[02:31] <frecel> hello
[02:32] <frecel> I have a couple of questions about the lubuntu-daily ppa
[02:33] <wxl> such as frecel ?
[02:33] <frecel> are the lxqt components there going through any modifications or is it just pure lxqt?
[02:47] <wxl> frecel: i'm not sure i understand what you mean
[02:47] <ianorlin> there is a metapackge for lxqr
[02:47] <ianorlin> lxqt
[02:47] <frecel> I know about the metapackage
[02:47] <ianorlin> and you can start from mini iso for pure lxqt
[02:48] <ianorlin> but just know you have to install software-properties-common to be able to install ppas
[02:48] <wxl> so are you asking if there's a difference from upstream frecel ?
[02:48] <ianorlin> I got stuck on that part a little
[02:48] <frecel> I'm just wondering if installing from that metapackage will give me anything different than if I were to compile from source from github
[02:48] <frecel> wxl: yes
[02:49] <ianorlin> it takes maybe 2 days changes to get into the ppa after it is on github but not much
[02:49] <wxl> frecel: well mayhap, mayhap not. there WILL be artwork components for sure that aren't on github
[02:49] <ianorlin> yeah you will get lubuntu icon stuff that is specific
[02:50] <frecel> that's what I needed to know
[02:50] <frecel> thanks
[02:50] <wxl> frecel: long story short, if you compile yourself, it will be harder to maintain and you won't get much different. there are developers both upstream and downstream working on it
[02:50] <frecel> wxl: I actually want to start contributing to lxqt so I wan't my version to be upstream
[02:51] <wxl> frecel: well the way ubuntu usually works is it develops on launchpad and push patches upstream, so upstream is not necessarily more up to date. it depends, though.
[02:51] <frecel> *want
[02:52] <frecel> I talked to agaida and he said he developes on arch
[02:55] <wxl> frecel: if you dig into the code it looks like most of the branches are imports of the upstream git
[02:56] <wxl> frecel: and then the ppa is autobuilt
[02:56] <wxl> frecel: but lxqt definitely doesn't have our artwork and default settings
[02:56] <ianorlin> yeah some openbox configs are different but easy enough to change those
[03:00] <wxl> frecel: thiss may be useful, the seed for the metapackage
[03:00] <wxl> oops forgot the link https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-dev/lxde/lxqt-metapackage/view/head:/debian/control
[03:01] <wxl> qlubuntu-default-session is probably an important one to have
[03:01] <wxl> maybe lubuntu-extra-sessions too
[03:02] <frecel> wxl: I think what I'll do is import lxqt code to launchpad in my own branch take the build recipie from the lubuntu ppa and that will solve my problem
[03:02] <wxl> what IS your problem?
[03:02] <wxl> all the theme stuff (line 73-78) you won't have either
[03:03] <frecel> My problem is that I want a daily build of the git repo and no one makes it avaliable
[03:03] <ianorlin> it is pretty easy to clone
[03:03] <ianorlin> and build
[03:03] <wxl> frecel: what i'm kind of telling you is launchpad automatically imports HEAD of git and autobuilds it
[03:04] <wxl> let's test this theory
[03:05] <frecel> but then if I update won't my  configs change to lubuntu configs?
[03:05] <wxl> http://git.lxde.org/gitweb/?p=lxde/lxpanel.git;a=summary
[03:05] <wxl> versus https://code.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-dev/lxde/lxpanel
[03:05] <frecel> it's kind of a pain when we are talking about daily updates
[03:05] <wxl> looks like it's pointing at master
[03:06] <wxl> s/master/HEAD/
[03:06] <wxl> look at the git commit http://git.lxde.org/gitweb/?p=lxde/lxpanel.git;a=commit;h=64d2d703b5e86e57d7218835e9dacee4cb3bd6a7
[03:06] <wxl> versus the one on launchpad https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-dev/lxde/lxpanel/revision/1681
[03:06] <wxl> look at the revision ID there and/or the commit message
[03:07] <wxl> same same
[03:07] <wxl> now let's look at the ppa
[03:08] <wxl> the ppa may be behind a bit https://launchpadlibrarian.net/191499813/lxpanel_0.7.2.0.1%2Bbzr1664%2B201411282102~ubuntu15.04.1_0.7.2.0.1%2Bbzr1679%2B201411292101~ubuntu15.04.1.diff.gz
[03:08] <wxl> yes 1679 not 1681
[03:09] <wxl> the recipie is built daily
[03:09] <frecel> ok I get your point
[03:10] <frecel> It probably would be better if I was doing this sober
[03:10] <wxl> hah
[03:10] <wxl> well i don't have exact timing for you in any case
[03:10] <wxl> but it looks like it could be 24-48 hours behind
[03:11] <wxl> it looks like the imports happen every 7 hours or so
[03:11] <wxl> so that's pretty fresh
[03:11] <wxl> you could just grab the debs and it would save you compilation time
[05:09] <Mulyana> !help
[05:09] <Mulyana> !patience
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[17:08] <ianorlin> hi
[17:08] <Cihan> should i use lubuntu
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[18:57] <mk2soldier> Thank you very much!
[19:33] <holstein> mk2soldier: i would just look for a theme that supports that, and looks like what you are going for.. have you tried any?
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