[01:58] <shiggitay> herro
[02:00] <shiggitay> rsalveti, r u here
[04:58] <josePHPagoda> hello everyone!  I'm wondering if there is a way to configure ubuntu to send mouse click events rather than touch screen events?
[05:08] <RAOF> josePHPagoda: It does (on the desktop). On the phone, no.
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> RAOF: is there a trick to get it working on older games for desktop?
[05:11] <RAOF> On the desktop it should just work; on the phone, urgh.
[05:11] <RAOF> Pointer emulation is hard.
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> RAOF: it doesnt recognize touch in his older games
[05:12] <RAOF> On the desktop? Odd.
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> he's on 14.04 desktop yes
[05:12] <RAOF> Note: by “on the desktop” I mean, ‘In X’.
[05:12] <RAOF> Hm.
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> yes, he has lenovo touch laptop
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> josePHPagoda: you still here mate?
[05:15] <RAOF> Pointer emulation is working here on my hilariously unconfigured touchscreen.
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> lol
[05:15] <RAOF> (Hilariously unconfigured because the input is mapped to the whole of my multi-monitor desktop, not just the actual touch display)
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> nice
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> what a world would be without ubuntu :p
[05:17] <RAOF> In our defence, Windows 8 maps it to the _wrong_ monitor, which is equally hilarious.
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> josePHPagoda: waky waky, tell RAOF your issue
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> win8 is such a joke, in every way
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> i helped more then 30 people with installing ubuntu on eufi machines already
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> uefi
[05:53] <josePHPagoda> hi raof
[05:53] <josePHPagoda> sry, was on the phone
[05:53] <josePHPagoda> ubuntu won't run on my machine with uefi :(
[05:53] <josePHPagoda> i have to use the good old bios
[05:53] <josePHPagoda> lotuspsychje: it's a touch desktop
[05:53] <josePHPagoda> but yeah, sdl will recognize that the mouse moved
[05:54] <josePHPagoda> but it doesn't get a mouse click event
[05:54] <josePHPagoda> which is fine, that's how it should work
[05:54] <josePHPagoda> but I was hoping there was a way to configure it so that mouse click events are sent instead
[05:54] <josePHPagoda> RAOF: ^
[05:54] <RAOF> Ah.
[05:55] <RAOF> Yeah, the touchscreen driver doesn't do tap-to-click.
[05:56] <josePHPagoda> i realize that :)
[05:56] <josePHPagoda> so no way to change it?
[05:56] <RAOF> It doesn't have code to do tap-to-click.
[05:57] <RAOF> There's obviously a way to change that - copy the tap-to-click state machine from xf86-input-synaptics - but there's no configuration option you can cheaply twiddle.
[06:44] <Psykus> tried installing ubuntu touch devel channel to nexus 7 2013, ran the ubuntu-device-flash tool and it downloaded/installed a few things then my device rebooted to the google logo and is just sitting there. any ideas?
[08:11] <dholbach> good morning
[08:11] <mihir> dholbach: morning :)
[08:12] <dholbach> hey mihir
[08:12] <mihir> hey what's up ?
[08:14] <dholbach> life's good - just had a nice weekend - how about you?
[08:34] <shiggitay> hmm I guess Mr rsalveti isn't around :(
[08:36] <Psykus> so ubuntu touch doesn't work with bluetooth keyboards?
[08:45] <popey> Psykus: it should, but currently it's limited to only audio device pairing.  I believe that will be changed soon enough
[08:46] <Psykus> ahh okay. thanks. also looks like they never released a ubuntu desktop build for the 2013 nexus 7, was curious to check that out
[08:47] <popey> Psykus: yeah, we never did
[08:48] <Psykus> hope to see some sort of desktop option eventually, I kind of like how you can hop between the two in windows 8
[09:11] <shiggitay> Help me spread this around: http://www.gofundme.com/shiggity_EL2015
[09:25] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Monday, and happy Day With(out) Art Day! :-D
[09:26] <shiggitay> heh
[09:26] <shiggitay> Happy December too
[09:37] <popey> dbarth_: I'm getting apparmor denials in twtter webapp...
[09:37] <popey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9327984/
[09:37] <popey> dbarth_: ^
[09:38] <dbarth_> popey: hi
[09:38] <dbarth_> popey: the app still works?
[09:38] <popey> yes
[09:39] <dbarth_> popey: the cpu one is harmless, the qml cache is new
[09:40] <dbarth_> popey: thanks i'll report the bug to jamie
[09:40] <popey> kk
[09:43] <dbarth_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu/+bug/1397912
[13:19] <rsalveti> shiggitay: hey, what's up?
[13:20] <shiggitay> hey any progress on UT for the N5? I have a devel build installed via MultiROM but it's not really ready for primetime yet
[13:20] <shiggitay> rsalveti,
[13:21] <shiggitay> I have no problems with backing up my Android install (on Lollipop now) and reinstalling with UT as the only OS to help test :)
[13:23] <shiggitay> not now though as I need to get to bed. I work at 3pm US Eastern
[13:23] <rsalveti> shiggitay: will check later this week, last time I tried it on my n5 was a few weeks ago
[13:23] <rsalveti> mostly focused on finishing rtm lately
[13:23] <shiggitay> rtm for what?
[13:23] <shiggitay> N7/10?
[13:24] <bzoltan_> mvo: So it seems that your MR should target the https://code.launchpad.net/~oxide-developers/oxide/packaging.vivid
[13:24] <bzoltan_> mvo:  and not the  lp:oxide
[13:25] <shiggitay> rsalveti,
[13:29] <rsalveti> shiggitay: rtm in general, for the devices we support, but as that is mostly done we're starting to get vivid into shape again
[13:30] <rsalveti> so will give that another try with n5 this week
[13:30] <shiggitay> okay cool
[13:30] <shiggitay> thanks.
[13:30]  * shiggitay goes to bed
[13:30] <rsalveti> have a good night!
[13:31] <shiggitay> heh really a nap but thanks :)
[13:31]  * shiggitay disappears
[13:32] <rickspencer3> does anyone know if the contacts.db has changed location?
[13:33] <rickspencer3> I noticed that the last few contacts that I saved are in /home/phablet/.local/share/evolution/addressbook/rick.spencer@canonical.com instead of /home/phablet/.local/share/evolution/addressbook/system
[13:42] <weeman1337> Hello there, I've a scope dev question! Anyone there who can help?
[13:52] <rickspencer3> weeman1337, you might try #ubuntu-app-devel
[13:53] <weeman1337> rickspencer3, I'll try, thanks!
[14:23] <bzoltan> chrisccoulson: ping
[14:29] <cwayne> janimo: so i finally got my phone to power on again, still cant get cm i built booted though :/
[15:02] <jgdx> Is there something wrong with #45? (I've been away for a week, so I'm not quite up to speed).
[15:03] <jgdx> I'm getting frequent crashes from mediahub, lightdm and the compositor.
[15:04] <kenvandine> mardy, trust session question
[15:04] <kenvandine> mardy, how do you get the windowId from the requesting app?  is upstart involved at all?
[15:05] <mardy> kenvandine: the windowId is the PID
[15:05] <kenvandine> oh
[15:05] <kenvandine> ok
[15:05] <kenvandine> cool
[15:06] <mardy> kenvandine: there are two ways: either the client library calls getpid() and passes that info, or the service-side can ask DBus for it
[15:06] <kenvandine> got it
[15:06] <kenvandine> thanks
[15:06] <kenvandine> so i would actually create the session after the destination app starts right?
[15:07] <kenvandine> for content-hub
[15:07] <kenvandine> so essentially after it starts, i would grab the pid and create the session?
[15:07] <kenvandine> i can't start the app as part of a session?
[15:15] <rickspencer3> bfiller,  I copied my old contacts.db and photos/ into a newly wiped phone
[15:15] <rickspencer3> the stuff from system/ worked
[15:15] <mardy> kenvandine: ah, sorry, I thought you were talking about the starting app
[15:15] <rickspencer3> but for some reason I had recent contacts.db and photos/  saved in <myemailaddress>.com/
[15:16] <rickspencer3> so, the contacts saved there aren't showing up in my contacts app
[15:16] <rickspencer3> thoughts?
[15:16] <mardy> kenvandine: no, then it works differently: when you create the trusted session, you can create fd's
[15:16] <kenvandine> so i want to create the session in the service
[15:16] <kenvandine> which would connect the app requesting the transfer and the app it starts
[15:16] <mardy> kenvandine: then, if you start a process with the MIR_SOCKET environment variable set to that fd, the new application will be started within the session
[15:17] <kenvandine> cool!
[15:17] <kenvandine> so your code doesn't do that :)
[15:17] <mardy> kenvandine: it does :-)
[15:17] <kenvandine> oh...
[15:17] <mardy> kenvandine: see requestSocket() in mir-helper.cpp, and see how the result is used
[15:17] <mardy> kenvandine: in ui-proxy.cpp
[15:20] <bfiller> rickspencer3: in a meeting, will ping you when done
[15:20] <rickspencer3> thanks bfiller
[15:21] <kenvandine> mardy, does MIR_SOCKET get wiped by upstart?  maybe i need an untrusted helper to start the dest
[15:24] <mardy> kenvandine: yes, I think you need an untrusted helper
[15:24] <mardy> kenvandine: in this branch I'm using it: https://code.launchpad.net/~mardy/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts/click-plugins
[15:40] <zbenjamin> ogra_: ping, are there any news about gdbserver on the image? Seems it did not get in yet
[15:40] <ogra_> hmm, i thought it was added to the seeds at some point
[15:40] <zbenjamin> ogra_: or should a developer make his rootfs writeable and install it manually?
[15:41] <zbenjamin> ogra_: yeah i think we even created a bug for that
[15:41] <zbenjamin> but i can not find it anymore
[15:42] <Kris_> Hello?
[15:43] <Kris_> is anyone there?
[15:44] <Kris_> ls -a
[15:44] <popey> there are 280 odd people here.
[15:44] <Kris_> oh.....
[15:45] <Kris_> so do any of you 280 people know how to install Ubuntu touch on a kindle fire?
[15:45] <popey> !devices | Kris_
[15:45] <popey> is it in that list?
[15:46] <Kris_> in the working ports
[15:47] <Kris_> and what if i want to just install ubuntu
[15:47] <Kris_> with unity 7
[15:48] <Kris_> or 8
[15:48] <Kris_> ?
[15:48] <ogra_> it will most likely not run unless you write your own free accelerated graphics driver
[15:48] <Kris_> how would i do that?
[15:49] <dobey> is kindle fire a tegra machine too?
[15:49] <Kris_> no
[15:53] <bfiller> rickspencer3: stuff showing up under .local/share/evolution/addressbook/<emailaddress> would have been stuff you synced with google
[15:53] <rickspencer3> bfiller, weird, i never synced with google intentionally
[15:53] <rickspencer3> bfiller, I'll just nuke that stuff and copy the contacts into system/
[15:54] <bfiller> rickspencer3: is it a gmail address or canonical address?
[15:54] <rickspencer3> bfiller, it's canonical
[15:54] <bfiller> rickspencer3: you sure you never created a google online account using your canonical address?
[15:54] <rickspencer3> bfiller, I am sure that I did
[15:54] <rickspencer3> to get gmail notifications
[15:55] <rickspencer3> since I use gmail for my canonical address
[15:55] <bfiller> rickspencer3: ok, that's probably what the dir was for. if you setup that online account again you should be back to the same state
[15:55] <rickspencer3> bfiller, ok, will do
[16:22] <mvo> bzoltan: aha, thanks, I check it out
[16:30] <bzoltan> mvo:  cool
[17:15] <rvr> dpm: I thought that X-Ubuntu-Gettext-Domain was deprecated, but renato tells me it's just for click packages. Can you confirm?
[17:43] <zoheb> hello
[17:43] <zoheb> i want to install ubuntu touch on my device
[17:43] <zoheb> but i dont know if it is listed on supported device
[17:44] <zoheb> its an indian brand
[17:45] <bubbasaures> zoheb, The links above list covered devices, easy stuff to find in general.
[17:46] <zoheb> yup
[17:46] <zoheb> mine is not listed :(
[17:46] <bubbasaures> zoheb, Are you aware that this is a development model, it is not really a daily use setup, or only phone use.
[17:47] <zoheb> yes
[17:47] <zoheb> my phone is just lying around
[17:48] <zoheb> its hard heys are not working properly
[17:48] <bubbasaures> Cool just making sure, bets of luck, all you could do is try to install if you know how to reload the stock image.
[17:48] <zoheb> its 1 gb ram and dual core device
[17:51] <zoheb> any ways thanks :)
[18:11] <dpm> rvr, X-Ubuntu-Gettext-Domain needs to be removed from the .desktop file if it's a click app, IIRC.
[18:20] <rvr> dpm: It's not a click app
[18:20] <dpm> rvr, which app is it?
[18:20] <rvr> dpm: Mediaplayer
[18:22] <dpm> rvr, then it should specify X-Ubuntu-Gettext-Domain
[18:22] <rvr> dpm: They added support for .desktop localization. And I thought that once localized, X-Ubuntu-Gettext-Domain should be removed.
[18:24] <dpm> rvr, let me forward you the e-mail I sent to vrruiz when he asked me the same question
[18:24] <rvr> dpm: I'm vrruiz :)
[18:24] <dpm> hahah
[18:24] <dpm> the man with multiple nicks :)
[18:24] <dpm> then you should have some mail in your inbox :)
[18:25] <rvr> Yeah, reading it, thanks :)
[18:25] <dpm> rvr, if you've got a .deb for the app, I can have a look at it to be certain
[18:26] <rvr> dpm: Yeah, it's available here https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu-rtm/landing-005
[18:26]  * dpm looks
[18:27] <rvr> dpm: I tested it and seems fine. Just ships the flag, and I thought I was being deprecated.
[18:27] <rvr> in all cases, deb and click
[18:28] <rvr> The silo needs a langpack update, though. I created the .mo file from the project source.
[18:30] <rvr> dpm: What I don't understand is why the generated .desktop file don't have the translations. The one generated from sources, have them... Maybe differences between vivid and rtm.
[18:31] <dpm> rvr, yeah, that puzzles me a bit. I see that the .desktop file in the .deb doesn't have inline translations
[18:32] <dpm> rvr, so as the package is right now, it definitely needs X-Ubuntu-Gettext-Domain specified - and the translation included in the mediaplayer-app .mo file in the language packs
[18:45] <iwan2dualboot> hello. I am wanting to dual boot my pendo pad 7 with ubuntu. Can anyone tell me if this has/or can be done? Any help will be most appreciated.
[18:49] <popey> doesn't look like anyone has ported to that device iwan2dualboot
[18:51] <iwan2dualboot> hi popeye. thanks for your reply. Does that mean I shouldnt follow the instructions on the following website https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install?
[18:52] <iwan2dualboot> hi popey. thanks for your reply. Does that mean I shouldnt follow the instructions on the following website https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install?
[18:53] <popey> iwan2dualboot: you can
[18:53] <ogra_> iwan2dualboot, these instructions are only for supported devices ... ubuntu uses the drivers from the android source tree, you would have to port that part to make the generic ubuntu bits work on your device
[18:53] <popey> the very first line says "arget devices under active development are here."
[18:53] <popey> so follow that link
[18:53] <popey> if yours isn't listed then you can't do it
[18:54] <ogra_> well, you can port ... but thats ratther an advanced task and requires a bit of experience with both, android and ubuntu
[18:56] <iwan2dualboot> aarrr. damn. Thanks popey and ogra_. Well i guess thats the end of that. No ubuntu for my pad/tablet. : (
[19:39] <Hakushaku> hey, can somebody help me with instalation ubuntu touch
[19:39] <Hakushaku> ?
[19:42] <anpok_> your chances on getting answers are higher if you have more specific questions..
[19:42] <Hakushaku> im stuck trying to unlock bootloader
[19:43] <Hakushaku> device is overmav steelcore 10+ i have only recovery when i press vol - and power
[19:45] <Hakushaku> so on the first place i check the devices
[19:45] <Hakushaku> adb devices
[19:46] <Hakushaku> and i get 0123456789ABCDEF device
[19:47] <Hakushaku> reboot bootlader restar device and now i have 0123456789ABCDEF OFFLINE
[19:47] <dobey> vol + power is for the google nexus devices
[19:47] <dobey> if you're in bootloader you need to use fastboot to unlock it, not adb
[19:50] <Hakushaku> when i try ~sudo fastboot oem unlock
[19:50] <Hakushaku> i stuck on waiting for answer from device
[19:51] <davmor2> Hakushaku: you don't need the ~ infront
[19:51] <dobey> are you trying to port ubuntu to your device?
[19:51] <dobey> i don't see it listed on !devices
[19:52] <dobey> err
[19:52] <dobey> !devices
[19:54] <Hakushaku> i know this is not suported device but i want to try unlock bootloader and i fail
[19:55] <dobey> yes, but even if you manage to unlock the bootloader, you won't be able to install ubuntu on it, as there is no port for it yet
[19:55] <dobey> if fastboot oem-unlock doesn't work, i'm not sure what to tell you though. :-/
[19:57] <genii> Hakushaku: You need to look up a rooting guide specific to your device.
[19:58] <Hakushaku> it can be some kind missing driver? Other time i try .... yep i know but i stuck ont this allready 3 days
[20:07] <dobey> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2353360
[20:08] <dobey> Hakushaku: ^^ read that
[20:09] <dobey> appears you have to flash a custom rom from within the recovery mode, to root it
[20:09] <dobey> i'd be wary of doing that, though, if you want the device to remain usable :)
[20:13] <Hakushaku> debey i was looking for this file but all filles are die for 10+
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[20:32] <Hakushaku> dobey: you still here?
[20:35] <dobey> well, we can't help you any further there then
[20:36] <dobey> you need to find the correct custom rom for your device if you want to root it, i think
[20:36] <dobey> your best bet is the xda developers forums