[11:56] <apw> b xnox 
[11:57] <xnox> apw: oj!
[11:57] <apw> missing / and all that
[12:58] <apw> xnox,  on Bug #1396383 ... we have to run update-grub as the filename grub will see and use changes when there is a signed kernel in place
[12:59] <apw> and we cannot modify the existing kernel in place, because that is a file in another package, and you don't do that
[12:59] <apw> it is possible we could divert the original vmlinux in that case
[13:00] <apw> we don't user /etc/kernel/* because that would make it rebuild the initrd even more times on install
[13:00] <apw> though that would be fixed if i uploaded my triggers fixes
[13:00] <apw> but that is waiting on initramfs-tools and that is waiting on console-setup
[15:41] <apw> hallyn, hey ... it seems your qemu update has dropped a symlink kvm-spice -> kvm, is this to be expected?  it stops all my libvirt VMs from working
[19:59]  * apw pokes hallyn
[21:04] <clopez> have the patches for VT mode KD_TRANSPARENT and vt_handoff  tried to be merged either upstream or in the debian kernel?
[21:20] <clopez> http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/60271/  and http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/60272/
[21:20] <clopez> seems that ubuntu 14.04 not longer has this patches, neither i see them on upstream... what happened?
[22:22] <apw> clopez, not exactly
[22:31] <clopez> apw: is another patch implemeting a feature like this one?
[23:06] <apw> clopez, vt handoff et al are still in our kernels, cirtainly is there in vivid
[23:06] <RAOF> Hm. Whatever happened to those hot data tracking patches...
[23:11] <clopez> apw: "grep -ri vt_handoff" returns only changelog entries on Ubuntu 14.04 kernel sources (http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/linux_3.13.0-40.69.dsc)
[23:11] <clopez> what i'm missing?
[23:16] <apw> clopez, no it may be missingin 3.13, it is there still in general in our kernels
[23:21] <clopez> i see, so support for this feature is broken on 14.04 ?
[23:23] <apw> clopez, it does sound like it.
[23:24] <apw> RAOF, ?
[23:31] <RAOF> apw: Oh, I just remember there being VFS patches for hot-data tracking and migration some time ago, but can't find any recent work on them.
[23:32] <clopez> ok, thanks for the clarification
[23:33] <apw> clopez, you have a use case for those patches ...? 
[23:36] <clopez> yes, avoiding the black screen meanwhile the kernel is loading (between grub and the load of the initramfs)
[23:36] <apw> clopez, if you do, you might file a bug about it so we don't forget to look, and dump the bug number in here.