[02:16] https://plus.google.com/109588734381736741502/posts/1MY35T1jQj5 [02:16] ^^ This is kind of awesome. === sharp1 is now known as akelling [15:44] Good morning [15:53] morning [16:19] morning [16:26] morning [16:31] morning [16:33] well, it was, until the RAID in the colo'd box I share failed [16:34] read-only mode right now, which sucks, in-progress of backups and such [16:34] ouch [16:36] cloud ftw :p [16:37] yes yes [16:37] jrwren++ [16:37] will be migrating email somewhere else Real Soon Now [16:37] greg-g: I'm on an old co-loc email host which we keep limping along. Lemme know what you do with that. [16:40] will do [16:40] summary: there are no good options [16:41] greg-g: heard good things about fastmail [16:41] greg-g: it's been on my todo list to investigate [16:41] * greg-g nods [17:11] a DO vps or similar might be slighly better. *shrug* [17:24] jrwren: yeah, that was my first thought, but then I have to worry about failover, too [17:25] we don't have a failover solution now. [17:25] touche (neither do I, obviously) [17:25] at least not any more than a lower priority MX record [17:26] for me and the 5 people who use it, I think we are OK with occasional downtime [17:26] we had some just last week when my buddy finally did precise->trusty [17:26] yeah, same here, only things that matter are my parents emailing and amazon telling me something shipped :) [17:26] ha! [18:08] Let Google handle it [18:09] brousch_-- [18:10] so easy [18:10] easy != right/good/best :) [18:10] (can, but not inherent) [19:00] Also: New Cloudkicker this morning [19:00] *squee* [19:06] http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0051WAM64/ref=gb1h_tit_c-2_7042_c1f8688f?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=0KQGW4S3R82D8V8PS11A&pf_rd_i=5550342011&pf_rd_p=1990147042 [19:06] http://tinyurl.com/kqdtlwp shortlink [19:12] All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. <-- google apps [19:14] jrwren++ [19:14] jrwren: greg-g assumption you can tell evil from good? [19:15] rick_h_: yep [19:15] just to play a little devil's advocate :) [19:15] rick_h_: that is a deep question. The simple answer is Yes. [19:15] rick_h_: which makes you evil :P [19:15] woot! can I get a cool cape now? [19:16] rick_h_: of course, and moustache [19:16] I feel one must assume that they can tell. The requirement is always to be re-evaluating previous decisions. [19:16] jrwren: cool, and do we make allowances for lessor of two evils? [19:17] or are we of the more pure, no evil allowed variety? [19:17] we certainly do, but we probably shouldn't. [19:17] ok, just want to make sure we're on the same page :) [19:21] mrgoodcat: All you need from that link is http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0051WAM64 [19:23] Now that we've figured out how to tell good from evil can someone tell me where I parked? [19:24] cmaloney: there's an app* for that. [19:24] cmaloney: google now can but you've gone evil [19:24] * that tracks your position, what other apps are installed on your phone, who you text most often and about what, how many times you cough a day, .... [19:25] :) [19:26] Can it tell if I wipe with my phone hand or not? [19:26] asking for a friend [19:27] cmaloney: let's just say: it's not on the feature list. [19:27] Aw nuts... I mean I think my friend will be disappointed. [20:09] Hm, lesson in evil from the Apple user [20:10] brousch_: Don't make rick_h_ embark on a special road-trip to GR [20:11] * greg-g is typing from his Debian laptop :P [20:14] Debian or Devuon? [20:16] apple isnt evil. of course a lesson from apple user [20:20] and stock owner :) [20:20] I'm sure I'm a stock owner of many evil places via my 401k [20:21] yeah, but jrwren bought it explicitly :) [20:22] I do wonder if the *BSD's are going to get more users from systemd backlash [20:22] akelling: possibly, but I;d put my money on the non-systemd linux dostros first [20:23] eg: Dubian or Devun or whatever the fork is called [20:23] I also own Phillip Morris, another not evil company. [20:24] i wonder if the light ubuntu derivatives will go systemd-less. [20:29] cmaloney: its an interesting time.