/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/11/29/#ubuntu-za.txt

Joe_knockMaaz coffee00:39
MaazJoe_knock: coffee is liquid code00:39
Joe_knockMaaz make coffee00:39
MaazJoe_knock: *blink*00:39
Kilosmorning all05:46
Kilosmorning gremble 07:55
Kilosonly us here07:56
grembleOh good morning Kilos 08:32
Kilosstudy lad08:32
Kilosmake more fancy machines08:32
Squirmhiya10:32
Kiloshi Squirm 10:46
Kiloswbb11:54
somaunnHi guys11:59
charlgood afternoon14:07
charlMaaz: coffee on14:07
* Maaz flips the salt-timer14:07
MaazCoffee's ready for charl!14:11
charlMaaz: thanks14:29
Maazcharl: No problem14:29
inetprogood afternoon15:00
charlhi inetpro 15:20
inetprohi charl15:30
Kiloshi charl inetpro 15:37
* Kilos watches us/wales15:37
charlhi Kilos 15:37
charlhow are you doing this fine afternoon15:37
* inetpro trying to survive with just 20MB of data until the end of the month15:43
grembleI don't know if that is going to happen ;P15:44
inetproamazing how data just keeps running away in the background these days15:44
grembleUnless your data gets renewed at midnight15:44
grembleShocking how expensive data has to be15:45
inetprostarted by blocking all mobile devices on the wifi network but even that is not enough15:46
inetproprobably won't make it until tomorrow but worth looking again and turning the leaking taps off for a change15:49
inetprojust wish there was a quicker way to check how much data is left on the Telkom mobile network without loosing more data15:58
grembleCan't you use the USSD codes?15:59
gremblethey don't require data15:59
gremble*100# or *111#16:00
inetprouh... while the sim is in the router?16:00
grembleDepends on your router16:00
inetpronow there's a challenge, how would I do that on the router?16:01
grembleUsing windows, the router we had allowed us to send those codes, but it was also a telephone16:02
inetproah16:02
inetprowon't work with the B960 then16:03
grembleI still have to figure out how to get the hauwai modem to play along16:03
inetproyep this one also a huawei16:03
grembleMy cat wont let me type. He keeps trying to eat  my fingers16:04
gremblewhen I do16:04
gremble>.>16:04
inetproif you have a USB modem you should be able to do it16:05
inetprousing gsm-ussd16:05
inetprowish firefox could show me data utilisation details16:30
charldo any of you people have experience with docker ? i'm looking to use it now at work16:32
charlvery cool16:32
inetprocharl: I still need to play with it as well16:32
charli have been putting it off because i didn't have immediate need for it16:33
charlbut i want to separate some applications from each other so that if one gets exploited then the others are safe16:33
charlwithout needing to create a million different virtual machines for everything16:33
inetprogood idea16:35
Kiloseish inetpro maak reg man16:36
Kilosi think they have a topup for R3016:36
Kilos250m16:36
inetproKilos: uh?16:40
Kilosinetpro: pm16:40
inetpropm?16:41
Kilosprivate16:42
Kilosai!16:42
charlthis is good, vmware is now partering with docker16:55
charldocker seems to have great traction right now16:55
grembleIsn't docker similar to BSD-like jails?16:58
inetprogremble: very similar but they made it super easy to use16:59
inetprobut it's actually quite different as well17:01
grembleHoping to get a new laptop next year. At the moment I am considering running one of the *BSD's17:01
grembleinetpro: I haven't looked at it much and at the SFD's I've been so far, most of the talks assumed we already knew what the technologies were so the short 5min talks did not mean much17:02
Kiloscharl: explain what it does for me please17:04
Kiloswill it run say konversation in one dock and pidgin in another?17:04
grembleKilos: Have you seen those baby plates with the little holes in it for the food so that they don't touch?17:05
gremblehttp://i01.i.aliimg.com/photo/v0/10934701/Stainless_Steel_Six_Part_Compartment_Food_Tray.jpg Like that17:06
grembleIf I were to explain what docker is, it is just that. Inside each of those compartments you can run programs. Nothing can touch them and they can't touch anything else17:06
Kiloslemme see. im not sure what baby plates are17:07
grembleIt is like having many little computers inside your computer17:07
Kilosoh you mean a varkpan17:07
Kilosi gotta go eat17:08
Kiloswbb17:08
Kilosbut my apps dont interfere with each other i use kubuntu17:08
Kiloshehe17:08
Kilosbeen wanting to say that for years17:08
grembleHaha17:09
grembleIt is a lot more complicated than that17:09
inetproLinux LXC vs FreeBSD jail http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/127001/linux-lxc-vs-freebsd-jail17:13
grembleVery much the same it seems then17:19
grembleI think the technical differences are above my level of computer experise17:19
Kilosi dunno if i need something like that17:25
Kilosjust more to remember17:25
Kiloswould be good for windows users though17:25
Kiloswhat we should do is fix our wiki page so its faster before the re-evaluation17:27
grembleWe can't make the page faster17:27
Kilosthe wiki thing17:27
grembleThe person hosting it is the one that can make it faster. Not the people that edit it17:28
Kilosi wonder who that is17:29
gremblewhat is the address to the wiki?17:29
Kilosi dont know, i thought i gave it to maaz to remember but forgot what to ask the bot17:30
Kiloswas reapp or spmething17:30
gremblewiki.ubuntu.com?17:30
Kilosinetpro: said that was a stupid command17:30
gremblehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/17:30
gremble?17:30
Kilosmaybe that17:31
Kiloshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/ReApprovalApplication?action=show&redirect=ZATeam%2FApprovalApplication17:32
Kilosits not so slow17:32
Kilosworks fine here17:32
Kilosbut thats wrong, maia been contact person for years17:33
Kilosoh well17:34
grembleThat is a very old page17:35
grembleit is dated 201017:35
Kilosya i think so, i wonder where the new one is17:36
Kilosand why leave the old one there17:36
Kilosill catch neelsie when he has a day off17:36
Kilosgremble: you shouild put a testimonial there saying how happy you are to have found our community so peeps can use your brains17:44
Kiloshehe17:44
Kiloshow did you find us btw17:45
grembleBut I don't even like ubuntu :x17:45
gremblekbmonkey told me to come here because I am South African17:45
grembleSo I am here17:45
gremble:P17:45
Kiloslol17:45
Kiloskubuntu is lekker man17:46
Kiloswe cater here for many distros and flavours17:46
Kiloswe actually help all linux users only i had to do tinycorelinux on my own17:57
Kilossigh17:57
inetproKilos: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/ReVerificationApplication201418:03
Kilosty inet18:03
Kilosit opens fast18:04
inetproand it is re-reverification not re-approval 18:04
inetprooops.. 18:05
inetprore-verification 18:05
KilosMaaz: re-verification is <reply>  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/ReVerificationApplication201418:05
MaazKilos: Got it18:05
Kilosnow i have to remember that word too18:06
Kilossigh18:06
inetproMaaz: define verification18:07
Maazinetpro: Verification \Ver`i*fi*ca"tion\, n. [Cf. F. v['e]rification.] 1. The act of verifying, or the state of being verified; confirmation; authentication. [1913 Webster]  2. (Law) (a) Confirmation by evidence. (b) A formal phrase used in concluding a plea. [1913 Webster]  {Verification of an equation} (Math.), the operation of testing the equation of a problem,18:07
Maazto see whether it expresses truly the conditions of the problem. --Davies & Peck. (Math. …18:07
charlKilos: it's for servers and is quite technical to explain18:10
Kilosyay ty18:10
charlit's virtual containers, a type of virtualisation that does not involve a hypervisor18:10
charlbut unless you want to do industrial-scale hosting it's probably not of much concern18:10
Kilosi think we must ask them verification peeps to accept us now as lifelong members18:11
Kilosthis verification will take us past 10 years18:11
charl10 years ago was when i tried the first version of ubuntu (warty i think)18:12
grembleHaha http://www.linux.org.za/ that is a really uninformative website18:12
gremblexD18:12
charllinux.org.za only hosts the glug mailing list afaik18:12
charlthere's also http://www.jozilug.co.za/18:13
charlglug is an old and legendary thing, i don't even know if they still do meetings18:13
charli used to be on one of their mailing lists but it was almost dead18:14
charlthose were some of the earliest gnu/linux users in south africa i believe18:14
Kilosthey have a channel too18:14
Kilos#glug.za18:14
charlthey are the bbs type18:14
charlprobably old gray neckbeards18:15
Kilosoh my they nearly dead18:15
gremblebbs?18:15
charlyou don't know bbs ?!18:15
Kilosonly frostbyte left there18:15
grembleConsider me one of today's lucky 1000018:15
Kiloslol18:15
charlnono you don't know bbs you don't know where we come from18:16
charlknow the history18:16
charlthere is a documentary about bbs systems i watched not too long ago18:16
charland the start of defcon18:16
gremblehttps://xkcd.com/1053/18:16
charlnono, no excuses :P18:17
charli'm not letting you off this easy :P18:17
Kilosya the wiki site is sick, taking forever to login18:17
grembleIt is not about letting me off. It is about telling me instead of attacking me simply because I do not know some obscure history18:17
Kilosi go add some commas and fullstops18:17
charlgremble: calm down, i wasn't trying to offend you... sorry if it came across wrong18:18
charli don't "attack" anyone18:18
grembleI know. I am not offended. I just want you to either link information or go ahead and tell me18:19
gremble:P18:19
Kiloshaha18:19
grembleThat is why I linked the comic18:20
Kilosspinza your client is flooding irc18:20
Kilosjust now they kline you18:21
Kilosgo to #freenode and they will help you sort it18:21
spinza_sorry18:51
spinza_one of my routers eemed to have konked out in the last loadshed18:51
Kilosoh my18:51
Kilosits np for us i think its just freenode are quite strict with flooding18:52
spinza_tried a reboot then got a ton of reconnects to irc i think18:54
Kilosyou got it fixed now?18:54
Kilosohi superfly 18:54
superflyhi Kilos18:56
spinza_nope 18:56
inetprohi superfly19:06
Kilosnight all. sleep tight19:07
superflyhi inetpro19:08
superfly1 hour of loadshedding tonight, not bad, but the longest we've had.19:08
superflylast weekend we haad 5 minutes19:08
inetproeish! 19:28
* inetpro just ran out of data again... gave up and reloaded another bundle19:29
spinzapoe for my 2nd router was not working on my first, so i first think it's router 2, so format it and reinstall config21:19
spinzanada21:19
spinzathen realise it's the 1st router's poe21:20
spinzanot sure how to fix it so format and reinstall config21:20

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