[00:03] <daftykins> *nod*
[00:08] <bigcalm> I'm trying to get an openvpn connection working from my hotel connection to my openwrt router at home. Is there a way to work out why it's not connecting?
[00:10] <bigcalm> This is from syslog on my laptop: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9290346/
[00:12] <daftykins> bigcalm: wouldn't an SSH proxy be enough?
[00:12] <daftykins> it says no verification methods enabled
[00:12] <daftykins> seems serious to me
[00:12] <intrbiz> bigcalm: try setting verb 4
[00:12] <intrbiz> to get verbose logging
[00:12] <intrbiz> (chris has spent most of this week build OpenVPN servers for people)
[00:13] <bigcalm> Oops, I hadn't finished setting up the server on openwrt
[00:14] <intrbiz> usually OpenVPN not connecting is caused by: mismatched cipher / HMAC
[00:14] <daftykins> :D
[00:15] <bigcalm> daftykins: a proxy might be enough. But I want to get an openvpn tunnel working :D
[00:15] <daftykins> hehe
[00:15] <bigcalm> Following: http://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/howto/vpn.openvpn
[00:16] <intrbiz> bigcalm: have you generated all the certs you need?
[00:16] <bigcalm> intrbiz: yes
[00:18] <intrbiz> bigcalm: this is my server config: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9290415/
[00:22] <bigcalm> intrbiz: might be needed later. Ta
[00:43] <bigcalm> Grumble, the tun0 interface is nt being brought up
[00:43] <bigcalm> Maybe after 2 glasses of red isn't the best time to do this
[00:44] <intrbiz> bigcalm: client config is along the lines of: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9290713/
[00:45] <intrbiz> bigcalm: you can manually create the tun interface
[00:45] <intrbiz> remember you also need to add firewall rules for the tun interface
[00:46] <bigcalm> Unless it's not meant to exist
[00:47] <bigcalm> I meant on the server, unless it's not meant to exist
[00:47] <intrbiz> the tun inteface can persistently exist without causing any issues
[00:48] <bigcalm> `ifconfig | grep tun0` on the openwrt router returns nothing
[00:48] <intrbiz> the persist-tun option will stop tell openvpn to persistently create the tun interface
[00:48] <bigcalm> root@router:/etc/easy-rsa/keys#   ps -w | grep openvpn
[00:48] <bigcalm> 21214 root      1372 S    grep openvpn
[00:48] <bigcalm> root@router:/etc/easy-rsa/keys#
[00:49] <intrbiz> what does ifconfig tun0 give?
[00:49] <bigcalm> ifconfig: tun0: error fetching interface information: Device not found
[00:50] <intrbiz> is openvpn running?
[00:51] <intrbiz> you can run it manually on the command line for testing with: openvpn --verb 4 --config /etc/...conf
[00:52] <intrbiz> and on your client select the 'use only for resources on this connection' option in network manager under addresses -> routes to avoid redirecting the deafult gateway and breaking existing connections
[00:53] <bigcalm> I've just managed to spill my wine
[00:53] <bigcalm> I think I need to stop
[00:54] <intrbiz> oops
[00:56] <ali1234> alberto strikes again?
[00:57] <ali1234> popey: alberto is like the exact opposite of chris penalver
[01:00] <diddledan> err. price?! http://www.microcenter.com/product/439773/TW70CA17_Tablet_-_Black
[01:00] <diddledan> I know it's windoop, but still
[01:02] <diddledan> heh, you gotta go in-store.. in americaland
[01:02] <ali1234> quad core intel in a tablet?
[01:02] <ali1234> and only 1GB of ram? why?
[01:02] <diddledan> it's an atom, but yeah an intel
[01:06] <popey> i quite like my hudle
[01:07] <popey> can't type hudl, muscle memory won't let me
[01:07] <ali1234> would you say you like to HODL your hudl?
[01:07] <popey> Yes, yes I would.
[01:07] <popey> I'd quite hudleable
[01:07] <ali1234> those new asus transformers are quite nice
[01:08] <ali1234> very thin
[01:08] <ali1234> actually usable as a tablet...
[01:08] <popey> just a shame the hudle will in all likelyhood never get a software update
[01:08] <popey> link?
[01:08] <popey> have you tried a nexus 7 2013?
[01:08] <ali1234> no
[01:08] <popey> they're pretty decent enough
[01:09] <ali1234> http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/laptops-netbooks/ipad-tablets-and-ereaders/tablets/asus-transformer-book-t100-10-1-touchscreen-2-in-1-32-gb-dark-grey-21765509-pdt.html
[01:09] <ali1234> i think it's that one
[01:09] <popey> check tha bezel
[01:09] <popey> asus also known for not providing sw updates
[01:09] <ali1234> well you're not going to get edge to edge display for that price :)
[01:10] <popey> sure
[01:10] <popey> hudl beats it
[01:10] <popey> easily
[01:10] <popey> on that single criteria
[01:10] <ali1234> yeah but it isn't a laptop transformer
[01:10] <popey> sure
[01:11] <ali1234> asus transformer is just a normal PC, so no problems installing ubuntu on it
[01:11] <ali1234> assuming there's drivers
[01:12] <popey> interesting
[01:13] <popey> the transformer TF101 was the first tablet we had ubuntu touch on
[01:13] <popey> a very early version
[01:13] <ali1234> the first ones were a bit clunky i think
[01:13] <popey> yeah
[01:13] <popey> i still have one
[01:14] <ali1234> but the new ones are really nice. the docking thing works well. it's tidy, but doesn't fell like it's going to fall apart
[01:14] <popey> not tegra, all intel?
[01:14] <ali1234> they have models with intel and arm
[01:15] <ali1234> not sure exactly which one i used, but it was intel
[01:16] <mjayk> popey: the tegra ones are the old ones the new ones are intel
[01:17] <popey> k
[01:17] <mjayk> oh ali1234 you might be right htey might still make arm ones - I've just only seen the new intel ones
[01:17] <ali1234> they still have an ARM model on their website
[01:17] <ali1234> tf303?
[01:17] <mjayk> tf300 is the one i was thinking out was the 303 a typo or is that a new model
[01:18] <ali1234> new model i guess. it wasn't a typo
[01:18] <mjayk> i had xubuntu on the tf300 and it was surprisingly ok
[01:58] <mjayk> lscpu
[06:56] <markp> hi all
[10:02] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[10:22] <foobarry> so many problems with chromecast :(
[10:39] <Nathan__> how do you change to andother directory in the terminal
[10:42] <zmoylan-pi> cd <directory>
[10:43] <zmoylan-pi> and tab auto completes names of directories to save time
[10:43] <zmoylan-pi> usually
[11:57] <popey> foobarry: like?
[15:33] <twager> Anyone tell me how to open a JScript file ?
[15:34] <brobostigon> use a text editor maybe. like gedit?
[15:35] <twager> Will not open it..
[15:36] <brobostigon> geany?
[15:37] <brobostigon> whats the error you get when you try and open it?
[15:37] <twager> Nothing in Linux seems to work..I even installed win7 on the laptop but that will not open it either
[15:38] <twager> I do not get an error it just sits looking at me :-{
[15:43] <foobarry> popey:chromecast rebooting, falling off a stable wifi, cannot play music from music.google.com anoymore, etc etc
[16:28] <p42phone> T-Mobile seems to be struggling in manc city centre
[16:30] <p42phone> Ssh latency is a couple of seconds, web browsing just isn't working
[17:33] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[17:34] <daftykins> heya
[17:39] <penguin42> hey bigcalm
[17:40] <bigcalm> o
[17:40] <bigcalm> o/
[17:53] <popey> Morning!
[17:54]  * popey plays with mobile game adverts
[17:55] <penguin42> inserting them?
[17:56] <popey> yeah
[17:57] <penguin42> anything entertaining you can do?
[17:57] <popey> well, just trying to see how they fit and react on ubuntu phone
[17:57] <popey> also http://uk.camelcamelcamel.com/Dell-U2913WM-Widescreen-2560x1080-DisplayPort/product/B00ADHLSMO
[17:59] <penguin42> that's quite nice; although some of the (bad) 4k monitors are down to that price
[18:20] <daftykins> nice looking haswell ultrabook Lenovo Yoga 2 for £650 odd - but they refuse to ship  to the Channel Islands :(
[18:23] <zmoylan-pi> they're afraid it'll get wet
[18:24] <daftykins> :)
[18:51] <ali1234> how do i use this ubuntu developer tools center then?
[20:19] <map> hi all
[21:45] <penguin42> heck, Dell are selling Makerbot 3d printers
[21:48] <daftykins> :o
[21:49] <zmoylan-pi> so common they even have one on iss
[22:06] <map> dont see what id need a 3d printer for:)
[22:15] <zmoylan-pi> printing your bigger 3d printer
[22:26] <bigcalm> openwrt - can I ony use the version listed in the hardware table, or is it an indication of what is known to work? I have a WNDR3700 with a Atheros AR7161 CPU. Currently it's running 10.0.3.1. Do you think I can run the latest (14.07) on it?
[22:26] <bigcalm> popey: ping
[22:27] <popey> I'm running a fairly recent one on mine
[22:27] <popey> thanks to MartijnVdS talking me through some bits
[22:28] <bigcalm> popey: did you upgrade from one release to the next or jump 1 or 2?
[22:28] <popey> i didnt upgrade
[22:28] <popey> i flashed a new version
[22:28] <bigcalm> popey: can you ssh into the router and cat /proc/cpuinfo for me please?
[22:28] <popey> i didnt think there was an 'upgrade' as such
[22:28] <bigcalm> Ah, fair enough :)
[22:28] <popey> just trying to now
[22:28] <bigcalm> Ta
[22:29] <popey>  BARRIER BREAKER (Barrier Breaker, r43276)
[22:29] <popey> thats the version of OpenWRT I have
[22:30] <popey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9305717/
[22:30] <popey> thats cpuinfo
[22:30] <bigcalm> Okay, newer than Backfire that's on my wndr3700
[22:31] <bigcalm> Yay same hardware as mine
[22:31] <bigcalm> I'll try installing 14.07 :D
[22:32] <bigcalm> I'm actually going to try a remote sysupgrade
[22:32] <bigcalm> Living on the edge and all that
[22:33] <daftykins> D:
[22:33] <bigcalm> Keeping myself occupied while at the hotel bar
[22:33] <daftykins> this isn't one of your VPN endpoints is it 0o
[22:33] <bigcalm> Red wine fuelling me
[22:33] <bigcalm> daftykins: I haven't managed to get the VPN working on the router yet. Hence wanting to try the latest revision of openwrt
[22:35] <daftykins> oic
[22:36] <bigcalm> Hotel free wifi is iffy, using Liverpool's 4g instead
[22:36] <bigcalm> I may drop off soon!
[22:38] <popey> i wouldn't do it remotely
[22:38] <popey> MartijnVdS ended up building me a special version which allowed me to use the higher wifi channels ☻
[22:39] <map> where you going?
[22:39] <map> hotel wifi often sucks
[22:40] <map> in latvia i could only get wifi in one place in the whl
[22:40] <map> whole apartment:(
[22:40]  * bigcalm looks about
[22:40] <bigcalm> It worked :D
[22:40] <bigcalm> I've reconnected
[22:40] <daftykins> it's to remind you you should be out and about, not on the computer!
[22:40] <map> pfff
[22:41] <map> we needed it for directions
[22:41] <map> :D
[22:41] <bigcalm> Wow, this version of the web ui looks quite different
[22:41] <map> altho we still ended up a the wrong stadium heh
[22:42] <popey> web ui?
[22:43] <bigcalm> popey: load the router's IP address in your web browser
[22:43] <popey> nothing
[22:44] <popey> i didnt install a web ui
[22:44] <bigcalm> popey: unless you were being facetious and I can't tell because of the wine :)
[22:44] <bigcalm> Oh, it came as standard I though
[22:44] <popey> nah
[22:44] <bigcalm> LuCI
[22:44] <popey> eh?
[22:46] <bigcalm> The name of the web ui
[22:46] <popey> oh
[22:46] <popey> ah, opkg install luci
[22:46] <popey> ☻
[22:47] <popey> i had no idea there even was a web ui for openwrt
[22:48] <popey> \o/ installed
[22:49] <map> time to go into spain :d hope it doesnt rain
[22:49] <daftykins> pff rain never hurt anyone ;)
[22:49] <map> had to put cling film around my iphone...dropped it yesterday
[22:49] <map> screen broke of course
[22:49] <map> first time ive dropped it:(
[22:49] <map> 3rd screen ive broken
[22:49] <map> 4s/5 and now a 5s :[
[22:50] <map> gonna get my dad to fix it when i go back..no point asking here..when i enquired about getting my phone unlocked they wanted £90...ee do it for 20 i just had to wait
[22:50] <daftykins> map: this is why you can't have nice things
[22:50] <map> pff
[22:51] <daftykins> well i say nice, but it's an iPhone
[22:51] <daftykins> :>
[22:51] <map> thousands of people break them
[22:51] <map> :D
[22:51] <map> had to put cling film on it as if you dont bit by bit the screen/glass comes off
[22:51] <map> id rather get it fixed soon but not gonna pay 150 which is what they want here
[22:53] <popey> when i broke the back of my iphone 4s I took it to the local cheapo phone shop
[22:53] <popey> they repaired it while I wandered round the shops
[22:53] <map> yea thats uk tho;p
[22:53] <map> its like being in a backwards country here in some aspects
[22:53] <popey> no cheapo crappy shops there?
[22:53] <map> nah
[22:53] <popey> I don't believe it ☻
[22:53] <map> i went to the mobile shop after i went to gib telecom and got a local sim and sorted my fibre
[22:53] <map> honestly
[22:53] <map> its tiny here
[22:54] <map> only 30000 people remember
[22:54] <daftykins> the 4's are pretty nasty disassembly jobs
[22:54] <map> i went to the shop and asked how much for an iphon 5s to be unlocked and he says
[22:54] <daftykins> so many ridiculous pieces in the iPhones
[22:54] <map> 'what networtk' 'ee' oh thats big expensive bro'
[22:54] <map> he'd have said that no matter what network i said!
[22:54] <map> yep 5/5s is easier than the 4
[22:54] <map> there's only 1 supermarket for example
[22:54] <map> Morrsons
[22:55] <map> there's small like stores but nothing big
[22:55] <map> no KFC even!
[22:55] <daftykins> heh, you can come visit Guernsey for the no fast food experience
[22:55] <daftykins> we have none of them
[22:55] <map> 3 gyms and they cost a fortune..i pay £65 a month now
[22:55] <daftykins> wat
[22:55] <map> i was paying £15 in uk for 24/7:P
[22:55] <map> yea
[22:55] <map> ocean village health club 69 a month
[22:56] <map> it was that or atlnatic suites halth club and spa righ by where i live for £85 a month
[22:56] <map> not cheap eh
[22:56] <map> there's only 1 ISP..gib telecom./...1 mobile network
[22:56] <popey> blimey
[22:56] <popey> dark ages ☻
[22:56] <map> cigarettes are dirt cheap as are spirits but yet lager/cider is a joke
[22:56] <map> 4 cans of strongbow which is cheap rubbish as everyone knows for 6.50
[22:56] <map> a bottle of JD 1 litre is like 12 quid
[22:56] <popey> GBP over there?
[22:56] <daftykins> that's how Guernsey used to be!
[22:57] <map> well GIB gibraltar pounds
[22:57] <map> BUT
[22:57] <map> its 1:1
[22:57] <daftykins> now we have 3 telcos
[22:57] <popey> k
[22:57] <map> BUT nowhere in UK takes gip and banks wont change them
[22:57] <daftykins> and ours has gotten better than Jerseys :O
[22:57] <map> so before i leave have to make sure i have no local money
[22:57] <map> im still not sure what il do
[22:57] <map> the pays making me tempted to stay
[22:57] <map> almost £4k a month after tax
[22:58] <map> but...it's a bit boring here ;)
[22:58] <map> national insurance is cheaper too max of 130 quid or something..minimum of like 65
[23:00] <daftykins> map: same as our money then :D
[23:00] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/q0g7gvk0l9z3zr3/IMG_20141125_212247.jpg?dl=0
[23:00] <map> whats it called there
[23:00] <daftykins> the pound, lawl
[23:00] <daftykins> still GBP
[23:00] <map> oi
[23:00] <map> oh uk
[23:00] <map> not like gip
[23:01] <daftykins> yeah, we can actually spend it at some ports and stuff
[23:01] <daftykins> like i paid for a train ticket in Southampton airport station once :D
[23:01] <map> so its not uk notes then?
[23:01] <daftykins> can't see the pic above?
[23:01] <map> ah sec
[23:02] <daftykins> we have green £1 notes too
[23:02] <map> haha cool
[23:02] <daftykins> i miss our money when going to England, get weighed down by all your silly coins :P
[23:03] <map> its strange here tho
[23:03] <map> property is mad expensive as its so small
[23:03] <map> 2 bed flats like 500k
[23:03] <map> penthouses for like 1-1.5 million
[23:03] <daftykins> *nod*
[23:03] <map> i was told locals dont live in these ripoff flats its just people who've come there to work
[23:03] <daftykins> similar here
[23:03] <map> mugs like me
[23:04] <map> we pay £1600 a month
[23:04] <daftykins> they might have local and open market like here
[23:04] <daftykins> yeah sounds about similar
[23:04] <map> so cheaper for local?
[23:04] <daftykins> yip
[23:04] <map> aha
[23:04] <map> yea
[23:04] <map> no way they could afford it else
[23:04] <daftykins> local homes for local people - we'll have no trouble here!
[23:04] <map> avcerage was is 27k
[23:04] <map> 27k wont pay 1600 rent a month
[23:05] <map> hopefully get a payrise in april then thatll be on my new salary after my payrise for coming here
[23:05] <map> more monies!
[23:05] <map> still paying council tax in the uk...which sucks
[23:05] <daftykins> ;/
[23:06] <map> a lot of british here
[23:06] <map> but it's odd as i said before
[23:06] <daftykins> that's a point - we have some ATMs that give english notes and most do local notes
[23:06] <daftykins> so you can kinda prepare for going on holiday :D
[23:06] <map> british peole come here..and work but live in La Linea as they say its too expensive to live in gib
[23:06] <bigcalm> Woohoo
[23:06] <map> so why come here?
[23:06] <bigcalm> The openvpn service is now running on my router
[23:06] <map> yea the ATms here do euro or pounds (some do anyway)
[23:06] <map> nice!
[23:07] <daftykins> here as in England?
[23:07] <bigcalm> Glad upgrading the thing was worth while
[23:07] <map> nah in gibraltar bigcalm
[23:07] <daftykins> upgrades are always good ;)
[23:07] <christel> upgrading the thing is always worthwhile.
[23:07] <map> wonder if i could flash my router this gib telecom tecnicolour thing?
[23:07] <daftykins> christel: ^5
[23:07] <christel> ;)
[23:07]  * christel ^5s
[23:09] <map> can i daftykins
[23:09] <daftykins> map: nope, no firmware updates even for mine
[23:09] <daftykins> but why would you want to? nothing to gain by it
[23:10] <bigcalm> I got my VPN working, woo!
[23:11]  * bigcalm raises his glass of chillian red wine to christel
[23:12] <map> well that sucks daftykins
[23:12] <daftykins> map: you don't mean about your low speeds i hope ;)
[23:12] <map> that super sucks
[23:12] <map> i did email them..no reply of course
[23:13] <map> but they said id be billed 5th or 15th cant remember and theyd create an ac using my email markaplant@icloud....still had no email and no bill in post
[23:13] <map> im just gonna leave it
[23:13] <map> not had an electric bill either..i was told it's monthly..yet ive had 2 water bills!
[23:13] <map> 42£ for water this month..seems a bit much
[23:14] <bigcalm> Now that I have a VPN, how do I route all traffic via it?
[23:15] <map> push-redirect def1
[23:15] <map> i think
[23:15] <map> sec
[23:17] <map> yea
[23:17] <map> push "redirect-gateway def1"
[23:17] <map> in server conf
[23:17] <bigcalm> What's def1?
[23:18] <daftykins> change your default gateway, no?
[23:18] <map> use the flag to override default gateway
[23:18] <map> yep
[23:19] <popey> weren't you going out map? ☻
[23:19] <christel> bigcalm: CLINK CLINK
[23:20] <christel> i made an early escape from the pub as there were dead birds there and guns!
[23:20] <christel> it was most surreal
[23:20] <map> yes in a bit popey
[23:20] <daftykins> dead... birds and guns 0o
[23:20] <christel> daftykins: indeed!
[23:21] <christel> https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10440923_10152847259305937_7561874077003593926_n.jpg?oh=9c475101959bd0058af1d513e55337b2&oe=55085210&__gda__=1427072837_581e725598be4661192209eed5ae73a8
[23:21] <daftykins> christel: is that 'cause you're in the cun'ry?
[23:21] <christel> my local is very special!
[23:21] <map> waiting for phne to reach 100
[23:21] <map> ;D
[23:21] <christel> daftykins: yup! ;)
[23:21] <daftykins> O_O
[23:21] <map> country eh
[23:21] <map> somerset!
[23:21] <christel> hunt on today so there was 18 very drunk lads with their guns in the pub and they kept wandering around hanging their pheasants everywhere
[23:21] <christel> map: somerset indeed! ;)
[23:21] <map> not been that part of the country or years
[23:21] <map> too much effort getting home
[23:22] <map> ]been to Pilton
[23:22] <map> which is in somerset
[23:22] <daftykins> christel: have you heard the one about the pheasant plucker?
[23:22] <map> never really been around somerset much..just get there..spend 5 days on worthy farm...get home;]
[23:22] <christel> daftykins: i have not! :P
[23:22] <daftykins> :D best ask hubby
[23:23] <popey> map: where you based in the uk?
[23:23] <map> for work?
[23:23] <map> Stoke
[23:23] <popey> ah ok
[23:23] <map> but not there anymore
[23:23] <christel> map: we moved down here a few months ago (used to live in surrey, not far from AlanBell, popey, czajkowski, theopensourcer, etc.) -- so i appear to have swapped fellowminded geeks for chew valley countryside and dead birds ...
[23:23] <popey> right
[23:23] <map> not going back for a while
[23:24] <map> going back to UK in january but going to heathrow and then to my dads in Bisley
[23:24] <map> just up the road from you ;]
[23:24] <map> still toying with staying here 12 months min..poss 2-3 years
[23:24] <map> hahah nice
[23:24] <map> where in surrey christel ?
[23:25] <map> i lived in Bisley for years near woking..or camberly other way
[23:25] <popey> yeah, we had a company do at bisley ranges once
[23:25] <map> I can't afford a house in Surrey never will be able to! prices are a joke
[23:25] <christel> i lived in farnham and then later in hindhead before we headed to the west country :)
[23:26] <map> if yoiu know where Bisley is the big factory the house next door sold their front garden and ther'es like 4/5 houses there now..1s up for sale for 670k;[
[23:26] <map> christel, i imagine somerset is like gibraltar in a way..after 10pm noone around not much to do?
[23:28] <christel> WELL ... that is probably pretty accurate for where i live, my village has a population of 105 (supposedly) -- quite a high proportion of those are ... fairly old
[23:28] <map> like where worthy farm is..its MILES FROM ANYTHING
[23:28] <map> cba going to glastonbury these days anyway so no reason to go to that part of the country :)
[23:28] <map> big ripoff... £250 ticketds..£5 for a beer..£8 for a garbage burger
[23:29] <christel> oh, it's not too shabby -- it takes me about 20 minutes to bristol or bath :)
[23:29] <map> and all under the guise of 'charity' and 'water aid' and greenpeace ..and capitalisms bad..like they had posters up ANTI HSBC and then Michael Eavis pays himself £200k?
[23:29] <christel> it's a little countryside gem nicely tucked away but within acceptable travelling distance to bustling city life i guess :)
[23:30] <map> maybe for retirement but id be bored there;p
[23:30] <map> i seriously dont get how people buy into the rubbish glastonbury peddle
[23:30] <christel> mmm the main fundraiser that the PTA at my son's school does is a stint of glastonbury volunteering each year :)
[23:30] <map> greenpeace oxfa..wateraid
[23:30] <map> exactly
[23:30] <map> people volunteer
[23:30] <map> meanwhile michael gets like 200k his daughters FULLTIME job is oragnising the festival and her husband gets paid too
[23:31] <map> but then they say capitalisms bad? so why is it ok they pay themselves such huge sums
[23:31] <map> and £8 for a crap tesco value burger ...sounds like ripoff capitalism to me
[23:32] <map> honestly dont get it..you see what i mean? are people just thick?
[23:32] <map> anti capitalism..yet they take credit card payments there etc
[23:49] <bigcalm> Okay, routing all traffic via the VPN doesn't work properly right now. Think I'll leave it as is for now :)
[23:49] <map> whats happening
[23:58] <bigcalm> Traffic is just timing out
[23:58] <bigcalm> traceroutes (mtr) stop at 10.8.0.1 (the tunnel)