[00:41] <studio-user274> hola
[04:09] <delt> "crazy" and "atheist" are kind of synonymous :D
[04:09] <delt> jk
[04:09] <holstein> i suppose you meant that for another channel?
[04:10] <delt> 23:05  Crazy_Atheist (~Crazy_Ath@unaffiliated/minori) has quit (Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1)
[04:10] <delt> nah nm
[04:10] <delt> kind of off topic
[04:12] <delt> anyway, here's a good one... i want to redirect the output of an ftp command "ls" to a file on the local system, without having to select a huge amount of clipboard/copypaste data from my terminal window. how should i do it?
[04:12] <kyruf> sorry guys, i installed Ubuntu Studio a few minutes ago. Can you tell me the alternatives to sony vegas (cutting, adding audio, transitions and simple things) i have? thanks
[04:12] <delt> tried ftp | tee <outputfile> etc etc......
[04:12] <holstein> kyruf: audacity usually does that. otherwise, the DAW's can be a bit overkill
[04:13] <holstein> kyruf: if you want to open something and edit a wav file, i say, try audacity.. you dont need to learn JACK.. if it doesnt fit your needs, check out..
[04:13] <holstein> !proaudio
[04:13] <holstein> where, you 'll want to learn about using JACK, for the more "advanced" tools
[04:13] <kyruf> thanks i'll try both :)
[04:14] <holstein> delt: i might just ask in a server channel, or the main #ubuntu ...or a general linux channel.. nothing really specific about studio addresses that, or command line work like that.. i would think a bash script would work
[04:14] <holstein> kyruf: i really wouldnt
[04:15] <holstein> kyruf: you can actually just break your audio , starting an application that uses jack.. i say, if audacity works, just use it..
[04:16] <delt> he asked about sony vegas.... i thought it was about video editing
[04:16] <kyruf> yep also videos
[04:16] <holstein> when i used vegas *years* ago, it was for audio
[04:17] <holstein> nothing about linux or ubuntu or ubuntustudio prevents sony from making vegas available for linux
[04:17] <delt> at any rate.... cinelerra isn't in the ubuntu repos iirc.....?
[04:17] <holstein> its all open, and if you want vegas, you should let sony know you are interested in them making it for the operating system you are using
[04:17] <holstein> otherwise, there are *many* editors.. kdenlive is a nice one that *is* in the repos
[04:18] <holstein> !info kdenlive
[04:18] <delt> !info bash
[04:18] <holstein> http://www.linux.com/news/software/applications/693365-top-3-linux-video-editors
[04:19] <holstein> there is the commercial editor lightworks for linux as well.. http://www.lwks.com/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=19&id=83622&Itemid=81
[04:21] <kyruf> from the screenshot, cinelarra seems what i am looking for. do you know it? how is it?
[04:21] <holstein> kyruf: its not in the repos..
[04:21] <holstein> kyruf: it works great.. i like kdenlive better, personally, but i literally edit a video every 4 years
[04:21] <holstein> kyruf: you'll just have to load them all up and see what works.. which will likely be a mixture of them all..
[04:21] <holstein> well, not all, but a few
[04:22] <holstein> https://launchpad.net/~cinelerra-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[04:22] <holstein> !ppa
[04:22] <holstein> !info cinelerra
[04:25] <kyruf> ahaha :) ok so awarded kdenlive
[04:25] <kyruf> and audacity for audio cutting
[04:25] <holstein> that should work well, and you wont need JACK..
[04:25] <holstein> unless you do..
[04:27] <kyruf> to be honest, i don't know what jack is. i now perfectly photoshop and cinema4d because i come from windows, but it feels too laggy on my slowy netbook
[04:28] <kyruf> and now a friend of mine wants to make YT videos with me :P
[04:28] <holstein> i never do any production on my netbook.. period..
[04:29] <holstein> i have a netbook that i track audio on ,because it has a pci express slot, and i can run my firewire device, but, i transfer the project ASAP
[04:29] <holstein> but, these days, you can just edit the youtube videos in the web browser, after you upload
[04:29] <delt> !info jack
[04:30] <delt> ...?
[04:30] <kyruf> i don't have a PC or a notebook - unfortunately i spent all my money for the phone
[04:30] <delt> i don't think that's the right info for jack..
[04:30] <holstein> delt: thats not the jack audio connection kit
[04:30] <holstein> kyruf: in most cases, you can upload right from the phone, and edit there, as well
[04:31] <holstein> anyways.. i wouldnt expect "magic" from linux while trying to do video editing on an underpowered rig... im sure if you are patient, it'll do the job
[04:32] <cfhowlett> "serious" editing is a dying art.(?)
[04:32] <kyruf> tomorrow i will try and make you know how YT editor is because i'm doubtful of its professionalism
[04:32] <holstein> kyruf: its youtube.. youtube is not about professionalism
[04:33] <kyruf> that's the point :) we want people like our videos
[04:33] <kyruf> as well as we saw other's
[04:33] <holstein> kyruf: "like" is not equal to quality..
[04:33] <holstein> kyruf: anyways, you'l just have to see what you need, and make it happen.. im just stating facts
[04:34] <holstein> no one will tell you using a netbook for production is a good idea.. but, im sure you can do it, if you need to... which you shouldnt.. but, you can
[04:35] <kyruf> also it's not a common netbook. it's a packard bell really old one :D and it's not mine at all even if i can use it. seriously that's the only way
[04:36] <holstein> kyruf: i have about 10 of them..
[04:36] <holstein> folks make youtube vids with phones all the time.. if thats what you have that is modern, and capable..
[04:37] <kyruf> using the YT editor? because i tryed every app and none of them where great
[04:38] <holstein> kyruf: i dont know, friend.. i dont make them, or use my phone for editing.. but, its done..
[04:39] <holstein> i would start with something like http://mashable.com/2013/06/05/video-edit-apps/
[04:39] <holstein> or, get a machine that can handle what you are trying to do
[04:39] <holstein> i have an older dual core with 8 gigs of ram that can handle what i do, and i didnt pay anything for that machine when i got it a few years ago
[04:40] <kyruf> BTW yes the phone is great
[04:41] <kyruf> how did you do?
[04:41] <holstein> do what?
[04:41] <kyruf> i mean how did you get it?
[04:41] <holstein> get what?
[04:42] <holstein> the computer? i bartered some data recovery for it.. it was not functioning and i had to reseat the CPU
[04:43] <kyruf> ow i'm starting now a ITIS so i don't know much about hardware
[04:46] <delt> trying out openbsd in a VM... seems like a nice, compact OS, kind of a pain to setup the disk partitions tho
[04:46] <holstein> im out.. try #opensourcemusians if you need more advice, kyruf
[04:47] <holstein>  #opensourcemusicians **
[04:47] <kyruf> no i know what a cpu is. i know just basics
[04:48] <delt> Velho_: Hello, welcome back
[04:48] <delt> did it work out fixing your login?
[04:49] <Velho_> delt, login? what do you mean?
[04:50] <delt> Velho_: you were here earlier today, right? you had problems with logging in to your ubuntu studio account?
[04:53] <delt> oh wait.... that wasn't him :/
[04:57] <kyruf> lol
[05:11] <Velho_> delt, maybe that wasn't me :) but thank you so much for the care <3
[05:16] <delt> Velho_: oh, if i remember you asked about a firewire audio interface, right?
[05:17] <delt> the fellow from portugal
[08:32] <delt> just bought some RAM on ebay... cant wait for it to get here
[08:32] <delt> 4gb mem in this machine
[08:33] <delt> running vm's all over the place etc etc.... gonna run a lot smoother when i've tripled it to 12gb :D
[10:05] <andrew__> hi im new here and have a question
[10:05] <andrew__> Im using ubuntu studio and would like some of the plugins from kx studio
[10:06] <andrew__> i have the repos installed.Ive been using US for some time now and it is great i never have xruns and my latency is down under 10ms
[10:07] <andrew__> the problem i have is whenever ive tried to install kx studio stuff my xruns shoot up and latency is not good.So i would like to stay away from cadence and just use qjackctl
[10:07] <andrew__> with the kx plugins
[16:58] <leazgot> hi
[16:59] <holstein> o/
[18:18] <jackie_> hello?
[20:07] <ubuntu-studio> heeello my friends!!
[20:40] <ubuntu-studio> Im new to UbuntuStudio and Im running it in Live CD. Im making several changes. Is there a way to save all these changes? UbuntuStudio is running on a DVD-RW
[20:52] <jackie_> hello?
[20:59] <ubuntu-studio> jackie_, hey!
[21:01] <jackie_> hi
[21:01] <jackie_> it's kinda quiet in here, yes?
[21:02] <jackie_> i wish i knew how to answer your questions but i am as new at this as you
[21:03] <jackie_> so anything i could say is would be the blind leading the blind
[21:07] <ubuntu-studio> jackie_, thank any way, my dear
[21:07] <ubuntu-studio> do you have UbuntuStudio?
[21:07] <jackie_> jeepers, i am not even sure what that is.
[21:07] <ubuntu-studio> Im considering UbuntuStudio and KXStudio. Dont know the differences yet
[21:08] <jackie_> is it for radio stations?
[21:09] <ubuntu-studio> professional audio production
[21:09] <jackie_> okie dokie
[21:09] <jackie_> that;s one of my areas of interest, so i will be persuing it later
[21:25] <delt> Hello
[21:26] <delt> i might be able to help....
[21:27] <delt> for saving changes, you have to install it to your hard disk.
[21:28] <holstein> ubuntu-studio: what i would do is, install onto a USB stick
[21:28] <delt> or that (:
[21:28] <holstein> ubuntu-studio: you can have the portability of a live iso with the changes you want to save
[21:28] <holstein> ubuntu-studio: or, you can read about setting up perstence.. but, i like the full install onto a USB stick.. or just roll your own live iso
[21:29] <delt> but for the changes you made in the livecd, if you install, i think only the network configuration gets copied
[21:29] <ubuntu-studio> holstein, thats great!! and will it be compatible to any pc, as long as connected to internet?
[21:29] <delt> you just need internet access to download new programs.
[21:29] <holstein> ubuntu-studio: the PC will need to be responsible for the compatibility.. internet connection is not needed
[21:29] <holstein> ubuntu-studio: ubuntu, linux, and ubuntustudio are not preventing *all* computers from running it. its open, and any hardare vendor can support linux
[21:30] <ubuntu-studio> holstein, I think the best option is to dual boot
[21:30] <holstein> ubuntu-studio: if they do, then it'll work. if they dont, or dont make it easy for linux to be supported, then, it wont
[21:30] <holstein> ubuntu-studio: the "best" option is whatever fits your needs..
[21:30] <holstein> !dualboot
[21:30] <ubuntu-studio> holstein, sorry, windows mentality here! not used to free stuff working fine
[21:30] <holstein> ubuntu-studio: i never said it'll work "fine".. its just important to put the responsibility where it needs to be
[21:31] <holstein> ubuntu-studio: when you buy a machine that states "supports windows" the company pays experts and makes sure that you are provided windows support.. if the company wants, they can do the same for linux.. if the dont, then the hardware may not support linux
[21:32] <holstein> typically, modern hardware "just works" with linux.. and the modular drivers "baked" into the kernel work "out of the box"
[21:34] <ubuntu-studio> holstein, although im not an experienced linux user, i have played with linux for more then 10 years. I remember drivers not being supported. Since then this got so easy for Linux? these are great news!
[21:35] <holstein> ubuntu-studio: its as i say.. *any* manufacturer can do what they do for other operating systems.. they can, and could have always supported linux
[21:35] <holstein> ubuntu-studio: imagine taking, for example, apple OSX, and trying to load that onto something like an android phone.. its just not intended.. there is nothing "broken" or "wrong" becuase that doesnt work
[21:36] <holstein> linux is *all* open, and and anyone can, and is welcome to support it, and make it run well on the hardware they create
[21:36] <holstein> but, this is far from what your orginal question was.. this was just in refernce to the live USB stick, or your installation on USB stick being "moduar"
[21:36] <holstein> modular*
[21:55] <ubuntu-studio> holstein, thank you for the explanation