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shiggitayherro01:58
shiggitayrsalveti, r u here02:00
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josePHPagodahello everyone!  I'm wondering if there is a way to configure ubuntu to send mouse click events rather than touch screen events?04:58
RAOFjosePHPagoda: It does (on the desktop). On the phone, no.05:08
lotuspsychjeRAOF: is there a trick to get it working on older games for desktop?05:11
RAOFOn the desktop it should just work; on the phone, urgh.05:11
RAOFPointer emulation is hard.05:11
lotuspsychjeRAOF: it doesnt recognize touch in his older games05:11
RAOFOn the desktop? Odd.05:12
lotuspsychjehe's on 14.04 desktop yes05:12
RAOFNote: by “on the desktop” I mean, ‘In X’.05:12
RAOFHm.05:12
lotuspsychjeyes, he has lenovo touch laptop05:12
lotuspsychjejosePHPagoda: you still here mate?05:13
RAOFPointer emulation is working here on my hilariously unconfigured touchscreen.05:15
lotuspsychjelol05:15
RAOF(Hilariously unconfigured because the input is mapped to the whole of my multi-monitor desktop, not just the actual touch display)05:15
lotuspsychjenice05:16
lotuspsychjewhat a world would be without ubuntu :p05:16
RAOFIn our defence, Windows 8 maps it to the _wrong_ monitor, which is equally hilarious.05:17
lotuspsychjejosePHPagoda: waky waky, tell RAOF your issue05:17
lotuspsychjewin8 is such a joke, in every way05:17
lotuspsychjei helped more then 30 people with installing ubuntu on eufi machines already05:18
lotuspsychjeuefi05:18
josePHPagodahi raof05:53
josePHPagodasry, was on the phone05:53
josePHPagodaubuntu won't run on my machine with uefi :(05:53
josePHPagodai have to use the good old bios05:53
josePHPagodalotuspsychje: it's a touch desktop05:53
josePHPagodabut yeah, sdl will recognize that the mouse moved05:53
josePHPagodabut it doesn't get a mouse click event05:54
josePHPagodawhich is fine, that's how it should work05:54
josePHPagodabut I was hoping there was a way to configure it so that mouse click events are sent instead05:54
josePHPagodaRAOF: ^05:54
RAOFAh.05:54
RAOFYeah, the touchscreen driver doesn't do tap-to-click.05:55
josePHPagodai realize that :)05:56
josePHPagodaso no way to change it?05:56
RAOFIt doesn't have code to do tap-to-click.05:56
RAOFThere's obviously a way to change that - copy the tap-to-click state machine from xf86-input-synaptics - but there's no configuration option you can cheaply twiddle.05:57
Psykustried installing ubuntu touch devel channel to nexus 7 2013, ran the ubuntu-device-flash tool and it downloaded/installed a few things then my device rebooted to the google logo and is just sitting there. any ideas?06:44
dholbachgood morning08:11
mihirdholbach: morning :)08:11
dholbachhey mihir08:12
mihirhey what's up ?08:12
dholbachlife's good - just had a nice weekend - how about you?08:14
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shiggitayhmm I guess Mr rsalveti isn't around :(08:34
Psykusso ubuntu touch doesn't work with bluetooth keyboards?08:36
popeyPsykus: it should, but currently it's limited to only audio device pairing.  I believe that will be changed soon enough08:45
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Psykusahh okay. thanks. also looks like they never released a ubuntu desktop build for the 2013 nexus 7, was curious to check that out08:46
popeyPsykus: yeah, we never did08:47
Psykushope to see some sort of desktop option eventually, I kind of like how you can hop between the two in windows 808:48
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shiggitayHelp me spread this around: http://www.gofundme.com/shiggity_EL201509:11
JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Monday, and happy Day With(out) Art Day! :-D09:25
shiggitayheh09:26
shiggitayHappy December too09:26
popeydbarth_: I'm getting apparmor denials in twtter webapp...09:37
popeyhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/9327984/09:37
popeydbarth_: ^09:37
dbarth_popey: hi09:38
dbarth_popey: the app still works?09:38
popeyyes09:38
dbarth_popey: the cpu one is harmless, the qml cache is new09:39
dbarth_popey: thanks i'll report the bug to jamie09:40
popeykk09:40
dbarth_https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu/+bug/139791209:43
ubot5Launchpad bug 1397912 in webbrowser-app "[webapp-container] apparmor denies access to QML cache" [Medium,Triaged]09:43
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rsalvetishiggitay: hey, what's up?13:19
shiggitayhey any progress on UT for the N5? I have a devel build installed via MultiROM but it's not really ready for primetime yet13:20
shiggitayrsalveti,13:20
shiggitayI have no problems with backing up my Android install (on Lollipop now) and reinstalling with UT as the only OS to help test :)13:21
shiggitaynot now though as I need to get to bed. I work at 3pm US Eastern13:23
rsalvetishiggitay: will check later this week, last time I tried it on my n5 was a few weeks ago13:23
rsalvetimostly focused on finishing rtm lately13:23
shiggitayrtm for what?13:23
shiggitayN7/10?13:23
bzoltan_mvo: So it seems that your MR should target the https://code.launchpad.net/~oxide-developers/oxide/packaging.vivid13:24
bzoltan_mvo:  and not the  lp:oxide13:24
shiggitayrsalveti,13:25
rsalvetishiggitay: rtm in general, for the devices we support, but as that is mostly done we're starting to get vivid into shape again13:29
rsalvetiso will give that another try with n5 this week13:30
shiggitayokay cool13:30
shiggitaythanks.13:30
* shiggitay goes to bed13:30
rsalvetihave a good night!13:30
shiggitayheh really a nap but thanks :)13:31
* shiggitay disappears13:31
rickspencer3does anyone know if the contacts.db has changed location?13:32
rickspencer3I noticed that the last few contacts that I saved are in /home/phablet/.local/share/evolution/addressbook/rick.spencer@canonical.com instead of /home/phablet/.local/share/evolution/addressbook/system13:33
weeman1337Hello there, I've a scope dev question! Anyone there who can help?13:42
rickspencer3weeman1337, you might try #ubuntu-app-devel13:52
weeman1337rickspencer3, I'll try, thanks!13:53
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bzoltanchrisccoulson: ping14:23
cwaynejanimo: so i finally got my phone to power on again, still cant get cm i built booted though :/14:29
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jgdxIs there something wrong with #45? (I've been away for a week, so I'm not quite up to speed).15:02
jgdxI'm getting frequent crashes from mediahub, lightdm and the compositor.15:03
kenvandinemardy, trust session question15:04
kenvandinemardy, how do you get the windowId from the requesting app?  is upstart involved at all?15:04
mardykenvandine: the windowId is the PID15:05
kenvandineoh15:05
kenvandineok15:05
kenvandinecool15:05
mardykenvandine: there are two ways: either the client library calls getpid() and passes that info, or the service-side can ask DBus for it15:06
kenvandinegot it15:06
kenvandinethanks15:06
kenvandineso i would actually create the session after the destination app starts right?15:06
kenvandinefor content-hub15:07
kenvandineso essentially after it starts, i would grab the pid and create the session?15:07
kenvandinei can't start the app as part of a session?15:07
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rickspencer3bfiller,  I copied my old contacts.db and photos/ into a newly wiped phone15:15
rickspencer3the stuff from system/ worked15:15
mardykenvandine: ah, sorry, I thought you were talking about the starting app15:15
rickspencer3but for some reason I had recent contacts.db and photos/  saved in <myemailaddress>.com/15:15
rickspencer3so, the contacts saved there aren't showing up in my contacts app15:16
rickspencer3thoughts?15:16
mardykenvandine: no, then it works differently: when you create the trusted session, you can create fd's15:16
kenvandineso i want to create the session in the service15:16
kenvandinewhich would connect the app requesting the transfer and the app it starts15:16
mardykenvandine: then, if you start a process with the MIR_SOCKET environment variable set to that fd, the new application will be started within the session15:16
kenvandinecool!15:17
kenvandineso your code doesn't do that :)15:17
mardykenvandine: it does :-)15:17
kenvandineoh...15:17
mardykenvandine: see requestSocket() in mir-helper.cpp, and see how the result is used15:17
mardykenvandine: in ui-proxy.cpp15:17
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bfillerrickspencer3: in a meeting, will ping you when done15:20
rickspencer3thanks bfiller15:20
kenvandinemardy, does MIR_SOCKET get wiped by upstart?  maybe i need an untrusted helper to start the dest15:21
mardykenvandine: yes, I think you need an untrusted helper15:24
mardykenvandine: in this branch I'm using it: https://code.launchpad.net/~mardy/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts/click-plugins15:24
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zbenjaminogra_: ping, are there any news about gdbserver on the image? Seems it did not get in yet15:40
ogra_hmm, i thought it was added to the seeds at some point15:40
zbenjaminogra_: or should a developer make his rootfs writeable and install it manually?15:40
zbenjaminogra_: yeah i think we even created a bug for that15:41
zbenjaminbut i can not find it anymore15:41
Kris_Hello?15:42
Kris_is anyone there?15:43
Kris_ls -a15:44
popeythere are 280 odd people here.15:44
Kris_oh.....15:44
Kris_so do any of you 280 people know how to install Ubuntu touch on a kindle fire?15:45
popey!devices | Kris_15:45
ubot5Kris_: You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices15:45
popeyis it in that list?15:45
Kris_in the working ports15:46
Kris_and what if i want to just install ubuntu15:47
Kris_with unity 715:47
Kris_or 815:48
Kris_?15:48
ogra_it will most likely not run unless you write your own free accelerated graphics driver15:48
Kris_how would i do that?15:48
dobeyis kindle fire a tegra machine too?15:49
Kris_no15:49
bfillerrickspencer3: stuff showing up under .local/share/evolution/addressbook/<emailaddress> would have been stuff you synced with google15:53
rickspencer3bfiller, weird, i never synced with google intentionally15:53
rickspencer3bfiller, I'll just nuke that stuff and copy the contacts into system/15:53
bfillerrickspencer3: is it a gmail address or canonical address?15:54
rickspencer3bfiller, it's canonical15:54
bfillerrickspencer3: you sure you never created a google online account using your canonical address?15:54
rickspencer3bfiller, I am sure that I did15:54
rickspencer3to get gmail notifications15:54
rickspencer3since I use gmail for my canonical address15:55
bfillerrickspencer3: ok, that's probably what the dir was for. if you setup that online account again you should be back to the same state15:55
rickspencer3bfiller, ok, will do15:55
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mvobzoltan: aha, thanks, I check it out16:22
bzoltanmvo:  cool16:30
rvrdpm: I thought that X-Ubuntu-Gettext-Domain was deprecated, but renato tells me it's just for click packages. Can you confirm?17:15
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zohebhello17:43
zohebi want to install ubuntu touch on my device17:43
zohebbut i dont know if it is listed on supported device17:43
zohebits an indian brand17:44
bubbasaureszoheb, The links above list covered devices, easy stuff to find in general.17:45
zohebyup17:46
zohebmine is not listed :(17:46
bubbasaureszoheb, Are you aware that this is a development model, it is not really a daily use setup, or only phone use.17:46
zohebyes17:47
zohebmy phone is just lying around17:47
zohebits hard heys are not working properly17:48
bubbasauresCool just making sure, bets of luck, all you could do is try to install if you know how to reload the stock image.17:48
zohebits 1 gb ram and dual core device17:48
zohebany ways thanks :)17:51
dpmrvr, X-Ubuntu-Gettext-Domain needs to be removed from the .desktop file if it's a click app, IIRC.18:11
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rvrdpm: It's not a click app18:20
dpmrvr, which app is it?18:20
rvrdpm: Mediaplayer18:20
dpmrvr, then it should specify X-Ubuntu-Gettext-Domain18:22
rvrdpm: They added support for .desktop localization. And I thought that once localized, X-Ubuntu-Gettext-Domain should be removed.18:22
dpmrvr, let me forward you the e-mail I sent to vrruiz when he asked me the same question18:24
rvrdpm: I'm vrruiz :)18:24
dpmhahah18:24
dpmthe man with multiple nicks :)18:24
dpmthen you should have some mail in your inbox :)18:24
rvrYeah, reading it, thanks :)18:25
dpmrvr, if you've got a .deb for the app, I can have a look at it to be certain18:25
rvrdpm: Yeah, it's available here https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu-rtm/landing-00518:26
* dpm looks18:26
rvrdpm: I tested it and seems fine. Just ships the flag, and I thought I was being deprecated.18:27
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rvrin all cases, deb and click18:27
rvrThe silo needs a langpack update, though. I created the .mo file from the project source.18:28
rvrdpm: What I don't understand is why the generated .desktop file don't have the translations. The one generated from sources, have them... Maybe differences between vivid and rtm.18:30
dpmrvr, yeah, that puzzles me a bit. I see that the .desktop file in the .deb doesn't have inline translations18:31
dpmrvr, so as the package is right now, it definitely needs X-Ubuntu-Gettext-Domain specified - and the translation included in the mediaplayer-app .mo file in the language packs18:32
iwan2dualboothello. I am wanting to dual boot my pendo pad 7 with ubuntu. Can anyone tell me if this has/or can be done? Any help will be most appreciated.18:45
popeydoesn't look like anyone has ported to that device iwan2dualboot18:49
iwan2dualboothi popeye. thanks for your reply. Does that mean I shouldnt follow the instructions on the following website https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install?18:51
iwan2dualboothi popey. thanks for your reply. Does that mean I shouldnt follow the instructions on the following website https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install?18:52
popeyiwan2dualboot: you can18:53
ogra_iwan2dualboot, these instructions are only for supported devices ... ubuntu uses the drivers from the android source tree, you would have to port that part to make the generic ubuntu bits work on your device18:53
popeythe very first line says "arget devices under active development are here."18:53
popeyso follow that link18:53
popeyif yours isn't listed then you can't do it18:53
ogra_well, you can port ... but thats ratther an advanced task and requires a bit of experience with both, android and ubuntu18:54
iwan2dualbootaarrr. damn. Thanks popey and ogra_. Well i guess thats the end of that. No ubuntu for my pad/tablet. : (18:56
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Hakushakuhey, can somebody help me with instalation ubuntu touch19:39
Hakushaku?19:39
anpok_your chances on getting answers are higher if you have more specific questions..19:42
Hakushakuim stuck trying to unlock bootloader19:42
Hakushakudevice is overmav steelcore 10+ i have only recovery when i press vol - and power19:43
Hakushakuso on the first place i check the devices19:45
Hakushakuadb devices19:45
Hakushakuand i get 0123456789ABCDEF device19:46
Hakushakureboot bootlader restar device and now i have 0123456789ABCDEF OFFLINE19:47
dobeyvol + power is for the google nexus devices19:47
dobeyif you're in bootloader you need to use fastboot to unlock it, not adb19:47
Hakushakuwhen i try ~sudo fastboot oem unlock19:50
Hakushakui stuck on waiting for answer from device19:50
davmor2Hakushaku: you don't need the ~ infront19:51
dobeyare you trying to port ubuntu to your device?19:51
dobeyi don't see it listed on !devices19:51
dobeyerr19:52
dobey!devices19:52
ubot5You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices19:52
Hakushakui know this is not suported device but i want to try unlock bootloader and i fail19:54
dobeyyes, but even if you manage to unlock the bootloader, you won't be able to install ubuntu on it, as there is no port for it yet19:55
dobeyif fastboot oem-unlock doesn't work, i'm not sure what to tell you though. :-/19:55
geniiHakushaku: You need to look up a rooting guide specific to your device.19:57
Hakushakuit can be some kind missing driver? Other time i try .... yep i know but i stuck ont this allready 3 days19:58
dobeyhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=235336020:07
dobeyHakushaku: ^^ read that20:08
dobeyappears you have to flash a custom rom from within the recovery mode, to root it20:09
dobeyi'd be wary of doing that, though, if you want the device to remain usable :)20:09
Hakushakudebey i was looking for this file but all filles are die for 10+20:13
Hakushaku<dobey> you still here?20:32
Hakushakudobey: you still here?20:32
dobeywell, we can't help you any further there then20:35
dobeyyou need to find the correct custom rom for your device if you want to root it, i think20:36
dobeyyour best bet is the xda developers forums20:36
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