| daftykins | disconnect your second SSD which is acting up... boot a live session, make a /home on the / partition, comment out /home from the faulty SSD in your /etc/fstab then you'd have a working install to use in the meantime | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| Safiyyah | And when the new drive comes? | 00:00 |
| daftykins | you'd have a working install so that you could plug it in and use non live-session programs to set it up ready | 00:01 |
| Safiyyah | Okay I will have to cross that bridge when I get to it because my brain can't understand it | 00:01 |
| Safiyyah | Anyway I have backed up everything that I remember is urgent | 00:02 |
| Safiyyah | So it won't h | 00:02 |
| Safiyyah | Am trying to remember what other hidden files I need... Lol | 00:03 |
| Safiyyah | Okay am ready | 00:03 |
| Safiyyah | So power down. Unplug crazy drive | 00:03 |
| Safiyyah | Right? | 00:04 |
| daftykins | yip | 00:04 |
| Safiyyah | Okay here we go..... | 00:04 |
| Safiyyah | Okay we are booting into live disk | 00:13 |
| daftykins | 12.04 one? | 00:14 |
| Safiyyah | Interesting... I just remembered that I have a cable which connects the power supply and the SATA plus. And it's a splitting one (combined one ) not two separate ones. Could that also be the issue? | 00:15 |
| Safiyyah | Yes Daftykins 12.04 | 00:15 |
| daftykins | very highly doubt it | 00:15 |
| Safiyyah | This whole affair has made me want to eat | 00:15 |
| Safiyyah | But at least I can sleep knowing my files are safe | 00:16 |
| Safiyyah | Lol the idea of losing them made me want to go lie down | 00:16 |
| daftykins | you may have to make your backups more often when you get settled again ;) | 00:17 |
| Safiyyah | Yeah | 00:18 |
| Safiyyah | This has been rather scary | 00:18 |
| Safiyyah | The problem is that once the computer works for Bout 6 months. You forget about the reality of loosing data and return to ones old ways | 00:18 |
| daftykins | :) | 00:19 |
| Safiyyah | Daftykins everything is up and running | 00:19 |
| Safiyyah | Joining via the web | 00:19 |
| daftykins | ok fire up a terminal and run "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt" | 00:20 |
| daftykins | followed by "cat /etc/fstab" then pastebin that | 00:21 |
| daftykins | oops | 00:21 |
| daftykins | nope ignore that | 00:21 |
| daftykins | "cat /mnt/etc/fstab" | 00:21 |
| Safiyyah2 | hello | 00:21 |
| Safiyyah | Firefox is frozen. And terminal says it can't read superblock | 00:23 |
| daftykins | hmm | 00:24 |
| daftykins | maybe it's not gonna be as easy as initially thought :P | 00:24 |
| daftykins | you could try "sudo mount -t ext4 /dev/sda1 /mnt" but i doubt it'd make much difference to a superblock error | 00:25 |
| Safiyyah | Firefox has crashed three times on the webchat | 00:26 |
| daftykins | that's not a good sign at all | 00:26 |
| daftykins | maybe running a memtest after all wouldn't hurt | 00:27 |
| daftykins | perhaps it's better to do that overnight and come back to things tomorrow, as it's already crazy o'clock | 00:27 |
| Safiyyah | Perhaps we should check the health of this hard drive as well | 00:27 |
| daftykins | well, SSDs don't report things as do hard disks. so there's nothing i know of that'd say | 00:27 |
| Safiyyah | Hmm | 00:28 |
| daftykins | you can see if the kernel is crying with "dmesg | tail" again | 00:28 |
| Safiyyah | I can't paste in Firefox. It says cannot set free 48000 to ep 0×86 | 00:29 |
| Safiyyah | Free = freq | 00:30 |
| Safiyyah | Spell check on phone changes text sometimes | 00:30 |
| daftykins | *nod* autocorrect is a pain | 00:31 |
| daftykins | i think memtest would be a good move | 00:31 |
| Safiyyah | The pastebin is at 9351347 | 00:31 |
| Safiyyah | Pkease type the full link then that number for my oaste | 00:32 |
| daftykins | oh hmm nothing much detailed about that | 00:33 |
| Safiyyah | Hmm | 00:33 |
| daftykins | yeah, i still vote memtest :> | 00:33 |
| Safiyyah | Are you telling me am better off with an old school HDD? | 00:33 |
| Safiyyah | Yes well memtest takes hours | 00:33 |
| daftykins | oh dear Tux, no | 00:33 |
| daftykins | sure does | 00:33 |
| Safiyyah | Can leave it running overnight | 00:34 |
| daftykins | but it also saves me a lot of time once i discover machines i'm working on are wonky | 00:34 |
| daftykins | yip | 00:34 |
| Safiyyah | What time roughly will you be about? | 00:34 |
| Safiyyah | 10 11. | 00:34 |
| Safiyyah | ? | 00:34 |
| daftykins | late evening | 00:34 |
| Safiyyah | Oh my god, you are trying to kill me | 00:34 |
| Safiyyah | Will be back | 00:35 |
| Safiyyah | Thank you ever so much | 00:35 |
| daftykins | anytime ^_^ | 00:35 |
| daftykins | you can always try the rest of this channel in the day time | 00:35 |
| daftykins | plenty of us about | 00:35 |
| Safiyyah | So that's grub and then memtest? | 00:35 |
| daftykins | i would use the one on the 12.04 liveCD | 00:35 |
| Safiyyah | OH | 00:36 |
| Safiyyah | How do I do that? | 00:36 |
| daftykins | when it's booting and is purple, you get a little icon at the bottom of the screen - press enter and a language select menu comes up | 00:36 |
| daftykins | then 'memory test' is on the menu behind | 00:36 |
| Safiyyah | Is this checking the RAM | 00:39 |
| Safiyyah | ? | 00:39 |
| ali1234 | if yoou see a mostly blue screen with white writing, and some red and green bits, and lots of crazy numbers, then yes | 00:41 |
| Safiyyah | Okay | 00:42 |
| daftykins | mmhmm | 00:43 |
| Safiyyah | Will leave it over night | 00:43 |
| Safiyyah | Report back tomorrow | 00:43 |
| daftykins | righty-o | 00:43 |
| daftykins | nn o/ | 00:43 |
| Safiyyah | Night guys. At least I got my data | 00:43 |
| daftykins | heh just had fun with a cheap powerline kit | 01:34 |
| daftykins | here's my reference wired gigabit file copy from server to laptop: | 01:34 |
| daftykins | https://www.dropbox.com/s/j9z3vys0i9apgvo/wiredtest.gif?dl=0 | 01:34 |
| daftykins | https://www.dropbox.com/s/3140rv4kypk5dnc/powerlinetest.gif?dl=0 | 01:34 |
| daftykins | "500Mbps" power line adapters with a 100Mb port are officially false advertising imo \o/ | 01:34 |
| shauno | what happens if you have more than 2 such adaptors? | 02:36 |
| shauno | I mean, say you have 4, can you get 100mbit from A-B and C-D simultaneously? | 02:37 |
| daftykins | mmm not sure | 02:38 |
| daftykins | depends what routes your house mains wiring runs | 02:39 |
| shauno | actually, I guess it's a pointless question unless you can also do A-C and B-D :) | 02:40 |
| daftykins | that's the thing i don't quite get, i see it as being surely just point to point | 02:41 |
| daftykins | but the box of the item paints a different picture | 02:41 |
| shauno | I guess that's what I was wondering. if it's simply point-to-point, then you'd expect 500meg straight through | 02:42 |
| shauno | if it's actually a network to itself, then 500meg becomes the capacity of the 'trunk' (mains) | 02:42 |
| daftykins | i think it is, and likely they refer to 500Mb because of overhead | 02:43 |
| daftykins | as otherwise calling that 500 but the ports being 100Mb is pretty fail design :D | 02:43 |
| daftykins | http://uk.tp-link.com/resources/document/TL-PA451KIT%28UK_V2_Datasheet.pdf | 02:43 |
| daftykins | here we go, check out the picture at the bottom | 02:44 |
| daftykins | or i can take an image if you'd prefer not to touch PDF :> | 02:44 |
| shauno | heh | 02:44 |
| shauno | I'm on a mac, pdf is handled pretty natively :) | 02:44 |
| daftykins | ^_^ | 02:44 |
| shauno | hm, see their diagram shows 6 points being used on one network (not 3 pairs) | 02:45 |
| intrbiz | as I understand it, powerline networking is a broadcast medium | 02:46 |
| intrbiz | so the 500Mb/s is the global bandwidth | 02:46 |
| intrbiz | regardless that each plug can only handle 100Mb/s | 02:46 |
| daftykins | ah i see | 02:47 |
| intrbiz | its a little like WiFI in that the WiFi bandwidth is global | 02:47 |
| daftykins | so you can indeed add 2 and it becomes a triangle of funkiness 0o | 02:47 |
| daftykins | sorry, add 1 to my kit of 2 | 02:47 |
| intrbiz | so with single stream N, 150Mb/s between two stations would max the air space | 02:47 |
| shauno | 3's a bad example because you couldn't get two 100mbit streams through without saturating one first | 02:47 |
| intrbiz | so that other stations could not reach 150Mb/s | 02:47 |
| shauno | but with 4 you should be able to get 2 100meg streams a-b and c-d | 02:48 |
| intrbiz | so a 500Mb/s P/L network could handle 5 x 100Mb/s plugs talking at the same time | 02:48 |
| intrbiz | effectively thing of it as a time divided shared medium | 02:48 |
| shauno | it's a shame they don't have a variant with a gig-e port though. having the router behind a 100meg port is a bit sadface | 02:48 |
| intrbiz | rarely the router has > 100Mb/s internet connection | 02:49 |
| daftykins | yeah, makes me love my cat6 even more :> | 02:49 |
| shauno | I don't mind being rare :) | 02:49 |
| daftykins | likely i'll gift these to friends who don't quite have the same standards | 02:49 |
| shauno | I avoid powerline stuff because it sounds like a nightmare for my radios | 02:50 |
| intrbiz | at one point HAM groups did try to mount legal action over the EMI of Powerline | 02:51 |
| daftykins | that's true, we had someone the other day saying it was evil | 02:51 |
| shauno | well it should't really propogate far | 02:51 |
| shauno | but I think it's a safe assumption that it'd be noticable within my own home at least | 02:51 |
| intrbiz | yes, but it does place interference onto the mains, which might not be filtered by a radios PSU | 02:52 |
| intrbiz | unless you've got a good range of caps in that | 02:52 |
| shauno | well, it's going to turn every mains cable on that circuit into radiators too | 02:52 |
| daftykins | i could probably test that as just now i tested its' speed by going up into my bedroom where i have a micro component hi-fi with a squeezebox (wifi music streamer) | 02:52 |
| intrbiz | daftykins: btw getting 11.4MB/s on 100Mb/s port is basically maxing the line | 02:55 |
| daftykins | yes, i know networking sir ;) | 02:55 |
| daftykins | you can see i'm alost saturating gigabit \o/ | 02:55 |
| daftykins | RAID -> SSD was the first image | 02:56 |
| daftykins | kinda surprised i got 2 cables in with the box | 03:06 |
| daftykins | nice of them to make a kit... an actual kit :) | 03:07 |
| === zmoylan-1i is now known as zmoylan-pi | ||
| markp | hi night owls | 04:59 |
| daftykins | o hai | 05:05 |
| zmoylan-pi | twit twoo | 05:09 |
| markp | hey= zmoylan-pi | 05:43 |
| markp | hey daftykins | 05:43 |
| daftykins | o hai | 05:44 |
| daftykins | just about to call it | 05:44 |
| daftykins | broken again :< | 05:44 |
| zmoylan-pi | what's broken? | 05:45 |
| markp | ?:( | 05:45 |
| daftykins | my sleep schedule :D | 05:46 |
| zmoylan-pi | a very hard thing to fix | 05:47 |
| daftykins | indeed! | 05:48 |
| daftykins | especially with not much going on in winter time | 05:48 |
| daftykins | alright, i'm gonna head off... g'night gents \o | 05:48 |
| zmoylan-pi | sleep well | 05:48 |
| daftykins | ty! | 05:49 |
| mapps | gah cursor froze | 05:55 |
| mapps | stupid win8 | 05:55 |
| zmoylan-pi | isn't the word stupid redundant when you say win8? :-) | 05:58 |
| mapps | :D | 05:59 |
| mapps | this itpl tennis has some funny rules | 06:04 |
| mapps | power point..reciever can chose one point per set to be worth double heh | 06:04 |
| zmoylan-pi | some sort of sportsball thing? or video game thereof? :-) | 06:08 |
| mapps | real play..tennis some new league | 06:09 |
| mapps | got some biug names in it | 06:09 |
| mapps | need some new bedtime comedies;d | 06:19 |
| zmoylan-pi | have you tried the bbc radio comedy cabin pressure? | 06:27 |
| mapps | nah never...whats it about? | 06:27 |
| mapps | and on iplayer? | 06:28 |
| zmoylan-pi | you'd have to get it other ways these days. it stars cumberbatch of sherlock fame as a pilot in one plane airline. very very funny. 25 episode over 4 series and last episode in a few weeks | 06:33 |
| mapps | night | 06:46 |
| mapps | off to sleep:) | 06:46 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| MooDoo | morning all | 08:19 |
| directhex | an ubuntu tablet. with spinning rust. https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-ubutab-a-1tb-ubuntu-tablet-for-media-lovers | 08:45 |
| ali1234 | $36000 for a one off production run at $290 per device? | 08:49 |
| MooDoo | there is this one as well i found this morning. - https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-ubutab-a-1tb-ubuntu-tablet-for-media-lovers | 08:52 |
| MooDoo | https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/imp-the-tiny-home-computer sorry this one | 08:52 |
| ali1234 | >_< | 08:53 |
| JamesTait | Good morning all; happy Make A Gift Day! :-D | 09:49 |
| zmoylan-pi | use the heaviest paper possible when wrapping and see if the statistics show more postman injured this year in deliveries | 09:50 |
| mjayk | Good morning JamesTait | 09:52 |
| MooDoo | howdy JamesTait | 09:58 |
| JamesTait | mjayk, MooDoo: o/ | 10:03 |
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 10:42 |
| zmoylan-pi | morning mammals | 10:42 |
| brobostigon | moringin zmoylan-pi | 10:44 |
| mjayk | hay ho sir | 11:02 |
| diddledan | popey, you asked me to ping you when https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/993837 occurs again. so ping. | 11:11 |
| lubotu3 | Launchpad bug 993837 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "Can't open Update Manager window after a while" [High,Confirmed] | 11:12 |
| popey | aha | 11:12 |
| popey | diddledan: do you have multiple screens? | 11:12 |
| diddledan | I do, yes | 11:12 |
| popey | using unity? | 11:12 |
| diddledan | yup | 11:12 |
| popey | if you click the update manager do you get a solid triangle to the left of it in the launcher? | 11:13 |
| popey | or an empty one? | 11:13 |
| diddledan | indeed I do | 11:13 |
| diddledan | a solid one | 11:13 |
| popey | can you alt-tab to it? | 11:13 |
| diddledan | it appears in the list but selecting it doesn't bring it to the fore | 11:14 |
| popey | ok | 11:14 |
| popey | alt-tab to it | 11:14 |
| popey | then ALT+space | 11:14 |
| popey | does a menu appear? | 11:15 |
| popey | and, if you alt-tab to it, then alt-space then (if menu appears) choose move, does the window appear? | 11:15 |
| diddledan | no, it leaves hexchat in the fore (the previously active window) and alt-space opens hexchat's menu (as proven by selecting minimize from the menu and having hexchat disappear) | 11:16 |
| popey | ok | 11:16 |
| popey | press Super + W, do you see the update manager window? | 11:16 |
| popey | if not, press Super + Shift + W and do you see it then? | 11:17 |
| diddledan | nope | 11:17 |
| diddledan | neither of those show it | 11:17 |
| popey | 14.04 or 14.10? | 11:17 |
| diddledan | 14.10 | 11:17 |
| diddledan | I've seen it in successive releases though, but can't remember how far back it goes | 11:18 |
| popey | is it a particularly slow pc? | 11:18 |
| diddledan | not at all | 11:18 |
| popey | hmmmm | 11:20 |
| popey | diddledan: has your system got a high uptime? | 11:26 |
| popey | i.e. has unity been updated but not restarted for a while? | 11:26 |
| diddledan | 11:26:31 up 12:34, 2 users, load average: 0.60, 0.46, 0.32 | 11:26 |
| diddledan | I wouldn't consider that high | 11:26 |
| diddledan | but no updates have been applied since last reboot | 11:27 |
| popey | hmm | 11:31 |
| popey | Not sure then, sorry. | 11:32 |
| popey | I suspect bamf | 11:32 |
| * popey asks a desktop person | 11:33 | |
| diddledan | doing my bit for the enemy: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=531526 | 11:49 |
| lubotu3 | bugs.gentoo.org bug 531526 in Vulnerabilities "<net-misc/openvpn-2.3.6 Denial of Service Vulnerability CVE-2014-8104" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 11:49 |
| diddledan | o_O | 11:49 |
| diddledan | lubotu does gentoo buglinks? | 11:49 |
| shauno | I believe it does RH, so why not? | 11:52 |
| diddledan | because they're the enema | 11:52 |
| diddledan | :-p | 11:52 |
| shauno | bugs are the enemy :) | 11:53 |
| Myrtti | Is that the one I mentioned some days back? | 11:53 |
| shauno | I believe so | 11:53 |
| diddledan | Myrtti, yes | 11:53 |
| diddledan | Myrtti, popey, do you know whether the ubuntu security team aware of the openvpn vulnerability? | 12:15 |
| popey | they're on the usual lists | 12:15 |
| Myrtti | no idea, I've been concentrating on my own issues | 12:15 |
| popey | you can pop by #ubuntu-security | 12:15 |
| diddledan | it wasn't announced on a usual list IIRC | 12:15 |
| jpds | diddledan: Already released. | 12:24 |
| diddledan | thanks, jpds | 12:25 |
| jpds | diddledan: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2430-1/ | 12:25 |
| diddledan | aah, yesterday | 12:25 |
| * jpds pats his IPsec connections instead. | 12:26 | |
| diddledan | ipsec ftw | 12:26 |
| diddledan | I've always found it a pain to configure tho | 12:26 |
| jpds | diddledan: Not on Ubuntu, it isn't anymore. | 12:27 |
| bigcalm | Good morning peeps :) | 12:35 |
| bigcalm | intrbiz: ping | 12:35 |
| diddledan | pong | 12:56 |
| bigcalm | !ping | 12:56 |
| lubotu3 | pong! | 12:56 |
| bigcalm | !ding | 12:56 |
| lubotu3 | dong | 12:56 |
| zmoylan-pi | denny | 12:56 |
| bigcalm | !king | 12:56 |
| lubotu3 | kong | 12:56 |
| diddledan | !sing | 12:56 |
| diddledan | bah | 12:57 |
| diddledan | lubotu3, you suck | 12:57 |
| awilkins | The bot in *our* IRC channel hurls an obscenity at you if you tell it it sucks.... | 13:01 |
| diddledan | awilkins, now that's a bot I can do business with! | 13:01 |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch | ||
| davmor2 | bigcalm: you need help | 13:08 |
| davmor2 | also bigcalm marco | 13:08 |
| bigcalm | !marco | 13:09 |
| bigcalm | Hehe, yeah, that's missing | 13:09 |
| === MooDoo is now known as Guest92117 | ||
| === Guest92117 is now known as MooDoo | ||
| directhex | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46ivFpsmEVQ | 13:41 |
| diddledan | http://www.kitguru.net/channel/jon-martindale/say-goodbye-to-clip-art/ | 13:41 |
| === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g | ||
| diddledan | directhex, that's awesome | 13:45 |
| diddledan | and now I get this as related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKOZgQy8qrw | 13:50 |
| Safiyyah | Daftykins, Ali1234 are you around? | 14:05 |
| Safiyyah | Sandisk does not support Linux and their drivers in order to test the drive are only for Mac and Windows users because well apparently Linux allows user to change settings | 14:09 |
| Safiyyah | I think this is my first and last purchase of SanDisk | 14:10 |
| diddledan | Safiyyah, tell them the drive isn't recognised by the computer. it has nothing to do with linux | 14:10 |
| Safiyyah | Am so angry! | 14:12 |
| Safiyyah | They haven't got a clue about anything! | 14:12 |
| Safiyyah | They are telling me to try a different SATA cable | 14:12 |
| Safiyyah | Diddledan you know Samsung supports Linux..... It was between this drive and a Samsung one and I chose this one. £115 down the toilet! | 14:13 |
| intrbiz | Safiyyah: I'm intrigued, in what way does it not show up? | 14:15 |
| diddledan | intrbiz, it doesn't present a block device file in /dev - or rather it does for a few moments and then it disappears | 14:17 |
| diddledan | when using the drive on his booted system he gets system lockups | 14:17 |
| Safiyyah237 | Diddledan I think we have to get the machine going in the meantime as Daftykins was saying last night. This returns process will take 3 to 4 weeks. I have work to do | 14:18 |
| diddledan | we tried probing it with fdisk which reported it as being 600PB in size | 14:18 |
| intrbiz | right, that's a new one | 14:19 |
| diddledan | basically it's screwed | 14:19 |
| intrbiz | sounds like the disk hardware is fucked | 14:19 |
| diddledan | bingo | 14:19 |
| diddledan | but.. | 14:20 |
| diddledan | !language | 14:20 |
| lubotu3 | The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList | 14:20 |
| diddledan | :-p | 14:20 |
| Safiyyah237 | Diddledan let me know if you have time to help me get the /root drive Corsair going. Because the OS is there but no home drive | 14:20 |
| intrbiz | my mate had a Samsung EV) 840 1TB, that died after less than a week, wouldn't how on the SATA bus at all, even to the controller | 14:20 |
| intrbiz | took about 4 weeks to get a replacement from Samsung | 14:20 |
| Safiyyah237 | Daftykins said he would be back at night, but this is a reality check that I have to get the machine going in the meantime | 14:21 |
| Safiyyah237 | OMG I was going to buy either the Samsung EVO Or this SanDisk X110 | 14:21 |
| Safiyyah237 | And decided on the SanDisk | 14:21 |
| Safiyyah237 | Well at least Samsung supports Linux | 14:21 |
| intrbiz | In what way do Samsun support Linux | 14:22 |
| Safiyyah237 | Nothing more irritating than speaking to customer services who don't have a clue what to do | 14:22 |
| intrbiz | their fix tool for the 840 EV0 doesn't run on Linux | 14:22 |
| intrbiz | they provide a DOS boot iso | 14:22 |
| intrbiz | which crashes on AMD sata controllers | 14:22 |
| Safiyyah237 | Ibtrbiz they have diagnostic tools that work for Linux users | 14:22 |
| intrbiz | right ok | 14:23 |
| Safiyyah237 | Sandisk has nothing | 14:23 |
| Safiyyah237 | Yes but then dos boot iso works on any platform | 14:23 |
| intrbiz | how old is it? | 14:23 |
| intrbiz | Safiyyah237: you'd think, but not so | 14:24 |
| intrbiz | lots of issues with, it had to be a CD and not a DVD and couldn't be USB, etc etc | 14:24 |
| Safiyyah237 | Yeah I have been unable to burn Ubuntu since the size grew to DVD size and I do prefer disks to USB.... So Cd not a bad thing. At least there is something that works | 14:27 |
| Safiyyah237 | Diddledan be back in the evening again for stage two. Please. | 14:30 |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| diddledan | http://www.geek.com/geek-cetera/steve-wozniak-may-get-his-own-gadget-focused-reality-tv-show-1610819/ | 15:18 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| bashrc | more technology speculation. sounds like one to avoid | 15:25 |
| diddledan | it's woz, though! | 15:25 |
| bashrc | exactly | 15:26 |
| davmor2 | diddledan: so there is 2 reasons to avoid it :) | 15:27 |
| diddledan | >.< | 15:27 |
| davmor2 | diddledan: add to that the reality bit and I really don't want to know | 15:28 |
| diddledan | heh | 15:28 |
| diddledan | so linux networking - the linux bonding driver.. can I use that to double my throughput from a gigabit switch into a system with a pair of 10/100 NICs? | 15:29 |
| diddledan | i.e. my router is only 10/100 capable but I've got two internet connections dangled on the end which are aggregately more than the 10/100 throughput - so can I connect my lan-side via a bonded pair of 10/100's to allow the router to work at a speed more akin to the pair of internet connections combined? | 15:31 |
| diddledan | the load balancing on the internet side is already sorted via openwrt's thingy that does that | 15:32 |
| diddledan | (mwan3 according to the ui does the wan load balancing, so I just need the lan-side) | 15:32 |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|tea | ||
| === alan_g|tea is now known as alan_g | ||
| popey | hey chaps | 15:56 |
| popey | http://www.amazon.co.uk/TaoTronics-TT-BS003-Automatic-Sensing-Handheld/dp/B006LVO56W/ | 15:56 |
| popey | that should work on linux? | 15:56 |
| popey | just a keyboard isn't it? | 15:56 |
| Daviey | popey: Hai. I had one of those about 6 years ago.. it was indeed just a keyboard. | 16:04 |
| zmoylan-pi | the description mentions keyboard layouts so it's not trying to be fancy by the looks of it | 16:04 |
| popey | ta | 16:05 |
| Dave2 | Operation System May NOT Compatible: | 16:05 |
| Dave2 | - Blackberry Curves OS system / MacOS X versions | 16:06 |
| popey | haha | 16:14 |
| === webpigeon_ is now known as webpigeon | ||
| * isleofmandan met Mr S today. Nice chap. | 17:21 | |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| abrams | hello :) | 19:34 |
| === MooDoo is now known as Guest44253 | ||
| * DJones pokes Guest44253 with a new nickname | 19:47 | |
| foobarry | is there an alternative touchpad driver i can use in the kernel? | 20:40 |
| foobarry | the one i have is rubbish | 20:40 |
| foobarry | GlidePoint Virtual Touchpad as /devices/virtual/input/input14 | 20:44 |
| foobarry | AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint as /devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input16 | 20:44 |
| foobarry | hmm seem to have found a solution after 6 months of struggle | 21:06 |
| diddledan | \o/ | 21:06 |
| foobarry | got a "new" psmouse-alps driver | 21:09 |
| foobarry | not sure what version the old one was | 21:09 |
| daftykins | tum te tum | 21:10 |
| daftykins | i see i missed our visitor | 21:10 |
| foobarry | i hide joins/quits | 21:11 |
| daftykins | nah i have highlights from backlog in my away log :> | 21:14 |
| diddledan | potentially not safe for children: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skVxj-HYzew | 21:14 |
| daftykins | "diddledan: not safe for children" :D | 21:15 |
| * diddledan mutters something about shoving family friendly somewhere painful :-p | 21:15 | |
| diddledan | daftykins, that makes me sound like a predator | 21:15 |
| foobarry | got sent to coventry today | 21:15 |
| foobarry | attending HPC conf | 21:16 |
| diddledan | foobarry, yey? | 21:16 |
| foobarry | got a red feodra from redhat :D | 21:16 |
| daftykins | diddledan: sorry, chap | 21:16 |
| daftykins | you're more of an... opportunist | 21:16 |
| daftykins | :> | 21:16 |
| diddledan | lol | 21:16 |
| foobarry | got some stickers for my son | 21:16 |
| daftykins | foobarry: did you ask what you're meant to do with it? is it cheap and nasty? | 21:17 |
| foobarry | soon he will have ubuntu and cray stickers on his scooter | 21:17 |
| foobarry | no, its a nice hat, very nice | 21:17 |
| daftykins | ooh | 21:17 |
| foobarry | "my other computer is a cray" | 21:17 |
| diddledan | my other computer is an abacus | 21:17 |
| daftykins | i think they missed a trick there | 21:18 |
| daftykins | "my other computer IS cray" | 21:18 |
| daftykins | eh? eh? | 21:18 |
| diddledan | thas craycray! | 21:18 |
| foobarry | got some special beer | 21:19 |
| foobarry | 7% | 21:19 |
| foobarry | will be giving it to a college | 21:19 |
| foobarry | colleague | 21:19 |
| diddledan | oh dear, we've turned into teenagers | 21:19 |
| daftykins | LOL a college | 21:19 |
| daftykins | that's perfect | 21:19 |
| diddledan | lol | 21:19 |
| daftykins | get some special brew, 9% iirc | 21:19 |
| daftykins | horrible stuff :P | 21:20 |
| foobarry | syrup | 21:21 |
| foobarry | http://i.imgur.com/CFb1m1o.jpg | 21:22 |
| daftykins | Skype is shameless on Windows, "make MSN my homepage" | 21:22 |
| daftykins | haha, no | 21:22 |
| foobarry | https://twitter.com/SciComp_STFC/status/540094602230136833 | 21:25 |
| foobarry | these red hats | 21:25 |
| diddledan | foobarry, I want one! | 21:26 |
| daftykins | wow, that carpet | 21:26 |
| diddledan | eek, that carpet | 21:26 |
| daftykins | do i see black hats beneath too? | 21:26 |
| foobarry | wow i never noticed the carpet | 21:27 |
| foobarry | https://twitter.com/SciComp_STFC/status/539394541338755072 | 21:27 |
| foobarry | better pic | 21:27 |
| foobarry | this was at conventry city ground | 21:27 |
| foobarry | ah no daftykins they were thsirts | 21:28 |
| daftykins | ah ok | 21:29 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| Safiyyah | Daftykins am here.... Are you? | 22:17 |
| daftykins | o/ | 22:17 |
| daftykins | slightly merry though :> | 22:17 |
| daftykins | so few days for the return huh? | 22:17 |
| Safiyyah | Lol more like three weeks | 22:17 |
| daftykins | D: | 22:18 |
| Safiyyah | I can't afford not to have a PC for that long | 22:18 |
| Safiyyah | So we will have to do what you suggested | 22:18 |
| Safiyyah | I work from home, and I just finished work 15 minutes ago. No PC = no money coming in. | 22:19 |
| Safiyyah | I thought it was just gonna be a week at the most. So I could use my phone for Skype etc and give excuses. But that is just too long | 22:20 |
| Safiyyah | So do I need to load a lives session now? | 22:20 |
| diddledan | why would you be without a pc? | 22:20 |
| diddledan | it's only one of two hdds | 22:20 |
| Safiyyah | Lol remember yesterday I had wanted to leave it as it. Not to mess up the setup? | 22:21 |
| Safiyyah | Well I thought I would have been better off with the Samsung EVO but turn out not from the earlier conversation. So looks like it's just your luck with these things | 22:22 |
| Safiyyah | Okay it's loading... Give it a minute | 22:22 |
| daftykins | diddledan: need to create a /home on the SSD for / | 22:24 |
| daftykins | and adjust mounts | 22:25 |
| Safiyyah | Daftykins... I need to ascertain that when the replacement drive gets here, I will just plug it in and come back to reset the /home to the new drive again? | 22:26 |
| Safiyyah | I am online via Web as Safiyyah2 | 22:27 |
| Safiyyah | Ready! | 22:27 |
| Safiyyah2 | : | 22:28 |
| daftykins | guess i best stop playing games then! | 22:28 |
| Safiyyah2 | lol | 22:28 |
| daftykins | so 12.04 booted is it? | 22:28 |
| Safiyyah2 | yep | 22:28 |
| Safiyyah2 | am on it | 22:28 |
| Safiyyah2 | on the web, terminal fired up | 22:28 |
| Safiyyah2 | I don't know if it is relevant, but my OS is Xubuntu | 22:29 |
| daftykins | eww never seen milk form a skin atop tea before o0 | 22:29 |
| Safiyyah2 | lol daftykins.... thats what it's supposed to do. Maybe you drink your tea with lots of water | 22:29 |
| daftykins | last time i think we were getting errors from "sudo mount -t ext4 /dev/sda1 /mnt" | 22:29 |
| Safiyyah2 | and this time you put more milk | 22:30 |
| Safiyyah2 | it is normal | 22:30 |
| Safiyyah2 | shall I re-run that command? | 22:30 |
| daftykins | it was all wrinkled! | 22:30 |
| daftykins | yep | 22:30 |
| Safiyyah2 | daftykins, its meant to wrinkle | 22:30 |
| daftykins | with any luck it'll play ball today | 22:31 |
| Safiyyah2 | http://paste.ubuntu.com/9358354/ | 22:31 |
| Safiyyah2 | Same as last night!!! | 22:31 |
| daftykins | oh my word | 22:32 |
| daftykins | oh yeah did you run memtest overnight? | 22:32 |
| Safiyyah2 | yes, no errors were found | 22:32 |
| Safiyyah2 | it passed | 22:32 |
| daftykins | well that's something at least | 22:33 |
| Safiyyah2 | It looks like I will be having to do a clean install, like it or not :( | 22:33 |
| Safiyyah2 | and I had everything just right :( | 22:33 |
| daftykins | does seem pretty odd that both of these drives are unhappy | 22:34 |
| Safiyyah2 | you know one suggestion for the software centre is that when you log in, it gives a list for the applications you have downloaded in the past | 22:34 |
| diddledan | they're both dead?! | 22:34 |
| Safiyyah2 | well, this one isn't under Warranty.... it's passed warranty! | 22:35 |
| Safiyyah2 | lol | 22:35 |
| daftykins | can do you a "sudo parted -l" and confirm sda1 is ext4? | 22:35 |
| Safiyyah2 | http://paste.ubuntu.com/9358446/ | 22:36 |
| Safiyyah2 | yes it is ext 4 | 22:36 |
| daftykins | so the thing is now, we could mess around for an hour or two and maybe still not be the wiser... or you could just clean install atop it | 22:37 |
| daftykins | tough call really | 22:37 |
| diddledan | have you got another pc you can try the discs in to determine whether the fault is on the ata controller or endemic to the discs themselves? | 22:38 |
| daftykins | nope. | 22:38 |
| diddledan | dang | 22:38 |
| diddledan | this is why pc-kleptomania serves me well | 22:38 |
| Safiyyah2 | nope | 22:38 |
| Safiyyah2 | what is the ata controller? | 22:39 |
| daftykins | Safiyyah2: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install smartmontools" | 22:39 |
| daftykins | the thing that provides the SATA ports on the motherboard | 22:39 |
| daftykins | "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda" | 22:39 |
| ahayzen | Hey, folks i'm on utopic and i've been having unity freezing for at least 30s randomly (twice today) and a few other times this week... i just checked dmesg and this is the output http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/9358472/ .. does this look bad? | 22:39 |
| diddledan | daftykins, that's smart :-p | 22:39 |
| daftykins | diddledan: hmm? do shout if you think any of my ideas are silly | 22:40 |
| daftykins | i'm a tad tipsy | 22:40 |
| diddledan | daftykins, no, I mean checking smartmontools is a smart idea | 22:40 |
| diddledan | smart. | 22:40 |
| diddledan | </attempted humour> | 22:40 |
| Safiyyah2 | diddledan So now the issue is whether it's the board/harddrive? | 22:41 |
| daftykins | diddledan: ok i did think so, just checking ;) | 22:41 |
| daftykins | Safiyyah2: yeah that's diddledan's thinking. | 22:41 |
| Safiyyah2 | smart tools installed | 22:41 |
| Safiyyah2 | remember yesterday it refused | 22:41 |
| daftykins | yeah that was with the definitely wonky disk connected though | 22:41 |
| daftykins | Safiyyah2: maybe after those last two commands it wouldn't hurt to remove the funky power connector you mentioned and just use the SATA power connectors from the PSU direct | 22:42 |
| Safiyyah2 | hard disk drive prices down by 40% since September (already!!) is this how it goes? | 22:42 |
| daftykins | at least i think that's what you mentioned | 22:42 |
| diddledan | ahayzen, I'd ubuntu-bug it | 22:42 |
| ahayzen | diddledan, ubuntu bug which component? and there is no crash log | 22:42 |
| Safiyyah2 | daftykins this HDD has regular connectors. | 22:42 |
| ahayzen | *crash file | 22:42 |
| Safiyyah2 | the funky one was with the new drive | 22:43 |
| daftykins | Safiyyah2: just to be clear, don't call an SSD an HDD :) it confuses my poor little brain | 22:43 |
| Safiyyah2 | sorry | 22:43 |
| daftykins | :D | 22:43 |
| Safiyyah2 | this SSD, has normal connectors. one SATA and one power | 22:43 |
| daftykins | ahayzen: i spy a Nexus 4 owner, have you put Lollipop on yet? ;) i'm ignoring it for now | 22:43 |
| ahayzen | daftykins, ... Ubuntu Touch sorry | 22:44 |
| daftykins | ah ok | 22:44 |
| daftykins | you're brave. | 22:44 |
| ahayzen | its my daily phone :) | 22:44 |
| daftykins | Safiyyah2: ah ok, i thought you said something about a Y cable of some sort | 22:44 |
| ahayzen | and i'm on the proposed channel thats living life on the edge lol | 22:44 |
| Safiyyah2 | daftykins, yes for the SSD that is dead. | 22:45 |
| daftykins | Safiyyah2: did smartctl run? | 22:45 |
| daftykins | "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda" | 22:45 |
| Safiyyah2 | daftykins, I installed the software | 22:45 |
| Safiyyah2 | http://paste.ubuntu.com/9358541/ | 22:46 |
| Safiyyah2 | :( bad news | 22:46 |
| diddledan | I smell a wonky ata chip | 22:47 |
| daftykins | what on earth | 22:47 |
| daftykins | that's not good, Safiyyah2 only changed motherboard a bit ago | 22:47 |
| diddledan | wonky cable? | 22:47 |
| daftykins | well i did enquire as to a reseat yesterday | 22:47 |
| daftykins | Safiyyah2: haven't got any other SATA cables lying around have you? | 22:48 |
| Safiyyah2 | i have spare SATA cable | 22:48 |
| diddledan | try it | 22:48 |
| diddledan | also try different ports on the mobo | 22:48 |
| Safiyyah2 | okay | 22:48 |
| Safiyyah2 | gonna power down | 22:48 |
| Safiyyah2 | am on the phone still | 22:48 |
| * diddledan gives daftykins a mobo award | 22:48 | |
| daftykins | diddledan: will i earn the full set before christmas :( | 22:49 |
| daftykins | guess peeps can't come online to have me tell them their PSU is dead ;) | 22:49 |
| ahayzen | diddledan, ok so it actually looks a bit like this bug https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=64431 | 22:52 |
| lubotu3 | bugzilla.kernel.org bug 64431 in Video(DRI - Intel) "[ivy bridge] intel_crtc_wait_for_pending_flips crash" [Normal,Needinfo] | 22:52 |
| diddledan | ahayzen, try filing the issue against "linux" | 22:52 |
| diddledan | that does sound related, yes | 22:53 |
| ahayzen | diddledan, thanks i'll report a bug anyway :) | 22:53 |
| daftykins | mindblowing when even intel drivers aren't stable, to me | 22:54 |
| daftykins | ahayzen: is that system76 on the latest BIOS and what not? | 22:54 |
| ahayzen | daftykins, erm i haven't flashed the BIOS so its what it came with | 22:54 |
| daftykins | have a glance at whether their support page offers any updates, can't hurt to see | 22:54 |
| daftykins | i doubt they normally touch intel graphics issues but eh, costs nothing :) | 22:55 |
| ahayzen | daftykins, i never had trusty freeze its only recently on utopic it seems to be freezing ... and i have their drivers package installed | 22:55 |
| diddledan | I've seen intel employees on the lkml suggesting that something be hacked around in the kernel source because they can't work out how the gfx is supposed to behave | 22:55 |
| daftykins | haha | 22:55 |
| daftykins | that's nasty | 22:55 |
| * ahayzen wonders if icedtea-7-plugin or running Firefox nightly is related | 22:56 | |
| daftykins | hehe | 22:56 |
| diddledan | I mean, intel employees, working on intel-released code for running intel designed chips. and they can't make it work. | 22:56 |
| daftykins | all i've seen with utopic is constant upgrade woes :) | 22:56 |
| Safiyyah | Moved the cables round and now it won't boot from cd.... It's boots straight onto OS, which says there is no /home..... As expected | 22:57 |
| Safiyyah | Just gonna check I didn't knock any cables out | 22:57 |
| diddledan | surely if it works in windows drivers by intel then there must be a way of getting it to work in linux drivers by intel | 22:57 |
| daftykins | unless something in the kernel is *gasp* amiss | 22:57 |
| diddledan | in which case fix that rather than disabling the function in the driver which clashes | 22:58 |
| Safiyyah | My computer is making some serious noises..... Dammit! | 22:59 |
| diddledan | cable mashing against a fan? | 22:59 |
| Safiyyah | Nope | 23:00 |
| Safiyyah | But the actual DVD drive sounds like a tractor | 23:01 |
| Safiyyah | Am going to restart | 23:01 |
| ahayzen | daftykins, diddledan, thanks for your help, i've reported a bug, removed icedtea and i'm going to not run the nightly for a bit to see if that stops the freezes | 23:01 |
| Safiyyah | I just bought that DVD drive | 23:01 |
| daftykins | np! | 23:01 |
| diddledan | yeah that can't be broken as well as two SSDs | 23:02 |
| diddledan | something else is at play here than the discs dying | 23:02 |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| Safiyyah | Okay it's stopped the noise | 23:02 |
| daftykins | \o/ | 23:02 |
| Safiyyah | And the disk is loading | 23:03 |
| diddledan | mm cookies | 23:03 |
| diddledan | mm'fashnik | 23:03 |
| Safiyyah | Oh I want junk food diddledan | 23:03 |
| Safiyyah | All this stress = time to eat | 23:03 |
| diddledan | not muh'fashnik like muh cookies, but mm'fashnik like mm cookies. | 23:03 |
| diddledan | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZXNxFAUAaE | 23:04 |
| diddledan | \o/ buffy | 23:04 |
| Safiyyah | Is it possible for the live disk to hang? | 23:08 |
| daftykins | yip | 23:08 |
| daftykins | booting from optical media is so 2004 :( | 23:09 |
| Safiyyah | We can remedy that. I have Kubuntu 14.04 on my external drive and an available USB stick. When it loads up again we can make a startup disk | 23:11 |
| Safiyyah | We can char 1 sum it | 23:12 |
| Safiyyah | Hello! It's has refused to boot up completely | 23:12 |
| daftykins | how rude | 23:13 |
| daftykins | err, must we mix ubuntu variants? XD | 23:13 |
| daftykins | might as well mooch xubuntu proper ;) | 23:13 |
| Safiyyah | Lol its agreed on the fourth attempt let's hope it doesn't hang | 23:14 |
| Safiyyah | I will run the tests again but make the bootable USB as well | 23:14 |
| Safiyyah | I will need help because it is on an external drive.... I can never work out the path/ directory for USB drives | 23:15 |
| Safiyyah | On the command line | 23:15 |
| daftykins | should be pretty graphical these days on plugging it in,i'd have thought | 23:17 |
| Safiyyah | It's hang again | 23:20 |
| Safiyyah | Okay I have pangolin and hardy | 23:21 |
| Safiyyah | Don't know what else to di | 23:21 |
| Safiyyah | Okay I have disks of Oneiric, natty, lucid | 23:23 |
| Safiyyah | Which knew do you want? | 23:23 |
| Safiyyah | And still have fedora | 23:23 |
| daftykins | so what's the disk config right now? new cable on the SSD? | 23:23 |
| Safiyyah | Yep and moved it to SATA port 4 | 23:24 |
| daftykins | how many are on the board total, 6? | 23:24 |
| Safiyyah | It says i/o error Dev sr0 sector 1287208 | 23:24 |
| Safiyyah | I have four | 23:24 |
| daftykins | do you have a Linux on a flash drive at all at the moment? | 23:25 |
| Safiyyah | Nope | 23:26 |
| daftykins | so i suppose i'd be tempted to pull the SSD entirely, boot the 12.04 CD then download a 14.04.1 image to your external hard disk | 23:26 |
| Safiyyah | Okay | 23:26 |
| Safiyyah | Already have 1404 on my external hard disk | 23:27 |
| Safiyyah | Just need to get to it | 23:27 |
| daftykins | but kubuntu? | 23:27 |
| Safiyyah | Yes | 23:27 |
| Safiyyah | Kubuntu | 23:27 |
| daftykins | hmm, well booting 12.04 seems challenging enough atm | 23:27 |
| daftykins | so that's step 1 regardless | 23:28 |
| Safiyyah | Am trying one last time | 23:30 |
| daftykins | Daft Punk - One More Time <o/ \o> | 23:37 |
| Safiyyah | Am inclined to think there is an issue with the board | 23:38 |
| Safiyyah | No luck | 23:38 |
| Safiyyah | Loading Oneiric | 23:38 |
| daftykins | no point trying different versions imo | 23:38 |
| Safiyyah | I can't just leave it now | 23:40 |
| Safiyyah | I have to try another disk | 23:40 |
| Safiyyah | Then and only then will I believe what is happening is happening | 23:41 |
| Safiyyah | Sorry | 23:41 |
| daftykins | i wonder what tipped it off its' rocker this time | 23:41 |
| Safiyyah | Lol its got a mind of its own | 23:41 |
| daftykins | oh they all do for certain | 23:42 |
| daftykins | isn't it still an old LGA775 setup you're running there? the older intel socket | 23:42 |
| Safiyyah | The last system crash I had about 2 and a half year ago was crazy like this as well | 23:42 |
| daftykins | :( | 23:42 |
| Safiyyah | No idea but it's a dial core 2 | 23:42 |
| Safiyyah | Dual* | 23:43 |
| Safiyyah | Its has four pins with screws on top | 23:43 |
| daftykins | intel core 2 duo, yeah sounds like LGA775 then | 23:43 |
| daftykins | for the heatsink, yeah pretty standard across many generations | 23:43 |
| Safiyyah | Yeah | 23:43 |
| Safiyyah | Daftykins if this doesn't work, as think I have to go to a friends house tomorrow and make a startup USB, I have no further solutions | 23:44 |
| Safiyyah | Okay so it logged in and then gave me a black screen. | 23:45 |
| daftykins | had you posted off the other SSD yet? | 23:45 |
| Safiyyah | NO | 23:46 |
| daftykins | i'd probably get them tested elsewhere, in a shop if need be | 23:46 |
| Safiyyah | Something is happening.... Purple screen is up... Hopefully the menu shows | 23:46 |
| Safiyyah | Both of them? | 23:47 |
| Safiyyah | Which shoo does that.... PC world. | 23:47 |
| diddledan | wow, wikipedia went for "in your face" donation requests! | 23:47 |
| daftykins | Safiyyah: yeah, just work your charm on any staff :P | 23:48 |
| Safiyyah | Lol | 23:48 |
| Safiyyah | Hardly would work | 23:48 |
| daftykins | though they may need to be warned not to look for NTFS as if it were Windows | 23:48 |
| diddledan | daftykins, that's n0rty! | 23:48 |
| daftykins | diddledan: oh dear that time again? :( | 23:48 |
| Safiyyah | Lol | 23:48 |
| Safiyyah | Erm. I think the board is dead | 23:48 |
| Safiyyah | Personally | 23:48 |
| Safiyyah | How about powering down and putting everything back in its original socket? | 23:49 |
| daftykins | wouldn't hurt, yeah | 23:49 |
| Safiyyah | Okay | 23:49 |
| daftykins | definitely seen enough errors so far to see the kernel crying away trying to use most things | 23:50 |
| daftykins | Safiyyah: in fact i have a slight plan O_. | 23:50 |
| daftykins | i figure the install on that SSD is going to freeze up still, but it might be worth trying | 23:50 |
| Safiyyah | I have given up Daftykins | 23:56 |
| Safiyyah | I think now it's a case of get the USB done...... Test the hard disk. Prepare to buy a new board and possibly HDD | 23:57 |
| Safiyyah | Okay we are up and running | 23:57 |
| Safiyyah | So moving the main drive to SATA 4 is what caused the problem | 23:58 |
| daftykins | bit weird | 23:58 |
| Safiyyah | Okay got my external drive and USB stick plugged in | 23:59 |
| daftykins | what's booted? | 23:59 |
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