[02:40] <xubuntu60w>    
[02:40] <xubuntu60w> Пртвет Hallo
[02:43] <knome> !ru | xubuntu60w
[02:44] <xubuntu60w> Do you speak Russian?
[02:44] <knome> i don't, and as the bot tells you, this channel is english only
[05:31] <Rochvellon> hi, i have a grafical issue with java and xubuntu 14.04 and 14.10. if i start a java programm there will be an issue in the upper left corner of the desktop: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/58265714/java.png any ideas?
[05:49] <bullgard4> Rochvellon: Ich habe Xubuntu 14.04 noch nicht installiert. Ich warte, bis systemd dort angekommen ist und sich stabilisiert hat.
[05:51] <Rochvellon> systemd sollte erstmal von grund auf neu geschrieben werden. mit pflichtenheft und allem, was sonst noch dazu gehört
[05:54] <Unit193> bullgard4: systemd won't land in 14.04, that's an LTS too.  It's installable in 14.10, and *may* become default in 15.04.
[06:06] <bullgard4> Unit193: So there is no hurry for me.
[06:09] <bullgard4> Rochvellon: I rarely saw a Linux development starting with a   functional  specifications document at the outset. Notabe exception have been Linux program developments at universities.
[06:10] <bullgard4> s/Notabe/Notable/
[06:11] <Rochvellon> bullgard4: man sollte aber darauf achten, dass nicht einmal so und ein anderes mal so gecodet wird.
[06:11] <cfhowlett> !de
[06:11] <bullgard4> Rochvellon: Unbedingt!
[06:12] <Rochvellon> eben, und deswegen sollte das von grund auf neu geschrieben werden
[06:12] <bullgard4> cfhowlett: Calm down. Today is Advent 1st.
[09:44] <xubuntu17w> hi, I need guidance regarding releasing a  Xubuntu virtual machine with a list of tools preinstalled and configured, under a different name...
[09:52] <brainwash> Rochvellon: that's https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10978
[09:53] <xubuntu44w> Hallo
[09:53] <Poisoned_Dragon> That's been an issue for a long time.
[09:53] <xubuntu44w> english o german ?
[09:55] <brainwash> !de
[10:09] <xubuntu22w> hi, I need guidance regarding releasing a  Xubuntu virtual machine with a list of tools preinstalled and configured, under a different name...
[10:16] <brainwash> !remaster
[10:16] <brainwash> xubuntu22w: maybe these links will help you ^
[11:06] <ted123> When I connect my apple usb mouse it works fine, but inserting a usb memory stick doesnt. Anyone have similar experience?
[12:47] <Rochvellon> brainwash: thank you
[14:45] <KM0201> got something that is driving me crazy... can anyone explain 1. how the hell this got in my menu (i didn't do it), and 2... how do I remove it?  it doesn't show up in any of the menu editors..   http://imagebin.org/324935
[14:48] <KM0201> if that link doesn't work..   http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j263/IndyGunFreak/Screenshot-11302014-094253AM_zps2934032c.png
[14:48] <KM0201> i'm open to suggestions
[17:09] <xubuntu63w> Does anyone know how to change the character encoding for the terminal in Xubuntu 12.04?
[17:11] <xubuntu63w> In 14.04 it is easy, there it is this tab set character encoding. But I dont know how to do it in 12.04.
[17:41] <Guest37162> hi
[17:42] <hhelp> is there anybody here?
[17:42] <cfhowlett> hhelp, ask your support question
[17:44] <hhelp> ok, my xubuntu 14.10 64 bits cannot detect any wireless network nor detect any LAN connection. I am now using another computer. I copied the results for lspci and sudo lshw -C network here http://paste.ubuntu.com/9317621/
[17:44] <hhelp> audio doesnt work either, i cannot save edited documents or files, graphics are not as defined as before, resolution is now worse
[17:45] <cfhowlett> hhelp, wifi doesn't work, and cant save and resolution is bad?  fresh installation or what?
[17:46] <hhelp> cfhowlett: dont wanna nuke it
[17:46] <cfhowlett> hhelp, not what I asked ... IS THIS A FRESH INSTALL?
[17:46] <cfhowlett> :)
[17:46] <hhelp> cfhowlett: a sorry, no its an upgrade from 14.04
[17:47] <cfhowlett> hhelp, with that many unrelated components failing, I'd venture to say the upgrade was faulty. also:  14.10?  why?  9 months of support and 14.04 is LTS.
[17:48] <hhelp> cfhowlett: we can discuss abotu that once i´ve solved this issue :)
[17:49] <cfhowlett> hhelp, right.  well, if the upgrade was faulty, reinstall.  torrent the .iso, verify the iso, make a USB, verify the USB, boot the USB and install.  do not format your /home (which you backed up anyway).
[17:50] <hhelp> cfhowlett: computer doesnt recognize any usb hard drives or sticks either
[17:50] <cfhowlett> !install | hhelp,
[17:51] <cfhowlett> hhelp, if you have a linux installed, you can still do it with just the .iso
[17:51] <cfhowlett> hhelp, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux
[17:51] <cfhowlett> never done it myself you understand ...
[17:54] <cfhowlett> also ... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux#Without_CD
[17:54] <hhelp> cfhowlett: if I use the "install from linux", will my machine recognize the USB stick?
[17:54] <hhelp> otherwise its useless
[17:55] <cfhowlett> hhelp, I've never done it, but the link I just posted requires no USB ...
[17:56] <hhelp> cfhowlett: those instructions need a working internet connection, which I dont have
[17:57] <cfhowlett> hhelp, get the iso, make a USB
[17:58] <cfhowlett> cfhowlett, no internet so ... visit your college?  library?
[17:58] <hhelp> cfhowlett: thats where I am now
[17:59] <cfhowlett> hhelp, cupcakes!  get the iso!
[18:03] <hhelp> cfhowlett: college computer cannot open the torrent file and I need privileges to install new software
[18:05] <hhelp> ok, it will take 2 hours
[18:05] <cfhowlett> hhelp, and this is why you NEVER leave the house without a working Ubuntu USB.  At my college, I boot the up a stick, don't bother signing in crap, get the internet and all my apps -- in ENGLISH, since I don't speak Chinese.
[18:06] <hhelp> cfhowlett: for thaat I have to hard reboot the machine (in plain english, unplug it) and restart it.
[18:06] <cfhowlett> hhelp, true ...
[18:07] <hhelp> id still use my own laptop, college computers are old models
[18:07] <cfhowlett> hhelp, same here  .... lenovo all-in-one model
[18:07] <hhelp> even still, im not sure if the boot order would allow me to choose the usb stick as the first option, dont habve BIOS privileges
[18:08] <hhelp> cfhowlett: wow, the ISO copy 64 bits is in the usb stick
[18:08] <hhelp> no, wait, 8 minutes
[18:08] <hhelp> but flowing
[18:10] <ted123> i have a mount disk icon on my desktop for /dev/sda2 which is named TAILS xxxx. This is a usb image I had on my disk on a prior installation. When I double click it, it says it cannot mount the volume. And the volume is not listed in /etc/fstab either. Any idea why it keeps showing up on my desktop? Are there other places than /etc/fstab i should look?
[18:13] <ted123> hm sda2 is an extended partition which two other partitions which sit inside as logical
[18:13] <hhelp> cfhowlett: please paste the exat instructions I have to follow if I go with the iso in the usb stick. I assume I now have to turn off the laptop, change the booting order to put usb stick in the first place and... then?
[18:14] <hhelp> can I force xubuntu to recognize a plugged in usb stick?
[18:15] <cfhowlett> hhelp, hold on there Hoss.  FIRST, you'll need to copy that .iso to your computer.  then fire up ubuntu startup-disk-creator.  make a boot usb, reboot.  set bios to prioritize USB boot.  "try ubuntu" and install
[18:15] <cfhowlett> hhelp, no force should be required
[18:16] <hhelp> cfhowlett: how do I copy that iso to my laptop if it doesnt recognize ay usb-connected device?
[18:16] <hhelp> any
[18:17] <cfhowlett> hhelp, ah, I must have missed that little tidbit.
[18:18] <cfhowlett> hhelp, use a friends computer and make the USB. hopefully, you'll have USB boot support through bios
[18:18] <hhelp> cfhowlett: fck
[18:19] <cfhowlett> hhelp, call a buddy, use his box and buy him a beer.  easy
[18:19] <hhelp> cfhowlett: a bit depressing, ill have to wait till morning
[18:20] <hhelp> possibly tuesday
[18:20] <cfhowlett> hhelp, best of luck
[18:21] <hhelp> cfhowlett: thats nice, amid the circumstances
[18:22] <hhelp> cfhowlett: any idea on how to make a bootable usb stick from a college computer?
[18:22] <hhelp> in which I dont have admin privileges?
[18:22] <cfhowlett> hhelp, I seem to recall there was a browser site that would do it but that was quite a while back.
[18:23] <hhelp> cfhowlett: so, to plan the next 2 days: I have to dowload unetbooting onto a friend´s computer, make a bootable usb stick
[18:23] <cfhowlett> hhelp, yep
[18:24] <hhelp> cfhowlett: in my broken laptop, NOT to lose all my precious data, I have to make a partition in which to install the new, working, xubuntu
[18:24] <hhelp> cfhowlett: hopefully, that should work
[18:24] <hhelp> ?
[18:24] <cfhowlett> hhelp, backup your backups with a backup
[18:25] <hhelp> cfhowlett: heh, ultra noob here has never backuped anything
[18:26] <cfhowlett> hhelp, ... you will after you lose a semester or 2 worth of work.
[18:27] <hhelp> cfhowlett: was i was trying to ask is: how do I make a backup? and incidentally, I just entered into GRUB, it lists all kernels presently installed in the computer, together with the recovery mode options
[18:27] <hhelp> cfhowlett: would any of those make a difference?
[18:28] <cfhowlett> hhelp, !  I didn't even think of it but possibly.  boot one of the old kernels
[18:29] <hhelp> mirror mirror on the wall...#
[18:33] <hhelp> ach
[18:33] <hhelp> why did he leave?
[18:36] <hhelp> i need help please!!!!
[18:37] <hhelp> using an outdated kernelm lshw -C network doesnt show the net as unclaimed
[18:37] <hhelp> but I still cannot connect to internet
[18:51] <halpp> how do I enter into GRUB? I did it just by chance
[18:51] <holstein> halpp: typically, pressing shift after the bios screen will show grub, or you can change the settings to allow grub to be seen each time..
[18:51] <holstein> !grub | halpp
[18:55] <halpp> holstein: have you benn following my misfortunes with my installation? I used an old kernel and now I can save documents and files, graphics are back to normal, usb units are readable once again, but no wireless
[18:55] <holstein> halpp: i have not.. but, nothing in grub will help with your wireless
[18:55] <holstein> !wifi
[18:56] <holstein> on older hardware, i like to try and make sure the hardare is not broken.. so i dont waste time trying to address a software issue, if there is not one
[18:58] <halpp> but wait a momnent, if lshw -C network doesnt say "network unclaimed" that means that xubuntu recognizes there is an network... holstein ?
[18:58] <halpp> halpp: as a matter of fact, the applet is cycling ,as in trying to find a workable network
[19:01] <artag> on my current installation of 14.04, I don't get a wireless applet so I can't enter a wifi password. But it still works with the existing wifi database
[19:02] <artag> there is a temporary solution to this, but a recent software update undid it so I had to do it again
[19:03] <artag> I have also seen the behaviour where it cycles between searching, waiting for an address and disconnected, but I don't know what causes that
[19:09] <halpp> ok, do I stick to 14.10 or revert to 14.04?
[19:26] <artag> I don't know. I've stuck with 14.04 for now. It's quite broken enough :(
[19:28] <holstein> halpp: thats up to you to decide..
[19:28] <holstein> halpp: the 14.04 version is long term support.. the 14.10 version is newer..
[19:29] <holstein> halpp: i would look at the !wifi link i gave, and see what chipset you have. you can also go to #ubuntu and see if someone has your *exact* chipset, if you cant find someone with first hand experience here
[19:29] <holstein> 14.04 is actually *not* broken
[19:30] <halpp> no, its my internet  connection that is
[19:31] <holstein> artag: i see 3 immediate things that can cause what you describe, and i would rule them out in order. 1. the hardare is broken, 2. the device doesnt support linux and doesnt have drivers for linux 3. miscongiguration of the operating system
[19:32] <holstein> halpp: sure.. i didnt imply that it was.. but, you should see that the device works well in a supported operating system, such as windows or whateverr the creators promised you it would work with, then, you can rule out if the hardware is broken or not
[19:32] <holstein> halpp: then, i would look at the chipset, and actually link it here, so that a volunteer can assist you with that..
[19:32] <holstein> halpp: you can open a terminal and run "lspci" and paste that in..
[19:32] <holstein> !paste
[19:33] <holstein> or just paste the line for the wifi device here
[19:46] <halpp> holstein: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9319188/
[19:46] <halpp> no, wait
[19:46] <halpp> thats the old one
[19:48] <halpp> the new one, http://paste.ubuntu.com/9319218/
[19:48] <halpp> there is NO unrecognized network
[19:51] <artag> holstein: the hardware definitely works : it was OK pre-upgrade and it's not the wifi as such that's the problem - I lose the whole applet, so I can't select / deselect wired ethernet or USB to phone either. I am using this workaround : http://askubuntu.com/questions/449658/networkmanager-tray-nm-applet-is-gone-after-upgrade-to-14-04-trusty - answer 8 worked best for me, but a recent update undid it again.
[20:30] <John_John_> i cant change my default browser
[20:31] <John_John_> 14.04
[20:31] <John_John_> any ideas >
[20:31] <John_John_> ?
[23:13] <cida> Hey guys. Does anyone know how I can play my audio output into my audio input?
[23:14] <cida> I  want it set up so that when I'm Skyping with some friends, they can hear the audio I hear. So if like I'm playing music or a video, they can hear it too
[23:14] <rosaecaeruleae> hi
[23:14] <rosaecaeruleae> what does the -f in sudo apt-get update -f do?
[23:16] <brainwash> rosaecaeruleae: "Fix; attempt to correct a system with broken dependencies in place."
[23:16] <rosaecaeruleae> a good
[23:16] <brainwash> from the manual page of apt-get, see "man apt-get"
[23:17] <cida> As a rule of thumb, you can generally type in --help after a command and it should tell you all of the functions. It works for most of the apps I use
[23:18] <rosaecaeruleae> also good
[23:18] <rosaecaeruleae> i learned something new
[23:23] <rosaecaeruleae> i have 9 ppas installed in my xubuntu. Do I have to update their names to the new xubuntu version every time I upgrade?
[23:23] <rosaecaeruleae> for instance, from whatever 14.04 was called to utopic (14.10)
[23:25] <brainwash> if the ppa provides packages for the newer release, then yes
[23:25] <xangua> PPA's will be disabled when you upgrade to a major release
[23:26] <xangua> the recommended is to disable and roll back to the packages provided by official repositories before upgrade
[23:26] <rosaecaeruleae> a...
[23:27] <brainwash> that's the recommendation
[23:30] <rosaecaeruleae> never folowed it,,, for the last 5 years