[02:29] <beltorak> is anyone here?
[02:33] <selby> how do you use git?
[03:22] <valorie> selby: what exactly do you mean?
[03:22] <valorie> it all depends on your purpose for using git
[03:32] <selby> valorie: sorry, i was just using you for bait.  I was testing my theory on if people respond if you just ask a question rather than asking to ask a question or asking if anyone is home.  I'm glad you responded, though. ^^
[03:32] <valorie> heh
[03:33] <valorie> it is certainly true that asking a question in a support channel is the best way to get support
[03:33] <valorie> "anybody here" will likely be ignored
[03:34] <selby> yeah, i just idle hear, but i'd always be down to answer a question if i see an interesting one
[03:34] <selby> here*
[03:35] <valorie> yep, we need lots of answerers
[03:35] <valorie> none of us knows everything, not even ubottu
[04:07] <jdwwatts> anyone know how i can get k mail client set up ?
[04:09] <arthurfiggis> jdwwatts: usually it's just a matter of starting up kontact and filling out the info for the auto wizard, that's all i had to do
[04:11] <jdwwatts> i seem to have trouble getting it to log into gmail and the othe two eb mails i have
[04:11] <jdwwatts> web
[04:12] <jdwwatts> but I never tried it through kontact yes
[04:12] <jdwwatts> yet
[04:18] <arthurfiggis> hmm...any error message that's popping up that might give any hints? i've only tried setting it up through kontact myself, but i thought that kmail was a part of kontact, so you wouildn't think that'd make a difference...hmm
[04:20] <reborn7> Hey there?
[04:36] <reborn7> There?
[06:31] <Bomber> hey ll. If you'll notice, I hve n issue with my keybord, sus R50l....
[06:32] <valorie> looks like your A key died?
[06:33] <Bomber> if I'm either patiente or fumble round with lifting my keybord, it works
[06:34] <Bomber> i'm running kubuntu with windows in dul boot
[06:34] <Bomber> keybord works fine in windows
[06:34] <valorie> that's very bizarre
[06:35] <Bomber> it's the `AQ1 and tb tht don't work
[06:35] <Bomber> sometimes, if I ply round with them
[06:37] <hateball> have you somehow set up the wrong model or some such?
[06:39] <Bomber> ?
[06:39] <Bomber> wht do you men?
[07:01] <Bomber> ?
[07:10] <Bomber> Is the keyboard related to synapsis?
[07:13] <soee> good morning
[07:16] <valorie> Bomber: synaptics, you mean? if so, that is for touchpads
[07:16] <Bomber> well, I hve  touchpd problem s well, but I find  "temp" solution i lwys use
[07:16] <valorie> I'm thinking perhaps dpkg --reconfigure could help
[07:17] <Bomber> (just relized I cn sve  the fix to the /boot/grub config file
[07:17] <Bomber> (just relized I cn sve the fix to the /boot/grub config file0
[07:17] <Bomber> (sorry for double)
[07:17] <valorie> if you read `man dpkg` you might see what you want
[07:17] <valorie> in the konsole
[07:19] <Bomber> um...
[07:19] <Bomber> tht's wierd
[07:19] <Bomber> dpkg is for depackging debin files....
[07:19] <Bomber> nd it seems tht it doesn't recognize --reconfigure
[07:20] <Bomber> wht exactly should I reconfigure...?
[07:21] <valorie> that's what I don't know
[07:21] <valorie> there is a step when you install, where you are asked about your keyboard
[07:21] <Bomber> wht...?
[07:21] <valorie> it is possible the wrong keyboard was chosen at that time
[07:21] <Bomber> huh.....
[07:21] <valorie> because there are so many possibilities
[07:21] <Bomber> ummmmm........i'm not sure i wnt to sk wht you're suggesting me to do
[07:22] <valorie> I'm not asking you to do anything, because I don't know
[07:23] <Bomber> OMFG
[07:23] <Bomber> OMFG
[07:23] <Bomber> DUE
[07:23] <Bomber> YOU'RE THE KING
[07:23] <Bomber> HOLY SHIT
[07:23] <Bomber> WOW
[07:23] <unopaste> Bomber you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[07:23] <valorie> sorry, I see by googling I already made a mistake -- it is dpkg-reconfigure
[07:24] <Bomber> hmmm, OK.....almost...it's actualy slightly better now.
[07:25] <Bomber> valorie: Ok, So apparently I had the generic keyboard model set
[07:25] <valorie> what did you do, Bomber?
[07:25] <valorie> ah
[07:25] <Bomber> I now have the asus model set, but it
[07:25] <Bomber> it's still not 00%
[07:25] <Bomber> s you can see
[07:26] <Bomber> I guess I should try all of the options untill I find the right one, huh?
[07:27] <valorie> or perhaps google on your asus model until you find something that looks more correct
[07:27] <Bomber> ?
[07:27] <valorie> do you see your exact model number listed somewhere in your choices, when you reconfigure?
[07:27] <Bomber> I mean, it's showing me only one single asus keyboard option, without regard to my pc model
[07:28] <Bomber> no
[07:28] <valorie> ah
[07:28] <Bomber> just asus | asus laptop
[07:28] <valorie> you've reached the limit of my knowledge here
[07:28] <Bomber> You've done more than to improve my life
[07:28] <valorie> I use a laptop, and the settings (so far) have Just Worked
[07:29] <Bomber> I had to wait 10 seconds for the letters to pop up
[07:29] <Bomber> they take up to 2 seconds now
[07:29] <Bomber> no more
[07:29] <valorie> still not optimal
[07:29] <valorie> did you use sudo dpkg-reconfigure ?
[07:29] <valorie> or what
[07:30] <Bomber> nope
[07:31] <Bomber> alt+f2 -> keyboard
[07:31] <valorie> ok, systemsettings
[07:31] <Bomber> yep
[07:31] <valorie> cool
[07:31] <Bomber> yeh. still wishing for improvments. Seems like none :(
[07:31] <valorie> well, I don't know the name of the package
[07:31] <valorie> sec
[07:33] <valorie> Bomber: in a konsole, try: `sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration`
[07:33] <valorie> without the ticks
[07:34] <Bomber> commnd dpkg-reconfigure not found
[07:35] <Bomber> holy shit....now it's not working t ll...wtf
[07:36] <valorie> ?
[07:36] <valorie> strange
[07:37] <Bomber> it has a strange behavior...
[07:37] <valorie> buh, I guess not
[07:38] <valorie> !info dpkg-reconfigure
[07:38] <valorie> why did it disappear?
[07:38] <valorie> :(
[07:38] <Bomber> utopic?
[07:38] <Bomber> oh.
[07:39] <Bomber> so I should look for n lterntive?
[07:39] <Bomber> for dpkg-reconfigure?
[07:39] <valorie> gah, sorry for that
[07:39] <valorie> I had no idea we deprecated that
[07:40] <valorie> it still shows up in the wikis, etc.
[07:40] <valorie> :(
[07:41] <Bomber> there seems to be n lterntive?
[07:42] <Bomber> http://askubuntu.com/questions/159663/how-to-reset-the-xorg-xserver
[07:47] <valorie> Bomber: what version of Kubuntu are you using?
[07:47] <Bomber> 14.04
[07:47] <Bomber> sorry
[07:47] <valorie> odder and oddery
[07:47] <Bomber> 4.0
[07:47] <Bomber> (one)
[07:47] <valorie> what?
[07:47] <Bomber> fourteen point ten
[07:47] <valorie> ok
[07:47] <Bomber> fucking one is stuck
[07:48] <valorie> !language
[07:48] <Bomber> yeh, sorry
[07:48] <valorie> got it
[07:48] <valorie> so perhaps a look at ~/.configure is in order after all
[07:48] <Bomber> lright, here we go
[07:48] <valorie> that is your home folder
[07:48] <valorie> and then display hidden files
[07:48] <valorie> and you should see it
[07:49] <valorie> config files are almost all text files
[07:49] <valorie> rather fun to read, actually
[07:49] <Bomber> crud..if i could only ctully type in freking tild
[07:49] <Bomber> -_-
[07:50] <hateball> copy paste :p
[07:50] <valorie> yes, c/p is your friend
[07:51] <valorie> hateball probably knows more about this....
[07:51] <Bomber> ummm
[07:51] <Bomber> wht m i missing...
[07:52] <Bomber> i'm doing something wrong...there's no configure file in the home folder
[07:52] <hateball> Bomber: Did you check the KDE keyboard settings also? You can set models and layouts there, it is possible something is off
[07:52] <Bomber> thnk htebll
[07:52] <Bomber> it's llredy been done
[07:52] <hateball> Oh, ok
[07:52] <Bomber> i found out my keybord ws on generl, switched to sus.
[07:52] <Bomber> helped  bit for  while
[07:52] <Bomber> now it's completely bonkers....
[07:53] <hateball> Bomber: Do you have your install/live media still? If you boot that, do you get the same behavior?
[07:53] <Bomber> instll/live medi?
[07:54] <hateball> The CD or USB from which you installed
[07:54] <Bomber> um.........no.. :(
[07:54] <Bomber> should i be relly sd?
[07:54] <valorie> you could try logging in as a new user
[07:54] <Bomber> hmmm
[07:54] <Bomber> ok
[07:55] <Bomber> doing it now
[07:55] <valorie> and see if it has the same behavior
[07:55] <Bomber> see you guys soon
[07:59] <Bomber> but n
[07:59] <Bomber> didn't work
[08:00] <Bomber> i did do it though with the other session running..
[08:00] <Bomber> but still, the fct is tht ll the settings were reset nd still hd teh sme issues...
[08:00] <valorie> that shouldn't matter
[08:01] <Bomber> i'm missing something with the tild/configure thing
[08:03] <Bomber> uuuuuuuuhhhhhhhh
[08:03] <Bomber> the dpkg-reconfigure just worked
[08:04] <Bomber> i'm in the blue screen
[08:04] <Bomber> right now i need to choose for ltGr
[08:04] <Bomber> should i choose defult?
[08:04] <valorie> ltGr?
[08:04] <Bomber> dd the missing letter
[08:05] <Bomber> (lt, ctrl, shift)
[08:05] <valorie> sorry, I have no experience with this
[08:05] <Bomber> hmmm
[08:05] <valorie> it's always just worked
[08:05] <Bomber> even though you suggested i do the dpkg-reconfigure? you got me confused
[08:05] <Bomber> it is working
[08:06] <Bomber> i'm just not sure which option to select
[08:06] <Bomber> do you know the pckge configurtion screen/pp?
[08:06] <valorie> screen pp?
[08:06] <Bomber> ...nm
[08:06] <Bomber> it's not sking bout x server
[08:07] <Bomber> ctrl+lt+bckspce
[08:07] <Bomber> i'll just ignore it, i guess..
[08:07] <valorie> yes, I was the one who suggested dpkg-reconfigure
[08:07] <valorie> but I've never done that with a keyboard, and found little while googling for you
[08:07] <Bomber> oh, ok.. thnks
[08:07] <Bomber> well, just did it
[08:07] <Bomber> nd nothing new..
[08:07] <Bomber> i'll try severl options there
[08:08] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:12] <Bomber> drnit...
[08:13] <Bomber> mybe its some service tht's running on my computer..
[09:11] <Bomber> valorie: OK.....I think i got wht's going on here
[09:11] <Bomber> nd it sounds like hell
[09:12] <Bomber> there is some sort of buffer.....in the computer
[09:12] <Bomber> this hppens in the dul boot screen nd in windows s well, not just kubuntu..
[09:13] <Bomber> if i type some text, specifclly i test "ok", i delete it, try to type one of the keys tht's problmtic, (the key doesn't reigster), i press bckspce severl times, type in few of the keys gin, nd keep hitting bckspce more thn i press the unregistering keys
[09:13] <Bomber> nd they suddenly register gin, untill i strt typing OTHER keys.
[09:13] <Bomber> nd then i need to do the whole thing gin.
[09:14] <valorie> dual boot screen?
[09:14] <Bomber> yeh
[09:14] <valorie> do you mean grub?
[09:15] <Bomber> when i edit the grub
[09:15] <valorie> something is def. wrong
[09:15] <valorie> I wonder if it could be hardware
[09:16] <valorie> some loose cable or something
[09:16] <Bomber> dsd
[09:33] <cfyz> A
[11:47] <macstar> anyone knows about cutepaste? that copy and paste tool for KDE? .. i installed it but whenever i want to initiate it via Konsole it says:
[11:47] <macstar> http://pastebin.kde.org/
[11:47] <macstar> No such file or directory
[11:47] <macstar> and also QIODevice::read: device not open
[12:00] <alvin> The amd64 zsync file on http://files.kde.org/snapshots/kubuntu-plasma5/ is wrong
[12:00] <alvin> it has the wrong filename
[12:01] <macstar> never mind ... found it out
[12:17] <Riddell> alvin: what does the filename matter?
[12:17] <alvin> Riddell: I don't know, but the .zsync file does not want to download. It wants to download utopic-desktop-amd64.iso
[12:18] <Riddell> alvin: ok thanks I'll just remove them
[12:19] <alvin> Thanks. .zsync is handy though. Saves a lot of bandwidth resulting in faster download if you have a similar .iso.
[12:21] <hyper_ch> hi there, in dolphin the places sidebar, where is that data actually stored?
[12:25] <bazhang> http://linuxexchange.org/questions/2726/kdedolphin-config-file-for-places
[12:25] <bazhang> that?
[13:07] <alvin> How do I start the installer on the plasma5 image? I can boot it, but it ends with 'saned disabled: edit /etc/default/saned'
[13:08] <alvin> nvm. startx just works
[13:10] <soee> :)
[13:17] <BluesKaj_> 'Morning folks
[13:30] <Roey> g'morning folks
[13:34] <hyper_ch> bazhang: why is that in ~/.local and not ~/.kde ?
[13:34] <hyper_ch> thx though :)
[14:17] <alvin> locales are even more messed up than they were in KDE4 :-(
[14:18] <alvin> I want the system in English instead of my mother tongue, but with sensible stuff like A4 paper, no AM/PM, Metric,...
[14:21] <Avihay_work> maybe a locale like the UK? or Australia?
[14:31] <alvin> UK uses AM/PM
[15:18] <Pens_101> helllo
[17:31] <floown> hello
[17:33] <floown> I wanted to do a backup for my /home/floown, so I have done a : tar czvf homfloown.tar.gz /home/floown but I have a message in end : tar: Arrêt avec code d'échec à cause des erreurs précédentes
[17:33] <lordievader> floown: Err, could you translate that please.
[17:34] <floown> lordievader: tar: end with echec code because previous errors
[17:34] <floown> in fact, I have no error until this line
[17:35] <lordievader> floown: Could you pastebin the full output?
[17:36] <lordievader> !paste | floown
[17:37] <floown> lordievader: can I do a file with the output? It's to long
[17:37] <lordievader> !pastebinit
[17:37] <lordievader> ^ might help
[17:38] <genii> Perhaps you executed the command from inside the directory you are tarring up
[17:42] <floown> lordievader: ok, I have done a chown, the command works now ^^
[17:42] <floown> thx
[17:43] <lordievader> floown: I was thinking it would be something along those lines ;)
[17:43] <reborn7> there?
[17:43] <lordievader> reborn7: ? Where?
[17:43] <reborn7> finally! last night, i was looking for anyone help me, but it was night,
[17:43] <reborn7> so
[17:44] <reborn7> i was looking for the disable the sleep screensaver.
[17:44] <reborn7> i can't find it.
[17:44] <lordievader> Plasma 4 or 5?
[17:44] <reborn7> 4
[17:46] <lordievader> Hmm, can't remember Plasma4 well enough but I though it was somewhere among the display settings.
[17:47] <reborn7> Ok. let me look up.
[17:48] <reborn7> Enegry Saving-System Setting? i can't find it for word "Disabled"
[17:49] <lordievader> reborn7: 0 ;)
[17:50] <reborn7> uncheck "screen enegry saving" will it work?
[17:55] <lordievader> reborn7: It should, if it doesn't set it to 360 min. The bug might still be around.
[17:56] <reborn7> okay! i hope it work! so how about caffeine ? broken?
[18:00] <lordievader> Kaffeine, the media player?
[18:04] <reborn7> No, it not, for disable screen saver, i was used that, it worked, but i read some of forum, it say now useless.
[18:04] <reborn7> https://launchpad.net/caffeine
[18:07] <lordievader> It's GTK: from gi.repository import GObject, Gtk ;)
[18:07] <reborn7> oh i see.
[18:09] <lordievader> Though it is (ab)using dbus to keep things awake.
[18:09] <lordievader> Might still work.
[18:17] <blurkis> Can some one recomend a good site on the internet that sells mascots of the tux penguin?
[18:19] <reborn7> interesting, i just installed caffeine, but i can't find caffeine.
[18:19] <reborn7> i also command in the terminal, sudo caffeine, and it appear error.
[18:21] <lordievader> reborn7: What error?
[18:23] <reborn7> http://imgur.com/Z6lY7ZA
[18:31] <lordievader> reborn7: You shouldn't run it with sudo.
[18:31] <lordievader> There is no need and it is also the cause of this error.
[18:33] <reborn7> oh ok
[18:43] <arthurfiggis> well, kubuntu 14.10 is turning out to be probably the most pleasant desktop experience i've had :) couple of hiccups here and there...particularly with dual-monitors (or in my case one monitor and a TV connected via HDMI :) )...when both are connected, the login screen comes up but the fonts are all so extremely tiny that you can barely read them, whereas with just the monitor hooked up...
[18:43] <arthurfiggis> ...everything's fine...anyone know what might be going on there?
[18:44] <rooc> arthurfiggis: what is the resolution of the tv?
[18:44] <rooc> arthurfiggis: brb, quick meeting.
[18:45] <arthurfiggis> rooc: i believe that it maxes out at 1280x720, it's not much bigger than the monitor :) although the monitor maxes out at 1920x1080, so maybe there's some problem happening there when i turn on the "unify outputs" option to mirror across both screens...didn't have any problem like that with gnome3 oddly enough! (oh, that's okay :) )
[19:23] <m_tadeu> hi...howcome "sudo rm -rf <dir>" says permission denied
[19:27] <lordievader> m_tadeu: What dir are we talking about?
[19:28] <m_tadeu> some dir that was created from a "git clone" operation and then git-daemon changed ownership to gitdaemon:nogroup
[19:29] <m_tadeu> mmm...permissions are set to read(user,group,others)
[19:31] <rooc> arthurfiggis: are you still there?
[19:32] <lordievader> m_tadeu: Hmm, root should be able to remove it...
[19:32] <arthurfiggis> rooc: yes, sorry about that! i had to disconnect and disable/re-enable the wireless connection, was using kismet to try and figure out which channel had the least interference on it and it tends to knock my connection out when closed :)
[19:33] <m_tadeu> lordievader: any idea how to fix this?
[19:33] <rooc> arthurfiggis: you're on 14.10?
[19:34] <lordievader> m_tadeu: Perhaps "sudo su" and removing it from there?
[19:42] <arthurfiggis> rooc: yep, just installed it...oh, about a week ago i suppose :) didn't have dual monitor support at all until i installed kde-workspace-randr, then i got the usual config options...but mirroring the monitor and the TV, the fonts wind up being...i don't know, i have it set at 14pt but it looks more like 4pt without a magnifying glass :(
[19:43] <m_tadeu> lordievader: no luck
[19:43] <rooc> arthurfiggis: i'll have to update mine to 14.1 so i can see the same thing. i'm at work too, so i have nothing to compare with. unless someone else answers your questions it'll have to wait a few hours.
[19:44] <rooc> my gut is telling me that the desktop appearance has to be altered for the resolution. sounds a little as if the icons/fonts are rendered for a lower resolution.
[19:46] <arthurfiggis> rooc: hmm, you might be right...i _think_ i mentioned it earlier, but the TV's resolution only goes up to 1366x738, whereas the monitor goes up to 1920x1080...maybe that's causing some problem? i'm not sure how i'd go about fixing it though...the fonts are so small with both connected that you can't tell what you're doing except for the icons :)
[19:47] <arthurfiggis> the font on the login screen when it comes up is tiny as well, but maybe if i set things to a lower resolution and reboot?
[19:50] <lordievader> m_tadeu: Read only filesystem?
[19:57] <arthurfiggis> rooc: no problem though, thanks for the suggestions...if you get a chance it'd be much appreciated but I'll try poking at it a bit myself in the meantime and see if i can make it behave ;)
[20:06] <m_tadeu> lordievader: nop....inside my home dir
[20:10] <lordievader> m_tadeu: Can still be read-only. Ext4 file system>
[20:11] <m_tadeu> lordievader: agree....but it's not
[20:17] <arthurfiggis> on another note altogether, is anyone here using the "encrypted home directories" option in 14.10 when installing? i tried it at first, but for some reason when i enabled it and the installation finished, i had no swap partition or space allocated at all and the machine died pretty quick :( i just reinstalled with full disk encryption enabled and home directory encryption disabled, then...
[20:17] <arthurfiggis> ...everything worked fine
[22:56] <gatto> hello
[22:56] <gatto> anyone there?
[23:06] <arthurfiggis> gatto: i'd imagine there's a couple or 200 people around, sure :) what sort of problem are you having, if any
[23:07] <genii> !details
[23:13] <gatto> I installed Kubuntu Plasma 5 for testing and I love it, but I'd like to downgrade to Plasma 4. Is it possible to do this without reinstalling? if so, how?