[02:16] <cmaloney> https://plus.google.com/109588734381736741502/posts/1MY35T1jQj5
[02:16] <cmaloney> ^^ This is kind of awesome.
[15:44] <cmaloney> Good morning
[15:53] <rick_h_> morning
[16:19] <mrgoodcat> morning
[16:26] <cmaloney> morning
[16:31] <greg-g> morning
[16:33] <greg-g> well, it was, until the RAID in the colo'd box I share failed
[16:34] <greg-g> read-only mode right now, which sucks, in-progress of backups and such
[16:34] <rick_h_> ouch
[16:36] <jrwren> cloud ftw :p
[16:37] <greg-g> yes yes
[16:37] <brousch_> jrwren++
[16:37] <greg-g> will be migrating email somewhere else Real Soon Now
[16:37] <jrwren> greg-g: I'm on an old co-loc email host which we keep limping along. Lemme know what you do with that.
[16:40] <greg-g> will do
[16:40] <greg-g> summary: there are no good options
[16:41] <rick_h_> greg-g: heard good things about fastmail
[16:41] <rick_h_> greg-g: it's been on my todo list to investigate
[16:41]  * greg-g nods
[17:11] <jrwren> a DO vps or similar might be slighly better. *shrug*
[17:24] <greg-g> jrwren: yeah, that was my first thought, but then I have to worry about failover, too
[17:25] <jrwren> we don't have a failover solution now.
[17:25] <greg-g> touche (neither do I, obviously)
[17:25] <jrwren> at least not any more than a lower priority MX record
[17:26] <jrwren> for me and the 5 people who use it, I think we are OK with occasional downtime
[17:26] <jrwren> we had some just last week when my buddy finally did precise->trusty
[17:26] <greg-g> yeah, same here, only things that matter are my parents emailing and amazon telling me something shipped :)
[17:26] <jrwren> ha!
[18:08] <brousch_> Let Google handle it
[18:09] <greg-g> brousch_--
[18:10] <brousch_> so easy
[18:10] <greg-g> easy != right/good/best :)
[18:10] <greg-g> (can, but not inherent)
[19:00] <cmaloney> Also: New Cloudkicker this morning
[19:00] <cmaloney> *squee*
[19:06] <mrgoodcat> http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0051WAM64/ref=gb1h_tit_c-2_7042_c1f8688f?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=0KQGW4S3R82D8V8PS11A&pf_rd_i=5550342011&pf_rd_p=1990147042
[19:06] <mrgoodcat> http://tinyurl.com/kqdtlwp shortlink
[19:12] <jrwren> All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.   <-- google apps
[19:14] <greg-g> jrwren++
[19:14] <rick_h_> jrwren: greg-g assumption you can tell evil from good?
[19:15] <greg-g> rick_h_: yep
[19:15] <rick_h_> just to play a little devil's advocate :)
[19:15] <jrwren> rick_h_: that is a deep question. The simple answer is Yes.
[19:15] <greg-g> rick_h_: which makes you evil :P
[19:15] <rick_h_> woot! can I get a cool cape now?
[19:16] <greg-g> rick_h_: of course, and moustache
[19:16] <jrwren> I feel one must assume that they can tell. The requirement is always to be re-evaluating previous decisions.
[19:16] <rick_h_> jrwren: cool, and do we make allowances for lessor of two evils?
[19:17] <rick_h_> or are we of the more pure, no evil allowed variety?
[19:17] <jrwren> we certainly do, but we probably shouldn't.
[19:17] <rick_h_> ok, just want to make sure we're on the same page :)
[19:21] <cmaloney> mrgoodcat: All you need from that link is http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0051WAM64
[19:23] <cmaloney> Now that we've figured out how to tell good from evil can someone tell me where I parked?
[19:24] <greg-g> cmaloney: there's an app* for that.
[19:24] <rick_h_> cmaloney: google now can but you've gone evil
[19:24] <greg-g> * that tracks your position, what other apps are installed on your phone, who you text most often and about what, how many times you cough a day, ....
[19:25] <greg-g> :)
[19:26] <cmaloney> Can it tell if I wipe with my phone hand or not?
[19:26] <cmaloney> asking for a friend
[19:27] <greg-g> cmaloney: let's just say: it's not on the feature list.
[19:27] <cmaloney> Aw nuts... I mean I think my friend will be disappointed.
[20:09] <brousch_> Hm, lesson in evil from the Apple user
[20:10] <cmaloney> brousch_: Don't make rick_h_ embark on a special road-trip to GR
[20:11]  * greg-g is typing from his Debian laptop :P
[20:14] <brousch_> Debian or Devuon?
[20:16] <jrwren> apple isnt evil. of course a lesson from apple user
[20:20] <greg-g> and stock owner :)
[20:20] <brousch_> I'm sure I'm a stock owner of many evil places via my 401k
[20:21] <greg-g> yeah, but jrwren bought it explicitly :)
[20:22] <akelling> I do wonder if the *BSD's are going to get more users from systemd backlash
[20:22] <cmaloney> akelling: possibly, but I;d put my money on the non-systemd linux dostros first
[20:23] <cmaloney> eg: Dubian or Devun or whatever the fork is called
[20:23] <jrwren> I also own Phillip Morris, another not evil company.
[20:24] <jrwren> i wonder if the light ubuntu derivatives will go systemd-less.
[20:29] <akelling> cmaloney: its an interesting time.