[07:00] <darkxst> Noskcaj, hmm, I would have though you would well know where to get help for gnome stuff! (re MOTU discussions)
[07:02] <mgedmin> octoquad, what kind of window focusing issues?  I haven't noticed any
[07:02] <Noskcaj> darkxst, I asked upstream, he said WIP. I think i mentioned it here one time, but i wasn't going to chase too much up till gnome 3.14 was done
[07:02] <Noskcaj> brb
[07:03] <darkxst> Noskcaj, CSD's patches are fairly simple with 3.14, you could have the -desktop team, or even me
[11:44]  * eliasps waves
[13:36] <AndChat|189569> hi all
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[15:44] <octoquad> mgedmin, I'm having this on two seperate machines, one freshly installed with 14.04 and upgraded to 14.10 and one from 13.04 -> 13.10 -> 14.04 -> 14.10.  If Window is used for focus, the only way I can focus on it is to click on the title bar. Any other part of the window including input boxes does not focus on the desired window. Sloppy kind a works for me, but it's quirky when you move the mouse out the way with dual view and it focuses on ano
[15:44] <octoquad> ther app while typing a e-mail as in example and it loses focus
[15:45] <octoquad> I've decided to revert the ppa, and just setup a new partition for VV testing and share my home directory between the two.
[16:14] <mgedmin> octoquad, what focus mode do you use?  I use sloppy focus myself
[16:15] <mgedmin> there was a change in sloppy focus behavior in gnome 3.something-recent-but-not-very: actual focus change happens a second after you stop moving the mouse
[16:16] <mgedmin> instead of instantly
[16:16] <mgedmin> it was so you could use application menus without accidentally focusing other apps while on the way
[16:17] <octoquad> mgedmin, at the moment, I'm using sloppy, but prior to using the staging-ppa it was click. Sorry I said window previously, when I meant click.
[16:18] <octoquad> click in 3.12 works perfectly.
[16:24] <octoquad> I'm going to install VV now and see if it is present in a fresh install as well as give feedback to darkxst regarding wine and fglrx for #1382563. I'll be back in about two hours.
[17:11] <eliasps> Hi everyone
[18:18] <KeithIMyers> Morning All
[18:23] <eliasps> Hey KeithIMyers
[18:23] <KeithIMyers> Mornin
[19:04] <octoquad> darkxst, is it worthwhile filing bugs / updating bugs for vivid now?
[19:07] <Noskcaj> darkxst, If you get the chance then, could you please make a patch?
[19:59] <darkxst> octoquad, of course it is worthwhile
[19:59] <darkxst> Noskcaj, I can take a look, but probably not this week
[20:02] <Noskcaj> ty
[20:49] <darkxst> Noskcaj, Actually, done http://pastebin.com/bWMK4gz0
[20:58] <darkxst> Noskcaj, https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=741044
[20:58] <ubot5> Gnome bug 741044 in general "Use traditional titlebars on !GNOME DE's" [Normal,Unconfirmed]
[20:59] <Noskcaj> ty. I also emailed the patch directly to the upstream dev
[21:04] <darkxst> np