upgrade from one release to the next or jump 1 or 2? | 22:28 |
| popey | i didnt upgrade | 22:28 |
| popey | i flashed a new version | 22:28 |
| bigcalm | popey: can you ssh into the router and cat /proc/cpuinfo for me please? | 22:28 |
| popey | i didnt think there was an 'upgrade' as such | 22:28 |
| bigcalm | Ah, fair enough :) | 22:28 |
| popey | just trying to now | 22:28 |
| bigcalm | Ta | 22:28 |
| popey | BARRIER BREAKER (Barrier Breaker, r43276) | 22:29 |
| popey | thats the version of OpenWRT I have | 22:29 |
| popey | http://paste.ubuntu.com/9305717/ | 22:30 |
| popey | thats cpuinfo | 22:30 |
| bigcalm | Okay, newer than Backfire that's on my wndr3700 | 22:30 |
| bigcalm | Yay same hardware as mine | 22:31 |
| bigcalm | I'll try installing 14.07 :D | 22:31 |
| bigcalm | I'm actually going to try a remote sysupgrade | 22:32 |
| bigcalm | Living on the edge and all that | 22:32 |
| daftykins | D: | 22:33 |
| bigcalm | Keeping myself occupied while at the hotel bar | 22:33 |
| daftykins | this isn't one of your VPN endpoints is it 0o | 22:33 |
| bigcalm | Red wine fuelling me | 22:33 |
| bigcalm | daftykins: I haven't managed to get the VPN working on the router yet. Hence wanting to try the latest revision of openwrt | 22:33 |
| daftykins | oic | 22:35 |
| bigcalm | Hotel free wifi is iffy, using Liverpool's 4g instead | 22:36 |
| bigcalm | I may drop off soon! | 22:36 |
| popey | i wouldn't do it remotely | 22:38 |
| popey | MartijnVdS ended up building me a special version which allowed me to use the higher wifi channels ☻ | 22:38 |
| map | where you going? | 22:39 |
| map | hotel wifi often sucks | 22:39 |
| map | in latvia i could only get wifi in one place in the whl | 22:40 |
| map | whole apartment:( | 22:40 |
| * bigcalm looks about | 22:40 | |
| bigcalm | It worked :D | 22:40 |
| bigcalm | I've reconnected | 22:40 |
| daftykins | it's to remind you you should be out and about, not on the computer! | 22:40 |
| map | pfff | 22:40 |
| map | we needed it for directions | 22:41 |
| map | :D | 22:41 |
| bigcalm | Wow, this version of the web ui looks quite different | 22:41 |
| map | altho we still ended up a the wrong stadium heh | 22:41 |
| popey | web ui? | 22:42 |
| bigcalm | popey: load the router's IP address in your web browser | 22:43 |
| popey | nothing | 22:43 |
| popey | i didnt install a web ui | 22:44 |
| bigcalm | popey: unless you were being facetious and I can't tell because of the wine :) | 22:44 |
| bigcalm | Oh, it came as standard I though | 22:44 |
| popey | nah | 22:44 |
| bigcalm | LuCI | 22:44 |
| popey | eh? | 22:44 |
| bigcalm | The name of the web ui | 22:46 |
| popey | oh | 22:46 |
| popey | ah, opkg install luci | 22:46 |
| popey | ☻ | 22:46 |
| popey | i had no idea there even was a web ui for openwrt | 22:47 |
| popey | \o/ installed | 22:48 |
| map | time to go into spain :d hope it doesnt rain | 22:49 |
| daftykins | pff rain never hurt anyone ;) | 22:49 |
| map | had to put cling film around my iphone...dropped it yesterday | 22:49 |
| map | screen broke of course | 22:49 |
| map | first time ive dropped it:( | 22:49 |
| map | 3rd screen ive broken | 22:49 |
| map | 4s/5 and now a 5s :[ | 22:49 |
| map | gonna get my dad to fix it when i go back..no point asking here..when i enquired about getting my phone unlocked they wanted £90...ee do it for 20 i just had to wait | 22:50 |
| daftykins | map: this is why you can't have nice things | 22:50 |
| map | pff | 22:50 |
| daftykins | well i say nice, but it's an iPhone | 22:51 |
| daftykins | :> | 22:51 |
| map | thousands of people break them | 22:51 |
| map | :D | 22:51 |
| map | had to put cling film on it as if you dont bit by bit the screen/glass comes off | 22:51 |
| map | id rather get it fixed soon but not gonna pay 150 which is what they want here | 22:51 |
| popey | when i broke the back of my iphone 4s I took it to the local cheapo phone shop | 22:53 |
| popey | they repaired it while I wandered round the shops | 22:53 |
| map | yea thats uk tho;p | 22:53 |
| map | its like being in a backwards country here in some aspects | 22:53 |
| popey | no cheapo crappy shops there? | 22:53 |
| map | nah | 22:53 |
| popey | I don't believe it ☻ | 22:53 |
| map | i went to the mobile shop after i went to gib telecom and got a local sim and sorted my fibre | 22:53 |
| map | honestly | 22:53 |
| map | its tiny here | 22:53 |
| map | only 30000 people remember | 22:54 |
| daftykins | the 4's are pretty nasty disassembly jobs | 22:54 |
| map | i went to the shop and asked how much for an iphon 5s to be unlocked and he says | 22:54 |
| daftykins | so many ridiculous pieces in the iPhones | 22:54 |
| map | 'what networtk' 'ee' oh thats big expensive bro' | 22:54 |
| map | he'd have said that no matter what network i said! | 22:54 |
| map | yep 5/5s is easier than the 4 | 22:54 |
| map | there's only 1 supermarket for example | 22:54 |
| map | Morrsons | 22:54 |
| map | there's small like stores but nothing big | 22:55 |
| map | no KFC even! | 22:55 |
| daftykins | heh, you can come visit Guernsey for the no fast food experience | 22:55 |
| daftykins | we have none of them | 22:55 |
| map | 3 gyms and they cost a fortune..i pay £65 a month now | 22:55 |
| daftykins | wat | 22:55 |
| map | i was paying £15 in uk for 24/7:P | 22:55 |
| map | yea | 22:55 |
| map | ocean village health club 69 a month | 22:55 |
| map | it was that or atlnatic suites halth club and spa righ by where i live for £85 a month | 22:56 |
| map | not cheap eh | 22:56 |
| map | there's only 1 ISP..gib telecom./...1 mobile network | 22:56 |
| popey | blimey | 22:56 |
| popey | dark ages ☻ | 22:56 |
| map | cigarettes are dirt cheap as are spirits but yet lager/cider is a joke | 22:56 |
| map | 4 cans of strongbow which is cheap rubbish as everyone knows for 6.50 | 22:56 |
| map | a bottle of JD 1 litre is like 12 quid | 22:56 |
| popey | GBP over there? | 22:56 |
| daftykins | that's how Guernsey used to be! | 22:56 |
| map | well GIB gibraltar pounds | 22:57 |
| map | BUT | 22:57 |
| map | its 1:1 | 22:57 |
| daftykins | now we have 3 telcos | 22:57 |
| popey | k | 22:57 |
| map | BUT nowhere in UK takes gip and banks wont change them | 22:57 |
| daftykins | and ours has gotten better than Jerseys :O | 22:57 |
| map | so before i leave have to make sure i have no local money | 22:57 |
| map | im still not sure what il do | 22:57 |
| map | the pays making me tempted to stay | 22:57 |
| map | almost £4k a month after tax | 22:57 |
| map | but...it's a bit boring here ;) | 22:58 |
| map | national insurance is cheaper too max of 130 quid or something..minimum of like 65 | 22:58 |
| daftykins | map: same as our money then :D | 23:00 |
| daftykins | https://www.dropbox.com/s/q0g7gvk0l9z3zr3/IMG_20141125_212247.jpg?dl=0 | 23:00 |
| map | whats it called there | 23:00 |
| daftykins | the pound, lawl | 23:00 |
| daftykins | still GBP | 23:00 |
| map | oi | 23:00 |
| map | oh uk | 23:00 |
| map | not like gip | 23:00 |
| daftykins | yeah, we can actually spend it at some ports and stuff | 23:01 |
| daftykins | like i paid for a train ticket in Southampton airport station once :D | 23:01 |
| map | so its not uk notes then? | 23:01 |
| daftykins | can't see the pic above? | 23:01 |
| map | ah sec | 23:01 |
| daftykins | we have green £1 notes too | 23:02 |
| map | haha cool | 23:02 |
| daftykins | i miss our money when going to England, get weighed down by all your silly coins :P | 23:02 |
| map | its strange here tho | 23:03 |
| map | property is mad expensive as its so small | 23:03 |
| map | 2 bed flats like 500k | 23:03 |
| map | penthouses for like 1-1.5 million | 23:03 |
| daftykins | *nod* | 23:03 |
| map | i was told locals dont live in these ripoff flats its just people who've come there to work | 23:03 |
| daftykins | similar here | 23:03 |
| map | mugs like me | 23:03 |
| map | we pay £1600 a month | 23:04 |
| daftykins | they might have local and open market like here | 23:04 |
| daftykins | yeah sounds about similar | 23:04 |
| map | so cheaper for local? | 23:04 |
| daftykins | yip | 23:04 |
| map | aha | 23:04 |
| map | yea | 23:04 |
| map | no way they could afford it else | 23:04 |
| daftykins | local homes for local people - we'll have no trouble here! | 23:04 |
| map | avcerage was is 27k | 23:04 |
| map | 27k wont pay 1600 rent a month | 23:04 |
| map | hopefully get a payrise in april then thatll be on my new salary after my payrise for coming here | 23:05 |
| map | more monies! | 23:05 |
| map | still paying council tax in the uk...which sucks | 23:05 |
| daftykins | ;/ | 23:05 |
| map | a lot of british here | 23:06 |
| map | but it's odd as i said before | 23:06 |
| daftykins | that's a point - we have some ATMs that give english notes and most do local notes | 23:06 |
| daftykins | so you can kinda prepare for going on holiday :D | 23:06 |
| map | british peole come here..and work but live in La Linea as they say its too expensive to live in gib | 23:06 |
| bigcalm | Woohoo | 23:06 |
| map | so why come here? | 23:06 |
| bigcalm | The openvpn service is now running on my router | 23:06 |
| map | yea the ATms here do euro or pounds (some do anyway) | 23:06 |
| map | nice! | 23:06 |
| daftykins | here as in England? | 23:07 |
| bigcalm | Glad upgrading the thing was worth while | 23:07 |
| map | nah in gibraltar bigcalm | 23:07 |
| daftykins | upgrades are always good ;) | 23:07 |
| christel | upgrading the thing is always worthwhile. | 23:07 |
| map | wonder if i could flash my router this gib telecom tecnicolour thing? | 23:07 |
| daftykins | christel: ^5 | 23:07 |
| christel | ;) | 23:07 |
| * christel ^5s | 23:07 | |
| map | can i daftykins | 23:09 |
| daftykins | map: nope, no firmware updates even for mine | 23:09 |
| daftykins | but why would you want to? nothing to gain by it | 23:09 |
| bigcalm | I got my VPN working, woo! | 23:10 |
| * bigcalm raises his glass of chillian red wine to christel | 23:11 | |
| map | well that sucks daftykins | 23:12 |
| daftykins | map: you don't mean about your low speeds i hope ;) | 23:12 |
| map | that super sucks | 23:12 |
| map | i did email them..no reply of course | 23:12 |
| map | but they said id be billed 5th or 15th cant remember and theyd create an ac using my email markaplant@icloud....still had no email and no bill in post | 23:13 |
| map | im just gonna leave it | 23:13 |
| map | not had an electric bill either..i was told it's monthly..yet ive had 2 water bills! | 23:13 |
| map | 42£ for water this month..seems a bit much | 23:13 |
| bigcalm | Now that I have a VPN, how do I route all traffic via it? | 23:14 |
| map | push-redirect def1 | 23:15 |
| map | i think | 23:15 |
| map | sec | 23:15 |
| map | yea | 23:17 |
| map | push "redirect-gateway def1" | 23:17 |
| map | in server conf | 23:17 |
| bigcalm | What's def1? | 23:17 |
| daftykins | change your default gateway, no? | 23:18 |
| map | use the flag to override default gateway | 23:18 |
| map | yep | 23:18 |
| popey | weren't you going out map? ☻ | 23:19 |
| christel | bigcalm: CLINK CLINK | 23:19 |
| christel | i made an early escape from the pub as there were dead birds there and guns! | 23:20 |
| christel | it was most surreal | 23:20 |
| map | yes in a bit popey | 23:20 |
| daftykins | dead... birds and guns 0o | 23:20 |
| christel | daftykins: indeed! | 23:20 |
| christel | https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10440923_10152847259305937_7561874077003593926_n.jpg?oh=9c475101959bd0058af1d513e55337b2&oe=55085210&__gda__=1427072837_581e725598be4661192209eed5ae73a8 | 23:21 |
| daftykins | christel: is that 'cause you're in the cun'ry? | 23:21 |
| christel | my local is very special! | 23:21 |
| map | waiting for phne to reach 100 | 23:21 |
| map | ;D | 23:21 |
| christel | daftykins: yup! ;) | 23:21 |
| daftykins | O_O | 23:21 |
| map | country eh | 23:21 |
| map | somerset! | 23:21 |
| christel | hunt on today so there was 18 very drunk lads with their guns in the pub and they kept wandering around hanging their pheasants everywhere | 23:21 |
| christel | map: somerset indeed! ;) | 23:21 |
| map | not been that part of the country or years | 23:21 |
| map | too much effort getting home | 23:21 |
| map | ]been to Pilton | 23:22 |
| map | which is in somerset | 23:22 |
| daftykins | christel: have you heard the one about the pheasant plucker? | 23:22 |
| map | never really been around somerset much..just get there..spend 5 days on worthy farm...get home;] | 23:22 |
| christel | daftykins: i have not! :P | 23:22 |
| daftykins | :D best ask hubby | 23:22 |
| popey | map: where you based in the uk? | 23:23 |
| map | for work? | 23:23 |
| map | Stoke | 23:23 |
| popey | ah ok | 23:23 |
| map | but not there anymore | 23:23 |
| christel | map: we moved down here a few months ago (used to live in surrey, not far from AlanBell, popey, czajkowski, theopensourcer, etc.) -- so i appear to have swapped fellowminded geeks for chew valley countryside and dead birds ... | 23:23 |
| popey | right | 23:23 |
| map | not going back for a while | 23:23 |
| map | going back to UK in january but going to heathrow and then to my dads in Bisley | 23:24 |
| map | just up the road from you ;] | 23:24 |
| map | still toying with staying here 12 months min..poss 2-3 years | 23:24 |
| map | hahah nice | 23:24 |
| map | where in surrey christel ? | 23:24 |
| map | i lived in Bisley for years near woking..or camberly other way | 23:25 |
| popey | yeah, we had a company do at bisley ranges once | 23:25 |
| map | I can't afford a house in Surrey never will be able to! prices are a joke | 23:25 |
| christel | i lived in farnham and then later in hindhead before we headed to the west country :) | 23:25 |
| map | if yoiu know where Bisley is the big factory the house next door sold their front garden and ther'es like 4/5 houses there now..1s up for sale for 670k;[ | 23:26 |
| map | christel, i imagine somerset is like gibraltar in a way..after 10pm noone around not much to do? | 23:26 |
| christel | WELL ... that is probably pretty accurate for where i live, my village has a population of 105 (supposedly) -- quite a high proportion of those are ... fairly old | 23:28 |
| map | like where worthy farm is..its MILES FROM ANYTHING | 23:28 |
| map | cba going to glastonbury these days anyway so no reason to go to that part of the country :) | 23:28 |
| map | big ripoff... £250 ticketds..£5 for a beer..£8 for a garbage burger | 23:28 |
| christel | oh, it's not too shabby -- it takes me about 20 minutes to bristol or bath :) | 23:29 |
| map | and all under the guise of 'charity' and 'water aid' and greenpeace ..and capitalisms bad..like they had posters up ANTI HSBC and then Michael Eavis pays himself £200k? | 23:29 |
| christel | it's a little countryside gem nicely tucked away but within acceptable travelling distance to bustling city life i guess :) | 23:29 |
| map | maybe for retirement but id be bored there;p | 23:30 |
| map | i seriously dont get how people buy into the rubbish glastonbury peddle | 23:30 |
| christel | mmm the main fundraiser that the PTA at my son's school does is a stint of glastonbury volunteering each year :) | 23:30 |
| map | greenpeace oxfa..wateraid | 23:30 |
| map | exactly | 23:30 |
| map | people volunteer | 23:30 |
| map | meanwhile michael gets like 200k his daughters FULLTIME job is oragnising the festival and her husband gets paid too | 23:30 |
| map | but then they say capitalisms bad? so why is it ok they pay themselves such huge sums | 23:31 |
| map | and £8 for a crap tesco value burger ...sounds like ripoff capitalism to me | 23:31 |
| map | honestly dont get it..you see what i mean? are people just thick? | 23:32 |
| map | anti capitalism..yet they take credit card payments there etc | 23:32 |
| bigcalm | Okay, routing all traffic via the VPN doesn't work properly right now. Think I'll leave it as is for now :) | 23:49 |
| map | whats happening | 23:49 |
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| bigcalm | Traffic is just timing out | 23:58 |
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