[08:18] <lordievader> Good morning.
[13:43] <BluesKaj_> 'Morning folks
[19:00] <froboz> ban me!
[19:10] <BluesKaj> froboz, why?
[19:11] <HFSPLUS> HFSPLUS HAS ARRIVED!
[19:11] <HFSPLUS> BluesKaj, i am hfs+
[19:11] <HFSPLUS> hey rww you going to ban me
[19:11] <HFSPLUS> !ops | ban me!
[19:13] <BluesKaj> nm, just another troll ..ignore
[19:15] <rww> HFSPLUS: dunno, I'm kind of enjoying there being content in here other than people doing /amsg hi
[19:15] <HFSPLUS> waaaa
[19:16] <rww> another stunning victory for catalyzing
[19:16] <elfy> thanks rww
[19:16] <elfy> indeed
[19:16] <lordievader> Thanks :)
[19:16] <lordievader> Nice victory by the way.
[19:19] <bynarie> what are some differences between 14.10 and 15.04.. i havent seen any change really
[19:20] <BluesKaj> bynarie, depends which DE
[19:20] <bynarie> xfce
[19:20] <bynarie> well specifically xubuntu
[19:21] <elfy> not much going on with us atm - mostly will be updated packages
[19:21] <BluesKaj> then, no idea
[19:21] <lordievader> Kubuntu has Plasma5 now by default.
[19:21] <bynarie> yea thats in 14.10 too
[19:21] <bynarie> plasma5 is awesome
[19:21] <elfy> if you want to test the newest stuff - use the staging ppa at https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ubuntu/xubuntu-staging
[19:22] <bynarie> elfy, thanks for the link
[19:23] <BluesKaj> bynarie, really ? I just reverted to 14.10...plasma 5 definitely not my style and it's still very buggy
[19:24] <bynarie> i like plasma5.. honestly i havent used it too much, BUT from what i have seen i like it
[19:24] <lordievader> bynarie: Not by default ;)
[19:24] <BluesKaj> reverted to 14.10 plasma 4 that is
[19:24] <bynarie> lordievader, right.. not default.. what i meant was that they have the image spec. for plasma5
[19:25] <bynarie> i think u can choose 4 or 5
[19:25] <lordievader> True, true. There is the Plasma5 tech preview.
[19:25] <BluesKaj> looka like I'm staying with 14.10 for a while then, lordievader
[19:25] <bynarie> BluesKaj, do you use kde?
[19:25] <BluesKaj> bynarie, yes
[19:26] <bynarie> ive always used kde since back when linux-mandrake was out.. but i recently find xfce more appealing, lighter
[19:27]  * BluesKaj nods ...I might take a look at it for my older desktop pc
[19:27] <bynarie> im running fairly top of line computer and im still using xfce
[19:27] <bynarie> core i7 4700mq, 32gb ram, SSD
[19:27] <BluesKaj> 2008 vintage here
[19:27] <bynarie> nvidia geforce gtx 700
[19:28] <bynarie> i just like the light weight stuff i guess
[19:28] <BluesKaj> xfce seems like a bit cautious on such high powered machine
[19:29] <bynarie> maybe so... its just what i have been using lately
[19:29] <BluesKaj> i3 with 8G RAM on this laptop and kde runs very quickly
[19:29] <bynarie> yea... i3 and 8gb ram are fairly top notch still
[19:29] <bynarie> kde should run like a breeze
[19:30] <bynarie> what type of vid card u got
[19:30] <BluesKaj> yup, it's great
[19:32] <bynarie> man ill be honest... i was using windows 8 until prolly last 2 months
[19:32] <bynarie> then i started tinkering with linux again, and boom i was hooked
[19:32] <bynarie> havent even booted windows in last 2 months
[19:32] <elfy> lol
[19:33] <bynarie> im serious.... xubuntu, or any distro really, puts winblows to shame
[19:33] <bynarie> im only familiar with debian distros for right now tho so i dont stray to like redhat based or anything
[19:34] <lordievader> Let me tell you a secret, I'm using Windows 7 right at this very moment ;)
[19:34] <bynarie> like fedora, suse
[19:34] <BluesKaj> just the regular intel gpu ,3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller, runs i915 driver
[19:34] <bynarie> lordievader, NO! GET THE HELL OUT! haha j/k
[19:34] <lordievader> Gna, gna :P
[19:35] <bynarie> actually i added more ram to my system and windows is sooo slow.. i think its the timing in the ram being different
[19:35] <bynarie> i had 16, added 16 more and my cpu slows down lol
[19:36] <BluesKaj> heh, added 3G to make it 6g on the old desktop and makes a big diff on W7
[19:36] <bynarie> yea no doubt
[19:36] <bynarie> i think around 8gb is pretty much all most ppl need for regualr use
[19:37] <bynarie> im just the type of person who tries to pump everything into my computer even if its useless
[19:39] <bynarie> but i failed to realize difference in ram timings causes problems
[19:41] <BluesKaj> I have a strange situation, set up a gpt partition table, but I'm still restricted to 4 primaries using gparted, is there a newer version of gparted that will read the partition table correctly?
[19:48] <bubbasaures> BluesKaj, This an additional HD what is the OS set as msdos or gpt?
[19:51] <BluesKaj> it's the internal HDD and it's set up as gpt for dual booting W7 and Kubuntu, bubbasaures
[19:51] <josharenson> I'm trying to make a vivid chroot on my nex4, but I get this error. "E: Failed getting release file http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/vivid/Release"
[19:51] <josharenson> command issued is "mk-sbuild vivid"
[19:52] <bubbasaures> BluesKaj, Windows is a uefi install and or a gpt/efi and kubuntu as well?
[19:53] <BluesKaj> bubbasaures, windows is uefi install and kubuntu had to be legacy
[19:55] <bubbasaures> BluesKaj, Hmm, and you can boot both from grub?
[19:56] <BluesKaj> bubbasaures, yes
[19:57] <BluesKaj> originally had W8.1 and installed W7 over it, then kubuntu
[19:59] <bubbasaures> BluesKaj, Can you pastebin sudo parted -l
[20:00] <bubbasaures> BluesKaj, Did you set this as legacy before the W7 install
[20:01] <BluesKaj> created 2 unallocated spaceson the hdd for linux then set them up as ext4s / and home with ubiquity, but now parted -l says it's a mdsos partition table ...guess it got converted somehow in the changeover
[20:01] <BluesKaj> the origianl partitoning was done in W8.1
[20:04] <BluesKaj> bubbasaures, http://paste.ubuntu.com/9357087/
[20:05] <BluesKaj> bubbasaures, yes had tio use lgacy mode or kubuntu wouldn't install, unfortunately
[20:05] <bubbasaures> Partition Table: msdos
[20:05] <BluesKaj> yup
[20:06] <BluesKaj> oh well i guess I can get by without a swap partition
[20:07] <BluesKaj> not happy with the uefi/bios setup on this laptop
[20:07] <bubbasaures> BluesKaj, You could have a swap file/space, http://pqxx.org/development/swapspace/
[20:08] <bubbasaures> I would just set the swappinees at like 10 to get more ram before swapping
[20:08] <BluesKaj> yeah, I've used a swap file before, but with 8G RAM I probly don't really need it ...no probs so far
[20:09] <bubbasaures> yeah 8 gigs otta do yah
[20:09] <BluesKaj> not a heavy user so to speak
[20:41] <lordievader> BluesKaj: I've had a Win7 install that didn't like gpt, I gave it a gpt disk and Windows simply converted it back to msdos for some reason.
[20:43] <BluesKaj> lordievader, seems that's what happened here too, thanks for the heads up :)
[20:45] <lordievader> BluesKaj: Does gparted/parted/etc now list it as a msdos disk?
[20:46] <BluesKaj> lordievader, yes, parted -l does, http://paste.ubuntu.com/9357087/
[20:47] <lordievader> Likely the same bug...
[20:49] <BluesKaj> or is it the uefi/bios that doesn't like W7 on gpt ?
[20:52] <lordievader> I don't think the bios has any say in the matter.
[20:54] <BluesKaj> well, gotta go ...later