[02:40] [02:40] Пртвет Hallo [02:43] !ru | xubuntu60w [02:43] xubuntu60w: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke. [02:44] Do you speak Russian? [02:44] i don't, and as the bot tells you, this channel is english only === zz_Scorilo is now known as XeBlackWater === XeBlackWater is now known as Guest80846 [05:31] hi, i have a grafical issue with java and xubuntu 14.04 and 14.10. if i start a java programm there will be an issue in the upper left corner of the desktop: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/58265714/java.png any ideas? [05:49] Rochvellon: Ich habe Xubuntu 14.04 noch nicht installiert. Ich warte, bis systemd dort angekommen ist und sich stabilisiert hat. [05:51] systemd sollte erstmal von grund auf neu geschrieben werden. mit pflichtenheft und allem, was sonst noch dazu gehört [05:54] bullgard4: systemd won't land in 14.04, that's an LTS too. It's installable in 14.10, and *may* become default in 15.04. [06:06] Unit193: So there is no hurry for me. [06:09] Rochvellon: I rarely saw a Linux development starting with a functional specifications document at the outset. Notabe exception have been Linux program developments at universities. [06:10] s/Notabe/Notable/ [06:11] bullgard4: man sollte aber darauf achten, dass nicht einmal so und ein anderes mal so gecodet wird. [06:11] !de [06:11] In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis! [06:11] Rochvellon: Unbedingt! [06:12] eben, und deswegen sollte das von grund auf neu geschrieben werden [06:12] cfhowlett: Calm down. Today is Advent 1st. === thrik is now known as rooc === Poisoned_Dragon_ is now known as Poisoned_Dragon === Guest80846 is now known as XeBlackWater === Poisoned_Dragon_ is now known as Poisoned_Dragon [09:44] hi, I need guidance regarding releasing a Xubuntu virtual machine with a list of tools preinstalled and configured, under a different name... [09:52] Rochvellon: that's https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10978 [09:52] bugzilla.xfce.org bug 10978 in General "Square appears on top-left corner on screen when using composite and java-app with tray icon" [Major,New] [09:53] Hallo [09:53] That's been an issue for a long time. [09:53] english o german ? [09:55] !de [09:55] In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis! [10:09] hi, I need guidance regarding releasing a Xubuntu virtual machine with a list of tools preinstalled and configured, under a different name... [10:16] !remaster [10:16] Interested in remastering the Ubuntu !LiveCD or !Alternate installer? See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization - Or use tools such as http://uck.sourceforge.net/ [10:16] xubuntu22w: maybe these links will help you ^ [11:06] When I connect my apple usb mouse it works fine, but inserting a usb memory stick doesnt. Anyone have similar experience? === XeBlackWater is now known as zz_XeBlackWater [12:47] brainwash: thank you === zz_XeBlackWater is now known as XeBlackWater [14:45] got something that is driving me crazy... can anyone explain 1. how the hell this got in my menu (i didn't do it), and 2... how do I remove it? it doesn't show up in any of the menu editors.. http://imagebin.org/324935 [14:48] if that link doesn't work.. http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j263/IndyGunFreak/Screenshot-11302014-094253AM_zps2934032c.png [14:48] i'm open to suggestions [17:09] Does anyone know how to change the character encoding for the terminal in Xubuntu 12.04? [17:11] In 14.04 it is easy, there it is this tab set character encoding. But I dont know how to do it in 12.04. [17:41] hi === Guest37162 is now known as hhelp [17:42] is there anybody here? [17:42] hhelp, ask your support question [17:44] ok, my xubuntu 14.10 64 bits cannot detect any wireless network nor detect any LAN connection. I am now using another computer. I copied the results for lspci and sudo lshw -C network here http://paste.ubuntu.com/9317621/ [17:44] audio doesnt work either, i cannot save edited documents or files, graphics are not as defined as before, resolution is now worse [17:45] hhelp, wifi doesn't work, and cant save and resolution is bad? fresh installation or what? [17:46] cfhowlett: dont wanna nuke it [17:46] hhelp, not what I asked ... IS THIS A FRESH INSTALL? [17:46] :) [17:46] cfhowlett: a sorry, no its an upgrade from 14.04 [17:47] hhelp, with that many unrelated components failing, I'd venture to say the upgrade was faulty. also: 14.10? why? 9 months of support and 14.04 is LTS. [17:48] cfhowlett: we can discuss abotu that once i´ve solved this issue :) [17:49] hhelp, right. well, if the upgrade was faulty, reinstall. torrent the .iso, verify the iso, make a USB, verify the USB, boot the USB and install. do not format your /home (which you backed up anyway). [17:50] cfhowlett: computer doesnt recognize any usb hard drives or sticks either [17:50] !install | hhelp, [17:50] hhelp,: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate [17:51] hhelp, if you have a linux installed, you can still do it with just the .iso [17:51] hhelp, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux [17:51] never done it myself you understand ... [17:54] also ... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux#Without_CD [17:54] cfhowlett: if I use the "install from linux", will my machine recognize the USB stick? [17:54] otherwise its useless [17:55] hhelp, I've never done it, but the link I just posted requires no USB ... [17:56] cfhowlett: those instructions need a working internet connection, which I dont have [17:57] hhelp, get the iso, make a USB [17:58] cfhowlett, no internet so ... visit your college? library? [17:58] cfhowlett: thats where I am now [17:59] hhelp, cupcakes! get the iso! [18:03] cfhowlett: college computer cannot open the torrent file and I need privileges to install new software [18:05] ok, it will take 2 hours [18:05] hhelp, and this is why you NEVER leave the house without a working Ubuntu USB. At my college, I boot the up a stick, don't bother signing in crap, get the internet and all my apps -- in ENGLISH, since I don't speak Chinese. [18:06] cfhowlett: for thaat I have to hard reboot the machine (in plain english, unplug it) and restart it. [18:06] hhelp, true ... [18:07] id still use my own laptop, college computers are old models [18:07] hhelp, same here .... lenovo all-in-one model [18:07] even still, im not sure if the boot order would allow me to choose the usb stick as the first option, dont habve BIOS privileges [18:08] cfhowlett: wow, the ISO copy 64 bits is in the usb stick [18:08] no, wait, 8 minutes [18:08] but flowing === brainwash_ is now known as brainwash [18:10] i have a mount disk icon on my desktop for /dev/sda2 which is named TAILS xxxx. This is a usb image I had on my disk on a prior installation. When I double click it, it says it cannot mount the volume. And the volume is not listed in /etc/fstab either. Any idea why it keeps showing up on my desktop? Are there other places than /etc/fstab i should look? [18:13] hm sda2 is an extended partition which two other partitions which sit inside as logical [18:13] cfhowlett: please paste the exat instructions I have to follow if I go with the iso in the usb stick. I assume I now have to turn off the laptop, change the booting order to put usb stick in the first place and... then? [18:14] can I force xubuntu to recognize a plugged in usb stick? [18:15] hhelp, hold on there Hoss. FIRST, you'll need to copy that .iso to your computer. then fire up ubuntu startup-disk-creator. make a boot usb, reboot. set bios to prioritize USB boot. "try ubuntu" and install [18:15] hhelp, no force should be required [18:16] cfhowlett: how do I copy that iso to my laptop if it doesnt recognize ay usb-connected device? [18:16] any [18:17] hhelp, ah, I must have missed that little tidbit. [18:18] hhelp, use a friends computer and make the USB. hopefully, you'll have USB boot support through bios [18:18] cfhowlett: fck [18:19] hhelp, call a buddy, use his box and buy him a beer. easy [18:19] cfhowlett: a bit depressing, ill have to wait till morning [18:20] possibly tuesday [18:20] hhelp, best of luck [18:21] cfhowlett: thats nice, amid the circumstances [18:22] cfhowlett: any idea on how to make a bootable usb stick from a college computer? [18:22] in which I dont have admin privileges? [18:22] hhelp, I seem to recall there was a browser site that would do it but that was quite a while back. [18:23] cfhowlett: so, to plan the next 2 days: I have to dowload unetbooting onto a friend´s computer, make a bootable usb stick [18:23] hhelp, yep [18:24] cfhowlett: in my broken laptop, NOT to lose all my precious data, I have to make a partition in which to install the new, working, xubuntu [18:24] cfhowlett: hopefully, that should work [18:24] ? [18:24] hhelp, backup your backups with a backup [18:25] cfhowlett: heh, ultra noob here has never backuped anything [18:26] hhelp, ... you will after you lose a semester or 2 worth of work. [18:27] cfhowlett: was i was trying to ask is: how do I make a backup? and incidentally, I just entered into GRUB, it lists all kernels presently installed in the computer, together with the recovery mode options [18:27] cfhowlett: would any of those make a difference? [18:28] hhelp, ! I didn't even think of it but possibly. boot one of the old kernels [18:29] mirror mirror on the wall...# [18:33] ach [18:33] why did he leave? [18:36] i need help please!!!! [18:37] using an outdated kernelm lshw -C network doesnt show the net as unclaimed [18:37] but I still cannot connect to internet [18:51] how do I enter into GRUB? I did it just by chance [18:51] halpp: typically, pressing shift after the bios screen will show grub, or you can change the settings to allow grub to be seen each time.. [18:51] !grub | halpp [18:51] halpp: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 [18:55] holstein: have you benn following my misfortunes with my installation? I used an old kernel and now I can save documents and files, graphics are back to normal, usb units are readable once again, but no wireless [18:55] halpp: i have not.. but, nothing in grub will help with your wireless [18:55] !wifi [18:55] Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs [18:56] on older hardware, i like to try and make sure the hardare is not broken.. so i dont waste time trying to address a software issue, if there is not one [18:58] but wait a momnent, if lshw -C network doesnt say "network unclaimed" that means that xubuntu recognizes there is an network... holstein ? [18:58] halpp: as a matter of fact, the applet is cycling ,as in trying to find a workable network [19:01] on my current installation of 14.04, I don't get a wireless applet so I can't enter a wifi password. But it still works with the existing wifi database [19:02] there is a temporary solution to this, but a recent software update undid it so I had to do it again [19:03] I have also seen the behaviour where it cycles between searching, waiting for an address and disconnected, but I don't know what causes that [19:09] ok, do I stick to 14.10 or revert to 14.04? [19:26] I don't know. I've stuck with 14.04 for now. It's quite broken enough :( [19:28] halpp: thats up to you to decide.. [19:28] halpp: the 14.04 version is long term support.. the 14.10 version is newer.. [19:29] halpp: i would look at the !wifi link i gave, and see what chipset you have. you can also go to #ubuntu and see if someone has your *exact* chipset, if you cant find someone with first hand experience here [19:29] 14.04 is actually *not* broken [19:30] no, its my internet connection that is [19:31] artag: i see 3 immediate things that can cause what you describe, and i would rule them out in order. 1. the hardare is broken, 2. the device doesnt support linux and doesnt have drivers for linux 3. miscongiguration of the operating system [19:32] halpp: sure.. i didnt imply that it was.. but, you should see that the device works well in a supported operating system, such as windows or whateverr the creators promised you it would work with, then, you can rule out if the hardware is broken or not [19:32] halpp: then, i would look at the chipset, and actually link it here, so that a volunteer can assist you with that.. [19:32] halpp: you can open a terminal and run "lspci" and paste that in.. [19:32] !paste [19:32] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [19:33] or just paste the line for the wifi device here === XeBlackWater is now known as VorVZakone === VorVZakone is now known as zz_VorVZakone [19:46] holstein: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9319188/ [19:46] no, wait [19:46] thats the old one [19:48] the new one, http://paste.ubuntu.com/9319218/ [19:48] there is NO unrecognized network [19:51] holstein: the hardware definitely works : it was OK pre-upgrade and it's not the wifi as such that's the problem - I lose the whole applet, so I can't select / deselect wired ethernet or USB to phone either. I am using this workaround : http://askubuntu.com/questions/449658/networkmanager-tray-nm-applet-is-gone-after-upgrade-to-14-04-trusty - answer 8 worked best for me, but a recent update undid it again. [20:30] i cant change my default browser [20:31] 14.04 [20:31] any ideas > [20:31] ? === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [23:13] Hey guys. Does anyone know how I can play my audio output into my audio input? [23:14] I want it set up so that when I'm Skyping with some friends, they can hear the audio I hear. So if like I'm playing music or a video, they can hear it too [23:14] hi [23:14] what does the -f in sudo apt-get update -f do? [23:16] rosaecaeruleae: "Fix; attempt to correct a system with broken dependencies in place." [23:16] a good [23:16] from the manual page of apt-get, see "man apt-get" [23:17] As a rule of thumb, you can generally type in --help after a command and it should tell you all of the functions. It works for most of the apps I use [23:18] also good [23:18] i learned something new [23:23] i have 9 ppas installed in my xubuntu. Do I have to update their names to the new xubuntu version every time I upgrade? [23:23] for instance, from whatever 14.04 was called to utopic (14.10) [23:25] if the ppa provides packages for the newer release, then yes [23:25] PPA's will be disabled when you upgrade to a major release [23:26] the recommended is to disable and roll back to the packages provided by official repositories before upgrade [23:26] a... [23:27] that's the recommendation [23:30] never folowed it,,, for the last 5 years