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dholbachgood morning07:52
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rpadovanidpm, are you joining the hangout? :-)09:18
akiva-thinkpadthere is a hangout?09:18
rpadovaniakiva-thinkpad, reminders weekly catchup :D09:18
akiva-thinkpadah for the reminders app?09:18
akiva-thinkpadThat has turned out to be a rather complex project it seems.09:19
akiva-thinkpadThe little code I contributed to it, I found to be rather monumental. Or maybe it was because I was utterly frustrated with setting up an account.09:20
dpmrpadovani, mzanetti, I'm really sorry, I'll have to skip today, I'm in the middle of something else. Feel free to continue without me, and I'll follow up either on IRC or e-mail later on in the day09:20
akiva-thinkpadmzanetti, are you streaming it? I wouldnt mind listening to it just to get a hedge where it is at.09:21
mzanettiakiva-thinkpad: we're usually not streaming it09:24
mzanettibut feel free to join09:24
akiva-thinkpadcool beans09:24
akiva-thinkpadCanonical only09:27
akiva-thinkpadah well09:27
mzanettidpm: heh. we figured some action points. assigned all of them to you09:34
mzanettiakiva-thinkpad: oh sorry... missed that09:34
dpmhahaha, well done09:34
mzanettiakiva-thinkpad: I can invite you for the next ones so you'd have access09:34
akiva-thinkpadhey JamesTait o/09:35
mzanettiakiva-thinkpad: need you mail09:35
JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Cookie Day! :-D09:36
JamesTaitakiva-thinkpad, o/09:36
akiva-thinkpadJamesTait, something on reddit canada you may like... sec09:36
akiva-thinkpadJamesTait, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0doMc95DEA09:37
* JamesTait prepares for the rickroll09:38
JamesTaitakiva-thinkpad, nice!:)09:40
popeyrpadovani: spoke to bzoltan and Mirv about bug 132088509:46
ubot5bug 1320885 in ubuntu-ui-toolkit (Ubuntu) "TextField ignore all text placement rules" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/132088509:46
popeyrpadovani: they suspect maybe fixed in qt 5.409:46
popeyrpadovani: bug 1294940 perhaps - can you try the ugly (but loved by mirv) qt5.4 packages as per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/QtTesting ?09:47
ubot5bug 1294940 in qtdeclarative-opensource-src (Ubuntu) "Text.AlignJustify does not properly justify text" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/129494009:47
rpadovanipopey, on it09:48
rpadovaniwell, there is a ppa for utopic? Not on vivid yet09:48
rpadovanibecause on that page there is ppa:canonical-qt5-edgers/backup-qt532 for utopic, and I suspect is for Qt5.3.209:49
rpadovaniOh, found it09:50
rpadovanilet me broke all my system \o/09:50
Mirvrpadovani: no there is no utopic silo yet, sorry10:01
Mirvfor 5.4.0. I'm not sure, maybe one could try adding the vivid apt line to sources.list on utopic too...10:01
rpadovaniMirv, seems it's time to upgrade to vivid - I don't test it on phone, sorry, I use it as main phone and dont want to break it10:01
Mirvrpadovani: yeah, you wouldn't get it working on the phone anyway :) and yes, Qt side of things _will_ partially blow up with that PPA, guaranteed, but ppa-purge is your friend after testing the qml enough10:02
Mirvrpadovani: popey: ok I just retested that today is a good day to test the 5.4 PPA - you even get to keep Ubuntu SDK and such. just to ppa-purge when finished since the PPA will occasionally silently break because of things happening in vivid archives.10:10
Mirvafter final release of upstream Qt 5.4 next week I'll start up doing a more proper PPA10:11
popeyMirv: do we plan to land 5.4 in vivid "soon"?10:12
Mirvpopey: tl; dr version is "no"10:12
rpadovaniMirv, I'm upgrading to vivid, In 45 minutes when my slow network finishes to download all packages, I'll test it10:13
Mirvpopey: we've a relatively a lot of problems https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/+bugs?field.tag=qt5.4 and there's the interesting possibility that Kubuntu might not want 5.4 in the first place for 15.04 (they haven't decided yet)10:13
gventurioSoMoN: are you Ok for our 11am catch up?10:20
oSoMoNgventuri, yes10:20
gventurioSoMoN: cool10:20
oSoMoNgventuri, I don’t have comment rights on the convergence doc though10:20
gventurioSoMoN: no wories10:21
gventurioSoMoN: any update on the bottom edge?10:21
oSoMoNgventuri, I made some good progress on the webview capture front, and I resumed work on the bottom edge prototype, but it’s not integrated in the browser yet (that’s the next big step)10:22
gventurioSoMoN: excellent10:22
popeykalikiana: rpadovani is the one who is seeing the issue...11:06
popeykalikiana: http://people.ubuntu.com/~rpadovani/Screenshot%20from%202014-12-04%2010:39:25.png11:07
kalikianarpadovani: have you got a branch with the alignment set that I could test? I can't repro it in the testcase on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/132088511:08
ubot5Launchpad bug 1320885 in ubuntu-ui-toolkit (Ubuntu) "TextField ignore all text placement rules" [Medium,Incomplete]11:08
rpadovanikalikiana, you have to change 4 lines, but you can take11:15
rpadovanibzr branch lp:ubuntu-calculator-app/reboot11:15
rpadovanithen in app/ubuntu-calculator-app.qml11:15
rpadovaniline 258 there is a textfield11:15
rpadovaniwith some comments11:15
rpadovanidecomment the comments11:15
rpadovaniand remove anchors11:15
kalikianaOk will try that,thanks11:24
rpadovanikalikiana, but I can reproduce with the example11:25
rpadovanikalikiana, http://people.ubuntu.com/~rpadovani/Screenshot%20from%202014-12-04%2012:26:05.png11:27
kalikianaWhere exactly do you test that?11:27
kalikianaI must be doing sth different11:28
rpadovanikalikiana, I took the example, saved in a file, and did qmlscene test.qml11:28
rpadovanikalikiana, oh, "where" means which system? I have the issue on desktop, amd64, both with unicorn and vivid (just finished the upgrade)11:31
mivoligomzanetti: hi11:33
mzanettihi mivoligo11:37
mivoligomzanetti: what you think about something like this: http://screencloud.net/v/FFPB11:37
mzanettimivoligo: yeah, looks good11:39
mivoligomzanetti: so I'll go with it. It's rather simple to do :)11:40
mzanettimivoligo: awesome11:40
mzanettimivoligo: seems like this weekend I'll have some time for the game11:40
mivoligomzanetti: great :)11:41
mivoligomzanetti: let me know about all the bugzzz11:41
mzanettimivoligo: I will. but there aren't many in the graphics11:41
mzanettimivoligo: but same the other way round. you mentioned wrong colors in some places. would you mind writing a list of those places down?11:42
mivoligomzanetti: as a bug raport?11:42
mzanettiyeah, that works11:42
mzanettimivoligo: did we already talk about using the UbuntuColors btw?11:42
mivoligomzanetti: you mentioned that11:42
mzanettinot sure if that's even a good idea, but basically we're having the same colors, just a little different tones11:43
mivoligomzanetti: I know but I'd go with these custom colours if you don't mind11:43
mzanettiok. works for me11:43
mivoligomzanetti: great, I'll try to push the levels today and report some bugs11:45
mivoligomzanetti: or just one with all the colours?11:45
kalikianaRpadovani I can't repro at all whatever I try including calculator works fine with the edits... What's your versions of qtdelarative-ubuntu-ui-toolkit and libqt5core5a respectively?11:54
mzanettipopey: is there a prerelease of the new terminal app around already?11:59
mzanettipopey: I'm using that thing for actual work now and was wondering if we have a less buggy state somewhere12:00
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popeymzanetti: in pm ☻12:24
mzanettipopey: yeah, thanks... just having like 5 conversations atm...12:29
mzanettiwill test in a bit12:29
davmor2popey: maybe you know, for pdfjs and docviewer if I open a pdf from the browser where does the doc go?  for example if I go to https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/serverguide.pdf and want to read it latter how do I reopen it without re downloading it13:19
davmor2popey: I assumed the download folder but apparently not :)13:21
popeyi have no idea13:22
davmor2popey: found it13:24
davmor2popey: so no where obvious13:24
davmor2popey: ran find . | grep .pdf :)13:25
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davmor2old school ftw13:49
rpadovanikalikiana, sorry for the late, I was at launch. Atm I'm on another computer, with utopic, where I can reproduce it. Tonight I can provide to you also informations about the vivid installation13:55
kalikianarpadovani two possible points here, you got 5.3.0 as opposed to 5.3.2 and your uitk is two months old14:04
rpadovanikalikiana, oh crap, I forgot to add the ppa after the release of utopic14:04
rpadovaniLet me update it, I'll ping you later14:04
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ohmyis the a way to compact listView when some of the elements are not visible ?15:00
ohmyactually if i put some condition on an item the corresponding row is empty but the element still occupy the row15:01
akiva-thinkpadohmy, heya15:02
ohmyakiva-thinkpad: hello15:02
akiva-thinkpadohmy, so when an item dissapears, you want the list to contract?15:02
akiva-thinkpadget smaller?15:03
ohmyakiva-thinkpad: exactly15:03
akiva-thinkpadohmy, and this is in qml, not qt?15:03
popeyakiva-thinkpad: can you take a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~akiva/ubuntu-calendar-app/assortment-of-fixes-to-newevents/+merge/237429 ?15:03
ohmyakiva-thinkpad: yes in qml15:03
akiva-thinkpadohmy, okay set the visible: property to false15:03
akiva-thinkpadand if its in a row or column, it will automatically contract.15:03
ohmyakiva-thinkpad: not working15:04
akiva-thinkpadNot sure if that goes the same for grid view15:04
akiva-thinkpadohmy, is your code on launchpad?15:04
ohmyakiva-thinkpad: i'll pastebin15:04
akiva-thinkpadpopey, ;_; lol I know. sorry. I got sidetracked when I became frustrated in that I could not run autopilot3 tests from the sdk. Working on that atm.15:04
akiva-thinkpadohmy, sure15:05
akiva-thinkpadohmy, usually the issue with columns and rows is when a person does not want it to contract, so i'd like to see your code.15:05
ohmyakiva-thinkpad: i'm not using row/columns just a listView15:06
akiva-thinkpadohmy, right; try replacing listview with a column of labels15:07
akiva-thinkpadwould you be able to do that?15:07
akiva-thinkpadanyways show the code anyways15:07
ohmyakiva-thinkpad: http://pastebin.com/1HzwBd3c15:07
akiva-thinkpadughhh; use ubuntu pastebin for now on :P15:08
akiva-thinkpadanywhoo... /me takes a look15:08
ohmyakiva-thinkpad: someone must text it after all15:09
akiva-thinkpadanyways let me see ...15:10
akiva-thinkpadohmy, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/9368494/15:17
akiva-thinkpadtry something like that15:17
akiva-thinkpadI can't test it because I don't have the code15:18
ohmyakiva-thinkpad: thanks15:19
akiva-thinkpadohmy, sorry bad connection15:20
akiva-thinkpaddid you get that?15:20
ohmyakiva-thinkpad: yes i got it15:20
akiva-thinkpadohmy, again I dc'd. Did you get that link?15:24
ohmyakiva-thinkpad: thank yhou15:25
akiva-thinkpadohmy, does it make sense for you?15:25
ohmyakiva-thinkpad: Of course, i was originally checkling if the listView is able to contract using the same model if some items are not visible15:26
akiva-thinkpadohmy, I can guarantee this will work if you implement it.15:26
ohmyakiva-thinkpad: your solution work really fine indeed15:27
akiva-thinkpadohmy, do you have a launchpad account? if you can create a project then I could next time just branch your code and toss it in myself15:27
akiva-thinkpadokay good :)15:27
ohmyakiva-thinkpad: now i'll try to figure out my listView, maybe using a secondary data model15:28
ohmyakiva-thinkpad: thanks again15:28
akiva-thinkpadbloody connection15:32
akiva-thinkpadohmy, anyways if you havn't already; subscribe to this subreddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/ubuntuappdev and post a picture of your app, or something you are working on15:32
akiva-thinkpadI would really appreciate it, as we are trying to build the community there to attract more developers.15:33
ohmyakiva-thinkpad: sure i'll do15:34
ohmyakiva-thinkpad: i'm playing with QML since 3-4 days and trying to shorten the gap15:34
akiva-thinkpadthats pretty impressive; you seemed to have picked up the language quickly15:34
akiva-thinkpadohmy, stick around in #ubuntu-app-devel too :)15:35
ohmyakiva-thinkpad: i found it 4 days ago and i'm so enthusiastic15:38
akiva-thinkpadohmy, pretty fun language eh?15:38
akiva-thinkpadohmy, if you want some good experience, contribute to the core apps;15:39
akiva-thinkpadthey show a really nice way to structure your program15:39
rpadovanikalikiana, I'm able to reproduce it with qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-ui-toolkit-plugin Version: 1.1.1347+15.04.20141126-0ubuntu1 and libqt5core5a Version: 5.3.2+dfsg-4ubuntu815:43
mzanettirpadovani: sooo... about that calculator branch15:45
mzanettilet me know if it's ok or if I'm missing something15:45
rpadovanimzanetti, I think it's ok, tonight I'll test it on the phone15:46
rpadovaniactually, don't have time tonight, so probably tomorrow morning15:46
rpadovanibut seems it yes15:46
rpadovaniit works15:46
mzanettirpadovani: I removed the workaround for the TextField alignment15:48
mzanettisuch workarounds just make development harder and should only be applied if at the time of the release the upstream bug isn't fixed15:48
rpadovanimzanetti, yes, I saw that and I agree15:49
mzanettiotherwise you start building on top of the workaround which leads to more complex code15:49
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