[00:00] <daftykins> owen1: do you see how the log files differ on line 129 in the second?
[00:01] <daftykins> owen1: i don't really follow your description of the events, but if it's playing up in i3 and not unity, i don't know what to say. i have practically zero experience with desktop use
[00:01] <wpd_> The ROS stuff has been around for a while, and I haven't had any problems with it.  This has just shown up since Installed some development tools from NVIDIA.  But I can't figure out what that installer did to me.
[00:01] <mongoose> Is anyone in here familiar with LilyPond?
[00:02] <daftykins> wpd_: grep each of those leading files for 'arm' (i.e. the .list )
[00:03] <wpd_> daftykins: None of them list arm.
[00:03] <wpd_> That's why I'm so confused :-)
[00:03] <daftykins> wpd_: nice... so this funky script you said you ran... what was it?
[00:03] <Bashing-om> wpd_: A side note, not a good thing to mix release repo's ; " gstreamer-developers-ppa-precise.list " might see if 'gsteamer' offers support for trusty .
[00:03] <wpd_> It was an installer from Nvidia for their embedded arm development board.
[00:04] <Finetundra> so, ubuntu doesn't see a whole Gigabyte of my ram. why?
[00:04] <wpd_> Hence the reason I blame them. :-)
[00:04] <daftykins> check said script to see what it did, then
[00:04] <daftykins> Finetundra: explain.
[00:05] <Finetundra> daftykins, i have 4 1024mb sticks of ram installed. ubuntu is only using 3
[00:05] <k1l> Finetundra: "free -m " in a pastebin please
[00:05] <k1l> Finetundra: and a "uname -a"
[00:05] <daftykins> Finetundra: heh, sure you just don't have 32-bit on ;)
[00:05] <daftykins> *don't just
[00:07] <owen1> daftykins: interesting. saving the log is going to help me troubleshoot this. thanks!
[00:07] <kolossen> hcitool -i dev Invalid device: No such device
[00:07] <daftykins> owen1: ^_^ np
[00:07] <kolossen> what does that mean?
[00:08] <daftykins> kolossen: lol, 'dev' is meant to be replaced with knowing your device name.
[00:08] <kolossen> that my own bluetooth is not working
[00:08] <Finetundra> here is the first: http://pastebin.com/jHDM2pCH       and the second: http://pastebin.com/y97iMZu9
[00:08] <daftykins> kolossen: man hcitool
[00:08] <kolossen> is it supposed to my my odnw?
[00:08] <daftykins> Finetundra: 32-bit kernel, no 4GB RAM for you, i think
[00:08] <owen1> I 'Override software rendering list' and 'Enable WebGL' in chrome://flags but http://get.webgl.org say I don't have WebGL support. I also tried running chrome with --disable-gpu-watchdog but it doesn't help. Firefox runs WebGL just fine. I have the same issue with chromium-browser package (39.0.2171.65 Ubuntu 14.10) and also with chrome (39.0.2171.71). Any ideas?
[00:09] <Finetundra> daftykins, could you explain?
[00:09] <daftykins> Finetundra: you're running a 32-bit kernel. you need to be running 64-bit.
[00:10] <Finetundra> well shit
[00:10] <daftykins> none of the language here thanks
[00:11] <Finetundra> daftykins, well that more or less explains it
[00:11] <VanceX> Finetundra: 32 bit will run a little leaner on your system anyways.
[00:11] <Elimin8er> Whats the best backup program to use to backup to external storage, Full system and home directory ?
[00:12] <k1l> Finetundra: 3.11?
[00:12] <Finetundra> k1l, what?
[00:12] <user1> need help with few things
[00:12] <daftykins> Finetundra: yeah a "cat /etc/issue" would be nice
[00:12] <EiriksHDD> hello, can someone help me, my ubuntu desktop has frozen, but I still have the capability to do some things, can someone give me some sort of kill command to force the thing to reset?
[00:12] <k1l> Finetundra: what ubuntu is that? is that a saucy install?
[00:12] <Finetundra> k1l, yes
[00:12] <daftykins> !saucy
[00:13] <daftykins> Finetundra: you shouldn't be using that.
[00:13] <k1l> Finetundra: that is vulnerable since its end of life. you need to upgrade
[00:13] <user1> on install of xbuntu i had error failed to install applications but to do it manually? what have i missed
[00:13] <viejotren> Hi, I need to copy all the content of an specific Directory from Ubuntu Box to Ubuntu Box, the source Box is in text mode, the amount of data is 2 GB, this process is possible using just cp command or should I use another command?
[00:14] <Finetundra> well, last time i upgraded to 14.04 it broke alot of things
[00:14] <Stmeter_> root@server8:~# mysql -v
[00:14] <Stmeter_> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[00:14] <Stmeter_> Any ideas?
[00:14] <k1l> Finetundra: upgrade are automated tested. so if you dont have lots of 3rd party stuff they will work just fine
[00:15] <Finetundra> k1l, define lots
[00:15] <daftykins> viejotren: well you cant to copy remotely right? you can tar the folder then scp it
[00:15] <daftykins> s/cant/want/
[00:15] <Bashing-om> EiriksHDD: Gracefull shutdown: try: alt+ZSysRg+ r+s+e+i+u+b .
[00:15] <k1l> Finetundra: there is no option to not upgrade
[00:16] <Finetundra> k1l, understood
[00:16] <k1l> Finetundra: either you install a LTS and stay there for 5 years or you have to upgrade all 6 months.
[00:17] <daftykins> Stmeter_: messing about as root isn't wise. is the daemon running? perhaps it isn't
[00:17] <k1l> Finetundra: and if you cant overview what 3rd party stuff you got installed :/
[00:17] <user1> why did i get failed to install applications on xbuntu and try them manually
[00:17] <Finetundra> k1l, what do you mean?
[00:17] <Stmeter_> daftykins: Just trying to debug. I'm aware of the risks of root. Once I run "service mysql start" it stays up and then crashes.
[00:17] <EiriksHDD> what is ZSysRg?
[00:17] <daftykins> Stmeter_: logs time then
[00:18] <daftykins> user1: i wasn't watching over your shoulder during install, you'll need to either reboot and see the message again or ignore it. likely it's just talking about language packs
[00:18] <viejotren> daftykins: I don't have enough free space to tar the entire directory, is there any other way?
[00:18] <Bashing-om> EiriksHDD: Sorry; typo - should be the SysRq key .
[00:18] <EiriksHDD> so like windows key?
[00:18] <daftykins> viejotren: yeah, recursively scp the directory.
[00:18] <kolossen> http://www.nj.com/hunterdon-county-democrat/index.ssf/2010/08/sisters_from_east_amwell_after.html
[00:18] <user1> on install said bout formatting the parition bit and just clicked continue
[00:19] <k1l> Finetundra: if you have that much 3rd party stuff that you dont know how much it is and what it does you should prbably try a clean install on 14.04
[00:19] <kolossen> opops
[00:19] <kolossen> hcitool scan
[00:19] <kolossen> Device is not available: No such device
[00:19] <kolossen> why?
[00:19] <Bashing-om> EiriksHDD: No, many times that key is also the print screen key .
[00:19] <daftykins> viejotren: "scp -r /path/to/folder user@host:/where/i/want/it/"
[00:19] <kolossen> is hcitool saying my bluetooth is not working?
[00:19] <wpd_> Any other suggestions for where to look for the source of these armhf PPA's?
[00:19] <viejotren> daftykins: i'll try it right now, thanks a lot
[00:19] <EiriksHDD> thank you for that bit Bashing-om
[00:20] <Bashing-om> EiriksHDD: Sorry forcausing the confusion. hold the alt and SysRq keys and slowly type rseiub .
[00:21] <Finetundra> k1l, thats not what i was questioning, i was just confused by your statement
[00:21] <kolossen> http://lpaste.net/115402
[00:21] <kolossen> hciconfig ^ is my bluetooth address 0?
[00:21] <daftykins> Finetundra: so to summarise, backup, install 64-bit 14.04 or 12.04.5 and happy times will be had
[00:21] <iggymydog> hi! im running an older version of ubuntu on a dell laptop and i cant get the wifi to work
[00:22] <Finetundra> daftykins, except that my processor is 32bit
[00:22] <iggymydog> can someone help me get my wifi to work?
[00:22] <daftykins> Finetundra: model?
[00:22] <daftykins> iggymydog: older as in...?
[00:22] <iggymydog> help?
[00:22] <Stmeter_> daftykins: May I PM the mysql error?
[00:22] <Finetundra> daftykins, Dell Dimension 4700
[00:22] <daftykins> Stmeter_: no
[00:22] <daftykins> Finetundra: that's not a processor model
[00:23] <iggymydog> daftykins 13. something
[00:23] <daftykins> iggymydog: sorry, EOL releases aren't supported here
[00:23] <daftykins> !eol
[00:23] <daftykins> iggymydog: clean install a supported release then we can assist
[00:23] <iggymydog> daftykins elo
[00:23] <iggymydog> ?
[00:23] <Stmeter_> daftykins: Here is a pastebin to my /var/log/mysql/error.log http://pastebin.com/gbBEVhsZ It continues this error every minute or so.
[00:23] <daftykins> iggymydog: show some damn patience
[00:23] <iggymydog> daftykins dam sorry.....
[00:24] <iggymydog> daftykins its late and ive had alot of coffie
[00:24] <Finetundra> daftykins, sorry, thought you meant my machine. processor is a Intel Pentium 4
[00:24] <daftykins> Stmeter_: i don't know anything about it really, beyond logging in and a few commands :P find a channel
[00:24] <Stmeter_> thanks for trying
[00:24] <daftykins> Finetundra: hmm you could try popping on a PAE kernel then. but i won't help you any further with an EOL release, sorry. you're not safe.
[00:25] <iggymydog> @daftykins my ubuntu isnt a touch screan?
[00:25] <daftykins> iggymydog: i'm going to walk away from my computer now, if you want to upgrade to a supported release in the meantime perhaps we can talk further.
[00:26] <iggymydog> daftykins: please explain
[00:26] <iggymydog> daftykins: im willing to do anything to get this dam comoputer to work
[00:26] <Finetundra> daftykins, ok, ok. i'm running the update. what's a PAE kernel and how is it different than what i already have
[00:26] <daftykins> iggymydog: i don't understand how i can be any clearer than "upgrade to a supported release" - only 12.04.5, 14.04 and 14.10 are supported right now.
[00:26] <iggymydog> daftykins: first off how to i find out my version
[00:26] <VanceX> iggymydog: Why then are you running such an old release?
[00:27] <daftykins> iggymydog: you just told me 13.x, did you forget already?
[00:27] <daftykins> !pae
[00:27] <daftykins> Finetundra: ^
[00:27] <bubbasaures> iggymydog, run 'lsb_release -a" for version without the '
[00:27] <daftykins> Finetundra: as i say, can't help you until you upgrade to a supported release.
[00:27] <iggymydog> VanceX: because i just got back from afganastan and i havnt touched the computer scense
[00:27] <Finetundra> daftykins,i'm running the update.
[00:28] <daftykins> Finetundra: 'the update' ?
[00:28] <iggymydog> VanceX: its been a while scense ive delt with linux and ive forgotten most the commands and what not and after 2 hours looking through forums of crap and fixxes ive had enough and came here expecting the problem should be rather simple
[00:28] <Finetundra> daftykins, upgrade. sorry
[00:29] <iggymydog> VanceX: can you try to offer me some sort of help?
[00:29] <k1l> daftykins: after the upgrade is done make sure to have "linux-generic" installed.
[00:29] <bubbasaures> iggymydog, Lets get you to a supported release 14.04 has 5 years support.
[00:29] <k1l> Finetundra:  after the upgrade is done make sure to have "linux-generic" installed.
[00:29] <k1l> daftykins: tabfail :)
[00:29] <Finetundra> k1l, how would i check that?
[00:30] <Bashing-om> iggymydog: It is simple, we need to know that you are on a current release, or get you upgraded . ^^ lsb_release -a will tell .
[00:30] <VanceX> iggymydog: Understood and I empathize yet, to must understand for questions to be answered here... You must be running something more current. You need to upgrade or do a fresh install.
[00:30] <k1l> Finetundra: install it with apt-get install
[00:30] <iggymydog> bubbasaures: thank you!!!!
[00:30] <Finetundra> k1l, gotcha
[00:30] <iggymydog> Bashing-om kk hold on
[00:31] <bubbasaures> iggymydog, Can you tell us what this shows in the terminal  lsb_release -a
[00:31] <iggymydog> 13.04
[00:31] <iggymydog> Bashing-om: im running 13.04
[00:32] <Bashing-om> iggymydog: UnGood ! .. long path to get you current, best bet is to do a clean fresh install of 14.04 .
[00:32] <bprompt> iggymydog:    ....  still the wifi should work
[00:32] <iggymydog> Bashing-om: thats going to take for ever to download....
[00:32] <iggymydog> Bashing-om: there must be a nother way
[00:32] <bprompt> iggymydog:  but can't hurt getting 14.04 lts
[00:33] <bubbasaures> iggymydog, Thanks, theoretically you can go to 13.10 than 14.04, however it takes time, or do a fresh install, what seems best for you? The update does have it's perils back up anything you need as alwyas.
[00:33] <iggymydog> nw tool came up with status dissconnected
[00:33] <Finetundra> iggymydog, even with the torrent download?
[00:33] <bprompt> iggymydog:    are you on dialup?   wondering on the download speed
[00:33] <iggymydog> evin the torrent
[00:33] <iggymydog> yes dial up
[00:33] <bprompt> I see
[00:34] <iggymydog> Bashing-om: i would like to go to 3.10 then 14.what ever lts
[00:34] <Bashing-om> iggymydog: There is another way ( it's linux, there is always other ways), but the band width and time is great ! EOL from 13.04 -> 13.10 -> 14.04
[00:34] <iggymydog> bprompt: slow as hell i think 90 something kps
[00:34] <Bashing-om> !eol | iggymydog
[00:35] <bprompt> iggymydog:    hmm a 56.6 modem gives only about 5-7 kbs   btw
[00:35] <daftykins> iggymydog: best get started :)
[00:35] <iggymydog> Bashing-om: thats why i love linux theres always a nother way
[00:35] <daftykins> 5KB/sec - capital notation is important.
[00:35] <iggymydog> i dont have a 56 k modem
[00:35] <bprompt> iggymydog:    so you're on a dsl one?
[00:36] <iggymydog> oh wait.... nvm i am on dsl lol im steeling my nebors i didnt evin relize
[00:36] <bprompt> hehee
[00:36] <daftykins> there are laws against that in some countries
[00:36] <iggymydog> woops sorry guys
[00:36] <bprompt> iggymydog:     well the 14.04 is about 1gbs.... just do it when the neighbors are asleep =)
[00:36] <iggymydog> my neibor wouldnt care lol
[00:37] <daftykins> if they knew.
[00:37] <iggymydog> i could call him right now and tell him
[00:37] <SchrodingersScat> tell them this delightful story over a cup of tea
[00:37] <daftykins> perhaps whilst you wait for said download
[00:37] <iggymydog> he wouldnt care a bit
[00:37] <iggymydog> we grew up together
[00:38] <bprompt> iggymydog:     on a dsl modem.. about 90kbs you said....  so  that'd be about 4hrs I'd think
[00:38] <daftykins> ok not that i'm loving this life story, but this is a support channel. please tell us all about your neighbour in #ubuntu-offtopic but this place is for assistance only
[00:38] <daftykins> iggymydog: you know what to do, so get to it :)
[00:38] <kolossen> OMG how hard should it be to get bluetooth working. I understand NOTHING after 1 hour of research
[00:39] <kolossen> 1. how do I check that my own bluetooth is actually working properly?
[00:39] <iggymydog> daftykins: welll...cant there be a nother way
[00:39] <daftykins> iggymydog: no. download 14.04. install it.
[00:39] <iggymydog> daftykins: some sort of terminal sourcery or command line black magic
[00:39] <iggymydog> daftykins: ok :(
[00:39] <daftykins> backup first of course
[00:40] <daftykins> if you only have one machine
[00:40] <bprompt> iggymydog:    just make sure you get a say... download client and link, that supports "download resume", in case you need to reconnect and such, so you can just pick up where you left off
[00:40] <iggymydog> ubuntu has forsaken me!
[00:40] <iggymydog> i have u torrent im good
[00:40] <iggymydog> whats the official torrent link? so i dont get a virus?
[00:40] <Bashing-om> iggymydog: There is no "quicker" way . Save your personal files, download the 14.04 .iso, burn and install.\
[00:40] <bprompt> iggymydog:    well. on a 90kbs connection... I'd think it wouldn't take more than 5hrs
[00:41] <bprompt> since is 1gb for the 14.04 lts
[00:41] <iggymydog> link anyone? and thanks for your help everyone (that wasnt sarcasm) geese...it still sounds like sarcasm....
[00:42] <Bashing-om> iggymydog: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads .
[00:42] <iggymydog> <3
[00:56] <kolossen> isnt hcitool dev supposed to display your PC's bluetooth?
[00:58] <nagerst> It is so nice to be running lucid again. Gnome2 really shines. and with xorg1.7 and with kernel 3.11 it really shines.
[00:58] <nagerst> =D
[00:59] <acmeraptor> so who wants a challenge?
[00:59] <daftykins> !ask
[01:00] <Finetundra> acmeraptor, perhaps
[01:00] <daftykins> nagerst: i'm going to guess you're fishing to be told you're unsupported.
[01:00] <daftykins> !eol | nagerst
[01:01] <acmeraptor> well.. let's make sure I'm in the right room for this.. I want to send scans from my printer to a wdtvhub that is essentially a nas device
[01:01] <Finetundra> well, i'm no good for that
[01:01] <acmeraptor> the wd hub uses some linux variant.. this being ubuntu.. probably not the right place
[01:02] <k1l> acmeraptor: ##linux for general linux support
[01:03] <acmeraptor> thanks kll, i'll hop over there and see if something is possible.  i wish hp support was available on irc lol
[01:04] <kolossen> Noone here knows bluetooth?
[01:06] <Finetundra> kolossen, as far as i know it should show up somewhere in the ui by default. unless of course you don't have bluetooth. what model machine do you have?
[01:07] <kolossen> Finetundra, i had bluetooth on this comp when running windows
[01:07] <daniel__> irc.anonops.net
[01:07] <kolossen> then i installed ubuntu instead
[01:07] <kolossen> but no bluetooth from what i can see
[01:07] <kolossen> do i have to mount it or something?
[01:07] <macqi> drivers should create a /dev for it
[01:08] <acmeraptor> apoligies. tried to join ##linux but got a message that i couldn't send a message to the channel.  couldnt join #linux either as it was invite only
[01:08] <somsip> !register | acmeraptor
[01:08] <Finetundra> well, for me it was just there in a tray icon. probably either is disabled or doesn't have a driver to it
[01:09] <acmeraptor> !register | acmeraptor
[01:09] <acmeraptor> i see it. thank you @ubottu
[01:12] <dominic1134> why did ubuntu switch to rsyslog? in my opinion rsyslog is total crap, not well documented, and bugged
[01:14] <cida> Where can I get the link for all of ubuntu's drivers? I have a second computer that can't get use wifi or ethernet. I know how to fix it, but I just can't find the drivers  page :I
[01:18] <daftykins> dominic1134: you're welcome to ask that in #ubuntu-offtopic where discussion of such things is welcome, this is support.
[01:19] <dominic1134> daftykins, thanks
[01:35] <user1> hello i tried xbuntu in live mode and had 1024x768 res now ive installed it everythings massive
[01:35] <Finetundra> user1, check your drivers?
[01:36] <user1> ok how
[01:36] <mybox1776> Anyone know why I cannot join #centos from here? I found it in the list but I cannot seem t join - does nothing
[01:36] <daftykins> mybox1776: probably reg only, go ask in #freenode
[01:36] <genii> mybox1776: Might need to register your username first
[01:36] <genii> !register
[01:36] <mybox1776> Ok thanks!
[01:36] <user1> ive just had a new version notification appear do i install it
[01:37]  * genii feeds daftykins a fresh batch of cookies
[01:37] <Finetundra> user1, go to settings -> hardware-> additional drivers
[01:37] <daftykins> i dream of genii's cookies :D
[01:37] <Finetundra> user1, probably a good idea
[01:39] <Bashing-om> user1: " new version notification " consider carefully, is this version 14.04 -> 14.10 ? .. as 14.04 is LTS .
[01:39] <daftykins> user1: if you mean it's offering 14.10 if you installed 14.04, no - don't do it
[01:39] <user1> just look at additional drivers empty box
[01:39] <ahmer_> What is the difference between Ubuntu and Xubuntu?
[01:39] <daftykins> one has unity, one has xfce
[01:39] <ahmer_> ty
[01:40] <user1> oh its doing something now
[01:41] <Finetundra> user1, like what?
[01:41] <user1> said new version ok it
[01:41] <Finetundra> what version?
[01:42] <daftykins> bad move.
[01:42] <Finetundra> e\
[01:42] <Finetundra> no dont ok it
[01:42] <user1> i did see 14.04 trusty tayr and 14.10
[01:43] <daftykins> i would abort that upgrade, user1 .
[01:44] <ReScO> http://www.linux.com/community/forums/drivers/nvidia-graphic-cards-850m-on-asus-n750jk-with-ubuntu-1410/20236 i'm having the same issue, dual gpu intel/nvidia gtx 850m, how can i enable usage of the 850m?
[01:45] <user1> whats up with the updates then
[01:45] <daftykins> user1: you're currently on an LTS release, (long term support). 14.10 is not LTS, thus inferior
[01:45] <daftykins> blindly upgrading release is not a way to solve problems
[01:45] <Finetundra> ReSc0, have you tried setting you primary graphics in the nvidia control panel
[01:46] <daftykins> Finetundra: it's a job for nvidia-prime, that's an optimus setup.
[01:46] <user1> support for 3 yr version
[01:46] <daftykins> 5 years
[01:46] <ReScO> daftykins: nvidia-prime doesn't work out of the box
[01:46] <daftykins> ReScO: i know, you have to set it up.
[01:47] <ReScO> when i install it, i get the login screen but after that, nothing
[01:47] <user1> so how do i know whats a lts update or the short version
[01:47] <ReScO> had to reinstall twice
[01:47] <daftykins> ReScO: also, likely no ubuntu included driver supports the 850m yet - so you probably have to use a newer one.
[01:47] <Finetundra> user1, you just have to check the ubuntu releases to see what is and isn't
[01:47] <ReScO> daftykins: do you have a proper tutorial i can follow?
[01:47] <daftykins> user1: sorry i don't understand that.
[01:47] <daftykins> ReScO: no
[01:48] <ReScO> daftykins: he means how he can find out if he's on LTS or not
[01:48] <user1> yeah when u recieive a update notification
[01:48] <ReScO> you don't
[01:49] <daftykins> ReScO: no, doesn't make much sense since user1 just installed
[01:49] <daftykins> pretty sure you would know what version you just installed
[01:49] <Finetundra> user1, if its just a update for general stuff then it will say update. if it is to a newer release it will say upgrade
[01:50] <Finetundra> least i think thats what you're asking
[01:50] <user1> is there a update for 14.04 lts
[01:50] <ReScO> sorry, really having some trouble with this 850m
[01:51] <daftykins> ReScO: yeah, probably too soon to use it under Linux or something. have a look what driver first added support for it.
[01:51] <pistdov> walking dead - midseason finale in 10min
[01:51] <genii> pistdov: Please quit spamming channels with that.
[01:51] <ReScO> daftykins: the nvidia driver supports it
[01:52] <ReScO> but it has a dual gpu setup (this laptop)
[01:52] <daftykins> ReScO: there are multiple versions. you don't understand
[01:52] <ReScO> daftykins: i figured that out already. :P
[01:53] <colifato> hi all ..
[01:53] <daftykins> ReScO: right, so i'm not sure that ubuntu packaged drivers support that model.
[01:53] <ReScO> can i build them myself?
[01:53] <daftykins> you don't 'build' drivers.
[01:53] <user1> where can u find drivers for res
[01:54] <ReScO> daftykins: so i'm stuck with my CPU's GPU?
[01:54] <colifato> i have a problem with ubuntu server and fail2ban.. who can help me?  --- tengo un problema con ubuntu server y fail2ban .. quien podria ayudarme?
[01:54] <ReScO> colifato: what's the problem?
[01:55] <colifato> 4 example: Nov 30 22:40:43 server1 postfix/smtpd[5373]: message repeated 10 times: [ warning: 115-64-243-173.static.tpgi.com.au[115.64.243.173]: SASL LOGIN authentication failed: authentication failure]
[01:55] <HerroWorlds>  does grep by default search hidden dir
[01:55] <daftykins> colifato: #ubuntu-server
[01:55] <colifato> ok thanxs
[01:55] <ReScO> stupid new laptop :P
[01:56] <somsip> colifato: check your SMTP login details in your default F2B action, check your SMTP server is running correctly
[01:57] <colifato> somsip: the server is running... smtp no problems.. fail2ban don't ban
[01:57] <somsip> colifato: the action script can't complete because SMTP is failing, so fix that problem
[01:59] <colifato> somsip do u say that i need to see mail.log ?
[01:59] <bleezy> how is everyone ?
[01:59] <Finetundra> how do you change the splash screen?
[02:00] <user1> how do i find out what that update did and what version im on
[02:00] <somsip> colifato: the actions F2B takes are defined in /etc/fail2ban/actions.d In your jail.local you will define which action you want to use. If that action sends an email whenever a ban is set, and that email cannot be sent because the SMTP auth details are not correctly set in the action, it may cause problems. Check your SMTP auth details in your actions
[02:00] <Finetundra> user1, open a terminal and do sudo apt-get install sysinfo
[02:00] <user1> thank u
[02:00] <Finetundra> user1, should tell you all you need to know
[02:01] <bleezy> how do i make my graphincs card stop wigging out
[02:01] <somsip> colifato: also check in /var/log/fail2ban.log for anything that might be reveal\ling
[02:02] <Finetundra> user1, i'm here should you need help with that
[02:02] <user1> ive typed it its gone straight over my head
[02:02] <bleezy> Finetundra, know anything about graphics cards
[02:02] <Finetundra> user1, have you opened it?
[02:03] <colifato> fail2ban.log is quiet, died..
[02:03] <Finetundra> bleezy, not too much, but i'll try
[02:03] <user1> loads of numbers and stuff
[02:03] <Finetundra> user1, is the program open, yes or no?
[02:03] <bleezy> Finetundra, thanks but no thanks
[02:03] <user1> yeah mate
[02:03] <bleezy> I need real help
[02:04] <tracyone> How to enable FIPS compliance for wifi connect in ubuntu 14.04
[02:04] <Finetundra> user1, click on system
[02:04] <bleezy> anyone avaliable for a little help ?
[02:04] <Finetundra> user1, what you're looking for is release
[02:05] <somsip> colifato: so what's your real problem? No bans, or no emails?
[02:05] <user1> what version ive got coz it updated and everyone went no
[02:05] <user1> is it 14.04 or 14.10
[02:05] <colifato> no bans
[02:05] <Finetundra> user1, should be 14.04
[02:06] <user1> trying to find version where is it
[02:06] <bleezy> why are there so many people and no much help ?
[02:06] <somsip> !ask | bleezy
[02:06] <Finetundra> user1, give me a screenshot of the system section of sysinfo
[02:06] <colifato> ban ssh, ban apache, but not sasl
[02:07] <bleezy> my bad
[02:07] <somsip> colifato: so there are bans. If you're going to be vague, it'll be painful to help you. If you clearly state your problem, we may get it sorted quickly. Where did you get the sasl filter from?
[02:07] <bleezy> patience lol been here 2 days
[02:07] <ulkesh> user1: if you run cat /etc/lsb-release in a terminal you'll see what version you currently have installed (assuming this is what you're requesting)
[02:07] <somsip> bleezy: so you should know that we need details, not just requests for help.
[02:08] <amjam> Thanks for your help earlier guys, my girlfriend is currently using Ubuntu on her Dell Inspiron laptop now. :)
[02:08] <bleezy> somsip, well you up for the task
[02:08] <bleezy> somsip, ive posted all kind of stuff on here
[02:08] <somsip> bleezy: i don't know as you still haven't given details
[02:08] <Finetundra> ulkesh, thats what he's needing. completely forgot about that line
[02:08] <user1> yeah thats it
[02:08] <Finetundra> user1, so whats the number?
[02:09] <bleezy> someara, i have a geforce 6200 le . non of the drivers in additional driver work correctly. i was trying to update driver
[02:09] <user1> DISTRIB_RELEASE=14.04
[02:09] <user1> DISTRIB_CODENAME=trusty DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
[02:09] <Finetundra> user1, ok, you're good
[02:10] <ulkesh> user1: you're up to date for the current LTS release then
[02:10] <user1> ok thank u
[02:10] <colifato> somsip : http://tny.cz/dbdb7fb5
[02:10] <Finetundra> no if you'll excuse me i'll be finishing my update
[02:10] <user1> next how can i get the res
[02:10] <colifato> these is mi sasl.conf
[02:10] <colifato> postfix-sasl.conf
[02:10] <colifato> sorry
[02:11] <ulkesh> user1: the "res"?  what specifically are you looking for?  easiest method of updating is:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade (it will then show you all the packages the package manager sees needing updates)
[02:11] <bleezy> somsip,  i have a geforce 6200 le . none of the drivers in additional driver work correctly. i was trying to update driver
[02:11] <somsip> colifato: where did you get this? Does it work with fail2ban-regex (to test it)? Is it right for the version of F2B you are using as the format changed recently
[02:12] <somsip> bleezy: I use standard drivers with my nvidia and have never had a problem. I don't have any troubleshooting experience, so you need someone else to help you
[02:12] <user1> i run it in live mode got 1024x768 and installed xubuntu now 800x600 and everythings massive
[02:12] <colifato> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9323469/
[02:12] <colifato> now i copy the regex
[02:12] <bleezy> user1, i had that problem but worse
[02:12] <user1> no its 640x480 now
[02:12] <ulkesh> user1: most likely you're simply needing the proper graphics driver...what video card do you have?
[02:13] <LanDi> hey guys, I want to buy a GeForce GTX 750... there is one with a nice price here... but it's just 1GB.... will it be a problem ?
[02:13] <bleezy> user1, good luck ive been trying for 2 days solid
[02:13] <user1> ok here the hard part sis
[02:13] <somsip> LanDi: what will you use it for? Heavy demand games or just desktop use?
[02:13] <colifato> this is the regex
[02:13] <colifato> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9323470/
[02:13] <bleezy> i got stuck at 640x480 could do a thing
[02:14] <user1> i run xbuntu in live mode got good res 1024x768 and now installed 640x480
[02:14] <LanDi> somsip: both, I love games but not very heavy ones
[02:14] <bleezy> user its a driver issue
[02:14] <somsip> colifato: and is your jail for sasl set up correctly?
[02:14] <Bashing-om> user1: Is your graphics chip set "SIS" ? There are known problems with that chip set.
[02:14] <HerroWorlds> wtf i rthink someone is trying to hack my server?!?!
[02:15] <somsip> LanDi: you may need to be directed by the min spec of the games you want to play then
[02:15] <Finetundra> user1, you aren't on a vm by chance are you?
[02:15] <ulkesh> user1: it's possible the live cd had some kernel options or other drivers running that helped and upon install those did not get loaded...what video card do you have?  you can see all your hardware using the command lspci
[02:15] <LanDi> somsip: ok
[02:15] <user1> a what finetundra
[02:15] <Finetundra> virtual machine, user1
[02:15] <HerroWorlds> what does this do?!
[02:15] <HerroWorlds> http://pastebin.com/SC5LydRJ
[02:15] <user1> nah fine
[02:15] <HerroWorlds> and how do i tell if it broke something
[02:16] <Finetundra> just making sure
[02:16] <user1> vid card sis, worked great on live mode
[02:16] <colifato> somsip: these is that i don't know :D
[02:16] <bleezy> i have a nvidia card still suck
[02:17] <somsip> HerroWorlds: someone is trying to get a page on your site. If you have an external IP this will happen. Bots will hit admin pages and possible backdoors looking for a vulnerability
[02:17] <somsip> colifato: paste it
[02:17] <HerroWorlds> somsip: it is not a website though, it is a server script
[02:18] <somsip> HerroWorlds: you just pasteed an HTTP request.
[02:18] <HerroWorlds> so that command was searching for all http pages on my site?
[02:18] <somsip> HerroWorlds: no, it's trying to GET /manager/html
[02:18] <bbryant> hey, I've got a problem switching to chromium as my default browser... chromium thinks it's my default browser, but external links are still launching into firefox
[02:18] <ulkesh> user1: potentially this may help (assuming it's the right site for the chipset)...I see an xorg driver (though I hope it's not out of date for your version of X):  http://w3.sis.com/download/download_step2.php?id=155961&country=USA&Image791.x=60&Image791.y=15
[02:18] <HerroWorlds> which should not exist because the directory does not exist on my server?
[02:18] <bbryant> why would that happen?
[02:19] <user1> i went back to xp earlier and res was super vga 1600x1200
[02:19] <bleezy> Nvidia driver install anyone have a clue ?
[02:19] <bbryant> bleezy: yea, i'm sure many people are experienced with that
[02:19] <bbryant> can you flesh out a more detailed question?
[02:19] <somsip> HerroWorlds: if it doesn't exist, then the request will get nothing back. Maybe a 404 error if an HTTP server is running on that port
[02:19] <ulkesh> user1: it's certainly a driver issue and i'm not familiar with that chipset enough to be of further help (my apologies)... i hope that link helps
[02:19] <colifato> this is my jail.conf
[02:19] <colifato> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9323517/
[02:19] <HerroWorlds> somsip: its a custom protocol
[02:20] <bleezy> bbryant, how do update my driver
[02:20] <Bashing-om> user1: Do: sudo lshw -C display l if it is " product: 771/671 PCIE VGA Display Adapter ", then you are looking at installing Lubuntu and making up a Xorg.conf file.  ( unity = 3D amd that card does not support 3D ).
[02:20] <bbryant> bleezy: first, why do you want to do that?f
[02:20] <colifato> this my sasl.conf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9323521/
[02:20] <bubbasaures> bbryant, The settings app, details-default
[02:20] <somsip> colifato: you have a filter decalred, and a failregex. IIRC the failregex will override the filter. So you may want to remove that
[02:21] <user1> ok bash ill look give us a min not the quickest
[02:21] <colifato> where i need remove? in the jail.conf ?
[02:21] <bbryant> bubbasaures: you're awesome, thank you
[02:21] <ulkesh> user1: that's true, what Bashing-om says, it could also be an xorg conf issue (where you would potentially have to define the various resolutions/etc)
[02:21] <bbryant> I'll stick around to answer smoe questions to pay it forward
[02:21] <somsip> HerroWorlds: This is way off topic for this channel. It's not clear what your actual problem is, so I'm not sure i can comment more
[02:21] <bleezy> bbryant, i cant play a game and more important screen goes crazy when switching windows and alot more
[02:21] <somsip> colifato: in jail.local, under the [sasl] section, remove the failregex
[02:22] <HerroWorlds> somsip: sorry it was just something that popped up on my ubuntu server, i was not suure where else to ask
[02:23] <colifato> removed
[02:23] <colifato> restart fail2ban ... ok
[02:23] <colifato> now? regex?
[02:24] <user1> im on xbuntu
[02:25] <somsip> colifato: check if it works
[02:25] <colifato> how? waiting?
[02:25] <somsip> colifato: trigger a ban
[02:26] <colifato> how?
[02:26] <Bashing-om> user1: OK for xubuntu, what specific 'SIS' card (from lshw output) are you running ?
[02:26] <somsip> colifato: by taking action that causes the entry matched by the regex to be added to the log
[02:26] <bleezy> Help...
[02:27] <bleezy> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[02:27] <somsip> bleezy: use sudo
[02:27] <colifato> bleezy: use sudo
[02:27] <bleezy> duh
[02:27] <user1> 771/671 PCIE VGA Display Adapter       vendor: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS
[02:27] <bleezy> i did
[02:28] <colifato> somsip: i dont know how these ips try to enter to my server
[02:28] <bleezy> sudo apt-get install nvidia-current?
[02:28] <colifato> i wait one :D
[02:28] <zykotick9> bleezy: do you have synatic/software center/updater open?
[02:29] <bleezy> zykotick9, yes
[02:29] <zykotick9> bleezy: close them.  then try apt-get again.
[02:29] <Finetundra> so daftykins, what were you saying about a PAE kernel?
[02:29] <bleezy> zykotick9, thanks
[02:29] <daftykins> Finetundra: that i won't support your EOL release (:
[02:30] <Finetundra> i just finished the blasted upgrade! do you need proof?
[02:30] <bleezy> why are my screens taking so long to move hard to explain in context
[02:30] <bleezy> they move like im on an 16 meg pc
[02:31] <colifato> somsip: Nov 30 23:29:11 server1 postfix/smtpd[6828]: warning: unknown[67.219.55.152]: SASL LOGIN authentication failed: authentication failure Nov 30 23:29:18 server1 postfix/smtpd[6828]: message repeated 10 times: [ warning: unknown[67.219.55.152]: SASL LOGIN authentication failed: authentication failure]
[02:31] <colifato> again and no ban
[02:31] <Bashing-om> user1: See: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2167879&highlight=sis ; to make up a possible Xorg.conf file.
[02:32] <somsip> colifato: does it match the regex? Copy the log, delete everything but that one line, run it through fail2ban-regex
[02:32] <Finetundra> daftykins, i've upgraded
[02:32] <daftykins> Finetundra: so what's "uname -a" now?
[02:32] <daftykins> Finetundra: drop that attitude or i will ignore you.
[02:33] <Finetundra> daftykins, Linux james-Dimension-4700 3.13.0-40-generic #69-Ubuntu SMP Thu Nov 13 17:56:26 UTC 2014 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[02:33] <colifato> somsip: but in wich file i see the log? mail.log ?
[02:33] <daftykins> Finetundra: and how does 'free -m' look?
[02:34] <bleezy> guess have to go back to crappy windows atleast i works
[02:35] <Finetundra> daftykins, about the same :                total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[02:35] <Finetundra> Mem:          3028        946       2081         13         79        529
[02:35] <Finetundra> -/+ buffers/cache:        337       2690
[02:35] <Finetundra> Swap:         3068          0       3068
[02:35] <user1> sudo cp xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf just typed that and nothing
[02:35] <daftykins> bleezy: possibly, your PC is rubbish. with that attitude, yes, go back to Windows
[02:35] <user1> no such file
[02:35] <bleezy> daftykins, lol alienware
[02:35] <bleezy> newest
[02:35] <daftykins> Finetundra: you should know better than to paste here.
[02:36] <Bashing-om> user1: The file does not exist by default. You must make it up ( with the correct parameters ) .
[02:36] <Finetundra> daftykins, http://pastebin.com/QnRWw2tZ
[02:37] <user1> thanks bashing but u lost me aint got a clue
[02:37] <somsip> colifato: you tell me - you just pasted it
[02:37] <daftykins> Finetundra: try installing linux-generic-pae and booting into it.
[02:37] <Finetundra> user1, i think he' trying to say that you need to create a proper file there manually
[02:37] <Bashing-om> user1: Read the link I gave, and we take this matter back up . This may be a lenghtly process .
[02:38] <user1> i have been reading it but dont really follow it to u be easy i suppose
[02:38] <Finetundra> daftykins, how do i go about booting into it?
[02:39] <Finetundra> daftykins, do i just reboot?
[02:40] <pANDaretara> Goodmorning
[02:40] <Bashing-om> user1: Not a big problem. For the background see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2215422 , as to why your SIS card does not work .
[02:40] <daftykins> Finetundra: are you not familiar with dealing with kernels?
[02:40] <Finetundra> daftykins, this would be the first time
[02:40] <daftykins> Finetundra: watch what installs, then you can hold left shift at boot time to get the GRUB menu and pick another kernel to be sure
[02:40] <bbryant> so I'm having troubel with things opening in firefox even though the setting in settings->details->defaults says chromium
[02:40] <bbryant> any idea why that would be the case?
[02:41] <bbryant> I'm lost
[02:41] <bbryant> I started this process by going to chrome's settings and setting it as the default browser
[02:41] <daftykins> bbryant: logged out and in again since?
[02:41] <bbryant> just restarted
[02:41] <bbryant> for good measure
[02:42] <daftykins> well that's all i've got.
[02:42] <bbryant> let's see what happens when I get rid of firefox
[02:42] <bbryant> I don't want it anyway
[02:43] <zykotick9> bbryant: from a terminal try "sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser" and confirm it's set to chromium, then do "sudo update-alternatives --config gnome-www-browser" and verify that is also set to chromium.  /me isn't a fan of chromium, and less a fan of chrome.  best of luck.
[02:44] <bbryant> there we go
[02:44] <bbryant> ok, I can try taht
[02:44] <bbryant> but uninstalling firefox seemd to fix it
[02:44] <basil1x> There's always Rekonq. ;)
[02:44] <daftykins> bbryant: not fix, avoid.
[02:45] <basil1x> or PaleMoon, or Midori
[02:45] <bbryant> zykotick9: I'll keep that approach in mind
[02:45] <bbryant> for whenever I install another browser
[02:45] <bbryant> and have the problem again
[02:45] <zykotick9> bbryant: ahhh, if you used apt-get to uninstall firefox, you may be in for problems down the road!  it probably breaks gnome/unity/whatever metapackages...
[02:45] <bbryant> seriously?
[02:45] <user1> thanks read it still dont understand it
[02:45] <bbryant> ok then time to reinstall!
[02:45] <Finetundra> daftykins, doesn't show the new kernel
[02:46] <daftykins> Finetundra: what did the installation put on?
[02:47] <Finetundra> daftykins, said that it put this one on: 3.13.0.40.47
[02:47] <bbryant> zykotick9: ok, so I reinstalled it and verified that update-alternatives is correct for both x-www... and gnome-www...
[02:47] <bbryant> I think I should be set now
[02:47] <allen> hey folks, can i build a Ubuntu on a flashdrive using persistence and have it install everything i have installed on the stick as well?
[02:47] <daftykins> Finetundra: ls -al / boot in a pastebin please
[02:47] <daftykins> oops
[02:48] <daftykins> Finetundra: "ls -al /boot"
[02:48] <bbryant> any other complications with me removing firefox to worry about?
[02:48] <bbryant> I reinstalled it with this to be careful "sudo apt-get install --reinstall firefox firefox-locale-en unity-scope-firefoxbookmarks xul-ext-webaccounts"
[02:49] <Finetundra> daftykins, http://pastebin.com/impfVrnd
[02:51] <daftykins> Finetundra: Tux damn it, what did i say about pastes earlier?
[02:51] <daftykins> oops i was scrolled up, ignore that
[02:52] <daftykins> wondered why i had such deja vu 0o
[02:52] <daftykins> Finetundra: why is there evidence of an EFI install there?
[02:53] <Finetundra> daftykins, no clue.
[02:53]  * daftykins blinks
[02:54] <Finetundra> daftykins, in fact if i understand what EFI is, i don't even own a machine with EFI
[02:54] <Bashing-om> user1: All they are saying is that you will have to make up an appropriate '/etc/X11/Xorg.conf' ( there is another alternative that might work easier I am hunting for it mow ) .
[02:54] <daftykins> Finetundra: that's my point :)
[02:55] <user1> thanks alot bashing
[02:55] <daftykins> Finetundra: can i see a "cat /proc/cpuinfo"
[02:56] <Finetundra> daftykins, http://pastebin.com/yBtK0DzB
[02:59] <mjuszczak> When my nsswitch.conf has "sudoers: files sss", it doesn't work with sss, but when I switch to "sudoers: sss files", it works fine.  Any ideas?
[02:59] <daftykins> Finetundra: check out - http://askubuntu.com/questions/272873/what-is-the-maximum-amount-of-ram-that-ubuntu-32-bit-supports
[03:02] <Finetundra> daftykins, so what am i looking to get from there?
[03:02] <daftykins> i was hoping you'd gain an understanding of the situation
[03:03] <daftykins> Finetundra: if you could make up boot media with 14.04.1 32-bit and boot it to compare free -m, that'd be very handy.
[03:13] <Bashing-om> user1: Finally found it . see: http://askubuntu.com/questions/455888/low-resolution-on-lubuntu-14-04-sis ; See if that solution will work for you .
[03:14] <daftykins> removing the sis driver would've done the same thing
[03:14] <daftykins> !info sis trusty
[03:14] <daftykins> ugh
[03:14] <daftykins> !find sis trusty
[03:14] <daftykins> yip one o' them
[03:15] <user1> download a vesadriver how i install it
[03:16] <daftykins> user1: this isn't Windows, you don't download and install drivers in the same way
[03:17] <user1> windows is bit easier
[03:17] <daftykins> you wouldn't have a hope with SiS on Windows :)
[03:17] <daftykins> that's some mighty ancient hardware right there
[03:19] <Bashing-om> user1: I am only aware of the 2 solutions I have provided .
[03:20] <user1> ok bashing thanks for your help i appreciate it
[03:21] <lagbox> anyone know of a memory leak in xorg in 14.10 ?
[03:21] <user1> erm how do i create a file
[03:22] <user1> i have to create this /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/use-vesa.conf
[03:22] <Bashing-om> user1: NP, get comfortable here with the terminal and making up files. As you have questions, ask .
[03:22] <k2gremlin> mkfile ?
[03:23] <k2gremlin> Ok so somehow my server isnt working right anymore.... it can ping out to the world but it can ping a PC on my own LAN. What gives?
[03:23] <daftykins> k2gremlin: i think you typo'd a logic word in there somewhere :)
[03:24] <k2gremlin> daftykins, correct lol! It can ping out to world but CAN'T ping LAN lol
[03:24] <k2gremlin> more specifically just 1 PC it cant ping.. narrowing it down
[03:24] <k2gremlin> but it can't ping the PC I am using right now. So I know this PC has connectivity lol
[03:25] <daftykins> are you sure it responds to ping?
[03:25] <Bashing-om> user1: do: touch /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/use-vesa.conf l then open the file in the text editor , copy and paste what the link provides for content , save the file, reboot to see the effect. ( make sure /etc/X11/Xorg.conf does not exist as they will conflict ) .
[03:25] <k2gremlin> They are on the same network.
[03:25] <daftykins> what about pinging the router...
[03:25] <k2gremlin> Yes FROM this PC to the server I can ping. but from the server back to this PC it can't ping
[03:26] <k2gremlin> but server can ping other devices on the LAN and has reachability to the web
[03:26] <zykotick9> k2gremlin: and are you running a firewall on "this PC"?
[03:26] <k2gremlin> Yes but ICMP is allowed lol
[03:26] <k2gremlin> and it "was" working earlier today/yesterday
[03:26] <k2gremlin> going to reboot "this PC" daftykins
[03:27] <user1> cant find that usr shar x 11 xorg conf thing in there
[03:28] <k2gremlin> Im back, lets try this again
[03:29] <k2gremlin> Same crap. I just SSH'ed into the server... but the server still can't ping this PC and refuses to mount a cifs mount as well
[03:29] <Finetundra> daftykins, this is from the live boot: http://pastebin.com/eR8dms6s
[03:29] <Bashing-om> user1: OK, -> sudo apt-get install pastebinit , ls -al /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d | pastebinit , results in a provided URL, pass that URL back here to the channel . Will show us the contents of that directory .
[03:30] <user1> upto the xorg.conf file there when i look into it no se vesa conf 1 thing
[03:31] <daftykins> Finetundra: still typing from there, or back on your install now?
[03:31] <Finetundra> still there
[03:31] <k2gremlin> im going to shoot this thing lol
[03:32] <w23rdst> Don't shoot it.
[03:32] <daftykins> Finetundra: i think it's game over then, your hardware is just too old... it's already running with a PAE kernel and reports fine, it just doesn't seem to echo in free -m.
[03:32] <Bashing-om> user1: Then you have not "touched" it .. can also make a new rile in the file manager and "save" it with the correct path (/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d) and name (use-vesa.conf) . Whichever means you prefer to use .
[03:32] <w23rdst> Hi daftykins.
[03:32] <k2gremlin> w23rdst, Im botting up a test ubuntu server VM to see if it can ping this pc
[03:32] <k2gremlin> Welcome NegativeFlare
[03:32] <daftykins> Finetundra: assuming your BIOS reports 4GB but the free -m doesn't - i don't know what to suggest.
[03:32] <daftykins> w23rdst: er, do i know you?
[03:33] <w23rdst> daftykins, no. This is my 1st time.
[03:33] <daftykins> ah ok. if you're here for a question, ask away
[03:33] <Finetundra> daftykins, the bios does report 4gb and the max cap is 4gb. this is not normal i'm assuming
[03:34] <daftykins> Finetundra: thing is, i know where i could get a system of that age for free and... i don't even care :) they're that old and rubbish. i'd sooner bury it than use it :)
[03:34] <w23rdst> daftykins, this is my 1st time on IRC.
[03:35] <user1> i give up its to hard
[03:35] <daftykins> w23rdst: ok, well this is a support channel for ubuntu questions only. #ubuntu-offtopic is where you can join for chat
[03:35] <daftykins> user1: i have an alternative approach if you'd like.
[03:35] <w23rdst> How do I join that channel?
[03:35] <user1> lol chuck the laptop
[03:35] <Finetundra> daftykins, well, in that case, i think i'll just put up with it. may as well
[03:36] <user1> get new one
[03:36] <daftykins> user1: but i warn you, even if you got your screen resolution working, you're using a dinosaur
[03:36] <daftykins> w23rdst: type "/join #ubuntu-offtopic"
[03:36] <user1> i have my pc most stuff
[03:37] <daftykins> k2gremlin: all i see is a lot of "lol" this and "lol" that.
[03:37] <w23rdst> Do you know of any programming channels daftykins?
[03:37] <daftykins> !alis | w23rdst
[03:37] <k2gremlin> daftykins, I am able to ping now. Just need to fix the cifs mount
[03:38] <daftykins> k2gremlin: ok. that's easy
[03:38] <Bashing-om> user1: Faint heart never won fair operating system .
[03:38] <w23rdst> You are great, daftykins.
[03:38] <w23rdst> thanks dude.
[03:39] <w23rdst> !alis
[03:39] <w23rdst> !alis
[03:39] <daftykins> that's not how you do it.
[03:39] <daftykins> read the message.
[03:40] <w23rdst> clear
[03:40] <k2gremlin> daftykins, Ok second mount I uderstand why its not working ;) It's a truecrypt mount thats used to hide crap from kids :)
[03:40] <w23rdst> !clear
[03:41] <daftykins> oh truecrypt, the no-longer-safe encryption prog
[03:41] <k2gremlin> Pretty much... lol
[03:41] <k2gremlin> Secure enough for a 10 and 11 year old
[03:41] <w23rdst> !alist
[03:42] <w23rdst> !alis
[03:42] <user1> very hard on here
[03:43] <w23rdst> Agree. I can't figure out how to use !alis
[03:43] <k2gremlin> daftykins, Is there any sufficent replacement for encrypting like Truecrypt did?
[03:43] <daftykins> w23rdst: type "/join #freenode" and go ask them please.
[03:43] <somsip> w23rdst:  Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*
[03:44] <w23rdst> -alis- Returning maximum of 60 channel names matching '#program'
[03:44] <w23rdst> -alis- #Program                                             1
[03:44] <w23rdst> -alis- End of output
[03:44] <user1> been trying create that vesa file for ages
[03:44] <w23rdst> This is strange.
[03:45] <daftykins> w23rdst: please go and ask in #freenode for more.
[03:45] <w23rdst> how do I join #freenode?
[03:46] <daftykins> user1: alright so what've you done?
[03:46] <daftykins> w23rdst: i already told you.
[03:46] <w23rdst> !join #freenode
[03:46] <w23rdst> I forgot.
[03:46] <daftykins> read up
[03:46] <rick_> Hi all, I am wondering why the status of /sys/class/net/eth0/carrier not reflect the status quickly after ifconfig eth0 up
[03:46] <user1> im trying to do what bashing linked me
[03:46] <rick_> it takes about two second to get correct result.
[03:46] <user1> i have to create this file /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/use-vesa.con
[03:46] <Bashing-om> user1: I failed to instruct you properly, try : sudo touch /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/use-vesa.conf , must have the elevated privileges of 'sudo' .
[03:48] <w23rdst> I am in #freenode.
[03:48] <guzti> Ahh finally I find this GREAT channel again
[03:48] <daftykins> uh-oh.
[03:49] <w23rdst> what do you mean, guzti?
[03:49] <user1> thanks bashing its put it there
[03:49] <user1> now says add  content
[03:50] <guzti> w23rdst: some while ago I had BIG problems with my ubuntu server machine and "someone", I unfortunately don't remember the nick helped me get it fixed in under 20 minutes.
[03:50] <daftykins> guzti: sooo, what've you broken today? :)
[03:50] <w23rdst> It was probably me, guzti.
[03:50] <guzti> Well! As incredible as it is.. nothing :D
[03:50] <w23rdst> I kind of remember your name.
[03:50] <daftykins> ah, so you're not here for a support question then.
[03:51] <Bashing-om> user1: Making progress . copy and past into the file, from text editor, the contents of the askubuntu link , save the file . check that Xorg.conf does not exist, save '/use-vesa.con' file, reboot .
[03:51] <Bashing-om> paste*
[03:51] <guzti> Well, I was really going to ask you for your opinion on hardware for making my second server.. In finding the fest "fitting to gether" hardware... there I go BLANK
[03:52] <daftykins> guzti: /join ##hardware
[03:52] <guzti> And not that I haven't read thousands of pages about it..
[03:52] <user1> http://askubuntu.com/questions/455888/low-resolution-on-lubuntu-14-04-sis
[03:52] <user1> thats what i trying to do
[03:52] <daftykins> user1: *we* don't need that link :)
[03:54] <w23rdst> daftykins, can I add you to my friend list?
[03:54] <guzti> TThank's for the redirection daftykins!
[03:54] <w23rdst> guzti, daftykins is a great guy.
[03:55] <guzti> 'You're both such sweet little guys!
[03:55] <w23rdst> You are a good friend, daftykins.
[03:56] <basil1x> Hippies
[03:58] <w23rdst> daftykins, are you still here, dude?
[03:59] <user1> why have i got massive x thru root
[04:00] <guzti> [03:58am] <guzti> Ok. I'm just going to do as requested in topic: I really need advice about whe whole harware set for a powerful homeserver (running Ubuntu server). I have read probably 1500-2000 pages of recommendations for the various of diferent servers and I probably have some knowledge to do something on my own while deciding the harware.. but I simply don't trust too well in what I,
[04:00] <guzti> myself, believe would be best.
[04:00] <guzti> [03:58am] [N] Cannot send to channel
[04:00] <guzti> [03:58am] [N] Cannot send to channel
[04:00] <Bashing-om> user1: I do not understand that last, rephrase please, You have rebooted, and the resolution is very large ?
[04:01] <guzti> what's up with thaaat :o Was I getting it wrong how I should ask the question or where?
[04:01] <kandinsk1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9324605/
[04:01] <user1> not rebooted yet
[04:01] <kandinsk1> problem installing icedtea on utopic ^^
[04:02] <daftykins> guzti: this channel isn't support for other channels. was this #hardware or ##hardware ?
[04:02] <guzti> ##
[04:02] <hesco> Building an NFSv4 server, when I went to add an entry to /etc/exports, I found that it was a directory, when I was expecting a file.  Can anyone please provide a pointer to documentation on how I ought to adapt the usual config to account for this difference?
[04:03] <guzti> [04:03am] [N] #hardware Cannot join channel (+i) - you must be invited
[04:04] <guzti> This is my LUCKY day! I got to celebrate by fetching a ice cold beer from the fridge
[04:04] <daftykins> guzti: yeah, you used one #. it's _##hardware_
[04:04] <guzti> No, I was there
[04:05] <guzti> GAH am I getting crazy, losing my mind... or some portion of both
[04:05] <daftykins> guzti: yeah you need to register.
[04:06] <guzti> freenode uses too many features like this! IRCnet is so plain and simple
[04:06] <guzti> It of course has to be for stupid people me being there
[04:06] <guzti> like me*
[04:07] <daftykins> !ot | guzti
[04:07] <guzti> Ahh.. Thanks again... Well at IRCnet one will not help you but rather make fun of you
[04:08] <guzti> Probably a BIG minus
[04:09] <daftykins> guzti: i'm getting close to doing that too. please stop rambling
[04:10] <guzti> rambling? I'm not following, but I shall leave before you do that.. I rather want to remember your helpfulness!
[04:21] <MM[TexasTech]> Travis
[04:21] <MM[TexasTech]> Are you here?
[04:22] <w23rdst> You are a good friend, daftykins.
[04:22] <w23rdst> Travis just left.
[04:23] <MM[TexasTech]> you know travis?
[04:24] <w23rdst> Yes, I know him.
[04:24] <w23rdst> He was just in here.
[04:26] <ses1984> how would i go about looking up which versions of proprietary graphics card drivers are (kind of) supported by ubuntu
[04:27] <ses1984> for example i have a couple spare graphics cards that could go into a system and the choice of which to use depends on which version of the graphics drivers ubuntu will install by default through the gui
[04:27] <daftykins> !nvidia | ses1984
[04:28] <daftykins> there's a link there which will tell you what packages are on 14.04
[04:29] <basil1x> Matrox were the best.  Are they still around?
[04:29] <daftykins> not in 10+ years
[04:29] <basil1x> Pity.
[04:29] <daftykins> sorry, 12 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matrox_Parhelia
[04:30] <daftykins> that was the last thing i remember them making
[04:30] <daftykins> no, the only thing they ever did was multihead output
[04:30] <daftykins> beyond that they weren't even a horse in the race
[04:32] <basil1x> Seems they're still around: http://www.matrox.com/graphics/en/products/graphics_cards/c-series/
[04:33] <daftykins> ah
[04:33] <daftykins> you'd probably find them doing kit for people that deal with stocks and shares and all that - they always seem to have tonnes of screens
[04:34] <basil1x> Likely.  I did like them when I had Win98, though.
[04:38] <bbryant> I'm having trouble getting netflix to work on a new installation of 14.04 with chromium as the browser
[04:38] <bbryant> any ideas?
[04:39] <bbryant> netflix gives me error code M7357-1003
[04:39] <ses1984> i think only google chrome is supported, not chromium
[04:39] <bbryant> I can't find chrome in the repos
[04:39] <bbryant> I looked
[04:39] <ses1984> it's not in there, have to download it from google
[04:39] <bbryant> seriously?
[04:39] <bbryant> sigh
[04:40] <Ben64> add the google repository, it is not difficult
[04:40] <daftykins> bbryant: yep, binary blob DRM used, non-chromium i think.
[04:40] <bbryant> ok thanks
[04:40] <bbryant> yea, I found it
[04:44] <bbryant> netflix works now
[04:44] <bbryant> thanks again
[04:51] <aperture_> Question: I've successfully sent a command to /dev/ttyUSB0 using screen on ubuntu, but how can I echo to that?
[04:51] <aperture_> I tried echo e "#0 P750 \n" > /dev/ttyUSB0 , but it was ignored...
[04:51] <aperture_> *echo -e
[04:53] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[04:54] <daftykins> lotuspsychje: \o welcome back
[04:54] <josePHPagoda> g'morning
[04:54] <nono_> morning
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: tnx
[04:54] <josePHPagoda> anyone know how to make my touchscreen in ubuntu 14.04 send actual mouse click events?
[04:54] <Borys> morning
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> josePHPagoda: what kind of device do you have?
[04:55] <josePHPagoda> it works just fine, but some of my older games dont get a mouseclick event
[04:55] <josePHPagoda> it's a fairly new lenovo all in one
[04:55] <josePHPagoda> it's built into the a720
[04:55] <josePHPagoda> :)
[04:56] <Borys> Hi. Which software I should use on remote vps to broadcast rtp audio over internet from my local pc to few mobile devices on android/ios? I need it for my Fire Departament. I know that I can do it with Unreal Media server, but its windows-only.
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> josePHPagoda: maybe its game itself, instead of the touch recognizing
[04:56] <josePHPagoda> it is
[04:56] <josePHPagoda> which is why I was hoping there was a way that it could be configured to just send mouse click events
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> josePHPagoda: wich game is this?
[04:57] <josePHPagoda> any game using sdl
[04:57] <noidea> How can I change the permissions of all directories within a directory and separately change permissions on all files within the same directory?
[04:57] <aperture_> oh, fixed. Was using "\n" instead of "\r" for carriage return. :/
[04:57] <josePHPagoda> including one I am writing
[04:57] <josePHPagoda> so it's not old games per se
[04:57] <josePHPagoda> but most of my games I play are old
[04:57] <josePHPagoda> because I'm old
[04:57]  * josePHPagoda feels nostalgic now :P
[04:57] <lotuspsychje> josePHPagoda: well im not sure there's a package for that, but maybe the #ubuntu-touch guys know a way?
[04:58] <josePHPagoda> i didn't know that channel existed
[04:58] <daftykins> Borys: looked into subsonic.org ?
[04:58] <lotuspsychje> josePHPagoda: well thats for the touch version of ubuntu
[04:58] <Borys> No, I will now
[04:58] <lotuspsychje> josePHPagoda: not really your case but they might be able to help
[04:58] <josePHPagoda> i hope they can :)
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> josePHPagoda: also search apt-cache search touch , some packages show up
[05:00] <bbryant> Borys: is RTP audio a part of a SIP call ?
[05:01] <daftykins> bbryant: they both end in protocol, which means they're entirely different things
[05:01] <josePHPagoda> lotuspsychje: i looked through most of those, nothing really useful unfortunately
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> josePHPagoda: bummer :p
[05:02] <Borys> bbryant: no, I have a radio transceiver plug into line in on my local, and I need to broadcast it for mobile devices. Now I use icecast/darkice but I need something in real time, or about 2s delay, now I get 5-10s delay with icecast
[05:02] <bbryant> daftykins: they are, but SIP is just a signaling protocol which transmits the audio/video of a call through RTP
[05:02] <bbryant> they are related
[05:03] <bbryant> and knowing which would help me to recommend different software
[05:03] <daftykins> bbryant: that's true i guess anything can be a session really.
[05:03] <daftykins> Borys: are you trying to make some cheap alternative to having radios for a fire brigade crew? :P
[05:03] <Borys> So I think about rtp but I dont know which software I can use for it. I think I can encode audio from line in with ffmpeg, and transmit it to vps with high UL bandwith, and connect from mobile to vps to hear my transceiver
[05:04] <Borys> exatly :)
[05:04] <daftykins> why?
[05:04] <bbryant> those things really need to be reliable
[05:04] <daftykins> ^
[05:04] <bbryant> do you think something you hack together will be?
[05:04] <daftykins> first thing to go in an emergency: mobile phone reception
[05:04] <bbryant> no kidding
[05:05] <bbryant> rule 1 of war is go for the communications
[05:05] <basil1x> Last thing:  the 50-year-old Motorola pole speaker.
[05:06] <bbryant> so yea, I don't think this is a good idea
[05:06] <Borys> So how can I do it?
[05:07] <daftykins> you can't involve mobile phone data connections and communication hacks with emergency services
[05:07] <daftykins> that's just... quite frankly immoral
[05:07] <bbryant> yea, I refuse to help you do something like that
[05:07] <Borys> But it amateur fire departament
[05:08] <bbryant> real fires though
[05:08] <Borys> and I cant get everywhere my radio transceiver
[05:08] <daftykins> Borys: what's in place right now?
[05:08] <daftykins> surely the radio stays at the HQ
[05:09] <Borys> yup, but when fire comes, I get sms that I have to go to HQ
[05:09] <bbryant> and I assume you pick up a radio there
[05:09] <bbryant> right?
[05:09] <Borys> no
[05:09] <bbryant> so what do you do now
[05:09] <Borys> We have two FD - amateur and professional
[05:10] <Borys> Im amateur, so when proffessional need backup, they send us sms and run siren so I come to my ameteur HQ
[05:10] <Borys> dress up and go
[05:10] <Borys> I can listen to radio in HQ, or get it to home
[05:11] <bbryant> why aren't you given radios?
[05:11] <bbryant> I assume the professinoals have them
[05:11] <bbryant> right?
[05:11] <daftykins> i guess that's where the amateur part comes in
[05:11] <daftykins> more volunteering
[05:11] <Borys> yes
[05:11] <Borys> sorry, my english is little poor
[05:11] <bbryant> your english seems fine
[05:12] <bbryant> I didn't notice a problem
[05:12] <Borys> so with broadcasting radio by net, I can listen to my channel and know what going up before professionals run up siren
[05:13] <Borys> So when I hear that something is going up in my area I can go to my HQ and be ready when siren run
[05:13] <Borys> So I can save some much time
[05:14] <daftykins> i think that would be jumping the gun on the decision of the professionals to involve your crew
[05:15] <Borys> anyway, I do it now with icecast and its working, one think I want its less delay
[05:15] <Borys> so, could you help me with this, guys?
[05:16] <bbryant> ok, so why do you think you can reduce delay with a new solution?
[05:16] <bbryant> what is being done inefficiently now, in your mind?
[05:18] <Borys> buffer of client - mobile device I think, but I think that when I use rtp instead icecast I can get near real-time audio
[05:21] <yesyes> does anyone know how i can turn my fn lock of on my macbook ubuntu mutnatn
[05:21] <yesyes> mutant*
[05:23] <cyphase> anyone know why i'd be getting the error "Unhandled error message: Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)" when trying to connect to an sftp server in nautilus on 14.04?
[05:27] <Borys> I think I can use ffmpeg to encode audio and push it to vps with rtsp, but what I should install on vps with ubuntu to broadcast it for mobile?
[05:27] <basil1x> ffmpeg has disappeared, or haven't you noticed?
[05:27] <daftykins> basil1x: that's a very unfriendly way to word something.
[05:28] <basil1x> Sorry.  it was a very shocking thing to find out, I can tell you.
[05:30] <michaelgamble> hey
[05:30] <michaelgamble> how do i get an external ext4 drive to boot mount instead
[05:31] <michaelgamble> right now i get an error when i try to do it in ubuntus ui app disks
[05:31] <Borys> basil1x: whatover, vlc also can encode it and push to vps, question still is "what software use on vps to receive rt stream and broadcast as mp3/ogg, so I can listen it on android/ios mobile"
[05:32] <basil1x> IDJC, probably.
[05:32] <basil1x> Though I've never attempted that.
[05:34] <daftykins> michaelgamble: "boot mount" ?
[05:56] <tkesler> Could use some help with my laptop screen flickering.   can't find a solution
[05:58] <michaelgamble> ive run into the same issue
[05:58] <michaelgamble> the screen is flickering entirely? or your mouse is
[05:58] <tkesler> whole screen
[05:59] <michaelgamble> ah ok, didnt have that problem
[05:59] <tkesler> only when xorg starts tho
[05:59] <tkesler> if i bail into recovery it doesn't flicker
[06:02] <jot_kaur> join ##parsers
[06:03] <tkesler> this is frustrating
[06:06] <yesyes> it seems my macbook is on fn lock how do i stop that
[06:07] <aeon-ltd> tkesler: have you tried switching gpu drivers?
[06:08] <tkesler> not sure exactly how to change it
[06:09] <yesyes> software and update
[06:09] <yesyes> and go into drivers
[06:09] <yesyes> :D
[06:09] <aeon-ltd> tkesler: uninstalling, then installing different or downgaded vers.
[06:10] <tkesler> no additional drivers available
[06:10] <aeon-ltd> tkesler: intel?
[06:10] <germanolins> hello
[06:12] <aeon-ltd> tkesler: the problem could be Xorg, when did this occur?
[06:16] <huifu> whtat
[06:17] <tkesler> aeon-ltd: for a while now.  i've upgraded to 14.10 and a new kernel.  same issue
[06:19] <IronY> dear #ubuntu, do you have google inbox invites
[06:23] <heath_> hello
[06:23] <cadmium_> hello
[06:23] <thesadpanda> Hi.
[06:23] <heath_> this brings me back
[06:24] <thesadpanda> How many people usually use this program?
[06:24] <heath_> first time me
[06:24] <cadmium_> what program? :)
[06:24] <aeon-ltd> tkesler: are you using unity or compiz? not using 3d rendering might help
[06:24] <heath_> 'unity
[06:24] <murlidhar> i want to fresh install my distro and want to back my terminal preferences ? how do i do that ?
[06:24] <cadmium_> is there a way to resize /boot while using the computeR?
[06:24] <murlidhar> backup*
[06:25] <heath_> whait what do you mean
[06:25] <murlidhar> i mean how to backup the terminal preferences ?
[06:25] <heath_> off load your terminal app on to a thumbstick
[06:26] <murlidhar> heath_: me ?
[06:26] <heath_> yeah
[06:26] <murlidhar> well how to do i do that ?
[06:26] <tkesler> aeon-ltd: unity
[06:26] <aeon-ltd> murlidhar: it could be stored in dot folders, also .bashrc and .Xdefaults
[06:27] <heath_> make a copy of your terminal
[06:27] <tkesler> aeon-ltd: worked fine if slow.  but newer kernels...
[06:27] <murlidhar>  aeon-ltd all the terminal preferences like profiles and stuff are backedup in .bashrc ? i guess not.
[06:28] <aeon-ltd> tkesler: if you have another DE or WM installed you could log out and try them see if it helps
[06:28] <aeon-ltd> murlidhar: look in dot folders or in /etc/ if they're global preferences
[06:29] <murlidhar> aeon-ltd: not global preferences . i just want the user settings backed up.
[06:30] <dharmit> murlidhar: ~/.gconf/apps/gnome-terminal/ (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=793500)
[06:30] <aeon-ltd> murlidhar: h
[06:31] <aeon-ltd> ^dot folders like i said, third time dude
[06:31] <murlidhar> aeon-ltd: ah okies. u meant the hidden folders ?
[06:31] <aeon-ltd> yes
[06:31] <murlidhar> i was confused. thanks
[06:31] <aeon-ltd> dot = .
[06:32] <murlidhar> ya now i get it . silly me. lol
[06:32] <murlidhar> ty dharmit
[06:32] <tkesler> aeon-ltd: i'll try thanks...gotta go...night!
[06:32] <aeon-ltd> ok
[06:32] <aeon-ltd> noct
[06:39] <a___> whoami
[06:44] <murlidhar> can anyone confirm if unity dodge window feature is working in the 14.10 ?
[06:44] <murlidhar> i won't be able to upgrade if it doesn't support the dodge feature.
[06:55] <murlidhar> is there any other way where i can hide unity launcher only when an app is maximised ?
[06:57] <bbryant> ok, so I've got another problem
[06:57] <bbryant> the google-chrome-stable launcher doesn't work
[06:57] <bbryant> and I don't know why
[06:57] <bbryant> I can launch it from the terminal just fine
[07:01] <bbryant> sigh
[07:01] <bbryant> I haven't used ubuntu in a year and it seems worse off now than it ever has been before
[07:16] <miandonmenmian> I have in my echo $PATH --> /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/sbin   however, my bins on /usr/bin are not found. How can i fix my env ?
[07:17] <bbryant> miandonmenmian: type "which your_binary"
[07:17] <bbryant> does it show up?
[07:17] <bbryant> it might be a permissions problem
[07:17] <bbryant> do your binaries have +x ?
[07:18] <speed_> hi
[07:32] <Sexbot> Any sex apps for ubuntu ?
[07:32] <bbryant> uh
[07:32] <bbryant> seriously?
[07:32] <Sexbot> Ah
[07:33] <Sexbot> Ah
[07:33] <Sexbot> Yes
[07:33] <bbryant> what would you call a sex app?
[07:33] <klew> there's one called blue waffle something, ask google for it
[07:33] <somsip> !o4o
[07:33] <bbryant> oh yea, that one is fun
[07:33] <bbryant> love me some blue waffle
[07:34] <bbryant> !CodeOfConduct
[07:35] <Sexbot> Ok ok
[07:37] <miandonmenmian> bbryant: which shows my app, ls -all shows something interesting lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root            19 Oct 14 13:33 which -> /bin/busybox.nosuid
[07:37] <miandonmenmian> that is the ->
[07:37] <miandonmenmian> is that a link ?
[07:37] <bbryant> miandonmenmian: one second
[07:38] <bbryant> symbolic or hard link
[07:38] <bbryant> probably symbolic
[07:38] <bbryant> so if which shows your app
[07:38] <bbryant> then it's detected inyour path
[07:38] <bbryant> the only other problem could be that it doesn't have the executable flag set on the binary itself
[07:38] <bbryant> check taht
[07:38] <miandonmenmian> -sh: /bin/myapp: not found
[07:38] <miandonmenmian> path i guess is right
[07:39] <miandonmenmian> ls -all is showing lrwxrwxrwx
[07:39] <bbryant> didn't you say it was in /usr/bin
[07:39] <bbryant> why are you trying /bin ?
[07:39] <miandonmenmian> isnt that the executable flag?
[07:39] <bbryant> you seemed ot be looking at a symbolic link there
[07:39] <bbryant> which isn't relevant at all
[07:40] <Ilhami> mouse doesnt work on Ubuntu VM
[07:40] <Ilhami> it doesnt display at all
[07:41] <miandonmenmian> bbryant: I'm not trying bin, /usr/bin is added on path, i dont know why is trying /bin
[07:41] <bbryant> miandonmenmian: I'll be right back, I have to run an errand real which\
[07:41] <bbryant> give me 10-15min
[07:41] <miandonmenmian> ok
[07:41] <bbryant> and if someone else hasn't solved your problem by then
[07:41] <bbryant> i'll be back to help
[07:41] <bbryant> I assure you this is something that can be solved pretty quickly
[07:41] <bbryant> so don't fret
[07:41] <Ilhami> bbryant, also solve mine :D
[07:42] <Ben64> miandonmenmian: what issue do you have
[07:43] <ahmad> Just got problem install Ubuntu desktop via USB drive
[07:43] <ahmad> It's say errno 5 input/output error
[07:43] <miandonmenmian> Ben64: seems like bash is trying to run my app from another folder in my PATH, and is stuck there
[07:43] <ahmad> Anyone can help me?
[07:43] <miandonmenmian> wondering if is a link problem, but its linking to the right one
[07:44] <Ben64> miandonmenmian: what is the output of "ls -l /path/to/your/app"
[07:45] <Ben64> ahmad: sounds like a bad disk or usb or something along those lines
[07:45] <ikonia> or the usb bus is resetting its self a lot
[07:45] <miandonmenmian> lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root             7 Oct 14 13:32 /usr/bin/myapp -> myapp-c
[07:45] <kotau> hey anyone have a link to wget java 7 or 8?
[07:46] <ikonia> miandonmenmian: you'll find it's linked against the wrong libraries
[07:46] <ikonia> (or missing libraries)
[07:46] <ikonia> miandonmenmian: why don't you give us the real example rather than "myapp"
[07:46] <Ben64> kotau: java is in the ubuntu repositories, if you'd like to use oracle java, you won't find much support for that here
[07:46] <kotau> having trouble getting to the download on my terminal server.
[07:49] <miandonmenmian> ikonia: the app itself is not a big deal. Was working fine an hour ago just before i played with PATH.
[07:49] <ikonia> miandonmenmian: the app is a big deal so we know what it expects, how it expects
[07:49] <miandonmenmian> after rebooting, no permanent PATH is set, the env seems to be messed up
[07:49] <ikonia> miandonmenmian: if its not a big deal - why don't you give us the real example and we can work it through
[07:50] <ahmad> Ben64: thanks, will try with another USB or cd
[07:52] <bbryant> miandonmenmian: yea, if you want the path to be modified each time your shell starts you have to manually make that happen
[07:52] <bbryant> modifying the variable in one session does not modify it for others
[07:53] <miandonmenmian> bbryant: what i was trying to do, is to add a /bin folder on my /home partition and add it to my PATH, not installing modules there, i know this is not good, just trying to get it this way
[07:54] <miandonmenmian> tried this: export PATH=/home/usr/bin:/opt/bin:/opt/sbin:/opt/usr/bin:/opt/usr/sbin
[07:54] <miandonmenmian> on my /etc/profile
[07:54] <miandonmenmian> but did not work well
[07:54] <ikonia> so that will never work
[07:54] <ikonia> as your missing out the key system paths
[07:54] <bbryant> ^^^
[07:54] <miandonmenmian> what are the key system paths?
[07:54] <miandonmenmian>  export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=   ?
[07:54] <bbryant> don't do it that way at all
[07:54] <bbryant> try this
[07:54] <ikonia> miandonmenmian: no
[07:54] <ikonia> miandonmenmian: this is why I'm asking for exact inforamtion
[07:54] <ikonia> rather than made up examples
[07:54] <bbryant> export PATH=/home/usr/bin:$PATH
[07:55] <ikonia> bbryant: that won't work
[07:55] <ikonia> his path is messed up
[07:55] <zykotick9> miandonmenmian: fyi, if you create ~/bin and log out and back in, by default (perhaps you've changed something?) it'll be in your PATH
[07:55] <ikonia> so it will just append a messed up path
[07:55] <bbryant> oh right
[07:55] <bbryant> he fucked it up
[07:55] <bbryant> you're right
[07:55] <ikonia> bbryant: tone down the language
[07:55] <bbryant> but if he had done that from the beginning....
[07:55] <ikonia> there is no need for it
[07:55] <bbryant> sorry, this is how I always talk on irc
[07:55] <ikonia> bbryant: please don't talk like that in this channel
[07:55] <bbryant> you don't have to repeat yourself
[07:55] <mdoge> yes, there maybe kids here
[07:56] <ikonia> miandonmenmian: log out and back in - then do as bbryant suggested with PATH=/home/user/bin:$PATH
[07:56] <ikonia> miandonmenmian: you'll probably find that works fine
[07:56] <Ben64> if ~/bin exists it is automagically added to PATH
[07:56] <ikonia> miandonmenmian: with reference to variables like ld_library_path, we'll need to know the apps
[07:57] <miandonmenmian> echo $PATH gives this /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/sbin
[07:57] <ikonia> Ben64: is that default in the ubuntu profile ?
[07:57] <Ben64> yep
[07:57] <ikonia> learn something new every day
[07:57] <ikonia> miandonmenmian: you're running ubuntu right ?
[07:57] <bbryant> oh that's cool Ben64
[07:57] <bbryant> i've always had to add that myself
[07:57] <bbryant> well, I also use ~/src/bin
[07:57] <bbryant> ~/src being all my development work
[07:58] <Ben64> ~/.profile:    # set PATH so it includes user's private bin if it exists   \n   if [ -d "$HOME/bin" ] ; then  \n PATH="$HOME/bin:$PATH"
[07:58] <miandonmenmian> what is the ld_library_path for?
[07:58] <bbryant> !codeofconduct
[07:58] <ikonia> very cool
[07:58] <ikonia> miandonmenmian: you're running ubuntu ?
[07:58] <miandonmenmian> ikonia: yes, but much has changed on my ubuntu haha
[07:58] <ikonia> miandonmenmian: what has changed ?
[07:58] <bbryant> ikonia: could you kindly point me to where the written rule is on language here?
[07:58] <miandonmenmian> not sure anymore
[07:59] <ikonia> !guidelines > bbryant
[07:59] <bbryant> thank you
[07:59] <ikonia> miandonmenmian: you know it's changed, but you don't know if it's changed ?
[07:59] <ikonia> miandonmenmian: I suggest logging out / back in (maybe a reboot) and just seeing if ~/bin is part of your path by default
[08:00] <miandonmenmian> ikonia: just wondering. #reset would not be same as log out?
[08:00] <bbryant> ikonia: the only reference I've found is when someone disagrees with an op not to use cursing
[08:00] <bbryant> I can't find a section relevant to me using it the way I did
[08:00] <miandonmenmian> i did rebooted several times, just to make sure, after changing PATH variables
[08:01] <ikonia> bbryant: just don't use bad langauge please.
[08:01] <bbryant> I'm just trying to be well read on the issue
[08:01] <bbryant> is this a request for me to follow the rules or just a personal request?
[08:01] <ikonia> right, so read the links and apply common sense
[08:01] <ikonia> bbryant: if you want to discuss it more please join #ubuntu-ops channel
[08:05] <bbryant> miandonmenmian: are you still having issues?
[08:05] <miandonmenmian> well, thanks a bunch. I'm getting a much better idea now
[08:05] <miandonmenmian> im still curious how ld_library_path works
[08:05] <miandonmenmian> i thought the binaries would be already linked, so not sure why need a library path
[08:05] <ikonia> miandonmenmian: you shouldn't need to worry about it
[08:06] <ikonia> but some minor things you do - hence why I keep asking you for specific real life problem, rather than made up examples
[08:09] <miandonmenmian> ikonia, i'm having issues with a couple of them, for instance vim
[08:09] <miandonmenmian> vi is found well, vim was not. now seems to be fixed
[08:10] <miandonmenmian> however, there is a problem with the link for one of the binary copies, just trying to figure out whats the problem
[08:10] <bbryant> ok, how are you modifying the path right now?
[08:10] <bbryant> could you show me that line of code?
[08:11] <miandonmenmian> -sh: /bin/vim: not found, which vim: /usr/bin/vim
[08:11] <miandonmenmian> however, if i do ./usr/bin/vim  no problem
[08:11] <EriC^^> sh?
[08:11] <bbryant> miandonmenmian: again, please show me how you're modifying path now please
[08:12] <miandonmenmian> EriC^^: this is the most confusing part
[08:12] <miandonmenmian> bbryant: not modified now. afaik. but i did tried with your suggestion, and works quite nice for other apps
[08:12] <bbryant> ok
[08:12] <bbryant> show me the content of $PATH
[08:12] <EriC^^> miandonmenmian: type echo $SHELL
[08:13] <miandonmenmian> echo $SHELL /bin/sh
[08:13] <EriC^^> sh doesn't use ~/.profile i think
[08:13] <bbryant> correct
[08:13] <EriC^^> :D
[08:13] <EriC^^> miandonmenmian: why are you using sh?
[08:14] <miandonmenmian> really?!
[08:14] <EriC^^> yeah
[08:14] <miandonmenmian> hah!
[08:14] <miandonmenmian> $PATH -sh: /home/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/sbin: not found
[08:14] <EriC^^> chsh -s /bin/bash
[08:14] <miandonmenmian> home path still added :P
[08:14] <EriC^^> that will change it to bash
[08:15] <bbryant> assuming bash is installed
[08:16] <pippo> salve
[08:16] <pippo> !list
[08:16] <miandonmenmian> im getting bash
[08:16] <Ben64> if you have ubuntu, you already have bash
[08:16] <Ben64> if you don't have ubuntu, you shouldn't be asking support questions here
[08:17] <miandonmenmian> had bash
[08:20] <PoNuts> godmorning
[08:21] <PoNuts> How to send a command to muiltiple linux servers (bash)
[08:22] <cfhowlett> PoNuts, ask in ##linux
[08:22] <PoNuts> Darn.. I'm trying to loggin get my nick OK:ed there.. ;)
[08:24] <Seveas> PoNuts: salt, pconsole, taktuk, capistrano...
[08:24] <PoNuts> Thx. I investigate..
[08:26] <miandonmenmian> well, nightmare is fixed with bash.. again thanks a bunch
[08:28] <ash`> PoNuts: you can use ssh?  For example: ssh user@server 'command' - see man ssh for an example.
[08:29] <Pluk> Hello, I am having some difficulty logging into Ubuntu after upgrading from Ubuntu 12 to Ubuntu 14, on a UEFI system. Is anyone here willing and able to help me? I have my pastecode from Boot Repair, it shows a lot of errors.
[08:29] <ash`> If you need it to run in the background, one way is to press CTRL + Z which will suspend the process and then run "bg" a command - this will run it in the background :)
[08:29] <ash`> PoNuts: ^
[08:29] <PoNuts> But ssh is to connect to one server.. Seveas did good search and I found the pssh which seeams to do the task txh
[08:30] <PoNuts> I guess (need to do more RTFM) that it connect to a list of your servers and run the commands similtanously like checking uptime
[08:31] <ash`> PoNuts: mmk. if it solves your problem - i would create a shell script but you know what problem you are solving :)
[08:31] <Seveas> PoNuts: pssh works too, but if you frequently need to run things on many machines, you really should look at salt.
[08:31] <PoNuts> Thx ash nice
[08:31] <PoNuts> Ill do
[08:33] <Pluk> Has anyone else here had experience with trying to log in to Ubuntu and getting "Failed to start session" instead of logging in?
[08:34] <ikonia> Pluk: what is the session it's referencing
[08:35] <Pluk> @ikonia: I am unsure what you mean, I am trying to log into my account after booting into Ubuntu, and I get the message "Failed to start session". If I mistype my password it says "Incorrect Password" so I know it's not a password problem.
[08:36] <Pluk> I did accidentally remove python (sudo apt-get remove python) before upgrading, and I've read since that that causes really, really bad things in Ubuntu
[08:37] <White_Cat> well
[08:37] <ikonia> Pluk yes, that will cause a lot of problems
[08:37] <White_Cat> maybe it will mayeb it wont
[08:37] <ikonia> Pluk: are you trying to login to the gui environment
[08:38] <Pluk> @ikonia: Yes, to the gui. When I try tty, it asks for my username and password. I have no idea what my username is though, and I have tried pretty much every username I have ever used anywhere.
[08:39] <ikonia> Pluk: go to the command line, and re-install python/check the X start up logs
[08:40] <EriC^> Pluk: hold shift while the pc boots
[08:40] <ikonia> Pluk: you must know your username - as you are telling me you are trying to login and it's giving you the failed to start session
[08:40] <ikonia> Pluk: so if you are logging in and getting that error - you known your username
[08:40] <aryo> #part
[08:40] <EriC^> press e over the ubuntu entry, add init=/bin/bash to the end of the kernel line ( Linux vmlinuz... )
[08:41] <Pluk> How do I go to the command line without logging in? I only know how to use the terminal, but ctrl+shift+t doesn't work. Eric, is that what shift does while booting?
[08:42] <EriC^> Pluk: ikonia is right, your username is the one showing in lightdm if that's what you're using
[08:43] <Pluk> I will try starting with bash, and then re-installing python from there. I'll report back when I know more, thanks for your help so far! :D
[08:43] <EriC^> hold on
[08:43] <EriC^> what do you mean starting with bash?
[08:43] <Pluk> Oh, I missed some
[08:43] <Pluk> yes alright
[08:43] <EriC^> the init=/bin/bash ?
[08:44] <Pluk> Uh, I mean adding init=/bin/bash to the boot entry
[08:44] <EriC^> if you do that, press ctrl+x to execute it, or f10
[08:44] <EriC^> when you get a root prompt you need to remount rw
[08:44] <ikonia> you don't need all that
[08:44] <ikonia> just use the recovery shell
[08:44] <ikonia> no need to change the init
[08:44] <EriC^> so type mount -o remount,rw /
[08:44] <ikonia> or just boot and interupt the X startup
[08:45] <Pluk> Also, when I try to login to Ubuntu, it only asks for a password, not a username. For my username is just shows my full name with spaces and special symbols etc, which proved not to be a username I can use in tty
[08:45] <EriC^> ikonia: the recovery shell asks for the password, but what do you mean by interrupting X?
[08:45] <ikonia> the recovery shell won't ask for a password unless you've set the root password
[08:46] <Pluk> I'm sorry, but I'm uncertain by what you mean with either recovery shell or interrupting X
[08:46] <EriC^> ikonia: it asks here, although i've not
[08:46] <EriC^> i put my user's pass and it gives me a prompt
[08:46] <Pluk> I think I know my root password though
[08:47] <Pluk> Shall I try in recovery mode using shift, first?
[08:47] <EriC^> yeah
[08:47] <Pluk> Alright, I'll be back after I've tried that. Thanks!
[08:47] <EriC^> if it says something like read only, press on enable networking
[08:47] <EriC^> it will remount as rw
[08:53] <tracyone> how to view a yuv file in ubuntu 14.04
[08:56] <CupOfCocoa> Hey guys, I am trying to change a value/line in a config file with sed. Unfortunately the value I want to set includes a
[08:57] <Pepe> Sal en la guía de tu ciudad. Visita tuinfomobile.com, lo mejor para tu negocio.
[08:57] <cfhowlett> !es | Pepe,
[08:58] <CupOfCocoa> Hey guys, I am trying to change a value/line in a config file with sed. Unfortunately the value I want to set includes a ' character and sed complains that this is invalid syntax. This is the current command I have: sed -ri "s/#(run_command) .*$/\1 = 'blah'/" config.conf Any ideas how to do this?
[08:58] <EriC^> CupOfCocoa: escape it with \
[08:59] <CupOfCocoa> EriC^: Tried that, still the same error
[08:59] <EriC^> CupOfCocoa: use @
[08:59] <EriC^> sed -i 's@bla@'
[08:59] <EriC^> sed -i 's@bla@blaaa@'
[08:59] <CupOfCocoa> Interesting so replace ' by @?
[08:59] <EriC^> that works if you're using a variable to replace stuff
[09:00] <EriC^> like 's@$var1@$var2@'
[09:00] <EriC^> ( whivh has chars which need escaping)
[09:00] <EriC^> CupOfCocoa: no, replace the "/" of sed with "@"
[09:01] <EriC^> CupOfCocoa: it will work without using variables, but if you have variables it's handy
[09:01] <EriC^> brb
[09:02] <JBudzNix> hi gang
[09:02] <JBudzNix> how is everyone?
[09:04] <CupOfCocoa> EriC^: Mhm okay so I tired sed -ri "s@#(run_command) .*$@\1 = 'blah'@" config.conf but now I get "unterminated s command" error :/
[09:09] <clumsy_bot> Are there any other methods of creating a LiveUSB without resorting to dd?
[09:09] <cfhowlett> clumsy_bot, startup-disk-creator or unetbootin
[09:09] <Sexbot> Ah
[09:10] <owen1> I 'Override software rendering list' and 'Enable WebGL' in chrome://flags but http://get.webgl.org say I don't have WebGL support. I also tried running chrome with --disable-gpu-watchdog but it doesn't help. Firefox runs WebGL just fine. I have the same issue with chromium-browser package (39.0.2171.65 Ubuntu 14.10) and also with chrome (39.0.2171.71). Any ideas?
[09:10] <clumsy_bot> cfhowlett: What about manual partitioning methods?
[09:10] <cfhowlett> clumsy_bot, limited but you can set some persistence memory aside with startup'
[09:11] <zyrex> test
[09:11] <clumsy_bot> cfhowlett: I was thinking of setting up a LiveUSB with the additional space still usable for storage.
[09:11] <cfhowlett> clumsy_bot, which is exactly what persistence does
[09:12] <clumsy_bot> cfhowlett: Usable outside/independent of the live environment?
[09:12] <cfhowlett> clumsy_bot, yep.
[09:12] <cfhowlett> clumsy_bot, you can even use it within the live environment
[09:13] <clumsy_bot> cfhowlett: Ah I see. I'll check it out then.
[09:13] <cfhowlett> !persistence | clumsy_bot
[09:13] <clumsy_bot> cfhowlett: Thank you.
[09:13] <cfhowlett> clumsy_bot, happy2help
[09:18] <Guest3183> Hello!
[09:18] <Guest3183> I need to know something about beaglebone black
[09:18] <Guest3183> is there someone who can help me
[09:18] <Guest3183> ?
[09:18] <CupOfCocoa> EriC^: Posted on stackoverflow now: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/27225097/change-value-in-config-file-that-contains-with-sed
[09:19] <b10s> hi2all
[09:20] <b10s> i have troubles with keyboard enter: so slow showing chars on display after i press keys
[09:20] <b10s> and sometimes some as loses
[09:20] <b10s> wtf?
[09:20] <cfhowlett> Guest3183, pretty sure you'll find more targetted support at http://beagleboard.org/Community/Forums/
[09:23] <fahad_IT> linux413
[09:27] <JBudzNix> anyone around for a quick chat about linux on netbooks? (in particular playing youtube videis)
[09:28] <Guest3183> cfhowlett, I have asked about this there but nobody have answered my question. This is a more diverse community. I was hoping to get my answer here.
[09:29] <hateball> !ask | JBudzNix
[09:30] <cfhowlett> Guest3183, I see a lot of raspberrry discussion but I had to look up "beagleboard" ...
[09:30] <EriC^> CupOfCocoa: you have to use 2 like 's@something@somethingelse@'
[09:31] <JBudzNix> i am currently running linuxlite on my netbook. i have previously ran windows 7.  I have found that almost regardless of OS that youtube videos struggle on netbook.
[09:31] <classe02> coucou
[09:31] <JBudzNix> is there any lightweight distributions that excel in particular with youtube?
[09:35] <cfhowlett> JBudzNix, course not.  distro = distro with different apps and looks.  what MIGHT be different are the default codecs.  you DID install restricted extras ... right?
[09:36] <JBudzNix> i will say no because i  dont recall seeing that during install.
[09:37] <cfhowlett> JBudzNix, netbook?  they still make those?  anyway, netbook typically means low ram and low-end gpu = limited media performance
[09:37] <JBudzNix> indeed. what i find strange though is that i can run HD videos fine within VLC (avi, mkv, etc)
[09:37] <cfhowlett> JBudzNix, suggest you install lubuntu and lubuntu-restricted-extras.  Linuxlite is not an ubuntu distro and is not supported here.
[09:37] <JBudzNix> yet, flash videos struggle immensely
[09:39] <JBudzNix> linuxlite is ubuntu based
[09:39] <cfhowlett> !flavors | JBudzNix,
[09:39] <cfhowlett> JBudzNix, these are supported.  if not on this list, not supported.
[09:40] <JBudzNix> okay sure. i understand the point you are making. however, im just merely looking for a bit of insight into some other lightweight options that might give me a bit better flash performance.
[09:41] <JBudzNix> you feel as though lubuntu might give me a bit better resource allowance?
[09:42] <cfhowlett> JBudzNix, lubuntu is optimized for legacy and low-specification hardware so ... netbook?
[09:43] <JBudzNix> yep. i understand that. however, ive seen that there is at least 20 distributions that are lightweight and 'tailored' to older systems / netbooks.
[09:43] <cfhowlett> JBudzNix, then you have a choice to make.
[09:43] <EriC^> JBudzNix: give lubuntu a shot
[09:44] <JBudzNix> just fielding some suggestions. i have no confusion over the limited capacity of the netbook.
[09:44] <JBudzNix> hi eric.
[09:44] <wafflej0ck_> JBudzNix: yeah regardless of the actual distro you choose that's really just choosing a set of packages and repositories to pull from and LXDE and XFCE are some of the graphically less intensive desktop environments
[09:44] <JBudzNix> thanks.
[09:45] <JBudzNix> right, thanks wafflej0ck_.
[09:49] <JBudzNix> thank you for your help cfhowlett
[09:49] <cfhowlett> JBudzNix, happy2help
[09:52] <mdoge> root         1  0.0  0.0 173536  4904 ?        Ss   07:26   0:02  /usr/lib/systemd/systemd
[09:53] <Pluk> Hey Eric and Ikonia, thanks for helping me earlier! I'm now working with a fully functional version of Trusty-Tahr
[09:53] <EriC^> Pluk: great! :)
[10:23] <bosnjak> hi all
[10:23] <bosnjak> how do I configure vino to accept VNC connections automatically?
[10:43] <Guest3183> cfhowlett, I have asked about this there but nobody have answered my question. This is a more diverse community. I was hoping to get my answer here.
[10:46] <b100s> how can i see lasy updates for distr and look at chagelogs?
[10:49] <EriC^> b100s: less /var/log/apt/history.log
[10:49] <michele993> how to view the source code of a program?
[10:49] <b100s> only last one?
[10:49] <b100s> EriC^,
[10:50] <b100s> what about last 10?
[10:50] <michele993> i write in terminale sudo apt-get source NAMEOFPROGRAM
[10:50] <EriC^> michele993: sudo apt-get source <package>
[10:50] <michele993> but i can't see?
[10:50] <michele993> yes
[10:50] <michele993> hi eric ^^
[10:50] <EriC^> michele993: it'll download it to your home dir
[10:50] <EriC^> hi michele993
[10:50] <michele993> aaah
[10:51] <michele993> ty
[10:51] <michele993> xD
[10:51] <EriC^> np
[10:51] <EriC^> ;D
[10:51] <cousteau> Hi, is moonlight available in repositories?  I don't seem to find it
[10:51] <michele993> what is a simple program to view?
[10:51] <EriC^> gedit i guess
[10:51] <michele993> ok
[10:51] <michele993> i try
[10:52] <cousteau> only for Lucid.  Was it removed for some reason?  (maybe I should ask this in ubuntu.devel)
[10:52] <cfhowlett> !info moonlight
[10:52] <michele993> it's in phyton?
[10:52] <metaspike> b100s, have a look at /var/log/dpkg.log for installation history
[10:52] <EriC^> b100s: you can use less /var/log/apt/history.log.1.gz etc.
[10:53] <metaspike> and that
[10:53] <cousteau> what's the channel for package maintenance?
[10:53] <b100s> is there way to discard last, say, 10 updates?
[10:54] <EriC^> b100s: get the name of the packages and purge them i guess
[10:54] <metaspike> or install the old versions directly from /var/cache/apt/archives
[10:56] <michele993> is in c++ O.O?
[10:56] <metaspike> infact if you go there, sort by date, you should see what's been installed recently... sort by name to get various versions, its a temporary cache though, so yeah...
[10:57] <b100s> thx, so long way to get old version
[10:58] <metaspike> you can just double click the .deb files in there to install them i think.
[10:59] <EriC^^> b100s: this will remove the last 10
[10:59] <EriC^^> cat dpkg.log.1 | awk '/status installed/ {print $5}' | tail -n10 |xargs sudo apt-get purge
[10:59] <febritecno> thx
[10:59] <febritecno> as
[11:00] <EriC^^> b100s: you might want to run it without the | xargs sudo ... to see what they are first
[11:00] <cfhowlett> what command to list installed packages sorted by install date?  dpkg ... something IIRC
[11:00] <metaspike> n1 EriC^^
[11:00] <EriC^^> b100s: it's dpkg.log , not dpkg.log.1
[11:00] <b100s> EriC^^, thx a lot
[11:01] <EriC^^> no problem
[11:02] <metaspike> try not to uninstall grub or something heh...
[11:02] <Kyoshiro`> hey, I heard ubuntu decided to follow debian on systemd but it was a bit forced by "upstream" change to systemd, is it true ? are projects like devuan an alternative ?
[11:03] <ikonia> Kyoshiro`: ubuntu will move to systemd within the next few releases,
[11:03] <Kyoshiro`> ok ^^
[11:05] <metaspike> ubuntu is derived from debian, so it's pretty much unavoidable
[11:05] <Kyoshiro`> yeah it's understandable, but since there are projects "forking" debian to remove systemd maybe it could be a way to avoid it :)
[11:06] <ikonia> Kyoshiro`: none of that is anything to do with ubuntu though
[11:06] <blackyboy> how can i setup a nfs server with firewall, trying from morning onwards still not get success
[11:06] <ikonia> ubuntu pulls from debian
[11:06] <cfhowlett> !server | blackyboy,
[11:07] <blackyboy> cfhowlett: i'm trying in ubuntu server only
[11:07] <ikonia> blackyboy: what's the actual problem
[11:07] <vlt> Hello. It’s 2014 – so what package do I want to use for basic video editing? I have several different sources (1280p/720p h.264, DV ...), want to create (sub)titles and edit audio levels. Any idea?
[11:07] <cfhowlett> blackyboy, thus my suggestion to ask the server channel but see ikonia ...
[11:08] <cfhowlett> vlt, so many options ... openshot is a decent starting point
[11:08] <seriousscandinav> vlt: I have used openshot for editing video. Don't do it a lot, but it seems to work.
[11:08] <cfhowlett> vlt, for subtitles, install subtitle editor
[11:08] <blackyboy> ikonia: i have iptables and nfs can't mount while the iptables running , if i flush i can get the nfs share by running showmount -e xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
[11:08] <vlt> cfhowlett: Thank you :-)
[11:08] <el3> Hello, I got an apple core storage partition I cannot boot on. So I try the ubuntu live usb, and see if I can mount it and backup the files. Any here got experience with this?
[11:09] <vlt> seriousscandinav: You too.
[11:09] <ikonia> blackyboy: so iptables is blocking traffic then
[11:09] <ikonia> blackyboy: document what ports/protocols nfs needs, then map it to your iptables rules
[11:09] <cfhowlett> vlt, happy to help.  make it easy: sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-video and see #ubuntustudio
[11:09] <ikonia> blackyboy: you'll soon find the conflict
[11:09] <blackyboy> ikonia: yes... And  while i dont want to use the nfs default ports
[11:09] <ikonia> blackyboy: ok, so you know the ports you need then
[11:10] <ikonia> blackyboy: so you should be able to find the conflict
[11:10] <ikonia> blackyboy: I suspect you've failed to configure NFS / associated services to use different ports
[11:10] <ikonia> blackyboy: so they will probably still be running on the default ports
[11:10] <ikonia> changing the NFS ports is not something that is recommended.
[11:10] <ikonia> I see no value in doing that
[11:10] <blackyboy> yes currently by default it use 111 and 2049
[11:10] <metaspike> el3, you probably need hfs packages, then mount -t hfs /dev/sdx /mnt/meh
[11:11] <metaspike> but im guessing.
[11:11] <b100s> EriC^^,  looks like i cant distinguish packages installed by hand from packages came with updates
[11:12] <alumnat> Hi
[11:12] <bbryant> Hi
[11:12] <bbryant> Need help?
[11:12] <metaspike> el3, gparted should tell you what the partition type is
[11:13] <hxm> hello, how can i fix this? W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-security/multiverse/binary-armel/Packages  404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.14 80]
[11:13] <el3> metaspike, Gparted shows warning only
[11:13] <hxm> looks like my proccessor is missing
[11:13] <blackyboy> Were is ikonia
[11:13] <metaspike> el3, even when you choose a disk?
[11:13] <bbryant> Hxm, sudo apt-get update
[11:14] <hxm> using apt-get update is when i get that error
[11:14] <hxm> my sources.list is this deb http://ubuntu.mirrors.ovh.net/ftp.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty main restricted universe
[11:14] <el3> metaspike, sry filesystem unknown. the recovery partition is hfs+
[11:14] <bbryant> Uhh ok, I'll be back to apc after this cigarette
[11:14] <bbryant> I can help more then
[11:14] <blackyboy> ikonia: http://h20564.www2.hp.com/hpsc/doc/public/display?DocLang=en&docId=mmr_kc-0110637&docLocale=en_US  i have followed this documentation to change the default port to some other port.
[11:15] <ikonia> blackyboy: why are you changing the default ports ?
[11:16] <EriC^^> b100s: ok, i'd recommend cat /var/log/apt/history.log
[11:16] <blackyboy> ikonia: by default it will change the random ports
[11:16] <el3> metaspike, but it should also be hfs
[11:16] <EriC^^> b100s: it will mention the command run and the installed packages, use zcat /var/log/apt/history.log.1.gz if history.log is empty
[11:16] <ikonia> blackyboy: thats only portmapper
[11:16] <ikonia> and that will feed into a port range
[11:17] <blackyboy> oh i see
[11:17] <ikonia> blackyboy: I don't get what you are actually having as a problem
[11:17] <ikonia> blackyboy: you have configured nfs to use specific ports
[11:17] <ikonia> configure those tcp/udp ports on your firewall
[11:17] <ikonia> if it doesn't work - look for conflicts
[11:17] <blackyboy> Then if i use to add the 111 from my nfs server its possible to access from client ?
[11:18] <ikonia> blackyboy: is this an internal network ?
[11:18] <ikonia> or on the internet ?
[11:18] <blackyboy> My boss ask me not to use UDP
[11:18] <blackyboy> nope its internet
[11:18] <ikonia> then you shouldn't be using NFS
[11:18] <ikonia> it's that simple
[11:18] <blackyboy> hmm
[11:18] <Guest50291> Ubuntu  14.04 not able boot after restoring resolver state , please help how I can fix it .
[11:19] <ikonia> Guest50291: restoring resolver state ?
[11:19] <blackyboy> ikonia: actually now i have 7 VPS server, and i want to write 3 servers file to one of the file server that my requirement
[11:19] <ikonia> blackyboy: that doesn't change what I said
[11:19] <ikonia> you're free to ignore advice
[11:20] <blackyboy> ikonia: fine thanks for spending your precious time...
[11:20] <ikonia> blackyboy: if they are VPS, use an internal network that doesn't go over the internet
[11:20] <ikonia> then you don't need to firewall NFS
[11:20] <ikonia> and you can have a stable connection
[11:22] <blackyboy> ikonia: good idea, How can i setup that internal network between different IPs of my all 7 VPS
[11:22] <ikonia> blackyboy: depends on the hypervisor
[11:23] <blackyboy> ikonia: oh no its shared host, not a dedicated
[11:23] <ikonia> blackyboy: again, that doesn't change what I said
[11:23] <blackyboy> lol
[11:23] <ikonia> blackyboy: to setup networks between hosts, it depends on the hypervisor
[11:23] <ikonia> between guests I should say
[11:23] <blackyboy> ok let me try
[11:24] <Guest96637> Gnu boot is not loading resolving the state , I am using webirc using iPhone so it exits any time .. Sorry Ubuntu 14.10
[11:24] <ikonia> gnu boot ?
[11:24] <ikonia> what is gnu boot ?
[11:25] <bbryant1> ok, who was it that had a question about a 404 error with apt-get upgrade?
[11:25] <Guest96637> Boot loading.. My login screen is not coming .. It is halting in boot process
[11:25] <ikonia> Guest96637: what point in the boot process does it halt at ?
[11:26] <Guest96637> Restoring resolver state ...
[11:27] <ikonia> Guest96637: I've never seen that warning before, is this grub ?
[11:27] <bbryant1> Guest96637: did you just upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04 ?
[11:27] <m4g0g> hi
[11:28] <bbryant1> hi m4g0g
[11:29] <Guest96637> No . When Ubuntu starts there are 5 dots that change color to show process on main screen.. I just press esc and it shows the background. Like starting MySQL server ok .. Then it doesn't proceed further restoring resolver state
[11:30] <bbryant1> Guest96637: did you just upgrade frmo 12.04 to 14.04?
[11:30] <m4g0g> I have ubuntu livecd and I need to customize it. One of the customization point - enable dhcp as default connection method. I write in /etc/network/interfaces lines for dhcp connection for eth0, build new livecd and on livecd run this file rewrites with lo lines and I can't connecto to network by default. Can you help me? I am not ubuntu user
[11:30] <ikonia> m4g0g ubuntu CD has dhcp enabled by default
[11:31] <ikonia> m4g0g: you don't use the interfaces
[11:31] <Guest96637> I ungraded a month ago.. In evening it's power off .. Didn't work I think I will try in early after some sleep and but also it is not working
[11:31] <ikonia> you use network maanger
[11:31] <bbryant1> Guest96637: ok, so the ubuntu forums has a post about this problem
[11:31] <bbryant1> it appears the following my fix it: sudo su -c "dpkg --configure -a && shutdown -r now"
[11:31] <bbryant1> try that and get back to me
[11:32] <m4g0g> ikonia: my ubuntu doesn't use it by default. (
[11:32] <bbryant1> source: http://askubuntu.com/questions/478205/upgraded-12-04-to-14-04-splash-gets-stuck-at-restoring-resolver-state
[11:32] <ikonia> m4g0g then you are not using ubuntu
[11:32] <ikonia> m4g0g: the ubuntu cd has it by default
[11:32] <bbryant1> wait
[11:32] <bbryant1> which version of the ubuntu cd?
[11:32] <ikonia> they all have it by default
[11:32] <Guest96637> Can please pass the link I using my phone for irc .. Don't have anything else to access internet
[11:32] <bbryant1> if it's 6.04 or something, that could be your problem
[11:32] <m4g0g> backbox
[11:32] <ikonia> m4g0g: thats not ubuntu
[11:32] <ikonia> m4g0g: thats not supported here
[11:32] <bbryant1> Guest96637: I gave you the command and the link to where I got the idea from
[11:33] <bbryant1> what else do you want?
[11:33] <m4g0g> uname -a show that this is ubuntu
[11:33] <ikonia> m4g0g: it's not ubuntu
[11:33] <ikonia> m4g0g: it has it's own support resources/projects
[11:35] <rpack> I was checking Ubuntu Cloud's page and I can read "the first 10 machines are free". Does this refer to physical machines, VMs or what exactly is the limitation?
[11:35] <bbryant1> virtual machines I'm certainm
[11:37] <Guest96637> It works I have broken package I fix using Avanced options now it is working thanks
[11:37] <bbryant1> ok have a good one
[11:38] <rpack> Fair enough, thanks... now will try to find a pricing list
[11:38] <Ravisankar> Hi
[11:38] <Ravisankar> I am new to Xubuntu
[11:38] <bbryant1> what up Ravisankar
[11:38] <bbryant1> how can we help you today?
[11:38] <Ravisankar> I just installed Xubuntu along with Windows XP
[11:38] <bbryant1> one of those is a lot better than the other
[11:39] <bbryant1> i'll let you decide which
[11:39] <Ravisankar> it seems by mistake I chose wrong drive for boot loader partition
[11:39] <cfhowlett> bbryant, no we'll let YOU decide.  your box, your choice.  don't be lazy.  use it and see for yourself.
[11:40] <bbryant1> cfhowlett: that's ...what I just said?
[11:40] <bbryant1> so I completely agree
[11:40] <Ravisankar> i read the ubutu question
[11:40] <Ravisankar> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub/+question/67858
[11:40] <Ravisankar> but it is not helping me
[11:40] <Ravisankar> how to change the boot loader
[11:40] <bbryant1> uh, are you using 8.10 ?
[11:40] <Ravisankar> latest LTS
[11:41] <Ravisankar> 14.04 i think
[11:41] <bbryant1> ok
[11:41] <bbryant1> gparted
[11:41] <bbryant1> that's what you want to look into
[11:41] <bbryant1> that'll allow you to toggle the bootable flag for individual partitions
[11:41] <bbryant1> and you can change it to the one that's applicable to your setup
[11:41] <ikonia> the bootable flag does nothing
[11:41] <bbryant1> he said that was his problem
[11:41] <bbryant1> maybe I'm confused
[11:41] <Ravisankar> could you explain it lit bit elaborate
[11:42] <ikonia> bbryant1: I didn't see him say that
[11:42] <ikonia> bbryant1: he said he'd installed it to the wrong partition
[11:42] <bbryant1> right, maybe I'm confused
[11:42] <bbryant1> oh
[11:42] <bbryant1> well then
[11:42] <ikonia> wrong drive sorry
[11:42] <Ravisankar> i installed the OS in hda7
[11:42] <Ravisankar> and i chose boot loader partion as hda7
[11:42] <ikonia> raviede: there is no such disk as hd7
[11:42] <ikonia> hda7
[11:42] <ikonia> hda device names have not been used in a LONG time
[11:43] <Ravisankar> my system is 10 year old
[11:43] <ikonia> Ravisankar: what is the EXACT operating system version
[11:43] <bbryant1> he said 14.04
[11:43] <Ravisankar> yes
[11:43] <ikonia> bbryant1: let him answer please
[11:43] <bbryant1> he already did
[11:43] <Ravisankar> yes Xubuntu 14.04 LTS
[11:43] <bbryant1> but ok
[11:44] <ikonia> Ravisankar: then it is not a 10 year old OS
[11:44] <bbryant1> he said his computer was 10 years old
[11:44] <ikonia> Ravisankar: ubuntu 14.04 will not use device identifiers as hd7
[11:44] <bbryant1> not his os
[11:44] <ikonia> bbryant1: stop
[11:44] <Ravisankar> i said my machine
[11:44] <ikonia> Ravisankar: and it is your OS that controls the device names
[11:44] <ikonia> Ravisankar: so there should not be a device called hda7
[11:44] <hojgaard> I am trying to get preseed to work without overwriting my /etc/network/interfaces.. Does anyone know how i can copy from late_command which is chrooted into /target to outside the chroot. I want to copy /target/etc/network/interfaces to /etc/network/interfaces..
[11:45] <Ravisankar> grub> setup (hd0)  Checking if "/boot/grub/stage1" exists... no  Checking if "/grub/stage1" exists... no  Error 15: File not found  grub> find /vmlinuz  (hd0,7)  grub> setup (hd0)  Checking if "/boot/grub/stage1" exists... no  Checking if "/grub/stage1" exists... no  Error 15: File not found  grub> find /sbin/init  (hd0,7)  grub>
[11:45] <ikonia> Ravisankar: those instructions are not for 14.04
[11:45] <ikonia> Ravisankar: where are you getting those instructions from ?
[11:45] <Ravisankar> oh ok
[11:46] <Ravisankar> from that website
[11:46] <bbryant1> the instructions are for 8.10
[11:46] <Ravisankar> launchpad
[11:46] <bbryant1> I can link you to what he linked earlier
[11:46] <ikonia> they are for the wrong OS
[11:46] <bbryant1> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub/+question/67858
[11:46] <Ravisankar> ok, can you guide me for the correct one
[11:46] <ikonia> !Grub2 | Ravisankar
[11:49] <mohsen-rashidi> is it possible to install openjdk 8 in ubuntu 13.10/
[11:49] <mohsen-rashidi> ?
[11:49] <ikonia> 13.10 is dead, so not from any ubuntu repo
[11:50] <bbryant1> what happened to 13.10? (haven't kept up with ubuntu for over a year, which is a big reason for me hanging around)
[11:50] <ikonia> its EOL
[11:50] <ikonia> just expired, nothing more
[11:50] <bbryant1> oh alright
[11:51] <bbryant1> 1 year til EOL for non-LTS?
[11:51] <mohsen-rashidi> ikonia: i know it`s dead and don`t want it for own use.
[11:51] <k1l_> bbryant1: if you dont want to upgrade all 6 months stick with the LTS version. which is 12.04 or 14.04
[11:51] <seriousscandinav> Non-LTS releases have 9 month support.
[11:51] <k1l_> bbryant1: no. 9 months
[11:51] <bbryant1> ok
[11:51] <bbryant1> yea, I always go with LTS for that reason
[11:51] <bbryant1> got 14.04 right now
[11:51] <mohsen-rashidi> it should be installed manually?
[11:51] <k1l_> mohsen-rashidi: we dont support running eol releases. so you are on your own there if you think its clever to run 13.10
[11:59] <xc44> hi
[12:02] <Rory> I need a recommendation for a simple, lightweight, preferabely GTK-based (so not VLC) player for an online radio stream. The most important feature is that I should receive a notify-osd notification upon track stage
[12:02] <olegon-ru> hello... excuse me, but how to completely replace suspend by hibernate? I need to hibernate netbook after period of inactivity
[12:03] <Rory> deadbeef and aqualung are nice, but they can't do the notification thing
[12:03] <metaspike> im using audacious at the moment...
[12:03] <olegon-ru> /etc/systemd/logind.conf IdleAction=hibernate
[12:03] <olegon-ru> IdleActionSec=20min
[12:03] <olegon-ru> not work :( Computer hibernate at critical charge level
[12:08] <Rory> metaspike: Perfect! Close to tray, simple and GTK based, nice interface.
[12:08] <chrisss123456> hey guys, i have a simple issue with workspaces: i'd like to make alt-gr + arrow keys the shortcut, but ubuntu doesnt recognize the alt-gr key... can anyone help?
[12:12] <chrisss123456> just so there's some info, if i run xev in terminal and press alt-gr i get this: KeyRelease event, serial 37, synthetic NO, window 0x5200001,
[12:12] <chrisss123456>     root 0x9e, subw 0x0, time 8325248, (371,-153), root:(1395,361),
[12:12] <chrisss123456>     state 0x90, keycode 108 (keysym 0xfe03, ISO_Level3_Shift), same_screen YES,
[12:12] <chrisss123456>     XKeysymToKeycode returns keycode: 92
[12:12] <chrisss123456>     XLookupString gives 0 bytes:
[12:12] <chrisss123456>     XFilterEvent returns: False
[12:12] <unopaste> chrisss123456 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[12:13] <ubnew> Does anyone know how to change the brightness on ubuntu 12.04 at Xorg ?
[12:14] <chrisss123456> anyone here?
[12:14] <fidel_> chrisss123456: there is always someone online in this channel - so yes ;)
[12:15] <chrisss123456> fidel_: well thats good :P can you help me out a little? i feel like its a really simple issue
[12:16] <fidel_> !ask | chrisss123456
[12:18] <chrisss123456> fidel_: i shall wait then, and rephrase: i have a simple issue with workspaces: i'd like to make alt-gr + arrow keys the shortcut, but ubuntu doesnt recognize the alt-gr key. i ran xev to see the input from the keyboard for the key and i get this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/9329670/
[12:20] <ubnew> Anyone have experience on Ati driver configuration ?
[12:21] <ubnew> http://fpaste.org/155449/35823141/ my error log
[12:21] <mikul> Does anyone have deb files or ppa for clownfish for skype?  there website seams to be down and i kinda need it
[12:25] <bbryant1> how do I increase my number of screens?
[12:27] <bazhang> bbryant1, did you mean workspaces?
[12:27] <seriousscandinav> bbryant1: do you mean virtual desktops or physical screens?
[12:27] <bbryant1> I do
[12:27] <bbryant1> workspaces
[12:27] <bbryant1> I couldn't remember the word
[12:27] <bbryant1> my bad
[12:27] <bazhang> bbryant1, using unity, gnome-shell or what
[12:27] <bbryant1> standard install of 14.04
[12:27] <bbryant1> whatever is default
[12:27] <bbryant1> is what I have
[12:27] <bbryant1> isntalled it yesterday
[12:27] <bazhang> thats unity
[12:28] <bbryant1> ok
[12:28] <seriousscandinav> If you use Unity i would reccomend you download unity tweak and use that.
[12:28] <bbryant1> ok
[12:28] <bazhang> !info unity-tweak-tool
[12:28] <seriousscandinav> Unity tweak allows you to change your number of workspaces.
[12:29] <bbryant1> seriousscandinav: and now I have 4 workspaces
[12:29] <bbryant1> thank you
[12:29] <seriousscandinav> bbryant: Awesome! I love virtual workspaces.
[12:31] <bbryant1> I do too
[12:38] <marz> I'm trying to add a custom .service to systemd, However, I'm getting a code=exited, status=1/FAILURE, where can I look up the flags that I can use with ExecStart? like -D and -c
[12:39] <masterkorp> hello
[12:40] <masterkorp> How do i tell start-stop-daemon to create a fork of the process ?
[12:40] <masterkorp> -b ?
[12:41] <bbryant1> so quick question, where in the settings is the setting for dimming the screen
[12:42] <bbryant1> and at waht interval
[12:42] <bbryant1> does that make sense?
[12:42] <seriousscandinav> You can dim the screen in the brightness and lock settings.
[12:43] <bbryant1> thanks
[12:43] <bbryant1> sorry, stupid question
[12:43] <seriousscandinav> there are no stupid questions
[12:47] <marz> Has anyone tried adding service in systemd?
[12:49] <solsTiCe> I don't thin ubuntu use systemd yet
[12:49] <seriousscandinav> Current versions of Ubuntu uses Upstart, but systemd is coming.
[12:50] <marz> seriousscandinav: are you familar with systemd anyhow?
[12:51] <seriousscandinav> No, i am not. I think visiting the IRC-channel of a distro using it would give you more of a chance to get to know it.
[12:52] <solsTiCe> but I wonder why is there a systemd package instlled anyway ?
[12:52] <ikonia> solsTiCe: it needs the minimal stuff for udev
[12:52] <Ajkaro> solsTiCe: it needs the minimal stuff for udev
[12:52] <niko> .
[12:52] <Ajkaro> .
[12:52] <ikonia> Ajkaro: ?
[12:52] <k1l_> because some parts of systemd were used anyway.
[12:52] <Ajkaro> Ajkaro: ?
[12:52] <Ajkaro> because some parts of systemd were used anyway.
[12:53] <solsTiCe> we have a parrot ?
[12:53] <mdoge> we have a parrot ?
[12:55] <super> hii
[12:55] <super> anyone
[12:55] <seriousscandinav> hi super
[12:55] <super> What does the blinking led on CPU box  indicate ??
[12:56] <ubnew> Anyone have experience on Ati driver configuration ?
[12:56] <ubnew> http://fpaste.org/155449/35823141/ my error log
[12:56] <super> seriousscandinav, does this indicate a RAM usage or CPU usage??
[12:57] <k1l_> .
[12:57] <Ajkaro> .
[12:57] <seriousscandinav> super: I'm not sure what you are refering to, is it a hardware thing?
[12:57] <super> seriousscandinav :Yes
[12:58] <seriousscandinav> I think a blinking light on a desktop generally means that the CPU is working on something.
[12:58] <solsTiCe> the hdd you mean
[12:58] <bazhang> try ##hardware super
[12:58] <seriousscandinav> Probably
[12:59] <super> seriousscandinav :There is a led above power indicator.Which blinks continuosly when some script is processed in my browser causing the system to hang
[13:00] <sacarlson> I can't seem to get any sound out of ZynAddSubFX synth that goes to jackd.  jackd seems to be working as I can hear vlc play music to it.  ZynAddSubFX looks to be running ok when I hit a key it shows displaying output but just no sound is hurd
[13:00] <super> I dont know if it indicates a HDD usage or RAM or Processor
[13:00] <seriousscandinav> super: I would go with bazhangs suggestion.
[13:00] <solsTiCe> on all pc box it's generally hdd activty
[13:01] <super> solsTiCe : Hmm..There is a led above power indicator.Which blinks continuosly when some script is processed in my browser causing the system to hang
[13:02] <super> bazhang :thanks...for suggestion
[13:05] <sacarlson> opps never mind,  I just had the connect line from ZynAddSubFX to system audio output in jackd in the wrong location.  most apps connect them self so I just failed to check
[13:05] <Osenpai> hi guys, is possible to restore original permissions on / ?
[13:06] <metaspike> no
[13:07] <super> Hey anyone can give me a hardware prob channel?? other than ##hardware.Its not working.
[13:08] <metaspike> super, you will need to look up manufacture supplied troubleshooting codes.
[13:08] <metaspike> it could mean bad ram, cpu, mobo...
[13:08] <Osenpai> metaspike, Can I to try this? http://hyperlogos.org/page/Restoring-Permissions-Debian-System
[13:08] <khussein78> I did latest updates on ubuntu 14.04 and after restarting my PC, when I type my login nothing appear, unity is not working,
[13:09] <mahem1_> I know, off topic, but would anyone know of a way to preview an ova file _without_ actually virtualization? (vbox, etc)
[13:09] <mahem1_> ^ Like just to see settings and filesystem structures and stuff.
[13:11] <super> metaspike :My PC components are 5 yr old except HDD.Is their any software to point the exact component?
[13:11] <metaspike> Osenpai, that will reinstall all the packages. better to reinstall
[13:11] <metaspike> the OS
[13:11] <Osenpai> I can't reinstall OS at this moment :(
[13:11] <metaspike> super, does it boot?
[13:12] <khussein78> when do unity --replace , it stuck at compiz (core) starting plugin : session
[13:12] <khussein78> any ideas
[13:12] <metaspike> Osenpai, well you can try it, report back if it works I guess...
[13:12] <EriC^^> khussein78: unity --replace is deprecated i think
[13:12] <super> metaspike :Its all fine except it hangs sometime.Like when copying.Especially when scripts are working on Webpages.
[13:12] <Osenpai> metaspike, Okay, I will try here, thanks for the help
[13:12] <EriC^^> khussein78: are you trying to reset unity?
[13:13] <khussein78> EriC^^,  yes
[13:13] <EriC^^> khussein78: type setsid unity
[13:13] <khussein78> EriC^^,  I tried many options reinstalling unity
[13:13] <EriC^^> khussein78: what's the problem?
[13:14] <khussein78> EriC^^,  after installing latest updates unity not working, no desktop after enter username and password
[13:14] <metaspike> super, hangs? you could memtest, badblocks, smartctl, hddtemp, lm-sensor your way to the issue
[13:14] <super> metaspike :these are terminal commands??
[13:15] <super> metaspike :I am guessing its a HDD issue?hddtempwould do it?
[13:15] <metaspike> super, yep. i'm assuming hardware fault... run from a live cd and if it still hangs, probably is.
[13:15] <EriC^^> khussein78: did you try the guest account?
[13:16] <khussein78> EriC^^,  yes same problem
[13:16] <super> metaspike : nice idea..will run from live CD..thanx
[13:16] <EriC^^> khussein78: di you try an earlier kernel?
[13:16] <khussein78> EriC^^,  yes also same problem
[13:16] <metaspike> super, these tools test various hardware components, memtest = ram, badblocks = hdd sectors, smartctl = hdd physical checks, lm-sensors, thermal readings..
[13:17] <super> metaspike,any command for processor test
[13:17] <BluesKaj_> 'Morning folks
[13:18] <super> metaspike ,  any command for processor test
[13:18] <super> BluesKaj_ : Its night in Asia.
[13:19] <metaspike> super, lm-senors will give you cpu temp, you can trash it with an infinite loop 'while [[ true ]] do; do : ; done;' and see how high the temp gets
[13:19] <metaspike> lm-sensors*
[13:19] <metaspike> sorry, while true ; do : ; done
[13:19] <BluesKaj_> super, well it's morning in Canada
[13:20] <metaspike> probably a better way to stress test cpu.. i dunno.
[13:20] <super> metaspike : Hey i am new to xubuntu,where should i type those commands?Terminal?
[13:24] <metaspike> super, put this into terminal 'sudo apt-get install gsmartcontrol & sudo gsmartcontrol'
[13:24] <SCHAAP137> make it a double &
[13:24] <metaspike> 'sudo apt-get install gsmartcontrol && sudo gsmartcontrol'
[13:24] <SCHAAP137> this will install the application, and afterwards start it using sudo
[13:24] <super> OK
[13:25] <metaspike> memtest you run from the first boot menu, that's another good an easy one for hw diagnosis
[13:26] <acmeraptor> warning. memtest can take forever to finish :)
[13:27] <Ben64> memtest never finishes
[13:27] <super> metaspike : I did that ,the 2 min and 5 min .It showed no errors.
[13:27] <acmeraptor> lol
[13:27] <metaspike> i managed to isolate a dodgy ram stick with memtest, took ages though, yeh
[13:28] <metaspike> gsmartcontrol, pick a disk and look for warning flags (red)...
[13:29] <metaspike> accurately detected my windows thrashed disk has a mechanical fault, can't complain.
[13:30] <metaspike> pulled it out and put it into le' bin
[13:30] <acmeraptor> disc platters are effective bird deterrents.  just ask my grandma, recycle bro! :p
[13:31] <super> I am doing the conveyance test.5 min version.
[13:31] <metaspike> apparently the magnets are pretty cool if you get enough of them :)
[13:33] <metaspike> i dunno... i just want to push a button that runs all these diags for me and says, ' there's the problem! ' ... one day
[13:33] <acmeraptor> dude i have 20 or so drive magnets i have collected over my *extended years.  they make for great refrigerator pinups
[13:35] <acmeraptor> oh that jazz wont happen until yer in the 23'rd century star trek universe. and even then you'd have to run a level 1 diagnostic
[13:35] <super> Hey all no errors in results of conveyance test.
[13:35] <acmeraptor> level 3 won't cut it.
[13:35] <metaspike> it should say ' diagnosis complete, all systems nominal ' in a sexy female voice too.
[13:35] <acmeraptor> nice! @super
[13:36] <acmeraptor> rory, you've changed dude!
[13:37] <super> acmeraptor :But in error logs its showing "ATA Error Count: 5"
[13:37] <metaspike> super, did you try the gsmart line i gave you earlier?
[13:38] <super> metaspike :no..ok trying
[13:39] <acmeraptor> @super my experience is super limited. i came here for help but just haven't asked yet.
[13:40] <teward> acmeraptor: then ask?
[13:40] <acmeraptor> i don't know if it's even possible @teward
[13:41] <super> metaspike :i used "sudo gsmartcontrol"
[13:41] <acmeraptor> i have a printer that can share files via wifi. but i want to put them on a nas drive
[13:41] <acmeraptor> the nas being a western digital tv hub
[13:42] <metaspike> super, now click on your disk
[13:42] <super> metaspike :I did that and performed the conveyance test
[13:42] <teward> acmeraptor: the WD TV device isn't really a NAS on its own...
[13:42] <ryt_> clear
[13:43] <teward> acmeraptor: it streams from other storage units, really
[13:43] <metaspike> super, go to the attributes tab
[13:43] <ryt_> hi
[13:43] <rickardo1> Which is the easisest way to setup up a simple vpn service on my ubuntu 14.04 server. I want all of my client computer web traffic passed through this connection.
[13:44] <metaspike> raw value of seek error rate... spin up retry count, should be zero.
[13:44] <super> metaspike :Then??
[13:44] <acmeraptor> i know it's not truly a nas. but i'm curious if it can act as one.  for my purposes so far it's working great
[13:44] <metaspike> are they?
[13:44] <MrElendig> rickardo1: openvpn
[13:44] <teward> acmeraptor: it may store the information then in its own media library, but that's its own issue.  i think you'll need a more general support medium than the Ubuntu chat to discuss fixing a non-Ubuntu device to act as a NAS if even possible
[13:45] <teward> acmeraptor: your issue is not actually Ubuntu, in the sense that you want to hook a printer to a NAS and neither are Ubuntu... you'll need either special forums or a different IRC channel, maybe a hardware discussion/support channel
[13:45] <super> the failed section shows "never" for each entity
[13:45] <teward> s/NAS/pseudo-NAS/
[13:45] <ryt_> ls
[13:45] <super> metaspike :the failed section shows "never" for each entity
[13:46] <acmeraptor> i suspected that @teward. it's early i'm just having fun here right now
[13:46] <Ben64> acmeraptor: this channel is for ubuntu support only though
[13:46] <super> But in type column it shows "pre-failure" in 3 entities and in rest "too old"
[13:46] <teward> acmeraptor: well, lets keep the channel open for support, socialization outside of support can be in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[13:47] <acmeraptor> i'd probably need some developer that works for wd.  haha. as if i can get that for free
[13:47] <teward> !offtopic > acmeraptor
[13:47] <acmeraptor> i know
[13:47] <super>  metaspike :But in type column it shows "pre-failure" in 3 entities and in rest "too old"
[13:47] <metaspike> super, is anything red
[13:47] <super> metaspike :No
[13:47] <metaspike> does the error log tab have anything in it
[13:47] <super> metaspike :yes it shows "ATA Error Count: 5 (Note: Usually only the last five errors are stored.)"
[13:48] <metaspike> but no errors.
[13:48] <Ben64> super: does anything show up when you do "dmesg | grep error"
[13:49] <super> metaspike : 5 errors with type "uncorrectable error data"
[13:49] <super> Ben64 :just checking
[13:50] <super> I have saved the log ,where do i upload for you to see
[13:51] <metaspike> !pastebin
[13:53] <super> Conveyance test :http://paste.ubuntu.com/9330699/
[13:53] <super> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9330699/
[13:53] <metaspike> but fyi, uncorrectable error in data is the same message i got with my failure disk, so im guessing your disk is dying
[13:53] <metaspike> is that why it froze? dunno. should you get your data off? yes.
[13:53] <acmeraptor> maybe knoppix is in order?  copy everything off a dying drive before it is lost?
[13:55] <metaspike> if the data's important, yeah... i was looking at ddrescue-gui b4, i wonder if it's friendly enough; worth a shot. recovery can just be a tedium without something that's made for it.
[13:55] <ubnew> Anyone have experience on Ati driver configuration ? http://fpaste.org/155449/35823141/ my error log
[13:55] <super> metaspike :I have no imp data on it.But plz if you can reconfirm by seeing my logs
[13:57] <metaspike> super, will do, finally temperatures: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[13:57] <metaspike> actually, that looks dated. just try 'sudo sensors'
[13:58] <super> metaspike :means it's fine?
[13:59] <Ben64> super: does anything show up when you do "dmesg | grep error"
[13:59] <super> Ben64 :yes
[13:59] <Ben64> like...
[13:59] <Ben64> I/O error?
[14:00] <super> [   11.872767] EXT4-fs (dm-0): re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro
[14:00] <super> [   15.500025] hda-intel 0000:00:14.2: Codec #0 probe error; disabling it...
[14:00] <super> These two lines
[14:00] <Ben64> thats not good
[14:00] <Ben64> bad disk or bad cable or bad controller or ...
[14:00] <super> Ben64 :sure?
[14:01] <Ben64> one of those probably
[14:01] <metaspike> super, errors 2 and 3 from smart show a failure to identify, the rest are DMA read/write failures.
[14:01] <Ben64> or bad sectors
[14:02] <super> metaspike :so what do you conclude
[14:03] <metaspike> she's gona blow
[14:03] <super> metaspike :ha ha really
[14:04] <super> :((
[14:05] <metaspike> it's also running pretty hot
[14:05] <metaspike> maybe it's just cold here, but my hdd is at 28, yours is 40
[14:06] <super> metaspike :it makes noise
[14:06] <metaspike> anyway. get your dataoff man! google ddrescue-gui or learn how to use it by cmdline... you might have issues with otherthings
[14:07] <metaspike> no wait, data's not importnant.
[14:07] <super> metaspike : I have no imp data..its in warranty..
[14:07] <super> metaspike :whats imp then??
[14:08] <super> metaspike : going for a replace
[14:08] <metaspike> yeah, show them the hard facts if they give you grief!
[14:10] <super> metaspike : i will ..Bro its a WD red one..rugged one..and now its dying :((..hardly 6 months
[14:13] <super> metaspike : sorry its WD Black,1TB..site says "Maximum performance for power computing."..LOL
[14:13] <metaspike> super, you can try 'badblocks -nvs /dev/sda' (im guessing /dev/sda?) for a sector check as well if you like.
[14:13] <super> metaspike ok
[14:13] <metaspike> i'm little disspointed, we never got to lm-sensors! oh well :)
[14:15] <super> metaspike :can we do that.Means neccesary now?
[14:15] <metaspike> it's up to you? cpu, gpu temps are the last thing you want to know about hardware wise, but i gtg...
[14:16] <super> metaspike : oK..thanx
[14:21] <safire> I don't have an ip address associated with my lo interface
[14:21] <safire> any idea how to fix htis?
[14:21] <nbuonanno> safire: do you have it defined in /etc/network/interfaces?
[14:22] <ubuntoXlover> is there a gnome-meta-package that removes all gnome stuff ?
[14:22] <cfhowlett> !pureubuntu
[14:23] <ubuntoXlover> ubottu: is ther !gnome as well ?
[14:23] <safire> I have auto lo and ges and have a default !Ubuntu system, follow the instru
[14:24] <safire> sorry, auto lo and iface lo inet loopback
[14:25] <nbuonanno> Odd. So you don't have any other network configuration software that might be messing with it?
[14:26] <safire> I do, I have bind9 installed. I followed this guide for setting up zimbra http://elijahpaul.co.uk/installing-zimbra-7-0-zcs-on-ubuntu-10-04-lts-using-amazon-aws/
[14:27] <bosnjak> what is actually a display :0, or :1, etc? What does that actually mean? Are those like virtual desktop's? Is this on the X level, or? Are they running on tty's? What do I google to find out more?
[14:27] <OerHeks> safire, that is old, zimbra is @ 8.5
[14:27] <davividal> hi. I just installed 14.10 + gnome 3. Now, when I use pgadmin, when I tap <tab> to change fields, it ignores. When I type too fast, some keys are being ignored. What should I do?
[14:29] <nbuonanno> davividal: To offer the quick-and-silly answer first, have you tried switching out keyboards?
[14:29] <compdoc> bosnjak, you talking about vnc? those are ports
[14:29] <safire> OerHeks: it's not like there are instructions for 8.5 zimbra on aws
[14:30] <nbuonanno> safire: That guide only appears to cover DNS-related configuration, but doesn't touch the actual interface config.
[14:31] <bosnjak> compdoc: not sure what you mean. I am talking about VNC, and i get that display=1 is port 5091 and display=2 is port 5092, but I'm not sure what that means on the server side? Does vncserver create a separate virtual desktops? and how? is this supported by X, or?
[14:31] <ubnew> how to change brightness on ubuntu ?
[14:31] <nbuonanno> Could you humor me, and pastebin a SANITISED version (if possible) of your /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/hosts?
[14:31] <EriC^^> ubnew: ubuntu, unity?
[14:32] <nbuonanno> (don't do it if you don't trust it)
[14:32] <compdoc> bosnjak, 0 means port 5900, which is usually the console's display. 1 means port 5901, which is a seperate desktop, and doesnt require that someone be logged onto the console
[14:33] <a_random_dude> My location: Bhubaneshwar, India
[14:35] <coolstar> I noticed a bug in the installers of multiple Ubuntu based distros (xubuntu, ubuntu, even linux mint)
[14:35] <cfhowlett> !bug | coolstar,
[14:35] <coolstar> if you have a USB installation disc for one distro and a recovery partition on the disk for another, it boots the 1st distro halfway and loads the GUI for the latter distro which results in a broken live environment
[14:36] <ikonia> coolstar:what ar eyou on about it
[14:36] <ikonia> what "latter" distro
[14:36] <ikonia> the livecd/usb just boots from itself
[14:36] <coolstar> ikonia: I created a live usb for xubuntu but I had a recovery partition for kubuntu
[14:37] <ikonia> recovery partition ???
[14:37] <coolstar> I dd'd the contents of the iso to a partition on the disk
[14:37] <ikonia> coolstar: the usb will not boot that
[14:37] <ikonia> the usb will boot itself - nothing more
[14:37] <coolstar> it booted itself but for some reason loaded kde
[14:37] <coolstar> when the usb was for xubuntu
[14:37] <ikonia> that seems unlikley
[14:37] <ikonia> it must have not booted from the usb
[14:38] <ikonia> as the usb will only read from the squash FS
[14:38] <ikonia> it can't read anything else
[14:38] <RainbowFactory> Is there even the smallest possibility the flash drive could be haunted?
[14:38] <coolstar> ikonia: I think it loaded the squashfs from the disk because I selected the USB from the bios
[14:38] <ikonia> coolstar: there is no squashFS on the disk
[14:38] <ikonia> coolstar: hence why it can't read it
[14:38] <RainbowFactory> coolstar: If it couldn't boot from the USB you selected it will probably skip to the next bootable device. At least my motherboard does
[14:39] <cfhowlett> coolstar, how to test?  go to bios and disable HDD.  then boot.
[14:39] <davividal> nbuonanno: it was working before.
[14:40] <davividal> nbuonanno: it is working on all other apps other than pgadmin.
[14:45] <bosnjak> compdoc: this is what i don't understand: "a separate desktop"? What kind of desktops are those? I guess this is something embedded in X or something?
[14:45] <nbuonanno> davividal: So it's a fresh install of 14.10, and you installed gnome 3 on top of it?
[14:45] <davividal> nbuonanno: yes.
[14:45] <compdoc> a virtual desktop thats created by vncserver
[14:46] <davividal> nbuonanno: I had a 12.04 install that I upgraded to 14.10 and it was 'working'.
[14:46] <nbuonanno> Do you have another window manager to run it in, e.g. Unity?
[14:46] <davividal> nbuonanno: I still have unity
[14:47] <bosnjak> compdoc: i see, but how? Is this something like xvfb does? And why does it do that, can't it just use the regular xfce desktop?
[14:47] <nbuonanno> I guess try running it from a Unity session, and see if it functions properly.
[14:48] <davividal> nbuonanno: good point. I'll try. thanks
[14:48] <bosnjak> compdoc: and also, if someone logs on to that machine phisically, will he see the same desktop as me from vnc client?
[14:50] <compdoc> bosnjak, the regular xfce desktop, as you call it, is known as the console. its the desktop you get when you sit in front of the PC. you can share that desktop, and ubuntu uses Vino (or used to) to allow you to do that. With vncserver, several ppl can connect, and each has their own desktop. All depends on how you want to do it
[14:52] <bosnjak> compdoc: so there is no way to use tightvnc to connect to the "console" display? Could I try setting the display to :0 in config file? Would that work?
[14:53] <compdoc> bosnjak, I think you can, however, to connect to port 5900, you have to be logged into the console already. I cant share the desktop unless its logged in
[14:53] <bosnjak> i see
[14:53] <gp5st> is there a way to get expect to pull a password from the gnome-keyring?
[14:57] <shpx> what's the point of close sourcing drivers? Can't everything be reverse engineered anyway?
[15:00] <ikonia> shpx: that is nothing to do with this channel/ubuntu
[15:00] <shpx> fair enough
[15:00] <shpx> sorry
[15:00] <ikonia> no problem
[15:01] <shaan> hey guys does anyone else get any errorrs, when doing apt-get update
[15:01] <ikonia> shaan: just tell us your errors
[15:01] <ikonia> what others get doesn't matter
[15:02] <shaan> temporary failer resolving
[15:02] <shaan> i even added google's dns server 8.8.8.8 to /etc/resolve.conf
[15:02] <ikonia> why ???
[15:02] <shaan> but still same bs
[15:02] <ikonia> tone down the language
[15:02] <ikonia> there is no need to swear at me
[15:02] <shaan> its new install of vps from, Hosthatch
[15:02] <ikonia> shaan: show me the output of of "uname -a" please
[15:02] <itdjj> hi, I've some problem with apt updates, when trying to execute "apt-get update" I get an error: "E:Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead." - "W:Failed to fetch http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-updates/universe/binary-amd64/Packages  Hash Sum mismatch". Any idea how that could happen? I've no clue how to fix it.
[15:03] <fog_proxy> shaan: what's your ubuntu version？
[15:03] <shaan> ikonia: first, i didn't swear, secondly, im saying that the server is BS. - has nothing to do with you.
[15:03] <ikonia> shaan: yes it does
[15:03] <ikonia> shaan: please show me the output of "uname -a"
[15:03] <shaan> Linux localhost.localdomsin 3.13.0-24-generic #4-ubuntu SMP Fri May 2 23:30
[15:04] <ikonia> so it looks like a full / standard install
[15:04] <shaan> lol i guess it probably has something to do with the time :P
[15:04] <ikonia> maybe, but doubtful
[15:04] <ikonia> shaan: what is the name of the host it's trying to resolve and failing
[15:05] <shaan> anything and everything, i just tried to run a ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com
[15:05] <shaan> gave me same issue
[15:05] <shaan> fog_proxy: 14.04
[15:05] <ikonia> shaan: so basically your resolver is totally not working
[15:05] <ikonia> shaan: is this a desktop install ?
[15:05] <shaan> ikonia: no, server vps from hosthatch
[15:06] <ikonia> is the install a desktop install or a server install (I appreciate it's a VPS)
[15:06] <shaan> its a Server install, AFAIK
[15:06] <ikonia> shaan: can you check if it's using dnsmasq or not
[15:06] <ikonia> is the server using dhcp ?
[15:07] <shaan> ikonia: i do not beleive so.
[15:07] <ikonia> can you please check
[15:07] <shaan> ikonia: how?
[15:07] <ikonia> look at the network config
[15:09] <fog_proxy> shaan: first make sure the network works，then check dns resolving with 'ping adomainname'
[15:10] <shaan> fog_proxy: okay
[15:10] <fog_proxy> shaan: I don't think it's apt-get's issue
[15:11] <sl-m> I am attempting to do something out of my technical spectrum. I
[15:11] <sl-m> I'm trying to run Mac binaries on ubuntu
[15:11] <ikonia> ping does not test hostname resolution
[15:11] <shaan> fog_proxy: i dont think it is a apt-get issue either, i beleive its network issue too.
[15:11] <shaan> because i cant even ssh into the darn machine only oob vnc works
[15:12] <sl-m> I downloaded Darling and all of this requirements(I think). Now I have no idea on how to use this software etc
[15:12] <sl-m> Checked the readme, and its just a glob of technical stuff I can't understand.
[15:14] <OerHeks> sl-m, you are trying to run mac software on linux ? never seen that.
[15:15] <sl-m> Yes. I want to play the 1995 simcity game. I could download the windows version and Wine it up but I figured it would be easier with mac version because mac is built off of some common software
[15:16] <HappyNewYear13> so, any windows 8 user can tell me: is it as fast as ubuntu? or will ubuntu ever be faster than any windows OS?
[15:16] <EriC^^> HappyNewYear13: i think ubuntu is faster
[15:16] <OerHeks> sl-m, there is no some sort of wine/for/mac AFAIK
[15:16] <sl-m> Darling is pretty close, but I cant figure out how to install it
[15:17] <HappyNewYear13> EriC^^, debian users think it uses too much memory (compared to debian)
[15:17] <sl-m> Its basically the wine for mac binaries
[15:17] <OerHeks> HappyNewYear13, ubuntu is faster, in updates, without antivirus needed ..
[15:17] <ikonia> sl-m: it's not the same thing
[15:17] <EriC^^> sl-m: sim city was sick... those hurricane stuff used to get me every time
[15:17] <HappyNewYear13> EriC^^, never used windows 8
[15:17] <ikonia> sl-m: use the windows version with wine
[15:17] <ikonia> sl-m: but be prepared for problems
[15:17] <sl-m> its a 1995 game, dont think it will be too much of an issue
[15:17] <ikonia> why ?
[15:17] <ikonia> what does the age of it have to do with it ?
[15:18] <sl-m> its a very simple 80mB game
[15:18] <ikonia> so ?
[15:18] <sl-m> ITs not call of duth
[15:18] <ikonia> that does mean the emulation layer can deal with it
[15:18] <sl-m> ok
[15:18] <ubnew> Anyone have experience on Ati driver configuration ? I am having error on ati driver http://fpaste.org/155449/35823141/
[15:18] <HappyNewYear13> OerHeks, yeah. i find it super fast. just wanted to know about the windows 8 user experience
[15:18] <EriC^^> HappyNewYear13: i think ubuntu is faster and causes the cpu to have lower temps too
[15:19] <HappyNewYear13> EriC^^, OerHeks reading the wikipedia on Linux it said the fastest computers on planet Earth run Linux
[15:20] <OerHeks> HappyNewYear13,  now go find a windows8 user on the fastest computers on this planet
[15:20] <HappyNewYear13> OerHeks, didn't get the joke. what do you mean?
[15:21] <ubnew> EriC^^ : nope , at ubuntu 12.04 classic
[15:21] <EriC^^> i think he means you can't infer anything from that
[15:21] <EriC^^> anyways in my experience i think ubuntu is faster and better
[15:22] <HappyNewYear13> or there's no windows 8 running fast
[15:22] <HappyNewYear13> i just love ubuntu. i needed more RAM from 12.10 though. i had too little. 2.5Gb did the trick
[15:23] <sl-m> What are you talking about? Are you saying a version of ubuntu has something to do with your RAM?
[15:23] <sl-m> nvm i read that wrong
[15:24] <OerHeks> HappyNewYear13, my pc has never seen windows, so i cannot compare in speed, but generally any pc runs faster with a SSD
[15:24] <malgorath> Does ubuntu's normal term only support 8 colors now?
[15:24] <OerHeks> and gives more fun
[15:25] <HappyNewYear13> OerHeks, i don't use windows anymore. i have vista on another dual boot laptop, sharing ubuntu too, for the ISP technicians who come to my house and say: I need windows
[15:25] <OerHeks> malgorath, when i open terminal > edit profile, i see 16 colours standard
[15:26] <malgorath> If a 'tech' came to my hows and said I needed windows to run the internet at home, i'd ask for a new tech
[15:26] <IceBot3000> It's not their fault other Operating Systems lag behind in network support
[15:26] <HappyNewYear13> malgorath, i know. because they only use a webbrowser to test their stuff
[15:27] <malgorath> OerHeks: can you run tput colors in term and see, I'm only getting 8 colors, no background options anymore... its really wierd.
[15:27] <Propheus01> #huawei-g300
[15:27] <vit_> Привет
[15:27] <HappyNewYear13> ISP technicians could think oh your OS sould be the problem, gimme windows instead
[15:27] <HappyNewYear13> could*
[15:27] <OerHeks> i gave away the UPC guy a lesson howto do his job with any linux.
[15:28] <HappyNewYear13> OerHeks, i could do that too. but to avoid the hassle i boot to windows
[15:28] <HappyNewYear13> OerHeks, they feel bad if you start teaching them stuff
[15:29] <streulma> Hi! Psensor says my temp1 is 128°C, it's shuffling between 50 and then it says 128 and rapidly back to 50.
[15:29] <shaan> hey guys i had a quick question how can i write a double line comand to end of a file?, i cant seem to comprehend how i will do it using tee..
[15:29] <shaan> /root/firewall.sh
[15:29] <shaan> su unknown -c /home/unknown/darkcoind
[15:29] <malgorath> shaan echo "command1\ncommand2"
[15:30] <shaan> so what seperate it via \?
[15:30] <malgorath> \n as in my example
[15:30] <streulma> I think sensor management is not good!
[15:30] <EriC^^> shaan: \n is for newline
[15:30] <shaan> ahh no space after \n?
[15:31] <EriC^^> wait isn't it /n
[15:31]  * shaan is confued
[15:32] <malgorath> shaan: try my example
[15:32] <malgorath> shaan: echo "command1\ncommand2" > test.sh
[15:32] <malgorath> or
[15:32] <fog_proxy> shaan: i think '\' is enough
[15:32] <HappyNewYear13> but if i showed an ISP an apple computer, he wouldn't complain. i bet. linux is marginal.
[15:32] <shaan> fog_proxy:  http://pastebin.com/muGzq65B
[15:32] <malgorath> omg stop giving bad advice folks, its \n for new line.
[15:32] <HappyNewYear13> an ISP technician*
[15:33] <EriC^^> sorry, it's \n
[15:33] <IceBot3000> Easier to support a Mac, they're consistent. A technician could look at a dozen Linux computers and everyone could have a different UI and configuration
[15:33] <EriC^^> shaan: you need to give it the -e so it interprets backslash escapes
[15:33] <shaan> malgorath: tried echo "command1\ncommand2" > test.sh , that didn't work
[15:34] <EriC^^> shaan: echo -e "command1\ncommand2"
[15:34] <HappyNewYear13> IceBot3000, you are right
[15:34] <malgorath> lol echo -e is correct, sorry I have an alias already setup for it
[15:34] <HappyNewYear13> never owned a mac. they are so expensive.
[15:35] <HappyNewYear13> are they worthy?
[15:35] <HappyNewYear13> i'm also an android cellphone tye of person
[15:35] <HappyNewYear13> type*
[15:35] <malgorath> I have 4 macs, mini, pro tower, macbook pro ret, mac book air.
[15:35] <shaan> EriC^^: thanks that worked, now one last thing instead of getting it to display on screen too, can i silence it so it just dumps the output straight into a file?
[15:35] <HappyNewYear13> malgorath, you geek
[15:35] <ravigehlot> What is the difference between "apt-get upgrade" and "apt-get dist-upgrade"?
[15:36] <malgorath> HappyNewYear13: I have a pc laptop and desktop also that run ubuntu
[15:36] <metaspike> HappyNewYear13, the ISP guy wouldn't complain, unless it was going into the infrastructure, which is almost certainly running linux.
[15:36] <EriC^^> shaan: echo shouldn't dump to the screen
[15:36] <malgorath> shaan: echo -e "command1\ncommand2" >> file.sh
[15:36] <streulma> nevermind, solved
[15:37] <EriC^^> shaan: btw i think it would be better to use the append >> or | tee -a
[15:37] <EriC^^> it's kind of messy to use "command\ncommand"
[15:37] <HappyNewYear13> metaspike, my ISP technicians only connect to a firefox browser to test the router, speed. never to the network settings; i have all figured out
[15:37] <super> Hii i trying to send my msg to ##hardware channel but " Cannot send to channel" appears
[15:37] <ravigehlot> man apt-get answered my question!
[15:38] <shaan> EriC^^: i am using teee - a
[15:38] <metaspike> metaspike, sounds more like helpdesk support than an actual technician (engineer)
[15:38] <shaan> EriC^^: i was just to stop echo from dumping it on screen
[15:38] <metaspike> why did i say metaspike. ugh. HappyNewYear13 !
[15:38] <HappyNewYear13> metaspike, because you love him
[15:39] <HappyNewYear13> metaspike, what? sorry
[15:39] <HappyNewYear13> erase and rewind
[15:40] <super> metaspike :hii again.I tried live CD and again JS was causing problem but there was not much noise this time!!
[15:40] <EriC^^> shaan: tee is dumping it
[15:40] <metaspike> I can't erase my mistakes, not here...
[15:40] <EriC^^> echo "command" | tee -a > /dev/null 2>&1
[15:41] <EriC^^> shaan: that will mute the output and standard error
[15:41] <metaspike> super, the live cd doesn't need the harddrive to work, so yeah. :)
[15:43] <super> metaspike :but why again the same problem "Warning Unresponsive script" problem??
[15:46] <metaspike> what are you trying to do?
[15:47] <wadie> I edited rc.local to execute two xrandr commands at startup,but they're not being executed :\
[15:48] <super> In LIVE mode,when i open FB a JS causes "Warning Unresponsive script"problem asking me terminate it every time??
[15:50] <bbryant> Super, out of swap possibly
[15:50] <Baako> hi guys i am loot in as root and i want to copy a file to another user documents folder. so i have done cp -i /myfile /bin/home/baako/Documents
[15:50] <bbryant> My first guess
[15:50] <Baako> but i keep gerring cp cannot create regular file
[15:51] <bbryant> Do you have write postings
[15:51] <metaspike> super, ctrl+shift+k  in firefox
[15:51] <bbryant> Write permissions to the target dir?
[15:51] <azy> hey i'm using 'top' and pgdn is giving me 'invalid command'... help me pls :(
[15:51] <super> bbryant :there was msg regarding swap when i booted from HDD .It vanished.Cant read.
[15:51] <bbryant> Super, probably related
[15:51] <metaspike> the console will give you javascript issues, also check your clock is right, still doesnt work, try a different browser, chromium (or chrome) or opera or something
[15:52] <Baako> what can i do?
[15:52] <bbryant> ?
[15:53] <fog_proxy> Baako: i think your path is wrong. should be ：/home/baako/
[15:53] <bbryant> Do you have write permissions to the target directory?
[15:53] <metaspike> ultimately, facebook web interface like other javascript apps, have nothing to do with #ubuntu or #linux, and there's nothing we can do about them...
[15:53] <super> metaspike :clock is right.sudo command to install chrome??
[15:53] <wadie> I edited rc.local to execute two xrandr commands at startup,but they're not being executed :\
[15:53] <metaspike> sudo apt-get install chrome   i guess
[15:53] <bbryant> Meta, this i think is because of swap
[15:53] <Baako> bbryant i am login in as root in the terminal
[15:53] <Baako> isnt root like the boss user?
[15:54] <bbryant> Baako, give me a minute to get to apc...ok?
[15:54] <bbryant> I'll highlight you in a minute
[15:54] <Baako> fog_proxy root@ubuntu:/# cp -i /myfile /bin/home/baako/Documents
[15:55] <metaspike> root can do anything.
[15:55] <bbryant> And the error is what again
[15:55] <Baako> fog_proxy thanks
[16:00] <azy> hey i'm using 'top' and pgdn is giving me 'invalid command'... help me pls :(
[16:01] <Baako> cp -b what does "-b" stand for?
[16:02] <fog_proxy> Baako: use 'man cp'
[16:02] <IceBot3000> Baako: backup
[16:02] <IceBot3000> (or read the manual)
[16:07] <wadie> I edited rc.local to execute two xrandr commands at startup,but they're not being executed :\
[16:08] <m1dnight_> guys, i'm trying to make a simple tar file of my system
[16:08] <m1dnight_> if I incluse /dev/ folder, does that backup all my harddrives twice?
[16:09] <fog_proxy> m1dnight_: i don't think so
[16:14] <bbryant> test
[16:15] <koss> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00BQ8RHJ2/fpv-20/
[16:18] <xx4455> hi
[16:20] <ubnew> How to create an Xorg on  /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[16:21] <EriC^^> ubnew: are you using nvidia?
[16:25] <ubnew> EriC^^ : Ati build in graphic card
[16:28] <nabn> hi. my ubuntu lost its display manager after a recent software update. i can access the shell. Wifi wont startup. can't even connect to the internet via ethernet to redownload gnome. any help please?
[16:29] <akis> hi all. my xubuntu 14.04.01 system stopped responding during internet browsing using firefox, because of a script and i shut it down unplugging the power. when i rebooted i got: an “attempt to read or write outside of disk 'hd0'” error. i managed to boot the system and i tried another restart and i got the same error. i finally gave: sudo update-grub and sudo grub-install  /dev/sda. Now it works as usually. I am just wondering if i did the r
[16:29] <akis> ight thing giving these command or do i have to do any think more. any advise plz?
[16:30] <David1965> I have been looking for a way to divide 4096 bit numbers but cannot make it work can multiply 4096 bit numbers though but when I tried to deconvolve it throw out one result then refused to do any more don't know what I did wrong
[16:32] <David1965> akis why not try a new USB based keyboard as there might be a fault with your keyboard
[16:33] <aethersis> hi, does anyone have experience with Back in Time/
[16:34] <compdoc> aethersis, I use it
[16:34] <aethersis> compdoc I noticed that every time it takes a snapshot, it takes a full snapshot instead of adding only the files that changed
[16:34] <aethersis> is there some way to make it copy only the files that changed?
[16:34] <compdoc> aethersis, hmm, I never noticed. Sorry, but I dont know
[16:35] <akis> David1965: why do you think that the error came because of my onboard keybord (actually its a laptop)? i never had any problem with the keyboard and after i gave the commands everything works again perfectlly.
[16:35] <aethersis> it's 400mb every 5 minutes if there are any changes even in 1 single file. I guess that's not how it's supposed to work
[16:35] <David1965> why not zip up all of your files that you have created and write them to DVD then you never have to worry
[16:36] <desperate_joe> ubuntu 14.04 on HP pavillion laptop: my keyboard input changes without anything from azerty into qwerty
[16:36] <David1965> laptops can stop responding because it goes into low power mode i.e going to sleep mode
[16:37] <David1965> weird could your laptop have got one of these rare Linux Viruses
[16:38] <ubnew> How to create an Xorg on  /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[16:38] <bbryant> what ubnew ?
[16:38] <EriC^^> David1965: i've heard of those, i think one upon a time a monkey was allowed to use a pc with linux and the rest is history..
[16:38] <nabn> hi. my ubuntu lost its display manager after a recent software update. i can access the shell. Wifi wont startup. can't even connect to the internet via ethernet to redownload gnome. any help please?
[16:38] <chrisss123456> hey guys, my alt-gr key isnt recognized and i havent been able to find out how to make it work. can anyone help out? the xev output when pressing it is this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9329670/
[16:39] <David1965> if you can get ESET Antivirus packages to install and run properly you might not have to worry about virsues again.
[16:39] <bbryant> except for the antivirus
[16:41] <David1965> nabn could you not format the hard-drive  and reinstall your Distro of choice
[16:41] <cfhowlett> nabn, reboot, try and older kernel
[16:41] <David1965> must go now hope you get your machine sorted soon.
[16:42] <soman> I'm under Xubuntu x86. How can I download 9not install) deb packages for x64 Java 1.7?
[16:42] <nabn> david1965 i have all my files, all my work there. so that'd be pretty harsh of an option
[16:42] <OerHeks> soman,  find them on launchpad and click them/download them manually
[16:43] <desperate_joe> anyone: ubuntu 14.04 on HP laptop: sometimes my keyboard changes from azerty into qwerty without warnign, only thig that helps is reboot
[16:43] <nabn> cfhowlett it was working fine. if i could just connect to the internet, i am hopefull that other problems would be fixed
[16:43] <bbryant> hm
[16:44] <desperate_joe> other problem: software updater: "requires installation of untrusted packages"
[16:44] <cfhowlett> nabn, "was working ..." WAS.  it'll take , what?   a whole minute to reboot and test an old kernel?
[16:44] <OerHeks> soman err only openjdk are there, for oracle you need to visit their site
[16:44] <soman> OerHeks: I think it's good. is it what I need https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openjdk-7 ?
[16:44] <aethersis> does anyone know a good linux backup utility, that'd backup everytime a change is detected and copy only the files that changed ?
[16:45] <aethersis> back in time does that however it copies EVERYTHING instead just the files that changed
[16:45] <soman> OerHeks: I hope that those packages don't need dependencies
[16:45] <daftykins> !backup
[16:46] <OerHeks> !offline | soman this might get those dependencies you need too
[16:47] <nabn> cfhowlett: tbh, i dont know how to fall back to older kernel. I dont even know how to get to grub on this machine. ubuntu came preinstalled, and grub menu doesnt show up
[16:47] <bbryant1> test
[16:47] <daftykins> nabn: hold left shift just as the OS is about to boot from disk
[16:47] <Delta-User> Anyone tryd setting up ftp for virtual hosts on apache?
[16:48] <daftykins> apache has nothing to do with ftp, afaiui
[16:48] <nabn> daftykins: thanks. can you also help me out on using the older kernel?
[16:48] <daftykins> nabn: it'll be pretty obvious once the menu comes up
[16:48] <nabn> daftykins: okay
[16:49] <Delta-User> I want non local accounts be able to connect on ftp to have full acces inside that folder
[16:49] <sirt> /
[16:49] <Delta-User> which would be located in the /var/www/website_1
[16:49] <Delta-User> and website_2 and so on
[16:49] <desperate_joe> hello any suggestions with 2 problems? software updater: requires installation of untrusted packages and my azerty keyboard changes into qwerty and only helps to reboot laptop
[16:51] <ubnew> bbryant : I can't find any Xorg conf on /etc/X11/ directory
[16:51] <bbryant> ubnew: so what is in that directory
[16:51] <bbryant> mind pastebining the result?
[16:52] <bbryant> do you have the pastebinit installed?
[16:52] <bbryant> it really helps with thsi
[16:52] <nabn> daftykins: rebooted to older kernel, eth0 still doesn't connect to internet. ping fails.
[16:52] <zykotick9> ubnew: xorg.conf is 1) not there by default 2) typically not required these days.  also, using a snippet in xorg.conf.d is preferred.
[16:52] <nabn> daftykins: also, what was wlan0 now appears as virbr0
[16:54] <daftykins> nabn: run "sudo dhclient eth0" and see if you get an IP
[16:54] <nabn> daftykins: "initscript smbd, action "reload" failed"
[16:55] <daftykins> that was the output from running dhclient?
[16:55] <nabn> daftykins: yes
[16:55] <daftykins> wow you've really done a number on your system
[16:55] <daftykins> so, no IP i take it? :P
[16:55] <daftykins> nabn: what version is this? (or was this)
[16:56] <nabn> daftykins: it does get an ip. but it looks weird. 10.42.0.1 on eth0 , my router should be 192.168.1.something
[16:56] <ubnew> bbryant :  file or folder without xorg http://fpaste.org/155529/52987141/
[16:56] <nabn> daftykins: kernel version? 3.13.0-37 64bit
[16:57] <daftykins> nabn: well no, ubuntu... but i can tell from that that it's trusty now
[16:57] <daftykins> nabn: what does "ping 8.8.8.8" get?
[16:57] <cfhowlett> daftykins, I've got a bad feeling about this = peek at the source list
[16:57] <ubnew> zykotick9 : I had install ati driver but it doesn't work on "aticonfig --initial" , I end up not able to config anything like screen size , brightness and etc
[16:57] <nabn> daftykins: does get replies.
[16:58] <zykotick9> ubnew: ahhh, ati.  well best of luck.  (sorry i can't/won't help with ati issues)
[16:58] <daftykins> nabn: seems like you're online then! try some package management "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[16:59] <ubnew> zykotick9 : any reason ? does it have driver problem ? sorry I am new to ubuntu
[16:59] <daftykins> !ati | ubnew
[16:59] <owen1> I 'Override software rendering list' and 'Enable WebGL' in chrome://flags but http://get.webgl.org say I don't have WebGL support. I also tried running chrome with --disable-gpu-watchdog but it doesn't help. Firefox runs WebGL just fine. I have the same issue with chromium-browser package (39.0.2171.65 Ubuntu 14.10) and also with chrome (39.0.2171.71). Any ideas?
[16:59] <tompsku> Hi, I have week try to find solution why cups/drivers stop wokring after lates updates. I just got error "The PPD version (5.2.10-pre2) is not compatible with Gutenprint 5.2.9."
[17:00] <zykotick9> ubnew: it's for personal reasons really.  ati has no "free" 3d drivers, and IMO (only) has had poor (or non-existant) gnu/linux support for ever...  good luck.
[17:01] <cfhowlett> ubnew, new card, man ...nvidia or intel
[17:02] <ubnew> zykotick9 : Guess I am out of luck , I follow the guide http://www.ubuntulinuxguide.com/install-ubuntu-ati-drivers-fglrx/ but I can't get it work. Should get a nvidia graphic card
[17:02] <nabn> daftykins: thanks. i'll see if it does the trick.
[17:03] <zykotick9> ubnew: sorry, i have no idea.  i haven't used ati on gnu/linux for 9-10 YEARS, so have no idea...
[17:03] <ash`> I have a task this weekend coming to get an AMD card working >.>
[17:03] <ubnew> zykotick9 : what are you using then ?
[17:03] <daftykins> install fglrx package from repos, maybe fglrx with updates, done.
[17:03] <ash`> although that doesn't help now, I will at least post my findings somewhere
[17:04] <daftykins> ash`: i think there's enough online already
[17:04] <zykotick9> ubnew: for most of the time, i've used nvidia.  now i use intel.
[17:04] <sad> Hallo !
[17:04] <ash`> daftykins: true, but i've not found a working solution yet
[17:04] <ubnew> bbryant : Nope I dont have pastebinit install , now I just installed
[17:05] <ash`> I've had to resert to the on board graphix
[17:05] <ash`> cs*
[17:05] <daftykins> ash`: but it's not the weekend! how can you have started? :)
[17:05] <ash`> and removed the sapphire card for now
[17:05] <ash`> i did say it doesn't help now
[17:05] <ash`> but i will post my findings somewhere
[17:05] <ubnew> bbryant : does intel have graphic card ? or integrated ?
[17:06] <daftykins> ash`: what model is it? wasn't it as simple as installing fglrx updates via addtional hardware?
[17:06] <zykotick9> ubnew: i've never seen an intel card, only integrated...
[17:06] <sad> is a dutch people on board ?
[17:06] <ash`> I have an R7 240
[17:06] <ash`> and nope i tried fglrx
[17:07] <daftykins> !nl | sad
[17:07] <ash`> my problem though was i couldn't install ubuntu on the machine and instead of changing the mode in bios i used teh VGA cable instead and one monitor
[17:07] <sad> Dank Je wel !
[17:07] <ubnew> zykotick9 : oh , the only need for me is to turn down the brightness on the monitor .
[17:08] <ubnew> zykotick9 : anyway thanks for the help :) need to get a new card for now
[17:08] <zykotick9> ubnew: good luck!
[17:09] <bittyx-desktop> I need some help figuring out how to partition my hard drive for a fresh 14.04.01 install. I have 2 primary partitions for Windows (I'm dual-booting) at the beginning of the hard drive - the System Reserved one, and the actual Windows partition. I'd usually create another ext4 primary partition (mount point "/") just after the actual Win partition, and an extended one with two logical partitions - an 8GB swap partition at the end of the HDD (I
[17:09] <bittyx-desktop>  have 8GB of RAM), and everything in-between is "/home". My question is, basically, is this an okay setup? Is there something better I could do?
[17:10] <bittyx-desktop> For example, what's the advantage of having a separate partition for "/boot"?
[17:10] <nbuonanno> bittyx-desktop: I assume one of the Windows partitions is your "main" OS on the system?
[17:10] <cfhowlett> bittyx-desktop, little to none ... when you install, IF ubuntu needs a /boot, it will create it.
[17:10] <bittyx-desktop> Or should I just install the boot loader to /dev/sda (instead of, say, /dev/sdaY).
[17:11] <bittyx-desktop> nbuonanno: Well, I don't really use Windows much for anything except for online banking - because my bank has a horrible online system where I have to recompile Java so that I could use it on Linuxes.
[17:11] <bittyx-desktop> nbuonanno: But I need it available, so...
[17:12] <bittyx-desktop> nbuonanno: And I do web dev, so from time to time I might need Windows to test stuff out in Internet Explorer, so I can't really not-have-it.
[17:12] <cfhowlett> bittyx-desktop,  you can dual boot or, perhaps better, install virtualbox to windows, install lubuntu or xubuntu to the virtualbox box.
[17:12] <nbuonanno> So the install-Ubuntu-through-Windows is probably not a viable option for you, then.
[17:12] <bittyx-desktop> (I know there are other solutions, but this one usually works).
[17:12] <bittyx-desktop> Hm I've never tried installing from Windows.
[17:12] <bittyx-desktop> I've been using Linux Mint for a couple of years now, but I'm sorta fed up, and wanna switch back to Ubuntu (which I was using before).
[17:13] <bittyx-desktop> cfhowlett: You mean run Ubuntu from a virtualbox within Windows? Nah, if I was doing that, I'd rather run *Windows* from a VM.
[17:13] <nbuonanno> Ah! Here it is: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide
[17:13] <k1l_> wubi :/
[17:13] <bittyx-desktop> Windows is my secondary system on all the machines where I use it.
[17:14] <cfhowlett> bittyx-desktop, not sure your banking needs would be met with a virtual windows
[17:14] <k1l_> wubi is not a lasting solution. better make a real install on native partitions
[17:14] <nbuonanno> k1l_: Not a fan? I've only used it a time or two myself.
[17:14] <cfhowlett> bittyx-desktop, your partition plan looks sound
[17:14] <bittyx-desktop> nbuonanno: Thanks for the link, I'll check it out. What's the advantage opposed to just installing from a live CD?
[17:14] <daftykins> nbuonanno: don't ever, ever advise WUBI please. it is an abomination
[17:14] <cfhowlett> k1l_, please don't advise wubi use.  it's dead.  it's unsupported.  it WILL break machines.
[17:14] <k1l_> nbuonanno: we have tons of users coming here with wubi issues. either ubuntu or windows or both are corrupted and dont boot. and we cant repair that.
[17:14] <daftykins> bittyx-desktop: ignore that idea entirely, it's utterly horrible
[17:14] <bubbasaures> bittyx-desktop, None it is not supported.
[17:14] <nbuonanno> Understood. So it's a deprecated solution, or it just never worked?
[17:15] <daftykins> when it worked, it was hell
[17:15] <bubbasaures> lol
[17:15] <k1l_> nbuonanno: its more of a testing setup. if you want ubuntu make room for partitions and install it there
[17:15] <bittyx-desktop> cfhowlett: Yeah, who knows about that. I'm not saying that recompiling Java would be hard, I just feel, from a dev's point of view, that asking your users to do that means that there's something wrong with what you're developing. It would be like a web-dev asking users to compile a custom build of Firefox or something.
[17:16] <bittyx-desktop> So I'd just rather stick with Windows since it seems to be supported out-of-the-box.
[17:16] <cfhowlett> bittyx-desktop, noted.  do to the dual then!
[17:16] <nbuonanno> Gotcha. I'll strike it from memory, then. bittyx-desktop: Ignore that :). That partition scheme makes sense, though I'm not certain enough on how you should set up the boot loader.
[17:16] <bittyx-desktop> Okay, thanks for the advice everybody! I just bought a new laptop and can't wait to run Ubuntu again.
[17:16] <jpentland> What's the simplest way to convert an H.264 video file to 800x480 from the command line? I don't really mind if it's cropped or scaled.
[17:16] <daftykins> bittyx-desktop: your partitioning setup sounded fine, though 8GB swap is a bit overkill. you only need it to match your system RAM if you want to hibernate/sleep etc
[17:17] <bittyx-desktop> daftykins: I usually sleep on my desktop instead of shutting down, and since this is a laptop, it's rarely gonna be shut down anyway.
[17:18] <tompsku> Any help with cups: "The PPD version (5.2.10-pre2) is not compatible with Gutenprint 5.2.9." I got this aftre last updates.
[17:18] <daftykins> bittyx-desktop: if it's new, are you sure it's not installed as EFI? may be best to share a pastebin of "sudo parted -l" from inside the livecd to be sure, though as you said 2 partitions already it probably isn't
[17:18] <bittyx-desktop> daftykins: I don't know what EFI is. Hold on a sec...
[17:19] <daftykins> bittyx-desktop: i have to run for now but i'm sure someone else can confirm/deny
[17:19] <bittyx-desktop> daftykins: Cool, thanks either way!
[17:19] <daftykins> np
[17:19] <bittyx-desktop> I'm gonna go and find out what EFI is and how it affects me.
[17:19] <sad> Hi
[17:20] <sad> is er een Nederlander aan bord ?
[17:20] <anonymous> hello
[17:20] <bubbasaures> sad, english?
[17:20] <k1l_> !nl | sad
[17:21] <sad> Yes . Please can you help me with download new version of Firefox ?
[17:21] <bubbasaures> sad, The latest is in the ubuntu repos.
[17:22] <sad> I use LXlE 14.04
[17:22] <anonymous> i'm italian but i speak english
[17:22] <sad> I am Dutch and I speak English too !
[17:22] <cfhowlett> sad, lxle is not supported here.  it's not ubuntu distro. sorry
[17:23] <sad> All right . Thanks !
[17:23] <bittyx-desktop> So, daftykins was asking if I have EFI - I have no idea what that is, but the output of the command they told me to run was http://pastebin.com/PQ5HtLdE
[17:23] <bubbasaures> sad, This is ubuntu only support is all you will need to find their support is all.
[17:23] <bittyx-desktop> How does this affect me?
[17:23] <anonymous> dutch? are you from Germany?
[17:23] <compdoc> Im american and I speak English too
[17:23] <cfhowlett> !fefi | bittyx-desktop
[17:23] <cfhowlett> !uefi
[17:24] <anonymous> i don't know the word ''dutch''
[17:24] <cfhowlett> anonymous, ask your UBUNTU support questions
[17:24] <bubbasaures> bittyx-desktop, You do not have efi or with windows UEFI, that is a msdos set up.
[17:24] <anonymous> what?
[17:25] <cfhowlett> anonymous, this is ubuntu support.  ask your ubuntu support questions
[17:25] <bittyx-desktop> Oh, I think I do have UEFI - in my BIOS I can choose whether I want to use "UEFI only", "Legacy only", or both - and if both, the boot order - I have "both" selected and "Legacy first". Is this okay or should I change something?
[17:26] <anonymous> ah sorry i thinked this is a simple chat
[17:26] <NigeyS> anyone here know if i can apaches vhost configs somewhere other than site-available and sites-enabled? it seems a2ensite is debian specific ? ...
[17:26] <NigeyS> store*
[17:26] <anonymous> i'm sorry
[17:26] <anonymous> bye
[17:26] <bubbasaures> bittyx-desktop, The hard drive info you showed us, shows a msdos on it is all, Sounds like you have a computer that's been modified was it new?
[17:26] <EriC^^> bittyx-desktop: if you choose uefi then you can't boot windows anymore
[17:27] <EriC^^> bittyx-desktop: you'd need to convert the partition table to gpt anyways and use an efi partition
[17:27] <EriC^^> bittyx-desktop: i think the easiest thing to do is install ubuntu in legacy mode with windows
[17:28] <solsTiCe> hi. When i run electrum, and choose "create wallet" and choose next it loops over and over and then crash with error " no seed found"
[17:28] <bittyx-desktop> FWIW, the laptop is a ThinkPad W520, and it's a used one, if that means anything to anyone. The hard disk is a 240GB SSD, but I've installed Windows myself (had to resize the partition, as it was previously taking up the whole HDD).
[17:28] <bubbasaures> !find electrum
[17:29] <bittyx-desktop> So if I have UEFI boot set to both (UEFI and legacy), but I have "legacy first" selected in the boot order, I should be fine?
[17:30] <EriC^^> bittyx-desktop: i think if you boot the live usb/cd in legacy mode and install you'll be fine
[17:30] <bittyx-desktop> EriC^^: Awesome, thank you (I'm now in the live CD booted with my current settings).
[17:30] <bittyx-desktop> You people are great!
[17:31] <EriC^^> no problem
[17:34] <getoo> hey can you guys help me out .. i have a macbook pro and after a clean install of ubuntu  i am trying to reinstall mac osx back on it to give it to my sister .. but i cant install macosx back on it for some reason
[17:34] <getoo> i am thinking i might have to remove mbr
[17:34] <bubbasaures> getoo, There is an apple channel
[17:34] <getoo> also it needs some kinda partition
[17:34] <getoo> bubbasaures: i know
[17:35] <getoo> but i need to work at it from ubuntu side first
[17:35] <bubbasaures> getoo, What you want is not our issue is all.
[17:35] <getoo> got it
[17:35] <getoo> :(
[17:35] <Noreen> good luck getoo
[17:35] <getoo> hehehe
[17:35] <Noreen> hi! i need to know i need to know if it's possible to install drivers without internet. can i download them from this computer (which has internet) and then put them on my computer (which doesn't)?
[17:35] <bubbasaures> getoo, Nothing ubuntu can do will make this easier is all. ;)
[17:36] <getoo> if i'll get any kinda help its from here as you guys understand how this worksd
[17:36] <getoo> apple nerds dont understand :)
[17:36] <Xe> getoo: if you DD the first 50 MB of the drive it will go into internet recovery needed mode
[17:36] <Noreen> maybe tell them you have no OS on your apple, they don't need to know why
[17:36] <cfhowlett> Noreen, not the recommended method but possibly.  what drivers?
[17:36] <Noreen> a driver for the wireless
[17:36] <cfhowlett> Noreen, what is your chipset?
[17:36] <Noreen> Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY [14e4:4315] (rev 01)
[17:37] <getoo> hmmmm
[17:37] <cfhowlett> Noreen, perfect.  go to pm and I'll get you sorted
[17:37] <Noreen> awesome thank you!
[17:37] <OerHeks> !offline
[17:37] <coolstar-chromeb> is there a way I can set proxy settings in xfce?
[17:38] <getoo> Xe: do u think if i remove mbr and create a HFS patition should be enough for me to reinstall the darn thing
[17:39] <Xe> getoo: OSX doesn't use MBR
[17:39] <getoo> i know
[17:39] <getoo> but in order to use its own
[17:39] <Xe> getoo: run dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=4m count=256
[17:39] <getoo> does it need room
[17:39] <Xe> as root
[17:39] <Xe> then reboot
[17:39] <getoo> k
[17:39] <Xe> it will be like "oh shit I can't boot"
[17:39] <Xe> then it will go into network recovery mode
[17:39] <getoo> hahahaha
[17:40] <Xe> or you can use OSX boot media
[17:40] <Xe> yeah
[17:40] <Xe> it's the most weird recovery method you'll likely ever see
[17:41] <getoo> bs=4m invalid number
[17:42] <shuman> getoo: you should check what a command does before you type it in
[17:42] <Riley> hey guys i need help setting up adb i installed android tools adb but whenever i type in adb devices nothing comes up
[17:42] <getoo> shuman: k
[17:42] <Riley> ive already tried adb kill server
[17:43] <cfhowlett> Riley, #android
[17:44] <Riley> well this is an ubuntu issue
[17:44] <Riley> not android
[17:44] <cfhowlett> Riley, actually it is an android issue.  if you don't have your android set, you'll get exactly the outcome you describe.  go to #android for help
[17:45] <Riley> what
[17:45] <Riley> that didnt even make sense
[17:45] <Riley> adb is not working on ubuntu not android
[17:45] <Riley> there for i need help with ubuntu
[17:46] <djskittles> Riley, perhaps try the same command as root - I suspect the device access from adb will require elevated privs
[17:46] <cfhowlett> Riley, no devices read because you need to set your android to debug mode.  no debugged device connected - no adb.
[17:46] <Riley> yea well im soft bricked right now so i can use my phone at all and im trying to get adb setup so i can unbrick it
[17:47] <cfhowlett> Riley, dude.  seriously.  go to android.
[17:47] <Riley> cfhowlett, seriously dont be a douch
[17:47] <cfhowlett> Riley, I know what you're doing wrong , but it's NOT an ubuntu issue.  #android will tell you more
[17:47] <cfhowlett> and welcome to the /ignore list
[17:48] <Riley> no they cant because they dont use ubuntu
[17:48] <Riley> they would tell me to come here
[17:48] <ubuntu-studio> may i ask guys What phablet is the best?
[17:49] <malgorath> I just recently installed ubuntu 14.04 on my laptop.  It runs great until I put the lid down and it suspends.  Then when I open it back up, I have to power if off and back on just to get it to respond, the graphics comes up and the login windows is there but there is nothing I can do with the keyboard/mouse or trackpad.  Its completely locked, I've tried alt+f1 ctrl+alt+f2 nothing.  Is there anything that can prevent t
[17:49] <malgorath> his? or a way i can tell it when the lid closes just power off
[17:49] <DJones> ubuntu-studio: Its a fat tablet/phone
[17:49] <DJones> ubuntu-studio: Probably anything over 7 inches
[17:49] <bubbasaures> ubuntu-studio, Best is a subjective.
[17:49] <coolstar-chromeb> anyone know how I can use a proxy autoconfig with ubuntu?
[17:49] <coolstar-chromeb> I'm using Xubuntu 14.04
[17:50] <cfhowlett> ubuntu-studio, "best" is subjective ... personally, I prefer nexus but any of the devices in the google play store should work.  for recommendations, see reddit.com/r/android   or reddit.com/r/nexus
[17:50] <arthur_afarias> As a client? Network Manager can do it to you.
[17:51] <DJones> Riley: It might be worth joining #ubuntu-touch to ask, they've probably got more experience in using the android management apps under ubuntu
[17:51] <ubuntu-studio> No i am looking phablet for my pocket size and what is top phablet?
[17:51] <piranah> OK I have googled till my eyes hurt. Trying boot Ubuntu Live cd on Dell Vostro 3560. Error on boot drm_kms_helper panic and kernel panic not synced
[17:51] <cfhowlett> ubuntu-studio, pretty much not an ubuntu issue.  go to #nexus or #android
[17:52] <ubuntu-studio> i am looking phablet for my pocket size and what is top phablet?
[17:52] <piranah> I suspect the issue may be caused by the dual video cards built in intel and ATI
[17:52] <Reedyseth> Guys do you know any PHP IRC Channel ?
[17:52] <piranah> anyone have any ideas ?
[17:52] <cfhowlett> ubuntu-studio, this is off-topic.  ask #android
[17:53] <piranah> I have tried ubuntu 12.04 as well as the latest version both have the same boot issue
[17:53] <zgorbyo_> hi all
[17:53] <cfhowlett> piranah, you can try nomodeset to default to low level VGA.  after installation, you'll need to figure out the graphics
[17:54] <Reedyseth> Guys do you know any PHP IRC Channel ?
[17:54] <piranah> cfhowlett: I think i tried that from the f6 boot options. But cant rem for sure. I will give that a try thanks
[17:54] <DJones> ubuntu-studio: Best tablet isn't something the ubuntu channel can answer, you need to ask the android channels or general hardware channels
[17:54] <bittyx-desktop> Yay, Ubuntu 14.04.01 up and running! Thanks again everyone for your advice!
[17:55] <piranah> bbiab testing suggested solution.
[17:55] <ubuntu-studio> i am looking phablet for my pocket size and what is top phablet?
[17:56] <DJones> ubuntu-studio: No, we don't know
[17:56] <popey> ubuntu-studio: please don't keep repeating the same question
[17:56] <cfhowlett> ubuntu-studio, stop asking here.  not an ubuntu issue.
[17:56] <zgorbyo_> in my ubuntu 1410, recently installed, i cant find the options for shutdown and restart, i can only choose between  lock and quit session
[17:56] <ubuntu-studio> OK and where i need to go?
[17:57] <daftykins> ubuntu-studio: to a phone shop
[17:57] <DJones> ubuntu-studio: Google or the android channels, or the ##hardware channels, all of which you've been told already
[17:57] <VanceX> ubuntu-studio: You've been told several times.
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[18:01] <trung> !emacs
[18:04] <trung> !code
[18:07] <cfhowlett> Noreen, sent you the image via PM ...
[18:09] <JRBerrios45> Hello Chat Room
[18:13] <JRBerrios45> Apairantly   i'm  to Early ..LOL .. diferent time zone, i am in Puerto Rico it is 2:15 pm Here.
[18:14] <xangua> !ask | JRBerrios45
[18:14] <matard> !patience
[18:15] <John_John_> what is the most popular c++ compiler in linux ?
[18:15] <jwash> hi everyone, i'm using the /multimon switch with freerdp. how do i get a connection bar at the top so i can get back to my Ubuntu desktop?
[18:16] <EriC^^> John_John_: you mean IDE?
[18:18] <John_John_> i mean the full stack :)
[18:18] <daftykins> John_John_: ##linux might be more relevant
[18:19] <trung> !vim
[18:20] <Rory> !code | John_John_
[18:20] <jwash> geany ftw
[18:21] <DJones> John_John_: Thats a pretty impossible question to answer, it comes down to personal preferences, you might be better asking in #ubuntu-offtopic or ##linux you might get more approproate answers than here as its not a speficic ubuntu support issue
[18:21] <piranah> well still fail cant boot ubuntu live kernel panic not synced. and drm_kms_helper panic. Tried with f6 options nomodeset and that also failed
[18:22] <John_John_> thanks anyways guys
[18:22] <John_John_> at least can you tell me the most featured ide with debugging support under kde ?
[18:22] <piranah> Tested Ubuntu 12.04 and 14.04 downloading 15.04 daily build now to see if there is a chance that well work
[18:23] <bubbasaures> piranah, Did you check any iso's md5sum?
[18:23] <willbradley> anyone else experienced random .bash_history corruption? this seems to happen monthly for me and it's concerning
[18:23] <cfhowlett> John_John_, ask #kubuntu or #kde
[18:24] <cfhowlett> Noreen, see them?
[18:24] <piranah> bubbasaures: no i dont think I did. I did run the test cd though from boot menu on both tested distro's
[18:24] <khang> !firefox
[18:25] <piranah> also the cd's work fine on other systems. They just seem to hate my laptop
[18:25] <bubbasaures> piranah, A sum check is better, how are you using the iso's on a dvd or usb and how are you loading it to this media?
[18:25] <OerHeks> piranah, what laptop exactly?
[18:25] <cfhowlett> piranah, always md5sum.  takes a minute.  saves a ton of aggravation
[18:26] <piranah> Dell Vostro 3560 i7 with 8 gb of ram and a 250 GB ssd
[18:26] <piranah> bubbasaures: burnt ISO to DVD and booted as such. Also tested with legacy boot from bios
[18:26] <OerHeks> piranah, any chance win8 on it, with fastboot?
[18:27] <bubbasaures> piranah, Burned as slow as possible, you seem to be aware of uefi
[18:27] <piranah> Win 8 is loaded
[18:27] <OerHeks> make sure fastboot is disabled and try again.
[18:28] <bubbasaures> yeah seems it's more getting the hardware right for boot
[18:28] <piranah> OerHeks: Thanks well check that. bubbasaures yes indeed :) Thanks
[18:29] <piranah> And yes fast boot was enable. I have turned it off well reboot and test. Thanks again
[18:30] <bubbasaures> piranah, Make sure W8 is off not in the hibernate for it's fast boot.
[18:38] <piranah> OK still fail even with fast boot disabled
[18:38] <piranah> http://imgur.com/SNWjqoz,7Nk4xS4
[18:38] <piranah> screen shot of the error
[18:39] <toothe> I noticed that when I have key-based authentication, I'm not shown what packages I need to update.
[18:39] <toothe> how do I get prompted for that, despite using key-based authentication?
[18:40] <gcollura> #ubuntu-it
[18:41] <piranah> starting to think I will never see ubuntu loaded on this laptop
[18:41] <toothe> piranah: what's wrong?
[18:41] <toothe> oh, a kernel panic...eeke
[18:42] <toothe> what kernel version are you using? 32 or 64?
[18:42] <toothe> and, do you have any hardware plugged in?
[18:43] <bubbasaures> piranah, You turned the fast boot off, is windows still in it's fast boot hibernate? Not sure that is the issue but windows has to be truly off.
[18:44] <VanceX> ^ As in, unplug and remove battery... Then reinstall.
[18:49] <piranah> bubbasaures: naa i did a full shut down
[18:49] <piranah> toothe: 64
[18:50] <piranah> VanceX: I have not pulled the battery however full shutdown power off and re try booting the live cd same issue
[18:50] <piranah> I spose I could pull the bat but I dont think that well make much difference lol
[18:51] <daftykins> what same issue?
[18:51] <VanceX> piranah: Worth a try, I should think:)
[18:51]  * daftykins looks up
[18:51] <piranah> kernel panic not synced see screen shot posted above for full details
[18:52] <daftykins> piranah: ah yes, sure your download wasn't corrupted? sure your media created ok?
[18:52] <piranah> Yes media and ISO are good tested with 2 versions 12.04 and 14.04
[18:53] <piranah> Also media boots on alt systems with no issues
[18:53] <daftykins> piranah: any BIOS updates available for the system?
[18:53] <VanceX> piranah: What about other iso's working on that lappy?
[18:53] <piranah> Did that as well today just to see if the bios update would solve no change
[18:53] <jasno> Howdy!  Trying to make a custom minimal live cd using live-boot.  When I run "lb build" it fails: "W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-security/Release  Unable to find expected entry 'contrib/source/Sources' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)"  Any ideas?  Thx
[18:54] <piranah> VanceX: as mentioned I tested with with 12.04 and 14.04
[18:54] <piranah> same error
[18:55] <piranah> also tested with nomodeset in case it was video related
[18:55] <daftykins> piranah: nothing online about your model of system? did i read right earlier that you're using DVDs?
[18:55] <piranah> yes
[18:55] <daftykins> piranah: note my use of two question marks, expecting two answers :)
[18:55] <piranah> daftykins: nothing on google etc. System is a Dell Vostro 3560 8GB of Ram 250 GB SSD dual graphics
[18:56] <rays> tried some google-fu, but haven't found any docs on installing ubuntu on a mac mini (late 2014 model) is it the same as the 2012 models? (did wifi change between these two?) anyone know?
[18:56] <daftykins> piranah: dual graphics as in...? nvidia optimus?
[18:56] <bubbasaures> piranah, I saw crashes in the 3.7 kernel associated with the ac adapter is all.
[18:56] <christian__> hello i want to move files from my old encrypted home folder to my new one. problem is when i mount it to /tmp/ the files are "read-only" . how can i move them?
[18:56] <piranah> Intel and ATI switchable
[18:56] <piranah> hrmm
[18:57] <daftykins> piranah: no settings in BIOS/EFI to change between i take it?
[18:57] <daftykins> screens of every setup page would be useful
[18:58] <piranah> daftykins: nope no options other then legacy boot which I have also done
[18:58] <piranah> I can screen shot each page of the BIOS if you like.
[18:58] <christian__> *bump* hello i want to move files from my old encrypted home folder to my new one. problem is when i mount it to /tmp/ the files are "read-only" . how can i move them?
[18:59] <cfhowlett> christian__, sudo cp foo.deb
[19:01] <christian__> cfhowlett i would like to *move* the files instead
[19:01] <cfhowlett> christian__, sudo mv       ?
[19:01] <jasno> any recommendations for creating a minimal, command-line only, live usb from 14.04 that actually works?  Tried debootstrap and 'live boot' but I'm not capable of getting either one to work.
[19:01] <daftykins> christian__: mount it read-write.
[19:02] <daftykins> jasno: mini.iso
[19:02] <christian__> you're a geniuis
[19:02] <christian__> thanks will try
[19:02] <piranah> note http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201202-10605/ a lower end version of my laptop is Ubuntu Certified.
[19:03] <daftykins> piranah: does yours have this hybrid disk setup too?
[19:03] <piranah> dont think so as I pulled the orginal drive and replaced it with a SSD
[19:04] <cfhowlett> I've heard discouraging stories about the hybrid SSD + linux
[19:04] <daftykins> piranah: hmm, booted without a drive in yet for fun?
[19:05] <piranah> daftykins: nope but thats a good idea
[19:05] <piranah> I'll try that next. If it is the drive that is causing the issue that will suck lol
[19:06] <daftykins> so you changed to an SSD and installed windows 8 to that already 0o
[19:06] <christian__> so after moving the files how can i open them as a normal user?
[19:06] <piranah> yup
[19:06] <daftykins> i'd probably also try installing on another machine then transplanting
[19:06] <daftykins> but, baby steps :)
[19:06] <christian__> i dont have the rights
[19:06] <piranah> :) Thanks all for the help again. Im gonna go find my screw driver lol
[19:06] <shuman> you gotta fight! for your right!
[19:06] <shuman> ;)
[19:07] <daftykins> christian__: chown, chmod
[19:07] <christian__> hmmm which attributes then?
[19:07] <jasno> daftykins:  I need more customization than that.  Is there an easy way to add/remove packages to it?  Trying to make a custom hard-drive imager USB stick that boots into a bash script which will prompt the user and run gparted/mkfs/tar as needed.
[19:07] <daftykins> christian__: share a pastebin of "ls -al /path/to/newly/copied/files" so we can see what we're dealing with
[19:08] <daftykins> jasno: no idea.
[19:08] <daftykins> mini.iso is just for installing really
[19:08] <linusthebear> Hello, I am experiencing slight static on my display.  It is most noticeable when looking at a black color.  It is quite problematic for color correcting my RAW images.  Is this possible a driver issue?
[19:08] <daftykins> jasno: hard drive imager? what's wrong with clonezilla?
[19:09] <cfhowlett> linusthebear, or a failing gpu or a loose connection ... lots of possibles ...
[19:09] <linusthebear> Well shit.
[19:10] <linusthebear> Best way to proceed?
[19:10] <daftykins> don't use that language here.
[19:10] <linusthebear> Oh, Sorry.
[19:10] <linusthebear> I dont mean to not abide by the rules.
[19:10] <christian__> can't ls the folder dont have he privileges
[19:10] <daftykins> christian__: use sudo again.
[19:11] <jasno> daftykins: looked at it and it's almost what I want.  I need to handle varying drive sizes and i'm not sure if it can handle that.  I'd feel more comfortable modifying a debian/ubuntu based iso.
[19:11] <linusthebear> Its a laptop, and a fairly new one.
[19:11] <daftykins> jasno: clonezilla runs from debian :)
[19:11] <linusthebear> Id be surprised if the GPU was failing of disconnected.
[19:11] <linusthebear> *or
[19:11] <daftykins> linusthebear: first steps then 1) identify your graphics hardware 2) identify which driver you're using
[19:12] <daftykins> linusthebear: install pastebinit and run "lspci | pastebinit" for 1)
[19:12] <nusr> xorg is using up a lot of system resources. i have the nvidia drivers installed, and firefox tabs, vm and libreoffice open..is it normal. i can hear the fan humming..
[19:12] <Tarsier> Newbiew
[19:12] <linusthebear> One thing - is that I cant seem to switch to a proprietary driver from the GUI
[19:12] <linusthebear> lspci gives  Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Kabini [Radeon HD 8400 / R3 Series]
[19:12] <linusthebear> and no - Not a newbie
[19:13] <jasno> daftykins: oh, sorry I was thinking of systemrescuecd which is gentoo(i think).  Still though clonezilla gives me more than I need.  I also need to make the whole thing seamless to an end user(i.e. pop in the usb key, select upgrade or install in the isolinux menu, call my script and walk the user through it via custom prompts).
[19:13] <grenangen> So, might be the wrong forum, so please redirect if that's the case. Question: Hows the battery life on System76 Galago UltraPro?
[19:13] <nusr> Tarsier: why you got to hurt my feels :)
[19:13] <linusthebear> and Im using the X org ATI wrapper
[19:13] <daftykins> jasno: why on earth are you giving end users cloning tasks?
[19:13] <jasno> daftykins:  honestly I've wasted so much time trying to make a custom cd now that I kinda have to see it through or look like an asshat.  I can't believe the process is so fragile nowadays but I guess you get what you pay for.
[19:14] <cfhowlett> grenangen, https://search.yahoo.com/search?p=system+76+performance&ei=UTF-8&fr=moz35
[19:14] <jasno> daftykins: it's a field upgrade for an embedded video server.  other people have decided to use the 'format and untar an image' approach for upgrading the system partition and I'm not able to change that
[19:15] <linusthebear> I mean, is there a way to switch drivers not from unity?
[19:15] <mengo_> is there any good and i mean really good !! OCR program in ubuntu that can extract text from an image jpg ??
[19:15] <linusthebear> mengo_: Google Drive had a decent OCR
[19:15] <grenangen> cfhowlett: Sure, search is fine, but I wanted some real experience, so if someone here has been using the Galago UltraPro, how has it performed for you? Battery keeps what it promises etc :)
[19:15] <linusthebear> *has
[19:16] <linusthebear> but I can understand why youd want to do it locally.
[19:16] <jasno> daftykins: I created debian packages for our software but no one wants to use them... just format and untar an image from a 'golden reference system'.   Whatever...
[19:16] <daftykins> jasno: sounds like you created work for yourself where there was none ;)
[19:18] <jasno> daftykins: Well, I don't make the decisions, I just get paid to implement them
[19:18] <bubbasaures> grenangen, There is a system76 section on the ubuntu forums
[19:18] <intheguts> hi
[19:19] <jasno> daftykins: so much wrong with this project... Hell, I'd never use ubuntu(or debian) to build an embedded system... but this is the second time this year someone has paid me to do it... gah...
[19:19] <Noreen> i have these tar.gz files and i've extracted them using tar xzvf  but i can't get them to install, tehy don't have a file inside them called "install"
[19:19] <intheguts> I managed to get my internal isight from this macbook 3,1 working but the firewire isight doesnt work?
[19:19] <nusr> is there a way to disable visual effects in 14.04?
[19:20] <intheguts> anyone here ever got that working?
[19:21] <Tarsier> hi
[19:21] <daftykins> Noreen: stop. are you sure that's the only way to get the programs you want? because that's a very bad way to go about getting them
[19:21] <Noreen> i haven't got internet
[19:21] <Noreen> on the ubuntu computer
[19:21] <Nedal> Hi, I m trying to install  Matlab on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS but it seems like it doesn t progress anymore, is it normal ?
[19:21] <daftykins> Noreen: why?
[19:22] <Noreen> is it really important why?
[19:22] <Noreen> i need these files, they have drivers that allow me to get the internet, i had to copy these files from the computer with internet to the computer without it
[19:22] <Noreen> i have no ethernet cable
[19:22] <Noreen> they are drivers for the wireless card
[19:23] <daftykins> Noreen: given you could be going about it the wrong way, yes - the reason is strongly important.
[19:23] <daftykins> what's the wireless card model?
[19:23] <Noreen> ok. but i have no internet. how else can i do it?
[19:24] <daftykins> *facepalm*
[19:24] <bubbasaures> nusr, This the unity desktop?
[19:25] <Noreen> daftykins "<cfhowlett> get the files.  install the files.  use wifi"
[19:25] <Noreen> that's what i'm doing
[19:25] <intheguts> you cant find your wireless card info with your ternminal?
[19:25] <Noreen> get cape wear cape fly
[19:25] <daftykins> Noreen: alright so you can't even share what model it is?
[19:25] <Noreen> i have the info for it
[19:25] <Noreen> i know exactly what it is
[19:25] <Noreen> i've done all that already
[19:25] <BluesKaj> Noreen, if you extracted the file then binary should run, most co tar/bz files don't have an installer
[19:25] <BluesKaj> co=compressed
[19:25] <intheguts> I think I will be out of luck with my problem though
[19:26] <Nedal> Hi guys , I m trying to install  Matlab on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS but it seems like it doesn t progress anymore, is it normal ?
[19:26] <MM[TexasTech]> Rylan are you here? Its Anthony
[19:26] <bubbasaures> Nedal, You need to parse that to actual details.
[19:26] <Noreen> blueskai "sudo dpkg -i these two packages in sequence;
[19:27] <Noreen> "<cfhowlett> /etc/pool/main/d/dkms/dkmsFOO         etc/pool/restricted/b/bcmwl/bcmwl-kernel-sourceFOO"
[19:27] <Noreen> i have no idea how to do that
[19:27] <MM[TexasTech]> Rylan?
[19:27] <SavKobani> hi
[19:27] <Nedal> bubbasaures_ how s that ?
[19:27] <SavKobani> is i386 version of ubuntu the same as 686?
[19:28] <SavKobani> i only see i386 for virtalbox
[19:28] <bubbasaures> Nedal, I see this, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MATLAB   "it seems like it doesn t progress anymore, is it normal ?"  This has no real meaning is all
[19:28] <MM[TexasTech]> Rylan if you see this let me know
[19:30] <daftykins> Noreen: copy the .deb files over onto the target system... open a terminal application, browse to where they are and run "sudo dpkg -i filename.deb"
[19:30] <Noreen> i haven't got .deb files i have .tar.gz
[19:30] <Noreen> he thought they were deb because he thought i had ubuntu, they come with ubuntu (i'd told him i had lubuntu and i do)
[19:31] <Nedal> bubbasaures_ it s been like 45 min and it s not installed yet, programs usually don t take all this time .. I was wondering if there s a problem with that
[19:31] <daftykins> Noreen: so what do you see inside the .tar.gz you downloaded? seems like you're doing this a bit too blind
[19:31] <Noreen> so because they aren't on lubuntu i have to copy them over from anotehr computer and for some reason he told me to get tar.bz and ive no idea what to do with them
[19:31] <Noreen> yeah i'm completely blind
[19:31] <Noreen> it doesn't say much inside.. template.. template.. authors.. copying.. dkms..
[19:32] <Noreen> lots of things, i don't know.. makefile.. is that it?
[19:32] <daftykins> Noreen: right well you're being a bit resistant to the process by refusing to share what the model is, so...
[19:32] <Noreen> what?
[19:32] <bubbasaures> Nedal, For help here you have to detail exactly what you have done and where you are at, at times. Matlab is not common here.
[19:32] <Noreen> but i said that before
[19:32] <Noreen> sorry
[19:32] <tunafish> Is there an alternate installer image for 14.04 lts?
[19:32] <linusthebear> Hello - When I try to change my graphics driver, it just revert back to Xorg.
[19:33] <Noreen> i've been at this for about 5 hours
[19:33] <linusthebear> suggestions?
[19:33] <Noreen> and i've had to start over again several times
[19:33] <Noreen> i thought giving the model number would mean starting over again
[19:33] <trijntje> linusthebear: yeah, thats a known bug with the non-free driver package
[19:33] <Noreen> i only wanted to know how to install these files, i didn't realize it was necessary
[19:33] <Noreen> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2254994 < explained
[19:33] <bubbasaures> Nedal, In simplest terms, you have to dangle the details like a trout fisherman. ;)
[19:34] <kostkon> !alternate | tunafish
[19:34] <flufffer> hey, i've got a semitrivia question about something that is or used to be in the software center.
[19:34] <linusthebear> trijntje: Hmm alright. What shall i do to use the proprietary driver?
[19:34] <dreamcat5> hello! software updater (dpkg underneath) is failing to upgrade my kernel ever since i moved /boot onto a fat32 partition
[19:34] <sha512> how good is laptop mode tools configuration
[19:34] <trijntje> linusthebear: I dont know, I'm still waiting myself to have this bug fixed
[19:34] <linusthebear> trijntje: Can I help fix this?
[19:34] <kostkon> !mini | tunafish, you could try that
[19:35] <dreamcat5> i get:  error setting ownership of vmlinuz operation not permitted subprocess paste was killed by signal broken pipe
[19:35] <Noreen> daftykins: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2254994
[19:35] <dreamcat5> from dpkg
[19:35] <trijntje> dreamcat5: why did you do that? Is it even possible to put linux on fat32, that filesystem is very limited?
[19:35] <Ankhers> Is there a way to give a certain user access to start/stop a given upstart script?
[19:35] <linusthebear> trijntje: Yes linux will run on FAT32
[19:36] <dreamcat5> trijntje: so that i can set grub-reboot menu (next-boot selection) from windows (dual booting)
[19:36] <dreamcat5> trijntje: but also because its where easy2boot is installed (grub.exe)
[19:37] <trijntje> linusthebear: you can mark 'affects me too' on the bug page, and keep an eye on it in case developers need someone to test a fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/1390032
[19:37] <tunafish> thanks, kostkon, so, looks like I can't setup lvm using the default image? I want a lvm with / and swap, and a ntfs partition. I couldn't make it.
[19:37] <kostkon> tunafish, can't help you on that
[19:37] <linusthebear> Thx All.
[19:37] <dreamcat5> it boots fabulously fine with /boot and the linux kernel files on a FAT32 partition. if only i can get around this stupid dpkg error when upgrading
[19:38] <flufffer> i'm trying to remember the name of a lo-fi sad game series of two, on the software center. i must've seen them two or three years ago and they might still be there
[19:38] <dreamcat5> because FAT32 has no permissions, when the dpkg install script tried to chown / chmod it's permission denied --> failure
[19:39] <hxm> do you give support to home media hard drives?
[19:39] <dreamcat5> i could temporarily move my /boot onto / and remount it afterwards. but that's a hassle to keep doing that for every kernel upgrade being pushed out by ubuntu software updater
[19:39] <daftykins> Noreen: ah yes a classic broadcom install. it's truly a shame you couldn't source a network cable, that would've taken a lot less than 5 hours.
[19:39] <daftykins> hxm: no
[19:39] <Noreen> it is a shame indeed!
[19:39] <hxm> why
[19:39] <Noreen> i updated the thread with the advice from the other guy
[19:39] <daftykins> hxm: is it running Linux...
[19:40] <daftykins> Ubuntu, specifically :P
[19:40] <sahra> ok danke.
[19:40] <Nedal> bubbasaures_ Ok, I ll make it easier, I want to stop installing the program, it s in progress. What should I do ?
[19:40] <hxm> i dont know what is running, i had a NAS, the HD crashed, so i replaced it and installed the firmware on it, then i discovered i can open telnet, and then enabled ssh daemon, and then installed apt-get
[19:41] <hxm> and it barely works, seems a binary-arm
[19:41] <bubbasaures> Nedal, How are you installing?
[19:41] <daftykins> hxm: yes, no support here.
[19:41] <hxm> ok thanks
[19:41] <Nedal> via the Software Center
[19:42] <Nedal> bubassaures_ via the Software Center
[19:43] <Nedal> bubbassaures_ via the Software Center
[19:43] <daftykins> Noreen: hang on let me see if i can find something.
[19:43] <Noreen> daftykins i'm going to try dkpg -i ing them fromt the desktop
[19:44] <flufffer> anyone remember this game? very pixelly and quiet, there was something about your character's hair greying in the first one, and the second starts with you playing catch with a little girl. very odd and memento-mori
[19:44] <bubbasaures> Nedal, I don't think the full matlab install is in the ubuntu repos so have no idea what you have or are doing, or if stopping it will leave you just hanging a bit or a lot on installing. However I gave you the wiki which is clear on how to install in 14.04.
[19:44] <daftykins> Noreen: doesn't work with anything not .deb - waste of time.
[19:45] <Ubuntu_User_SA> Hi all
[19:45] <BluesKaj> flufffer,, do you have a ubuntu related question?
[19:46] <Ubuntu_User_SA> Does anyone feel like tackling a weird samba share related issue? In other words helping out a budding novice? 8)
[19:46] <daftykins> Ubuntu_User_SA: the better way to ask that would be with a pastebin of your config and log issues in hand
[19:47] <Ubuntu_User_SA> Could I just give a little background
[19:47] <daftykins> Ubuntu_User_SA: in a pastebin perhaps, so it's all in one link.
[19:47] <daftykins> we don't really benefit from a life story ;)
[19:47] <bubbasaures> Nedal, It appears the matlab-support is what you get from the ubuntu repos, installed after you follow the wikis install info.
[19:48] <MM[TexasTech]> Rylan are you there?
[19:48] <Nedal> bubbassaures_ so I can t stop it ? I leave the installing on in the software center and follow wiki ?
[19:48] <Ubuntu_User_SA> Basically I'm the 'primary' user on my machine.  And my wife is another user.  We access the same Windows 7 KVM virtual machine.  I have set up smb.conf very simply for myself and I am able to see the share as a network drive in the VM.  But I had to do some very weird extra config in the samba config to get my wife's working.  I'd like to share it
[19:48] <Ubuntu_User_SA> and maybe get some idea why I had to do it
[19:48] <bubbasaures> MM[TexasTech], Stop coming here and asking if people are here.
[19:48] <flufffer> blueskaj, the thing in question is a usc application; is there somewhere you could point me?
[19:49] <Ubuntu_User_SA> [Samba_share_rmtonkin]
[19:49] <Ubuntu_User_SA> path = /home/rmtonkin/Documents
[19:49] <Ubuntu_User_SA> available = yes
[19:49] <Ubuntu_User_SA> valid users = rmtonkin
[19:49] <Ubuntu_User_SA> read only = no
[19:49] <Ubuntu_User_SA> browseable = yes
[19:49] <Ubuntu_User_SA> public = yes
[19:49] <Noreen> daftykins just to let you know i got cut off about 3 minutes ago so if you said anything i missed it
[19:49] <unopaste> Ubuntu_User_SA you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[19:50] <flufffer> i was worried it was too off topic actually
[19:50] <m_tadeu> hi....I have a file that has read only permissions(user,group,others) and now I can't even delete them...how can I fix that?
[19:50] <Ubuntu_User_SA> I tried to paste a few lines from my config file but I got muted.
[19:51] <dale____> how can I get rid of the new scroller in 14.04LTS and get the old scroller?
[19:51] <genii> Ubuntu_User_SA: Use a pastebin instead as the bot told you.
[19:51] <Ubuntu_User_SA> Sorry Daftykins, how does the pastebin process work again?
[19:51] <Ubuntu_User_SA> sorry guys
[19:51] <daftykins> Noreen: ok, yeah i'm looking into some things. do you have 64-bit installed?
[19:51] <BluesKaj> flufffer, it is offtopic...no idea what usc is
[19:51] <Noreen> daftykins yup it's 64bit
[19:51] <genii> !pastebin | Ubuntu_User_SA
[19:52] <daftykins> Noreen: can you download this and transfer it to the target system? http://launchpadlibrarian.net/157283339/bcmwl-kernel-source_6.30.223.141%2Bbdcom-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb
[19:52] <Ubuntu_User_SA> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9334632/
[19:53] <Ubuntu_User_SA> I had to do some weird extra config to get my wife's samba share to work but I don't know why I had to do it
[19:53] <bubbasaures> dale____, http://www.sysads.co.uk/2014/05/tweak-disable-overlay-scroll-bar-ubuntu-14-04/   here is one of sevral ways
[19:53] <Noreen> daftykins k i will do that now, thakns :)
[19:53] <Ubuntu_User_SA> Windows was telling me it couldn't access the files.
[19:53] <Ubuntu_User_SA> I also had to chown the directory recursively in order to make her the owner of everything
[19:53] <daftykins> Noreen: whilst that's on the go, can you tell me what *interface names* you see for network connections by opening the terminal program on the target system and typing "ifconfig -a" - an example would be "lo" and "eth0"
[19:54] <Ubuntu_User_SA> but now it seems to work.  But dunno why it didn't work with the simple samba config that I use for my own user
[19:54] <Noreen> eth 0, lo
[19:56] <alan_> I set up wlan0 during setup (text-mode, an old laptop) and connected successfully during installation. But, after the first boot, `ifconfig` only shows "lo". Do I need to run setup differently to get the network settings from setup to apply to the installed system?
[19:56] <daftykins> Noreen: ok good stuff, so if you copy that folder to the desktop (or anywhere else you can recognise, like /home/<your username>/ then in the terminal typing "ls" should show that .deb file there (or you may have to change directory to it) are you ok on the command line?
[19:56] <Noreen> daftykins: eth0, lo. ... i got a message "dependency is not satisfiable: dkms
[19:57] <daftykins> Noreen: that was from running sudo dpkg -i on this deb, was it?
[19:58] <MM[TexasTech]> Rylan are you there?
[19:58] <Ubuntu_User_SA> I'm here
[19:58] <Ubuntu_User_SA> I pastebinned the results I wanted to discuss
[19:59] <Noreen> the lubuntu terminal is awful, i don't know how to copy and paste into it
[19:59] <Noreen> ctrl+v doesn't work and neither does right click paste
[19:59] <Ubuntu_User_SA> Noreen: shift + ctrl + v
[19:59] <Ubuntu_User_SA> or right click paste
[19:59] <sha512> hey anybody can tell me how is laptop-mode tool configuration for laptops...does it make a good difference
[20:00] <Noreen> k thank you ubuntu user!
[20:00] <Ubuntu_User_SA> 8)
[20:00] <Noreen> daftykins i get the same error message whether i do it through the terminal or not, i need that other dependency
[20:00] <Noreen> i have it as a tar not as a deb
[20:00] <daftykins> Noreen: yeah, i was trying to get that info by asking XD
[20:00] <daftykins> Noreen: ignore the tars, they're not an option - grab http://launchpadlibrarian.net/140983736/dkms_2.2.0.3-1.1ubuntu4_all.deb
[20:01] <Noreen> k thank you daftykins!
[20:02] <Ubuntu_User_SA> does anyone feel like looking at my samba config?
[20:03] <Ubuntu_User_SA> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9334632/
[20:04] <terackus> can someone tell me what program i use to copy and burn a a DVD using a DVD+RDL disk
[20:05] <daftykins> copy?
[20:05] <Ubuntu_User_SA> terackus: I use K3B and devede
[20:05] <daftykins> what kind of DVD?
[20:05] <daftykins> Noreen: how's that coming along?
[20:06] <k1l_> !away > Mish|WalkingDead
[20:06] <terackus> I used Brasero to make back ups but will not burn DL DVD i tryed K3B but the disk will not load on DVD player
[20:07] <Ubuntu_User_SA> try devede maybe
[20:07] <daftykins> terackus: sounds illegal.
[20:07] <Ubuntu_User_SA> That creates nice DVDs
[20:07] <Noreen> daftykins it says i have broken dependencies :(
[20:07] <Noreen> can i tell it to ignore the dependencies?
[20:07] <w23rdst> Hi friends.
[20:07] <daftykins> Noreen: alright, can you copy the terminal output into a text file and bring it online so i can found out what's happening?
[20:07] <w23rdst> Can someone give me the ubuntu offtopic channel?
[20:08] <w23rdst> Hi Daftykins.
[20:08] <genii> !ot | w23rdst
[20:08] <w23rdst> Thank you ubottu.
[20:08] <MM[TexasTech]> Rylan are you there?
[20:08] <w23rdst> You are a good guy
[20:08] <Noreen> daftykins the terminal just says "errors were encountered" it's when i try to instal it using deb installer i get that bit about broken dependencies
[20:08] <Ubuntu_User_SA> Does anyone have a moment to look at my samba config?  I know DaftyKins is busy at the moment
[20:08] <daftykins> Noreen: i was asking you to use sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[20:08] <w23rdst> I will be glad to help you ubuntu_user
[20:09] <Ubuntu_User_SA> w23rdst: thank you
[20:09] <Noreen> that's what i used
[20:09] <w23rdst> What do you need help with, Ubuntu_User?
[20:09] <Ubuntu_User_SA> w23rdst: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9334632/
[20:09] <daftykins> Noreen: so i need to see what it's saying
[20:09] <Ubuntu_User_SA> Could you look at that
[20:09] <terackus> i own the copy i have replaced the disk 3 times my kids the the movie i just an tired of buying new one
[20:09] <daftykins> terackus: still illegal i'm afraid
[20:09] <rootz> I'm having an issue that I can't seem to figure out. Ever since I switched my work machine from unity to xfce one of my monitors in the display port get synchronization error. In order to fix it I need to change resolution to anything and then back to 1080p. I tried the following updating my intel graphics drivers, changing cables, changing display port. This error only occurs on reboot. Is there anyway to force the xfce4-settings:display to never change.
[20:10] <Ubuntu_User_SA> w23rdst: basically I had to do quite a bit of extra config to get my wife's samba share to be viewed as a network drive in a windows 7 VM
[20:10] <w23rdst> This is weird, Ubuntu_User.
[20:10] <Ubuntu_User_SA> So my samba share, the top one, worked fine and required little config
[20:10] <Noreen> ctrl+shift+v still won't paste
[20:10] <Ubuntu_User_SA> her's didn't work and I couldn't access via win 7 so I had to add options regarding file permissions
[20:10] <Ubuntu_User_SA> dunno why
[20:10] <w23rdst> I'm sorry but I am new to IRC ubuntu_User.
[20:10] <Noreen> i have to hand copy the name of the file, maybe i messed it up
[20:10] <w23rdst> I won't be of much help I'm afraid.
[20:11] <Ubuntu_User_SA> if you click on that link, you will see the portion of the file that deals with samba
[20:11] <w23rdst> Daftykins, can you help Ubuntu_User?
[20:11] <Ubuntu_User_SA> w23rdst: He's busy
[20:11] <bubbasaures> w23rdst, enjoy the free coffee and bowling.
[20:11] <terackus> but its ok to convert to AVI but not make a back up
[20:12] <w23rdst> Ubuntu_User, me and daftykins are good friends.
[20:12] <Ubuntu_User_SA> Was just wondering why I had to use create mask = 0777 directory mask = 0777 and force user = gltonkin
[20:12] <w23rdst> What do you mean Bubbasaures.
[20:12] <Ubuntu_User_SA> 8)
[20:12] <Noreen> i can't copy or paste out of the terminal, shift doesn't help
[20:12] <BluesKaj> Noreen, ctrl+v
[20:12] <bubbasaures> joke
[20:12] <Noreen> i did that
[20:12] <Noreen> that doesn't work on any terminal ever
[20:12] <Noreen> well that i've used
[20:12] <Ubuntu_User_SA> Noreen: ctrl shift v should work.  otherwise right click paste
[20:12] <Noreen> neither works
[20:12] <Ubuntu_User_SA> weird
[20:12] <Noreen> xterm
[20:12] <EriC^^> Noreen: are you in the gui or a tty?
[20:13] <imastupidguest> I learned that I can switch between tabs in gnome-terminal by pressing Alt + < Tab # > which is great, but this only works with the row of numbers on the keyboard. Is there a way to make this work with my number pad as well?
[20:13] <daftykins> Noreen: you copy by mouse highlighting.
[20:13] <Noreen> i can't
[20:13] <EriC^^> Noreen: just select the text, go to the paste site and click the middle mouse button to paste, ( or left and right together on a touchpad )
[20:13] <popey> Noreen: xchat doesn't support CTRL+SHIFT+V
[20:13] <popey> Noreen: sorry, Xterm, I meant to say
[20:13] <popey> Noreen: maybe try gnome terminal or terminator
[20:13] <Ubuntu_User_SA> maybe standard ubuntu ternimal?
[20:13] <Ubuntu_User_SA> that works fine
[20:13] <popey> or any other terminal from the recent past
[20:13] <Noreen> this is the standard
[20:13] <Noreen> this is lubuntu
[20:14] <Ubuntu_User_SA> Ah... Not familiar with that distro
[20:14] <Noreen> i can't download a better terminal because the wireless is the thing i am trying to get working
[20:14] <popey> #lubuntu is -> that way :D
[20:14] <Ubuntu_User_SA> w23rdst: are u familiar with samba tho?
[20:14] <popey> Noreen: you can middle-mouse click paste in xterm
[20:14] <popey> (both mouse buttons together = middle click)
[20:15] <Noreen> when i  middle mouse what happens is it resends the last thing i put in the terminal
[20:15] <EriC^^> Noreen: are you trying to paste something ?
[20:15] <popey> middle mouse click will paste whatever you have highlighted in some other window
[20:15] <Noreen> yes i am trying to copy and paste an error message
[20:16] <Noreen> why can't i just handtype it
[20:16] <popey> so highlight url in other browser, move mouse to xterm and middle click
[20:16] <Noreen> tthat doesn't work
[20:16] <w23rdst> Ubuntu_User, I just started using Ubuntu like a month ago, sorry.
[20:16] <Noreen> i am trying to copy text which is IN xterm
[20:16] <EriC^^> Noreen: select the text in xterm which you want to copy, then click the middle mouse button in the paste site to paste it
[20:16] <Ubuntu_User_SA> w23rdst: Oh okay 8(
[20:16] <popey> Noreen: so hilight, middle click, job done
[20:16] <w23rdst> I'm sorry I can't be of much help, Ubuntu_user.
[20:16] <Noreen> that doesn't work
[20:16] <Noreen> i have tried that
[20:16] <Noreen> a few tiems
[20:17] <popey> Noreen: does your mouse have a middle button?
[20:17] <EriC^^> Noreen: ok, which command are you trying to paste?
[20:17]  * spithash pokes Ahnberg 
[20:17] <Noreen> yes it does. that's what i did to try it
[20:17] <popey> Noreen: just type it in then
[20:17] <Ubuntu_User_SA> w23rdst: No worries 8)  I need to find someone who really knows their way around Samba and using it to share directories with virtual machines, specifically windows 7
[20:17] <Noreen> i am not trying to paste a command
[20:17] <Noreen> never mind
[20:17] <Noreen> thank you everyone
[20:17] <popey> rather than waste time trying to get paste working
[20:17] <EriC^^> Noreen: i know, but what is the command you are running which you want the output of?
[20:17] <Noreen> i was going to do that but then everyoen started asking me questions about it
[20:17] <Noreen> i am not going to try to get xterm to work
[20:18] <Noreen> i haven't got time
[20:18] <Noreen> never mind
[20:18] <Noreen> eric forget it it doesn't matter
[20:18] <EriC^^> Noreen: hold on
[20:18] <EriC^^> 1 sec
[20:18] <w23rdst> Ubuntu_User, I am sure daftykins can  help you with that. You should message him.
[20:18] <Noreen> daftykins i am going to hand type it and put it in ubuntu paste bin
[20:18] <MM[TexasTech]> Rylan are you there?
[20:18] <Bazyl> hello, how can i update glibc on ubuntu 14.04LTS ?
[20:18] <w23rdst> Rylan just left, TexasTech
[20:18] <k1l_> MM[TexasTech]: just ask the whole channel, so other people can help you if they know
[20:19] <Ubuntu_User_SA> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:19] <imastupidguest> Anyone on the keybinding question?
[20:19] <Ubuntu_User_SA> that should update all software that needs it
[20:19] <Ubuntu_User_SA> all software that needs updating I mean
[20:19] <EriC^^> Noreen: type dpkg -i <filename.deb> | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:19] <EriC^^> Noreen: and give daftykins the link it returns
[20:19] <k1l_> Noreen: mark text, ctrl+shift+c if its in terminal, then ctrl+v in the pastbin website.
[20:20] <w23rdst> Daftykins is a great friend :)
[20:20] <Noreen> i don't haev internet eric so i can't do that
[20:20] <Ahnberg> spithash: eeek!
[20:20] <popey> w23rdst: can you please stop pinging people randomly
[20:20] <Noreen> thank you for your help
[20:20] <daftykins> w23rdst: stop highlighting me, i don't know you
[20:20] <Noreen> but i am not trying to get xterm to work
[20:21] <popey> k1l_: xterm, that doesn't work.
[20:21] <Noreen> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9335024/ daftykins
[20:21] <w23rdst> We talkd yesterday daftykins. You don't remember me, dude?
[20:21] <w23rdst> talked*
[20:21] <christian__> hmmm sudo mv  /dir is still worklking
[20:21] <popey> w23rdst: this is a support channel, please take discussion elsewhere
[20:21] <christian__> directory is some 100gb big
[20:22] <christian__> is that normal?
[20:22] <genii> w23rdst: For casual chat not related to Ubuntu support questions, you should go instead to the #ubuntu-offtopic channel
[20:22] <Ubuntu_User_SA> christian__: I found issues copying large files.  there are lots of URLs about it if you google it.  Weird, it copies really quick and then slows down significantly/  I notice it a lot when copying from USB drives and so forth
[20:23] <spithash> Ahnberg: I wasn't expecting to find someone I know in here :) but life is full of surprises! :)
[20:23] <genii> w23rdst:  /join #ubuntu-offtopic is how to go there.
[20:23] <Bazyl> i want to install drivers for my HD 7850 on ubuntu 14.04LTS  can someone answer my few questions ?
[20:23] <Noreen> these files come by default on ubuntu, do they? maybe i should just give up and get ubuntu instead of lubuntu.. but if i did that adn the internet STILL didn't work
[20:23] <daftykins> Noreen: EriC^^ i don't know what's going on there? any ideas? i may also have to leave soon
[20:23] <christian__> does this have anything to do with the files being encrypted?
[20:24] <Ahnberg> spithash: I'm everywhere! :P Hows it going man?
[20:24] <spithash> Ahnberg: getting ready to have dinner :) 10:23pm here in Greece
[20:24] <Saleem> how to create new network proxy in ubuntu 12.04 using virtualbox
[20:24] <Ahnberg> spithash: somewhat late for dinner no? :P I just got home from dinner and beers, doing some work now.
[20:24] <surt> I have a gigabit network using nfsv4, iperf gives me an average bandwidth of 94Mbits/sec. Up until recently I've been getting excellent transfer speeds averaging 80MB/s almost hitting theoretical max. But now, I'm getting a burst of that speed and then it's dropping to an average of 1.3MB/s. The only changes made are apt-get upgrades, can someone please help me narrow this bug down?
[20:24] <Noreen> daftykins does ubuntu come with the broadcom drivers pre-installed?
[20:25] <daftykins> Noreen: it does not... i had a macbook i installed this on just the other day, i plugged a network cable in and had it installed in seconds.
[20:25] <Noreen> i don't have a network cable
[20:25] <Ahnberg> spithash: trying to expand the drive of a Windows machine I have in Amazon EC2. Never done it before. A bit backwards.
[20:25] <daftykins> Noreen: i know that, i'm informing you of just how easy it is when you have a £1/$1/€1 item ;)
[20:26] <Noreen> i can't get one
[20:26] <k1l_> !ot | Ahnberg spithash
[20:26] <spithash> Ahnberg: awesome, have a good one then. (it is a bit late for dinner but I had a really busy day and my girlfriend well.. my.. wife in a few days.. has still some work to do so I'm waiting for her to finish.. (yes the news is that I'm getting married)
[20:26] <spithash> :P
[20:26] <Noreen> i am in a small town in turkey i've never been to before
[20:26] <Noreen> if i coudl get one i would get oen
[20:26] <spithash> ubottu: oh ok, sorry for the mess
[20:26] <Noreen> believe me this is not fun for me
[20:26] <Noreen> i don't even speak turkish
[20:26] <Ahnberg> spithash: take care man!
[20:26] <Ubuntu_User_SA> noreen: what u doing in Turkey lol?
[20:26] <Noreen> how am i even going to recognize a computer shop
[20:27] <Noreen> if they even have one here
[20:27] <Noreen> in this town
[20:27] <Noreen> if i could get one i would, believe me
[20:27] <EriC^^> Noreen: daftykins i think ubuntu comes with the bc driver
[20:27] <cr3> hi folks, how can I solve the problem of "The following packages have been kept back: xorg xserver-xorg"?
[20:27] <Ubuntu_User_SA> Your trying to get Lubuntu working in some small town in Turkey?  That's a weird combination of events 8) lol
[20:27] <surt> lol
[20:27] <EriC^^> Noreen: do you have a live usb/cd?
[20:28] <BluesKaj> Noreen, if you have no ISP how do you intend to connect to the internet even if you can install the correct driver?
[20:28] <daftykins> Ubuntu_User_SA: this is not a chat channel
[20:28] <Noreen> yes i do eric^^
[20:28] <MM[TexasTech]> Rylan are you there?
[20:28] <Noreen> i have wireless blueskaj
[20:28] <EriC^^> Noreen: ok, go to pool/main/B
[20:28] <k1l_> MM[TexasTech]: stop that please
[20:28] <Noreen> i am looking for drivers for my wireless blueskaj
[20:28] <Ubuntu_User_SA> I know, I came here looking for support and then I realised DaftyKins is like the only expert here 8) lol
[20:29] <Noreen> eric^^ there is no pool, this is lubuntu
[20:29] <Noreen> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2254994
[20:29] <BluesKaj> wireless still requires an ISP unless you're using a cell phone connection
[20:29] <alan_> I'm having this problem: http://askubuntu.com/questions/471763/cannot-see-use-wireless-on-ubuntu-14-04-server , how can I add my wireless information from setup to the installed system?
[20:29] <Noreen> blueskaj i have an isp.. why do you tihnk i don't have one
[20:29] <EriC^^> Noreen: i just mounted a lubuntu iso, it's there
[20:30] <Noreen> blueskaj i was on ubuntu a few hours ago on that computer, this was supposed to be an upgrade
[20:30] <EriC^^> Noreen: you're not being cooperative at all, and you are talking to like a million people at the same time
[20:30] <Noreen> blueskaj how could i be talking to you right now if i didn't already have wireless internet
[20:30] <EriC^^> can you focus!?
[20:30] <Noreen> ok
[20:30] <Noreen> i looked for it earlier and i couldn't find it eric^^
[20:30] <EriC^^> do you know how to mount the cd?
[20:30] <Noreen> it's a usb
[20:30] <Noreen> and yes
[20:30] <BluesKaj> Noreen, ok sorry , my mistake , I assumed you had no ISP and were trying to connect with a cell dongle
[20:31] <EriC^^> ok, you should have a "pool" directory
[20:31] <Noreen> ok let me reboot
[20:31] <BluesKaj> Noreen, a phone ?
[20:31] <Noreen> did you read the thread?
[20:32] <alan_> Noreen: yes, I'm in the same spot the asker is and there is no solution posted
[20:33] <BluesKaj> ok bbl ..gonna check to see if my community mailbox is thawed out
[20:33] <Noreen> yeah that's my thread, i put it up because every time a new person starts helping me they ask the same questions and they forget things or are surprised that i have lubuntu not ubuntu etc.
[20:33] <saleem> how to create new proxy setting for ubuntu 12.04 using virtualbox tell me
[20:33] <Kryptopocalypse> Hello
[20:34] <Noreen> k eric^^ i am in the live usb, and there is no pool..
[20:34] <Noreen> there's a proc
[20:34] <surt> Sorry, not sure if anyone saw my post but I just noticed I'm connected to a gigabit network at 100mbps. This used to work flawlessly on 1000mbps, but since an update I can't change it: "sudo ethtool -s eth0 speed 1000" = "Cannot advertise speed 1000". Any ideas?
[20:34] <skicrazy> can anyone help me with unrealircd? http://pastebin.com/cm7mHriE
[20:34] <saleem> tell me
[20:34] <Noreen> eric^^ it says opt proc rofs.. no pool
[20:34] <EriC^^> Noreen: when you mean you're in the live usb what do you mean?
[20:35] <vami> hi
[20:35] <EriC^^> you booted into it?
[20:35] <Noreen> eric^^ you told me to boot into the live sb...
[20:35] <EriC^^> no
[20:35] <Noreen> ... what did you want me to do?
[20:35] <Noreen> there is no pool in either of them
[20:35] <Kryptopocalypse> next
[20:35] <EriC^^> i asked you if you had it, cause the files you need are on it
[20:35] <EriC^^> and i asked you if you knew how to mount it
[20:36] <Noreen> ok i'll reboot again
[20:36] <EriC^^> Noreen: to mount the .iso or the cd
[20:36] <Noreen> do you just mean right click mount?
[20:36] <EriC^^> ( from your filemanager, pcmanfm if possible )
[20:36] <EriC^^> yes!
[20:36] <EriC^^> Noreen: do you have internet access with the live usb btw?
[20:37] <Noreen>  no i don't
[20:37] <Bazyl> i want to install drivers for my HD 7850 on ubuntu 14.04LTS  can anyone answer my few questions ?
[20:37] <daftykins> !ask | Bazyl
[20:38] <MM[TexasTech]> Rylan are you there?
[20:38] <Noreen> eric^^ what makes you think the files are on the usb? i looked for them before and i couldn't find them, and there is nothing called "pool" i looked for that and couldn't find it
[20:39] <Noreen> oh wait there it is
[20:39] <Noreen> lol
[20:39] <Bazyl> do i need to update my gclib 2.19 to start diver installator from http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop?os=Linux%20x86_64
[20:39] <Noreen> i've been doing this too long
[20:39] <Bleakwiser> how would i go about uninstalling a software from source?
[20:39] <dario> ciao friends
[20:39] <Bleakwiser> i'm debaing whether iw ant to make install mesos or just copy the build dir over to /opt
[20:39] <Bleakwiser> not sure how hard cleanup is though
[20:40] <EriC^^> Bleakwiser: depends on what was written
[20:40] <EriC^^> by the author of the program
[20:40] <Bleakwiser> i see thanks, i'll head over to #mesos
[20:41] <Jordan_U> Bazyl: Did you already try the "Additional Drivers" tool?
[20:41] <EriC^^> Noreen: which broadcom do you have?
[20:41] <Bazyl> no i dont
[20:42] <Ubuntu_User_SA> I think I'll come back another time when you all aren't so busy.  Would be nice to understand Samba config a little better
[20:42] <Noreen> Eric^^ Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY [14e4:4315] (rev 01)
[20:42] <Noreen>  full story:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2254994
 where can i find it ?
[20:42] <Jordan_U> Bazyl: That is always the first thing you should try, it's part of Ubuntu Software Center and should automate proper installation of proprietary drivers for you.
[20:43] <Bleakwiser> nm it seems my makefile has an uninstall target
[20:44] <Bleakwiser> i suppose i coudl also make the software into a deb? and use aptitude to remove it later?
[20:46] <Bazyl> what is fglrx ?
[20:46] <r3v3rb_> hi all, i have a shell script that runs from the terminal without issue ( its a unison file sync ) but when added to crontab -e it outputs unisons Usage message instead of picking up the default settings and running as per the terminal? Any ideas?
[20:46] <nedal_> Hi, I m trying to install Matlab on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS but it can t do it in every way !!  could you help please ?
[20:47] <MichaelP> putting ubuntu on android tablet does the android apps still work from google play ?
[20:47] <EriC^^> Noreen: ok, i think it should work
[20:47] <flux242> r3v3rb_: it usually means that the script's environment is not the same.
[20:47] <EriC^^> Noreen: try dpkg -i b43-.....deb
[20:48] <daftykins> Bazyl: it's the AMD proprietary graphics driver
[20:48] <daftykins> !amd
[20:48] <daftykins> typical.
[20:48] <daftykins> !ati | Bazyl
[20:48] <maybemaybe> ipv6 or ipv4
[20:49] <r3v3rb_> flux242: any expansion on that - the script resides in /usr/local/bin
[20:49] <r3v3rb_> and the crontab calls /usr/local/bin/backup.sh
[20:49] <EriC^^> Noreen: you good?
[20:49] <OerHeks> nedal_, if your install gets stuck, it askes for confirmation for something, try tab to see the dialog https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MATLAB
[20:49] <Noreen> i've tried that a few times already eric^^ it says i'm missing dependencies
[20:49] <Noreen> as i said in the thread
[20:50] <r3v3rb_> output is set to > ~/unison-cron.log 2>&1
[20:50] <EriC^^> Noreen: did you try the one in the b directory?
[20:50] <r3v3rb_> root unison-cron.log catches the output everytime :\
[20:50] <Noreen> build essential?
[20:51] <EriC^^> Noreen: try the one in pool/restricted/b/bcmwl...
[20:51] <flux242> r3v3rb_: check environment for both use cases
[20:51] <bubbasaures> MichaelP, Not sure there is a release for an android device supported beyond the ubuntu-touch
[20:52] <Noreen> eric^^ the pool file has main, multiverse, universe, no restricted
[20:52] <r3v3rb_> flux242: okay, the script looks like this http://pastebin.com/4YKGc47F
[20:52] <OerHeks> nedal_, only 64 bit mathlab R2014b works on 14,04 lts http://nl.mathworks.com/support/sysreq/roadmap.html?nocookie=true
[20:52] <EriC^^> Noreen: try multiverse
[20:52] <flux242> r3v3rb_: i don't want to look at it.
[20:52] <r3v3rb_> flux242: ;) np
[20:52] <EriC^^> Noreen: which lubuntu is this?
[20:52] <Noreen> the LTS
[20:53] <EriC^^> ok
[20:53] <Noreen> what's is it.. tetch tapier?
[20:53] <Noreen> tetchy
[20:53] <EriC^^> close... trusty tahr
[20:53] <EriC^^> :D
[20:53] <VanceX> lol
[20:53] <Noreen> eric^^: multiverse has "d" in it and in that drdsl..
[20:54] <nedal_> OeHeks_ but from where should I install it? where is the link ? or the command to follow ? ( I m new on linux)
[20:56] <Noreen> eric^^ the thing is even if we find whatever file it is you are looking for.. it won't let me instal any debs i click on at all so far, it says i don't have the dependencies for any of them
[20:56] <EriC^^> Noreen: try to install the dkms first
[20:56] <OerHeks> nedal, you need to download it yourself, matlab is not in the repos
[20:56] <Noreen> i did
[20:56] <EriC^^> Noreen: it should be in pool/main/d/
[20:56] <MichaelP> bubbasaures, ohh ok.. just wondered was watching video's on youtube of people puting linux on android tablets
[20:56] <Noreen> it says i haven't got the dependencies for it
[20:56] <EriC^^> ok great
[20:57] <EriC^^> Noreen: which dependencies does it complain about?
[20:57] <EriC^^> build-essential?
[20:57] <Noreen> oh i wish it would tell me
[20:57] <Noreen> this is all in the thread..
[20:57] <EriC^^> Noreen: i'm reading it
[20:57] <Noreen> it says tehy are broken, and to run sudo apt-get -f
[20:57] <bubbasaures> MichaelP, There were some earlier releases, check the versions your seeing.
[20:58] <Noreen> which won't work without internet
[20:58] <EriC^^> Noreen: ok, and what does apt-get -f install say
[20:58] <bubbasaures> MichaelP, May be possible in some cases but not a supported route at least in an image you can pop in.
[20:59] <Noreen> oooo i didn't think that woudl work without internet
[20:59] <Noreen> it is deleting somethign...
[20:59] <EriC^^> Noreen: yeah it works
[20:59] <Noreen> ok now when i try to install dkms it says i need dependency gcc
[20:59] <EriC^^> ok
[21:00] <Noreen> yay! one step closer!
[21:00] <Bazyl> how to check if i am using my mothreboard built-in graphic card or external one ?
[21:01] <MichaelP> bubbasaures, more less i just trying find easy way to share video's from laptop to tablet
[21:01] <BluesKaj> Bazyl, in the terminal, lspci -knn | egrep -A 3 'VGA|3D'
[21:02] <Noreen> eric^^ ok so i need gcc, do i have that on the live usb? and when i try to install dpkg now it says i need "make" do i have that? looking for them
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[21:03] <BluesKaj> Bazyl, sometimes a bios setting for the graphics card is necessary
[21:03] <Noreen> i found make
[21:04] <Bazyl> BluesKaj, what do you mean? i have an Asus mobo with UEFI
[21:04] <EriC^^> Noreen: in pool ?
[21:05] <Noreen> eric^^ am looking in pool
[21:05] <EriC^^> i mean where did you find make?
[21:05] <BluesKaj> Bazyl, ok uefi/bios, but a graphics card pci setting might be needed nonetheless
[21:05] <Noreen> pool/main/m
[21:05] <EriC^^> ok
[21:06] <EriC^^> i dont have that in the iso i'm checking
[21:06] <EriC^^> Noreen: try searching for gcc
[21:06] <EriC^^> !info gcc
[21:06] <Noreen> event not found
[21:06] <Bazyl> BluesKaj, ok i'll check my uefi... thx brb
[21:06] <piranah> ok i give up. Ubuntu well never load on this laptop.
[21:07] <BluesKaj> Noreen, you might need build essential if you have to compile
[21:07] <piranah> Well just have to buy a new system
[21:07] <Bleakwiser> yup, using checkinstall to make a package form my sources is working like a charm
[21:07] <Noreen> blueskaj i need libc6-devj and libc-dev for build essential
[21:08] <piranah> if any one can explain the cause of the error in my screen shot I well give it one more try. http://imgur.com/SNWjqoz,7Nk4xS4#1
[21:08] <EriC^^> Noreen: ill brb
[21:08] <imastupidguest> I'm trying to install the html documentation for git on Ubuntu 14.04 but I'm a little unfamiliar with some of the instructions I see on the git wiki for that (it's a very small section in the wiki). I have asciidoc and xmlto. They say I am to run : make install-doc , but do I need to be in any particular dir when I run the command? Any other details I should know that aren't included in that wiki?
[21:08] <imastupidguest>   https://git.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Installation
[21:17] <lnostdal> so .. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/1117292 .. yeah, this isn't working ..  anyone tried 14.10 for server?
[21:17] <lnostdal> (i'm currently trying 14.04.1)
[21:20] <Finetundra> so, anyone know how to change the splash screen?
[21:20] <imastupidguest> Anyone installed html documentation for anything before?
[21:28] <squinty> imastupidguest:  might want to try #git on freenode irc network
[21:30] <Bazyl> hi i can't adjust my sound volume  using top-right corner icon, how to fix it ?
[21:31] <Bazyl> also my hotkeys stop to work
[21:33] <basketballer> anyone here use rtcwake
[21:34] <Noreen> anybody have any idea how to get wireless drivers to work without internet? here's the back story http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2254994
[21:39] <teaearlgraycold> Is there a word for when you take a project and just turn it into a class
[21:39] <dmcdonald> can anyone help with answering why i can ping www.bing.com; www.google.com using proxy settings. but when I try i download and install zabbix packet i get connection refused?
[21:39] <k1l_> dmcdonald: tell apt to use proxy, too
[21:40] <dmcdonald> I'm tring to install with this: wget http://repo.zabbix.com/zabbix/2.4/ubuntu/pool/main/z/zabbix-release/zabbix-release_2.4-1+trusty_all.deb
[21:40] <k1l_> dmcdonald: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto#Setting_up_apt-get_to_use_a_http-proxy
[21:42] <Guest1834> bonsoir
[21:44] <dmcdonald> proxy setting are setup correctly already, but still getting connection refused
[21:48] <gr33n7007h> dmcdonald, set wget to use the proxy
[21:48] <Finetundra> anyone know how to change the splash screen
[21:50] <Basketball> anyone here use rtcwake
[21:50] <bubbasaures> Basketball, State your issue for help.
[21:51] <Basketball> i have rtcwake in a crontab to go to sleep at midnight and wake at 6 am. It goes to sleep when it is supposed to but never auto wakes up
[21:52] <meng> i have an ECS Liva system, but booting 14.04 and 14.10 I get no LAN
[21:53] <bubbasaures> Basketball, There is a man rtcwake not sure if you have looked, not sure myself.
[22:03] <asdfg> hello
[22:17] <Noreen> is there a way to find a list of all the dependencies i need to get gcc working in one go?
[22:17] <Noreen> ?
[22:17] <bekks> Noreen: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[22:20] <xenogear> Hi all, really quick question. What is a website that allows a person to connect to a client?
[22:20] <xenogear> I used a website like that which had it's own user directory and stuff. It was basically like a virtual box but through a web application
[22:21] <VM_iso_> Hey, I have a few questions about the choice of packages in Ubuntu.
[22:22] <Richie086> xenogear: linuxzoo.net
[22:22] <Richie086> try that
[22:23] <cyphase> VM_iso_, no need to ask, just ask :)
[22:23] <antonio_> oi
[22:23] <VM_iso_> Why was the wget 1.16 issue handled with a snapshot instead of a pushed update?
[22:24] <VM_iso_> 1.16 being the fix and 1.15 being the problem.
[22:24] <k1l_> VM_iso_: in general ubuntu doesnt ship updates but patched security and heavy bugfixes
[22:25] <VM_iso_> wget was a security issue, but that is not a major concern because they are shipping the new version in the next version.
[22:26] <k1l_> VM_iso_: you have a ctte?
[22:26] <k1l_> *cve
[22:26] <sad> halo !
[22:26] <VM_iso_> Ya, one sec
[22:27] <k1l_> VM_iso_: if you talk about CVE-2014-4877 that is fixed
[22:27] <sad> I have a problem
[22:27] <VM_iso_> Let me tell you that compiling wget from source isn't easy (dependencies and openssl/GNUTLS recognition by system).
[22:28] <VM_iso_> ubottu, thanks I was looking that up.
[22:28] <k1l_> VM_iso_: please show the exact cve. and as i told you already, the last known cve for wget got fixed with a path. no need to go to version 1.16
[22:28] <VM_iso_> ubottu, I know, but it was helpful. Lawl, all in good humor.
[22:28] <sad> can some people help me please ?
[22:28] <k1l_> !ask | sad
[22:29] <VM_iso_> oh yeah.
[22:29] <VM_iso_> my bad
[22:29] <k1l_> VM_iso_: see the changelog: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/w/wget/wget_1.15-1ubuntu1.14.04.1/changelog
[22:29] <VM_iso_> I see that now. We can move on to my next concern then.
[22:29] <sad> sorry
[22:29] <TheOddByte> canadian?
[22:30] <VM_iso_> The next thing that bothers me is that openssl is listed as 1.0.1f when the latest is 1.0.1j
[22:30] <bittyx-desktop> Hi. I'm running 14.04.1 and I want to install git-cola. However, the stable trusty release, as per this - https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/git-cola - is 1.9.3-1 - how can I install one of the newer versions, e.g. 2.0.6-1? The linked page lists that version for vivid.
[22:30] <bittyx-desktop> Thanks!
[22:30] <k1l_> VM_iso_: again: ubuntu does patches. dont just blindly look at the version number
[22:30] <bubbasaures> bittyx-desktop, Not any way technically supported here and a bad idea.
[22:31] <VM_iso_> Go ahead and help bittyx first, mine is mostly an inquiry.
[22:33] <VM_iso_> @k1l What would be the best way to be aware of when Ubuntu is safely patched? (Since I can't rely on version numbers).
[22:33] <k1l_> VM_iso_: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/
[22:33] <k1l_> VM_iso_: and see the changelogs of the packages you concern
[22:34] <bittyx-desktop> bubbasaures: I know it isn't a supported way, and I shouldn't ask for help if stuff doesn't work, so I'm aware I'd be doing it on my own responsibility.
[22:34] <bittyx-desktop> Is it a better idea (and I use the term loosely) to add a PPA like https://launchpad.net/~tsvetko.tsvetkov/+archive/ubuntu/trusty-backports and install from there?
[22:34] <VM_iso_> Okay, I've heard of this before, but wanted to make sure that Ubuntu did the same.
[22:34] <VM_iso_> Thanks
[22:35] <VM_iso_> @bittyx-desktop You could always compile.
[22:35] <bubbasaures> bittyx-desktop, PPA's are not supported, it is not kosher to ask for a install from another release, we keep the repos with the release by and large.
[22:35] <Boreeas> I installed texmaker and babel-lang-german, and put "\usepackage[ngerman]{babel}" on top of my latex file. But texmaker still underlines every word in the document
[22:35] <Boreeas> Any idea why?
[22:35] <bittyx-desktop> Or is discussing (not debugging, mind you) 3rd party PPAs considered off-topic here?
[22:35] <lnostdal> ok, so 14.04.1 server won't even install  ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1117292 )   .. and once 14.10 server installs there's no networking packages installed at all (even though i configured wlan when installing) .....and nothing happens when plugging in an ethernet cable  .. no dhcp  .. nothing ......great
[22:35] <bubbasaures> !ppa | bittyx-desktop
[22:36] <VM_iso_> bitty-desktop I could compile and share deb with you.
[22:36] <bekks> lnostdal: I'm deploying 14.04 server without issues. Whats the exact issue you have during installation?
[22:36] <bubbasaures> bittyx-desktop, YOu would talk with the maintainer of any 3rd party repos access, or their support.
[22:37] <VM_iso_> @bittyx-desktop I could compile and share deb with you.
[22:37] <bittyx-desktop> bubbasaures: I know non-official PPAs aren't supported here, and I agree with that, I just want to emphasize that I'm not asking about a problem I have with a 3rd party PPA, but rather, whether I can do the install from the official repo (but a future Ubuntu release), or is that not something that's possible or makes sense, in which case I'd use the 3rd party PPA?
[22:37] <k1l_> VM_iso_: compiling from source doenst ship updates. so you are on your own then.
[22:37] <VM_iso_> checkinstall
[22:37] <bittyx-desktop> VM_iso_: Thank you very much for offering; however, the PPA I found has the just-before-latest version available.
[22:38] <bittyx-desktop> So you don't need to bother.
[22:38] <bubbasaures> bittyx-desktop, This is not supported here "whether I can do the install from the official repo (but a future Ubuntu release)"
[22:38] <k1l_> bittyx-desktop: what was the main issue?
[22:38] <bittyx-desktop> Also, the git-cola website has a compiled latest version, but I'd rather use a PPA for easier updates.
[22:38] <k1l_> bittyx-desktop: mixing repos is going to make trouble. so no. dont do that
[22:38] <bittyx-desktop> bubbasaures: Okay, thank you.
[22:38] <bittyx-desktop> k1l_: Yeah, no issue really, I was just asking whether it's possible to install from the official repos but a future release.
[22:39] <bittyx-desktop> I can see how this might be a bad idea - just wanted to know whether people do that.
[22:39] <bubbasaures> bittyx-desktop, If you were forced to a install than help may be here, it is not a fine line but we have to keep it simple to some extent to start with. Mixing apps means mixing dependencies this is an issue at times in upgrades....etc
[22:40] <VM_iso_> Is there an alternative you can use?
[22:40] <k1l_> bittyx-desktop: if you want stableness use LTS. then you dont want bleeding edge anyway. or you use the non-lts and uograde all 6 months
[22:41] <bittyx-desktop> bubbasaures: Nah, I completely understand the policy of supporting only official and stable stuff - otherwise, with the variety of stuff people can do, it would probably become awful here (and other support channels).
[22:41] <k1l_> bittyx-desktop: "i want the fastest car with the lowest fuel consuption" is not going to work. so choose on and live with the decision
[22:41] <bittyx-desktop> k1l_: I like my base system to be stable, but I also want to install certain bleeding edge tools (on my own responsibility).
[22:41] <bubbasaures> bittyx-desktop, Yeah that is the rhetoric, the complexity, heh I never get involved there if I can.
[22:42] <bittyx-desktop> I know this doesn't always work, but there's no harm in trying.
[22:42] <k1l_> bittyx-desktop: then you are on your own there. see if there is a ppa. but we cant support that
[22:43] <CoC_towlie> can someone help me with virtualbox share? i need to process some file in the linux guest.  (the tool is linux only) However when i drop it into the virtual box share from the host (windows 7) i cant see the file in linux guest
[22:43] <VM_iso_> I get that you want a stable system, but why so discouraging of bleeding edge software?
[22:43] <k1l_> CoC_towlie: guest additions installed on the ubuntu guest?
[22:43] <CoC_towlie> k1l_, yes
[22:43] <bittyx-desktop> Yeah, my question was more along the lines of "can I do this thing that might not work", not "I did this stupid unsupported thing, please help". So all is understood, and thanks everyone for the tips.
[22:44] <VM_iso_> @Coc_towlie Ya, I've had the same problem in the last two versions of Virtualbox.
[22:45] <VM_iso_> @Coc_towlie It may be a regression, but I haven't confirmed that.
[22:45] <bubbasaures> bittyx-desktop, Not sure if you realize this but just asking has a red flag that makes us wonder how whole you will dig. ;)
[22:45] <bittyx-desktop> VM_iso_: Okay, so to be concise - the official repo has git-cola 1.9.3 for trusty and 2.0.6 for vivid. There's a 3rd party PPA with 2.0.7 for trusty. I thought I might be better off installing the "official" 2.0.6 from a future release, as opposed to a 3rd party package for the release I'm running. But as mentioned by others, this is probably a bad idea, so I'll stick with the 3rd party repo.
[22:46] <bittyx-desktop> bubbasaures: Sure, I get that. Thanks for being understanding either way!
[22:47] <bittyx-desktop> bubbasaures: In short, the answer to "How do I do X" is sometimes not "You do it this way", but rather "Why would you want to do X?" :)
[22:48] <bubbasaures> bittyx-desktop, I know why.
[22:48] <bubbasaures> at least I suspect I do anyway
[22:49] <k1l_> i think all is said on that theoretical issue  then :)
[22:49] <bubbasaures> nothing bad we all want to help and be sure good info is there.
[22:49] <bittyx-desktop> Thanks again all. This channel is great!
[22:51] <CoC_towlie> VM_iso_, ok so did you have a work around?
[22:51] <lnostdal> this is terrible ..   why doesn't ubuntu server do dhcp automatically when an ethernet cable is connected?
[22:52] <compdoc> lnostdal, so ppl like you can access the web?
[22:52] <bekks> Because it is a server, which has a permanent network connection :)
[22:52] <lnostdal> nothing worcks
[22:52] <lnostdal> works*
[22:52] <VM_iso_> @CoC_towlie Not at the moment, I've been busy and haven't required it so I haven't looked for a solution. I will look.
[22:54] <VM_iso_> @CoC_towlie Have you updated Virtualbox since installing guest additions? If you don't have the latest guest additions installed that may be the culprit.
[22:54] <compdoc> lnostdal, what doesnt work?
[22:54] <VM_iso_> @CoC_towlie I'll make sure mine is updated (don't think it is) and I'll get back to you.
[22:55] <lnostdal> compdoc: well, the installer doesn't seem to install networking packages at all ..
[22:55] <bekks> lnostdal: How do you confirm that - which package(s) is/are missing?
[22:55] <compdoc> lnostdal, the install is finished?
[22:56] <compdoc> lnostdal, what does the command 'ifconfig' show?
[22:56] <lnostdal> compdoc: yes, it did ..   the installer was fine; it found wlan and everything ..   but now after having booted into the system it can't even get a connection via ethernet cable
[22:56] <lnostdal> compdoc: nothing .. no devices
[22:56] <lnostdal> compdoc: well, except the loopback one
[22:56] <bekks> lnostdal: And whats the output of "ifconfig -a"?
[22:57] <lnostdal> i can force them up via ip link set .. .. ..
[22:57] <compdoc> lnostdal, oh, you dont have a wired connection? I dont know much about wireless
[22:57] <lnostdal> this is a laptop with both wired and wireless, compdoc
[22:58] <lnostdal> bekks: that does indeed show the two networking devices on this machine: wlan0 and p5p1
[22:58] <bekks> lnostdal: So all you have to is is configuring your interfaces. No packages are missing actually, I bet. :)
[22:59] <compdoc> p5p1 means its using that Consistent Network Device Naming thing. I dont like it
[23:02] <lnostdal> ah, perhaps that's not so common ..      i'd normally expect even a server install to be able to get up and running with networking via cable automatically
[23:02] <lnostdal> i've never heard about "p5p1" naming
[23:02] <bekks> lnostdal: Which is a wrong assumption, basically.
[23:02] <bekks> lnostdal: So just configure your interfaces.
[23:19] <yoasif>  question about using git bisect when trying to track down a kernel regression -- what do i do if one of the proposed commits cannot be built?
[23:22] <VM_iso_> @CoC_towlie It fails to build the main guest additions module in 4.3.20
[23:24] <anew> default iptables.firewall.rules anyone have the default file of this ?
[23:31] <dts> anew, i do
[23:31] <dts> do you still need it
[23:31] <anew> yes plz
[23:31] <CoC_towlie> VM_iso_, its ok i will just use something else like ssh
[23:31] <dts> where do i find it?
[23:31] <anew> wot
[23:31] <anew> find what ?
[23:31] <dts> iptables.firewall.rules
[23:31] <anew> ah
[23:32] <anew>  /etc
[23:33] <dts> never mind i guess i dont have it
[23:33] <dts> sorry
[23:33] <dts> bbl
[23:33] <michagogo> Hi, anyone have any idea why ssh logins aren't going into /var/log/auth on a 14.04 server?
[23:34] <michagogo>  /var/log/auth.log, I mean
[23:34] <michagogo> There are only about 30 lines
[23:34] <michagogo> Last one is Jun 16 15:48:38 <hostname> sshd[1405]: Server listening on :: port 1022.
[23:35] <michagogo> I think June was around when the server was first installed
[23:36] <michagogo> Also, sshd isn't running on that port
[23:48] <redban> hi , how do I add Oracle Java 8 to PATH?
[23:48] <redban> when double clik .jar file, it says I'm not running java from its directory
[23:49] <rgb3> rgb3 Welcome to the channel
[23:50] <rgb3> john Welcome to the channel
[23:50] <rgb3> piez Welcome to the channel
[23:50] <redban>  how do I add Oracle Java 8 to PATH?
[23:51] <redban> when double clik .jar file, it says I'm not running java from its directory
[23:52] <kantlivelong> anyone know why kernel 3.16 doesnt show ondemand cpu governor?
[23:53] <piez> clear
[23:58] <kantlivelong> anyone here having issues with cpufreq not showing ondemand in 3.16?