Jeeves_Moss | how do I convert a large number of windows IIS files into somethign that AWStats can read and add to the current log set? I've pulled them off of an old server that was decomissioned. | 00:34 |
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Alina-malina | good mornin | 06:04 |
lordievader | Good morning. | 08:16 |
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leeyaa | hello | 09:32 |
leeyaa | i did upgrade of 12.04 LTS to 14.04 LTS, xen server host and it seems upgrade messed up xen hypervisor versioning | 09:33 |
leeyaa | i have 4.4 installed, but when i try to use xl or xm it is looking for 4.1 | 09:34 |
leeyaa | any idea how to resolve it ? | 09:34 |
smb | leeyaa, do you still have any 4.1 packages installed (dpkg -l|grep xen) except the hypervisor one? | 09:35 |
leeyaa | smb: yeah it seems libxen-4.1 is still present along with libxen-4.4 | 09:36 |
smb | leeyaa, Ok, that one might be ok while transitioning. Just to make sure, you rebooted after the upgrade? And if you have grub menu visible make sure the right hv is selected | 09:39 |
leeyaa | smb: server was rebooted. i have no console access though, so i cant check visually which kernel is selected. check with grub maybe ? | 09:40 |
leeyaa | it is using 3.2.0-31 so i guess thats older | 09:40 |
leeyaa | hm | 09:40 |
leeyaa | latest is 3.13 | 09:41 |
smb | for 14.04, right | 09:41 |
smb | you can check /boot/grub/grub.cfg for which entry is default and what that points to | 09:42 |
leeyaa | that means older kernel is booted | 09:42 |
leeyaa | it is set to set default="0>2" | 09:42 |
leeyaa | how to tell which one is latest and choose it ? | 09:42 |
smb | Actually with 14.04 there should be a /etc/default/grud.d/xen.cfg which should override the default. There would be a message about it when running update-grub though | 09:43 |
leeyaa | nah i have no /etc/default/grud.d/xen.cfg | 09:44 |
smb | default should be a text string "set default="Ubuntu GNU/Linux, with Xen hypervisor"" | 09:44 |
leeyaa | ah sorry typo | 09:44 |
leeyaa | smb: i believe it does boot with xen but it boots older kernel | 09:45 |
leeyaa | so it is a matter of changing boot order i guess | 09:45 |
leeyaa | and yes XEN_OVERRIDE_GRUB_DEFAULT=1 | 09:46 |
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smb | Depends on whether that default string ended up in /boot/grub/grub.cfg. If it is a number it boots the x.th element with the string it would be the first menuentry with that string | 09:48 |
leeyaa | smb: i have no entry for 3.13.0-40 in grub config | 09:49 |
leeyaa | lets see i might have forgotten to run update-grub | 09:50 |
leeyaa | i though upgrade scripts do that for me | 09:51 |
smb | Yeah, they should | 09:51 |
smb | assuming you ran do-release-upgrade | 09:53 |
leeyaa | i did | 09:53 |
leeyaa | well update-grub detects the new kernel | 09:53 |
leeyaa | but i have no menu entry for it http://paste.ubuntu.com/9342672/ | 09:53 |
kevindf | Hello, I'm trying to ping on my Ubuntu server but getting "Operation not permitted" when I disable my firewall I can ping perfectly. I've tried analyzing my Iptables http://pastebin.com/ESVWHmjN but don't see wich rule is not allowing the ping. I've heard flushing my iptables would work but I don't want to do that | 09:57 |
kevindf | Anyone know what might be wrong in my Iptables rules? | 09:57 |
smb | thats odd... does it contain any "Xen 4.4" or even "3.13" for kernel versions at all? | 09:58 |
smb | leeyaa, Somehow when I would do the same grepping as you on a 14.04 server I get a completely different generic layout. http://paste.ubuntu.com/9342755/ The one you got feels like a file generated in 12.04 | 10:04 |
leeyaa | smb: yes. i just need to force it to boot from latest kernel | 10:04 |
smb | leeyaa, more latest hypervisor | 10:06 |
leeyaa | smb: yes | 10:06 |
smb | You should have a /boot/xen-4.4-amd64 as well | 10:06 |
smb | This one will change /sys/hypervisor/version/* which is used by the tools | 10:07 |
leeyaa | smb: yeah i have /boot/xen-4.4-amd64.gz | 10:07 |
smb | leeyaa, I would probably check the access/mod time of /boot/grub/grub.cfg to ensure this actually gets updated | 10:08 |
smb | Since you ran update-grub again it should be todays date | 10:09 |
leeyaa | smb: it does | 10:09 |
leeyaa | -r--r--r-- 1 root root 20924 Dec 2 10:59 /boot/grub/grub.cfg | 10:09 |
leeyaa | ffs | 10:11 |
leeyaa | i had update-grub and update-grub2 | 10:11 |
leeyaa | this box is such a mess | 10:11 |
smb | leeyaa, Yeah, I was just starting to wonder whether grub-common was the right version... Actually I think the move from grub to grub2 was pre-12.04 but one had to manually run a script... | 10:13 |
leeyaa | now that grep sees the new xen kernel | 10:14 |
leeyaa | but how the heck to force it to boot from ti :D | 10:14 |
smb | leeyaa, If its the newer layout the default string boots the first xen entry and through the ordering it should be the latest... | 10:16 |
smb | Its hard to say for sure with an unknown boot config :) | 10:16 |
leeyaa | smb: thats the whole grub.cfg http://paste.ubuntu.com/9342904/ | 10:18 |
leeyaa | i miss grub1 :D | 10:18 |
smb | leeyaa, the cfg file was a bit more human readable but from the functionality I rather like grub2 ;) | 10:19 |
leeyaa | smb: ok then how to choose 3.13 ;p | 10:20 |
smb | leeyaa, I believe that if you reboot now, you would be fine | 10:20 |
leeyaa | smb: nope tried | 10:20 |
leeyaa | it boots into 3.2.0-31-generic | 10:20 |
smb | Oh wait ... there was some script which was supposed to migrate people from grub to grub2. If there is still grub1 there it selects what to boot from /boot/grub/menu.cfg | 10:22 |
leeyaa | what about another approach - is it possible to check which entry is 3.13 and force it to boot that entry ? | 10:23 |
leeyaa | ima change GRUB_DEFAULT="0>2" to GRUB_DEFAULT="Xen 4.4-amd64" | 10:25 |
leeyaa | thats what i have on the servers without problems | 10:25 |
smb | leeyaa, The main question right now is whether this servers uses menu.cfg or grub.cfg. The grub.cfg you posted should boot the right kernel. You probably should check whether the kernel/hv you get booted into makes sense when looking at menu.cfg | 10:27 |
leeyaa | smb: do you mean menu.lst ? | 10:28 |
smb | leeyaa, Ah yeah that... it has been a while | 10:29 |
leeyaa | i have no idea how to determine that. menu.lst looks normal too | 10:29 |
smb | leeyaa, maybe pastbinit for me, too | 10:30 |
leeyaa | this is menu.lst smb http://paste.ubuntu.com/9342994/ | 10:31 |
smb | leeyaa, Right, that default is 0 and the first element to hit is the new hv/kernel... | 10:33 |
leeyaa | exaftly ... | 10:33 |
leeyaa | exactly ... | 10:33 |
smb | really strange... hm, is there something with 'grub-editenv /boot/grub/grubenv list' | 10:34 |
smb | something like next_entry set... | 10:34 |
leeyaa | smb: that prints nothing | 10:38 |
smb | ok, so not overriding the default there... hm | 10:38 |
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smb | leeyaa, The only one odd thing with your grub.cfg I notice is that the script order might be modified. By default that would be 10_linux, then 20_linux_xen. And yours is 20_linux_xen and the 21_linux | 10:41 |
smb | Maybe that creates a confusing cfg file. But the whole file now only has Xen 4.4 elements, so despite a 3.2 kernel grep . /sys/hypervisor/version/* should now be 4.4 and the xen cmds working | 10:45 |
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leeyaa | smb: nope xen version wont change until i dont change the kernel ;p | 10:51 |
smb | leeyaa, wrong. the dom0 kernel has nothing to do with the hv version | 10:52 |
leeyaa | smb: well /sys/hypervisor/version/ still shows 4.1 | 10:53 |
Jeeves_Moss | is anyone here good with AWstats? I combined my old IIS logs with my apache logs, and now it's skipping everything when it goes to do the logging run | 10:54 |
smb | In that case, whatever you booted was not using the grub.cfg nor the menu.lst you look at. Because both now have no xen-4.1 to boot | 10:54 |
smb | leeyaa, Just a guess, but I saw root=md0, so you normally would have /boot on a seperate fs/partition | 10:55 |
smb | leeyaa, Make sure that is mounted | 10:55 |
leeyaa | smb: yeah its mounted | 11:00 |
smb | leeyaa, Somehow I would be at the end of my knowledge. Whatever is booting the system, it cannot be possibly using either config file that currently is in /boot/grub. I don't know how to figure out what gets booted. Not sure I want to suggest reinstalling grub2 to the mbr on a host I had no console... | 11:07 |
leeyaa | smb: i think it is installing grub on wrong disk rofl | 11:16 |
smb | leeyaa, Well that does explain a lot. So maybe dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc lets you set things right? | 11:17 |
tafa2 | salt puppet or chef? | 11:46 |
NigeyS | would anyone have an idea how to manage vhosts on ubuntu 14.04 that doesnt involve storing the vhost configs in sites-available and sites-enabled ? i'd like to store the configs on a nfs mount instead. | 11:59 |
Odd_Bloke | NigeyS: For Apache? | 12:03 |
Odd_Bloke | NigeyS: Assuming so: /etc/apache2/apache2.conf has an "IncludeOptional sites-enabled/*.conf"; you should be able to do something along those lines pointing at your own path. | 12:04 |
NigeyS | Odd_Bloke yup, 2.4.7 i think it is | 12:06 |
NigeyS | i see. thanks, i'll take a look at that, our eold setup was on RHEL so it was just Include /bla/vhosts/*.conf | 12:07 |
Odd_Bloke | NigeyS: IncludeOptional just avoids erroring if there isn't anything to include. | 12:08 |
Odd_Bloke | NigeyS: So essentially the same thing. :) | 12:08 |
NigeyS | got ya, that's very helpful, thanks! | 12:09 |
NigeyS | while i'm here, dont suppose anyone knows how to get rid of this from dmesg .. ? seems to be specific to EC2 instances .. xen:balloon: reserve_additional_memory: add_memory() failed: -17 | 12:13 |
pmatulis | morning | 12:15 |
acmehandle | I'm on a VPS that runs ubuntu server, is there a way I can save the template, or take a snapshot that way if I need to rebuild I dont have to start from scratch? | 12:16 |
NigeyS | acmehandle does the provider you have the vps with not have a snapshot function ? | 12:19 |
acmehandle | They claim they do but when I click on the backup link nothing shows up and they claim they take a nightly snapsho | 12:19 |
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NigeyS | might be worth emailing them to see why nothing shows up | 12:24 |
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smb | NigeyS, the ballon message should go away with the latest kernels that just were released | 12:44 |
smb | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1304001 | 12:44 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1304001 in linux "xen:balloon errors in 14.04 beta" [High,Fix released] | 12:45 |
NigeyS | smb nice! thanks, ill update the kernel then. | 13:00 |
kully3xf | Hey all. I have two folders i've been rsyncing. /home/hcc/hcc to /var/www/hcc : somehow they've become hardlinked. I need to delete them, and start over, I deleted the /var/www folder, but cannot delete the /home directory as it tells me device or resource busy | 13:16 |
kully3xf | I've deleted everything in side, it's an empty directory | 13:17 |
NigeyS | you want to delete /home ? | 13:20 |
kully3xf | no just the one folder in the user's directory. /home/hcc/hcc | 13:21 |
kully3xf | rm -rf returns rm: cannot remove `hcc': Device or resource busy | 13:22 |
kully3xf | but there's nothign in the directory | 13:22 |
NigeyS | ls -lah show any hidden files ? | 13:22 |
RoyK | NigeyS: -a does | 13:22 |
kully3xf | nah | 13:22 |
kully3xf | total 0 | 13:22 |
RoyK | kully3xf: what about 'lsof /home/hcc/hcc' ? | 13:23 |
kully3xf | and ls -al on the directory shows d, so it's not linked | 13:23 |
NigeyS | weird, but yeah try lsof | 13:23 |
kully3xf | command bash twice user me, fd cwd, type dir, device 202,80, size /off 0 node number name hcc | 13:24 |
kully3xf | both are the same | 13:24 |
kully3xf | lsof: WARNING: can't stat() ext4 file system /home/hcc_bids/hcc_bids (deleted) Output information may be incomplete. COMMAND PID USER FD TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME bash 9078 {myuser} cwd DIR 202,80 0 5161011 hcc bash 19106 {myuser} cwd DIR 202,80 0 5161011 hcc_bids | 13:26 |
kully3xf | no ideas? :( | 13:36 |
ej | how can I set an interface to use a static IP? | 13:41 |
ej | always, as soon as it's connected | 13:42 |
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kully3xf | http://www.howtoforge.com/linux-basics-set-a-static-ip-on-ubuntu | 13:44 |
ej | kully3xf: thanks | 13:56 |
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kevindf | Is there a free version available of Nagios for home users? | 14:38 |
Pici | kevindf: Er... yes? | 14:39 |
RoyK | kevindf: apt-get install nagios? ;) | 14:42 |
kevindf | I tought Nagios was for enterprise only :) just noticed now they have Nagios Core | 14:42 |
RoyK | kevindf: to be honest, choose something else | 14:43 |
kevindf | How about Monin? | 14:43 |
RoyK | kevindf: nagios hasn't been updated much the last 10 years or so | 14:43 |
kevindf | Monit* | 14:43 |
Pici | I use icinga personally. it is a fork of nagios. | 14:43 |
RoyK | kevindf: I use munin *and* icinga (a nagios fork), and we have some old xymon, and we're moving towards zabbix | 14:43 |
RoyK | munin is really nice for trending | 14:43 |
RoyK | and easy to setup | 14:44 |
RoyK | one system doesn't exclude the other | 14:44 |
kevindf | alright, thank you for your advice. will take a look at icinga and munin | 14:44 |
Pici | I've been using pnp4nagios recently, but munin is nice for things that you don't necessarily need alerts for (although I think it might be able to do those as well) | 14:44 |
pmatulis | both munin and nagios are in main which makes them fully supported | 14:46 |
RoyK | kevindf: I'd start off with munin - it won't hurt - then look into icinga and zabbix and whatnot | 14:48 |
RoyK | kevindf: icinga is built on the old nagios horse (it's a fork plus a bunch of new code), and I'm not sure how good it is compared to other tools these days | 14:50 |
kevindf | Will do that, It's more for experimenting that I'm installing monitoring software so it's a good thing to test them all out | 14:51 |
RoyK | ah :) | 14:51 |
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Alina-malina | hmmm how can i stop servers all together, apache and mysql with 1 line of command? | 15:07 |
* pmatulis kind of wants to say 'sudo poweroff' but no | 15:08 | |
pmatulis | Alina-malina: you could prolly do some upstart stuff to do it. otherwise a shell script | 15:09 |
Alina-malina | well sometimes i need to stop both to make some c hanges quickly, since it is high loaded resourse | 15:10 |
Alina-malina | so good to know such features | 15:10 |
Alina-malina | maybe some .bat script? | 15:10 |
lordievader | Alina-malina: Some bash script, or some upstart script. I've written a upstart script that starts/stops pulseaudio+mpd. | 15:14 |
Alina-malina | hmmm i have heared about that stuff first time | 15:15 |
leeyaa | smb: thanks for the help earlier. it was failed raid ;p | 15:54 |
leeyaa | which really explains all | 15:55 |
smb | leeyaa, awesome... not. but you're welcome :) | 15:55 |
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acmehandle | How do I set up my var/log/syslog ? | 16:30 |
acmehandle | The machine is running but the log is 0 | 16:30 |
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crinkle | hello, I was directed to ask bigjools or Odd_Bloke about getting packages in ubuntu cloud archive, are they around? | 17:55 |
pmatulis | crinkle: they appear to be | 17:55 |
crinkle | I'm hoping to see https://pypi.python.org/pypi/python-openstackclient in UCA at some point and wondering what the process and timeline would be | 17:56 |
pmatulis | crinkle: if no help here then i suggest sending a note to ubuntu-server mailing list | 17:57 |
crinkle | pmatulis: great, thank you | 17:58 |
hadifarnoud | I just need a very simple email forwarding on my server. for example, forward invite@domain.com to something@gmail.com | 19:28 |
pmatulis | hadifarnoud: this server is acting as the final destination MTA? | 19:29 |
hadifarnoud | pmatulis: not sure what that means | 19:29 |
pmatulis | hadifarnoud: what happens when you do not have such a forwarding set up? | 19:29 |
hadifarnoud | pmatulis: delivery failure. I have no mail server whatsoever | 19:30 |
pmatulis | hadifarnoud: well, then forwarding won't work b/c the server is not even receiving the mail | 19:31 |
hadifarnoud | pmatulis: I know. my question wasn't about the forwarding part only. I need a light setup to just receive email on my server. | 19:31 |
hadifarnoud | whaat should I use? | 19:31 |
sarnold | do you need to receive email at this server at all? you could just let google handle it all for you | 19:32 |
hadifarnoud | sarnold: unfortunately, Google apps blocked Iran IPs. sanctions suck | 19:33 |
pmatulis | hadifarnoud: you need to configure an MTA (mail receiving server) that receives invite@domain.com | 19:33 |
sarnold | hadifarnoud: ah. that is very frustrating. | 19:34 |
hadifarnoud | pmatulis: can you name a few? I'd google for tuts | 19:34 |
sarnold | hadifarnoud: take a look at postfix or exim; I slightly prefer postfix but both are fine mail servers. | 19:34 |
hadifarnoud | sarnold: not to mention it's stupid. what does Google have to do with anything | 19:34 |
hadifarnoud | cool | 19:35 |
pmatulis | hadifarnoud: no, no, you need to have some control over an MTA. do you? | 19:35 |
hadifarnoud | pmatulis: what do you mean by control? | 19:35 |
pmatulis | hadifarnoud: ability to configure it via root privileges | 19:35 |
hadifarnoud | pmatulis: yep | 19:35 |
hadifarnoud | I'm thinking about having a separate mail server. it looks easier :D | 19:35 |
pmatulis | hadifarnoud: good. what software is it running? | 19:36 |
sarnold | hadifarnoud: gmail's anti-spam is significantly better than anything I have ever configured myself. | 19:36 |
hadifarnoud | pmatulis: nginx and mysql | 19:36 |
pmatulis | hadifarnoud: hmm, i'm probably misunderstanding your situation. is invite@domain.com an active email? | 19:36 |
hadifarnoud | pmatulis: nope. we do not have ANY mail server at all. if you send one to that address, it will not deliver. | 19:37 |
pmatulis | hadifarnoud: ok finally | 19:38 |
hadifarnoud | this is a quick fix to be able to receive email at invite@domain.com for now | 19:38 |
pmatulis | hadifarnoud: sadly, email servers are never a quick fix | 19:38 |
sarnold | so true. | 19:39 |
pmatulis | hadifarnoud: but postfix is the standard MTA in the Ubuntu community | 19:39 |
hadifarnoud | pmatulis: now I have to find a tut that just handles postfix | 19:40 |
pmatulis | hadifarnoud: well not really | 19:40 |
pmatulis | hadifarnoud: actually, yes, if you will be forwarding to gmail | 19:40 |
hadifarnoud | :) | 19:41 |
pmatulis | hadifarnoud: your biggest concern is to not become an open relay. and no port blocking from your ISP? | 19:42 |
benbro1 | what happens when two programs compete over bandwidth? | 19:42 |
hadifarnoud | pmatulis: dude. email servers are hard | 19:42 |
pmatulis | hadifarnoud: yeah | 19:43 |
benbro1 | I have a video streaming server and a web server serving static files | 19:43 |
hadifarnoud | pmatulis: what should I set FQDN? mail.domain.com or just domain.com? | 19:43 |
benbro1 | can I give more priority to the streaming server? | 19:43 |
pmatulis | hadifarnoud: dude, you'll need to study :) | 19:43 |
sarnold | benbro1: yes, http://lartc.org/howto/ | 19:43 |
hadifarnoud | pmatulis: I know, right? | 19:43 |
benbro1 | sarnold: reading thanks | 19:44 |
hadifarnoud | just not clear FQDN role is here. if my mail is me@domain.com, then FQDN should be domain.com or I can use anything and set MX to that? | 19:44 |
pmatulis | hadifarnoud: you'll need a domain bro | 19:45 |
hadifarnoud | pmatulis: got one. camva.ir | 19:45 |
pmatulis | hadifarnoud: good | 19:45 |
hadifarnoud | so I can set hostname to mail.camva.ir? | 19:45 |
hadifarnoud | or has FQDN has to be camva.ir? | 19:46 |
pmatulis | hadifarnoud: it can be anything but that sounds very good | 19:46 |
hadifarnoud | ok cool | 19:46 |
pmatulis | hadifarnoud: what matters in terms of names is in DNS | 19:46 |
pmatulis | hadifarnoud: but it's good to keep them in sync | 19:46 |
hadifarnoud | I thought so pmatulis | 19:46 |
teward | FQDN means fully qualified domain name. mail.camva.ir is acceptable. doombringer.domain.tld is also another acceptable, so long as it resolves to one specific server that doesn't have a dynamic rotation | 19:46 |
teward | (dynamic mailserver IPs that change frequently likely will end up badly for one) | 19:46 |
hadifarnoud | aww, thanks teward. | 19:47 |
teward | (dynamically changing IPs on mailservers might usually end up flagged as possible spam in some spamfiltering) | 19:47 |
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aandy_ | hi guys, is it possible to emulate VT/tty/console over ssh? as in, "virtual" keyboard over ssh? | 20:17 |
sarnold | aandy_: screen / tmux / script do various amounts of terminal emulation | 20:21 |
aandy_ | sarnold: neat idea with screen/tmux, i hadn't thought of that. scripting as in bash + /dev/tty or? | 20:22 |
sarnold | aandy_: the script(1) tool, it records what you type and the 'responses' and saves them to a file named 'typescript'. pretty neat if very old school :) | 20:24 |
aandy_ | sarnold: nice! :) thanks a lot | 20:26 |
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K4k | I've just set up apt-mirror and downloaded everything (I think) to be a full blown package mirror. I can access /pub/ubuntu and see /dists and /pool in there but when I try to install with it set as my mirror it fails with "The installer failed to download a file from the mirror" | 21:38 |
K4k | Is there a way to figure out what file or why it might be failing? | 21:39 |
K4k | oh... wait it's on another tty :) | 21:39 |
Patrickdk | no idea, it worked for me when I used to do that | 21:39 |
K4k | it's looking for /pub/ubuntu/dists/trysty/universe/debian-installer/binary-amd64/Packages | 21:40 |
K4k | Mine stops at universe and jumps straight to binary-amd64 | 21:40 |
K4k | Ah, it appears main/debian-installer is a seperate thing and needs it's own line in apt/mirror.list | 21:44 |
K4k | @_@ | 21:44 |
NigeyS | random question, but how do make text BOLD in a shell script? | 21:51 |
Patrickdk | depends on your term | 21:51 |
NigeyS | true, was thinking of using tput | 21:52 |
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userf | what u think about investing in silver? | 22:06 |
ScottK | I think it's off topic for a channel about Ubuntu Server. | 22:08 |
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grendal_prime | im trying to set up letodms but im having a really werid issue | 23:25 |
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