[00:00] <Obnoxious> EriC^^: Meh, apparently that did not work. :/
[00:01] <EriC^^> Obnoxious: did you reboot after installing them?
[00:01] <Obnoxious> Yes. Thrice, actually, because I wanted to make sure
[00:05] <Obnoxious> I am getting a lot of these Nov 29 13:32:45 pomgetslinux kernel: [   42.408317] nouveau E[   PFIFO][0000:01:00.0] SCHED_ERROR [ UNK06 ]
[00:07] <Obnoxious> Also
[00:07] <Obnoxious> kernel: [ 1658.555259] nouveau E[   PFIFO][0000:01:00.0] write fault at 0x0000219000 [PDE] from BAR1/HOST_CPU_NB on channel 0x007fd5f000 [unknown]
[00:07] <Obnoxious> after
[00:07] <Obnoxious> kernel: [ 1658.555259] nouveau E[   PFIFO][0000:01:00.0] write fault at 0x0000219000 [PDE] from BAR1/HOST_CPU_NB on channel 0x007fd5f000 [unknown]
[00:07] <Obnoxious> Eh.
[00:07]  * Obnoxious gets pastebin
[00:08] <daftykins> Obnoxious: thank you :P
[00:15] <Obnoxious> Hm, does anyone know what this means: wpa_supplicant[1646]: nl80211: send_and_recv->nl_recvmsgs failed: -33
[00:16] <Obnoxious> I know it's not relevent to my earlier issue, but it might be relevent to my shitty wifi issues(?)
[00:29] <Cryp0sis> Obnoxious: heres the link that explains the error and the fix http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2224450
[00:31] <owen1> how to install pip on 14.10?
[00:32] <owen1> how to find what package do i need in order to have pip?
[00:32] <dasjoe> owen1: try python-pip
[00:34] <owen1> dasjoe: thanks! is there a command i can run that tells me where to get pip from?
[00:34] <owen1> or a command that tells me what tools are coming with python-pip?
[00:35] <owen1> i tried aptitude show python-pip and also apt-cache show python-pip
[00:35] <Cryp0sis> https://pip.pypa.io/en/latest/
[00:36] <owen1> Cryp0sis: looks like 'sudo python get-pip.py'
[00:38] <owen1> that was not smart (:
[00:38] <owen1> i don't have get-pip.yp (;
[00:38] <dasjoe> owen1: I check http://packages.ubuntu.com ;)
[00:38] <owen1> nice!
[00:38] <dasjoe> owen1: "apt-file search pip" would've given the same answer, though
[00:40] <owen1> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=pip&mode=exactfilename&suite=utopic&arch=amd64
[00:41] <dasjoe> owen1: http://packages.ubuntu.com/utopic/all/python-pip/filelist
[00:41] <owen1> cool
[00:44] <SchrodingersScat> dasjoe: that actually didn't work for me.
[00:46] <lapion> Does anyone else get xhci aborts when reading or writing in block sizes of 16MiB to and external usb3 device ?
[00:47] <Klapo> hello guys
[00:48] <Klapo> can someone tell me, why ubuntu 14.04 us not respecting /etc/fstab /proc hidepid=2?
[00:48] <HappyNewYear13> which channel do you guys use in your Wifi?
[00:49] <lapion> HappyNewYear13, if your country permits it and all your devices accept it I would use 13..
[00:50] <HappyNewYear13> lapion, why not 27 instead?
[00:51] <icloud> hi does anyone know of a virtual fish tank software? i got a spare 42 inch tv and a spare computer, want to turn it into a fish tank, prefer to be able to virtually feed the fishes, but if not its ok
[00:51] <lapion> HappyNewYear13, in the 2.4Ghz band I'd use 13..
[00:51] <Klapo> HappyNewYear13: eee.. weird question
[00:52] <Klapo> check which are used, and choose most free channe
[00:52] <HappyNewYear13> icloud, that's so cute. it never occured to me to do that. i love fishes
[00:52] <HappyNewYear13> Klapo, did that and chose 5. but my wifi disconnects. i was on 3 not i am on 5. waiting for the disconnection now...
[00:53] <Klapo> channel doesn't matter when it comes to disconnects
[00:53] <Klapo> something else is broken
[00:53] <Klapo> maybe your ap or drivers
[00:53] <HappyNewYear13> Klapo, online documentation talked about setting your country
[00:53] <HappyNewYear13> Klapo, i was trying the easiest solutions first
[00:53] <albert> anyone know about how long check disk will take on a 500 gig drive?
[00:54] <Klapo> well country is for limiting power
[00:54] <Klapo> + sometims you can use one more channel
[00:54] <HappyNewYear13> i see
[00:54] <HappyNewYear13> Klapo, i also read about putting wifi power off. mine is off already
[00:54] <dasjoe> albert: depends on the check you run and your disk's throughput
[00:54] <Klapo> wait what?
[00:55] <HappyNewYear13> power management
[00:55] <Klapo> oh, thats good
[00:55] <HappyNewYear13> what does it mean anyways Klapo ?
[00:55] <Klapo> also disable power management for PCI Experss too
[00:56] <Klapo> well, idk.. but got some problems when it was on on my lenovo
[00:56] <bubbasaures> albert, a windows chkdsk?
[00:56] <albert> dasjoe, under disk i ran smart data and self test
[00:56] <Klapo> so I disabled it too.
[00:56] <HappyNewYear13> Klapo, lenovo! this is the one i have now. it's new
[00:56] <Klapo> also some chips are working bad when 5GHz is enabled, so check this too
[00:56] <Klapo> model?
[00:56] <albert> bubbasaures, no ubuntu
[00:56] <HappyNewYear13> G40
[00:56] <Klapo> wifi chip?
[00:56] <bubbasaures> albert, you mean a fsck?
[00:57] <albert> bubbasaures, under disks i ran SMART data and self test
[00:57] <HappyNewYear13> Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8723BE PCIe Wireless Network Adapter
[00:57] <bubbasaures> albert, Cool, just trying to get the context
[00:57] <dasjoe> albert: right, a long smart self test usually takes a few hours, the short tests only some minutes
[00:57] <Klapo> hmm... idk
[00:57] <HappyNewYear13> "also disable power management for PCI Experss too" where do i do that?
[00:58] <Klapo> HappyNewYear13: google for same issues with wifi chip name
[00:58] <Klapo> in power manag..
[00:58] <albert> bubbasaures, no problem this thing been on for an hour and still says 90%
[00:58] <Klapo> I have to go, bb and gl!
[00:58] <HappyNewYear13> Klapo, bye
[00:58] <albert> dasjoe, i chose short
[00:58] <lapion> albert, depends on what check disk program you are using and what options you added
[00:58] <bubbasaures> albert, Heh, well should finish is my guess. ;)
[00:58] <albert> lapion, didnt do anything but hit start
[00:59] <lapion> Does anyone else get xhci aborts when reading or writing in block sizes in excess of  8MiB to and external usb3 device ?
[00:59] <albert> already at 113 bad sectors
[00:59] <lapion> windows or ubuntu ?
[00:59] <bubbasaures> lapion, I think it's the smart gui in disks
[01:00] <arvut> lapion: gentoo
[01:00] <arvut> lapion: dare to think outside the box
[01:00] <albert> well this is boring waiting argg
[01:00] <lapion> arvut, if someone says chkdsk I automatically think chkdsk.exe it's specific a name
[01:00] <arvut> albert: abort and delete hdd now. buy new and reinstall
[01:00] <albert> anyone have anything fun to do on ubuntu untill this check disk finishes
[01:01] <albert> arvut, send me one
[01:01] <HappyNewYear13> bazhang
[01:02] <arvut> lapion: why would it need the .exe extension for you to know what kind of file it is? if its binary and executable then that should be enough
[01:02] <lapion> albert, you need to use a tool like badblocks to find you bad sectors and than use advanced options of hdparm to rewrite the bad sectors so the drive can reassign reserve sectors
[01:03] <albert> lapion, is that using the commands i tried earlier that i had no clue if it was doing anything in the command prompt ?
[01:03] <arvut> lapion: there are various ways to execute instructions, not just the .exe way of things. its not the .exe-way or the highway
[01:03] <dasjoe> lapion: that's not true, a smart self test will remap bad sectors
[01:04] <lapion> arvut, in linux and unix environments we tend to talk about fsck or badblock checks. and with apparent noobs we need to verify such things ...
[01:05] <odis> hey guys i am new here i need to ask smth
[01:05] <odis> how i stop the check disk at startup OS=ubuntu 14.04
[01:05] <lapion> smart doesn't allways work correctly, in my experience a manual relocation is usually the best option.
[01:05] <albert> noobs ? i ran sudo badblocks -v /dev/sda1
[01:05] <albert> didnt know if it was actually doing anything
[01:06] <lapion> not all hdd manufacturers allow relocation after certain smart values have been reached
[01:06] <odis> my hdds have many bad sectors
[01:07] <lapion> albert, use badblocks -vv and try using a blocksize of 512
[01:07] <albert> sudo badblocks -vv /dev/sda1 ?
[01:09] <lapion> sometimes if you set badblocks to use 1 block at a time and blocks sizes that are the same as sector sizes and overwrite the disk with zeroes autoreallocation does it's job and you wind up with a disk with no badblocks
[01:09] <albert> lapion, how do i implament the 512
[01:09] <lapion> however be certain badblocks have not reached thier maximum and enable bablock reallocation with hdparm
[01:09] <lapion> albert si the man
[01:10] <lapion> see
[01:10] <lapion> check the manual. man badblocks
[01:10] <albert> lapion,  uh who da man
[01:11] <lapion> unix default manual pages are da man
[01:11] <lapion> apparently not you
[01:11] <arvut> yes
[01:11] <arvut> very epic
[01:11] <arvut> so is this shoutcast
[01:11] <albert> lapion, well the -vv gave me atleast visual in command prompt
[01:12] <lapion> albert, to learn we all read somewhere how and what to do.
[01:12] <lapion> albert, most unix/linux knowledge comes form reading da man
[01:13] <albert> lapion, thats why i am here lol. where to read i have no clue
[01:13] <lapion> *from
[01:13] <lapion> just type: man badblocks
[01:13] <albert> o well im going to buy a new one
[01:13] <lapion> albert, on the command prompt
[01:13] <albert> takes to longb
[01:13] <lapion> albert, the best ides ever for people with hdds with badblocks
[01:14] <lapion> *idea
[01:14] <albert> lapion, i just installed it, it was working fine for a week
[01:15] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[01:15] <reisio> hard to imagine utilizing badblocks being a more worthwhile use of your time than obtaining a replacement hard disk
[01:15] <reisio> lotuspsychje: mornin'
[01:15] <reisio> even though it's evening! :p
[01:15] <lotuspsychje> is there a solution to connect to garmin connect with ubuntu, to update garmin device?
[01:16] <albert> well its late and i had hard time booting up and i just installed a week ago and dont even know anything to do on here yet
[01:16] <lotuspsychje> ive tryed garmin-plugin but it did not connect
[01:17] <albert> back when i first used linux i was gaming quake 2 lolo
[01:19] <daftykins> lotuspsychje: like, firmware? seriously doubt it
[01:20] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: no, its to update maps for garmin device to latest
[01:21] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: ubuntu recognizes the device as media, but cant connect to that garmin/connect website
[01:21] <daftykins> lotuspsychje: yeah even less likely
[01:21] <lapion> albert, is the data on the disk redundant?
[01:22] <lapion> albert, I mean do you have backups or can you simply erase the data ?
[01:22] <albert> lapion, there is nothing on here
[01:23] <lapion> albert, so then use the write mode of badblocks with a block size of 512
[01:23] <albert> lapion, trying to figure out how to add that command
[01:24] <lapion> albert, have you tried to type man badblocks on the commandprompt ?
[01:24] <lapion> albert,  literally "man badblocks"
[01:25] <albert> yes but its been a long time since ive ran a linux distro
[01:25] <lotuspsychje> you can try testdisk also
[01:25] <lotuspsychje> !info testdisk | albert
[01:25] <lapion> lotuspsychje, he is not trying to recover data he's trying to refurbish a hdd with badblocks
[01:26] <lotuspsychje> lapion: testdisk is to test the disk also, photorec for the data recovery
[01:26] <albert> lapion, not trying to refurbish i just dont want issues when i boot up
[01:26] <lapion> lotuspsychje, no testdisc is not to test the disk it is to find partition information
[01:26] <lotuspsychje> albert: what kind of issues do you have?
[01:27] <lapion> albert, to not have issues you need a drive that's errorfree..
[01:27] <lapion> lotuspsychje, he has badblocks
[01:27] <albert> lotuspsychje, wouldnt let me boot into gui
[01:28] <albert> sudo badblocks -vv -b 512 /dev/sda1 > bad-blocks-result is that correct ?
[01:29] <lotuspsychje> albert: what kind of error do you have
[01:29] <lapion> albert, if the drive can be zeroed just do the following: badblocks -vvwb 512 /dev/sda1 -o bad-block-results
[01:30] <lapion> albert, you have to be sure that sda1 is the disk you need to check and is erasabel
[01:30] <albert> lapion, lol ok duh
[01:30] <lapion> albert, all data of sda1 will be fully erased
[01:32] <Prezident> Is there any program so i can see facebook status in terminal?
[01:33] <lapion> however to assure you have no problems with all other areas of the disc you should do the same with the whole disc and use sda in stead of sda1 afterwards all partitions and all their data will be gone and you'll have to re-init the partition table with fdisk or gdisk if you prefer uefi usage of the drive
[01:34] <lotuspsychje> Prezident: didnt test myself, but you could try links2
[01:35] <lotuspsychje> Prezident: and a more advanced way here: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/08/use-facebook-from-command-line-with.html
[01:37] <azhumvee> looking for help running GUI verison of this - https://github.com/mikar/blockify  -  please please :D
[01:37] <OerHeks> can i play facebook games in terminal too?
[01:38] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: i doubt it, as they need flash things probably
[01:39] <lapion> lotuspsychje, there is a fbdev webbrowser that uses directfb in stead of xwindows
[01:39] <Prezident> links2 was pretty well, with -g it sucks then i can use firefox or luakit or any other browser on same thing
[01:39] <Prezident> but in terminal its nothing different then lynx for example.
[01:40] <rypervenche> OerHeks: Sure, it's called a browser :P
[01:40] <lotuspsychje> lapion: you have a packagename for OerHeks ?
[01:41] <lotuspsychje> rypervenche: :p
[01:41] <nathanas> hi there.I have a stupid question
[01:42] <lotuspsychje> nathanas: no questions are stupid mate
[01:42] <nathanas> should my server be set to my countrys local time
[01:42] <kyle__> There are no stupid quiestions, just stupid people
[01:42] <nathanas> or to the country that is physical thye server connected?
[01:42] <nathanas> it serves users that mostly are in my country
[01:43] <kyle__> nathanas: Yes and no.  The actual hardware clock on the system should be set to GMT, but the locale should be set, and that should display it in local time.
[01:43] <nathanas> i am talking about hte locale
[01:43] <wafflej0ck_> yup if you're storing dates/times just use UNIX time and GMT/UTC/Zulu to store times
[01:43] <nathanas> in my local time right?
[01:43] <wafflej0ck_> your local time for the locale should make reading logs based on the time easier
[01:43] <nathanas> ok
[01:44] <nathanas> and for the ntp configuration of the server should i do the same?
[01:44] <lotuspsychje> !time
[01:44] <nathanas> Timezones and Network Time Protocol Synchronization
[01:44] <kyle__> The time non-local users see should be in the locale for where the server is I think.  But this is a really neuanced question you're asking :)
[01:44] <wafflej0ck_> nathanas: ntp should only be adjusting the UTC time I believe
[01:45] <kyle__> nathanas: For NTP to work right, I beleive the hardware clock NEEDS to be set GMT.
[01:45] <nathanas> I am asking two questions really
[01:45] <kyle__> NTP doesn't care what the locale time setting is at all .
[01:45] <wafflej0ck_> nathanas: the locale timezone setting should be adjusting the UTC/GMT/Zulu time but if you have a locale timezone set then it should adjust for display purposes appropraitely
[01:45] <nathanas> the locale of the server should be set in my country?
[01:45] <kyle__> wafflej0ck_: Is it still called zulu anywhere?  Just curious.
[01:46] <kyle__> nathanas: Yes.
[01:46] <wafflej0ck_> nathanas: yeah for ease of translating times and looking at logs compared to your local time that should make it easier
[01:46] <wafflej0ck_> kyle__: I did some USAF work they call it Zulu
[01:46] <nathanas> i am looking at this article
[01:46] <wafflej0ck_> kyle__: and timezones were a huge problem
[01:46] <nathanas> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/additional-recommended-steps-for-new-centos-7-servers
[01:47] <wafflej0ck_> kyle__: according to the military everything is supposed to be stored in Zulu time but unfortunately that was not the case
[01:47] <kyle__> wafflej0ck_: I can only imagine.  ugh.  It's bad enough with users just in the US through the UK....
[01:48] <kyle__> wafflej0ck_: I thought some OSes and linux distros only stored in GMT...
[01:48] <wafflej0ck_> yeah we were aggregating data from multiple systems and sometimes they were Zulu/UTC/GMT and sometimes they were stored in local time (in the database)
[01:48] <wafflej0ck_> made for a great nightmare
[01:48] <kyle__> plan9 I think....
[01:48] <nathanas> When you find the region/timezone setting that is correct for your server, set it by typing:
[01:48] <nathanas> sudo timedatectl set-timezone region/timezone
[01:48] <nathanas> i am trying centos
[01:48] <kyle__> And the sysadmins wept, and the auditors laughed at their pain.
[01:48] <nathanas> but i use to connect to this room
[01:49] <Hulio> hi guys
[01:50] <Hulio> is ubuntu already have sftp server installed?
[01:50] <Hulio> basically i want to be able to do sftp
[01:50] <Hulio> anyone?
[01:50] <wafflej0ck_> Hulio: no you can use vsftp but it's not super easy to configure and it's not really super secure from what I understand
[01:50] <wafflej0ck_> Hulio: scp tends to be a lot easier and secure
[01:50] <Hulio> i thought ubuntu is built in?
[01:51] <Hulio> i remember i did awhile ago
[01:51] <wafflej0ck_> Hulio: vsftp is in the repos but not installed by default I'm pretty sure
[01:51] <kyle__> Hulio: there is an sftp server built into openssh, so if you're using the openssh server (the default in ubuntu), it supports sftp.
[01:51] <nimbiotics> Using ubuntu 14.
[01:51] <nimbiotics> sorry
[01:51] <nathanas> I cant resolve the issue here
[01:52] <nathanas> I need to achieve time & NTP sync
[01:52] <Hulio> i thought install opens ?
[01:52] <Hulio> open ssh
[01:52] <lotuspsychje> !ftp | Hulio
[01:52] <kyle__> Hulio: Although, there is a known bug in it (still), where the transfer rate is much lower than with scp.
[01:52] <nathanas> but timezone should be set in servers zone
[01:52] <nathanas> because i think services are going to check the time with systems nearby
[01:52] <Hulio> lotuspsychje, no third party please...ithought i used to do install open ssh thing
[01:53] <Hulio> why would i need third party software?
[01:53] <nathanas> so if I set my servers to my local (users zone)
[01:53] <nathanas> then i willhave correvt time but i won't know if ntp & timezone sync works
[01:53] <lotuspsychje> Hulio: see the !ftpd trigger
[01:53] <nathanas> what do you think is best?
[01:53] <nathanas> i know i am asking something silly
[01:53] <daftykins> Hulio: you're talking about SFTP as in the SSH variety, sure - just install openssh-server then your client can hit port 22.
[01:53] <wafflej0ck_> Hulio: it isn't third party software it's still coming from the Ubuntu repos where the rest of your packages for the OS came from just some packages are installed by default since everyone uses them and others aren't
[01:54] <nathanas> but i need to know every single setting I am changing in my distro
[01:54] <nathanas> *vps
[01:54] <Hulio> i see
[01:54] <nimbiotics> Using ubuntu 14.04, I had a USB headset that stopped working, apparently because battery got damaged. But now I do now have audio at all. I pasted the results of the "ALSA Information Script" to http://paste.ubuntu.com/9307668/, but I can't understand whats in there. Is there a way to reinstall all audio system from scratch? If so: How? TIA!
[01:54] <lotuspsychje> !sound | nimbiotics
[01:56] <nimbiotics> lotuspsychje: checking ... Thanks!
[01:56] <wafflej0ck_> Hulio: personally I setup vsftp but didn't like the limitations imposed by it and found it difficult to configure, since I wanted continuous integration and deployment I ended up just setting up Jenkins on my server to watch for changes to the git repo, pull them, build, and deploy so it all just happens on the server via a git commit/push as the trigger to build/deploy.... it's definitely some setup but Jenkins is pretty nice and
[01:56] <wafflej0ck_> glad to have it now, no messing with FTP/scp directly
[01:57] <wafflej0ck_> for opening the server to others who won't be working with Git though I still understand the need
[01:57] <Hulio> i dont understand
[01:57] <daftykins> i think this lot are talking about ftps
[01:58] <daftykins> without quite knowing it
[01:58] <Hulio> i use to never do or use the vssftp thing
[01:58] <Hulio> all i do is opens
[01:58] <Hulio> open ssh
[01:58] <daftykins> yeah, so install openssh-server and job done
[01:58] <lotuspsychje> Hulio: whats your end goal exactly?
[01:59] <lotuspsychje> Hulio: you want file transfers from where to where?
[02:00] <nathanas> so i am asking again
[02:00] <nathanas> i need to setup ntp synchronization to my server
[02:01] <daftykins> why
[02:01] <nathanas> so i need to set the timezone
[02:01] <nathanas> the server is in another zone than the user is
[02:01] <nathanas> what should i choose? local user timezone or server timezone?
[02:02] <dasjoe> nathanas: ntp doesn't care about timezones
[02:02] <nathanas> does ntp synchronization checks and compares time by delivering packages to the servers near your server"?
[02:04] <daftykins> i don't see how time is hugely relevant
[02:04] <dasjoe> It can do that, yes. But that doesn't matter, as it's syncing using UTC, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_Time_Protocol
[02:05] <kyle__> nathanas: Is ntp not running?  Or is it running, and you don't think it's getting time?
[02:05] <wafflej0ck_> nathanas: you can configure what servers ntpd is using I don't believe it will automatically choose the nearest server, but the drift should be minimal using ntpd
[02:05] <kyle__> run the command, 'ntpq -p', and you'll see the current status of the ntp system.
[02:05] <wafflej0ck_> nathanas: you can use date, or date -u (for utc) to see the current setting without the -u it will use your locale to adjust the time shown (internally it is still the UTC time)
[02:06] <isthisreallife> hey
[02:06] <isthisreallife> im trying to create bootable usb using winusb
[02:06] <isthisreallife> and i get this error:
[02:06] <wafflej0ck_> nathanas: UNIX Time is seconds since Jan 1st 1970 UTC and is how the system sees the time really
[02:06] <isthisreallife> http://pastie.org/9751451
[02:06] <isthisreallife> how to fix it?
[02:07] <wafflej0ck_> nathanas: on 32 bit systems it will run out of seconds in Jan 2038
[02:07] <wafflej0ck_> fun fact
[02:07] <nathanas> i know about ntp
[02:07] <nathanas> i have used it in arduino invoronment
[02:08] <nathanas> and i got seconds so i could make calculations to get the current time
[02:08] <l0rdn1x> wafflej0ck_, rofl are you serious post some links
[02:08] <kyle__> wafflej0ck_: Fun fact, nothing existed before Jan 1st of 1970.
[02:08] <wafflej0ck_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJQ691PTKsA
[02:08] <wafflej0ck_> heh
[02:09] <l0rdn1x> rofl
[02:10] <lotuspsychje> isthisreallife: you could try a clean erase with gparted first maybe, then retry winusb
[02:11] <isthisreallife> you mean format to ntfs using gparted?
[02:11] <lotuspsychje> isthisreallife: another nice package is multisystem
[02:11] <isthisreallife> it didnt help
[02:12] <serapath> hi
[02:12] <serapath> i tried to upgrade my kernel to 3.17.4 and it gives me a coupe of error messages that look similar to this one: ERROR: sil: invalid metadata checksum in area 2 on /dev/dm-1
[02:12] <lotuspsychje> isthisreallife: never had such error on winusb myself, not sure what it means
[02:13] <serapath> what does that mean?
[02:13] <serapath> i tried the update, because my virtualbox doesnt work and a forum suggested a kernel update
[02:13] <lotuspsychje> isthisreallife: what kind of usb stick are you trying?
[02:13] <serapath> on #linux they told me i should ask here, because this message is not supposed to show up and they said it might have something to do with ubuntu specific stuff
[02:14] <lotuspsychje> !kernel | serapath
[02:14] <serapath> lotuspsychje: what does that mean? i used kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ stuff
[02:15] <serapath> was that wrong?
[02:15] <daftykins> serapath: bad parity check on a RAID volume from a silicon image SATA controller by the sounds of it
[02:15] <serapath> i think i did the same last time and it worked when i upgraded to 3.17.0
[02:15] <daftykins> if things are working you shouldn't change kernel.
[02:15] <daftykins> much less use the mainline ones
[02:16] <serapath> daftykins: what does that mean? hmm... which shold i use? i only did it because the forum suggested to me that a kernel update would fix my issues with virtualbox
[02:16] <daftykins> serapath: are you not aware whether you're using a RAID volume or not?
[02:16] <serapath> daftykins: so things are not working and to load an image with virtualbox is currently really important to me, because i urgently need some data stored on one
[02:17] <daftykins> one step at a time, if you please.
[02:17] <serapath> daftykins: i do not thing so. i have only one hard drive in my laptop and just installed linux mint with default settings
[02:17] <serapath> its an 250gb ssd hard drive
[02:17] <daftykins> !mint
[02:17] <daftykins> sorry, we don't support Mint in here.
[02:17] <serapath> ok thx
[02:18] <azhumvee> rephrasing my question..   can someone tell me what type of install this would be in linux so i can research how to do it myself?   tarball?  https://github.com/mikar/blockify
[02:19] <daftykins> azhumvee: no, it's got the instructions right there - installing from git.
[02:19] <sonda> hi i am on virtual lubuntu
[02:19] <serapath> could someone tell me if that error message is something important at all? everything seems kind of to work, but i'm afraid of restarting my computer now
[02:19] <lotuspsychje> !git | azhumvee
[02:19] <daftykins> serapath: i already said what it was
[02:19] <wafflej0ck_> azhumvee: no a "tarball" is typically a file with a tar.gz extension, tar is "tape archive" gz is "gzipped"
[02:19] <isthisreallife> lotuspsychje i have 16gb verbatim usb drive
[02:19] <sonda> can any one help me recover a corruped sd card
[02:19] <isthisreallife> is that what you meant?
[02:20] <sonda> windows didn't help
[02:20] <wafflej0ck_> azhumvee: have you used Git?
[02:20] <lotuspsychje> isthisreallife: this is a stick?
[02:20] <daftykins> sonda: i think we spoke about this earlier today, how far did you get with seeing the card in diskmgmt.msc or diskpart ?
[02:20] <lotuspsychje> !info testdisk | sonda
[02:20] <isthisreallife> yes
[02:20] <azhumvee> wafflej0ck_:  no but i installed it.. and cloned what i want to my system..  now i have a variety of .py files that wont open.. tried python whatever.py
[02:20] <lotuspsychje> isthisreallife: maybe check your syslogs for errors on that stick?
[02:20] <sonda> windows channel didn't help me
[02:20] <serapath> daftykins: thx, could you phrase it more not technical? is my hard drive broken?
[02:21] <lotuspsychje> sonda: sudo photorec your sdcard
[02:21] <wafflej0ck_> azhumvee: also this is using pip which is a a program for getting python dependencies and installing a program (basically packages for python https://wiki.python.org/moin/CheeseShopTutorial) but just follow the instruction in the README after you cloned the git repo
[02:21] <lotuspsychje> isthisreallife: you have another stick you could try?
[02:21] <daftykins> serapath: so, less technical. can you share a "dmesg | pastebinit" ?
[02:22] <sonda> just hold on
[02:22] <lotuspsychje> isthisreallife: try also that multisystem package, and drag your win iso to it
[02:22] <Hilikus> when i do "find . -iname init" i get results like /foo/init, /bar/init, this/that/init.  how can i make it so that only this/that/init is found?? i tried grepping but for some reason it doesn't work
[02:22] <azhumvee> wafflej0ck_:  thx ill give it another stab
[02:22] <wafflej0ck_> azhumvee: yeah pretty sure you can sudo apt-get install pip
[02:22] <isthisreallife> nope
[02:22] <wafflej0ck_> azhumvee: but only used it a few times myself
[02:22] <isthisreallife> ill try multisystem
[02:22] <daftykins> sonda: right but you didn't answer my suggestions.
[02:22] <wafflej0ck_> azhumvee: so you know at your own risk yada yada yada
[02:23] <azhumvee> wafflej0ck_:  nod - thanks
[02:23] <serapath> http://pastebin.com/i3dH9JVm
[02:23] <lotuspsychje> isthisreallife: i only tested ubuntu iso's, not sure win will work (didnt test myself)
[02:23] <Vivekananda_y510> hey everyone . Can I encrypt the bios itself ?
[02:24] <serapath> daftykins: btw, thx
[02:24] <wafflej0ck_> Vivekananda_y510: probably not but most BIOSes provide an option for password lock from changes
[02:24] <Vivekananda_y510> wafflej0ck_, I need a definitive answer
[02:24] <lotuspsychje> Vivekananda_y510: maybe the ##hardware guys can provide more info on that
[02:24] <wafflej0ck_> Vivekananda_y510: the BIOS is on a CMOS chip typically so it's not on the HD to be encrypted
[02:24] <introom> hi
[02:24] <Vivekananda_y510> okay on the hardware guys then
[02:25] <introom> how can I see my mutt settings?
[02:25] <wafflej0ck_> Vivekananda_y510: you would need to check the CMOS chip manufacturer specs to see if it does any encryption on the chip
[02:25] <introom> like, I'd like to see the "send_charset"
[02:25] <wafflej0ck_> Vivekananda_y510: never heard of it but it might exist
[02:25] <Vivekananda_y510> wafflej0ck_, okay but I am just talking about generally available commercial encryption software
[02:26] <wafflej0ck_> Vivekananda_y510: right that stuff doesn't work on the CMOS/firmware chips and stuff on the board it only works for data on the HDD
[02:26] <sonda> which one daftykins
[02:26] <wafflej0ck_> Vivekananda_y510: so that's not gonna do it
[02:26] <daftykins> serapath: where did you see the previously mentioned error?
[02:26] <daftykins> sonda: both, did diskmgmt.msc show up the card? did diskpart?
[02:26] <sonda> i think i forgot your suggestions
[02:26] <sonda> even diskpart says no media
[02:26] <daftykins> sonda: so you haven't tried them at all and yet come back in here? bit cheeky
[02:27] <daftykins> your disk is toast then
[02:27] <lotuspsychje> lol
[02:27] <daftykins> *card
[02:27] <serapath> during the "in progress output" after i issued the command: sudo -s dpkg -i linux-headers-3.17.4*.deb linux-image-3.17.4*.deb
[02:27] <wafflej0ck_> Vivekananda_y510: you can pull the HDD out and still get to the BIOS (and the encryption software lives on the HDD) you see the problem here?
[02:27] <wafflej0ck_> Vivekananda_y510: typically the password locking is good enough
[02:27] <wafflej0ck_> Vivekananda_y510: someone would have to extract the CMOS chip from the board and read the data off of it
[02:27] <daftykins> serapath: hmm maybe irrelevant. anyway you're using Mint so you'll need to go chat to those fine people on the other network
[02:27] <sonda> how can it get corrupt..i have done no physical damage
[02:28] <sonda> only i tried parttioning it in android phone
[02:28] <lotuspsychje> sonda: check your syslogs or dmesg, sd might be dead as daftykins suggested
[02:28] <sonda> and TWRP messed it up
[02:28] <daftykins> lotuspsychje: worst part is lubuntu is a VM, not even the host OS =|
[02:29] <lotuspsychje> sonda: and try testdisk and gparted, if it doesnt show there its dead
[02:29] <pepperbiffen> VM is a gift to the ppl
[02:29] <lotuspsychje> sonda: could be a problem with the sdcard controller aswell, so check your logs
[02:30] <daftykins> sonda: plug it in so "dmesg | tail" shows it appear again, then try a "sudo parted -l | pastebinit" after that.
[02:30] <wafflej0ck_> Vivekananda_y510: there are hardware encryption solutions impelmented in some devices like encrypted USB drives but I've never heard of an encrypted CMOS (I don't doubt this is something at the high end of the government but it's not consumer grade or even commercial grade stuff it's gotta be custom made I imagine)
[02:30] <sonda> http://pastebin.com/SqFhcLXR
[02:31] <daftykins> Vivekananda_y510: off topic, go chat to ##hardware
[02:31] <timvisher-xubunt> is there a way to disbale light locker when flash is full screen in chrome?
[02:31] <serapath_> the linux mint help channel doesnt seem very frequented.
[02:31] <pepperbiffen> rubberducky from nsa
[02:31] <serapath_> maybe just one question: do you think i can restart my computer without a not properly installed kernel will trip me over
[02:31] <serapath_> can i undo and switch back to the old kernel? (3.17.0)  or maybe it did not yet switch to 3.17.4 because the process stopped with an error message?
[02:31] <daftykins> serapath_: sorry, no support for Mint. at all.
[02:31] <serapath_> ok
[02:31] <serapath_> thx anyway
[02:31] <daftykins> you did join their network yes?
[02:32] <daftykins> irc.spotchat.org
[02:32] <daftykins> their channel - it's not here on freenode
[02:32] <SonikkuAmerica> !mint | serapath_
[02:32] <daftykins> sonda: waiting for the other one
[02:32] <lotuspsychje> serapath_: you could make your life easy and install ubuntu 14.04
[02:32] <sonda> http://pastebin.com/EA5k2Q38
[02:33] <daftykins> sonda: and "sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit"
[02:33] <serapath_> i think i might do that next time, but currently it doesnt help me. but thx... is there another channel? because the suggested channel above is pretty empty
[02:33] <lotuspsychje> sonda: you sure your sdcard is not locked right?
[02:33] <daftykins> serapath_: i think you joined the channel on freenode instead of on the *other* server.
[02:33] <serapath_> oh ok. i see
[02:34] <lotuspsychje> serapath_: only takes 30min to install ubuntu will help alot!
[02:34]  * daftykins facepalms
[02:34] <lotuspsychje> lol
[02:34] <m4db0y> 야
[02:34] <serapath_> oh oops, sry for that
[02:34] <sonda> http://pastebin.com/Sui7E6bU
[02:34] <serapath_> lotuspsychje: can i install it just over mint with no problem?
[02:34] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | daftykins here some force
[02:34] <serapath_> i  mean, so that i wont lose my data
[02:35] <pepperbiffen> use VM as you should regard this as a potent enemy infection
[02:35] <lotuspsychje> serapath_: its reccomended you install ubuntu fresh
[02:35] <serapath_> ok
[02:35] <serapath_> thx
[02:35] <wafflej0ck_> serapath_: always make a backup
[02:35] <sonda> how do i know if its locked
[02:35] <serapath_> i'll try that maybe tomorrow
[02:35] <daftykins> sonda: yep no sdb showing up, she's dead, jim.
[02:35] <serapath_> :-)
[02:35] <m4db0y> XD i just solved black rock screen problem by completely ad-hoc method lock and immediately enter tty mode
[02:35] <daftykins> sonda: assuming your cardreader even functions in VMs
[02:35] <lotuspsychje> sonda: check the little slide on sdcard itself
[02:35] <daftykins> lotuspsychje: i hope these have alcohol in
[02:36] <lotuspsychje> !yay | m4db0y
[02:36] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: :p
[02:36] <pepperbiffen> alcohol is a must to get this done!
[02:36] <sonda> shall i put a different sdcard and see
[02:37] <daftykins> pepperbiffen: please keep your comments to yourself, either ask a support question or go chat in #ubuntu-offtopic . you are helping nobody.
[02:37] <lotuspsychje> sonda: be creative and test yes
[02:37] <pepperbiffen> dip in 60% alcohol first, then let it dry for 3-4 years ;)
[02:38] <pepperbiffen> sorry
[02:38] <pepperbiffen> ill behave
[02:38] <daftykins> pepperbiffen: leave.
[02:40] <Prezident> Is there any webbrowser in terminal what handled java?
[02:40] <Prezident> I dont want gui
[02:41] <l0rdn1x> Prezident, I don't think so....
[02:41] <Prezident> Alright.
[02:41] <Prezident> Pretty boring, if they could fix that we didnt need gui..
[02:41] <lotuspsychje> Prezident: links2 is nice, but dont think it handles java
[02:41] <Prezident> link2, luakit etc are really awesome ... but would be better if they could in termina, wich they are able to. But without images.
[02:42] <Prezident> lotuspsychje: sure, but then you need gui to browse pics
[02:42] <lotuspsychje> Prezident: your on a server?
[02:42] <Prezident> no, desktop
[02:42] <Prezident> but wanna remove gnome, just need a great browswer to make my needs filled. but seems like there is no goood options yet
[02:42] <Prezident> So has to live with crap gui
[02:43] <lotuspsychje> Prezident: so your trapped in a GUI enviroment :p
[02:43] <wafflej0ck_> Prezident: you can certainly get a more minimal GUI that supports browsers
[02:43] <l0rdn1x> Prezident, try openbox
[02:43] <wafflej0ck_> Prezident: personnaly like Gnome but different strokes for different folks, perhaps Awesome or TWM or something would be nice
[02:44] <Prezident> Well i could live without gui with my bots for ircs, bitlbee for weechat etc, just need something for facebook
[02:44] <Prezident> fbcmd not are good enough, so there must be a workaround for webbrowsing..
[02:45] <Prezident> Any1?
[02:45] <Prezident> facebook chat = bitlbee.. facebook status = ??
[02:45] <lotuspsychje> lapion had a suggestion about a browser earlier..not sure if he's here still
[02:46] <timvisher-xubunt> should this patch be in 14.04 or do i need to do something special to install it? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xdg-utils/+bug/1309744
[02:46] <lotuspsychje> Prezident: there are some Fb packages that can check messages in software centre, but they are GUI also
[02:46] <Prezident> lotuspsychje: what did he type, i cant scroll that much
[02:47] <lotuspsychje> !logs | Prezident
[02:48] <lotuspsychje> Prezident: as l0rdn1x and wafflej0ck_ suggested you can try minimal window managers and use terminal and simple browser from there
[02:49] <lotuspsychje> Prezident: as you dont want all the *bling
[02:49] <Prezident> yeh, thats what i am doing now.
[02:50] <Prezident> guess i has to live with it until there will be a nice feature..
[02:50] <sonda> hey if i put another sd card it shows up as /dev/sdb1
[02:50] <lotuspsychje> Prezident: maybe the #ubuntu-server guys might also know another browser?
[02:50] <sonda> so its confirmed that the old sd card is dead
[02:51] <sonda> or any way to recover
[02:51] <wafflej0ck_> sonda: did someone already have you use, lsblk
[02:51] <lotuspsychje> sonda: not possible to recover media you can see
[02:51] <daftykins> sonda: bin it.
[02:51] <lotuspsychje> cant
[02:51] <daftykins> sonda: i'd like at this point to point out i came to this conclusion earlier today. smug mode engaged.
[02:52] <sonda> i couldn't get you daftykins .. smug mode??
[02:52] <lotuspsychje> sonda: did you have the sd card data on another media once?
[02:52] <sonda> yes
[02:52] <lotuspsychje> where?
[02:52] <daftykins> sonda: don't worry, pleased with being right :>
[02:53] <sonda> i haven't used lsblk wafflej0ck_
[02:53] <sonda> some posts i saw they tell use dd to create new device
[02:53] <sonda> i am scared to do it
[02:53] <lotuspsychje> sonda: on wich media did you have the sdcard data on?
[02:54] <Prezident> lotuspsychje: will ask, im idle there, thanks!
[02:54] <lotuspsychje> np
[02:54] <kevin__> l
[02:54] <sonda> no i don't have backup
[02:54] <wafflej0ck_> sonda: lsblk should list block devices including any mount points it won't really modify anything
[02:54] <sonda> and i am not interested in recovering data
[02:55] <sonda> i just want to format it
[02:55] <wafflej0ck_> sonda: dd is used to copy block by block from one device to another that's where you can destroy things
[02:55] <wafflej0ck_> sonda: if lsblk doesn't see the device though I'm pretty sure nothing else will let you partition and format it
[02:55] <lotuspsychje> sonda: thats the end of the story then :p
[02:56] <sonda> its not allowing to format also
[02:56] <sonda> whats the command just lsblk?
[02:56] <wafflej0ck_> yup
[02:56] <daftykins> fellow users, the card is dead - please allow us to get on with the grieving process and mourn briefly
[02:57] <wafflej0ck_> sonda: lspci (for pci devices) lsusb (for usb devices) lsblk (for block devices) ls for file listings
[02:57] <lotuspsychje> lets carry on
[02:57] <wafflej0ck_> yup seems like it
[02:58] <sonda> lsblk doesn't list it
[02:59] <sonda> can i not create from dd using if=/dev/zero?
[02:59] <Ben64> if it doesn't show up in lsblk, it's dead
[02:59] <wafflej0ck_> sonda: nope no where to point it to
[02:59] <wafflej0ck_> sonda: it's dead
[02:59] <lotuspsychje> sonda: plz stop asking support for a dead sd
[03:00] <Ben64> sonda: if it wasn't stuck in your computer it'd be pushing up daisies, it is an  ex-SD, it has ceased to be
[03:01] <sonda> ok thank you all
[03:01] <wafflej0ck_> oh yeah lsmod and lshw I left out of the list... are there others I should know about? ways to list things about the system
[03:02] <malgorath> besides surfing and email, what do you guys use *nix for? I'm looking for something to do with myself
[03:03] <wafflej0ck_> malgorath: web development is mostly what I do
[03:03] <wafflej0ck_> malgorath: you could explore Blender too it's fun for learning 3D modelling if you're into visual art stuff (it does a lot more too)
[03:03] <malgorath> wafflej0ck_: Thats pretty much the way of the future huh?
[03:03] <wafflej0ck_> malgorath: it seems so
[03:03] <malgorath> wafflej0ck_: I have the artistic skill of a stone
[03:03] <wafflej0ck_> malgorath: but there are "bridges" for GTK and Qt to and things to be run in the browser
[03:04] <lotuspsychje> malgorath: you can use ubuntu for any interest
[03:04] <daftykins> Ben64: XD
[03:05] <sonda> which ubuntu is good for personal use
[03:05] <pavimob> how do i install docker apps ?
[03:05] <lotuspsychje> pavimob: conky or docky are nice
[03:06] <wafflej0ck_> lotuspsychje: think they mean Docker.io not docks
[03:06] <lotuspsychje> sonda: define personal use
[03:06] <lotuspsychje> oh right
[03:06] <wafflej0ck_> lotuspsychje: unfortunately I don't know about docker apps really
[03:06] <lotuspsychje> me neither
[03:07] <lotuspsychje> sonda: you can use ubuntu server for personal use also..so all versions from topic are for personal use
[03:08] <lotuspsychje> sonda: finding best version for you, is up to your own needs
[03:08] <sonda> its better to install separately than via virtual box right?
[03:09] <lotuspsychje> sonda: if you want a daily use of ubuntu, you can install
[03:09] <lotuspsychje> sonda: what is it you want exactly?
[03:10] <sonda> i mean is there a difference in using it via virtualbox or separate
[03:10] <sonda> i want to learn linux
[03:10] <wafflej0ck_> sonda: for learning VBox is fine
[03:10] <wafflej0ck_> sonda: performance wise it will be better as a native/dual boot or by itself install
[03:10] <sonda> i want to be like one of you :)
[03:10] <lotuspsychje> sonda: you cant, you are yourself :p
[03:11] <lotuspsychje> sonda: best way is to experiment your own way
[03:11] <wafflej0ck_> sonda: eh I just "dog-fooded" it, just use it as my every day driver and learn more that way, and lurking the chat here
[03:11] <pgnome> my release info shows no new release - but my xserver version is still at 1.15 ??!?
[03:11] <pgnome> can anyone help?
[03:11] <Guest2108> ello
[03:11] <Guest2108> --help
[03:11] <timvisher-xubunt> both light-locker and xscreensaver don't seem to be deactivated
[03:11] <pgnome> I upgraded the nvidia driver - it didn't go smooth...probably because of that?
[03:12] <pgnome> I have 346.16 now
[03:12] <wafflej0ck_> sonda: started off with Ubuntu in VBox though too and eventually went dual boot then switched to Windows in a VBox and Ubuntu as the base system (so just slowly switched over, over time)
[03:12] <pgnome> but, I am not sure how to upgrade xserver ver....
[03:12] <Guest2108> So how do I change my nick on here?
[03:12] <lotuspsychje> Guest2108: type /nick nickhere
[03:12] <Ben64> Guest2108: /nick newnick      ....... if you have other questions about IRC, ask them in #freenode
[03:12] <daftykins> pgnome: you don't
[03:13] <pgnome> ?
[03:13] <pgnome> but, it is should be at 1.16?
[03:13] <sonda> wafflej0ck_, so ubuntu is powerful
[03:13] <Guest2108> Well I tried that command and nothing, so I'll go figure it out. Thanks though!
[03:13] <daftykins> pgnome: "cat /etc/issue"
[03:14] <sonda> performance wise windows sucks right?
[03:14] <sunee> hi
[03:14] <wafflej0ck_> sonda: yeah it's a nice distribution especially for those relatively new to Linux, pretty large community and lots of solutions on Ubuntu forms, the trick is to always look with your version number included so you get new/relevant information, performance wise Linux tends to be better than Windows but it is in part about what you install and how you configure the system
[03:15] <wafflej0ck_> sonda: typically windows loads lots of extra stuff to deal with common cases for users (or things like superfetch that index data in the background for the search) that can be resource intensive
[03:15] <pgnome> cat /etc/issue
[03:15] <pgnome> Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l
[03:15] <daftykins> so yeah, nothing newer if that's a proper install.
[03:16] <sonda> can i install ubuntu on a 8gb card
[03:16] <daftykins> OSs don't belong on SD cards
[03:16] <sonda> and boot it from there whenever i want to
[03:17] <wafflej0ck_> sonda: the Flash drive or SD card installs are fine for some basics but you can't really install much cause you'll eat up that storage pretty quick, that said if a computer boots off of USB it gives you a way to have some basic tools anywhere
[03:19] <sunee> i am having problem runing code:bloocks what should i do ?
[03:19] <wafflej0ck_> sonda: I have a 128GB SSD drive and find myself strapped for space sometimes but it's mostly Android Developer Tools (10.6 GB) then a couple Steam games (6.5GB) and my /var/www for web dev stuff is pretty big due to node modules so that's around 6GB too
[03:20] <sonda> waw
[03:20] <wafflej0ck_> it's actually not too bad right now I'm using 60GB
[03:21] <wafflej0ck_> but I do have to watch it if I'm transferring/editing videos and things like that
[03:21] <wafflej0ck_> and keep the games to a minimum on here :)
[03:22] <sonda> whats is LTS?
[03:22] <wafflej0ck_> SSDs have gotten relatively cheap though so I may upgrade it soon (and move this SSD into my desktop since using a HDD for the OS has now become unbearable)
[03:23] <wafflej0ck_> sonda: long term support
[03:23] <wafflej0ck_> sonda: !lts
[03:23] <wafflej0ck_> !lts | sonda
[03:23] <sonda> oh
[03:23] <wafflej0ck_> sonda: if you google Ubunt LTS they have a nice chart to show you when they will shut down the repos and stop releasing security updates
[03:23] <wafflej0ck_> Ubuntu*
[03:23] <Prezident> !lts | prezi
[03:24] <Prezident> !help
[03:24] <Prezident> !patience
[03:24] <wafflej0ck_> Prezident: you can PM ubottu as well to keep the chat cleaner if you aren't directing it at someone
[03:25] <_crypto_> exit
[03:25] <Prezident> Sorry, willd o.
[03:25] <Prezident> will do
[03:25] <pgnome> 14.10 was released...why won't my system upgrade to it?
[03:25] <daftykins> !upgrade
[03:25] <daftykins> pgnome: must be running the wrong thing
[03:25] <wafflej0ck_> pgnome: it isn't an LTS release I don't think it asks unless you check a box to upgrade regardless
[03:26] <sonda> qt is for gui development right?
[03:26] <wafflej0ck_> pgnome: or manually trigger it
[03:26] <wafflej0ck_> sonda: yeah it's for making GUIs that are cross platform compatible
[03:26] <wafflej0ck_> sonda: uses C++
[03:26] <wafflej0ck_> sonda: er is a C++ library rather
[03:26] <wafflej0ck_> sonda: think it uses some JSON syntax for the layout as well but I'm only vaguely familiar with it, would like to dig in more one of these days
[03:28] <pgnome> $ sudo do-release-upgrade
[03:28] <pgnome> Checking for a new Ubuntu release
[03:28] <pgnome> No new release found
[03:28] <pgnome> ?!?
[03:28] <daftykins> yes, stil not running it right
[03:29] <daftykins> pgnome: read the above first link.
[03:29] <Prezident> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get safe-upgrade ALT dist-upgrade
[03:29] <Prezident> enjoy!
[03:29] <wafflej0ck_> pgnome: why exactly are you upgrading too? you may want to reconsider since 14.04 is LTS
[03:29] <daftykins> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UtopicUpgrades
[03:30] <daftykins> i also agree with wafflej0ck_ here, upgrading to 14.10 is a bad idea.
[03:30] <Prezident> yes
[03:30] <wafflej0ck_> pgnome: unless you are doing some testing or need something in 14.10 you'll be forced to upgrade earlier by moving up to 14.10
[03:30] <Prezident> I agree to.. 3 vs 0:)
[03:31] <Prezident> This sudo apt-get safe-upgrade solve your problem pgnome ?
[03:31] <Prezident> did*
[03:31] <pgnome> I didn't do it yet
[03:31] <Prezident> Ok
[03:31] <pgnome> I'm just reading your msgs :)
[03:31] <pgnome> thanks, Prez
[03:31] <Prezident> np
[03:31] <daftykins> pgnome: in future follow links given
[03:32] <pgnome> what links?
[03:32] <Prezident> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UtopicUpgrades <- 2mins ago.
[03:32] <pgnome> okay, just making sure
[03:32] <Sith_Lord> i ran into some libpcap issues on 14.10. only god know how many other issues lurk in the darkness
[03:32] <pgnome> bookmarked
[03:32] <daftykins> pgnome: and earlier, the upgrade ones where i typed !upgrade
[03:33] <pgnome> I usually just re-install
[03:33] <Prezident> Sith_Lord: explain your problem i will help you.
[03:33] <pgnome> !upgrade
[03:33] <pgnome> ok
[03:33] <Prezident> else i recommend #ubuntu-offtopic for OT!
[03:34] <pgnome> my nvidia driver was upgraded... will I run into probs with the older xorg version?
[03:34] <Prezident> Doubt that pgnome
[03:34] <Tinkerlad> o/
[03:34] <wafflej0ck_> pgnome: yeah typically everyone is looking at supporting LTS versions more then the .10 versions in particular
[03:34] <pgnome> hope not :(
[03:34] <Prezident> The only way to find out is to try out, be sure you are using backups, but thats common sense.
[03:34] <Sith_Lord> well i installed the pf_ring package which comes with a copy of tcpdump-4.1.1. whan compiled with pf_ring, sniffing an interface with tcpdump crashes the system. UBRUPTLY. no logs
[03:35] <pgnome> wafflej0ck_, ok
[03:35] <wafflej0ck_> pgnome: using the Additional Hardware panel instead of installing yourself helps too to keep it easier to change back if things go wrong
[03:35] <Prezident> Hey Tinkerlad, whats on your mind? :)
[03:35] <Sith_Lord> i am currently unable to get this to function on 14.10
[03:35] <Sith_Lord> only thing i can think of is the libpcap version between 14.01 and 14.10 jumpoed from 1.5 to 1.6
[03:36] <Sith_Lord> 14.04* to 14.10
[03:36] <wafflej0ck_> Sith_Lord: anything meaningful from dmesg ?
[03:36] <Tinkerlad> Im just joining in, just starting to look at ubuntu..... Have a fair bit of experience with linux but never used a ubuntu based system before..
[03:36] <wafflej0ck_> Sith_Lord: you may also want to try #ubuntu-devel I believe (someone correct me here if I'm wrong)
[03:36] <Sith_Lord> wafflej0ck_: the crsh was so immediate that there was no logs
[03:37] <Prezident> If you wanna chat about ubuntu in general we got a channel for that - #ubuntu-offtopic - See ya there Tinkerlad
[03:37] <Tinkerlad> Ahh ok. Sure :)
[03:37] <Prezident> If you get any problems you are welcome to ask in here.. Hope you enjoy your new distro.
[03:38] <Sith_Lord> in the end after a quite a few hours of tinkering, i just blew away the rackspace instance and went back to 14.04
[03:39] <Sith_Lord> i thought about playing with downgrading just the libpcap but it has many dependancies. im not good enough to modify that much system functionality. downgrading OS was easier once i discovered how much may be entailed in just downgrading the libpcap version
[03:39] <he1s3nberg> is it possible to downgrade ubuntu 14.10 to 14.04 lts /
[03:39] <he1s3nberg> ???
[03:39] <Almis> hello guys this not working sed -i '/s/;cgi.fix_pathinfo=1/0cgi.fix_pathinfo=0/g' /etc/php5/fpm/php.ini it gives me this error sed: -e expression #1, char 4: unknown command: `;' I tried escape chars using \
[03:40] <bubbasaures> he1s3nberg, No, do you have a separate home?
[03:40] <loki__> Almis, just go and change it by hands.
[03:41] <Almis> loki_ i make a shell script to not repeat this process
[03:41] <Sith_Lord> wafflej0ck_: i check that channel and see what they have to say. thanks :)
[03:41] <he1s3nberg> bubbasaures, no. im facing problems while shutting down the system. it wont shut down. taking a lot of time . also lots of hanging problems too. the system is uptodate. but still having stability problems.
[03:42] <Sith_Lord> s/i/i'll/
[03:42] <he1s3nberg> bubbasaures, also the brightness gets boosted to max after a screen wake up everytime.
[03:42] <bubbasaures> he1s3nberg, The issues would ve best one by one to the channel, I asked about home as it makes reinstalls easier for some.
[03:42] <bubbasaures> be*
[03:43] <Guest86032> Hola
[03:43] <wafflej0ck_> Sith_Lord: actually tried looking that's not right but there is an ubuntu programmers chat (maybe it's named that)
[03:43] <he1s3nberg> bubbasaures, by home what you meant  ?
[03:43] <Guest86032> Tengo un problema para instalar proFtpd
[03:43] <mozzarella> guys help
[03:43] <wafflej0ck_> Sith_Lord: might be able to get more direct help on debugging the problem there though
[03:43] <Sith_Lord> k
[03:44] <daftykins> mozzarella: what's wrong cheese?
[03:44] <Prezident> bubbasaures: of course its possible downgrade, wtf?
[03:44] <mozzarella> it seems like totem doesn't modify the access time of the videos I watch, why is this?
[03:44] <Prezident> he1s3nberg: here you go: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DowngradeHowto
[03:44] <daftykins> Prezident: no it isn't, notice the "unsupported" and "candidate for deletion" and references to hardy
[03:44] <daftykins> Prezident: please stop giving poor advice.
[03:44] <Guest86032> XS bye
[03:45] <Prezident> Read the howto please daftykins
[03:45] <Prezident> Doing the downgrade
[03:45] <Prezident> If you're ready to continue, we're going to continue:
[03:45] <Prezident> First, we need to update APT's information: sudo apt-get update
[03:45] <daftykins> Prezident: read the top of the page, unsupported. candidate for deletion. are you perhaps illiterate?
[03:45] <Prezident> Next, we'll downgrade: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:45] <Prezident> I did it myself, works fine.
[03:45] <Prezident> But dont let go OT now, please.
[03:46] <bubbasaures> he1s3nberg, home is the file system you have direct access to without passwords I.E. that is root.
[03:46] <Logan_> !downgrade
[03:47] <he1s3nberg> bubbasaures, i need to enter the password for getting root.
[03:47] <coc0nut> hey
[03:47] <coc0nut> anyone here_
[03:47] <Almis> this not working sed -i '/s/;cgi.fix_pathinfo=1/0cgi.fix_pathinfo=0/g' /etc/php5/fpm/php.ini it gives me this error sed: -e expression #1, char 4: unknown command: `;' I tried escape chars using \
[03:47] <Prezident> http://askubuntu.com/questions/49869/how-to-roll-back-ubuntu-to-a-previous-version < daftykins - never tell me give poor advices again, there is tons of ways.
[03:47] <Logan_> coc0nut: yes, just ask your question, and someone will help you
[03:47] <Prezident> it gets easier with livecd, but possible without even.
[03:47] <coc0nut> nice!
[03:47] <bubbasaures> he1s3nberg, Right and we are in deep left field, having to explain what home is.
[03:47] <coc0nut> because im using remote desktop
[03:47] <kevin__> sup coc0nut?
[03:48] <daftykins> Prezident: there are things that are supported and things that aren't, downgrading isn't. therefore it's bad advice. don't take it personally, it's not not advisable.
[03:48] <coc0nut> and it hasnt the keyboard language i want, it has us and i want norwegian
[03:48] <daftykins> *just not
[03:48] <Logan_> Prezident: daftykins is completely correct in that downgrading is unsupported; it may work sometimes, but you're bound to run into issues due to configuration changes, etc.
[03:48] <Logan_> I wouldn't recommend it to people in this channel, as it is, as I said, unsupported
[03:48] <Prezident> Sure he is, but its still possible.
[03:48] <Logan_> I never said it wasn't possible
[03:48] <he1s3nberg> bubbasaures, what u think might the problem is ? is it the new version ? or any other way to solve the mentioned problems ? the downgrading process seems to complex for me.
[03:49] <Logan_> I'm just telling you not to give people bad advice
[03:49] <Prezident> he asked if it was possible, not if there is a support way to do that.
[03:49] <daftykins> lol.
[03:49] <daftykins> now you're arguing semantics
[03:49] <Logan_> let's not get into semantics here
[03:49] <Prezident> Alright, i stop.
[03:49] <Prezident> Sorry.
[03:49] <he1s3nberg> hey guys, cut it loose.
[03:49] <Logan_> he1s3nberg: do you have a question?
[03:50] <he1s3nberg> Logan_, yes,i do and i asked it.
[03:50] <Logan_> alright, let's leave it there then :)
[03:50] <coc0nut> anywone else is troubled with different keyboard language when remote desktoping from windows to ubuntu_
[03:50] <coc0nut> im using ubuntu mate
[03:50] <he1s3nberg> Logan_, yeah. any solutions ? my system is getting too unstable.
[03:50] <bubbasaures> he1s3nberg, You can't expect an answer to vaguely described whole set of hard to tell if related and spread across multiple posts. That is not how it works here is all, no I have no idea, I had just wondered about home and andwering your question.
[03:50] <Prezident> he1s3nberg: check my urls and you find your answer, be careful and be sure you doing backups.
[03:50] <kevin__> I have a question...how do I downgrade to an older version of Ubuntu?
[03:50] <bubbasaures> answering*
[03:51] <kevin__> :)
[03:51] <Logan_> kevin__: don't troll please
[03:51] <Prezident> lol
[03:51] <kevin__> LOL
[03:51] <kevin__> sorry
[03:51] <kevin__> I have a real question...
[03:51] <Prezident> ?
[03:51] <Logan_> hard to believe, but go ahead
[03:52] <kevin__> I'm running 10.04 (old PowerBook)
[03:52] <Sith_Lord> lol
[03:52] <bubbasaures> and the ignore is set
[03:52] <mindless_chaos> how much wood could a wood chuck chuck if a wood chuck could chuck wood
[03:52] <Logan_> kevin__: are you running it for a server?
[03:52] <kevin__> Nope
[03:52] <kevin__> Just a laptop
[03:52] <Logan_> 10.04 is no longer supported for the desktop
[03:52] <Prezident> So whats your question kevin__ ?
[03:52] <Logan_> my apologies
[03:52] <kevin__> NP
[03:53] <kevin__> Just want to know if there's a way to mod the power indicator to show bat power %
[03:54] <coc0nut> having a issue with cant find out how to change keyboardlayout in remote desktop from windows to ubuntu
[03:54] <coc0nut> ranger81 nice nick >p
[03:54] <he1s3nberg> also having one issue too. my networking gets disabled frequently. even if i restart using stop and start service, still no change.
[03:54] <Prezident> wlan or cable he1s3nberg ?
[03:54] <he1s3nberg> wlan
[03:55] <Prezident> Had same problem in previous release?
[03:55] <he1s3nberg> Prezident, no.
[03:56] <Prezident> using WPA/WPA2?
[03:56] <he1s3nberg> WPA2
[03:56] <kevin__> Since 10.04 is EOS, does anyone have a recommendation for a distro that'll support the PowerPC and still run reasonably fast?
[03:57] <daftykins> *EOL
[03:57] <daftykins> wow powerpc, seriously?
[03:57] <mindless_chaos> hum.. 32 or 64
[03:57] <daftykins> !ppc
[03:57] <kevin__> LOL
[03:57] <he1s3nberg> Prezident, the entire networking gets disabled. i mean its unavailable for other wlan also.
[03:57] <kevin__> Yep
[03:57] <mindless_chaos> Powerpc is bad ass
[03:57] <Prezident> There is tons of problems he1s3nberg, whats your output on iwconfig wlan*?
[03:57] <mindless_chaos> I have a g4
[03:57] <daftykins> s/ass//
[03:57] <mindless_chaos> dual cpu
[03:57] <Prezident> powermanagent is OFF?
[03:57] <mindless_chaos> fast as hell with linux
[03:57] <kevin__> G4 here too
[03:57] <mindless_chaos> used to run slackintosh
[03:58] <mindless_chaos> was super fast
[03:58] <Prezident> he1s3nberg: try  sudo iwconfig wlan0 power off
[03:58] <he1s3nberg> Prezident, you mean to turn off power management  ?
[03:58] <mindless_chaos> I have to get is back up and running. I am just going to put the most recent version of slackware
[03:58] <kevin__> MorphOS runs like a scalded cat on the PPC but it costs $150
[03:58] <Prezident> try it.
[03:59] <mindless_chaos> then update kernel
[03:59] <he1s3nberg> Prezident, if it is, it already off in the iwconfig
[03:59] <Prezident> but check with iwconfig wlan0 if its off already?
[03:59] <Prezident> Alright, then we sorted out first thing.
[03:59] <Logan_> kevin__: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/trusty/release/lubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-powerpc.iso
[03:59] <he1s3nberg> Prezident, yeah. its already off.
[03:59] <Logan_> kevin__: no guarantees when it comes to performance, though
[03:59] <Prezident>  That is caused by laptops excessive efforts to save power.
[04:00] <Stomp_> Good night everyone
[04:00] <kevin__> Does 14.04.1 have "the desktop"?
[04:00] <kevin__> :)
[04:00] <Stomp_> Partition question,
[04:00] <Prezident> kevin__: part please or join #ubuntu-offtopic.
[04:00] <Logan_> kevin__: that ISO has the Lubuntu (LXDE) desktop
[04:00] <Stomp_> Does anyone know how to expand the size of my windows parition through Ubuntu?
[04:00] <Prezident> Obvious you are a troll, seriouslyu.
[04:00] <he1s3nberg> Prezident, Yeah , i do think so. but before a couple of days i installed some package naming laptop power saving tools. i think it might caused the problems. and i removed it,
[04:01] <daftykins> Stomp_: use Windows to resize NTFS
[04:01] <Prezident> How often do you your conection drop?
[04:01] <Prezident> every 30MIN, lower/higher?
[04:01] <he1s3nberg> Prezident, sometimes. i think the problem occurs when the system is kept idle for some time.
[04:01] <Prezident> Im sure its power managment
[04:01] <kevin__> Thanks Logan!
[04:02] <Prezident> So if you are active it :never: drop connection?
[04:02] <Logan_> kevin__: you got it :)
[04:03] <Prezident> he1s3nberg: try touch /usr/lib/pm-utils/power.d/wireless
[04:03] <he1s3nberg> Prezident, the thing is , if i try to on the powermanagement, it wont turn on too. i tried it using powertop at early times when my laptop battery was getting drained too fast
[04:03] <daftykins> Stomp_: Windows is better at resizing Windows disks
[04:03] <odsent> HOLY SHIT, THIS CHANNEL HAS 1650 NICKS!
[04:03] <mindless_chaos> yeah
[04:03] <Prezident> OffbeatAdam:
[04:04] <mindless_chaos> like, its a light night okay?
[04:04] <Prezident> Great he dropped finally.
[04:04] <Stomp_> would it affect the ubuntu partition, I've already unallocated some space
[04:04] <Stomp_> but how can I make sure widnows will take it
[04:05] <he1s3nberg> Prezident, in addition to that problem ,im havng shutting down or restart problems too. the running programs wont get stopped.
[04:05] <Prezident> he1s3nberg: you can make a bash script wich will turn it off permanent.
[04:05] <Prezident> type
[04:05] <Prezident> #!/bin/sh
[04:05] <Prezident> /sbin/iwconfig eth1 power off
[04:05] <Prezident> wlan0
[04:05] <Prezident> sorry
[04:06] <he1s3nberg> Prezident, ok i will give a try on that one.  do you have any idea what is causing the shutdown issue ?
[04:06] <Prezident> All this issues came after the upgrade?
[04:07] <wafflej0ck_> Stomp_: if the free space is unallocated by any partition and is next to the windows partition it shouldn't have a problem resizing into the unallocated region, you could also just setup the partition and use NTFS on it to have a space that is "shared" between windows and Linux for media or whatever
[04:07] <he1s3nberg> Prezident, not suddenly. the problems got showing off mainly after installing a cinnamon package, which i purged right after it.
[04:08] <bubbasaures> Stomp_, The space right next to the windows partition needs to be unallocated is all.
[04:08] <Stomp_> On the partition map I have the sawp space for Ubuntu, then my actual Ubuntu partition, then the space I unallocated, and last the windows partition
[04:09] <daftykins> oh you mean you want to move it back, yeah good luck with that
[04:09] <daftykins> i'd backup, delete and recreate
[04:09] <Stomp_> It is not letting me combine them, it says that my current windows parition size is both the max and min allowed
[04:09] <bubbasaures> Stomp_, You can't move the front of a windows install is all, it's brick
[04:09] <Prezident> he1s3nberg: you got powermanagement-interface installed?
[04:09] <daftykins> Stomp_: yeah not gonna work
[04:09] <he1s3nberg> Prezident, i dont know. how to check that ?
[04:10] <Prezident> try purge it by apt-get purge powermanagement-interface
[04:10] <he1s3nberg> ok.
[04:10] <Prezident> its not installed as default, wanna see if you got the packet installed.
[04:10] <Stomp_> I formated the unallocated spaced to ntfs but still it seems incompatible with the windows part
[04:10] <Prezident> if it is, press N
[04:10] <Prezident> type*
[04:10] <he1s3nberg> Prezident, it was not installed. tried the command.
[04:11] <Prezident> Alright, one thing more to remove from "checking" list..
[04:11] <daftykins> Stomp_: yeah that's not possible
[04:11] <he1s3nberg> Prezident, HMM ??
[04:12] <Prezident> Im trying find what your package have installed for ya
[04:12] <he1s3nberg> Prezident, ok. what should i do next ?
[04:12] <Prezident> since all this problems popped up from nowhere when you installed the package you purged
[04:12]  * Prezident thinking :)
[04:12] <he1s3nberg> Prezident, :)
[04:12] <Stomp_> what ya suggest? I don't want to delete the windows side, quite the opposite, I need to keep it and expand it
[04:13] <he1s3nberg> Prezident, the thing is , i dont have any idea from where it popped up. so i began thinking backwards, what all changes i made recently. and that was like i told u exact.
[04:15] <Prezident> did you create the file in /etc/pm/sleep.d/wireless?
[04:16] <he1s3nberg> Prezident, no.
[04:16] <Prezident> try
[04:16] <Prezident> touch /etc/pm/sleep.d/wireless
[04:16] <wafflej0ck_> Stomp_: did you go into disk management on the windows side to check if the new partition had a drive letter assigned/
[04:16] <wafflej0ck_> ?
[04:16] <Prezident> did you create the bash script even?
[04:16] <Prezident> Follow me now.
[04:17] <Prezident> cd cd /etc/pm/power.d
[04:17] <Stomp_> I am on widnoes now
[04:17] <Stomp_> letter was D
[04:17] <Prezident> sudo gedit/nano/vi wifi_pwr_off
[04:17] <Prezident> put the bash script i wrote before ^
[04:17] <Stomp_> but I just de-formated the space once again
[04:17] <Prezident> #!/bin/sh
[04:17] <Prezident>  /sbin/iwconfig wlan0 power off
[04:18] <Prezident> sudo chmod +x wifi_pwr_off
[04:18] <Prezident> Im sorry, this need a restart.
[04:18] <Prezident> Maybe its worth it.
[04:18] <he1s3nberg> Prezident, let me take a screenshot on the commands then.  :-)
[04:18] <Prezident> Come back and let me know if problem is solved with WIFI! I guess it will.
[04:18] <bubbasaures> Stomp_, Really you should be in ##windows for this.
[04:19] <he1s3nberg> Prezident, ok. hope so. thank you . :)
[04:19] <Stomp_> I am on windows now
[04:19] <Prezident> yw, i belive it will solve your wifi problem atleast.. What was next problem, laptop gets in sleep mode aswell?
[04:19] <daftykins> Stomp_: got an external hard disk?
[04:19] <bubbasaures> ##windows channel
[04:19] <Stomp_> yep
[04:19] <he1s3nberg> Prezident, no. the system wont shut down or restart .
[04:20] <daftykins> Stomp_: look up clonezilla, backup the partition to an image file on the external, delete the partition, create the new one - restore.
[04:20] <Prezident> What was the problem, my mind was had fully attention for the wlan issue :)
[04:20] <bubbasaures> that should work
[04:20] <pat___> momjails
[04:20] <he1s3nberg> Prezident, the issue is, even if we shutdown or restart, there is no change occuring. sometimes the screen goes blank for a long time, but wont shut down.
[04:21] <Prezident> But it seems something in your upgrade have been broken since you got so many issues, you got error message while you are using desktop aswell?
[04:21] <he1s3nberg> Prezident, there is an error report showing if i restart using the power button.
[04:22] <ReScO> hey, how can i run a bash script when there's a notification?
[04:22] <he1s3nberg> Prezident, the upgrade was done at the time it released itself, but this issues started showing off very recently, say a 2-3 days back
[04:22] <bubbasaures> Stomp_, Clonezilla likes to see the same partition to reinstall, I would just copy and use that partition rewritten ntfs and resized.
[04:22] <ReScO> and i have a dual GPU in this laptop, intel/nvidia, how can i enable enhanced graphics on my nvidia gpu?
[04:23] <Prezident> nano /etc/default/grub he1s3nberg
[04:23] <he1s3nberg> Prezident, what does it do actually  ?
[04:23] <Prezident> Find: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=what_it_stays_here?
[04:23] <Prezident> opening a text file only
[04:23] <he1s3nberg> ok.
[04:24] <Prezident> Should say: ="quiet splash"
[04:24] <Prezident> try add
[04:24] <he1s3nberg> it says "quiet splash"
[04:24] <Prezident> "quiet splash acpi=force"
[04:24] <Prezident> Save! and then do update-grub
[04:24] <Prezident> problem should be solved :)
[04:25] <he1s3nberg> how to save ?
[04:25] <Prezident> used nano?
[04:25] <Prezident> ctrl+x
[04:25] <Prezident> then y > enter
[04:25] <Prezident> or ctrl + x then enter
[04:25] <Prezident> then y i belive :)
[04:26] <Prezident> you see when you do ctrl+x
[04:26] <ReScO> Prezident: ctrl + x, y, enter
[04:26] <he1s3nberg> how to update
[04:26] <Prezident> ya, try now he1s3nberg problem must have been solved, im 99% sure this was the issue.
[04:26] <Prezident> grub-update
[04:27] <he1s3nberg> Prezident, i did update-grub
[04:27] <Prezident> And if you did the script it old you, both problem is solved.. I am sure.
[04:27] <mozzarella> it seems like totem doesn't modify the access time of the videos I watch, why is this?
[04:27] <Prezident> Oki, great, check next time you reboot alls should be fine. No more blank screen.
[04:27] <he1s3nberg> Prezident, did every steps you told me.let me try rebooting
[04:28] <Prezident> Good luck, please come back and tell me the result..
[04:28] <he1s3nberg> Prezident, lemme have a look. thank you :)
[04:28] <Prezident> yw
[04:28] <he1s3nberg> ok. i will be back.
[04:28] <Free99> hey all, I'm trying to compile a kernel for my system using "make localmodconfig", everything works except for decrypting my encrypted root drive. Any hints?
[04:29] <Prezident> Thank you ReScO btw, not like i got everything in my head! ;)
[04:33] <jstrem> what's the server room?
[04:33] <Prezident> Hels3nberg should be back now if he succeed remove the black screen, its 5mins
[04:33] <Prezident> #ubuntu-server jstrem
[04:36] <flukethought> how can i prevent memory leaks in ubuntu 14 server
[04:37] <Free99> flukethought, you'll need to provide more detail. What application? Or is it system-wide perhaps? Basically, how do you know there's a memleak?
[04:38] <flukethought> free99
[04:38] <flukethought> it's minecraft is the only thing i have running
[04:39] <Free99> so it's running on... openjdk or something right? Sorry I don't know a lot about minecraft
[04:39] <flukethought> system is a proliant server ml110 g6
[04:39] <flukethought> yea
[04:39] <flukethought> jdk headless
[04:40] <Free99> well... how do you know there's a leak? System eventually starts saying it's out of memory?
[04:40] <flukethought> yes
[04:40] <flukethought> looking at the logs
[04:40] <flukethought> i see that a memory leak is detected before it has a kernal panic
[04:41] <Free99> if you can get some of the logs on pastebin I might be able to uncover something
[04:41] <Free99> make sure whatever you're pasting doesn't have sensitive info in it though
[04:42] <Free99> p.s. can someone help me with my kernel issue?
[04:43] <lickalott> anyone here use sabnzbd?
[04:43] <flukethought> http://pastebin.com/WNmHyGLC
[04:43] <flukethought> free99
[04:43] <flukethought> there u go i took the last bit of the log
[04:44] <lickalott> I've been using it for a little while, just ported over from kwooty.  For the first time tonight i had to auto-repair a file and sab said it couldn't find a par2 binary.  I've been using multipar but I've been running it through wine.  Any options?
[04:45] <Free99> flukethought, Lets start with the basics, you have a minecraft install from ubuntu repos or somewhere else?
[04:46] <flukethought> lol else
[04:46] <flukethought> it's a custom forge setup
[04:47] <Free99> sheesh man I had to help one of my friend's kids set up forge, minecraft is crazy to setup on windows
[04:47] <jp82191> It's not that hard.
[04:47] <Free99> well, what mods you got?
[04:48] <jp82191> Pretty easy to get going.
[04:48] <flukethought> 200
[04:48] <jp82191> If you're into Pokémon you can play that pixelmon mod, pretty fun IMO
[04:49] <Free99> jp82191, you're right... I do sysadmin for a living, guess I was kind of surprised the process wasn't more straightforward for kids and such
[04:49] <jp82191> Ah, gotcha
[04:49] <Free99> flukethought, so your server was working well until recently?
[04:49] <jp82191> Yeah, it's kinda complicated for those who are just starting.
[04:50] <flukethought> nope
[04:50] <flukethought> over the past 30 days
[04:50] <flukethought> can't get it to run longer then a day
[04:50] <flukethought> before memory leak
[04:51] <Free99> flukethought, these guys are suggesting stuff is not getting handled properly by certain mods: http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/support/server-support/1877325-ftb-server-memory-leak-anyone
[04:51] <Free99> granted that's FTB not forge, but..
[04:52] <flukethought> ftb is forge
[04:53] <Free99> Oh. Lol. Well, anyway if you don't want to disable modes, you can try enforcing a memory limit on the jdk system so the app is not allowed to take more memory than you specify
[04:53] <Free99> might crash the server app, but not the system.
[04:53] <flukethought> how
[04:54] <Free99> it's called limits, /etc/security/limits.conf
[04:54] <Free99> man limits.conf
[04:56] <flukethought> point me to a guide
[04:58] <Free99> flukethought, http://blog.mattandanne.org/2011/12/minecraft-server-setup-debian-squeeze.html?view=classic
[04:58] <Free99> you may want to learn how to edit the init script so that it will restart the minecraft server process automatically if it dies
[05:00] <Free99> flukethought, I'm hitting it. I hope this is enough info to help you out
[05:00] <flukethought> no that perfect
[05:00] <flukethought> dude u rock
[05:00] <flukethought> sleep well
[05:01] <Free99> thanks man, and have fun
[05:01] <Free99> p.s. thanks everyone for the kernel compilation advice :P
[05:03] <ridethekline> hi guys i need help with my steelseries keyboard
[05:04] <christinasalisbu> Hi!
[05:04] <ridethekline> i have a problem with my color changing keyboard
[05:04] <ridethekline> it changes colors in windows but it doesn't in ubuntu :(
[05:05] <Prezident> 1, fuck windows,
[05:06] <Prezident> 2, what keyboard?
[05:06] <Prezident> sorry saw it up there
[05:06] <Prezident> no idea on this 1
[05:06] <ridethekline> Prezident: steelseries keyboard it's on my msi laptop
[05:10] <hikenboot_> hi, i am rsyncing between a ubuntu 14.04 system and a kubuntu 14.04 system for / but keeping the /boot that belongs with the kubuntu system. am i likely to run into problems?
[05:12] <hikenboot_> bbl to see responses..thanks in advance
[05:15] <ridethekline> hikenboot_: you shouldn't
[05:16] <bunbury> has anyone used Live Voyager Distro ?
[05:16] <astralis> screen flickers :/ ubuntu mate 14.10, ive tried installing compiz and now nvidia package, nothing helped, i use nvidia geforce 315 512 MB
[05:18] <ridethekline> what is the original linux kernel?
[05:22] <astralis> hello, how do i get rid of the flickering?
[05:41] <rypervenche> hikenboot_: You'll probably run into issues with configuration files, if you plan on syncing your /home
[05:41] <rypervenche> hikenboot_: What are you trying to accomplish?
[05:42] <nagerst> I am amazed that steam works in lucid. huh, who would have thunk it?
[05:55] <Raa> hello all ^_^
[05:55] <Raa> i was here a few days ago with a question, and it never really got answered so i figured i'd ask again
[05:56] <Raa> has anyone had a hard time installing skype?
[05:56] <bubbasaures> !skype | Raa
[05:57] <bubbasaures> wiki might help
[05:57] <Raa> did ask how to do it?
[05:57] <Raa> NO
[05:57] <Raa> i asked if you had a hard time with it!
[05:57] <bubbasaures> Nope
[05:57] <Raa> this was the responce i got last time, still didn't answer my question
[05:58] <bubbasaures> you get what you pay for
[05:58] <Raa> true
[05:58] <Raa> so bubbasaures, you installed skype?
[06:01] <bubbasaures> Raa, Yes awhile back, it's in the ubuntu repos, in the canonical partners.
[06:01] <Raa> canonical partners?
[06:02] <bubbasaures> Raa, Yes, look in the software & updates gui 2nd tab other software, ake sure it on.
[06:02] <bubbasaures> make*
[06:04] <zero_coder> hello, anyone played minecraft in ubuntu?
[06:06] <cfhowlett> zero_coder, are you counting users?  No?  then skip the survey and ask your real question.
[06:07] <Raa> did you mean in the software canter?
[06:07] <zero_coder> cfhowlett, when i am trying to open it with java jre it shows i have to accept the EULA license agreement
[06:08] <cfhowlett> zero_coder, correct ...
[06:08] <zero_coder> cfhowlett, now what to do?
[06:08] <bubbasaures> Raa, you can in the software center hit edit-software sources to get to the same gui.
[06:09] <cfhowlett> zero_coder, accept the EULA?
[06:10] <zero_coder> cfhowlett, yep thats what it shows
[06:10] <cfhowlett> zero_coder, paste up a screenshot
[06:10] <zero_coder> cfhowlett, You need to agree to the EULA in order to run the server. Go to eula.txt for more info.
[06:10] <zero_coder> that the exact one
[06:11] <cfhowlett> zero_coder, screenshot please
[06:11] <zero_coder> okie
[06:12] <zero_coder> cfhowlett, http://i.imgur.com/aKWPsph.png
[06:13] <cfhowlett> zero_coder, sorry to say: great firewall is not letting me see imgur today.  please use http://imgchili.net/
[06:14] <Raa> still not finding it in the software center. the only place i've found it was on the skype official site. and when i try to install it, it doesn't recognize that it was installed. it puts an icon in the menu but that icon does, literally nothing. and even after the software center finishes the install the button still says install it's really starting to frustrate me
[06:14] <bubbasaures> Raa, If you would just read the wiki which tells you how to install and advises you to use the ubuntu repos version
[06:15] <bubbasaures> Raa, You are running a supported release right?
[06:16] <Raa> yeah i'm running a supported release
[06:16] <Raa> this is the only program i've had a problem with
[06:17] <bubbasaures> Raa, Cool, just follow the wiki, notice the command that has the partners repo,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype
[06:18] <Raa> i think your previous advise worked for me, it just took time for it to bring it all up ^_^ we'll see
[06:19] <Raa> yep it's certainly worked a lot better! it at least recognizes that it's installed
[06:21] <sonda> hi
[06:22] <Raa> it's still being a little difficult, :/ i'll try restarting. i'll let you know if i get it to work. either way you've been very helpful and i appreciate it ^_^ thank you
[06:22] <bubbasaures> no problem
[06:22] <sonda> i have 11GB free in C drive and 38GB free in D drive.. can i install ubuntu
[06:22] <bubbasaures> sonda, Not in a ntfs
[06:23] <sonda> how to go about?
[06:24] <bubbasaures> sonda, Are you on the computer with the live ready to install?
[06:24] <sonda> i have not yet downloaded
[06:25] <sonda> i was thinking with so much less space how to go about
[06:26] <bubbasaures> sonda, We only really deal with actual issues, some things you have to research, plenty of space. Ubuntu installed is about 6 gigs, download it boot it and come back for help.
[06:29] <sonda> ok
[06:30] <bubbasaures> sonda, Like some things, easier to learn while doing it, hard to remember every intricate detail till really learned.
[06:31] <sonda> yeah
[06:36] <venu> i just dual booted ubuntu alongside win8.1. wen i start it, i get the running on low graphics error. i tried ctrl+alt+f1 and sudo apt-get install fglrx.  but i am getting package not found. pls help
[06:37] <bubbasaures> !fglrx | venu
[06:39] <bubbasaures> venu, Do you know how to check the sources.list to see what repos are open?
[06:40] <venu> no. i am totally new to ubuntu. but i did learn a great deal since yesterday's error
[06:42] <bubbasaures> venu, fglrx are 3rd party drivers, you should address the exact graphic hardware you have and see if help here can get you the open source drivers running.
[06:43] <venu> i have raedon hd 7660G + 8600M dual graphics
[06:43] <venu> i dont think there is a open source driver
[06:46] <venu> ubottu, i tried the link u just mentioned. my desktop is not loading. how should i go to system->administration->hardware drivers?
[06:46] <venu> waattt??????
[06:46] <venu> ubottu
[06:48] <venu> is it possible to download the driver or whatever is required to a pen drive using windows and later install the package from terminal of ubuntu?
[06:48] <cfhowlett> venu, if you get the .deb file, yes
[06:49] <venu> where can i get the .deb file?
[06:50] <cfhowlett> venu, "radeon hd 7660G+ linux driver"  search for it, of course
[06:51] <venu> i am new to ubuntu. can u tell me how to install the package from a pen drive?
[06:56] <bubbasaures> venu, why the pen drive?
[07:03] <Kaleidoscope> Hey, can anyone help with qjackctl and guitarix?
[07:04] <cfhowlett> Kaleidoscope, as ubuntustudio is silent, best to ask #opensourcemusicians
[07:05] <sonda> which are the services that can be safely stopped.. which we don't use
[07:05] <zefside> word up?
[07:05] <Kaleidoscope> Alright, I'll try there, thanks
[07:07] <Kaleidoscope> Eh, that room is just as dead...
[07:07] <cfhowlett> Kaleidoscope, see the ubuntustudio forums then ...
[07:07] <Kaleidoscope> Checked there, nothing posted worked.
[07:08] <CosmicSpirit>  anyone know why this weird two notification comes? http://pasteboard.co/253FviGe.png
[07:09] <Kaleidoscope> CosmicSpirit, those are vlc notifications, go into vlc settings and disable them there if you don't want em.
[07:11] <CosmicSpirit> but i was just getting just 1 notfication now its two thats what bothering me. any suggestions for that?
[07:12] <Kaleidoscope> Try disabling and re-enabling them
[07:15] <ReScO> http://www.linux.com/community/forums/drivers/nvidia-graphic-cards-850m-on-asus-n750jk-with-ubuntu-1410/20236 i'm having the same issue, dual gpu intel/nvidia gtx 850m, how can i enable usage of the 850m?
[07:15] <ReScO> i'm running on 14.10
[07:16] <Kaleidoscope> ReScO, you try the nvidia driver from the repository?
 weird though not getting any notification now
[07:16] <xofamore> anyone have any problem with recent kernels in 14.04 lts?
[07:16] <xofamore> keeps freezing for me.
[07:17] <xofamore> using older kernel works fine and does not freeze. just curious whether anyone else had the same issue.
[07:17] <Kaleidoscope> CosmicSpirit, and they're enabled?
[07:17] <zefside> i had a problem with compiz and 14.04
[07:18] <CosmicSpirit> yeah <Kaleidoscope>
[07:18] <zefside> had to add some manual bash delays for it not to crash
[07:18] <Kaleidoscope> CosmicSpirit, you restart VLC?
[07:18] <ReScO> Kaleidoscope: black screen or no desktop
[07:18] <CosmicSpirit> now problem solved <Kaleidoscope> just did it two times now working fine,
[07:18] <ReScO> it's a ASUS N750JK
[07:19] <CosmicSpirit> thanks <Kaleidoscope>
[07:19] <xofamore> ftr, not using compiz.
[07:19] <Kaleidoscope> CosmicSpirit, np, glad I could help
[07:19] <Kaleidoscope> ReScO, which driver did you try?
[07:20] <zefside> bet its your disolay driver
[07:22] <thecast> firefox 64 bits version stable is for ubuntu ?
[07:22] <Kaleidoscope> Freenode really needs to start auto banning idlers, nick list gets so cluttered.
[07:35] <dinosaur_> Anybody succeded in compiling generic exim4 on Ubuntu 12.04?
[07:37] <Kaleidoscope> Dinosaur, channel is dead, you try the forums?
[07:42] <thecast> the last version for ubuntu is stable?
[07:42] <cloudgeek> I can't connect any other wifi expect the company wi-fi, I don't know how I connect my home wifi ??
[07:43] <cloudgeek> It is ubuntu 14.04, Hp pro book.
[07:44] <Kaleidoscope> Cloudgeek, does it list your wifi at all?
[07:44] <cloudgeek> Kaleidoscope: yes it did
[07:44] <thecast> cloudgeek only must press the button of wifi very easy
[07:45] <cloudgeek> I press the button , but it shows it is connecting but it's doesn't connect
[07:46] <Kaleidoscope> Which connection manager do you use, cloudgeek?
[07:47] <fedora_newb> I just gave my ubuntu vm an extra space on the hdd through gparted but I am still getting the "This computer has only 390 MB disk space remaining." Not sure why
[07:48] <hadifarnoud> how do I remove a group from a user? I have a user called 'deploy' and it's member of 'deploy' and 'www-data'. everytime I do 'git pull' owner of modified files become deploy:deploy
[07:48] <hadifarnoud> if I remove 'deploy' user from 'deploy' group, the owner of files would be deploy:www-data, right?
[07:49] <thecast> cloudgeek  withh the mouse click over the icon of network in the bar and choise wifi , very easy also
[07:50] <cloudgeek> okay
[07:50] <fedora_newb> Not sure what or how to increase the size of whatever is running out of space after givingthe partition more gigs of it
[07:51] <thecast> cloudgeek all right??
[07:54] <DracoFlametail> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:54] <DracoFlametail> Fail o.o
[07:56] <thecast> what is the last version stable of kernel of ubuntu?
[07:57] <xofamore> thecast, 3.13.0-40
[07:58] <xofamore> for 14.04.1.
[07:58] <thecast> xofammmmore and this kernel iss compatible with android os??
[07:59] <fedora_newb> Anyone able to tell me what I need to do after giving more space to the partition on how to utilize it? After adding more gigs to the partition, ubuntu still complaining about running out of space
[07:59] <Seveas> fedora_newb: how did you add space to the partition?
[08:00] <fedora_newb> Seveas, I am running ubuntu on virtualbox and booted through livecd and used gparted to increase the size of the partition
[08:00] <Seveas> do you use LVM on top of the partitions?
[08:00] <Seveas> or just filesystems?
[08:00] <fedora_newb> Not sure?
[08:01] <fedora_newb> I know the partition I increased used ext4
[08:01] <Seveas> fedora_newb: pastebin the output of this command please: sudo fdisk -l && mount
[08:01] <thecast> bluestack work fine with wine in the last version of ubuntu???
[08:02] <fedora_newb> pastebin.com/zX5R1utf Seveas
[08:04] <Seveas> ok, raw partitions only, so you'll only need to grow the filesystem: sudo resize2fs /dev/sda1
[08:05] <Seveas> thecast: it has a rating of 'garbage' on the winw appdb, so I doubt it.
[08:05] <Seveas> thecast: https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=13717
[08:05] <fedora_newb> Seveas says "The filesystem is already 2780672 blocks long. Nothing to do!"
[08:06] <xofamore> thecast, android is linux. not the other way around.
[08:06] <fedora_newb> Check like my home directory, right clicking properties, says 562 MB free
[08:06] <fedora_newb> Should be more than that?
[08:06] <fedora_newb> I just added like 3-4 gigs
[08:07] <fedora_newb> to the partition
[08:07] <lesshaste> can anyone play the video at http://www.gardenbridgetrust.org/index.html ?  I have flash installed but I see "Major bummer" as the error message
[08:07] <Seveas> fedora_newb: did you reboot after growing the partition?
[08:07] <fedora_newb> Yea, as I was on livecd to do it
[08:07] <fedora_newb> @ Seveas
[08:07] <lesshaste> or http://vimeo.com/channels/staffpicks/112687575
[08:07] <lesshaste> hmm.. does vimeo just not work with linux?
[08:08] <Kaleidoscope> Lesshaste, yeah, I can view it fine
[08:08] <dts> so for whatever reason, plex media server on the center costs money...
[08:08] <Kaleidoscope> lesshaste, are sites like youtube working for you?
[08:08] <ubuntuser13> i created wifi hotspot for sharing mobile broadband with android tab. tab connected to hotspot.but unable to access internet on tab.why?
[08:08] <lesshaste> Kaleidoscope,  youtube works fine
[08:09] <Seveas> fedora_newb: heh, I think you grew the wrong partition :) You now have a 10gb root partition and 4gb of swap
[08:09] <Kaleidoscope> Does vimeos site work, not the videos, but just the site itself?
[08:09] <fedora_newb> Seveas, it was the only two that showed up/
[08:09] <fedora_newb> ?
[08:09] <fedora_newb> on gparted
[08:10] <lotuspsychje> lesshaste: did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[08:10] <Seveas> fedora_newb: I'd suggest shrinking your swap partition and adding that to your root partition.
[08:10] <lesshaste> Kaleidoscope,  right.. the site works, I just can't play the videos
[08:10] <fedora_newb> Seveas, how much swap do I need?
[08:11] <Seveas> no more than 1gb
[08:11] <fedora_newb> Have 8 gigs of ram for the vm
[08:11] <fedora_newb> kk, Thanks Seveas for the help
[08:11] <Kaleidoscope> lesshaste, have you tried any other flash sites?
[08:11] <fedora_newb> Will play with it more :)
[08:11] <lesshaste> Kaleidoscope,  I don't know any :)
[08:12] <Kaleidoscope> Newgrounds is one
[08:12] <Kaleidoscope> Try a random movie or game from there.
[08:14] <lesshaste> lotuspsychje,  just installed that, thanks
[08:14] <lotuspsychje> lesshaste: does it work now?
[08:15] <lesshaste> Kaleidoscope,  they work!
[08:15] <Kaleidoscope> Cool, thank lotus
[08:19] <lesshaste> lotuspsychje,  no :(
[08:19] <lotuspsychje> lesshaste: is this firefox?
[08:19] <lesshaste> yes
[08:19] <lotuspsychje> lesshaste: you getting a black screen on video or an error?
[08:20] <lesshaste> lotuspsychje,  ok it works not
[08:20] <lesshaste> lotuspsychje,  the problem was flashblock it seems. Doesn't play nice with vimeo
[08:20] <lesshaste> lotuspsychje, thanks for your help!
[08:21] <Kaleidoscope> It's always the addons. Lol
[08:21] <fedora_newb> Seveas, looks like gparting did the trick, shrinking the swap
[08:21] <fedora_newb> Thanks again!
[08:23] <lesshaste> Kaleidoscope, :) How does any use the web without flashblock
[08:24] <Kaleidoscope> Obviously, you just gotta watch it for problems like that :P
[08:24] <lesshaste> Kaleidoscope,  http://www.circuidipity.com/flashblock.html :)
[08:24] <lesshaste> I see a lot of web pages like that
[08:25] <lesshaste> https://dfspspirit.wordpress.com/2014/02/15/vimeo-does-not-work-with-firefox-and-the-flashblock-plugin/
[08:25] <lesshaste> etc
[08:26] <Kaleidoscope> Hulu does the same thing, generally I just avoid sites that do that.
[08:26] <Seveas> I don't even have flash installed.
[08:26] <lesshaste> you mean you avoid sites that break flashblock?
[08:27] <lesshaste> Seveas, do you  have sound installed? :)
[08:27] <Kaleidoscope> Yeah
[08:27] <Seveas> lesshaste: listening to music on youtube as we speak :) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxY9qkfZMI8)
[08:27] <lesshaste> Seveas,  I didn't even know you could play youtube on linux without flash!
[08:27] <Seveas> html5
[08:27] <Kaleidoscope> Youtube switched from flash to html5, huge improvement
[08:28] <lesshaste> aha
[08:28] <Seveas> hell, even youporn does html5, so no reason whatsoever to keep flash :P
[08:28] <Kaleidoscope> Haha
[08:28] <lesshaste> does anyone know how youp**p pays for itself?
[08:28] <lesshaste> youp**n
[08:29] <Kaleidoscope> Ads
[08:29] <lesshaste> it must cost millions to run
[08:29] <lotuspsychje> lets keep this channel free for ubuntu support guyes
[08:29] <lotuspsychje> !ot
[08:29] <lesshaste> lotuspsychje,  good point!
[08:29] <Seveas> lotuspsychje: there's no support question going on :)
[08:29] <lesshaste> Seveas,  I think in some sense this is an official channel of ubuntu
[08:29] <lesshaste> but I am not sure in what sense :)
[08:30] <Seveas> smell, probably :)
[08:30] <lotuspsychje> we have such nice discuss channel also, nobody ever use...
[08:30] <Kaleidoscope> Lol
[08:30] <lotuspsychje> !discuss
[08:30] <Seveas> heh, #ubuntu-discuss. I remember that failed attempt :)
[08:30] <Seveas> -offtopic is fine for youporn chat
[08:31] <Kaleidoscope> Offtopic seems quiet at the moment, I'm on irc to talk, not idle :P
[08:32] <cloudy_nz> Americans are asleep
[08:34] <Kaleidoscope> Am not, I'm American
[08:34] <green-big-frog> good morning
[08:34] <green-big-frog> i am having problems launching programms out of my browser
[08:34] <green-big-frog> if i have for example mumble://[some stuff] chromium pops up a window, which says that chromium wants to start an external program. but as external programm its always xdg-open
[08:34] <green-big-frog> how can i fix this?
[08:35] <Seveas> green-big-frog: why would you? xdg-open is supposed to do the right thing
[08:36] <green-big-frog> Seveas: but nothing happens
[08:36] <green-big-frog> it just does nothing
[08:38] <fedora_newb> Using ubuntu 14.04 on virtualbox and it seems a bit sluggish when it shouldn't be. The virtual box has 8 gigs of ram, 4 processors with 90% execution cap, 3D is enabled, disabled some gui settings on ubuntu but still seems sluggish, anyone have any tips on why this may be?
[08:41] <green-big-frog> no ideas?
[08:42] <martina_> !list
[08:43] <green-big-frog> stuff like this work out of the terminal: xdg-open http://www.heise.de
[08:44] <Kaleidoscope> Someone asked for warez?
[08:44] <lotuspsychje> fedora_newb: maybe try xubuntu-desktop, see if its less sluggish
[08:44] <green-big-frog> this is what i get trying to launch out of terminal:
[08:44] <green-big-frog> xdg-open mumble://ny.raidcomm.com:64738/?version=1.2.4
[08:44] <green-big-frog> gvfs-open: mumble://ny.raidcomm.com:64738/?version=1.2.4: error opening location: The specified location is not supported
[08:47] <green-big-frog> no one?
[08:53] <lotuspsychje> green-big-frog: you sure that mumble is a support type?
[08:54] <Seveas> green-big-frog: is mumble installed?
[08:54] <lotuspsychje> xdg-open supports file, ftp, http
[08:54] <lotuspsychje>        and https URLs.
[08:54] <lotuspsychje> man xdg-open
[08:58] <Seveas> lotuspsychje: that's only for its 'generic' implementation, under gnome it delegates to gvfs-open
[08:58] <lotuspsychje> ok
[08:59] <Seveas> and gvfs-open can be made to support any url scheme, see http://askubuntu.com/questions/179628/how-can-i-open-irc-links-in-pidgin-from-chromium for example
[08:59] <QuantumQweef> ayy wudd up everybody.....does anyone here have experience installing ubuntu on mactel??
[09:24] <green-big-frog> lotuspsychje: what do you mean?
[09:24] <green-big-frog> Seveas: yes
[09:24] <green-big-frog> i was afk... sr
[09:30] <Ascavasaion> Morning.   How do I mute/unmute headphones etc in Lubuntu?  I plug headphones in but I cannot find the settings for mute/unmute/volume.
[09:48] <dts> is there any reason why unity wont let me move around windows?
[09:49] <Kaleidoscope> Ascavasaion, do you have the volume icon in the status bar?
[10:05] <Guest31960> bom dia
[10:06] <Guest31960> bom dia
[10:07] <Guest31960> ninguem fala
[10:19] <frib> how can i verify that ubuntu is running trim in 14.04 lts?
[10:31] <qendrim> qendrim
[10:32] <Patina> frib: ps ax|grep trim
[10:32] <qendrim> what
[10:32] <qendrim> okk
[10:33] <qendrim> how are you
[10:33] <frib> Patina, it's a cron job not running all th etime
[10:33] <qendrim> whose that
[10:33] <qendrim> okk
[10:33] <frib> or at least it's supposed to be but i don't see it in crontab
[10:34] <cfhowlett> qendrim, this is a support channel - not chit chat/socializing.
[10:34] <qendrim> okk
[10:34] <qendrim> i know you
[10:34] <qendrim> heloo
[10:34] <bazhang> !ot | qendrim
[10:35] <bazhang>  /join #ubuntu-offtopic qendrim
[10:35] <qendrim> why bo to sleep
[10:35] <qendrim> go
[10:36] <bazhang> qendrim, do you have an actual ubuntu support question
[10:37] <qendrim> i dont know you
[10:37] <cfhowlett> qendrim, please leave this channel.  chat somewhere else.
[10:37] <bazhang> qendrim, this is NOT the chat channel, please stop
[10:37] <znc-> lol
[10:38] <qendrim> are you crazy
[10:38]  * cfhowlett does a magic trick = adds qendtrim to /ignore
[10:39] <qendrim> what???
[10:39] <derrzzaa> Can anyone recommend a decent cheap USB sound card compatible with 14.04?
[10:39] <cfhowlett> !hcl | derrzzaa,
[10:39] <derrzzaa> thanks
[10:40] <cfhowlett> derrzzaa, happy2help
[10:42] <znc-> bazhang did you kick qendrim?
[10:44] <MagicSpud> hello I was wondering whether ubuntu has something alike to what PlayStation has for sessions...that is pipe music which changes with desktop wallpaper
[10:48] <grek_> hi i instal vagrant ubuntu on ubuntu :) to develop setup nfs but have
[10:48] <grek_> stdin: is not a tty
[10:48] <grek_> mount.nfs: requested NFS version or transport protocol is not supported
[10:49] <grek_> any idea?
[10:50] <grek_> i found somethink to i should add 127.0.0.1 localhost but have this
[10:55] <Infamia> Hello guys.
[10:55] <EriC^^> hello
[10:55] <znc-> hmm hey
[10:56] <Infamia> I have a problem, my mysql-server start with my OS can i change that ?
[11:02] <hades777> test
[11:03] <cfhowlett> hades777, passed
[11:03] <Mrokii> Hello. Sorry if this is a silly question, I'm not sure. I'm currently using 4 GB RAM with my Ubuntu System and thinking about extending it to 8 or 16 GB. Can Ubuntu handle that and if so, is such an upgrade worth the money? I have a bit of an older motherboard and only can use DDR2 RAM 1200/1066/800/667 MHz.
[11:03] <cfhowlett> !test | hades777
[11:03] <hades777> i'm sorry dude...
[11:03] <cfhowlett> Mrokii, ubuntu can handle 4+ gb of ram with the 64 bit version.  whether or not it's worth upgrading an old box ?  only your hairdresser knows for fure.
[11:04] <cfhowlett> !lubuntu | Mrokii, generally more ram = good, but before you go that way, try lubuntu/xubuntu.  lubuntu is optimized for legacy and low specification machines
[11:04] <jozefk> W: Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/InRelease
[11:04] <jozefk> W: Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/Release.gpg  Cannot initiate the connection to archive.canonical.com:80 (2001:67c:1360:8c01::16). - connect (101: Network is unreachable) [IP: 2001:67c:1360:8c01::16 80]
[11:05] <jozefk> how to fix that?
[11:05] <cfhowlett> jozefk, paste.  fpaste.org              please
[11:05] <Novice201y> Hello. What's the name of package for Users Accounts app?
[11:05] <jozefk> it's only 2 lines
[11:06] <Mrokii> cfhowlett: Okay, I'll take a look at these, thanks. Though I've tried some of them in the past and missed some of graphical "gimmicks" that compiz provides.
[11:06] <cfhowlett> Mrokii, understandable.  but that's more of a graphics card issue than raw memory ..
[11:07] <hades777> how to install and run Bluegriffon ??
[11:08] <Mrokii> cfhowlett: Yeah, but I was mainly asking about the upgrade as I'm often running out of memory (at least I see the swapping-task slowing down my system quite often when looking at the tasks with the top-command.
[11:14] <hades777> fuck
[11:14] <cfhowlett> hades777, no need for such language.  also, a violation of community guidlines
[11:14] <cfhowlett> !guidelines | hades777
[11:15] <adam___> what command to restart the xserver/login server?
[11:16] <adam___> like a cli command, since I'm stuck in cli atm...
[11:16] <adam___> login service rather
[11:20] <artisanIndia> I am running web server with ubuntu 12.04 LTS whenever I login to shell I see a message 14.04 is available to upgrade, if I upgrade will that affect my web server files etc ?
[11:21] <cfhowlett> artisanIndia, "shouldn't" but you might want to ask the experts in #ubuntu-server about this.  12.04 is supported for 5 years = you don't HAVE TO upgrade.
[11:21] <artisanIndia> in 2017 I will consider upgrading
[11:22] <artisanIndia> k thanks cfhowlett
[11:22] <cfhowlett> artisanIndia, happy2help
[11:22] <artisanIndia> Vodafone ! :P
[11:23] <Nathan__> Hdw do you make a ne directory
[11:24] <artisanIndia> mkdir directory_name
[11:24] <Nathan__> what does cd /etc do
[11:24] <artisanIndia> it will navigate to /etc directory
[11:24] <cfhowlett> Nathan__, man cd
[11:25] <Nathan__> what does cd / do
[11:25] <cfhowlett> Nathan__, run this command.  man cd
[11:26] <Loshki> !manual | Nathan__
[11:26] <andreas> hi
[11:29] <Carson> Good evening/morning everyone.
[11:33] <mountaingoat> does ubuntu store truetype fonts in /usr/share/fonts/TTF or /usr/share/fonts/truetype normally ?
[11:34] <mountaingoat> looks like /usr/share/fonts/truetype
[11:48] <ubnew> I am having problem install an onboard ati driver , anyone have any info on ppa for ati driver ? http://pastebin.com/kRVQnNp1
[11:48] <bittyx-desktop> Hi. I'm having this exact problem when trying to boot from a flash drive on a ThinkPad W520 laptop: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1326216 - with kernel 3.13.0-37-generic. I'm attempting to boot Linux Mint 17.1, but this problem doesn't seem to be related to the distribution (as evidenced by the Ubuntu bug report). Anyone has any ideas what to do? Also, if there is a more appropriate channel for this question, sorry for b
[11:48] <bittyx-desktop> eing off-topic, and please point me in the right direction. Thank you!
[11:49] <cfhowlett> !mint
[11:49] <bittyx-desktop> The latest comment on that bug report says that 3.13.0-29 is fine, but since I'm using a later version, either the bug has reappeared or it wasn't really fixed.
[11:49] <bittyx-desktop> cfhowlett: I linked an Ubuntu bug report.
[11:50] <bittyx-desktop> I know Mint isn't supported here, but I thought I wasn't completely off-topic, since it also happens with Ubuntu. But sorry again if that isn't the case.
[11:50] <p0wn3d> Hak5 did a video for creating usb installs and booting
[11:50] <cfhowlett> bittyx-desktop, not to worry but
[11:51] <cfhowlett> bittyx-desktop, "status = invalid"?  what the heck does that mean?
[11:52] <ezzou> hi
[11:52] <bittyx-desktop> cfhowlett: It means the second last poster said that the bug was fixed in an update - it was present in 3.13.0-27, but not in 3.13.0-29. However, I have 3.13.0-37, so either the bug has reappeared, or it hasn't really been fixed in the first place.
[11:52] <cfhowlett> bittyx-desktop, this report is from June .. have you updated Kernel since then?
[11:52] <bittyx-desktop> cfhowlett: Nope, I just downloaded a fresh install. Is there a better place where I can report this kind of thing, since, as mentioned, it doesn't seem to be specific to Ubuntu?
[11:53] <bittyx-desktop> Ohh, just found ##kernel - I'll try there.
[11:53] <cfhowlett> bittyx-desktop, 14.04.1 is the current ubuntu version ... confirm.
[11:54] <bittyx-desktop> Which kernel does 14.04.1 use?
[11:54] <bittyx-desktop> Ie. which kernel does it ship with by default?
[11:54] <EriC^^> currently 3.13.0-40
[11:54] <cfhowlett> bittyx-desktop, IDK.  I'm on ubuntustudio so ... different
[11:54] <EriC^^> bittyx-desktop: ship by default i dont know
[11:55] <bittyx-desktop> EriC^^: Okay, thanks.
[11:55] <EriC^^> i think it's about 30 or something
[11:55] <EriC^^> for 14.04.1
[11:57] <Ahad> hello guys, i am having trouble with the clock display on my menu screen
[11:57] <Ahad> any idea how to fix it?
[11:57] <EriC^^> bittyx-desktop: try boot it with certain kernel options, maybe it'll boot then update the kernel once it's installed
[11:57] <EriC^^> bittyx-desktop: what's the kernel panic about anyways
[11:58] <Nathan__> how do you create multiple users all at once
[11:58] <bittyx-desktop> EriC^^: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1326216 this exact output
[11:58] <cfhowlett> Ahad, fix the question.  "trouble with the clock" tells us NOTHING
[11:58] <bittyx-desktop> EriC^^: (Well, except for the kernel version and the memory addresses)
[11:58] <Ahad> cfhowlett: clock is not being displayed on the menu bar
[11:59] <kilbith> hello folks, someone there has already encountered an issue in installing the drivers for the printer Epson XP-215 ?  they don't works whether for the generic ones or the proprietary ones on Ubuntu 14.04...
[11:59] <EriC^^> Nathan__: multiple users maybe for i in user1 user1; do sudo useradd -m $i; done
[11:59] <ubnew> how to check which ati chipset is legacy ? any list of it ?
[12:02] <kilbith> this channel is so flooded that it's often impossible to be listened ._.
[12:02] <Ahad> could anyone help regarding how to display clock on the menu ??
[12:02] <cfhowlett> ubnew, by date?
[12:02] <EriC^^> Ahad: unity?
[12:02] <ubnew> cfhowlett : http://pastebin.com/kRVQnNp1
[12:03] <Ahad> EriC^^: yes
[12:03] <cfhowlett> ubnew, sorry.  great firewall of china says I can't look at that ...
[12:03] <cfhowlett> fpaste.org         instead
[12:04] <EriC^^> Ahad: try /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/indicator-datetime/indicator-datetime-service
[12:04] <ubnew> cfhowlett : ok http://fpaste.org/155276/41734904/  ,I can't find any driver for this build in ati chipset
[12:04] <cfhowlett> ubnew, I can see it --- wait 1
[12:05] <turtleding> hello, how do i set $XDG_CONFIG_HOME? ="$HOME/.config/" cant be found
[12:05] <Ahad> EriC^^: thanks alot :D
[12:05] <EriC^^> Ahad: no problem
[12:06] <cfhowlett> ubnew, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[12:08] <ubnew> cfhowlett : still which driver I should install ? Catalyst <= 9.3?
[12:08] <EriC^^> turtleding: XDG_CONFIG_HOME="$HOME/.config"
[12:09] <turtleding> EriC^^: thanks :3
[12:10] <cfhowlett> ubnew, fglrx if I'm understanding the wiki correctly.  your card is listed as fully supported ...
[12:10] <fraytormenta> thank you!
[12:10] <ubnew> cfhowlett : Can I follow this guide ? http://www.ubuntulinuxguide.com/install-ubuntu-ati-drivers-fglrx/ ?
[12:10] <ubnew> cfhowlett : Using ubuhnt 12.04
[12:11] <cfhowlett> ubnew, I can't see it, but probably yes.
[12:13] <turtleding> EriC^^: echo $XDG_CONFIG_HOME is still empty - because of autocompletion cant find xdg_config_home, do i need to install it manually?
[12:16] <EriC^^> turtleding: it should find it
[12:16] <EriC^^> turtleding: are you typing $xdg or $XDG ?
[12:16] <turtleding> latter
[12:16] <EriC^^> echo $XD<tab> ?
[12:16] <turtleding> yeah
[12:16] <ubnew> cfhowlett : http://fpaste.org/155277/73497981/
[12:17] <cfhowlett> ubnew, seems legit ...
[12:17] <EriC^^> turtleding: are you trying it in a new shell?
[12:18] <ubnew> cfhowlett : you are under frewall ?
[12:18] <turtleding> EriC^^: dont know what exactly you mean
[12:18] <cfhowlett> ubnew, I'm in China ... GREAT Firewall
[12:18] <EriC^^> turtleding: like you are typing XDG...="$HOME"
[12:18] <EriC^^> turtleding: then in the same shell you are trying echo $XD ?
[12:19] <sonda> i am planning to use 20 GB of D drive for ubuntu. It should be more than sufficient right
[12:19] <ubnew> cfhowlett : oh , does this work too ? http://www.impdf.com/dl.asp?dlfile=temp\out_20141130-041508.jpg
[12:19] <EriC^^> or you're starting another shell or typing "bash" in the same shell?
[12:19] <cfhowlett> sonda, for the OS only, yes.  for your /hom and data ???
[12:19] <darknessthekidd> I don't know if this counts as a tech issue. But I am trying to find some way (Hopfully easy) to maybe use a local server of some sort like the program Synergy does to share my sound between multiple PC's to one PC. All of which are running Ubuntu, one Ubutunu 14.04 LTS the other two Ubuntu 14.101
[12:19] <darknessthekidd> 14.10
[12:19] <sonda> for os 8G is sufficient right
[12:19] <turtleding> i did just $XDG_<tab>="$HOME/.config", nothing more
[12:20] <darknessthekidd> The one I want to share it to has 14.10
[12:20] <turtleding> EriC^^:
[12:20] <cfhowlett> ubnew, right.  go for it.
[12:20] <EriC^^> turtleding: oh, no leading $
[12:20] <EriC^^> turtleding: just XDG_="$HOME.."
[12:20] <ubnew> cfhowlett : Thanks :)
[12:20] <darknessthekidd> Anyone know of a way to do that??\
[12:21] <EriC^^> turtleding: use export XDG_CONFIG_HOME="$HOME/.config" if you want it available to subproceses
[12:21] <cfhowlett> sonda, out of the box/plain vanilla ubuntu is *about* 8GB
[12:21] <turtleding> EriC^^: sry, my failure.  i meant without $ at the beginning
[12:21] <EriC^^> turtleding: oh ok, no idea
[12:21] <EriC^^> try export i guess
[12:21] <darknessthekidd> What?
[12:21] <sonda> the complete installation of 14.04 is how much
[12:21] <darknessthekidd> I feel like no one saw my massive message. xD
[12:22] <EriC^^> sonda: 6.4G
[12:22] <sonda> then keeping 20GB for ubuntu is enough I guess
[12:22] <turtleding> EriC^^: export XDG_CONFIG_HOME="$HOME/.config" => echo XDG_CONFIG_HOME => XDG_CONFIG_HOME
[12:23] <EriC^^> turtleding: when you echo, you have to use the leading $
[12:23] <EriC^^> echo $XDG_CONFIG_HOME
[12:23] <EriC^^> $ means variable
[12:24] <turtleding> EriC^^: ah, now it recognized it. thanks a lot
[12:24] <sonda> I have 50 GB free in D drive out of which 30GB I want to keep for windows
[12:24] <EriC^^> no problem
[12:26] <sonda> what do you say eric?
[12:27] <EriC^^> sounds good
[12:32] <aisy> hi
[12:32] <grek> there is on ubuntu some pdf reader like ebook reader with moemory last read page ?
[12:33] <grek> like ebookdroid on android
[12:33] <aisy> can anybody tell why this error occur
[12:33] <aisy> Fatal: open /vmlinuz: No such file or directory
[12:33] <cfhowlett> grek, there are lots of pdf readers.  search the software center
[12:35] <EriC^^> grek: there's one that comes by default
[12:35] <EriC^^> grek: Document viewer
[12:35] <bazhang> !info okular | grek
[12:37] <aisy> helo??
[12:38] <aisy> no one is here for help??
[12:38] <cfhowlett> !patience } aisy,
[12:38] <cfhowlett> !patience | aisy,
[12:39] <grek> ubottu thnaks
[12:40] <Infamia> Hey, i have a quick question, some program start with my OS can i change that ?
[12:41] <EriC^^> Infamia: open the dash > startup apps
[12:41] <Infamia> im using ubuntu as a VPS, so i can use only CLI
[12:43] <EriC^^> Infamia: ~/.config/autostart
[12:44] <Infamia> i'm gonna check this, thanks man :)
[12:44] <EriC^^> no problem :)
[12:45] <Infamia> cya
[12:46] <cbm> hello
[12:47] <Infamia> Hmm, there is a output: "No such file or directory"
[12:48] <EriC^^> Infamia: this is for one user btw
[12:48] <EriC^^> you need it system wide?
[12:49] <Guest70675> yuhu
[12:49] <Infamia> yup
[12:49] <EriC^^> Infamia: ok try /usr/share/autostart
[12:50] <EriC^^> not sure it works, give it a shot
[12:50] <EriC^^> you need to put a .desktop file
[12:51] <EriC^^> looks like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/9314127/
[12:51] <EriC^^> Infamia: wait, sorry
[12:51] <EriC^^> you're not using a gui right
[12:52] <Infamia> yes
[12:52] <EriC^^> nevermind
[12:52] <EriC^^> Infamia: does what you need to run need privileges?
[12:53] <Infamia> yes i run this with sudo command
[12:53] <checkob> Hi, i installed ubuntu minimal but forget to execute the final step after the bootloader which was something like "finalize installation" - can someone tell me what happens in this step so I could try to manually redo
[12:53] <EriC^^> Infamia: ok, you can add it to /etc/rc.local before the exit 0
[12:53] <EriC^^> no need for sudo, it will run as root
[12:54] <Infamia> This text, from ubuntu pastebin ?
[12:54] <EriC^^> nevermind the text
[12:54] <EriC^^> add your command in rc.local
[12:55] <Infamia> ok i will try
[12:57] <Infamia> Thanks again man ;) it works
[12:58] <EriC^^> no problem :)
[13:09] <[[EgUaR]]> Buenos dias
[13:09] <[[EgUaR]]> Hay algun canal de ayuda?
[13:09] <cfhowlett> !es [[EgUaR]]
[13:10] <cfhowlett> !es | [[EgUaR]]
[13:11] <[[EgUaR]]> muchas gracias
[13:14] <pavka> :-)
[13:14] <pavka> hi
[13:15] <cfhowlett> pavka, ask your support question
[13:16] <mehdip2007> how can i reinstall my ubuntu desktop?
[13:17] <mehdip2007> i also don't have  any toolbar on my apps
[13:17] <cfhowlett> mehdip2007, get the ubuntu .iso.  use startupdiskcreator to make a bootable ubuntu USB.  boot the USB.  install ubuntu.
[13:17] <mehdip2007> cfhowlett, i dont want to remove everything i got on my PC
[13:18] <cfhowlett> mehdip2007> how can i reinstall my ubuntu desktop?
[13:18] <mehdip2007> ubuntu-desktop
[13:18] <mehdip2007> is the package name
[13:18] <cfhowlett> mehdip2007, don't format your /home partition - which you will backup anyway
[13:18] <cfhowlett> mehdip2007, sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[13:25] <BluesKaj_> Hiyas all
[13:30] <Guest56623> join/
[13:30] <Guest56623> 请问怎么进入中文ubuntu
[13:30] <cfhowlett> !cn | Guest56623
[13:30] <compdoc> I feel the same way about ubuntu sometimes
[13:31] <Guest56623> join #ubuntu-cn
[13:31] <compdoc> use the /
[13:32] <mehdip2007> hey guys i just change GRUB_GFXMODE resolution and then i restart now my graphic isnt the same as it used to be for example my theme is faenza but it loading ambiance
[13:32] <mehdip2007> there is no menu title too
[13:33] <mehdip2007> my fonts are messup
[13:34] <hikenboot_> I will ask this question a second time (someone might have answered but my scrollback lines rolled off screen last night. I have taken a ubuntu 14.04 VM on hyper-v with LVM partitions that are 300GB and am now trying to transfer the root partition to a kubuntu 14.04 install (removal of kubuntu / rm -rf * ) and then trying to rsync the ubuntu 14.04 install to the kubuntu install
[13:34] <ryt_> 大家好
[13:35] <ryt_> 有人在吗？
[13:35] <ryt_> 大家好
[13:35] <ryt_> 有人在吗？
[13:35] <hikenboot_> what switches should i use with rsync to insure that the install is completely transfered I have to worry about hard links devices soft links and everything else that I am not aware of
[13:35] <m4db0y> Sorry we can't speak chinese
[13:35] <cfhowlett> !cn | ryt_,
[13:36] <ryt_> I can speak a little English
[13:36] <compdoc> me too
[13:36] <ryt_> have Chinese?
[13:37] <cfhowlett> !kylin | ryt_
[13:37] <cfhowlett> ryt_, go to the chinese language channel
[13:37] <ryt_> Ok
[13:38] <hikenboot_> oh also have to worry about time stamps and permissions
[13:48] <b0n7s> any one here having problems with 14.04 and using sudo followed with partial command and tab to auto complete
[13:49] <cfhowlett> b0n7s, "anyone ...." .... restate the question.  literal answer to your question is "yes" or "no".  does that actually help you?
[13:50] <cfhowlett> details matter
[13:53] <b0n7s> if I am a non root user with a partial command and press tab it auto completes fine but then I have to go back and elevate that command with sudo. If i start the command with sudo followed with the partial command and tab it fails to auto complete. if I sudo su and then try the process it works fine. I hope that makes more sense
[13:55] <b0n7s> this was working fine with 12.04 up until I did the upgrade a few days ago
[14:00] <Skyrider> If I were to install ubuntu on my VPS, which version should I get?
[14:00] <Skyrider> 10.10 or 14.04
[14:00] <Skyrider> **12.10
[14:02] <jaapio_> Skyrider: 14.04 because it's the latest lts version
[14:02] <Skyrider> Saw that, but latest doesn't always mean the greaters ;)
[14:02] <Skyrider> But thanks.
[14:02] <Skyrider> **Greatest
[14:03] <riki> ciaoo a tutti
[14:03] <riki> !list
[14:04] <jaapio_> Skyrider: in lst versions only stable software is added. So it should have all security patches for all packages you install
[14:04] <jaapio_> so it is the safest option
[14:04] <Skyrider> ^_^ good to know.
[14:04] <Skyrider> Moving from Debian to Ubuntu, heh
[14:05] <jaapio_> debian does the same thing, with its packages in the stable branch
[14:07] <massi_> ciao
[14:11] <albert_> anyone know of any free FPS shooter games
[14:13] <lapion> systemd will not reboot if ctrl-alt-reboot is pressed in recovery mode.
[14:14] <morsnowski> lapion, where is that reboot button and does it look like?
[14:15] <OerHeks> albert_,  try softwarecenter? lots of them, teeworld, nexuiz openarena
[14:15] <mjayk> teeworld is a good one :)
[14:16] <lapion> systemd will not reboot if ctrl-alt-del is pressed in recovery mode.
[14:18] <lapion> and kernel 3.16 has a severe bug that disconnects usb3 devices connected to usb 3 ports when writing data in greater than 8MiB increments
[14:20] <albert_> OerHeks, thanks
[14:22] <hexafluoride> if I have my home partition separate,
[14:22] <hexafluoride> there's no personal info on /, right?
[14:23] <trijntje> hexafluoride: that depends what you mean by personal info
[14:23] <hexafluoride> well
[14:23] <hexafluoride> not "info that would infringe my privacy"
[14:24] <hexafluoride> but
[14:24] <hexafluoride> "info that I would create during normal system operation"
[14:24] <hexafluoride> so basically, info that I won't be sad about losing
[14:25] <trijntje> hexafluoride: no, all your presonal files and settings would be on  your home partition. The only thing I can think of right now is the list of installed programs, those are on / and not in your /home
[14:26] <hexafluoride> alright, thanks
[14:26] <moshpit> hey everyone
[14:30] <nope_> lubuntu wired internet running slow. wont load webpages. tried changing the dns and it didnt work. any advice?
[14:30] <sennn> longene progect is good idea
[14:31] <sennn> project
[14:31] <OerHeks> nope_, try reset your router?
[14:32] <BluesKaj> nope_, try sudo dhclient eth0
[14:34] <nope_> it said rtnetlink answers: file exists
[14:35] <nope_> havent tried resetting my router. but ill try that soon
[14:35] <sennn> is there any linux distro only use LLVM??
[14:37] <OerHeks> sennn, you haven't found the packages in ubuntu?
[14:39] <sennn> OerHeks, i mean compile linux kernel with only LLVM
[14:41] <spleencheese> hi all.  im trying to browse my mythbuntu box (14.04.01 new install) from my windows7 machine which appears in the network, but prompts me to enter my "network password" which i do not have and did not set.  any suggestions?  i can browse my windows machine from the myth machine no problem.  is something wrong with samba?
[14:44] <Ascavasaion> How do I mute/unmote/adjust volume of microphone in Lubuntu please?
[14:44] <nope_> i reset the router. it didnt work. any other advice for slow lubuntu internet?
[14:45] <tehcereal> why does ubuntu change my keyboard layout every time i reboot
[14:46] <tehcereal> under tex entry i only have my keyboar layout but it changes every time to us
[14:47] <xamxam> Hi, I am facing this problem related to persian fonts in my browser, They are not correctly displayed as it used to be in windows.
[14:49] <xamxam> I have installed most of the available persian fonts which did solve this issue on some websites, but on facebook, this problem persists.
[14:56] <rootgenie> Anyone here using geany?
[14:56] <SCHAAP137> not me
[14:57] <Varanasi> nope..not me.. sry
[14:57] <SCHAAP137> it's an email program right? what advantages are there to using geany, compared to let's say, thunderbird?
[14:57] <Varanasi> nope geany is an IDE...
[14:58] <SCHAAP137> ah, oh yeah, i forgot for a moment, sry
[14:58] <xamxam> What are the advantages of using an email program? i never used one.
[14:58] <vegombrei> anyone here using lubuntu?
[14:58] <SCHAAP137> not me, ubuntu-gnome here
[14:58] <zhijia> .
[15:01] <w3rd_> hey guys,, i downloaded some software via software center in 'precise' it seems to say its searching and applying changes,,, never completes... how is one able to repair this so that it completes the task successfully,,, i have another system with 14.04, and the install routine for the same software completes ... should i reinstall?
[15:08] <lora> The msmtp on my ubuntu 14.04 throws an error, the same settings on my CentOS 7 machine do not: "GNU SASL: GSSAPI error in client while negotiating security context in gss_init_sec_context() in SASL library.  This is most likely due insufficient credentials or malicious interactions." How can I get to the core of this issue?
[15:09] <Ascavasaion> How do I mute/unmote/adjust volume of microphone in Lubuntu please?
[15:10] <lora> This is my testing command: echo 'some text' | msmtp --account awesome@emai.com testsmtp@mailinator.com
[15:10] <lora> Ascavasaion: tried commandline: alsamixer
[15:11] <lora> Ascavasaion: F5, I think, shows all devices.
[15:13] <lora> On my msmtp issue, I couldn't find gsasl on my machine and I am installing it right now.
[15:13] <lora> so, it's gsasl (1.8.0-2ubuntu2)
[15:14] <lora> I still get: msmtp: GNU SASL: GSSAPI error in client while negotiating security context in gss_init_sec_context() in SASL library.
[15:15] <Ascavasaion> lora: Thank you... got it.  you rock!
[15:22] <isthisreallife> hi
[15:23] <albert_> hi
[15:23] <isthisreallife> im trying to install windows 7 and i get this message "windows cannot be installed on this disk. The selected disk is of the GPT partition style."
[15:23] <isthisreallife> how to fix it?
[15:23] <EriC^^> isthisreallife: is ubuntu on it too?
[15:24] <isthisreallife> ubuntu is installed on other partition
[15:25] <isthisreallife> EriC^^
[15:25] <isthisreallife> i split partition using gparted
[15:26] <EriC^^> isthisreallife: ok, so are you using uefi?
[15:26] <EriC^^> do you have a fat32 partition called EFI?
[15:26] <isthisreallife> i dont even know what uefi is
[15:27] <EriC^^> ok, do you have a fat32 partition?
[15:27] <OerHeks> win7 should be able to handle uefi, no?
[15:27] <isthisreallife> its win7 64bit
[15:27] <isthisreallife> i created bootable usb drive using winusb
[15:27] <isthisreallife> wait let me show you all partitions i have
[15:28] <EriC^^> yes win7 and win8 support uefi
[15:28] <ubnew> Came back installing amd driver with "no supported adapters detected" terminal
[15:28] <EriC^^> isthisreallife: if you're booting using legacy and you have a gpt partition table it's going to complain about it
[15:28] <EriC^^> isthisreallife: i guess that's the case
[15:29] <EriC^^> check if you have a bios-boot partition
[15:29] <isthisreallife> http://i.imgur.com/P6vEUpe.png
[15:29] <isthisreallife> i want to install windows 7 on 59GB partition
[15:30] <EriC^^> ok, looks like you have efi
[15:30] <iamreallife> anyone know a thing about nvidia drivers?
[15:31] <iamreallife> when i use the tested ones my screen wont fit on monitor
[15:32] <iamreallife> the untetsed works fine but i tried to play openarena it runs very bad
[15:32] <isthisreallife> EriC^^ so how can i fix my problem
[15:32] <isthisreallife> i really need win 7 :<
[15:32] <EriC^^> isthisreallife: i'm googling
[15:33] <isthisreallife> okay thank you:)))))
[15:33] <EriC^^> isthisreallife: is ubuntu a fresh install?
[15:33] <isthisreallife> no
[15:33] <EriC^^> ok
[15:33] <isthisreallife> ubuntu version 14.04
[15:33] <yongyoon> w
[15:33] <Skyrider> What exactly are "minimal" templates?
[15:34] <Skyrider> I see this in the installation options for Ubuntu on my VPS.
[15:36] <EriC^^> isthisreallife: are you using it right now?
[15:36] <EriC^^> isthisreallife: maybe make sure win7 cd is booting in uefi mode?
[15:38] <peppe_> list!
[15:39] <iamreallife> is there anyway to find what model graphics card i have without removing it?
[15:40] <isthisreallife> how to do it?
[15:41] <EriC^^> isthisreallife: check the bios
[15:41] <EriC^^> how are you installing win7?
[15:41] <isthisreallife> i have bootable usb drive
[15:42] <isthisreallife> okay brb
[15:45] <iamreallife> why do i have to use the non open source nvidia driver?
[15:54] <albert_> I cant play any games arg. when i go full screen game goes black and i have to shut system down
[15:54] <albert_> any ideas?
[15:55] <root> HI there
[15:56] <ubnew> fglrxinfo giving me an error http://fpaste.org/155305/36297814/
[15:57] <lora> albert_: be more precise about "any" games and your steps until screen goes black. Read ./configure --with-libgsasl --with-gnome-keyring
[15:57] <lora> ./configure --with-libgsasl --with-gnome-keyring
[15:57] <lora> albert_ read: http://ubottu.com/y/gl
[15:57] <albert_> lora openarena for one
[15:58] <cfhowlett> albert, graphics settings?  drivers?
[15:58] <albert_> cfhowlett, i think driver but not sure
[15:59] <cfhowlett> albert, amd?
[15:59] <albert_> lora, that command gives me no such file or directory
[15:59] <albert_> cfhowlett, nvidia
[15:59] <cfhowlett> !nvidia | albert
[16:01] <albert_> ok well i know what card i have now
[16:02] <albert_> how do i accuire correct driver
[16:02] <cfhowlett> albert, best: from nvidia.  next best: opensource drivers
[16:03] <albert_> cfhowlett, thanks are they hard to install?
[16:07] <albert_> i dont seem to see the driver on nvidia
[16:12] <foenix> Hey all, i'm having issues with my batter on my thinkpad. When I switch to battery power, the computer shuts down immediately, as is no battery is attached
[16:12] <foenix> i'm running 14.04 with the latest updates
[16:13] <albert_> well i think i have the driver how do install it?
[16:14] <foenix> another thing is that the discharge accuracy has dropped to 0
[16:14] <Guest61502> foenix> does this happens only in ubuntu ?
[16:15] <albert_> how do install this ?NVIDIA-Linux-x86-260.19.29.run
[16:15] <foenix> Guest61502: I only boot ubuntu on this machine
[16:15] <EriC^^> albert_: type ./NVIDIA-Linux<tab>
[16:15] <foenix> Guest61502: I had no issues yesterday morning
[16:16] <albert_> EriC^^,  nothing happens
[16:16] <foenix> is there anything I can run to recalibrate the battery?
[16:17] <EriC^^> albert_: try sudo ./NVIDIA-Linux<tab>
[16:18] <albert_> EriC^^, still nothing wont even fill the rest of NVIDIA file in i even cd to d/l folder
[16:18] <foenix> I have installed tlp to check things out
[16:18] <EriC^^> albert_: you should get the full name ./NVIDIA-Linux...
[16:19] <EriC^^> albert_: press tab a couple times and it will list the possible completions
[16:19] <foenix> when I set the battery to discharge, the computer died
[16:19] <EriC^^> type more letters to get the one you want
[16:19] <albert_> EriC^^, only thing that auto fills is networkmanager
[16:19] <simonor> Hello chaps. Sorry to be weird. Just testing a 'doze 8 tablet.
[16:20] <JackelopeKing> Hello. I am trying to get help troubleshooting an Ethernet connection problem.
[16:20] <EriC^^> albert_: try typing the whole thing out
[16:20] <EriC^^> albert_: you have to be in the directory btw
[16:20] <albert_> EriC^^,  im in that directory and there only 2 files
[16:20] <okkangal> is there any turkish channel here
[16:20] <EriC^^> albert_: what are the files?
[16:21] <EriC^^> !tr
[16:21] <albert_> EriC^^, the NVIDIA driver and urbanterror.tar.gz
[16:21] <foenix> i'm going to try to go to battery power again
[16:22] <EriC^^> albert_: ok, type sudo ./N<tab>
[16:22] <albert_> EriC^^, nothing
[16:22] <simonor> Btw, been disappointed on 14.10 by caffeine TV crashes. Seems to be NVIDIA issue. Recommend sticking with 14.04 for media centres.
[16:22] <EriC^^> albert_: are you pressing tab?
[16:23] <albert_> EriC^^,  of course
[16:23] <EriC^^> type this echo sudo ./N*
[16:23] <albert_> i typed it out and says command not found
[16:23] <derrzzaa> trying to get myself up to date with configuring network sharing permissions etc on my home server. Anyone recommend a resource for learning this stuff?
[16:23] <EriC^^> what does it say?
[16:24] <derrzzaa> My googling hasn't yelided much
[16:24] <EriC^^> albert_: are you using a capital N ?
[16:24] <derrzzaa> via cli, not the gui
[16:24] <ubnew> cfhowlett : fglrxinfo giving me an error http://fpaste.org/155305/36297814/
[16:24] <albert_> EriC^^, yes
[16:24] <albert_> EriC^^, command not found
[16:24] <EriC^^> albert_: ok what does echo sudo ./N
[16:24] <EriC^^> echo command not found?
[16:25] <EriC^^> echo sudo ./N*
[16:25] <albert_> EriC^^, echo sudo ./N completes the file name
[16:25] <albert_> when i tab
[16:25] <cfhowlett> EriC^^, I don't have enough experience to advise you further on this issue.  stay in channel.  lots of smart people.  someone will know.
[16:26] <EriC^^> albert_: if it completes the filename, type sudo ./N*
[16:26] <cfhowlett> EriC^^, verify that command, thouught ...
[16:26] <EriC^^> albert_: it only completes that one file right?
[16:26] <albert_> EriC^^,  yes
[16:26] <EriC^^> cfhowlett: i just did ^^^ thus the echo
[16:26] <EriC^^> albert_: ok run sudo ./N*
[16:27] <JackelopeKing> Hello. I am looking for help trying to fix my ethernet connection on a machine running Ubuntu 14.10. Ethernet was working fine until last week, now it attempts to connect endlessly and cannot establish a connection. Thus far I've swapped out the ethernet card to a TP-Link TG-3269 and replaced the cable with no luck.
[16:27] <albert_> Ecommand not found
[16:27] <albert_> EriC^^,  command not found sudo ./N*
[16:27] <EriC^^> albert_: ok maybe the script isn't working?
[16:28] <paolo_> cia
[16:28] <paolo_> salve
[16:28] <EriC^^> albert_: if you type which sudo what do you get?
[16:28] <marco_> I think that's the problem too albert_
[16:28] <EriC^^> albert_: which sudo
[16:28] <cfhowlett> !it | paolo_,
[16:28] <albert_> EriC^^, any way to apt-get my graphics driver?
[16:28] <EriC^^> !find neauvou
[16:28] <paolo_> hi boy
[16:28] <EriC^^> !find nouvea
[16:29] <albert_> EriC^^, what do you mean which sudo
[16:29] <EriC^^> !find nouveau
[16:29] <EriC^^> albert_: type which sudo
[16:29] <paolo_> salve
[16:29] <xkubic19> hi
[16:29] <albert_> EriC^^, usr/bin/sudo
[16:30] <paolo_> salve
[16:30] <albert_> EriC^^, which is hashed (/usr/bin/which)
[16:30] <albert_> sudo is hashed (/usr/bin/sudo)
[16:30] <EriC^^> albert_: try sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
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[16:30] <EriC^^> albert_: i guess, i'm not sure
[16:31] <EriC^^> albert_: which nvidia card do you have?
[16:31] <cfhowlett> paolo_, non.  >>>> /join #ubuntu-it   <<<<
[16:31] <EriC^^> albert_: type lspci | grep VGA
[16:31] <albert_> EriC^^, geforce 6200 le
[16:32] <EriC^^> albert_: ok try to install that
[16:32] <EriC^^> albert_: which driver are you using right now?
[16:33] <albert_> EriC^^, Im using a legacy driver in additional drivers
[16:33] <EriC^^> albert_: ok go to additional drivers, and select another driver
[16:33] <albert_> EriC^^, when i try that i cant fit screen on monitor any more
[16:34] <albert_> EriC^^, this is only driver i found that will give the most options in settings
[16:34] <gmg85> hi?
[16:35] <gmg85> The volume icon is missing from my ubuntu 14.04 panel...what is in its place is some sort of default place holder type icon
[16:35] <gmg85> how do i get the original icon back?
[16:35] <EriC^^> albert_: ok, maybe we can get the nvidia driver to work
[16:35] <EriC^^> albert_: can you paste the commands you are running
[16:36] <EriC^^> cd to the dir, ls -l , then type sudo ./NVIDIA-Linux.......
[16:36] <EriC^^> paste it in paste.ubuntu.com
[16:37] <EriC^^> gmg85: try /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/indicator-sound/indicator-sound-service
[16:39] <gmg85> EriC^^, the indicator is there...everything is fine except for the icon...that's what is missing
[16:40] <EriC^^> gmg85: try setsid unity
[16:40] <gmg85> there's some sort of placeholder/default icon i
[16:40] <albert_> EriC^^, i posted
[16:40] <EriC^^> albert_: ok
[16:40] <EriC^^> albert_: link? :D
[16:40] <gmg85> EriC^^, thanks man...it worked!!!!!
[16:40] <nsh> Sorry, command-not-found has crashed! -- https://0bin.zertrin.org/paste/bc7710599c0f99e0c3f1f5727252bd94cf966a32#E4goJCIxtzvbnTmQjfsXYmjD5biUyN/gxxvWYNjoEt8=
[16:41] <EriC^^> gmg85: great!
[16:41] <cfhowlett> !info eog
[16:41] <cfhowlett> !info eog trusty
[16:42] <nsh> (this is a crouton chroot over chromeos, which might complicate things, but never had this issue before)
[16:43] <josePHPagoda> Hello everyone!
[16:43] <josePHPagoda> I've got a game that's done in SDL that supports mouse, but does not support touch screen
[16:43] <josePHPagoda> I have a touch screen monitor
[16:43] <josePHPagoda> is there a way that I can have the touchscreen actually simulate mouse clicks?
[16:43] <josePHPagoda> when I tap it?
[16:43] <EriC^^> albert_: what's the link?
[16:43] <albert_> EriC^^, http://paste.ubuntu.com/9316927/
[16:44] <EriC^^> ok
[16:44] <nsh> figured it out,  it's because i was doing: curl -sH "User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0" -L "http://graph.facebook.com/musalbas/picture?type=large" | eog -
[16:44] <EriC^^> albert_: ok, you have to use "./" after sudo
[16:44] <nsh> so the STDIN was still piped when command-not-found kicked in
[16:45] <nsh> that should probably be checked
[16:45] <EriC^^> albert_: sudo ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-260.19.29.run
[16:45] <EriC^^> albert_: the "./" is very important
[16:46] <albert_> sudo: ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-260.19.29.run: command not found
[16:46] <EriC^^> albert_: ok type chmod a+x NVIDIA-Linux-x86-260.19.29.run
[16:47] <albert_> EriC^^, ok
[16:47] <EriC^^> try the sudo command
[16:48] <albert_> EriC^^, a step closer
[16:48] <albert_> EriC^^, it failed but started
[16:48] <EriC^^> what did it say?
[16:48] <albert_> EriC^^, i appear to be runnbing an x server please exit x server
[16:49] <EriC^^> albert_: no problem!
[16:49] <EriC^^> albert_: sudo service lightdm stop
[16:49] <EriC^^> type that
[16:49] <EriC^^> btw
[16:49] <EriC^^> are you
[16:49] <EriC^^> using the pc
[16:49] <EriC^^> wait,
[16:49] <unopaste> EriC^^ you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[16:49] <nsh> unopaste (owner) lrn2NOTICE
[16:49] <albert_> EriC^^, yes im on a pc
[16:50] <EriC^^> are you using the same pc?
[16:54] <zcserei> Hello! I'm running 14.10 and after a while my keyboard just turns off without any notice. If I restart the given program, the keyboard is working again. What should I do? This often ends up very annoying.
[16:54] <dinosaur_> Let's say I want to compile apache2 exactly as it is compiled in Ubuntu for apache2-mpm-event. How do I do that?
[16:56] <albert_> EriC^^, im back lol that didnt got to well
[16:56] <EriC^^> albert_: yeah i tried to warn you in pm as well
[16:56] <EriC^^> albert_: no problem :D
[16:56] <EriC^^> albert_: do you have another pc you can talk from?
[16:57] <albert_> EriC^^, well it killed my gui i got to terminal and ran the sudo ./N command and it failed because /lib / blah blah was not configured ?
[16:57] <EriC^^> albert_: hmm
[16:57] <EriC^^> type sudo apt-get install irssi
[16:57] <EriC^^> then press ctrl+alt+f1, you can switch back to the gui with alt+f7
[16:58] <EriC^^> type irssi in the terminal, then type /server irc.freenode.net 8001
[16:58] <EriC^^> then /join #ubuntu
[16:59] <albert_> EriC^^, ok i think i used to do this in gentoo
[17:00] <albert__> EriC^^: ??
[17:01] <EriC^^> yes
[17:01] <EriC^^> ok great
[17:01] <EriC^^> now you can use alt+ctrl+f2 to get a different terminal
[17:02] <EriC^^> albert__: kill the gui
[17:03] <EriC^^> and run the script
[17:03] <EriC^^> install pastebinit
[17:03] <EriC^^> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[17:03] <albert__> EriC^^: im here
[17:04] <EriC^^> then run sudo ./NVIDIA.... > ~/NVIDIA.log 2>&1
[17:04] <EriC^^> then pastebinit ~/NVIDIA.log
[17:04] <albert__> EriC^^: hold on how do i get terminal up
[17:04] <hikenboot> hi I have used gparted to shrink a lvm volume in an extended partition. It worked fine. I have rebooted into the ubuntu live cd after this operation and am attempting to resize the extended partition that contains the shrunk lvm volume. gparted doesnt give me the option to shrink it..how do i shrink it
[17:05] <EriC^^> albert__: use ctrl+alt+f1-f6 for terminals, alt+f7 for the gui
[17:05] <EriC^^> albert__: put irssi on a terminal, and go to the gui and run sudo service lightdm stop
[17:05] <EriC^^> albert__: pastebinit uploads stuff to paste.ubuntu.com and gives you the link
[17:08] <albert__> EriC^^: i got the same running an x server eroor
[17:08] <EriC^^> albert__: did you stop lightdm?
[17:09] <EriC^^> alt+f7 should be blank
[17:09] <Silenced> is anyone using irssi ?
[17:09] <cfhowlett> Silenced, are you taking a poll?
[17:09] <albert__> EriC^^: i typed stop lightdm
[17:10] <ruukasu> I had a cron job that was working for a while, and suddenly stopped working. cron is running as root
[17:10] <EriC^^> albert__: type sudo service lightdm stop
[17:10] <Silenced> nope . got a doubt
[17:10] <EriC^^> albert__: ok i guess it worked :D
[17:10] <Silenced> cfhowlett: i got a doubt with that buddy
[17:11] <EriC^^> albert__: type sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[17:11] <albert__> EriC^^: i did that
[17:11] <EriC^^> ok
[17:11] <cfhowlett> Silenced, literal answer to your question is "yes.  some people use irssi."
[17:11] <EriC^^> cd to the dir and type sudo ./NVIDIA.... > ~/NVIDIA.log 2>&1
[17:11] <belgianguy> I can't empty my recycle bin; and using sudo rm -rf on the contents of the Thrash folder also just hangs there
[17:11] <Silenced> cfhowlett: do u ?
[17:11] <albert__> EriC^^: did that
[17:11] <EriC^^> albert__: that will redirect the output and error to ~/NVIDIA.log
[17:11] <ubnew> cfhowlett : fglrxinfo giving me an error http://fpaste.org/155305/36297814/
[17:11] <EriC^^> ok type pastebinit ~/NVIDIA.log
[17:12] <cfhowlett> Silenced, you don't really need to know what each individual user runs.
[17:12] <belgianguy> and if I use the GUI, it just keeps on adding up the counter, and it's just 3 folders
[17:12] <belgianguy> so I don'tr get it
[17:12] <vegombrei> hi im using lubuntu, recently installed when i watch movies my audio sync is off how do i fix this? or am i missing somekinda codec?
[17:12] <Silenced> cfhowlett: Do u use irssi ?
[17:12] <cfhowlett> ubnew, I don't have enough amd experience to advise any further.  ask again.  someone in channel will know.
[17:13] <albert__> EriC^^: on so how do i send that info to you
[17:13] <cfhowlett> Silenced, personal information and none of your concern.
[17:13] <EriC^^> albert__: pastebinit should give a link
[17:13] <EriC^^> type it here
[17:13] <cfhowlett> vegombrei, sudo apt-get install lubuntu-restricted-extras       will get codecs
[17:14] <EriC^^> albert__: you can check the log by typing less ~/NVIDIA.log
[17:14] <Silenced> cfhowlett: U better then mind ur business
[17:14] <ubnew> cfhowlett : no , you are already good enough :)
[17:14] <albert__> EriC^^: i typed pastebinit in terminal now it apears stuck how do i kill that command
[17:14] <EriC^^> albert__: press ctrl+c
[17:15] <EriC^^> albert__: it sometimes takes a while
[17:15] <cfhowlett> uber, did glxinfo give you any feedback?
[17:15] <WGEFAWSTHRGESF> fuck your shit you son of a bitch
[17:15] <WGEFAWSTHRGESF> a beach across the pond lives
[17:15] <WGEFAWSTHRGESF> fuck the idiot who died in the
[17:15] <WGEFAWSTHRGESF> living on a prayer for the others
[17:16] <WGEFAWSTHRGESF> all the fuck given to god's grace
[17:16] <WGEFAWSTHRGESF> living by a rule sinned
[17:16] <belgianguy> !ops
[17:16] <WGEFAWSTHRGESF> polygamy living the life of suck
[17:16] <WGEFAWSTHRGESF> living on the fuck of god
[17:16] <WGEFAWSTHRGESF> fuck on the server of windo
[17:16] <EriC^^> albert__: try less ~/NVIDIA.log
[17:17] <albert__> EriC^^: im trying
[17:17] <Lurchy> morning everyone
[17:18] <Lurchy> If I wanted to create a production environment locally....would I have issues mirroring it to my domain site?
[17:18] <albert__> EriC^^: wow terminal went crazy
[17:18] <jaydoc1982> hey
[17:18] <belgianguy> Lurchy: you can use Puppet or Chef
[17:18] <EriC^^> albert__: what do you mean?
[17:18] <belgianguy> to make server environments match exactly (if I understand it right)
[17:19] <Lurchy> you know..create a local system dedicated to testing my moodle script..with a sql database
[17:19] <vegombrei> cfhowlett: it worked great videos not lagging anymore thanks
[17:19] <albert__> EriC^^: it said no such file or directory
[17:19] <cfhowlett> vegombrei, happy2help
[17:19] <Lurchy> and be able to mirror it up on my hosting provider......
[17:19] <EriC^^> albert__: ok, try the sudo command
[17:19] <Lurchy> honestly....My website is cluttered and overall...extremely slow
[17:20] <EriC^^> cd to the dir and type sudo ./NVIDIA....
[17:20] <Lurchy> Im trying to figure out how to make it work better...I keep getting a database error when I have a whole class of mine use my site
[17:20] <EriC^^> without the > ~/NVIDIA.log ..
[17:21] <belgianguy> Lurchy: Isn't that more hw related than software? Check your logs for the error and see what it says?
[17:21] <albert__> EriC^^: i think i got it but now im stuck in terminal with END
[17:21] <EriC^^> albert__: press q
[17:21] <belgianguy> Lurchy: but you can install a server on your local system and then test it with your localhost
[17:21] <albert__> EriC^^: ok
[17:21] <albert__> EriC^^: now how do i get that info to pastebin
[17:22] <EriC^^> albert__: pastebinit ~/NVIDIA.log
[17:23] <Sonderblade> what version of linux did ubuntu 14.04 originally ship with?
[17:23] <albert__> EriC^^: think this is it pgv20BXq
[17:23] <Lurchy> belgianguy: thats what I am trying to figure out....I keep getting a database timeout error when I have 30+ uers on my site (a typical class I teach)  I cant get any help from Tech support....I am frustrated and want to reinstall...create a local instance at the house...then mirror it to my website
[17:23] <EriC^^> Sonderblade: check the manifest
[17:23] <Sonderblade> EriC^^: where is that?
[17:24] <EriC^^> releases.ubuntu.com/trusty
[17:24] <belgianguy> Lurchy: maybe best take this to #ubuntu-offtopic, there we can talk about it if you like
[17:24] <belgianguy> as this is the main Ubuntu support channel
[17:24] <EriC^^> albert__: it says the paste doesn't exist
[17:25] <rajvi> Hi Guys. Could anyone tell me what's the most common, easiest & safest practice to add startup scripts?
[17:25] <albert__> EriC^^: when nvidia install fails it says log is in /var/log/Nvidia-installer.log
[17:25] <cfhowlett> rajvi, sounds like a #ubuntu-server question
[17:25] <EriC^^> albert__: ok, try pastebinit /var/log/Nvidia-installer.log
[17:26] <rajvi> Not really. I need to know how to add scripts . Eg: Tomcat Startup script
[17:27] <albert__> EriC^^: 7gF3zwrS
[17:27] <daftykins> rajvi: apache tomcat, more server talk, yep server channel.
[17:27] <albert__> why is it so hard to get something to work argg i havent even goto my wireless network card yet
[17:27] <rajvi> Alright alright :)  Good Bye Guys
[17:28] <ODot> Whats the best way to remotely access my vps desktop
[17:28] <ODot> i noticed vnc has a password limit seems very insecure
[17:28] <EriC^^> albert__: it says the paste doesn't exist
[17:28] <belgianguy> ODot: SSH?
[17:28] <ODot> i need gui
[17:28] <cfhowlett> albert, make another paste         fpaste.org
[17:28] <EriC^^> albert__: it's http://paste.ubuntu.com/7gF3zwrS
[17:28] <EriC^^> ?
[17:28] <albert__> EriC^^: why does it give me an adres then
[17:29] <EriC^^> cfhowlett: he has no gui right now
[17:29] <albert__> EriC^^: no
[17:29] <cfhowlett> EriC^^, ahhh, OK
[17:29] <EriC^^> nvidia needs it to be killed for the script to run
[17:29] <EriC^^> albert__: there's another pastebin but it's hell
[17:29] <albert__> EriC^^: www.pastebin.com/7gF3zwrS
[17:29] <EriC^^> albert__: cat /var/log/Nvidia-installer.log | curl -F 'f:1=<-' http://ix.io
[17:29] <EriC^^> ok
[17:30] <EriC^^> it worked :D
[17:30] <albert__> EriC^^: great lol
[17:31] <EriC^^> albert__: i think you need to install the kernel headers
[17:31] <EriC^^> albert__: type uname -r
[17:32] <albert__> Zerant: says generic
[17:32] <albert__> EriC^^: oops says generic
[17:32] <EriC^^> what does it say before that?
[17:33] <ODot> is there any other way to access to gui desktop than vnc?
[17:33] <albert__> 3.13.0-41-generic
[17:33] <albert__> EriC^^: 3.13.0-41-generic
[17:33] <EriC^^> 41 are you sure?
[17:33] <EriC^^> albert__: you have 14.04.1 right?
[17:33] <albert__> EriC^^: yes
[17:34] <albert__> EriC^^: 3.13.0-41-generic
[17:34] <EriC^^> !info linux-image-generic
[17:34] <EriC^^> !info linux-image-generic trusty
[17:34] <ubnew> cfhowlett : sorry I didn't saw your reply ,  http://fpaste.org/155325/68889141/
[17:34] <EriC^^> albert__: did you custom install it or something?
[17:35] <EriC^^> albert__: 14.04 is at -40
[17:35] <Isaacs__> #join pinguy
[17:35] <cfhowlett> ubnew, is there any chance you could just ... oh, I don't know ... upgrade the gpu to a more modern version?  :)
[17:36] <albert__> EriC^^: im lost
[17:36] <helpme> hi there
[17:37] <albert__> EriC^^: no its zorin normal  install
[17:37] <helpme> i was here yesterday and I still cannot connect to internet. I am now using another computer
[17:37] <Guest37162> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9317621/ << these are the results for lspci and lshw -C network
[17:38] <Guest37162> audio doesnt work either,cannot some applications dont work, cannot save any edited document or file
[17:38] <ubnew> cfhowlett : 8.960 is old ? http://fpaste.org/155326/36907514/
[17:38] <EriC^^> albert__: sorry im back was getting some snacks
[17:38] <Guest37162> this is on a xubuntu 14.10 64 bits
[17:38] <albert__> EriC^^: luck you..
[17:39] <cfhowlett> ubnew, unless I've confused you with someone else (possible), isn't this a 2006 gpu?
[17:39] <EriC^^> albert__: lol
[17:39] <albert__> EriC^^: how do install kernel things it was asking for
[17:39] <EriC^^> albert__: ill wait for you to get some :P
[17:39] <albert__> EriC^^: just did
[17:39] <ubnew> cfhowlett : It's an integrated or build in GPU X1200
[17:40] <EriC^^> albert__: well, i don't know much about zorin
[17:40] <EriC^^> albert__: the kernel headers in the ubuntu repos are for -40
[17:40] <cfhowlett> ubnew, right - legacy stufff.
[17:40] <albert__> EriC^^: its the same as i heard
[17:40] <EriC^^> albert__: you could install the -40 kernel and headers
[17:40] <cfhowlett> ubnew, just a thought ...
[17:40] <albert__> EriC^^: how ?
[17:40] <EriC^^> albert__: it's based on it i guess, but it's different
[17:41] <EriC^^> albert__: type sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.13.0-40-generic
[17:41] <EriC^^> and sudo apt-get install linux-headers-3.13.0-40-generic
[17:41] <albert__> EriC^^: but i have 41 correct ?
[17:41] <EriC^^> albert__: then sudo reboot, and hold shift to get grub
[17:42] <EriC^^> albert__: yeah, you can boot into it from grub
[17:43] <belgianguy> my recycl bin dialog states it's 'preparing to remove 4.2365.852 files' and that counter keeps increasing
[17:43] <belgianguy> what can I do to repair the recycle bin?
[17:43] <ubnew> cfhowlett : yep , guess it's a legacy ,  I just though it will install well , no luck. Have to upgrade somehow but on this old pc , even I upgraded I may not run fully. Any suggestion whether to get a nvidia or ati without a 6pin extra  power ?
[17:44] <albert__> EriC^^: said those packages where no longer requires
[17:44] <EriC^^> albert__: are they installed now?
[17:44] <cfhowlett> ubnew, nvidia seems to be much more linux-friendly than amd.  If you live in the USA --- Fry's Electronics is the place!
[17:45] <EriC^^> type dpkg -l | grep linux-image.*40
[17:45] <albert__> EriC^^: i dont know it just didnt d/l anything
[17:45] <albert__> seems to say i have the newest
[17:46] <Paddy_NI> This might sound a little lazy but... I'm downstairs away from my PC and I am connected to it via juicessh. Now is there any simple way of determining whether or not my PC is connected to a VPN or not?
[17:46] <EriC^^> albert__: try the dpkg command and see if it shows up
[17:46] <Paddy_NI> Eventually I would like to be able to connect/disconnect the VPN using command-line
[17:47] <l2ksolkov> t
[17:47] <albert__> EriC^^: it shows 3.13.0.40 in red
[17:48] <turtleding> hello, whats the recommend way to permenent export enviroment variables _when using zsh_? .xsession & .xsessionrc doesnt work
[17:48] <bekks> albert__: The color is irrelevant, basically.
[17:48] <ubnew> cfhowlett : nah , not at USA , I just worry nvidia giving much headache installing driver on ubuntu .
[17:48] <EriC^^> albert__: ok, try dpkg -l | grep linux-headers.*40
[17:48] <EriC^^> turtleding: maybe add them to ~/.profile
[17:49] <turtleding> EriC^^: this works also with zsh?
[17:49] <albert__> EriC^^: says there at 40 also
[17:49] <EriC^^> albert__: ok great
[17:49] <EriC^^> sudo reboot and hold shift and select the -40 kernel
[17:50] <EriC^^> turtleding: no idea
[17:50] <turtleding> EriC^^: anyway, i will try it^^
[17:50] <T-Sourcemaker> is there a good linux scanner which I can buy?
[17:51] <T-Sourcemaker> I bought the Canon LIDE 210 yesterday, but it's a crappy quality
[17:51] <ubnew> cfhowlett : either way thanks for the help :) got to go , cya
[17:51] <bekks> T-Sourcemaker: Because...?
[17:51] <T-Sourcemaker> bekks: for document scanning
[17:51] <cfhowlett> ubnew, happy2try  best of luck
[17:51] <bekks> T-Sourcemaker: And why is it "bad quality"?
[17:52] <EriC^^> turtleding: do you want it system-wide?
[17:52] <ubnew> cfhowlett : thanks :) sleep early :)
[17:52] <OerHeks> T-Sourcemaker, any Hp or Epson work great OOTB
[17:52] <EriC^^> turtleding: seems that zsh uses /etc/profile then uses ~/.zprofile
[17:52] <T-Sourcemaker> bekks: there are many customer reviews on amazon... telling the same
[17:52] <albert_> EriC^^, ok i booted under 40
[17:52] <iwan2dualboot> Hi. I am wanting to dual boot my Android Pendo Pad, with ubuntu. Any help will be much appreciated.
[17:52] <EriC^^> albert_: ok, sudo service lightdm stop
[17:53] <T-Sourcemaker> bekks: on every scan... there are gray lines...
[17:53] <EriC^^> then cd to the dir and sudo ./NVIDIA...
[17:53] <cfhowlett> !touch | iwan2dualboot
[17:53] <turtleding> EriC^^: oh, i had forgotten to read zsh manpage sry.. I would prefer system wide
[17:53] <EriC^^> turtleding: add it to /etc/profile
[17:54] <iwan2dualboot> cfhowlett: Box says pendo pad 7.
[17:55] <albert__> EriC^^: sudo ?
[17:55] <turtleding> EriC^^: thx again^^
[17:55] <iwan2dualboot> ubottu:  Will go check the link. thanks.
[17:55] <EriC^^> albert__: kill lightdm first
[17:56] <albert__> EriC^^: i cant see anythinng now
[17:56] <albert_> EriC^^, i cant see anythinng now
[17:56] <EriC^^> albert_: ?
[17:56] <albert__> EriC^^: graphics didnt kill right i guess
[17:56] <albert_> EriC^^, graphics didnt kill right i guess
[17:56] <albert_> EriC^^, graphics didnt kill right i guess
[17:56] <DJones> albert_: Can you remove one of your clones
[17:58] <iwan2dualboot> aahhh, ok. seems in need ubuntu touch. thanks again.
[17:59] <albert_> EriC^^: that was crazy
[18:00] <EriC^^> what happened?
[18:01] <albert_> EriC^^: i typed sudo lightdm stop and its light graphics card was still wanting to work
[18:01] <albert_> had to reboot
[18:02] <EriC^^> that's not the right command
[18:02] <EriC^^> albert_: sudo service lightdm stop
[18:04] <albert__> EriC^^: sudo lightdm ?
[18:04] <albert__> have to right down lol
[18:09] <EriC^^> albert: ill brb
[18:10] <Geo> Is there a way using apt-get or dpkg to determine where files were installed?
[18:10] <trism> Geo: dpkg -L package_name;
[18:11] <albert_> EriC^^: ok i got it i loged in via terminal so i dont lose commands when i had you in gui
[18:11] <EriC^^> albert: ok
[18:11] <EriC^^> albert_: try sudo service lightdm stop
[18:12] <albert_> EriC^^: great
[18:12] <Geo> trism, thanks. Running that, it looks like dpkg doesnt know about stuff installed via apt-get. So, revised question- how can i figure out where something was installed via apt-get? :)
[18:13] <albert_> EriC^^: ok done
[18:13] <trism> Geo: no, that will work for every installed package, if you wanted to query other things available but not installed, install apt-file and use: apt-file list package_name
[18:14] <Geo> hrm.
[18:14] <Geo> dpkg -L tcl-dev said no such package
[18:14] <Geo> but it is installed and accessible by apt-get
[18:14] <Geo> what would I be doing wrong?
[18:14] <trism> Geo: what is: apt-cache policy tcl-dev;
[18:14] <albert_> EriC^^: it says something about kernel not being configured
[18:15] <Geo> uh
[18:15] <Geo> I dont' want to say.
[18:15] <Geo> :)
[18:15] <Geo> sigh.
[18:15] <Geo> thanks
[18:16] <OerHeks> !rootirc | root_
[18:17] <albert_> I lost my help :(
[18:17] <root_> ubottu : Do you mean i can get hacked ?
[18:18] <HappyNewYear13> any quic command to know the last time i logged in?
[18:18] <bekks> root_: There is just no reason for using root for IRC.
[18:18] <bekks> HappyNewYear13: "last".
[18:18] <OerHeks> uptime can tell
[18:18] <EriC^^> albert_: did you boot into -40?
[18:18] <albert_> EriC^^: yes
[18:18] <EriC^^> albert_: type uname -r
[18:18] <root_> bekks ; I am using the irssi to connect
[18:19] <cfhowlett> root_, you should never use root as a regular state.
[18:19] <bekks> root_: Dont use root.
[18:19] <albert_> EriC^^: says something like kernel has not been configured >
[18:19] <HappyNewYear13> any quic command to know time i turned on my ubuntu pc?
[18:19] <albert_> EriC^^: 40 generic
[18:19] <EriC^^> albert_: does it say for which kernel?
[18:19] <albert_> EriC^^: 40
[18:20] <HappyNewYear13> bekks, oh last is  good one
[18:20] <OerHeks> HappyNewYear13, wouldn't that be the same?
[18:20] <root_> ok am leaving
[18:20] <HappyNewYear13> OerHeks, "last" is good
[18:21] <albert_> EriC^^: source files in lib/modules not configured ?
[18:21] <EriC^^> albert_: ok
[18:21] <HappyNewYear13> OerHeks, i like uptime too. thank u
[18:22] <cloudgeek> How I can pass command line username and password for automated installtion of pertino cleint , Ubuntu:14.04
[18:23] <albert_> EriC^^: any idea what that means ?
[18:24] <bekks> cloudgeek: That depends on the pertino client - whatever it is, does it have its own support community?
[18:24] <OerHeks> cloudgeek, not, i guess. that is why linux is safe.
[18:25] <cloudgeek> bekks: it doesn't have
[18:25] <cloudgeek> bekks: I know how to for Mysql but I don't how do for it, After apt-get install pertino-client , it ask me for username and password
[18:25] <bekks> cloudgeek: So whats that "pertino client" ar all?
[18:25] <cloudgeek> than I need to enter manually
[18:25] <EriC^^> albert_: maybe it can't find the headers, no idea
[18:25] <bekks> *at all
[18:26] <cloudgeek> bekks: https://support.pertino.com/hc/en-us/articles/201116845-Pertino-Linux-installation-and-configuration-guide
[18:26] <EriC^^> albert_: try find /lib/modules -name "version.h"
[18:26] <cloudgeek> bekks:I don't want to go with chef, I am using Docker for it.
[18:26] <bekks> cloudgeek: It has its own support resources: https://support.pertino.com/hc/en-us
[18:27] <DJ_Unibob> hmmm, this is an odd issue/appcrash.  "nvidia-331 331.89-0ubuntu5: nvidia-331 kernel module failed to build"  Looking on launchpad for a resolution.  Any ideas on what might cause it, other than perhaps a broken pipe?
[18:30] <albert__> anyone know how to install nvidia drivers ?
[18:31] <DJ_Unibob> You would need to use the "Additional Drivers" program, since they are proprietary (sp?)
[18:31] <albert__> DJ_Unibob, they dont work properly
[18:31] <cloudgeek> bekks: okay
[18:32] <DJ_Unibob> Have you tried all the listed drivers?  I had to use the one listed as "tested" with mine.
[18:32] <albert__> DJ_Unibob, yes i  have i tried to d/l driver from nvidia but cant get it installed
[18:33] <DJ_Unibob> Though I did just have a crash related to it, but my system still appears to be stable.
[18:33] <grek> in ubuntu exist equivalent sudo nfsd checkexports ? i have same error https://github.com/puphpet/puphpet/issues/240
[18:33] <DJ_Unibob> hmmm, well, outside of that program, I'm not sure what to do.  I've only recently got back to linux after a few year hiatus, so I'm more or less learning all over again.
[18:33] <albert__> DJ_Unibob, i have one that runs ok but when i try and play agame at full screen system crashes
[18:34] <grek> i have installed nfs but nfsd unknown command
[18:34] <grek> i have error - sudo nfsd checkexports
[18:34] <DJ_Unibob> I'm sure someone here will be of more help albert__
[18:35] <OerHeks> albert what do you expect of that nvidia 6200 ?
[18:35] <EriC^^> albert__: what's the latest kernel available?
[18:35] <OerHeks> it is old, not all 3d stuff will work flawlessly
[18:35] <albert__> EriC^^, 41
[18:35] <EriC^^> type apt-cache search linux-image
[18:36] <EriC^^> albert__: do you see 41 there?
[18:36] <albert__> im running 40 to be safe
[18:36] <albert__> EriC^^, this is to hard guess ill go back to stupid windows
[18:36] <EriC^^> albert__: is it there?
[18:36] <EriC^^> albert__: it's easy hold on
[18:37] <EriC^^> albert__: is -41 there?
[18:37] <albert__> EriC^^, is it where ?
[18:37] <EriC^^> in apt-cache search linux-image
[18:38] <albert__> EriC^^, there are alot form 30 to 41
[18:38] <EriC^^> use shift+pageup to scroll
[18:38] <EriC^^> ok, great
[18:38] <EriC^^> so you have 41 in the repos
[18:38] <DJ_Unibob> Actually, I just noticed I'm still running 331.89 and don't see any updates, I'm going to have to see why nothing new is showing up.
[18:38] <EriC^^> type sudo apt-get install linux-generic
[18:39] <EriC^^> albert__: it should install the headers of 41
[18:39] <EriC^^> or whatever is the latest kernel
[18:39] <albert__> EriC^^, Unpacking linux-generic (3.13.0.41.48
[18:39] <albert__> a lot of that happened
[18:39] <EriC^^> ok, great
[18:40] <EriC^^> when it's done
[18:40] <albert__> EriC^^, only took a sec
[18:40] <EriC^^> try to boot into the new kernel
[18:40] <EriC^^> maybe it'll work since the headers are installed
[18:40] <albert__> EriC^^, brb
[18:41] <DJ_Unibob> brb
[18:42] <OerHeks> so all this effort to get more options in nvidia settings with that old nvidia 6200 card? ... in zorin :-D
[18:43] <EriC^^> that's ike saying football is all this effort is to put a ball with some air in it in a net
[18:43] <EriC^^> *like
[18:44] <Vladimiri> is it possible to install ubuntu on a usb drive and have the whole system on it, and whener I want I can just boot it up on pretty much any computer?
[18:44] <EriC^^> ( missing the point )
[18:44] <albert_> EriC^^, im back
[18:44] <EriC^^> albert_: ok, sudo service lightdm stop
[18:45] <EriC^^> ok
[18:45] <albert_> EriC^^: ok killed gui
[18:45] <EriC^^> ok
[18:46] <EriC^^> try to run the sudo command
[18:46] <EriC^^> if it doesn't work i have an idea
[18:46] <techwolf12_> /[art
[18:46] <albert_> EriC^^: same thing about kernel
[18:46] <EriC^^> albert_: ok, no problem
[18:47] <EriC^^> try cd /lib/modules
[18:47] <albert_> EriC^^: says most likley /lib files in kernel not configred
[18:47] <EriC^^> then cd 3.13.0-41-generic
[18:48] <DrManhattan> How do I enable antialiasing on the desktop cube?
[18:48] <albert_> EriC^^: ok im there
[18:48] <EriC^^> ok cd build/include/linux
[18:48] <ReScO> http://www.linux.com/community/forums/drivers/nvidia-graphic-cards-850m-on-asus-n750jk-with-ubuntu-1410/20236 i'm having the same issue, dual gpu intel/nvidia gtx 850m, how can i enable usage of the 850m?
[18:49] <bekks> ReScO: BY using the Optimus-enabled driver, nvidia-prime
[18:49] <ReScO> bekks: didn't work
[18:49] <albert_> EriC^^: no file or  directory
[18:49] <bekks> ReScO: Why not?
[18:49] <ReScO> only getting a login screen, after logging in, blank screen, no unity
[18:50] <EriC^^> albert_: this is odd, i just tried to install the headers and i don't have a version.h file
[18:50] <albert_> EriC^^: thats what mine says
[18:50] <DrManhattan> How do I enable antialiasing on the desktop cube?
[18:51] <DrManhattan> intel onboard graphics
[18:51] <bekks> ReScO: What do the logs say?
[18:52] <ReScO> bekks: no screen found
[18:52] <albert_> Well guess i just cant play any games :(
[18:52] <EriC^^> albert_: i found something on google
[18:53] <albert_> EriC^^: LIke >
[18:53] <EriC^^> albert_: it looks like the driver doesn't support the kernel
[18:53] <EriC^^> if you start the gui check it out im reading
[18:53] <EriC^^> sudo service lightdm restart
[18:53] <albert_> EriC^^: ok
[18:53] <EriC^^> https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/707443/unable-to-install-nvidia-driver-96-43-23-in-xubuntu-13-10-the-kernel-header-file-does-not-exist-/
[18:54] <EriC^^> when you start the gui ill paste it
[18:54] <albert__> EriC^^, so im screwed i take it
[18:55] <EriC^^> albert__: no i think you need to download a different driver from nvidia or there seems to be a patch or something for newer kernels
[18:55] <EriC^^> https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/707443/unable-to-install-nvidia-driver-96-43-23-in-xubuntu-13-10-the-kernel-header-file-does-not-exist-/
[18:56] <P1RATEZ> DrManhattan: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=65975 and http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=136664 indicates it increases cpu load
[18:56] <DrManhattan> ?\
[18:56] <DrManhattan> P1RATEZ, I don't care if it increases CPU load, I just want it to look better
[18:56] <DrManhattan> no point in having a CPU and not using it
[18:57] <ReScO> bekks: i've had to reinstall ubuntu twice already because of these driver issues...
[18:57] <c0ffee_> I happened to mess up some files in /etc/X11/app-defaults/ is there a way to rewrite them from clean distro, etc ?
[18:58] <albert__> EriC^^, thats the error i was getting
[19:02] <albert__> EriC^^, how do install the patch
[19:03] <EriC^^> albert__: im searching for a different driver
[19:05] <ReScO> i'm having a lot of issues here, i want to be able to use my stronger GPU for WoW
[19:05] <albert__> EriC^^, patch failed in the same way any how
[19:06] <EriC^^> albert__: the patch is for an older nvidia i think
[19:06] <albert__> ok
[19:06] <albert__> EriC^^, my nvidia is old lol
[19:06] <EriC^^> albert__: you need a patch for 260.19.29
[19:07] <EriC^^> or to change the nvidia driver to one that has a patch
[19:08] <albert__> i found that one on nvidia website
[19:10] <ReScO> anyone?
[19:10] <EriC^^> albert_: try this http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/51453
[19:11] <EriC^^> albert_: this seems newer http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/59827
[19:12] <EriC^^> albert__: did you get my links?
[19:12] <ReScO> Goddammit.
[19:12] <ReScO> Stupid fucking dual gpu
[19:12] <de333> hi
[19:12] <EriC^^> ReScO: try to disable the other one in the bios
[19:12] <ReScO> Can't
[19:13] <ReScO> Asus N750JK
[19:13] <EriC^^> hi de333
[19:13] <ReScO> Intel Haswell + Nvidia GTX 850M
[19:13] <de333> how r u?
[19:13] <EriC^^> de333: great, you?
[19:14] <de333> not bad
[19:14] <albert__> EriC^^, no
[19:14] <EriC^^> albert__: http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/59827
[19:14] <EriC^^> try that driver
[19:14] <albert__> EriC^^, i got where you said i need at patched driver
[19:15] <de333> just got ableton running on hackintosh, so quite happy
[19:15] <albert__> EriC^^, think im on a 32 bit system
[19:15] <EriC^^> ReScO: do you have an nvidia control panel?
[19:15] <de333> off usb
[19:15] <de333> boot
[19:15] <ReScO> EriC^^: no...?
[19:16] <EriC^^> ReScO: type nvidia<tab>
[19:16] <ReScO> albert__: run uname -a
[19:16] <ReScO> EriC^^: only nvidia-detector
[19:17] <DrManhattan> ok How do I enable antialiasing with intel onboard graphics
[19:17] <albert__> 14 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[19:17] <albert__> thats what i got
[19:17] <albert__> EriC^^, that the right one ?
[19:17] <EriC^^> nope
[19:17] <EriC^^> hold on
[19:19] <EriC^^> albert__: use this http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/59826
[19:19] <albert__> EriC^^, thanks hope it owrks
[19:20] <ReScO> EriC^^: http://i.imgur.com/nVamqzz.png
[19:21] <DrManhattan> anyone? Bueller? Bueller? How do I enable Antialiasing on intel onboard graphics?
[19:21] <EriC^^> ReScO: try to type nvidia in the dash
[19:22] <ReScO> EriC^^: only nvidia-detect
[19:22] <EriC^^> ah, i think you have to install it
[19:22] <ReScO> no shit
[19:22] <EriC^^> not sure
[19:22] <EriC^^> :D
[19:22] <ReScO> but if i install nvidia-prime, i can't login
[19:22] <EriC^^> !find nvidia
[19:22] <ReScO> i see the greeter, i enter my password, but alas no desktop whatsoever
[19:22] <EriC^^> maybe it's nvidia-settings?
[19:23] <EriC^^> try sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[19:23] <jess44> is there an off topic channel here?
[19:23]  * ReScO uses the low orbit facepalm cannon
[19:23] <bubbasaures> jess44, #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:23] <EriC^^> ReScO: you mean you're not using the nvidia driver?
[19:23]  * DrManhattan bursts into tears
[19:23] <DrManhattan> How do I enable Antialiasing on intel onboard graphics?
[19:23] <ReScO> DrManhattan: compizconfig
[19:24] <amjam> Hi all. Does anyone here have wifi working on a Dell Inspiron laptop?
[19:24] <ReScO> EriC^^: No, i'm not, it breaks my system
[19:24] <EriC^^> ReScO: oh ok
[19:24] <ReScO> amjam: lspci | grep -i wlan
[19:24] <ReScO> what's the output?
[19:24] <DrManhattan> ReScO, I can't find it in the settings manager
[19:24] <ReScO> DrManhattan: did you install it?
[19:25] <amjam> ReScO: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01)
[19:25] <DrManhattan> ReScO, yes, along with the extras package
[19:25] <ReScO> press the windows key or super, then type compiz
[19:26] <ReScO> amjam:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[19:27] <ReScO> !find firmware-b43-installer
[19:27] <DrManhattan> ReScO, I have the compizconfig settings manager open already, I just can't find where AA is enabled
[19:27] <ReScO> amjam: you need firmware-b43-installer
[19:27] <amjam> ReScO: is that something that can be installed prior or during installation?
[19:27] <ReScO> run "sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[19:27] <amjam> I haven't yet installed ubuntu yet, the .iso is downloading right now, though and i'm about to put it on a USB Key.
[19:27] <ReScO> amjam: post install
[19:28] <amjam> ReScO: got it.
[19:28] <amjam> thanks bud.
[19:28] <ReScO> amjam: if it doesn't work, send me a PM
[19:28] <EriC^^> amjam: it should be in the additional drivers, installed by itself
[19:28] <derrzzaa> Are there are cool third party disk usage utils out there?
[19:28] <ReScO> DrManhattan: i'll look into it, gimme a sec
[19:28] <derrzzaa> du -h isn't all that
[19:28] <amjam> EriC^^: sorry, what do you mean by "installed by itself"? Like, as an add-on during installation or something post-installation?
[19:28] <ReScO> amjam: in the packages on the disc, iirc
[19:29] <EriC^^> amjam: it's found on the liveusb, when you finish the installation go to the dash and type drivers
[19:29] <EriC^^> amjam: it should be there, and already selected i think
[19:29] <DrManhattan> ReScO, thank you. I will name my firstborn son ReScO if you can get this solved for me
[19:30] <ReScO> DrManhattan: ATI or Nvidia?
[19:30] <DrManhattan> ReScO, intel onboard
[19:30] <ReScO> Apparently, you need to force it through their respective settings pane- oh.
[19:31] <ReScO> You know that that onboard GPU can't handle any AA whatsoever?
[19:31] <DrManhattan> yeah I can't find the settings pane/manager for intel
[19:31] <DrManhattan> nvidia it's easy
[19:31] <DrManhattan> ReScO, I would like to try and see what happens
[19:32] <ReScO> DrManhattan: well, either your system runs so slow that you need to reboot into a basic shell, or you try to work through the slowness and attempt to open a terminal, but that's my guess.
[19:32] <albert_> EriC^^: Its installing whoo
[19:32] <windowripper> anonymous OS tools for ubuntu....point made not a ?
[19:32] <DrManhattan> ReScO, I'll chance it - how do I enable it?
[19:32] <EriC^^> albert_: cool!
[19:32] <albert_> EriC^^: thanks you have a chance to help with wireless card ?
[19:33] <EriC^^> sure
[19:33] <EriC^^> what's up?
[19:34] <albert_> EriC^^: i used the only driver in additional drivers and it didnt work
[19:34] <ReScO> DrManhattan: i think / bet that there's no AA support on the onboard intel GPU, and compiz doesn't do that itself
[19:34] <albert_> EriC^^: nvidia failed to build kernel
[19:34] <ReScO> So, you're pretty much out of luck as far as i know
[19:34] <ReScO> albert_: what's in the logs?
[19:35] <DrManhattan> ReScO, ok thank you
[19:35] <EriC^^> albert_: same error about not finding the /lib/modules... ?
[19:35] <albert_> EriC^^: no it installed but now my scrren is huge
[19:36] <albert_> EriC^^: said couldnt build error during install
[19:36] <albert_> EriC^^: going to reboot
[19:37] <JTHRDGSEF> FUCK YOUR SHIT FUCK ASS HOLE MOTHER OF CUNT
[19:37] <JTHRDGSEF> SHIT OF YOUR MOTHER ASS PRAER
[19:37] <JTHRDGSEF> LIVING ON TH EEDGE OF FUCKING ASS HOELS
[19:37] <JTHRDGSEF> ON THE FUCK OF SHIT AND SEX
[19:37] <Finetundra> hello everybody. what would one do if you had a graphics card that cannot support GRUB's default resolution?
[19:37] <JTHRDGSEF> SHEET MUSIC PLAYED BY FUCK MOZORT
[19:38] <JTHRDGSEF> SHEET ON THE BED WITH MOTHER
[19:38] <JTHRDGSEF> SISTER PLAYED BY THE CAR CLEANER
[19:38] <ReScO> JTHRDGSEF: prepare to be hacked.
[19:38] <JTHRDGSEF> PLUMBER CLEAN THE BODY OF GOD
[19:38] <amjam> ReScO / EriC^^: I just booted into the liveUSB environment but I still don't see how I can get online via wifi.
[19:38] <JTHRDGSEF> POLY GOD OF MOIN DES
[19:38] <JTHRDGSEF> SARTRE BEAT THE LIVING OF GOD
[19:38] <JTHRDGSEF> FUCK TO THE HELL OF ASS
[19:38] <JTHRDGSEF> WINDOWS SERVER
[19:38] <ReScO> amjam: do you have access to LAN?
[19:38] <JTHRDGSEF> EJECT HARD 409302L
[19:38] <OerHeks> !ops
[19:38] <amjam> All the Network Settings show is "Wired" and "Network Proxy"
[19:38] <phunyguy> gosh darnit
[19:38] <phunyguy> tab complete fail
[19:39] <amjam> ReScO: unforutnately I don't right now.
[19:39] <ReScO> amjam: can you use your mobile to connect to the internet?
[19:39] <IdleOne> lol phunyguy
[19:39] <IdleOne> you kicked a staffer
[19:40] <phunyguy> I /msg and apologized
[19:40] <amjam> ReScO: i'm not sure how you mean.
[19:40] <phunyguy> didnt see them /part, so I tab completed without thinking
[19:40] <phunyguy> too late by the time I realized.
[19:40] <albert> EriC^^: i think its trying to use a crt monitor
[19:40] <ReScO> amjam: Thether
[19:40] <EriC^^> albert: try the nvidia-settings
[19:41] <albert> EriC^^: i cant do anything now in gui mode screen it huge and cant see anything but center of the screeb
[19:41] <EriC^^> albert: ok in a terminal type xrandr
[19:42] <albert> EriC^^: cant open disply
[19:43] <EriC^^> albert: try export DISPLAY=:0
[19:43] <EriC^^> then xrandr
[19:43] <marcy69> ciao
[19:43] <marcy69> lista
[19:44] <albert> EriC^^: cant open display :0
[19:45] <albert> EriC^^: you know im in terminal not gui
[19:45] <EriC^^> albert: yeah
[19:45] <EriC^^> hold on
[19:46] <EriC^^> albert: try DISPLAY=:0.0 xrandr -s 800x600
[19:47] <Guest15076> hello i have laptop used run xp but no longer supported. the laptop has 1.73ghz cel and 1 gig ram. what would u recomend? thank u
[19:47] <EriC^^> albert: did you get my last msg about xrandr -s 800x600 ?
[19:48] <rypervenche> Guest15076: You can definitely run Linux on it, you might want a more lightweight Desktop Environment though, maybe Xubuntu.
[19:48] <albert> EriC^^: cant open display
[19:48] <EriC^^> hmm
[19:48] <EriC^^> try to go to the gui
[19:48] <EriC^^> press ctrl+alt+t
[19:48] <daftykins> Guest15076: life will be painful regardless, however
[19:48] <EriC^^> and type xrandr -s 800x600
[19:49] <albert> could not apply stored confige for monitors
[19:49] <EriC^^> albert: i think you need some xorg.config stuff
[19:49] <Skyrider> heh....
[19:49] <Skyrider> I just installed ubuntu, and damn.... :-\
[19:50] <Guest15076> i have xp alongside ubuntu but when i updated ubuntu the page went blank could only just login and wallpaper be blank only mouse icon
[19:50] <Skyrider> uses twice memory usage from my previous debian.
[19:50] <amjam> ReScO: I ended up being able to connect via cat5.
[19:50] <albert> EriC^^: think ill just give up how do i restore old driver ?
[19:50] <ReScO> amjam: nice :)
[19:50] <mohsen-rashidi> Is openjdk 8 available for ubuntu 14.10?
[19:50] <k1l_> mohsen-rashidi: yes
[19:51] <Goethe2> Guest15076, i have ubuntu 14.04 and it currently takes 1,7 GB ram in use. I have firefox, chrome, irc and transmission running.
[19:51] <mohsen-rashidi> What's the package name?
[19:51] <EriC^^> albert: if you still feel like giving it a shot there's this site that has some stuff http://www.howopensource.com/2012/10/install-nvidia-geforce-driver-in-ubuntu-12-10-12-04-using-ppa/
[19:51] <k1l_> !info openjdk-8-jdk
[19:51] <albert> EriC^^: i cant use gui now :(
[19:51] <albert> EriC^^: how can i restore it
[19:52] <EriC^^> albert: 1 sec
[19:52] <k1l_> mohsen-rashidi: try the search of your favourit package tool or packages.ubuntu.com
[19:52] <mohsen-rashidi> Thank you
[19:52] <Guest15076> and can someone explain this when in live mode i get my 1024x768 res but when installed only 640x480
[19:53] <k1l_> Guest15076: install a proper driver?
[19:54] <Guest15076> tried addiontal driver nothing, but lappy 7yr old
[19:54] <bekks> Guest15076: Which driver did you try?
[19:54] <mjayk> hayhay
[19:55] <Guest15076> whatever what was on the ubuntu version
[19:55] <k1l_> Guest15076: what video card is it then?
[19:55] <EriC^^> albert: try mv ~/.config/monitors.xml ~/.config/monitors.xml.backup
[19:55] <bekks> Guest15076: Can you name the driver please? Is it nouveau, nvidia, fglxr, radeon or whatever?
[19:55] <Guest15076> the graphics card is a sis
[19:55] <EriC^^> albert: then sudo service lightdm restart
[19:56] <k1l_> Guest15076: :/  well, i dont have had success with that cards. good luck then
[19:56] <bekks> Guest15076: Oh my. Good luck with that.
[19:57] <Guest15076> the graphics card is a sis. its on motherboard, yeh ive heard its a pain
[19:58] <Guest15076> on unbuntu live mode i get the 1024x768 res when installed i dont
[19:59] <Guest15076> i had mint 16 running on it 1024 res i updated to mint 17 and lost it back to 640x480
[19:59] <Patrick032986> hello I was wondering if it was possible to put ubuntu on my phone I have a LG Optimus Fuel?
[19:59] <OerHeks> SiS was always a nasty videocard, bad supported :-(
[19:59] <lain_> Guest15076: what is your problem with SIS gpu?
[20:00] <k1l_> Patrick032986: you want the desktop or the ubuntu-touch?
[20:00] <bekks> Guest15076: So you are using Mint currentlx?
[20:00] <bekks> *currently
[20:00] <Patrick032986> touch
[20:00] <albert> EriC^^: no luck cant even right click on screen
[20:00] <k1l_> !touch | Patrick032986 see this special channel
[20:01] <EriC^^> albert: xrandr still doesn't work?
[20:01] <EriC^^> albert: maybe you need to reboot
[20:01] <Guest15076> xp remains on it still, had mint 17 lost my res got rid back to ubuntu, then updated and back to low res
[20:01] <Guest15076> if that makes sense
[20:01] <albert> size 800x600 not found
[20:02] <EriC^^> albert: try only xrandr
[20:02] <bekks> Guest15076: So are you using Ubuntu or Mint, currently?
[20:02] <pepe__> d
[20:02] <pepe__> d
[20:02] <pepe__> d
[20:02] <pepe__> d
[20:02] <pepe__> d
[20:02] <albert> EriC^^: says i can only do 680x400
[20:02] <pepe__> d
[20:02] <pepe__> d
[20:02] <unopaste> pepe__ you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[20:02] <Guest15076> ubuntu its installed but after login page goes blank, so im in live unbuntu mode
[20:03] <EriC^^> albert: maximum is 640?
[20:03] <albert> EriC^^: yes
[20:03] <EriC^^> or it's the only one listed?
[20:03] <EriC^^> ok
[20:03] <albert> EriC^^: only one listed
[20:03] <EriC^^> what does it say to the right?
[20:03] <atlas-hive> Guest15076: further explain. so you lost you resolution on mint so you went back to Ubuntu and sudo update (or upgrade?) and lost your resolution again?
[20:04] <EriC^^> albert: which resolution do you use usually?
[20:04] <albert> EriC^^: 73.0*
[20:04] <atlas-hive> Guest15076: what kind of hardware are you using or model pc/lappy?
[20:04] <nedal> Hi, I need help in a very basic and simple C program with gcc. could somebody help please
[20:04] <albert> EriC^^: 1920x something i think
[20:05] <Guest15076> 173 ghx celeron 1 gig ram
[20:05] <EriC^^> ok try gtf 1920 1080 60
[20:05] <EriC^^> albert: then take what's written in the term and copy it to xrandr --newmode "1920x1080" 172.80  1920 2040 2248 2576  1080 1081 1084 1118  -HSync +Vsync
[20:05] <nedal> ...
[20:05] <atlas-hive> Guest15076: holy shit thats so old school shit lol
[20:05] <trism> nedal: what is the problem?
[20:06] <albert> EriC^^: ok ?
[20:06] <Guest15076> its 7r old lappy mate
[20:06] <albert> EriC^^:  a bunch of numbers
[20:06] <atlas-hive> Guest15076: so im assuming that when you fresh install, everything works right? just when you update or upgrade is soes to shit and your resolution goes away right?
[20:06] <EriC^^> albert: type the gtf command, and then copy what it gives you so you end up with xrandr --newmode "19..." <gtf stuff here>
[20:06] <k1l_> atlas-hive: no need for all that "shit" in here.
[20:06] <Guest15076> yes atlas spot on
[20:07] <atlas-hive> k1l_: sorry
[20:07] <atlas-hive> Guest15076: are you just sudo updating?
[20:07] <Finetundra> Guest15076, perhaps try a lighter distro than base ubuntu?
[20:07] <nedal> I want to do a table with aleatory  numbers but it doesn t work... I know that I have a problem in my program but don t know where
[20:07] <atlas-hive> Guest15076: you can try #!
[20:08] <nedal> trism_
[20:08] <atlas-hive> Guest15076: thats a pretty nice light weight distro
[20:08] <Guest15076> in this live mode i get the res
[20:08] <amjam> Hi all. How do I install firmware-b43-installer?
[20:08] <amjam> it's a driver I need for my wifi card.
[20:08] <albert> EriC^^: failed to parse as a new mode
[20:09] <OerHeks> !bcm | amjam check this page
[20:09] <Guest15076> so im guesing 1 gig ram not good for ubuntu
[20:09] <trism> nedal: you may want to ask in ##c
[20:10] <atlas-hive> Guest15076: so your hardware works obviously, maybe updating is using a newer package that is not agreeing with you hardware. do you know your exact gpu name/model?
[20:10] <nedal> trism how to join it ?
[20:10] <atlas-hive> Guest15076: well which ubuntu are you using?
[20:10] <Goethe2> Guest15076, did you try lubuntu?
[20:10] <Guest15076> intel celeron 173ghz
[20:11] <bekks> Guest15076: Live mode uses the same amount of RAM ;)
[20:11] <trism> nedal: /join ##c
[20:11] <EriC^^> albert: nvidia-settings doesn't work at all?
[20:11] <nedal> trism thanks
[20:11] <Guest15076> inter celeron 1.73ghz 1 gig ram,
[20:12] <albert> EriC^^: at 640x480 but i cant do anything cant see anything on the sides
[20:12] <atlas-hive> Guest15076: so intergrated gpu from celeron proc?
[20:12] <Guest15076> u lost me bit atlas but if u asking graphics card is on motheboard
[20:13] <albert> EriC^^: failed to parse 1920x1080_60.0 as a mode specification
[20:13] <atlas-hive> Guest15076: so your gpu is intergraded into the motherboard right? its not a add on card?
[20:13] <Guest15076> yeah on motherboard grahpics card,
[20:14] <knockknock> Greetings
[20:14] <atlas-hive> Guest15076: what motherboard are you using?
[20:14] <Guest15076> aint got a glue atlas
[20:15] <Saleem> how to give allow access to disk partition to other users in ubuntu 12.04
[20:15] <EriC^^> albert: maybe try to press alt+f7 after launching nvidia-settings
[20:15] <EriC^^> albert: you can move the window around, alt+f8 to resize it
[20:15] <EriC^^> albert: you might be able to set the resolution
[20:15] <atlas-hive> Guest15076: well if you can your model motherboard, you can find out the actual model of the gpu and research which driver you need to find
[20:16] <knockknock> I imagine that this may be the wrong channel for this discussion, but does anyone know if it possible to access freenode via tor, I have tried setting up for ages
[20:16] <knockknock> I feel stukc
[20:16] <knockknock> *stuck
[20:16] <nisstyre> knockknock: you need SASL
[20:16] <nisstyre> also #freenode is the right channel
[20:16] <k1l_> knockknock: see #freenode for help with freenode
[20:16] <knockknock> how do I set up SASL whilst going through tor?
[20:16] <knockknock> thx
[20:16] <Saleem> how to allow users to add folder in disk partitions in ubuntu 12.04
[20:16] <Guest15076> interl celron 5301.73 ghz
[20:17] <bekks> Guest15076: Thats the CPU, not the motherboard :)
[20:17] <daftykins> 5 terahertz would be nice
[20:18] <Saleem> can anyone answer this issue
[20:18] <Guest15076> whats the requirements for ubuntu
[20:18] <EriC^^> albert: try sudo nvidia-xconfig --mode=1280x1024
[20:19] <samthewildone> !rarcrack
[20:19] <atlas-hive> Guest15076: thats just the speed of the proc. model number please
[20:19] <bekks> samthewildone: Wrong network.
[20:20] <samthewildone> bekks, its in repos
[20:20] <cloudgeek> ubuntu 12.04, I using expect script for command line arugment for installtion of package, it is not working , http://paste.ubuntu.com/9319599/
[20:20] <Finetundra> Saleem, in my experience i believe the correct course would be to open the user and groups list , go to advanced options and add the privileges there. thats my best guess
[20:21] <ei3> Hey all.
[20:22] <Finetundra> Guest15076, again, i suggest you go with something lighter like lubuntu or xubuntu. however i will provide a link to a system requirements page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[20:22] <Guest15076> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements on that page near top says 700 proceser 512 ram
[20:23] <Guest15076> thanks for link. at the top of that page says 700 processer 512 ram
[20:24] <xangua> Guest15076: yes, minimum, not recommended
[20:24] <John_John_> i have xubuntu and i really cant chabge the default web broweser to google chrome!!!!
[20:24] <Guest15076> yeah min so thought 1 gig ram 1.73 thingy be ok
[20:25] <daftykins> Guest15076: anything single core is absolutely terrible today
[20:25] <Guest15076> yeah its single core
[20:25] <xangua> Guest15076: and a dual core processor, if you go for unity desktop
[20:25] <paul__> Good evening boys and girls
[20:26] <paul__> I'm having an issue on Xubuntu, I wonder if someone can help?
[20:26] <paul__> Here is the issue:
[20:26] <paul__> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/curlftpfs/+bug/1267749
[20:26] <John_John_> me too lol
[20:26] <EriC^^> John_John_: chrome > settings > default browser on the bottom
[20:26] <John_John_> i did that
[20:27] <John_John_> no good
[20:27] <Guest15076> Ubuntu Desktop Edition      700 MHz processor (about Intel Celeron or better)     512 MiB RAM (system memory) . so my lappy dont meet them sorry to be a div
[20:27] <John_John_> every time i open it asks to make default
[20:27] <Finetundra> Guest15076, like xangua said those are not the recommended only the minimum. i have myself tried something similar to what you are. i found that xubuntu worked better for an older machine like yours
[20:27] <DJones> paul__: 13.10 isn't a supported release anymore, you are aware of that?
[20:27] <paul__> Ah yes, well I'm not actually on 13.10
[20:27] <EriC^^> John_John_: say yes and always make it default
[20:27] <John_John_> i go to preffered apps and select it and after restart is unselected again
[20:27] <paul__> But that seems to be the same issue
[20:28] <DJones> paul__: ok, fair enough
[20:28] <paul__> I'm on the latest Xubuntu, but I think it's the same problem.
[20:28] <paul__> It seems to be a problem with libcurl-gnutls
[20:28] <paul__> Does anyone know how I can downgrade that package?
[20:28] <Guest15076> it run mint 16 ok and resoultion was ok and then 16  was out date to 17 and then went to pieces. lost res everything went massive
[20:28] <Finetundra> Guest15076, but there is also lubuntu and probably many more lightweight distros that will probably work better for you than base ubuntu
[20:29] <paul__> I've tried: sudo apt-get install libcurl3-gnutls=7.29.0
[20:29] <EriC^^> albert: try sudo nvidia-xconfig --mode=1280x1024
[20:29] <paul__> Xubuntu is very lightweight
[20:30] <Guest15076> xubuntu is it lightweight coz its got nothing like libreoffice and stuff mint 16 had it all run ok till 17 came out
[20:30] <albert> EriC^^:
[20:31] <paul__> No, it's leightweight because it uses the KDE desktop
[20:31] <albert> EriC^^: unable to locate x config file. new file writtin to /etc/x11
[20:31] <EriC^^> albert: great
[20:31] <EriC^^> albert: try to reboot
[20:32] <paul__> But Xubuntu uses XFCE which is even more lightweight
[20:32] <albert> EriC^^: i just rebooted
[20:32] <userings> KDE is light?
[20:32] <paul__> Compared to Unity ;)
[20:32] <EriC^^> albert: after running the nvidia-xconfig ?
[20:32] <albert> ok brb
[20:32] <EriC^^> ok
[20:33] <John_John_> can i install another desktop alongside xubuntu ?
[20:33] <Guest15076> aplolgizes ro everyone just new to linux and finding my way
[20:33] <EriC^^> John_John_: yes
[20:33] <paul__> Yes you can install loads of desktops
[20:33] <paul__> at the command line type
[20:33] <paul__> sudo apt-get install xfce4-desktop
[20:33] <paul__> And then logout
[20:33] <John_John_> is there any good non buggy stable desktop for 14.04 around ?
[20:34] <paul__> Then on the login screen find the option to select XFCE
[20:34] <Goethe2> John_John_: gnome shell?
[20:34] <John_John_> i dont know you tell me
[20:34] <Guest15076> theres 2 xubuntu
[20:34] <John_John_> i prefer gnome s
[20:34] <John_John_> yes
[20:34] <beltorak> hi all; is there a way (by creating a custom package or hook or some exotic hack) that I can replace a package file with one of my own whenever there's an update? I want to replace /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/kscreenlocker_greet with a shell script that runs xscreensaver
[20:35] <John_John_> i have xubuntu now
[20:35] <paul__> xubuntu is awesome
[20:35] <Guest15076> how you liking xubuntu john john
[20:35] <Goethe2> John_John_, : currently trying unity, but i think i will switch back to gnome3. Gnome3  i really like how it changes my workflow. More able to concentrate at the job at hand.
[20:36] <John_John_> i have xubuntu now and i like it
[20:36] <John_John_> but this bug annoys me
[20:36] <John_John_> i want to make default browser chrome
[20:36] <John_John_> an di cant
[20:36] <atlas-hive>  /join programming
[20:37] <Guest15076> can i download linux xbuntu and use a program to get it onto usb dongle
[20:38] <tombtc> can I change my ubuntu 14.04 to xubuntu without loosing any data?
[20:38] <Finetundra> Guest15076, yes. you'll probably like UNetbootin. and you probably want the 32bit(i386) xubuntu
[20:38] <daftykins> Guest15076: yes, what OS are you on now?
[20:38] <tombtc> or is that just a xfce install?
[20:38] <daftykins> i second the choice of 32-bit
[20:38] <k1l_> tombtc: intsall the xubuntu-desktop package
[20:39] <paul__> If you want xubuntu on a USB key you might as well look at Puppy Linux
[20:39] <Guest15076> ubuntu live mode coz ubuntu normal wont boot past login screen
[20:39] <tombtc> k1l_:  thanks
[20:39] <k1l_> Guest15076: i suggest Lubuntu for old and slow hardware
[20:40] <tombtc> xubuntu=xfce, Lubuntu=?
[20:40] <paul__> LXDE
[20:40] <k1l_> !lubuntu
[20:40] <tombtc> any with fluxbox?
[20:40] <Guest15076> think i chuck the lappy out the window and get new one,  but my pc is ok
[20:40] <paul__> You can install any of these desktops and switch between them
[20:40] <paul__> You do'nt have to insall everything
[20:40] <albert> EriC^^: no luck :(
[20:40] <tombtc> cool
[20:41] <EriC^^> John_John_: check the workaround https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/902661
[20:42] <Guest15076> got u netbootin says need application to open it
[20:43] <EriC^^> albert: you could uninstall the driver
[20:43] <dino> Hello guys
[20:43] <EriC^^> albert: and try the other driver from that ppa website
[20:43] <EriC^^> xorg-edgers
[20:43] <Guest70568> if i installed ubuntu next to the windows, how do i get data from the windows ?
[20:43] <albert> EriC^^: how do i uninstall it been trying
[20:43] <EriC^^> albert: it's still using the 640 resolution?
[20:43] <Guest15076> what application do i need to open unetbootin
[20:44] <EriC^^> albert: sudo ./NVIDIA-.... --uninstall
[20:44] <albert> EriC^^: i have no choice
[20:44] <daftykins> Guest15076: if you're on ubuntu now, just use 'dd' to put the ISO onto a flash drive. it's simple.
[20:44] <Guest15076> whats dd
[20:45] <EriC^^> diskdump
[20:45] <albert> EriC^^: Now is old one back
[20:45] <albert> EriC^^: its uninstalled
[20:45] <EriC^^> ok
[20:45] <EriC^^> albert: maybe we should have uninstalled the old one?
[20:45] <Guest15076> where find a dump
[20:45] <k1l_> Guest15076: use "usb disk creator"
[20:45] <albert> EriC^^: makes some sence
[20:46] <k1l_> Guest15076: or see this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/59551/how-to-burn-a-iso-to-a-usb-device
[20:46] <daftykins> Guest15076: a program. open a terminal with your flash drive plugged in, run "sudo fdisk -l" to locate what /dev/sdX name of your flash drive - then run "sudo dd if=/path/to/ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=2M"
[20:46] <albert> EriC^^: now if i reboot i have no driver ?
[20:46] <daftykins> ugh the inaccurate use of 'burn' within a flash drive context, how irritatingly amateurish
[20:46] <EriC^^> albert: type sudo lshw -C video | grep driver
[20:46] <Guest15076> i can do it on windows 7, but lost on here
[20:47] <k1l_> Guest15076: on ubuntu?
[20:47] <albert> EriC^^: bunch of i/o errors
[20:48] <Guest15076> on ubuntu live mode now yeah
[20:48] <John_John_> EriC^^,  thanks :)))
[20:48] <k1l_> Guest15076: you cant make a new live system on the usb you are just using
[20:48] <John_John_> i solved it :)
[20:49] <John_John_> what font do you use for development ?
[20:49] <EriC^^> John_John_: great! :)
[20:49] <John_John_> thanks again :)
[20:49] <daftykins> Guest15076: well i did try to ask what your host OS is for making up this flash drive but you didn't respond... so which is it?
[20:49] <EriC^^> albert: try dpkg -l | grep nvidia
[20:49] <Guest15076> want to download xubuntu while in ubuntu live mode
[20:49] <daftykins> Guest15076: no that's not wise
[20:50] <k1l_> Guest15076: i still suggest lubuntu for your old machine
[20:50] <albert> EriC^^: ok
[20:50] <John_John_> any fonts that have good quality in xubuntu ? like consolas or monaco ?
[20:50] <albert> EriC^^: shows a driver and settings from ubuntu i believw
[20:51] <bubbasaures> John_John_, All these desktops have the same repo access tons of fonts
[20:51] <EriC^^> John_John_: no idea
[20:51] <EriC^^> albert: does the nvidia driver show up?
[20:51] <EriC^^> with a "ii" at the start?
[20:52] <albert> EriC^^: yes
[20:52] <EriC^^> albert: try sudo apt-get purge nvidia-*
[20:53] <nathan_> how do you create a text file called nathans file? it needs to have a space between nathans and file
[20:53] <albert> EriC^^: its removing DKMS modules
[20:53] <EriC^^> nathan_: touch nathans\ file
[20:54] <albert> EriC^^: all done
[20:54] <nathan_> cheers
[20:54] <EriC^^> albert: ok
[20:54] <Guest15076> if i upgraded my ram to say 2gig would it run ubuntu
[20:54] <Guest15076> but with a sis graphics card my res still be poor
[20:54] <EriC^^> albert: we can try the xorg-edgers ppa
[20:55] <albert> EriC^^: sure lets try i guess
[20:55] <EriC^^> ok
[20:55] <daftykins> Guest15076: honestly i would throw that thing away. life is too short.
[20:55] <EriC^^> type sudo apt-add-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa
[20:55] <Guest15076> the sis thing yeah not the best
[20:57] <Guest15076> does ubuntu, xubuntu, lubuntu need security
[20:57] <k1l_> Guest15076: sis was never supported that well when it was new. and its not getting better since most of that hardware is "old" now and not used that much anymore. with some intel, nvidia cards you would have more luck now
[20:57] <daftykins> Guest15076: no the whole thing is terrible. SiS graphics is the worst, yes
[20:57] <k1l_> Guest15076: lubuntu is made for old and slow hardware. give it a try
[20:57] <Guest15076> my pc got nvidia in it
[20:58] <albert> EriC^^: ok thats done
[20:58] <plasmasnake> i'm having some pretty annoying issues with my dual-monitor setup, trying to get ubuntu to treat my right-hand side screen as the primary... Xorg always sets the botton left corner of the left-hand screen to position 0x0, and it causes all sorts of annoyances like Ubuntu always putting the desktop icons on my left screen. the most i've been able to achieve is to get the unity panel to appear on my right
[20:58] <plasmasnake> screen
[20:58] <EriC^^> ok, type sudo apt-get update
[20:58] <Guest15076> does these ubuntu, xbuntu, lubuntu need security
[20:58] <k1l_> Guest15076: rephrase please
[20:59] <plasmasnake> does anybody know how i would go about submitting a bug report for that? Xorg doesn't seem to accept negative offsets (to allow me to set the corner of the right-hand screen to 0x0), so i'm not sure which ubuntu package i would report the bug for (lightdm? ubuntu-desktop?)
[20:59] <albert> EriC^^: done
[20:59] <Guest15076> do these ubuntu, xbuntu, lubuntu need security like anti virus and firewall programs
[20:59] <EriC^^> ok type sudo apt-get install nvidia-current nvidia-settings
[21:00] <k1l_> Guest15076: no. not like windows.
[21:00] <k1l_> !antivirus
[21:00] <Guest15076> thank u, what bout firewalls
[21:01] <k1l_> Guest15076: dont need that. its more important what programs you run.
[21:01] <Guest15076> dont run wine
[21:01] <albert> EriC^^: it failed
[21:01] <EriC^^> albert: what'd it say?
[21:02] <bittyx-desktop> If I want to put Ubuntu on a USB drive (for installation purposes), which filesystem should the drive use? FAT32?
[21:02] <k1l_> bittyx-desktop: that doesnt matter
[21:03] <Guest15076> thanks to everyone
[21:03] <albert> EriC^^: something about wine and some packages have  not been created
[21:03] <kokut> Hello, anyone knows if there is a way to use an ipod as a flash drive?
[21:03] <k1l_> bittyx-desktop: you need to "burn" it onto a usb. that will erase the filesystem anyway
[21:03] <EriC^^> albert: try sudo apt-get -f install
[21:03] <daftykins> kokut: for just the odd file, or?
[21:03] <daftykins> which model?
[21:03] <k1l_> albert: please pastebin the errors
[21:03] <Guest15076> trying figure out how to get it to usb now
[21:04] <kokut> daftykins: i need to find a way to trick another device into "thinking" it is a USB flash drive
[21:04] <daftykins> kokut: what? why?
[21:04] <kokut> daftykins: ipod nano 6th gen
[21:04] <bittyx-desktop> k1l_: Ah, okay, thanks.
[21:04] <kokut> daftykins: its something to plug to an old TV it only accepts USB flash drives and i dont have a flash drive but i do have an old ipod
[21:05] <albert> EriC^^: it said  0 upgraded 26 not updated
[21:05] <daftykins> kokut: would it not have been easier to plug it in and find out, than ask? :)
[21:05] <Guest15076> cant i open u netbootin in live mode
[21:05] <kokut> daftykins: what you mean
[21:05] <k1l_> Guest15076: you dont need unetbootin
[21:05] <EriC^^> albert: try sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:05] <daftykins> Guest15076: for the third and final time, what is your host OS? don't use a live session
[21:05] <k1l_> Guest15076: do you have a 2nd usb drive?
[21:05] <albert> i typed pastebin again how do kill it
[21:05] <EriC^^> ctrl+c
[21:06] <Guest15076> xp and ubuntu
[21:06] <k1l_> albert: ctrl+c
[21:06] <Guest15076> ok ok daft
 Guest15076: do you have a 2nd usb drive?
[21:06] <daftykins> Guest15076: so download the ISO onto windows and use universal USB installer from pendrivelinux.com
[21:06] <k1l_> !paste | albert
[21:06] <Guest15076> yeah 2nd drive but to small for linux download
[21:07] <k1l_> Guest15076: how small?
[21:07] <EriC^^> how small?
[21:07] <albert> EriC^^: ok looks like updating some video stuff
[21:07] <EriC^^> sounds good
[21:07] <Guest15076> 1 gig pen drive got ages ago
[21:07] <EriC^^> that's plenty
[21:07] <bekks> 1G is more than enough for an Ubuntu ISO.
[21:08] <nathan_> how do i create a file name with a space in between them
[21:08] <EriC^^> nathan_: you just asked :D
[21:08] <agent_white> DONT :D
[21:08] <k1l_> nathan_: we already answered that
[21:08] <daftykins> nathan_: that was a bad idea the other day when you asked and a bad idea now
[21:08] <Guest15076> xbuntu 14.04 or 10
[21:08] <EriC^^> nathan_: touch file\ name , or touch "file name"
[21:08] <bubbasaures> heh, vivid daily is 1.2 gigs
[21:08] <agent_white> Don't be _that guy_ who puts spaced in file names.
[21:08] <albert> EriC^^: ok thats done bunch of video stuff
[21:09] <EriC^^> albert: ok, try to install the nvidia-current again
[21:09] <kokut> Is there a way to use ipod nano as USB flash drive?
[21:09] <daftykins> kokut: just plug it in and find out :P
[21:09] <daftykins> or google for whether that model supports USB mass storage mode
[21:10] <albert> EriC^^: said could not install possble unstable package
[21:10] <albert> and other reaseons
[21:10] <k1l_> albert: put it into pastebin
[21:10] <albert> k1l_: how ?
[21:10] <k1l_> albert: mark all text, copy it, open the webpage paste.ubuntu.com paste it in there and send it. show the new link here
[21:11] <Guest15076> what link is it for xbuntu got a torrent and mirror site
[21:11] <albert> k1l_: im in terminal cant copy pastetr
[21:11] <daftykins> Guest15076: links are on their website.
[21:12] <albert> k1l_: whats the command line
[21:12] <daftykins> command | pastebinit
[21:12] <k1l_> use pastebinit then
[21:13] <Guest15076> im on the mirror downlod xbuntu but saying 2 types
[21:13] <EriC^^> albert: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current | pastebinit
[21:14] <albert> pastebin.com/5AjK526G
[21:15] <Guest15076> http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/trusty/release/.  is that just repeated twice
[21:15] <JustEnki> is this a place where I would ask about socat?
[21:15] <kokut> Hello, is there a way to make an ipod act exactly as an USB flash drive? I need another device to recognize it as such but it's not working (it works with a normal usb flash drive tho)
[21:15] <k1l_> albert: "pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[21:16] <Ilhami> hello
[21:16] <Ilhami> the most lightweight DE for Ubuntu?
[21:16] <bekks> kokut: No, there isnt.
[21:16] <daftykins> kokut: i already told you, either look it up for USB mass storage support or plug it in to check.
[21:16] <Ilhami> xfce ?
[21:16] <Guest15076> its ok ok worked it out
[21:16] <Ilhami> or KDE?
[21:16] <NegativeFlare> Ilhami: LXDE
[21:16] <k1l_> !lubuntu | Ilhami
[21:16] <Ilhami> LXDE ok
[21:16] <Ilhami> thanks
[21:16] <Ilhami> sudo apt-get install lxde?
[21:17] <NegativeFlare> Ilhami: sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[21:17] <Ilhami> ok and should I remove unity ? or will it just overwrite?
[21:17] <NegativeFlare> Don't remove anything until after you get into lxde
[21:17] <albert> www.pastebin.com/nXjmpMKu
[21:17] <JustEnki> is asking about socat too general a linux question for this channel?
[21:18] <Ilhami>  NegativeFlare aaah now I remember.. :) sorry
[21:18] <Ilhami> I dont have to remove it
[21:18] <JustEnki> I'm running ubuntu which is why I came here
[21:18] <daftykins> JustEnki: never heard of it but better to find a channel for whatever context that's in, or a channel for it itself if one exists
[21:19] <IdleOne> JustEnki: you can try, might also try #ubuntu-server. My guess is ##linux will have more people familiar with socat
[21:20] <albert> EriC^^: any ideas?
[21:20] <JustEnki> okay thanks
[21:20] <EriC^^> did you try the nvidia-331?
[21:20] <albert> EriC^^: how? i cant goto web
[21:21] <EriC^^> sudo apt-get install nvidia-331
[21:22] <Ilhami> you sure that's the right one?
[21:22] <Ilhami> be careful I'd say.
[21:22] <albert> EriC^^: you never mentioned that one
[21:22] <Ilhami> that driver
[21:22] <EriC^^> Ilhami: ?
[21:23] <albert> Ilhami: ?
[21:23] <Ilhami> that package... is the correct one for him?
[21:23] <EriC^^> beats me
[21:23] <EriC^^> lol :D
[21:23] <Ilhami> drivers are pretty critical. jus' saying :D
[21:23] <EriC^^> Ilhami: why are you spooking us out?
[21:23] <albert> EriC^^: ouch
[21:23] <EriC^^> albert: i've no idea when it comes to nvidia drivers :D
[21:23] <EriC^^> i saw that nvidia-current was 304
[21:24] <EriC^^> and the one from nvidia.com you tried earlier is older than it
[21:24] <albert> EriC^^: if we could get back the way it was would be good
[21:24] <EriC^^> i think the 331 is the latest
[21:24] <EriC^^> and it should support your card
[21:24] <EriC^^> hold on
[21:25] <albert> EriC^^: or i will just reinstall lol
[21:25] <albert> k
[21:25] <Ilhami> what is your graphics card?
[21:26] <albert> Ilhami: geforce 6200 le
[21:27] <Ilhami> albert, do you know nvidia has a website with all drivers for your graphics card ?
[21:27] <albert> Ilhami: duh non of them worked
[21:27] <Ilhami> http://askubuntu.com/questions/82100/how-do-i-install-the-nvidia-driver-for-a-geforce-6200
[21:27] <Ilhami> did you try this?
[21:28] <albert> EriC^^: its done looked like it worked
[21:28] <albert> should i reboot
[21:28] <EriC^^> yeah
[21:28] <Ilhami> always reboot after driver update or install
[21:31] <Ilhami> sudo apt-get autoremove --purge unity unity-common unity-services unity-lens-\* unity-scope-\* unity-webapps-\* gnome-control-center-unity hud libunity-core-6\* libunity-misc4 libunity-webapps\* appmenu-gtk appmenu-gtk3 appmenu-qt\* overlay-scrollbar\* activity-log-manager-control-center firefox-globalmenu thunderbird-globalmenu libufe-xidgetter0 xul-ext-unity xul-ext-webaccounts webaccounts-extension-common xul-ext-websites-integration
[21:31] <Ilhami> gnome-control-center gnome-session
[21:31] <Ilhami> I will use this to remove Unity, ok?
[21:31] <Ilhami> NegativeFlare
[21:33] <NegativeFlare> Ilhami: hm?
[21:33] <Ilhami> I did it :D
[21:33] <NegativeFlare> ohhh ok
[21:33] <Ilhami> its running
[21:33] <kolossen> How do i check if I have blueooth?
[21:33] <Ilhami> kolossen, you could check your laptop specs :D
[21:33] <Ilhami> lol
[21:34] <Ilhami> but there are probably commands for it as well
[21:34] <k1l_> kolossen: "lspci" and see if its there
[21:34] <Ilhami> sudo lspci
[21:34] <Ilhami> try this
[21:35] <k1l_> Ilhami: stop
[21:35] <Ilhami> ?
[21:35] <Ilhami> stop what?
[21:35] <k1l_> Ilhami: dont tell users to use sudo where its not needed at all.
[21:35] <Ilhami> will it kill him?
[21:36] <k1l_> Ilhami: you spoil the whole idea of sudo if you tell users to use it all the time. yes that will get the users into trouble
[21:36] <Ilhami> whatever
[21:37] <Ilhami> kolossen, you could also try "dmesg | grep Blue"
[21:37] <astyle> yo
[21:40] <kokut> Hello, is there a way to make an ipod act exactly as an USB flash drive? I need another device to recognize it as such but it's not working (it works with a normal usb flash drive tho)
[21:40] <kolossen> hcitool scan
[21:40] <kolossen> Device is not available: No such device
[21:41] <kolossen> Ilhami, that worked, a lot of bt stuff show up
[21:42] <bubbasaures> kokut, All you can do is wipe it and or format it to what the tv will recognize if your lucky, and not sure how ubuntu is related.
[21:42] <kokut> bubbasaures: bc im in ubuntu and i dont know how to do what you just said?
[21:43] <bubbasaures> kokut, That's good neither do we really, that's an apple device, and your in way left field, buy a usb there cheap.
[21:44] <bubbasaures> I would try ##linux if you're registered with freenode
[21:44] <kokut> bubbasaures: why would i buy a usb if i could find a use for this ipods?
[21:44] <kokut> bubbasaures: also i dont want to spend any money
[21:46] <bubbasaures> That's a straw man argument err and really makes no sense. The question is what is your time worth, seems the money generated in time rather than trying to chase a whim is more logical.
[21:46] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB kokut try this
[21:48] <kokut> bubbasaures: yea i know the question is very technical and i would probably have to write some drivers myself but its fun and it could aslo be very useful for some people
[21:49] <kokut> bubbasaures: so far i know it only works with regular USB flash drives
[21:49] <bubbasaures> kokut, Sure, try the link, It is not as if I want you to fail. ;)
[21:50] <bazhang> http://www.wikihow.com/Use-an-iPod-As-a-Flash-Drive kokut
[21:51] <kolossen> cany someone help me with bluetooth
[21:51] <kolossen> how do i turn it on/off
[21:51] <kolossen> how can i scan for devices?
[21:52] <kokut> bazhang: that is very interesting, gotta try that on itunes, gonna boot into windows, brb :D
[21:52] <k1l_> kolossen: which ubuntu are you on?
[21:52] <gerced> @kolossen g
[21:52] <bubbasaures> bazhang, heh, in the ipods menu.
[21:52] <k1l_> kolossen: please show the output of "rfkill list" in a apstebin
[21:53] <kolossen> k1l: how do i check my ubuntu? i think 14.04
[21:53] <k1l_> kolossen: "lsb_release -d"
[21:54] <linuxd> how to log in root account?
[21:54] <k1l_> linuxd: why would you need that?
[21:54] <VanceX> linuxd: Use sudo
[21:54] <kolossen> http://lpaste.net/115388
[21:55] <linuxd> i'm tired from having to input password
[21:55] <kolossen> k1l_, 14.04.1 LTS
[21:55] <k1l_> kolossen: unity?
[21:55] <Ilhami> linuxed then go into root
[21:55] <kolossen> k1l_, not sure. just downloaded the most obvious dowbnload from the homepage.
[21:55] <k1l_> linuxd: you can start a root-shell with sudo -i
[21:56] <kolossen> (linux noob as you have guessed already)
[21:56] <k1l_> kolossen: is there a starter bar at the left?
[21:56] <linuxd> k1l_: ok,thanx
[21:57] <k1l_> kolossen: http://imgur.com/a/9iaLJ  see this to say which desktop yours is
[22:00] <Bleezy209> Erik
[22:01] <Daghdha> What is this Ubuntu One accountbullshit? I can't install free software without clicking a 'Buy' button and joing ubuntu one cult?
[22:02] <Bleezy209> Ki1
[22:02] <k1l_> Daghdha: with that attitude i dont think it motivates others to help you
[22:02] <OerHeks> Daghdha, LoLz, how would you 'buy' without?
[22:02] <bazhang> !ubuntuone
[22:03] <___pabl_o> !help
[22:03] <bazhang> Daghdha, it's dead, lose the attitude
[22:03] <___pabl_o> !patience
[22:03] <Daghdha> Uhm
[22:03] <Daghdha> dead?
[22:03] <bazhang> read above
[22:03] <OerHeks> you would still need it to buy a subscription/software, bazhang
[22:03] <kolossen> k1l_, Unity then.
[22:04] <Daghdha> I have to login with an aubuntu one account for Ubuntu SOftware Center
[22:04] <Daghdha> Trying to install Plex
[22:04] <k1l_> kolossen: so you see a bluetooth symbol in the system tray?
[22:04] <Bleezy209> Erik^^ it's Albert so didn't work bud
[22:05] <k1l_> Daghdha: if plex did choose to not maintaine a package in the usual repos but just with the software center , so what is the issue?
[22:05] <kolossen> k1l_, system tray? you mean upper right corner? i dont see it anyhow
[22:05] <Daghdha> The issue is i have to register a ubuntu one account to install something from the ubuntu software center
[22:06] <ikonia> ubuntu one is dead
[22:06] <k1l_> kolossen: hmm, so is there some issue in dmesg?
[22:06] <ikonia> so log a bug against that software package
[22:06] <k1l_> ubuntu one is not dead. just some services from ubuntu one are off. like the filesync
[22:06] <redwdc> quit
[22:07] <kolossen> http://lpaste.net/115388
[22:07] <kolossen> k1l_, ^
[22:07] <k1l_> Daghdha: again: talk to the maintainer if he did only make the package support softwarecenter if you dont like that. but just flaming in here will not help anyway
[22:07] <Daghdha> But ikonia i get a ;login of create account' when i try to install plex
[22:07] <ikonia> Daghdha: plex does not come from ubuntu
[22:07] <Daghdha> SO you are saying the package is in ubuntu one?
[22:07] <ikonia> Daghdha: no, I'm saying plex is not provided by ubuntu
[22:08] <ikonia> Daghdha: so that package is not coming from ubuntu - it's coming from a 3rd party repo
[22:08] <Daghdha> The promt says: Ybuntu software center -> login with Ubuntu one
[22:08] <kolossen> this has to be done:
[22:08] <kolossen> sudo apt-get install bluez python-gobject python-dbus
[22:08] <kolossen> ?
[22:08] <k1l_> Daghdha: listen: plex did only allow to provide a package through software center (maybe the want to have money later on or for a pro-app). so stop making a drama now!
[22:08] <ikonia> hang on, am I thinking of plesk
[22:08] <ikonia> ahh the plex package is from plex
[22:08] <Daghdha> plex is a media server
[22:08] <ikonia> it's not ubuntu
[22:09] <ikonia> so basically it's been added as a repo so you can see it in software center
[22:09] <ikonia> you'll need to log a bug to plex
[22:09] <k1l_> Daghdha: and yes: you need an account to install some software there. so do it or stop flaming
[22:09] <kolossen> k1l_, http://lpaste.net/115388
[22:09] <ikonia> Daghdha: there are notes of others coplaining on the plex forum, it's the plex team not removing this
[22:09] <Daghdha> Okay, but i did find plex in Ubuntu Software Center. Does that mean not all software in there is going trough ubuntu?
[22:09] <kolossen> dmesg|tail shows some errors
[22:09] <ikonia> Daghdha: no, software center is just a package manager to display your repos
[22:09] <ikonia> Daghdha: you can add any repos you want
[22:10] <k1l_> kolossen: dmesg tail is about sdb, which is a usb device?
[22:10] <Daghdha> Damn, i thought it was secure stuff from ubuntu only :(
[22:10] <ikonia> niope
[22:10] <ikonia> nope
[22:10] <kolossen> ok
[22:11] <kolossen> k1l_, i don have much idea here. can't i just get the status of the bluetooth easily?
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[22:11] <unopaste> black_fridQt you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[22:11] <ikonia> sorry for the slow response
[22:11] <k1l_> kolossen: hmm. bluetooth looks good. are you sure you dont have the bluetooth symbol in systray? it looks like ">B"
[22:11] <Daghdha> Well, someone is having fun.
[22:11] <reisio> ikonia: I forgive you
[22:12] <kolossen> systray==where volume, time etc?
[22:12] <kolossen> no there is no >B
[22:12] <k1l_> yes.
[22:14] <wpd> I'm having some trouble with my apt-get sources... starting with "Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/main armhf Packages"
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[22:14] <unopaste> aohsx you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[22:14] <Daghdha> ok thanks for link in IM :D i will install tomorrow. Sorry for being a dick, i though all SOftware Center stuff now required ubuntu one accounts.
[22:14] <wpd> but "grep -r armhf /etc/apt returns nothing.
[22:15] <Daghdha> Well, seems you have your work cut out for you today. Trolls be flooding. Good day.
[22:16] <Bleezy209> Erik^^ hi
[22:16] <k1l_> wpd: are you on arm hardware?
[22:19] <wpd> k1l_: Sorry, I fell off of IRC... I am on x86_64, but recently installed (or had installed on my behalf) armhf cross development tools.
[22:19] <Bleezy209> Do i have to reinstall os to get graphics to work?
[22:23] <OerHeks> Bleezy209, sure, reinstall zorin
[22:24] <OerHeks> anyway that nvidia 6200 is not going to perform well in games, too old.
[22:24] <wpd> I'll ask again later... I have to go now.
[22:26] <Bleezy209> OreHeks in downloading ububtu
[22:28] <kolossen> k1l_, so maybe bluetooth is wokring but just not turned on, how do I turn it on?
[22:29] <Bleezy209> OreHeks on open arena
[22:39] <owen1> I 'Override software rendering list' and 'Enable WebGL' in chrome://flags but http://get.webgl.org say I don't have WebGL support. I also tried running chrome with --disable-gpu-watchdog but it doesn't help. Firefox runs WebGL just fine. I have the same issue with chromium-browser package (39.0.2171.65 Ubuntu 14.10) and also with chrome (39.0.2171.71). Any ideas?
[22:41] <malinus> Hello. when I launch the ubuntu installer. The installer itself never starts up. I can see some of the icons (volume, power etc.) and the background, but nothing else. It's 14.10. Any ideas?
[22:41] <daftykins> malinus: how far does 'Try' get?
[22:41] <malinus> daftykins: "Try"?
[22:41] <malinus> oh try
[22:41] <malinus> let me check
[22:42] <daftykins> malinus: any quirks we should know about the specification of this system? or the spec at all for that matter :>
[22:42] <malinus> daftykins: "try" seems to work just fine.
[22:43] <daftykins> excellent, give the installer a shot from there
[22:43] <malinus> daftykins: thanks. (stupid of not even thinking about that, doh)
[22:44] <daftykins> well you'd be forgiven for thinking 'install' should work just the same, if not easier from lower overhead
[22:44] <daftykins> so that's a quirky one indeed
[22:45] <malinus> daftykins: I'm installing using the integrated graphics, since the free nvidia drivers that come with the live/installer ubuntu don't support my chipset (maxwell - gtx 750ti, black screen). No idea if it has something to do with that?
[22:46] <Airbander> Hi guys how install driver or printer
[22:46] <daftykins> malinus: yeah likely nouveau would choke on that card. not from the intel though, nah. you could probably have just booted with nomodeset, no?
[22:46] <daftykins> !nomodeset
[22:47] <Airbander> brb
[22:48] <malinus> daftykins: nope. that should work, however it doesn't.
[22:48] <l0rdn1x> You guys wanna know something really funny,  I have no sound problems with my computer absolutely none, every sound application on Ubuntu 14.04 works without any problems,  well then theres this proprietary junk called Skype, and the sound does not work with it at all...lol
[22:49] <daftykins> l0rdn1x: 10.04 .deb?
[22:49] <daftykins> malinus: ah well, reverting to onboard was a good move :)
[22:49] <daftykins> (on-die technically)
[22:50] <malinus> daftykins: would you suggest that I use the drivers provided by the repository of 14.10, or get them driectly from nvidia?
[22:51] <l0rdn1x> daftykins, its the one from the repo im assuming universal since I didn't add a ppa for it.  Skype version 4.3.0.37
[22:51] <daftykins> malinus: i don't think your card is supported by any repo ones, so it would either be a manual download or xorg-edgers PPA
[22:51] <daftykins> l0rdn1x: default ubuntu repos? not aware of there being one
[22:52] <malinus> okay, thanks
[22:52] <malinus> daftykins: if I knew this card would be such a pain with linux, I would never have bought it :(. hehe
[22:52] <l0rdn1x> daftykins, yeah I had to check-mark the universal repo in the package manager.
[22:52] <daftykins> malinus: i wouldn't worry, with time it'll change
[22:53] <daftykins> l0rdn1x: ah, well likely that thing is ancient and shouldn't be bothered with
[22:53] <l0rdn1x> daftykins, where can I get this working .deb ?
[22:53] <daftykins> oh i have no idea about whether it's working :)
[22:53] <l0rdn1x> ah ok
[22:53] <malinus> yeah, it's just that the chipset does so weired on-hardware authorization of drivers or some similar woodo.
[22:53] <daftykins> just skype.com
[22:53] <ikonia> malinus: that seems unlikley
[22:53] <l0rdn1x> I don't really use skype, but I have one friend that only uses skype I'm sure you know how that goes lol
[22:54] <daftykins> !amd | ikonia
[22:54] <daftykins> *sigh*
[22:54] <ikonia> ?
[22:54] <daftykins> you didn't create it yet
[22:55] <malinus> ikonia: I read it on the nouveau mailing list I think. That's why it still isn't supported, while much newer cards already are.
[22:55] <ikonia> daftykins: I've not had chance
[22:55] <daftykins> malinus: did it happen to have any talk of 9xx cards too? i've not seen anyone on here try to run one yet but it's an even newer maxwell of course
[22:57] <malinus> nope sorry, I just stumbled on it while investigating. didn't even read it in details, not that it would have help me ;P.
[22:57] <daftykins> no problem. running the install right now?
[22:57] <malinus> yeah
[22:58] <owen1> my HDMI monitor show 'cable not connected' even after i see it in xrandr and type 'xrandr --auto'. any idea?
[22:58] <daftykins> booting with it connected, or plugging it in after?
[23:03] <daftykins> owen1: ?
[23:03] <kolossen> how can i just see if bluetooth is enabled or not?
[23:03] <Langri-Sha> hey everyone! has anyone tried the systemd-services package on pre-Utopic releases?
[23:04] <luminous> hi! if I am using ubuntu 12.04 with the linux-image-generic-lts-trusty kernel, do I need to install the linux-generic-lts-raring kernel to use docker, as noted in http://docs.docker.com/installation/ubuntulinux/#ubuntu-precise-1204-lts-64-bit ?
[23:06] <daftykins> i can't think why given the raring kernel is EOL
[23:09] <owen1> daftykins: i tried both ways
[23:10] <daftykins> owen1: and what did the Xorg log look like each time?
[23:13] <kolossen> how can USB hubs have a price difference of 100 $ ?
[23:15] <daftykins> they're all horrible, horrible devices that should be left behind in the early 2000s
[23:15] <daftykins> it's a tax on you for buying one :P
[23:16] <nedal> Hi, I want to join #c channel but they say I need to be identified with the services, how can I do this ?
[23:16] <kolossen> hcitool does not give me any devices but my android is on
[23:17] <Airbander> HI guys i have canon LBP-6020 Printer and i cant find a driver for it any way to help me and thanks
[23:18] <xubuntu_> hello everyone like say thanks for earlier
[23:18] <daftykins> nedal: join #freenode and ask how to register
[23:18] <Airbander> how install my printer on ubuntu plz
[23:19] <kolossen> will USB hubs work with ubuntu even if theyb just officially support windows?
[23:19] <owen1> daftykins: i didn't know Xorg should look different. i'll save it next time it works!
[23:20] <daftykins> owen1: what, so it works sometimes and not others?
[23:20] <nedal> daftykins_ ok thanks
[23:20] <owen1> daftykins: yup. it worked twice in the last week
[23:20] <daftykins> owen1: graphics hardware? driver?
[23:21] <Airbander> how join xubuntu ?
[23:22] <owen1> daftykins: lspci -> VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0b)  how to find what driver i use?
[23:23] <daftykins> owen1: pretty likely intel ;)
[23:23] <user1> hi everyone on xubuntu install do u tick download updates while install and 3rd party software
[23:23] <owen1> daftykins: btw, there is no xorg file on ubuntu anymore
[23:23] <OerHeks> Airbander, what does openprinting.org say about  canon LBP-6020 ? it isn't even listed
[23:23] <owen1> (i am on 14.10)
[23:23] <daftykins> user1: depends if you want to update during the installation, or install third party software.
[23:23] <k1l_> user1: yes
[23:23] <cynicallemon> user1: if you want to
[23:23] <daftykins> owen1: you're thinking of the wrong one. /var/log/Xorg.0.log is a log created when X runs.
[23:24] <user1> ok cool just thought may slow it down
[23:24] <Meneer_Puffy> user1: yes! It saves time actually
[23:24] <Airbander> oerheks there is no way to add it :`
[23:24] <daftykins> owen1: xorg.conf != log ;)
[23:24] <Meneer_Puffy> the initial install will be a bit slower
[23:24] <Meneer_Puffy> but you wont have to manually install any updates later
[23:24] <daftykins> though bear in mind updates during install breaks things for some :P
[23:25] <Meneer_Puffy> you can just walk away during the install, have a cup of tea and return to a freshly installed system
[23:25] <Meneer_Puffy> daftykins: I've had systems with automatic upgrades break. But never had any problems with downloading updates during instalation
[23:25] <owen1> daftykins: interesting! so how can i compare 2 states of this log? it's not a static file
[23:26] <daftykins> owen1: copy it to ~ when it doesn't work and when it does.
[23:26] <OerHeks> Airbander, i see that yours is not included, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CanonCaptDrv190
[23:26] <owen1> daftykins: ok. i'll do that and report back. thanks!
[23:26] <daftykins> np
[23:26] <user1> ok thank u
[23:26] <Airbander> thanks dude for help
[23:27] <abstrakt> howdy folks
[23:27] <user1> i had install open now its disapeared where to
[23:27] <abstrakt> user1, install for what?
[23:27] <daftykins> user1: alt+tab
[23:27] <Cervol> any knows what theme is that screenshoot?
[23:27] <Cervol> http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/news2/Canonical-Starts-Talking-About-Convergence-and-Ubuntu-14-10-Features-437648-3.jpg
[23:27] <daftykins> abstrakt: got a question?
[23:28] <Airbander> guys any one can help me to install my printer plz ? canon LPB-6020
[23:28] <abstrakt> daftykins, I do, yes
[23:28] <Airbander> AND THANKS
[23:28] <abstrakt> what's the maximum/largest (within reason, how do define "reason" I don't exactly know) likely size that a root partition would take up
[23:28] <Airbander> NEEEEED HELP TO INSTALL THIS LBP-6020
[23:28] <luminous> daftykins: thanks, sounds like docker ought to update the docs
[23:28] <daftykins> Airbander: keep repeating and using caps and you'll be ignored.
[23:28] <ikonia> Airbander: you'll do better if you just ask for help without the silly NEEEEEEED HELP and typing in caps
[23:29] <Kazaii> Anyone here using Thinkpad Yoga? Or perhaps Yoga 3 Pro?
[23:29] <abstrakt> like if I installed all the software from the officially sanctioned repos from ubuntu (not necessarily from 3rd party PPAs)
[23:29] <ikonia> Airbander: just explain your problem clearly and calmly
[23:29] <ikonia> Airbander: if someone can help, they will
[23:29] <Airbander> lol
[23:29] <daftykins> abstrakt: but that's unlikely.
[23:29] <abstrakt> i.e. where will I strike a good balance between leaving a lot of headroom on /
[23:29] <abstrakt> and not wasting space
[23:29] <Langri-Sha> Cervol: looks like it's just a concept, not an actual theme http://thetechnotoast.deviantart.com/art/Ubuntu-Flat-UI-Concept-445281381
[23:29] <abstrakt> in terms of partition sizing
[23:29] <Airbander> they saw that when i asked they didnt nice
[23:29] <daftykins> Kazaii: doubt it. thinking of buying one?
[23:29] <Kazaii> Indeed. I had a quick hands on with the Thinkpad Yoga. It felt great.
[23:30] <ikonia> Airbander: no-one has not been nice to you
[23:30] <ikonia> Airbander: if they can help, they will
[23:30] <Airbander> ikonia :D
[23:30] <Airbander> i didnt say that
[23:30] <abstrakt> like is 50G too much for a root partition?
[23:30] <daftykins> Kazaii: the Yoga 3 Pro seems to have some design issues which cause it to thermally throttle the new intel broadwell chip, wouldn't recommend buying one until they fix it
[23:30] <abstrakt> is 10G too little?
[23:30] <Bashing-om> abstrakt: An abstract question, mine: /dev/sda1       4.7G  1.8G  2.8G  39% / ; Works well for MY use case .
[23:30] <daftykins> abstrakt: 20-40GB might be a happy medium for a desktop
[23:31] <Kazaii> daftykins: Thanks! Good to know. :)
[23:31] <abstrakt> Bashing-om, er, which partitions are which sizes on that?
[23:31] <xangua> abstrakt: 50 is ok, I have 20
[23:31] <abstrakt> all I see is 3 different gig sizes
[23:31] <Bashing-om> abstrakt: That is my '/' partition .
[23:31] <daftykins> abstrakt: size, used, free (or size, free, used) :P
[23:31] <abstrakt> ah, ok
[23:32] <abstrakt> Bashing-om, that seems a bit small, is that a server?
[23:32] <Airbander> ok guys have a good day
[23:32] <abstrakt> virtualbox seems to recommend approx a 12G entire disk size when installing a linux based virtual machine
[23:32] <abstrakt> it was either 12 or 15 I think
[23:32] <ikonia> abstrakt: it's not a blank and white question
[23:32] <ikonia> abstrakt: it really depends on your needs and how you like to work,
[23:32] <ikonia> it's personal to each person/their setup
[23:32] <ikonia> apply thought behind it, and you'll be fine
[23:33] <Bashing-om> abstrakt: It is an extension of what was a server ..Like I advise, works well for my use case .. How you use your system will be the dtermining factor of how larrgw to make '/' .
[23:33] <daftykins> but of course it's a moot query because you can always backup and change things ;)
[23:33] <luminous> what 'version' is 'trusty' ?
[23:33] <daftykins> luminous: 14.04
[23:33] <abstrakt> daftykins, can, but that takes considerable time, so I'd like to get it right this time around
[23:33] <luminous> daftykins: so if I have trusty lts kernel on 12.04, I have the kernel from 14.04 on 12.04?
[23:33] <abstrakt> I'm mostly desktop oriented
[23:34] <abstrakt> workstation, that is
[23:34] <daftykins> luminous: yes you are running the trusty HWE (hardware enablement stack)
[23:34] <daftykins> !hwe
[23:34] <daftykins> abstrakt: then plan well.
[23:34] <abstrakt> I would prefer to have headroom for lots of software install if need be, is there any way to get a calculated size for how much space a given set of packages will take up?
[23:34] <luminous> it's like a half-migration to 14.04, interesting
[23:34] <luminous> forced
[23:34] <daftykins> no it's not forced at all
[23:35] <daftykins> you can also be on 3.2.x with precise (12.04)
[23:35] <bittyx-desktop> So, I've been using Linux Mint for a couple of years now, with the main reason being Cinnamon. However, it has never occurred to me that I could use Cinnamon with Ubuntu, so after a bit of Googling, it seems that this is pretty easy to accomplish. In fact, it can be installed with a one-liner. Has anyone done this, and does everything work correctly?
[23:35] <abstrakt> I know pretty much what I'll have on there, I think the biggest space hogs are really the DEs like GNOME/KDE/Unity etc
[23:35] <ikonia> a.) LTS HWE is not forced b.) it's not a migration at all
[23:35] <bittyx-desktop> I'm having some random issues with Mint and I can't bother to research them anymore, so I'd like to switch to Ubuntu.
[23:35] <wpd_> Hi, sorry for the repeat, but I had to step away for a while...
[23:35] <wpd_> I'm having some trouble with my apt-get sources... starting with "Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/main armhf Packages", but "grep -r armhf /etc/apt returns nothing.
[23:35] <abstrakt> can't think of any other specific package that is likely to take up tons of space
[23:35] <bittyx-desktop> My main worry is - will Cinnamon work okay with Ubuntu.
[23:35] <abstrakt> aside from the postgres db but that'll go in /var anyway
[23:35] <ikonia> bittyx-desktop: depends where you get it from
[23:36] <luminous> either way, trusty is making docker install instructions not make any sense
[23:36] <bubbasaures> bittyx-desktop, Cinnamon is in the 14.10 repos try the whole OS and decide for yourself.
[23:36] <bittyx-desktop> ikonia: So there's nothing like an official Cinnamon build for Ubuntu?
[23:36] <ikonia> luminous: no it's not
[23:36] <ikonia> luminous: trusty has no impact on dockers instructions
[23:36] <luminous> ikonia: how are you supposed to install dockeer? http://docs.docker.com/installation/ubuntulinux/#ubuntu-precise-1204-lts-64-bit
[23:36] <bittyx-desktop> bubbasaures: If I switch, it's gonna be to 14.04 because LTS.
[23:36] <luminous> ikonia: I'm trying to say that these instruction ^^ make less sense when you see trusty in 12.04
[23:37] <daftykins> luminous: i don't see how you got so stuck.
[23:37] <ikonia> luminous: those documents are actually FOR the HWE you are using
[23:37] <bittyx-desktop> bubbasaures: Can I still use Cinnamon with 14.04?
[23:37] <abstrakt> so, does anyone know how to see what the total size of e.g. the base install is?
[23:37] <luminous> call me stupid, but I'm not connecting the dots here
[23:37] <Bashing-om> bittyx-desktop: Cinnamon desktop is available in 14.10's repository, If it did not work well with the majority of configuations; it would neot be there.
[23:37] <abstrakt> and or ideally find a calculated size by listing what packages you want?
[23:37] <ikonia> abstrakt: 2GB
[23:37] <luminous> sorry, please enlighten me
[23:37] <daftykins> abstrakt: are you talking about a default one, or that silly idea of installing every package? :P
[23:37] <ikonia> abstrakt: but that is not usable as a disk size
[23:37] <malinus> daftykins:(I guess you might want to hear some feedback from the "maxwell installation"). After installing the non-free nvidia drivers from their website, everything just works. Before installing the drivers I was actually able to boot by giving grub the "text" and "nomodeset" settings, no idea why it didn't work with the install.
[23:37] <abstrakt> daftykins, not the idea of every package
[23:38] <bubbasaures> bittyx-desktop, Yes from a ppa, however we don't technically support ppa's here they are 3rd party
[23:38] <daftykins> malinus: excellent! glad it worked out :)
[23:38] <bittyx-desktop> Bashing-om: Sorry, I don't really know much about the release processes of various distros and DEs, though what you say sounds reasonable.
[23:38] <abstrakt> daftykins, the idea of listing out the packages I will probably use and finding out what the total disk size of them would be
[23:38] <ikonia> luminous: it actually says what to do if you are using the HWE and says "refer to note 5 under each version"
[23:38] <daftykins> abstrakt: wow, just pick a size and install the damn thing :P
[23:38] <luminous> ikonia: ok, that would make more sense to me if I understood what HWE meant, and you do, so that makes sense
[23:38] <bittyx-desktop> bubbasaures: So if I want Ubuntu+Cinnamon, I either have to go for a non-LTS release, or a non-supported combination?
[23:39] <abstrakt> daftykins, why, is that an unreasonable option?
[23:39] <abstrakt> seems reasonable to me
[23:39] <luminous> abstrakt: use lvm so the question doesn't matter
[23:39] <abstrakt> if it doesn't exist then that's fine
[23:39] <daftykins> abstrakt: sounds like an utter waste of time to me yep :)
[23:39] <Bashing-om> bittyx-desktop: Keep in mind, 3rd party software is NOT supported here; but there is a PPA to install Cinnamon on 14.04 .
[23:39] <bubbasaures> bittyx-desktop, Until another longterm and cinnamon is in it's repos yes.
[23:39] <abstrakt> daftykins, that's not really a "reason why" but, that's fine
[23:39] <bittyx-desktop> Bashing-om: Understood, bubbasaures already mentioned that.
[23:39] <abstrakt> sounds like this doesn't really exist
[23:40] <bittyx-desktop> bubbasaures, Bashing-om: Thank you both.
[23:40] <abstrakt> there's gotta be a package db I could query though, right?
[23:40] <luminous> ikonia: so yea, that still doesn't tell me what to do
[23:40] <daftykins> abstrakt: seriously, a base install is <3GB, so why not just do 15GB+ and get on with life?
[23:40] <daftykins> abstrakt: are you somehow limited with disk space? help us out with understanding here :)
[23:40] <bubbasaures> bittyx-desktop, Mate is in 14.04 however, just info.
[23:41] <luminous> ikonia: as a user who wants to install docker on ubuntu 12.04, seeing trusty in apt-get upgrade prior to starting this, I am confused seeing the docs only focus on raring
[23:41] <daftykins> in fact there's a whole MATE ediion of ubuntu now!
[23:41] <luminous> or packages with raring in it
[23:41] <abstrakt> daftykins, aight, well I guess that assuages some of my curiosity knowing a base install is less than 3G
[23:41] <ikonia> luminous: luminous it's not confusing, you are on raring
[23:41] <ikonia> luminous: there is no confusion on that at all
[23:41] <luminous> I'm confused about how to install docker correctly so it works
[23:42] <luminous> why is that not clear?
[23:42] <abstrakt> I don't suppose there's a full 15G worth of other software that I would install, so I suppose 20G should be a reasonable size
[23:42] <ikonia> luminous: it is clear
[23:42] <daftykins> abstrakt: yep, unless you're into development of some kind.
[23:42] <abstrakt> well, I am
[23:42] <abstrakt> but again, databases would go on /var anyway
[23:42] <luminous> abstrakt: make /home or other partitions huge
[23:42] <k1l> luminous: lsb_release -d #gives you what?
[23:42] <ikonia> development is not databases
[23:43] <abstrakt> luminous, yeah I intend to make /home as large as possible
[23:43] <bittyx-desktop> bubbasaures: I've never tried it, but looking at the screenshots, it does look awfully similar to how I setup Cinnamon, ie. an application taskbar (with a workspace switcher widget) on the bottom, and a launcher+bunch of widgets on top. Any ideas on how customizable it is?
[23:43] <luminous> k1l: 12.04.5 LTS
[23:43] <daftykins> luminous: "uname -r"
[23:43] <abstrakt> hence I was wondering how to calculate a reasonable minimum size for a root partition
[23:43] <ikonia> it's 12.04 with the LTW HWE
[23:43] <ikonia> I thought thi shad been established
[23:43] <luminous> daftykins: 3.13.0-39-generic
[23:43] <bittyx-desktop> Sorry if my questions seem trivial, I've never really researched this stuff too much.
[23:43] <daftykins> so did i, yet you guys are spinning it out for a ways
[23:43] <k1l> luminous: you can install backported kernels with the hardware enablement stack
[23:43] <daftykins> luminous: follow the trusty instructions, job done?
[23:44] <k1l> luminous: so where is the actual issue?
[23:44] <Bashing-om> abstrakt: As you know I do separate partitions, my '/var/ : /dev/sda8       4.7G  874M  3.6G  20% /var ; again, works well for my use case.
[23:44] <luminous> k1l: i'm trying to focus on docker, not kernels
[23:44] <bubbasaures> bittyx-desktop, Not really, never used it longterm, must be fairly tweak-able,
[23:44] <ikonia> he's installed 12.04.5 - which comes with HWE kernel by default
[23:44] <ikonia> it even says it in the documentation that he's been linked to
[23:44] <k1l> luminous: so where is the issue?
[23:44] <wpd_> Any idea why my x86_64 machine is trying to find armhf packages when I run "apt-get update"?
[23:44] <ikonia> hence why I'm not sure why there is confusion, this is all clearly detailed in the documentation that the install is referencing
[23:44] <wpd_> Where should I look?  I don't see anything in /etc/apt.
[23:45] <bittyx-desktop> bubbasaures: Cool, thanks, I'll look into it. It might just do the trick!
[23:45] <daftykins> wpd_: nope, what've you done to it? :P /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[23:45] <daftykins> wpd_: pastebin an apt-get update
[23:45] <ikonia> wpd_: please run "sudo apt-get update" and pastebin the output please.
[23:46] <Bashing-om> wpd_: @ places to look; -> cat -n /etc/apt/sources.list , tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* <- .
[23:46] <luminous> k1l: knowing what exactly to do to install docker on this host. daftykins is saying I am to follow the docker instructions for trusty.. http://docs.docker.com/installation/ubuntulinux/#ubuntu-trusty-1404-lts-64-bit
[23:46] <OerHeks> wpd_, you said while ago you had installed some arm development stuff ?
[23:46] <ikonia> luminous: the docker instructions tell you what to do, and link you to the HWE docs that explain how your HWE system is configured/it's requirements
[23:46] <kolossen> Can USB hubs for windows be sued without problems for ubuntu?
[23:46] <wpd_> Actually, it was installed on my behalf by some sort of automated installation script.  I wasn't happy.
[23:47] <ikonia> kolossen: it really depends on if they have a propritary chipset in
[23:47] <ikonia> kolossen: normally you can use them without issue
[23:48] <daftykins> wpd_: please follow the instructions 3 of us have given.
[23:48] <jadedspades> Whenever I run OpenSpades, it produces the error: "Failed to dlload 'libopenal.so':/usr/local/games//libopenal.so: cannot read file daya: is a directory"- anyone understand it? (I have libopenal1 installed, too.)
[23:49] <wpd_> Hi all, thanks for the tips.  pastebin is at http://pastebin.com/1vHg6i8N
[23:49] <luminous> ikonia thanks
[23:49] <ikonia> jadedspades: you've installed a game from an external resource that expects the library libopenal.so to exist in /usr/local/games - it does not exist so is having an error
[23:50] <jadedspades> Should I ln the location of libopenal.so to where it expects it to be?
[23:50] <ikonia> oops
[23:50] <daftykins> wpd_: install "pastebinit" then run "pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list" and "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ | pastebinit"
[23:50] <ikonia> wpd_: 16.Hit http://packages.ros.org trusty/main armhf Packages
[23:50] <k1l> luminous: follow the regular 12.04 howto but skip the kernel upgrade things since you already have that done
[23:50] <ikonia> wpd_: there you go
[23:50] <owen1> daftykins: cable not connected: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9321945 works: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9321946. Here is what I remember doing: I switched to unity (normaly I am on i3), turned off the monitor (cable still connected), run 'xrandr --output HDMI2 --auto --above eDP1', turned on the monitor, and it works.
[23:50] <ikonia> wpd_: also a ppa too 24.Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty/main armhf Packages
[23:51] <wpd_> ikonia: Where is that ppa specified?  I can't find it in /etc/apt/*
[23:51] <ikonia> /etc/apt/* is not a directory
[23:51] <ikonia> it will either be in your sources.list or the /etc/apt/sources.list.d directory
[23:51] <hades777> night...
[23:52] <wpd_> ikonia: I agree, but "grep -r armhf /etc/apt" doesn't show it.
[23:52] <ikonia> wpd_: don't grep
[23:52] <ikonia> wpd_: look in the files
[23:53] <teaearlgraycold> Is there a command I can use to reboot into a specific grub entry?
[23:54] <ikonia> teaearlgraycold: change the "default" value
[23:55] <teaearlgraycold> ikonia, I guess that could work. Was hoping for an in-persistent solution though
[23:55] <wpd_> ikonia: ok, I'm looking in the files and seeing various references to ppa.launchpad.net.  Which one is pulling in the armhf stuff?  How could I tell?
[23:58] <wpd_> daftykins: see http://paste.ubuntu.com/9322063/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/9322064/
[23:59] <daftykins> wpd_: the ros... stuff. you're going to want to look up the proper commands for removing a PPA though