[04:29] <Kilos> morning peeps
[04:36] <nlsthzn> o/
[04:43] <Kilos> hiya nlsthzn 
[04:44] <nlsthzn> how are you uncle Kilos?
[04:44] <Kilos> ok ty and you? head not too bad today so yay
[04:44] <Kilos> you home?
[04:47] <Kilos> nlsthzn: teach me how to go to the re-evaluation thing and be able to edit it please
[04:48] <nlsthzn> do you have a launchpad account uncle Kilos?
[04:48] <Kilos> ya
[04:49] <Kilos> ~msdomdonner
[04:49] <Kilos> hehe
[04:49] <nlsthzn> :)
[04:50] <nlsthzn> open this link
[04:50] <nlsthzn> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/ReVerificationApplication2014
[04:51] <nlsthzn> then click on logon at the top and enter the same e-mail address and password you use for launchpad
[04:51] <Kilos> it shows me there and logout option
[04:52] <nlsthzn> so you are already logged in :)
[04:52] <Kilos> now why is it doing that today
[04:52] <nlsthzn> so what you can do is click on edit
[04:53] <Kilos> i just want to check punctuations
[04:53] <nlsthzn> ubuntu uses sso - single sign on , if you log into something to do with ubuntu on one site you can access other ubuntu sitews
[04:53] <nlsthzn> top left there is a buton called edit
[04:53] <Kilos> oh now it shows them in seperate lines
[04:54] <Kilos> so thats good then
[04:54] <nlsthzn> perhaps someone else already edit it
[04:54] <nlsthzn> but still open it for editing and play around editing it and remember to save when done :P
[04:54] <Kilos> i read it on a normal page and it was a line with no punctuation
[04:55] <Kilos> i wont play much nlsthzn , im scared to mess up
[04:56] <nlsthzn> best way to learn
[04:56] <nlsthzn> which part were you not happy with btw?
[04:56] <Kilos> ya but not with an important thing like this
[04:56] <Kilos> only 15 days away
[04:57] <nlsthzn> you can edit it and add maia as team contact again if you want to try it
[05:00] <Kilos> i added maia
[05:01] <Kilos> and saved
[05:05] <Kilos> it will have to do nlsthzn ty for the help
[05:07] <Kilos> hi Tonberry_ 
[05:20] <nlsthzn> Kilos: will just need to get her launchpad account and make it a link too later
[05:34] <bduk1> More almal
[05:38] <Kilos> hi bduk1 
[05:38] <Kilos> nlsthzn: youll have to do the link stuffs
[05:40] <Kilos> looks like only us got anytime anymore
[05:40] <Kilos> even me only
[05:42] <Kilos> i think we must just push for a good turnout on the night so they can see peeps are still here but just work and life and family uses up most of everyones time
[06:25] <ThatGraemeGuy> morning all
[06:26] <ThatGraemeGuy> anyone played with setting up an encrypted partition on an external HDD?
[06:31] <jrgns> Mmmm, nope, only on internal drives
[06:31] <jrgns> is it that different?
[06:33] <Squirm> morning guys
[06:33] <Squirm> jrgns: I wouldn't think so. You'd just have to unlock the drive every time you connect it
[06:34] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy jrgns Squirm 
[06:34] <jrgns> Hi Kilos. You're a bit late, I've been here for hours :)
[06:35] <jrgns> Squirm: that's what I thought
[06:35] <Kilos> sorry sir, been looking at our re-verification thing and also outside with sheep and fowls
[06:37] <Kilos> got one lamb that should have died 4 days ago
[06:47] <Kilos> oh and making garlic+ chili sauce
[06:54] <Kilos> and starting to build up a box that will suit my needs, cant understand why they put place for 4 cdroms
[07:10] <nlsthzn> ok uncle Kilos I will link it :)
[07:10] <Kilos> ty nlsthzn 
[07:11] <Kilos> ill ask maia to just check everything when she has time and see if she thinks everything is ok
[07:13] <nlsthzn> done uncle Kilos... check out the code I used and you can do it next time...
[07:13] <Kilos> hey
[07:15] <nlsthzn> there are some things we need to remove (the comments that say what is needed in what areas) as well as perhaps to ensure we have linked all the links we have and don't miss saying something we have done 
[07:16] <Kilos> oh in them bracket things
[07:16] <Kilos> i can never remember that nlsthzn 
[07:17] <Kilos> jou werk is jou werk
[07:18] <Kilos> please dont let someone say on reverification night some links dont work
[07:18] <inetpro> good mornings
[07:18] <Kilos> ill send the ahab mafia after you
[07:18] <Kilos> hi inetpro 
[07:22] <Kilos> inetpro: instead of teatime or lunchtime please check out the re-verification thing
[07:22] <Kilos> and add your testimonial
[07:22] <Kilos> hehe
[07:22] <inetpro> haha
[07:23] <inetpro> will look at it when I have time
[07:23] <inetpro> which may or may not be today
[07:23] <inetpro> unlikely today
[07:26] <Kilos> thats fine ty sir, we got 15 days still
[07:26] <Kilos> ill ask maia to just check it out about 5 days before due date
[08:21] <Squirm> how is everyone today?
[08:27] <superfly> tired
[08:46] <Kilos> hi gremble 
[08:46] <Kilos> family ok superfly ? is that why you tired?
[08:47] <gremble> Good morning Kilos 
[08:47] <gremble> And everyone else
[08:49] <Squirm> superfly: indeed
[08:50] <superfly> Kilos: I had to get up at 5 this morning, to take the 5:30 train. 
[08:53] <gremble> Only criminals take the 05:30 train
[08:54] <Kilos> ai! shame man
[08:54] <Kilos> ya gremble but they take it home
[09:09] <Kilos> sjoe! nothing new here since 2013
[09:10] <Kilos> http://ubuntu-za.org
[09:18] <gremble> Lol apparently contestants for Miss South Africa are not allowed to have tattoos
[09:19] <ThatGraemeGuy> no tattoos at all, or no visible tattoos?
[09:19] <ThatGraemeGuy> if its no tattoos at all, how does one apply to be on the panel that does those verifications? :-D
[09:20] <gremble> Visible tattoos. But they have a bikini parade, so that severely limits places for tattoos to be
[09:20] <gremble> :P
[09:20] <ThatGraemeGuy> haha
[09:20] <gremble> "I call it permanent lipstick'
[09:21] <ThatGraemeGuy> the opening double quote and closing single quote is making me crazy :-o
[09:21] <ThatGraemeGuy> I need to get out more
[09:23] <gremble> Ya same, but I cannot change it now
[09:23] <gremble> Happens when you lie on the bed and type
[09:27] <Kilos> lol
[09:32] <Kilos> ptown has a nice place for crazies called groendakkies
[09:42] <gremble> weskoppies also
[09:46] <Kilos> haha
[09:46] <Squirm> Hmm
[09:46] <Squirm> Maaz: ?
[09:46] <Maaz> Squirm: Sorry...
[09:46] <Squirm> strange
[09:46] <Kilos> dont make graeme crazy, he looks after hetzner stuffs
[09:46] <Kilos> wassup Squirm 
[09:47] <Kilos> you just left for a while
[09:47] <Squirm> I see that
[09:47] <Squirm> but my bouncer left for a while
[09:47] <Squirm> not me
[09:50] <Kilos> hehe
[09:50] <Kilos> i tried to make maaz reply to ? but he dont like those arguments i think he said
 Sorry, I'm not interested in empty factoids
[09:51] <Kilos> haha
[11:05] <Squirm> I just wanted to see if I was connected
[14:39] <Kilos> hmm...
[15:15] <mekilos> yoohooo
[15:19]  * mekilos loves fixing what others break
[15:31] <mekilos> hi theblazehen why so quiet
[15:32] <Kilos> ya its me from another pc enquiring
[15:47] <Kilos> Maaz: seen golynx
[15:47] <Maaz> Kilos: golynx was last seen 6 days, 19 hours, 54 minutes and 9 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2014-11-25 11:53:11 PST], and has been offline on freenode since 2014-11-25 12:03:51 PST
[16:53] <mekilos> hi Joe_knock 
[16:53] <Joe_knock> Hello oom
[16:53] <Joe_knock> Lost your IRC password?
[16:54] <Kilos> nope im also on a pc i just rebuilt with a i3 motherboard that crashed
[16:55] <Kilos> so i score an i3 motherboard
[16:55] <Joe_knock> Lucky you
[16:55] <Kilos> ian thought it was the cpu or mother board that [acket up
[16:55] <Kilos> packet
[16:56] <Kilos> ya now its in the box that was single core p4
[16:56] <Joe_knock> wouldn't you need RAM, etc. for it?
[16:58] <Kilos> it came with 4g ddr2 which doesnt fit any of my other pcs otherwise i wouldnt even have tried to get it going again
[16:58] <Kilos> the mb was a present from our friend in the uae, then i gave it to ian and he crashed it
[16:58] <Joe_knock> That will last you at least 4 years or 10 
[16:58] <Kilos> so now i have to test it good
[16:59] <Kilos> i dont know why it crashed
[16:59] <Kilos> thats the million dollar question
[16:59] <Kilos> so im  going to try that linux tool that stresses a pc to see
[17:00] <Kilos> stresslinux i think its called
[17:00] <Kilos> i go eat
[17:14] <Kilos> hmm... thats better
[17:15] <Kilos> everything is so much better on a full tummy
[17:21] <Kilos> Maaz: coffee on
[17:21]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[17:25] <Kilos> hi my magespawn 
[17:25] <Kilos> get coffee quick
[17:25] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[17:25] <Kilos> too late
[17:26] <Kilos> Maaz: ty
[17:26] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[17:26] <magespawn> hi Kilos
[17:48] <Kilos> magespawn: will you look at our re-verification page and see if you see anything needs doing please
[17:48] <Kilos> and add your testimonial
[17:49] <Kilos> Maaz: re-verification
[17:49] <Maaz> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/ReVerificationApplication2014
[17:57] <Kilos> naand inetpro 
[17:57] <Joe_knock> Maaz: coffee off
[17:57] <Maaz> Joe_knock: *blink*
[17:57] <Joe_knock> Maaz: coffee on
[17:57]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[17:58] <Joe_knock> aah
[17:58] <Kilos> Maaz: coffee please
[17:58] <Maaz> Kilos: Okay
[17:58] <Kilos> Maaz: coffee for all
[17:58] <Maaz> Come on ya buncha geeks. Rock up with your mugs with the correct amount of sugar added already
[17:58] <Kilos> so hows Joe_knock today?
[18:00] <Joe_knock> I'm great oom, hoegaanit?
[18:00] <Kilos> baie goed dankie
[18:01] <magespawn> sure Kilos
[18:01] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Joe_knock and Kilos!
[18:02] <Kilos> Maaz: gracias amigo
[18:02] <Maaz> ¡de nada compadre
[18:06] <Joe_knock> "for many years and it continuous to be a brilliant source of" spelling error in continues
[18:07] <Kilos> hey?
[18:07] <Kilos> say that in english
[18:10] <Joe_knock> On the wiki page, one testimonial said "continuous" but it should be continues
[18:10] <Kilos> edit it
[18:10] <Joe_knock> do i need an account?
[18:12] <Kilos> ill do it
[18:12] <Kilos> but yes you need to be with launchpad i think
[18:13] <Kilos> is it fixed Joe_knock ?
[18:14] <Joe_knock> nope, it is right at the bottom, by nlsthzn testimonial
[18:14] <Kilos> i just changed it and saved, reload the page
[18:15] <Joe_knock> nothing still :-/
[18:15] <Kilos> oh my i go see again
[18:17] <Kilos> and now
[18:17] <Kilos> ticked a different save button
[18:19] <Joe_knock> fixed 
[18:19] <Joe_knock> :D
[18:19] <Kilos> yay
[18:20] <Kilos> lemme know if you see more please
[18:26] <Kilos> evening ThatGraemeGuy 3g again?
[18:26] <ThatGraemeGuy> yup
[18:26] <Joe_knock> ThatGraemeGuy needs his own satellite
[18:26] <ThatGraemeGuy> I think MTN upgraded a tower, getting HSDPA nowadays instead of 1 bar of EGDE
[18:27] <ThatGraemeGuy> EDGE too
[18:27] <Kilos> great
[18:27] <Kilos> no lekker without a good connection
[18:45] <Kilos> Maaz: spell limitted
[18:45] <Maaz> Kilos: Suggestions: limited
[18:45] <Kilos> Maaz: ty
[18:45] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[18:52] <Kilos> there. i added my bit too. please edit my mistakes
[18:54] <Joe_knock> Nice testimonial. I thought you were a life-guard oom. 
[18:54] <Kilos> that too ya
[18:55] <Kilos> that was before the mechanic bit
[18:55] <Kilos> and after the telkom techie years
[18:55] <Joe_knock> and farming?
[18:56] <Kilos> i managed a sheep and dairy farm for about 4 years i think then a bonsmara and limousine stud farm for about 2 years
[18:56] <Kilos> then i died
[18:57] <Kilos> and was rebooted
[18:58] <Kilos> then i was nearly a cabbage, till i found pcs
[18:58] <Kilos> pcs got brain going again
[18:59] <Kilos> and ubuntu added the finishing touches
[19:00] <Joe_knock> so you lived a full life oom. maar as jy het die opportunity, hoekom het jy nie jou heel lewe as n lifeguard gedoen nie
[19:00] <Kilos> ohi superfly 
[19:00] <Kilos> no man pay was sleg
[19:01] <Joe_knock> hoeveel? 5G ? :D
[19:01] <Kilos> no man
[19:02] <Kilos> the post office paid about R600 a month in those days and lifesaving wasnt even R100
[19:02] <Joe_knock> :O
[19:03] <Kilos> most lifesavers then did it voluntarily on weekends and during leave
[19:03] <Joe_knock> If I ever live near a beach, ill do it voluntarily too
[19:04] <Kilos> i dont know if i did the link thing right. i copy/pasted nuvos and just added me in place of him
[19:04] <Kilos> hehe
[19:05] <Kilos> out of holiday season the is very little for lifeys to do
[19:05] <Kilos> there
[19:06] <Joe_knock> maar dis daarem lekker om near die strand te bly. 
[19:06] <Kilos> lovely
[19:07] <Kilos> only drawback is rust
[19:08] <Joe_knock> for how long did you stay in toti?
[19:09] <Kilos> about 20 years i think
[19:09] <Kilos> maybe 10 then pmb and northern natal
[19:10] <Kilos> not sure , about 30 years total in natal
[19:11] <Joe_knock> shooh
[19:11] <Joe_knock> dis lank
[19:11] <Kilos> lol 
[19:12] <Kilos> there is a web design job going in durban now
[19:12] <Kilos> just saw it in dbnlug mail
[19:12] <Kilos> pay 10-15k a month
[19:17] <inetpro> good evening
[19:17] <Kilos> hi inetpro 
[19:17] <inetpro> hello oom
[19:18] <inetpro> nice to see my connection actually working for a change
[19:18]  * inetpro been struggling with a very unstable 8ta contract SIM
[19:19] <Kilos> ai!
[19:19] <Kilos> not your router
[19:19] <Kilos> mine rocks
[19:19] <inetpro> well funny enough the prepaid SIM was working fine when the other was unstable
[19:20] <Kilos> just mail them and theyll fix it
[19:20] <inetpro> but can't work too long on prepaid, getting very expensive
[19:20] <Kilos> or tweet them then they sort it even quicker
[19:20] <inetpro> well I logged a call on Saturday and am still waiting for a techie to call
[19:21] <Kilos> best to talk directly to the data peeps
[19:21] <Kilos> 183 i think is the number
[19:22] <Joe_knock> Why do you guys not use ADSL or WISP? No connection/signal ?
[19:22] <Kilos> no fone lines
[19:22] <Kilos> copper theft
[19:22] <inetpro> Kilos: well they're quite quick to help on the chat interface as well, but they can not get into much detail
[19:23] <Kilos> chat interface?
[19:23] <inetpro> on the page where you check your data
[19:24] <inetpro> under Help see "Chat to an Agent"
[19:24] <Kilos> oh wow i didnt even notice that
[19:24] <inetpro> but only problem is that you need to be online for that to work
[19:24] <Kilos> yeash
[19:24] <Kilos> yeah too
[19:25] <inetpro> happened several time this weekend that even the prepaid was unstable
[19:25] <Kilos> the tweet thing is best i think, then they tweet you to email them
[19:25] <inetpro> Joe_knock: no physical lines anymore in my area
[19:25] <inetpro> all stolen
[19:25] <Kilos> is it not some bird that knocked you yagi skeef
[19:26] <inetpro> Kilos: I got onto the roof this weekend but no, was not that
[19:26] <Joe_knock> copper theft has been a problem for at least 10 years, we should've had fibre a long long time ago
[19:26] <inetpro> Joe_knock: I agree
[19:26] <Kilos> signal strenght the same as it always was?
[19:27] <Kilos> strength
[19:27] <inetpro> sad that only a very small part is covered for FTTH in Pretoria at this stage
[19:27] <inetpro> at least from Telkom's side
[19:28] <Kilos> eventually theyll be all over
[19:28] <Kilos> except maybe to plots
[19:28] <Joe_knock> It'll take at least 10 years 
[19:28] <Joe_knock> apparently brooklyn is zoned for FTTH
[19:28] <Kilos> sjoe 
[19:31] <Kilos> hi mekilos 
[19:31] <mekilos> hi Kilos 
[19:31] <Kilos> haha
[19:33] <inetpro> almost thought that my Huawei B960 packed up
[19:33] <inetpro> shocking to see how expensive it would be to get a new router
[19:33] <Kilos> why what happened
[19:33] <magespawn> the really sad thing is that the copper has been stolen
[19:33] <Kilos> lol
[19:33] <inetpro> Kilos: no I mean with the instability
[19:34] <inetpro> magespawn: oh I somehow almost got used to that
[19:34] <Kilos> when you run mtr what do you see
[19:34] <Kilos> where is it bad
[19:35] <inetpro> Kilos: terrible packet losses, as in 0% for 1 or 2 seconds and varying percentages of losses for 10 or more seconds
[19:35] <Kilos> eish
[19:35] <Joe_knock> What exactly can you do with stolen copper cables? Use it for wiring and stuff?
[19:35] <Kilos> they sell the copper
[19:35] <magespawn> this is sort of situation you could expect from the platteland, but in or near the cites?
[19:35] <Kilos> burn off the plastic cover
[19:36] <Kilos> copper is like golds
[19:36] <Kilos> gold
[19:36] <inetpro> Joe_knock: copper thieves are so desperate for the stuff they even steal the water meters with tiny bits of copper
[19:36] <Kilos> Joe_knock: they even broke in here and stole all extension cords and welding cables etc
[19:37] <Joe_knock> There must be a massive underground market for it 
[19:38] <Kilos> they often show those they have caught
[19:38] <Kilos> truck loads full
[19:39] <Kilos> they used to steal 3ks of power lines here nearly every month till they were changed to aluminium
[19:41] <Joe_knock> Could've made some money if somebody was manufacturing copper-equivalents
[19:45] <Kilos> lol
[19:59] <inetpro> good night
[20:00] <Kilos> night inetpro sleep tight
[20:20] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[22:40] <magespawn> good night all