xubuntu60w   02:40
xubuntu60wПртвет Hallo02:40
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xubuntu60wDo you speak Russian?02:44
knomei don't, and as the bot tells you, this channel is english only02:44
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Rochvellonhi, i have a grafical issue with java and xubuntu 14.04 and 14.10. if i start a java programm there will be an issue in the upper left corner of the desktop: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/58265714/java.png any ideas?05:31
bullgard4Rochvellon: Ich habe Xubuntu 14.04 noch nicht installiert. Ich warte, bis systemd dort angekommen ist und sich stabilisiert hat.05:49
Rochvellonsystemd sollte erstmal von grund auf neu geschrieben werden. mit pflichtenheft und allem, was sonst noch dazu gehört05:51
Unit193bullgard4: systemd won't land in 14.04, that's an LTS too.  It's installable in 14.10, and *may* become default in 15.04.05:54
bullgard4Unit193: So there is no hurry for me.06:06
bullgard4Rochvellon: I rarely saw a Linux development starting with a   functional  specifications document at the outset. Notabe exception have been Linux program developments at universities.06:09
Rochvellonbullgard4: man sollte aber darauf achten, dass nicht einmal so und ein anderes mal so gecodet wird.06:11
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bullgard4Rochvellon: Unbedingt!06:11
Rochvelloneben, und deswegen sollte das von grund auf neu geschrieben werden06:12
bullgard4cfhowlett: Calm down. Today is Advent 1st.06:12
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xubuntu17whi, I need guidance regarding releasing a  Xubuntu virtual machine with a list of tools preinstalled and configured, under a different name...09:44
brainwashRochvellon: that's https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1097809:52
ubottubugzilla.xfce.org bug 10978 in General "Square appears on top-left corner on screen when using composite and java-app with tray icon" [Major,New]09:52
Poisoned_DragonThat's been an issue for a long time.09:53
xubuntu44wenglish o german ?09:53
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xubuntu22whi, I need guidance regarding releasing a  Xubuntu virtual machine with a list of tools preinstalled and configured, under a different name...10:09
ubottuInterested in remastering the Ubuntu !LiveCD or !Alternate installer? See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization - Or use tools such as http://uck.sourceforge.net/10:16
brainwashxubuntu22w: maybe these links will help you ^10:16
ted123When I connect my apple usb mouse it works fine, but inserting a usb memory stick doesnt. Anyone have similar experience?11:06
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Rochvellonbrainwash: thank you12:47
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KM0201got something that is driving me crazy... can anyone explain 1. how the hell this got in my menu (i didn't do it), and 2... how do I remove it?  it doesn't show up in any of the menu editors..   http://imagebin.org/32493514:45
KM0201if that link doesn't work..   http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j263/IndyGunFreak/Screenshot-11302014-094253AM_zps2934032c.png14:48
KM0201i'm open to suggestions14:48
xubuntu63wDoes anyone know how to change the character encoding for the terminal in Xubuntu 12.04?17:09
xubuntu63wIn 14.04 it is easy, there it is this tab set character encoding. But I dont know how to do it in 12.04.17:11
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hhelpis there anybody here?17:42
cfhowletthhelp, ask your support question17:42
hhelpok, my xubuntu 14.10 64 bits cannot detect any wireless network nor detect any LAN connection. I am now using another computer. I copied the results for lspci and sudo lshw -C network here http://paste.ubuntu.com/9317621/17:44
hhelpaudio doesnt work either, i cannot save edited documents or files, graphics are not as defined as before, resolution is now worse17:44
cfhowletthhelp, wifi doesn't work, and cant save and resolution is bad?  fresh installation or what?17:45
hhelpcfhowlett: dont wanna nuke it17:46
cfhowletthhelp, not what I asked ... IS THIS A FRESH INSTALL?17:46
hhelpcfhowlett: a sorry, no its an upgrade from 14.0417:46
cfhowletthhelp, with that many unrelated components failing, I'd venture to say the upgrade was faulty. also:  14.10?  why?  9 months of support and 14.04 is LTS.17:47
hhelpcfhowlett: we can discuss abotu that once i´ve solved this issue :)17:48
cfhowletthhelp, right.  well, if the upgrade was faulty, reinstall.  torrent the .iso, verify the iso, make a USB, verify the USB, boot the USB and install.  do not format your /home (which you backed up anyway).17:49
hhelpcfhowlett: computer doesnt recognize any usb hard drives or sticks either17:50
cfhowlett!install | hhelp,17:50
ubottuhhelp,: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate17:50
cfhowletthhelp, if you have a linux installed, you can still do it with just the .iso17:51
cfhowletthhelp, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux17:51
cfhowlettnever done it myself you understand ...17:51
cfhowlettalso ... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux#Without_CD17:54
hhelpcfhowlett: if I use the "install from linux", will my machine recognize the USB stick?17:54
hhelpotherwise its useless17:54
cfhowletthhelp, I've never done it, but the link I just posted requires no USB ...17:55
hhelpcfhowlett: those instructions need a working internet connection, which I dont have17:56
cfhowletthhelp, get the iso, make a USB17:57
cfhowlettcfhowlett, no internet so ... visit your college?  library?17:58
hhelpcfhowlett: thats where I am now17:58
cfhowletthhelp, cupcakes!  get the iso!17:59
hhelpcfhowlett: college computer cannot open the torrent file and I need privileges to install new software18:03
hhelpok, it will take 2 hours18:05
cfhowletthhelp, and this is why you NEVER leave the house without a working Ubuntu USB.  At my college, I boot the up a stick, don't bother signing in crap, get the internet and all my apps -- in ENGLISH, since I don't speak Chinese.18:05
hhelpcfhowlett: for thaat I have to hard reboot the machine (in plain english, unplug it) and restart it.18:06
cfhowletthhelp, true ...18:06
hhelpid still use my own laptop, college computers are old models18:07
cfhowletthhelp, same here  .... lenovo all-in-one model18:07
hhelpeven still, im not sure if the boot order would allow me to choose the usb stick as the first option, dont habve BIOS privileges18:07
hhelpcfhowlett: wow, the ISO copy 64 bits is in the usb stick18:08
hhelpno, wait, 8 minutes18:08
hhelpbut flowing18:08
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ted123i have a mount disk icon on my desktop for /dev/sda2 which is named TAILS xxxx. This is a usb image I had on my disk on a prior installation. When I double click it, it says it cannot mount the volume. And the volume is not listed in /etc/fstab either. Any idea why it keeps showing up on my desktop? Are there other places than /etc/fstab i should look?18:10
ted123hm sda2 is an extended partition which two other partitions which sit inside as logical18:13
hhelpcfhowlett: please paste the exat instructions I have to follow if I go with the iso in the usb stick. I assume I now have to turn off the laptop, change the booting order to put usb stick in the first place and... then?18:13
hhelpcan I force xubuntu to recognize a plugged in usb stick?18:14
cfhowletthhelp, hold on there Hoss.  FIRST, you'll need to copy that .iso to your computer.  then fire up ubuntu startup-disk-creator.  make a boot usb, reboot.  set bios to prioritize USB boot.  "try ubuntu" and install18:15
cfhowletthhelp, no force should be required18:15
hhelpcfhowlett: how do I copy that iso to my laptop if it doesnt recognize ay usb-connected device?18:16
cfhowletthhelp, ah, I must have missed that little tidbit.18:17
cfhowletthhelp, use a friends computer and make the USB. hopefully, you'll have USB boot support through bios18:18
hhelpcfhowlett: fck18:18
cfhowletthhelp, call a buddy, use his box and buy him a beer.  easy18:19
hhelpcfhowlett: a bit depressing, ill have to wait till morning18:19
hhelppossibly tuesday18:20
cfhowletthhelp, best of luck18:20
hhelpcfhowlett: thats nice, amid the circumstances18:21
hhelpcfhowlett: any idea on how to make a bootable usb stick from a college computer?18:22
hhelpin which I dont have admin privileges?18:22
cfhowletthhelp, I seem to recall there was a browser site that would do it but that was quite a while back.18:22
hhelpcfhowlett: so, to plan the next 2 days: I have to dowload unetbooting onto a friend´s computer, make a bootable usb stick18:23
cfhowletthhelp, yep18:23
hhelpcfhowlett: in my broken laptop, NOT to lose all my precious data, I have to make a partition in which to install the new, working, xubuntu18:24
hhelpcfhowlett: hopefully, that should work18:24
cfhowletthhelp, backup your backups with a backup18:24
hhelpcfhowlett: heh, ultra noob here has never backuped anything18:25
cfhowletthhelp, ... you will after you lose a semester or 2 worth of work.18:26
hhelpcfhowlett: was i was trying to ask is: how do I make a backup? and incidentally, I just entered into GRUB, it lists all kernels presently installed in the computer, together with the recovery mode options18:27
hhelpcfhowlett: would any of those make a difference?18:27
cfhowletthhelp, !  I didn't even think of it but possibly.  boot one of the old kernels18:28
hhelpmirror mirror on the wall...#18:29
hhelpwhy did he leave?18:33
hhelpi need help please!!!!18:36
hhelpusing an outdated kernelm lshw -C network doesnt show the net as unclaimed18:37
hhelpbut I still cannot connect to internet18:37
halpphow do I enter into GRUB? I did it just by chance18:51
holsteinhalpp: typically, pressing shift after the bios screen will show grub, or you can change the settings to allow grub to be seen each time..18:51
holstein!grub | halpp18:51
ubottuhalpp: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub218:51
halppholstein: have you benn following my misfortunes with my installation? I used an old kernel and now I can save documents and files, graphics are back to normal, usb units are readable once again, but no wireless18:55
holsteinhalpp: i have not.. but, nothing in grub will help with your wireless18:55
ubottuWireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs18:55
holsteinon older hardware, i like to try and make sure the hardare is not broken.. so i dont waste time trying to address a software issue, if there is not one18:56
halppbut wait a momnent, if lshw -C network doesnt say "network unclaimed" that means that xubuntu recognizes there is an network... holstein ?18:58
halpphalpp: as a matter of fact, the applet is cycling ,as in trying to find a workable network18:58
artagon my current installation of 14.04, I don't get a wireless applet so I can't enter a wifi password. But it still works with the existing wifi database19:01
artagthere is a temporary solution to this, but a recent software update undid it so I had to do it again19:02
artagI have also seen the behaviour where it cycles between searching, waiting for an address and disconnected, but I don't know what causes that19:03
halppok, do I stick to 14.10 or revert to 14.04?19:09
artagI don't know. I've stuck with 14.04 for now. It's quite broken enough :(19:26
holsteinhalpp: thats up to you to decide..19:28
holsteinhalpp: the 14.04 version is long term support.. the 14.10 version is newer..19:28
holsteinhalpp: i would look at the !wifi link i gave, and see what chipset you have. you can also go to #ubuntu and see if someone has your *exact* chipset, if you cant find someone with first hand experience here19:29
holstein14.04 is actually *not* broken19:29
halppno, its my internet  connection that is19:30
holsteinartag: i see 3 immediate things that can cause what you describe, and i would rule them out in order. 1. the hardare is broken, 2. the device doesnt support linux and doesnt have drivers for linux 3. miscongiguration of the operating system19:31
holsteinhalpp: sure.. i didnt imply that it was.. but, you should see that the device works well in a supported operating system, such as windows or whateverr the creators promised you it would work with, then, you can rule out if the hardware is broken or not19:32
holsteinhalpp: then, i would look at the chipset, and actually link it here, so that a volunteer can assist you with that..19:32
holsteinhalpp: you can open a terminal and run "lspci" and paste that in..19:32
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holsteinor just paste the line for the wifi device here19:33
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halppholstein: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9319188/19:46
halppno, wait19:46
halppthats the old one19:46
halppthe new one, http://paste.ubuntu.com/9319218/19:48
halppthere is NO unrecognized network19:48
artagholstein: the hardware definitely works : it was OK pre-upgrade and it's not the wifi as such that's the problem - I lose the whole applet, so I can't select / deselect wired ethernet or USB to phone either. I am using this workaround : http://askubuntu.com/questions/449658/networkmanager-tray-nm-applet-is-gone-after-upgrade-to-14-04-trusty - answer 8 worked best for me, but a recent update undid it again.19:51
John_John_i cant change my default browser20:30
John_John_any ideas >20:31
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cidaHey guys. Does anyone know how I can play my audio output into my audio input?23:13
cidaI  want it set up so that when I'm Skyping with some friends, they can hear the audio I hear. So if like I'm playing music or a video, they can hear it too23:14
rosaecaeruleaewhat does the -f in sudo apt-get update -f do?23:14
brainwashrosaecaeruleae: "Fix; attempt to correct a system with broken dependencies in place."23:16
rosaecaeruleaea good23:16
brainwashfrom the manual page of apt-get, see "man apt-get"23:16
cidaAs a rule of thumb, you can generally type in --help after a command and it should tell you all of the functions. It works for most of the apps I use23:17
rosaecaeruleaealso good23:18
rosaecaeruleaei learned something new23:18
rosaecaeruleaei have 9 ppas installed in my xubuntu. Do I have to update their names to the new xubuntu version every time I upgrade?23:23
rosaecaeruleaefor instance, from whatever 14.04 was called to utopic (14.10)23:23
brainwashif the ppa provides packages for the newer release, then yes23:25
xanguaPPA's will be disabled when you upgrade to a major release23:25
xanguathe recommended is to disable and roll back to the packages provided by official repositories before upgrade23:26
brainwashthat's the recommendation23:27
rosaecaeruleaenever folowed it,,, for the last 5 years23:30

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