| djzn | is it alright to replace Moun by Apper? | 00:02 |
|---|---|---|
| valorie | djzn: of course, you can use any software in the archive | 00:04 |
| valorie | Muon is designed and created by one of our own devels, so most of us prefer it, but some still like synaptic, etc | 00:05 |
| valorie | I myself like the package manager and not discover | 00:05 |
| valorie | but I usually bypass and just use apt | 00:05 |
| djzn | coz, let me explain... | 00:06 |
| djzn | installed a fresh system , then ran Moun and searched for "ntfs-3g" and it didn't return anything... | 00:06 |
| djzn | and it was installed on the system after checking from command line | 00:06 |
| djzn | I wanted to know if that behaviour is expected | 00:06 |
| valorie | discover, or the package manager? | 00:07 |
| valorie | discover is for applications, and doesn't report on libs and such | 00:07 |
| valorie | which is why I don't like it | 00:07 |
| djzn | yes it is discover | 00:07 |
| valorie | just like Ubuntu Software Center, which I also dislike | 00:08 |
| valorie | but I guess we are in the minority | 00:08 |
| djzn | for example, does this Package Manager gets installed by default? | 00:08 |
| valorie | not sure | 00:08 |
| djzn | i have been thinking in getting involved with Kubuntu | 00:09 |
| valorie | when you do alt+f2 and type Muon, does it show up? | 00:09 |
| djzn | I have seen that are tons of untranslated strings in my language in the installer.... | 00:09 |
| valorie | oh my | 00:09 |
| valorie | we need your help then | 00:09 |
| valorie | because that is our software | 00:09 |
| djzn | it returns the discover, and it returns a 'update manager' | 00:10 |
| valorie | ok, then obviously not installed by default | 00:10 |
| valorie | !info muon package manager | 00:10 |
| ubottu | 'package' is not a valid distribution: extras, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, stable, testing, trusty, trusty-backports, trusty-proposed, unstable, utopic, utopic-backports, utopic-proposed, vivid, vivid-backports, vivid-proposed | 00:10 |
| valorie | pfff | 00:10 |
| valorie | !info muon | 00:10 |
| ubottu | muon (source: muon): package manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.0-0ubuntu7 (utopic), package size 208 kB, installed size 1459 kB | 00:10 |
| valorie | I think the other is called muon-discover | 00:11 |
| valorie | !info muon-discover | 00:11 |
| ubottu | muon-discover (source: muon): Utility for browsing, installing, and removing applications. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.0-0ubuntu7 (utopic), package size 113 kB, installed size 896 kB | 00:11 |
| valorie | yup | 00:11 |
| djzn | 'muon' not installed by default | 00:11 |
| djzn | :-| | 00:12 |
| djzn | i finally settled with KDE. | 00:12 |
| djzn | I have been a long time Ubuntu orphan... was distro-hopping for a while, and was experimenting with ArchLinux.... but the timing required to do sysadmin just distracts me from the important things like actually developing Java skills and such... | 00:13 |
| djzn | one thing i still am yet to understand is that... Canonical 'dropped' financial support towards Kubuntu, right... and I read in the past that BlueSystems picked that up.... | 00:14 |
| valorie | yes, that's the current state | 00:18 |
| valorie | canonical still supports us in lots of ways, but no longer pays for a devel | 00:18 |
| valorie | it's all to the good; Blue systems pays *lots* of devels for Kubuntu & KDE | 00:19 |
| djzn | so that's why the 'kubuntu' name got retained | 00:19 |
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| djzn | valorie, oh I'm glad then... really cool | 00:19 |
| djzn | brb | 00:23 |
| surfz^ | Firefox 34 on Kubuntu, I can't seem to find the Hello button to test the new Video Conference feature. | 01:14 |
| surfz^ | Has anyone else had this problem? | 01:14 |
| Blue1 | i am having difficulty getting kubuntu to display all the contents of the Desktop folder. It display all the .desktop icons fine - but files and folders...nope.... | 01:31 |
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| bowser` | Can I find sed.texi on my kubuntu? | 03:09 |
| Unit193 | !find sed.texi | 03:10 |
| ubottu | Package/file sed.texi does not exist in utopic | 03:10 |
| bowser` | can i generate it? I found a recent version on gnu website, but not sure if this is way to proceed in general. | 03:11 |
| bowser` | where does kubuntu come from, since it's not Debian? | 03:15 |
| D3V | kubuntu is based of debian | 03:20 |
| bowser` | yeah, i'm mixing up ideas, sorry, thank you though | 03:20 |
| D3V | no problem | 03:20 |
| bowser` | grabbing sed.texi from gnu website is not that weird i'm guessing? kubuntu is probably packaging with this removed? | 03:21 |
| Brian_W | hi | 05:29 |
| Brian_W | I am having issues with Kubuntu after a recent update that was pushed. Namely that I cannot get my touchpad to work after I log in | 05:29 |
| Brian_W | I was hoping someone might be able to point to a resource for me to work through it | 05:29 |
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| lordievader | Good morning. | 06:16 |
| noaXess | Moorning | 06:47 |
| noaXess | does anybody use Shutter and Gimp? | 06:47 |
| ussher_ | not sure what shutter is, but do use gimp. | 06:48 |
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| soee | good morning | 07:19 |
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| alvin | ok, I'll stay on plasma5 for the time being. But it is time to report some bugs. Does anyone know how the package is named where you can view Fonts in systemsettings? | 10:17 |
| alvin | There we go again. /usr/bin/kcmshell5 is not an official Ubuntu package :-( | 10:20 |
| lordievader | alvin: PPA? | 10:21 |
| alvin | I suppose it is the extra-ppas | 10:21 |
| alvin | So, bugs against plasma5 go to the ppa? | 10:22 |
| alvin | Is there a method to use ubuntu-bug for that?I like that method. | 10:22 |
| lordievader | !plasma5 | 10:22 |
| ubottu | Kubuntu Plasma 5 is a tech preview. To test it out, see http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-plasma5/daily-live/current/ . If you find a bug, you can also check it with kubuntu-ci images for latest builds. | 10:22 |
| valorie | I'm thinking bko might be a better place | 10:22 |
| valorie | or.... ask in #plasma ? | 10:22 |
| lordievader | Hmm, that factoid does not specify where... | 10:23 |
| valorie | bko=bugs.kde.org | 10:23 |
| valorie | basically, packaging bugs go to launchpad, KDE bugs go to kde | 10:24 |
| alvin | Directly upstream? ok. No ubuntu-bug then. I guess it'll have to be done the old-fashioned way. | 10:24 |
| valorie | plasma5 isn't really packaged as such; you are using right from git pretty much | 10:24 |
| alvin | It's probably not a packaging bug. If you open kcmshell5 fontinst you'll see immediately what the problem is. | 10:24 |
| valorie | yes, I've been advocating for a `kde-bug` tool | 10:25 |
| valorie | but someone has to write the thing | 10:25 |
| alvin | There is the crash reporter, but you need the debug packages, and lots of bugs are not crash-related. | 10:25 |
| valorie | exactly | 10:25 |
| valorie | in fact, most are not | 10:26 |
| valorie | I see no problem with the fontinst | 10:26 |
| valorie | can you say what you are experiencing? | 10:26 |
| alvin | Ow? I can't see any previews. It's points, stripes, but no characters. | 10:26 |
| valorie | everything looks normal to me | 10:27 |
| valorie | I had no clue I had that many fonts | 10:27 |
| alvin | It looks like this to me https://owncloud.alvin.be/public.php?service=files&t=bda6a10829281ec34f13c188c8706c76 | 10:28 |
| valorie | yikes | 10:28 |
| alvin | Video driver? I'm using nouveau. | 10:28 |
| valorie | I never changed anything | 10:28 |
| valorie | can't recall; how do I check what I'm using? | 10:28 |
| alvin | Me neither. This is: insert stick, install. apt dist-upgrade. And this is the result. | 10:29 |
| valorie | ah, you are now in the land of full-upgrade | 10:29 |
| valorie | always do sudo apt full-upgrade | 10:29 |
| alvin | sudo lshw -short -c video will list the driver in use | 10:29 |
| valorie | might make a diff | 10:29 |
| valorie | H/W path Device Class Description | 10:30 |
| valorie | ===================================================== | 10:30 |
| valorie | /0/100/2 display 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller | 10:30 |
| valorie | didn't seem to though | 10:30 |
| alvin | Ouch, leave out the -short | 10:30 |
| alvin | my mistake. Also, full-upgrade is apparently the official method. dist-upgrade isn't even in the man page, but it worked. Probably an alias now. | 10:31 |
| valorie | https://paste.kde.org/pxkrqusyy | 10:32 |
| valorie | I don't see a driver name still | 10:32 |
| alvin | I see driver=i915 :-) | 10:33 |
| valorie | ok, not sure what that is | 10:33 |
| valorie | must be a blob of some sort? | 10:33 |
| alvin | Intel graphics. It's also an open source driver if I'm not mistaken. | 10:33 |
| valorie | ok | 10:34 |
| valorie | you can tell how much I mess with that stuff | 10:34 |
| valorie | lol | 10:34 |
| alvin | I can find this bug: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=336089 Looks bad, but not as bad as here. | 10:34 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 336089 in kcm_fontinst "Font preview - rendering problem" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 10:34 |
| alvin | Also, the reporter doesn't mention a driver. That's the fine thing about ubuntu-bug. When reporting, it will list the drivers in use. (even if it doesn't matter) | 10:35 |
| valorie | notice that was neon5 also | 10:35 |
| valorie | please add your input and your screenie to that bug report then | 10:35 |
| alvin | ok, I'll do that. Makes no sense reporting a new bug. | 10:36 |
| valorie | because your rendering problem is faaar worse | 10:36 |
| * valorie heads off to bed | 10:36 | |
| alvin | Done | 10:38 |
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| abc123def456 | Hello! Has anyone had any luck turning the compositor off in plasma5 in order to keep the desktop from freezing? | 13:39 |
| BluesKaj_ | Hiyas all | 13:51 |
| soee | abc123def456: it never freezed for me :-) | 13:57 |
| soee | but yesterday there was discussion about it ithink, Sick_Rimmit ^ | 13:57 |
| abc123def456 | soee: just out of curiousity, do you have a non-intel graphics chipset? | 14:07 |
| soee | abc123def456: on my laptop i have hybrid, intel + nvidia | 14:08 |
| soee | im working on nvidia profile | 14:08 |
| abc123def456 | soee: I have intel. I bet it's a compositor issue. | 14:08 |
| abc123def456 | the plasma5 interface is great though. I'm looking forward to 15.04 and giving tired old kde4 a rest :) | 14:11 |
| soee | :) im on plasma5 like few months already | 14:11 |
| soee | almost forget kde4 | 14:11 |
| abc123def456 | I added the ppa to ubuntu 14.10 a few days a go and converted. Then last night I downloaded a 15.04 nightly. Not bad. | 14:12 |
| soee | :) | 14:12 |
| abc123def456 | 15.04 kubuntu that is | 14:12 |
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| dario_ | fifa | 15:30 |
| alket | hi, how to replace Ark with Xarchiver in Dolphin right click ? | 16:37 |
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| damaj | hi | 17:26 |
| Walex | alket: same as everything else: file associations | 18:00 |
| skinux | Is it possible to get an icon for Dolphin on the "task bar" (left side) which will open Dolphin and prompt for super privileges? | 18:26 |
| Roguehorse | Settings -- Configure Dolphin -- Services -- Add New Services -- Search "Open Dolphin as Root" should point you in the right direction anyway | 18:42 |
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| ojorgensen | hi, doing google code in at the the moment, would any body be able to help me with a build error? | 21:33 |
| ojorgensen | hello :) | 21:46 |
| majnoon | this MAY be dumb queston: how find out if i installed 32 or 64 bit install ? | 21:50 |
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| soee | majnoon: System Settings -> About | 21:53 |
| Avihay | majnoon: from terminal uname -a | 21:53 |
| Avihay | from terminal: "uname -a" without the " | 21:54 |
| majnoon | kk THINK got 32 bit but shouldn't be too big deal | 21:55 |
| Avihay | i686 / i386? | 21:55 |
| majnoon | 686 | 21:56 |
| majnoon | tried 64 bit said wrong arch :/ | 21:56 |
| Avihay | then, yes, 32 bit | 21:56 |
| majnoon | kk what is meta package for reg ubuntu desktop ? | 22:00 |
| EvilRoey | HELLO ALL!!!! | 22:29 |
| EvilRoey | Avihay: yo :) | 22:30 |
| EvilRoey | majnoon: nice nick, haha | 22:30 |
| majnoon | yup | 22:30 |
| EvilRoey | Hey all, I have BTRFS subvols mounted for /home, / and others. How do I reinstall Kubuntu and leave /home as it is, while obliterating / ? | 22:30 |
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| reborn7_ | hey ? | 23:06 |
| soee | hiho | 23:07 |
| reborn7_ | any good program for stream like screen for drawing ? | 23:08 |
| soee | oh im not sure, you justwant to stream of give access ? | 23:10 |
| reborn7_ | no like this https://obsproject.com/ but it has not released for linux. | 23:22 |
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