| Safiyyah | pangolin | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| daftykins | ah ok | 00:00 |
| daftykins | should be a graphical way you can spot your external and mount it | 00:01 |
| daftykins | a pastebin of "sudo fdisk -l" to spot the flash drive will be handy too | 00:01 |
| Safiyyah | Firefox is freezing | 00:04 |
| Safiyyah | It's /dev/sdc1 | 00:04 |
| Safiyyah2 | http://paste.ubuntu.com/9359360/ | 00:05 |
| Safiyyah2 | sorry it's decided to work as long as I don't right click | 00:05 |
| Safiyyah2 | (firefox I mean) | 00:05 |
| Safiyyah | Dobt I just need the start up disk creator? | 00:06 |
| Safiyyah | Just select the file and do it? | 00:06 |
| daftykins | use dd | 00:07 |
| Safiyyah | do? | 00:08 |
| Safiyyah | Do? | 00:08 |
| daftykins | sudo dd if=/path/to/ISO of=/dev/sdc bs=2M | 00:08 |
| Safiyyah2 | yes what is the path to my external? | 00:09 |
| daftykins | type "mount" and it might give some clues | 00:09 |
| daftykins | or df -h | 00:09 |
| Safiyyah2 | okay I can't do cd /dev/sdb1 | 00:11 |
| Safiyyah2 | can I copy the files onto the desktop graphically? | 00:11 |
| Safiyyah2 | http://paste.ubuntu.com/9359400/ | 00:12 |
| daftykins | /media/Expansion Drive | 00:12 |
| daftykins | it's already mounted | 00:12 |
| daftykins | you can't copy things to the desktop 'cause the desktop has no space :D | 00:13 |
| Safiyyah | Cd /media /Expansion Drive also doesn't work | 00:14 |
| Safiyyah2 | http://paste.ubuntu.com/9359426/ | 00:15 |
| daftykins | because you have spaces | 00:16 |
| daftykins | that was a very bad name for a drive ;) | 00:16 |
| daftykins | use tab complete | 00:16 |
| diddledan | I thought ubuntu tracked upstream with firefox versions? i.e. new firefox gets bundled as an update in supported ubuntu | 00:16 |
| daftykins | e.g. "cd /media/E *tab* | 00:16 |
| Safiyyah2 | anyway the directory is /media/Expansion Drive/Backup 2 October 2014/Downloads/xubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64 | 00:16 |
| diddledan | just curio because I have 33 and mozilla have released 34 already | 00:16 |
| Safiyyah2 | daftykins, we can change the name lol | 00:17 |
| diddledan | aah, I had stale apt cache | 00:17 |
| daftykins | one job at a time please ;) | 00:17 |
| Safiyyah2 | :) | 00:18 |
| Safiyyah2 | http://paste.ubuntu.com/9359484/ | 00:22 |
| Safiyyah2 | it's in Backup 2 October 2014/Downloads | 00:22 |
| Safiyyah2 | same problem with the spaces but there is more than one file starting with Backup | 00:22 |
| daftykins | are you not ok using tabs to complete your paths still? | 00:24 |
| Safiyyah2 | lol | 00:24 |
| Safiyyah2 | yep | 00:24 |
| Safiyyah2 | not okay | 00:24 |
| Safiyyah2 | am sorry | 00:24 |
| daftykins | cd /media/Expansion\ Drive/Backup\ 2 *tab* | 00:26 |
| daftykins | ? | 00:26 |
| Safiyyah2 | when I press tab | 00:27 |
| Safiyyah2 | it just re-lists the directories | 00:27 |
| Safiyyah2 | http://paste.ubuntu.com/9359524/ | 00:27 |
| Safiyyah2 | When I pressed tab it gave me a list | 00:27 |
| diddledan | don't add a space on the end after "2" | 00:29 |
| diddledan | type exactly ...."Backup\ 2[tab]" | 00:29 |
| diddledan | where [tab] is the tab button | 00:29 |
| Safiyyah2 | okay we are in the directory | 00:30 |
| Safiyyah2 | sorry about no getting it | 00:31 |
| Safiyyah2 | am in!!!! now what.... something about dd? | 00:31 |
| Safiyyah2 | excuse me but it's late and I can't spell | 00:31 |
| Safiyyah2 | daftykins: did you drop off to sleep at your desk | 00:33 |
| daftykins | nop | 00:33 |
| daftykins | i'm just gaming | 00:34 |
| daftykins | sudo dd if=/path/to/ISO of=/dev/sdc bs=2M | 00:34 |
| daftykins | would've been easier for you to scroll up :P | 00:34 |
| Safiyyah2 | lol | 00:34 |
| Safiyyah2 | brain died | 00:35 |
| daftykins | ;] | 00:37 |
| Safiyyah2 | terminal is still at it | 00:40 |
| Safiyyah2 | or it has hang | 00:40 |
| Safiyyah2 | whichever one | 00:40 |
| Safiyyah2 | daftykins: here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/9359680/ | 00:41 |
| daftykins | 271MB is way too tiny for an ISO | 00:41 |
| daftykins | i don't think that's a complete download | 00:43 |
| Safiyyah2 | the download itself is 970 something | 00:43 |
| Safiyyah2 | its complete. | 00:43 |
| Safiyyah2 | I char1 summed it | 00:43 |
| daftykins | but the paste there says it wrote 270MB | 00:43 |
| Safiyyah2 | the terminal didnt finish copying | 00:43 |
| Safiyyah2 | let me rerun the command and exercise better patience | 00:44 |
| daftykins | oh yes you ctrl+C'd | 00:44 |
| daftykins | that's a BAD Safiyyah | 00:44 |
| daftykins | yo might be able to check progress with "sudo killall -USR1 dd" in a second terminal window | 00:45 |
| Safiyyah2 | daftykins: didnt meant to I was trying to copy it into paste bin for you | 01:00 |
| Safiyyah2 | cos I was wasnt sure it was hanging or not | 01:01 |
| Safiyyah2 | anyway it has finished again | 01:01 |
| daftykins | ah i see | 01:01 |
| Safiyyah2 | http://paste.ubuntu.com/9359943/ | 01:03 |
| Safiyyah2 | it finished | 01:03 |
| Safiyyah2 | took it a minute | 01:03 |
| daftykins | 858 seconds! | 01:04 |
| Safiyyah2 | lol | 01:04 |
| daftykins | that's one slow flash drive | 01:04 |
| Safiyyah2 | well it can be dedicated to the job | 01:04 |
| Safiyyah2 | and I won't miss it | 01:04 |
| Safiyyah2 | right do we check the data first with char1sum or that's it? | 01:05 |
| Safiyyah2 | Atleast we now have a USB | 01:05 |
| daftykins | just try booting it | 01:06 |
| Safiyyah2 | cool | 01:06 |
| daftykins | and get that nasty CD/DVD out :> | 01:06 |
| Safiyyah2 | lol | 01:06 |
| Safiyyah2 | yes sir!!!! | 01:06 |
| safiyyah2 | daftykins: am back | 01:12 |
| safiyyah2 | my that loaded FAST! | 01:12 |
| daftykins | D: | 01:12 |
| daftykins | yesh, CD/DVD are just not even options to me nowadays ;) life is too short | 01:13 |
| safiyyah2 | lol | 01:13 |
| safiyyah2 | point clearly understood now!!!!! will always have a USB now | 01:13 |
| safiyyah2 | right what now | 01:13 |
| safiyyah2 | dmesg |tail? | 01:14 |
| safiyyah2 | fdisk -l? | 01:14 |
| daftykins | well now we have a real version | 01:15 |
| daftykins | "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit" | 01:15 |
| daftykins | oh and smartmontools | 01:15 |
| daftykins | "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit smartmontools" | 01:15 |
| safiyyah2 | http://paste.ubuntu.com/9360080/ | 01:15 |
| safiyyah2 | done! | 01:16 |
| safiyyah2 | It's like a different machine!!! | 01:16 |
| safiyyah2 | wondering about the so called dead drive now | 01:16 |
| diddledan | o_O /dev/sdc1p1 ?? | 01:17 |
| daftykins | yeah i don't even | 01:17 |
| daftykins | safiyyah2: "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt" | 01:18 |
| diddledan | did you dd to sdc1 instead of sdc? | 01:18 |
| daftykins | wouldn't have booted if that were true | 01:18 |
| diddledan | how else would sdc1 contain a partition table? | 01:19 |
| safiyyah2 | wasn't sdc1 the external drive? | 01:20 |
| safiyyah2 | daftykins: the terminal is working on that last command | 01:21 |
| daftykins | o0 | 01:21 |
| safiyyah2 | lol | 01:21 |
| diddledan | sdc1 is a partition on sdc. sdc is the external drive. | 01:21 |
| safiyyah2 | http://paste.ubuntu.com/9360123/ | 01:22 |
| safiyyah2 | Same story though | 01:22 |
| daftykins | less errors though | 01:22 |
| daftykins | that's a different output | 01:22 |
| diddledan | try fsck | 01:22 |
| safiyyah2 | diddledan: am a novice | 01:23 |
| safiyyah2 | need the whole command | 01:23 |
| safiyyah2 | and am tired. brain isnt at its best | 01:23 |
| diddledan | fsck /dev/sda1 | 01:23 |
| daftykins | ^ | 01:24 |
| safiyyah2 | http://paste.ubuntu.com/9360151/ | 01:25 |
| safiyyah2 | I have gone to the bathroom for a few | 01:26 |
| daftykins | still a very unhappy disk | 01:27 |
| daftykins | diddledan: i don't even think attempting to pick a backup superblock is worth the hassle? | 01:27 |
| diddledan | nah, I've never had much luck with doing that anyway | 01:27 |
| daftykins | ah i got someone going again with one once in #ubuntu | 01:28 |
| daftykins | but then this thing only holds her OS + installed software, so might as well nuke it really | 01:28 |
| daftykins | doesn't resolve what made it go wonky mind | 01:28 |
| safiyyah2 | okay am back | 01:29 |
| safiyyah2 | is it possible there is nothing wrong with my other SSD? | 01:29 |
| safiyyah2 | just an unhappy arrangement? | 01:29 |
| safiyyah2 | and are you satisfied it's not the board? | 01:30 |
| daftykins | well you don't have anything else to test with | 01:30 |
| daftykins | we've been flying blind since the beginning | 01:30 |
| safiyyah2 | but according t the messages doesn't it mean the Corsair is also dead? | 01:31 |
| daftykins | think of it like two people talking | 01:32 |
| daftykins | one of them has just had a stroke, we're trying to have a conversation | 01:32 |
| safiyyah2 | so who has had the stroke | 01:32 |
| daftykins | how do we know which one has had the stroke? communication's still failing and that's our only point of reference | 01:32 |
| daftykins | lol | 01:32 |
| daftykins | WE CANT FIND OUT | 01:32 |
| safiyyah2 | the Corsair or the SanDisk? | 01:32 |
| daftykins | because you only have one PC :P | 01:32 |
| safiyyah2 | lol | 01:33 |
| diddledan | daftykins, ask the other guy what you would say was the way to certain death | 01:33 |
| diddledan | or is that a different riddle? | 01:33 |
| safiyyah2 | why can't we replug the SanDisk and rerun the live USB? | 01:33 |
| daftykins | ;] | 01:33 |
| daftykins | what would be the point? | 01:33 |
| daftykins | there's only static data on that, not gonna find anything new out | 01:34 |
| safiyyah2 | ah | 01:34 |
| safiyyah2 | so now. Do I do a fresh install on the corsair? | 01:34 |
| safiyyah2 | Or give up and buy a new SSD? | 01:34 |
| daftykins | yep could try a clean install, see if it will function | 01:35 |
| daftykins | that would be the very quickest approach | 01:35 |
| safiyyah2 | yes but then die again | 01:35 |
| safiyyah2 | in a few weeks | 01:35 |
| daftykins | maybe, but you have no other option | 01:35 |
| safiyyah2 | until the new disk arrives? | 01:36 |
| daftykins | no you have no other option at all | 01:36 |
| safiyyah2 | there is a third option..... just buy a new drive again | 01:36 |
| daftykins | since we can't know where the fault is without trying both those SSDs in another system | 01:36 |
| daftykins | nah that'd be foolish | 01:36 |
| safiyyah2 | respectfully, I feel like this method makes me a sitting duck | 01:37 |
| safiyyah2 | new SSD feels like I am taking my chances | 01:37 |
| daftykins | and it could still be a faulty motherboard so you'd be however much £ in the hole with no solution | 01:38 |
| safiyyah2 | So basically just get the system going again and wait? | 01:38 |
| daftykins | yeah, run the install on the existing SSD right now | 01:38 |
| daftykins | see if it functions | 01:38 |
| daftykins | maybe it'll not even install without spamming errors | 01:39 |
| safiyyah2 | I think the install will go through | 01:39 |
| diddledan | don't think, do | 01:39 |
| safiyyah2 | okay, I will do that | 01:39 |
| safiyyah2 | lol | 01:39 |
| safiyyah2 | am still on the and chat on the phone | 01:39 |
| safiyyah2 | closing this to insall | 01:40 |
| Safiyyah | Daftykins it say input out error on /dev/sda | 01:48 |
| daftykins | mmmhmm | 01:49 |
| Safiyyah | This is in the bit where you set the time zone | 01:49 |
| daftykins | i'd imagine "dmesg | tail" shows the kernel is screaming again | 01:49 |
| Safiyyah | Shall I run it? | 01:50 |
| daftykins | yarr | 01:50 |
| safiyyah2 | http://paste.ubuntu.com/9360367/ | 01:53 |
| safiyyah2 | daftykins: | 01:54 |
| daftykins | yep i'm lookin' | 01:54 |
| daftykins | is the install actually getting any further? | 01:54 |
| safiyyah2 | it asked me if i want to ignore or continue | 01:55 |
| safiyyah2 | left it like that | 01:56 |
| daftykins | hrmm | 01:56 |
| daftykins | ok so it's kinda paused | 01:56 |
| safiyyah2 | yep | 01:56 |
| daftykins | i'd install smartmontools and try a "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit" | 01:56 |
| safiyyah2 | http://paste.ubuntu.com/9360457/ | 01:56 |
| safiyyah2 | daftykins: this is mind boggling | 01:57 |
| daftykins | heh 600PB thing again | 01:58 |
| safiyyah2 | lol | 01:58 |
| safiyyah2 | so is it possible that this old drive is the fauty one.... not the new one? | 02:00 |
| daftykins | yeah these disks really need testing on another machine to know which end is at fault | 02:00 |
| daftykins | your machine obviously doesn't want anything to do with them anymore | 02:00 |
| safiyyah2 | well right now only the 60gb corsair is in | 02:01 |
| safiyyah2 | lol | 02:01 |
| daftykins | you can swap, pull out your external too | 02:01 |
| daftykins | boot the flash drive with just the sandisk | 02:01 |
| safiyyah2 | its a divorce | 02:01 |
| safiyyah2 | okay brb | 02:01 |
| intrbiz | what is the machine? what SATA controller? | 02:01 |
| daftykins | old LGA775 board likely so maybe a P35 chipset or similar | 02:02 |
| safiyyah2 | a back!!! | 02:08 |
| daftykins | D: | 02:09 |
| safiyyah2 | http://paste.ubuntu.com/9360602/ | 02:10 |
| safiyyah2 | daftykins: I still can't get over how quick it is | 02:10 |
| daftykins | sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit smartmontools | 02:10 |
| daftykins | sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit | 02:10 |
| safiyyah2 | http://paste.ubuntu.com/9360630/ | 02:11 |
| daftykins | well well, that one seems to be playing ball | 02:11 |
| daftykins | so maybe it was the Corsair all along | 02:11 |
| safiyyah2 | wow!!!! | 02:12 |
| safiyyah2 | Oh wow!!!! | 02:12 |
| daftykins | so you could backup properly now | 02:13 |
| daftykins | the whole lot | 02:13 |
| daftykins | or clean install to the sandisk | 02:13 |
| safiyyah2 | please dont laugh at my question, but remember HDD has jumpers. so you set one slave am wondering if they both thought they were master? | 02:14 |
| daftykins | no such thing with SATA | 02:14 |
| daftykins | one device per cable, no such confusion :) | 02:14 |
| safiyyah2 | okay | 02:14 |
| safiyyah2 | well my home drive is in there if I can back it up in it's entirity am good | 02:15 |
| safiyyah2 | I was avoiding a clean install because I had all the apps I wanted for the kids | 02:15 |
| safiyyah2 | can't remember half of them now | 02:15 |
| safiyyah2 | and the damned printer | 02:15 |
| daftykins | mmhmm | 02:15 |
| safiyyah2 | never mind will just start again | 02:15 |
| daftykins | and the fun with X | 02:15 |
| safiyyah2 | yes | 02:15 |
| safiyyah2 | I had JUST JUST right | 02:16 |
| daftykins | meh, shit happens :P | 02:16 |
| safiyyah2 | lol | 02:16 |
| daftykins | or the version i quite like, life happens | 02:16 |
| safiyyah2 | okay so I had the idea that having a seperate home drive was best | 02:16 |
| safiyyah2 | that blew up in my face | 02:16 |
| safiyyah2 | is there any point buying a new, root drive? | 02:17 |
| daftykins | it's always better having multiple disks | 02:17 |
| safiyyah2 | shouldn't I just partition the one drive and be over it? | 02:17 |
| daftykins | i wouldn't have gone pure SSD though personally | 02:17 |
| safiyyah2 | even after this bad experience? | 02:18 |
| daftykins | your failure has had nothing to do with how many disks you have | 02:18 |
| daftykins | :) | 02:18 |
| daftykins | but let's not think too far ahead... you still need to confirm whether this one is going to operate ok | 02:18 |
| safiyyah2 | lol my HDD died 2 years ago... could only afford a 60GB SSD and then now I wanted more space so got another SSD | 02:18 |
| safiyyah2 | happened unintentionally | 02:18 |
| daftykins | you could've had 2TB mechanical for £60 | 02:19 |
| daftykins | :> | 02:19 |
| daftykins | sooo.... backup or install? | 02:19 |
| daftykins | also it's gone 2am :D | 02:19 |
| safiyyah2 | someone on herewas banging on about stability of SSD | 02:19 |
| daftykins | well you bought some pretty shit brands :P | 02:19 |
| safiyyah2 | lol | 02:19 |
| safiyyah2 | SanDisk is shit? | 02:19 |
| daftykins | only SSDs i've seen from them have been terrible slow performers | 02:20 |
| safiyyah2 | lol | 02:20 |
| safiyyah2 | well you know I have amazon prime | 02:20 |
| safiyyah2 | and I dont really need a whole TB | 02:21 |
| safiyyah2 | I can order and it will be here tomorrow | 02:21 |
| m0nkey_ | i got some cheap ass sandisk, performance is good on it | 02:22 |
| daftykins | well, you know how useful one example is? ;) | 02:22 |
| safiyyah2 | okay do I get a second drive or not? | 02:22 |
| daftykins | so i take it you're not wanting to install to this sandisk? :P | 02:23 |
| safiyyah2 | i dont mind | 02:23 |
| safiyyah2 | just wondering if I am buying a drive or not | 02:23 |
| daftykins | not until you know if this one will play along | 02:23 |
| safiyyah2 | and also, I need the firefox bookmarks as well before we wipe it | 02:23 |
| safiyyah2 | I forgot that yesterday | 02:23 |
| safiyyah2 | also, do I set a /home partion or leave it to run as default? | 02:24 |
| daftykins | lets see if it'll mount | 02:24 |
| daftykins | "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt" | 02:25 |
| safiyyah2 | yes it's mounted | 02:25 |
| daftykins | so you could copy the whole lot onto your external | 02:25 |
| safiyyah2 | dont need the whole 170gb of data | 02:26 |
| safiyyah2 | I already backed up a month ago | 02:26 |
| daftykins | ah | 02:26 |
| safiyyah2 | I already took the files I needed | 02:26 |
| daftykins | so just bookmarks then? | 02:26 |
| safiyyah2 | yes please | 02:26 |
| daftykins | i don't have a clue where those are stored | 02:27 |
| daftykins | maybe .config/mozilla/ | 02:27 |
| daftykins | total guess | 02:27 |
| safiyyah2 | in the hidden folder in /home | 02:27 |
| daftykins | yeah there are multiple places these days though | 02:27 |
| safiyyah2 | hmmm | 02:27 |
| daftykins | /home/.mozilla might be one | 02:28 |
| safiyyah2 | I need a superuser nautilus or nemo | 02:29 |
| daftykins | must you do things GUI ;_; | 02:29 |
| daftykins | ho-hum :P | 02:29 |
| safiyyah2 | lol | 02:30 |
| safiyyah2 | well its the quickest way to locate the actual file | 02:30 |
| daftykins | for some perhaps :> | 02:30 |
| daftykins | well, whichever method works | 02:30 |
| daftykins | i think xubuntu gives a run dialogue with alt+F2? might have to install gksu though | 02:30 |
| safiyyah2 | i installed gksu | 02:31 |
| safiyyah2 | but I think there is no nautilus? | 02:31 |
| daftykins | nah i think it's thunar on xu | 02:31 |
| safiyyah2 | :) | 02:31 |
| safiyyah2 | I dont know why I was thinking it was nemo | 02:32 |
| daftykins | i think that's an alternative | 02:32 |
| safiyyah2 | Okay I got them | 02:34 |
| safiyyah2 | am ready! | 02:34 |
| safiyyah2 | so am I making a /home partition | 02:34 |
| safiyyah2 | The OS needs only about 15gb right? | 02:34 |
| daftykins | can do, yeah... or you could install all as one, then if it works... when you buy another disk you can just move your /home onto there | 02:35 |
| safiyyah2 | are you saying you can't move your /home if you partition the drive? | 02:36 |
| daftykins | you could, but then you'd have to mess around with resizing / to get it to fill that disk again | 02:36 |
| daftykins | basically, i'm saying install the OS to test if it works | 02:37 |
| daftykins | so there's no point planning for forever, right now | 02:37 |
| safiyyah2 | okay | 02:37 |
| safiyyah2 | thanks for pointing that out | 02:37 |
| daftykins | ;) | 02:37 |
| safiyyah2 | getting on with the install | 02:37 |
| safiyyah2 | back on the phone | 02:37 |
| daftykins | is it done yet!? | 02:50 |
| * daftykins nudges Safiyyah | 02:59 | |
| Safiyyah | No | 02:59 |
| daftykins | whaaaaat | 03:00 |
| daftykins | USB to SSD installs are meant to be lightning quick :> | 03:00 |
| Safiyyah | It is about 90‰ according to the strip that goes across | 03:00 |
| Safiyyah | Remember you said it was shit and slow maybe it heard you hehe | 03:01 |
| daftykins | 8D | 03:01 |
| Safiyyah | It is still quicker than. The standard Ubuntu | 03:03 |
| Safiyyah | That took me ages | 03:03 |
| Safiyyah | And then it was bloated. That's why I switched to Xubuntu | 03:03 |
| daftykins | it is a bit | 03:04 |
| daftykins | but you are using a fairly old machine too :> | 03:04 |
| Safiyyah2 | daftykins all done | 03:07 |
| Safiyyah2 | and am in it now. all booted up | 03:07 |
| Safiyyah2 | Installing updates | 03:08 |
| daftykins | yay | 03:09 |
| Safiyyah | Is there a next step.... Other than actually setting the system up... | 03:09 |
| Safiyyah | We can't dmesg it now can we? | 03:10 |
| daftykins | nah just watch dmesg | tail whilst installing updates, could be useful | 03:10 |
| Safiyyah | Okay just leave it running on the terminal | 03:10 |
| Safiyyah | ? | 03:10 |
| daftykins | nah it's a one time command | 03:10 |
| Safiyyah2 | Where is the pipe key on the UK keyboard? | 03:12 |
| Safiyyah2 | I have a multi-lingual keyboard | 03:12 |
| Safiyyah2 | and I always set it to UK but that means some keys don't follow | 03:12 |
| daftykins | left shift and the \ beside it | 03:13 |
| daftykins | ||| | 03:13 |
| Safiyyah2 | nope nothing there | 03:14 |
| Safiyyah2 | Unless I leave it as US | 03:14 |
| Safiyyah2 | but then there won't be a £ sign | 03:14 |
| Safiyyah2 | 40% of update done | 03:15 |
| Safiyyah2_ | http://paste.ubuntu.com/9361314/ | 03:25 |
| Safiyyah2_ | daftykins: output of dmesg | 03:25 |
| daftykins | ah usual wrong screen res fun | 03:27 |
| daftykins | nothing much going on yep | 03:27 |
| Safiyyah2_ | will sort out the resolution tomorrow | 03:28 |
| Safiyyah2_ | am knackered | 03:29 |
| Safiyyah2_ | it seems happy? | 03:29 |
| daftykins | could well be | 03:29 |
| Safiyyah2_ | you are good at avoiding difinitive answers | 03:29 |
| daftykins | so time to return the corsair instead and maybe get something else | 03:29 |
| daftykins | so is your system | 03:30 |
| Safiyyah2_ | lol Corsair two years old | 03:30 |
| Safiyyah2_ | i think it's past warranty | 03:30 |
| Safiyyah2_ | I will keep my money thanks | 03:31 |
| daftykins | wouldn't hurt to check | 03:31 |
| Safiyyah2_ | lol | 03:31 |
| Safiyyah2_ | will check with them. | 03:31 |
| daftykins | might just need a serial number from it put into their website | 03:31 |
| Safiyyah2_ | am so. so . sooooooo grateful | 03:31 |
| Safiyyah2_ | thank you so much | 03:32 |
| Safiyyah2_ | atleast it's working again | 03:32 |
| Safiyyah2_ | will sort the rest out in order of urgency | 03:32 |
| Safiyyah2_ | lol | 03:32 |
| Safiyyah2_ | so there is nothing wrong with my Sandisk drive? | 03:32 |
| daftykins | based on what has been done so far, it has been working | 03:33 |
| daftykins | but life isn't this black and white | 03:33 |
| Safiyyah2_ | so cancel the return? | 03:34 |
| daftykins | for the time being, yep | 03:34 |
| Safiyyah2_ | cool | 03:34 |
| daftykins | but it doesn't mean it's perfect | 03:34 |
| daftykins | you're after concrete answers which really don't happen in the hardware world | 03:34 |
| Safiyyah2_ | off to bed. Still have to get up for the school run tomorrow and work | 03:34 |
| Safiyyah2_ | I just want to know that as far as things stand, it's all sorted | 03:35 |
| Safiyyah2_ | if it breaks again that's another issue | 03:35 |
| Safiyyah2_ | but as of now, is it healthy? | 03:35 |
| daftykins | heh | 03:36 |
| daftykins | i don't want to comment any further, you're after things i can't provide | 03:36 |
| daftykins | just see how it goes | 03:37 |
| Safiyyah2_ | lol | 03:37 |
| Safiyyah2_ | you should be a politician | 03:37 |
| Safiyyah2_ | lol | 03:37 |
| Safiyyah2_ | night night | 03:37 |
| === zmoylan-1i is now known as zmoylan-pi | ||
| mapps | seesh | 07:03 |
| mapps | dont think i can save everyone | 07:03 |
| mapps | met a girl tonight thats got as many problems as me | 07:04 |
| mapps | but a way worse job and no money | 07:04 |
| * mapps cant help himself ....how can i help anyone else | 07:04 | |
| zmoylan-pi | you're forgetting callahans law. shared pain lessens shared joy increases | 07:53 |
| === Guest44253 is now known as MooDoo | ||
| MooDoo | morning all | 07:59 |
| diplo | Morning all | 08:06 |
| MooDoo | howdy dipli | 08:09 |
| MooDoo | doh too early | 08:09 |
| diplo | hah | 08:15 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| JamesTait | Good morning all; happy Cookie Day! :-D | 09:35 |
| * davmor2 eats all the Cookies now it is happy belly day :) | 09:37 | |
| JamesTait | davmor2, World Wildlife Conservation Day? You're wild life, aren't you? :-P | 09:41 |
| * zmoylan-pi swings across channel on handy vine | 09:42 | |
| davmor2 | JamesTait: I already Fund people looking after tigers and reintegrating them into the wild :) | 09:51 |
| JamesTait | I just look after mini tigers. ;) | 09:51 |
| davmor2 | JamesTait: https://plus.google.com/photos?pid=5479982879927839602&oid=104244164525559506101 | 10:02 |
| popey | rwar! | 10:02 |
| JamesTait | davmor2, I think I recognise him! | 10:05 |
| davmor2 | JamesTait: been to India Recently? | 10:06 |
| JamesTait | davmor2, ah, no - must have been his South African cousin. | 10:07 |
| davmor2 | JamesTait: Africa is Lion you muppet ;) | 10:08 |
| JamesTait | davmor2, this is not a lion: https://www.flickr.com/photos/jamestait0/15918390796/ | 10:12 |
| JamesTait | davmor2, this is a lion (and a lioness): https://www.flickr.com/photos/jamestait0/15321948254/ | 10:14 |
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 10:34 |
| davmor2 | JamesTait: first one is a lion in stripy pyjamas you can't blag my head ;) | 10:35 |
| JamesTait | davmor2, heheh. :) Stripey pyjama cat? | 10:35 |
| JamesTait | brobostigon, o/ | 10:35 |
| brobostigon | moring JamesTait | 10:36 |
| davmor2 | JamesTait: Straight from the mouth of a meerkat so it must true right? | 10:37 |
| kaushal | Hi | 10:57 |
| kaushal | is there a way to know the port number from process id? | 10:57 |
| diplo | I think you can get that via netstat | 10:59 |
| diplo | -p | grep the PID ? | 10:59 |
| kaushal | ok | 11:01 |
| kaushal | diplo: -p says program name as per man ps | 11:06 |
| kaushal | diplo: please correct me if i am wrong in interpreting it | 11:06 |
| kaushal | I did netstat -p | grep 22422 | 11:06 |
| diplo | Says in man that it shows the Program name and the PID | 11:07 |
| kaushal | udp 0 0 localhost.localdomain:42599 localhost.localdomain:42599 ESTABLISHED 22422/postmaster | 11:07 |
| kaushal | diplo: i am interested to know the port number | 11:07 |
| bigcalm | Good morning peeps :) | 11:07 |
| diplo | I'm not a great netstat user but looks like netstat -apt | grep PID ? | 11:09 |
| xplora1a | add a -n to the netstat for faster responce | 11:09 |
| diplo | Worked here kaushal | 11:10 |
| kaushal | ok | 11:12 |
| kaushal | xplora1a: is it nestat -aptn | grep PID? | 11:12 |
| kaushal | i mean netstat* | 11:13 |
| kaushal | netstat -aptn | grep PID? | 11:13 |
| xplora1a | yes, the -n stops netstat doing a revers dns on every IP address | 11:13 |
| kaushal | xplora1a: ok | 11:13 |
| kaushal | what dos -a -p and -t options for? | 11:14 |
| kaushal | is -t meant for tcp? | 11:14 |
| xplora1a | -p is the PID/program name -t TCP only | 11:15 |
| kaushal | ok | 11:15 |
| kaushal | xplora1a: Thanks | 11:15 |
| kaushal | diplo: thanks | 11:16 |
| xplora1a | cah | 11:16 |
| kaushal | xplora1a: if i do netstat -aptn | grep 22761 | 11:18 |
| kaushal | i get http://paste.ubuntu.com/9365914/ | 11:18 |
| xplora1a | -a, --all | 11:18 |
| xplora1a | Show both listening and non-listening sockets. With the --interfaces | 11:18 |
| xplora1a | option, show interfaces that are not up | 11:18 |
| kaushal | what does :::1103 and :::* mean | 11:18 |
| kaushal | can i get the field header name? | 11:18 |
| kaushal | for tcp 0 0 :::1103 :::* LISTEN 22761/java | 11:19 |
| xplora1a | those are listern ports so anything can connect to those ports. but if there werer established connections to those ports they would be seperatly listed | 11:20 |
| kaushal | xplora1a: ok | 11:20 |
| xplora1a | :::1103 is an IPv6 address | 11:21 |
| kaushal | ok | 11:21 |
| kaushal | xplora1a: one last question | 11:21 |
| xplora1a | ok | 11:21 |
| kaushal | how do i include header meaning column name | 11:22 |
| kaushal | in netstat -aptn | grep PID | 11:22 |
| xplora1a | not sure, have a look through man netstat | 11:22 |
| kaushal | ok | 11:22 |
| kaushal | netstat -an | head gives me the desired output | 11:25 |
| kaushal | but when i do netstat -an | head | grep 22761 | 11:25 |
| kaushal | it returns nothing | 11:25 |
| kaushal | I know i am doing something wrong | 11:25 |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch | ||
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| * popey boggles that this thing has hit 12KUSD https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-ubutab-a-1tb-ubuntu-tablet-for-media-lovers | 13:36 | |
| bigcalm | popey: worth while? | 13:44 |
| ali1234 | well the really odd thing about that is they only want 36k | 13:44 |
| popey | yeah, can't see how it's viable | 13:44 |
| ali1234 | that doesn't seem like enough for a production run, unless it's basically an existing tablet | 13:44 |
| diddledan | morning | 13:45 |
| bigcalm | Spinning rust in a tablet, wonder how long that will last | 13:45 |
| popey | like spinning rust in a laptop? | 13:46 |
| ali1234 | not really. nobody actually uses a laptop on their lap | 13:46 |
| popey | nobody uses a tablet on their lap either :D | 13:46 |
| ali1234 | yeah they hold it constantly | 13:46 |
| bigcalm | popey: I think that a tablet might be treated with a little less care than a laptop | 13:46 |
| ali1234 | which means lots of shaking | 13:46 |
| popey | sure ㋛ | 13:47 |
| ali1234 | and laptop hard drives tend to die already | 13:47 |
| diddledan | I think it's on indiegogo rather than kickstarter because kickstarter would require proven prototypes before listing it | 13:50 |
| diddledan | indiegogo doesn't vet things so thoroughly | 13:50 |
| ali1234 | they also require it's not just some existing peice of hardware that you are reselling | 13:50 |
| diddledan | good point | 13:51 |
| ali1234 | anyway, i'd rather have a 256GB SSD in such a tablet. would be about the same price. | 13:51 |
| popey | wonder if anyone will ever get their device | 13:51 |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| diddledan | they must be reselling someone else's hardware to be able to deliver by their anticipated April deadline | 13:53 |
| m0nkey_ | If it looks too good to be true, it probably is. | 13:53 |
| === bashrc_ is now known as bashrc | ||
| m0nkey_ | Nice concept, but would need to see a working model. | 13:53 |
| ali1234 | the "hardware partner" is named on the comments page | 13:54 |
| ali1234 | i like this comment: "Would much rather have a tablet running Ubuntu, so much more available as far as programs for the work I do." | 13:54 |
| ali1234 | people still think convergence means "can run desktop software on phones" | 13:55 |
| ali1234 | rather than "can run phone apps on the desktop" | 13:55 |
| === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g | ||
| awilkins | ARRGH another one of those websites that locks up my WHOLE BROWSER | 14:49 |
| awilkins | http://t.co/rqISLVSza3 << anyone else want to test? | 14:50 |
| awilkins | Makes Firefox grey out | 14:50 |
| awilkins | (mildly NSFW as it has a picture of a lady with lasers aimed at her groinal area) | 14:50 |
| diddledan | awilkins, love the picture | 14:50 |
| daftykins | maybe it's best you don't see it ;) | 14:51 |
| diddledan | now I'm wondering what made awilkins search for vaginal atrophy | 14:52 |
| awilkins | It was in my twitter feed | 14:52 |
| diddledan | lol | 14:52 |
| diddledan | yey for the twits | 14:52 |
| davmor2 | awilkins: again why did you look? | 14:53 |
| awilkins | Tweet was : Career milestone achieved: [X] Write up a news story that demands a header image of lasers shooting out of a vagina. | 14:53 |
| davmor2 | awilkins: and again you thought that's something I need to view ;) | 14:54 |
| daftykins | XD | 14:54 |
| awilkins | Shared it because of the annoying browser lockup thing | 14:54 |
| awilkins | Keeps happening to me recently, convinced it's to do with some of these evil clickbait things | 14:55 |
| diddledan | works fine in chromeland | 14:55 |
| diddledan | so the new 007/bond movie is to be called "spectre" | 14:56 |
| davmor2 | awilkins: works fine but slowly in firefox. It is really slow to scroll though | 14:56 |
| awilkins | Yeah, the slow scrolling is a symptom too | 14:56 |
| daftykins | i like the progress bar shading in the bit on the right as you read through | 14:58 |
| foobarry | fire at hermes | 16:14 |
| foobarry | also, who has done RHCSA or RHCE lately? | 16:15 |
| === luke is now known as Guest94307 | ||
| diddledan | foobarry, where's hermes? | 16:42 |
| diddledan | aah it's an american parcel co? | 16:43 |
| foobarry | Yesterday evening, Wednesday 3rd December we experienced a fire at our key hub in Warrington, causing significant damage to our main sorter. We would like to assure you that no one was injured in the fire an | 16:43 |
| foobarry | "no parcels have been damaged." | 16:43 |
| foobarry | With immediate effect we have activated a new central hub at Bradford to process extra volumes and are evaluating other potential sites today to provide additional support. | 16:43 |
| diddledan | aah, warrington, not washington >.< | 16:43 |
| diddledan | lol | 16:43 |
| mapps | well that was stinky | 17:01 |
| mapps | 2 iphone charging cables | 17:01 |
| mapps | bought them off amazon unofficial few quid each | 17:02 |
| mapps | neither work..used them once | 17:02 |
| foobarry | blew up your house? | 17:02 |
| mapps | nah | 17:02 |
| mapps | just nothing happens when i plug phone in to them | 17:02 |
| daftykins | mapps: lightning? | 17:03 |
| mapps | ya | 17:03 |
| daftykins | mmm you can't really go cheap on those :( | 17:03 |
| mapps | why? | 17:04 |
| Myrtti | they're either licensed or they don't work | 17:04 |
| foobarry | heh | 17:04 |
| Myrtti | and the license cost | 17:04 |
| Myrtti | s | 17:04 |
| mapps | they worked at first tho | 17:04 |
| foobarry | lightning never strikes twice | 17:04 |
| foobarry | or always... | 17:04 |
| foobarry | i never remember | 17:04 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| diddledan | mapps, they're required to have a chip in them and the iphone will kill any that are using a dodgy or no license | 17:06 |
| diddledan | IIRC | 17:06 |
| diddledan | and IANAL | 17:06 |
| daftykins | that's a really unfortunate acronym | 17:07 |
| diddledan | daftykins, for you maybe ;-) | 17:07 |
| diddledan | teehee | 17:08 |
| daftykins | diddledan: i thought that assistance would never end last night ;) | 17:26 |
| diddledan | heh, I went to bed | 17:26 |
| daftykins | she was demanding i state whether it was working or not, solely from one install and dmesg staying relatively quiet | 17:27 |
| daftykins | i think i need a Scottie reference here somewhere | 17:28 |
| diddledan | :-) | 17:28 |
| diddledan | scottie ftw | 17:28 |
| diddledan | "I've given you all I've got" | 17:29 |
| daftykins | i liked a cartoon parody i saw the other day | 17:29 |
| daftykins | constant interruptions to Kirk over the radio, Scottie saying "uuuh, you're not gonnae believe this cap'n, but whenever i say i'm giving it all she's got... i've only just seen the lever goes another 1/3rd up - so i literally CAN make us go faster" | 17:30 |
| daftykins | "given most of the drama we're in could be evaded by going just a little bit faster, i'd like to apologies Cap'n for putting us in harms way so often" | 17:30 |
| diddledan | it's the rocker's method of going "1 faster" | 17:31 |
| * popey points everyone at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-uk/2014-December/038109.html | 18:21 | |
| * popey hopes some people reply at some point ☻ | 18:21 | |
| daftykins | a support event could be fun! | 18:22 |
| diddledan | hmm, do I need chocolate or not? | 18:24 |
| diddledan | it does sound like a good idea | 18:24 |
| diddledan | got 30 minutes before the shop closes | 18:24 |
| daftykins | you ALWAYS need chocolate, diddledan | 18:25 |
| diddledan | yeah, that's what I was thinking | 18:25 |
| daftykins | i polished off a galaxy bar of ~112g last night to recover from support giving | 18:25 |
| diddledan | :-) | 18:25 |
| diddledan | brb. shop time. | 18:25 |
| === alan_g_ is now known as alan_g|EOD | ||
| daftykins | i like the message from the chap about old PCs, Pentium D his daily driver? poor chap | 18:33 |
| * diddledan sent a commandline love command to uupc \o/ | 19:09 | |
| popey | I think we've done that one | 19:10 |
| diddledan | awww | 19:10 |
| popey | hmm, maybe not | 19:13 |
| popey | just went back through many | 19:13 |
| diddledan | ok, I want a 3d printer now: http://www.geek.com/geek-cetera/you-can-3d-print-your-very-own-moving-stargate-1610922/ | 20:34 |
| daftykins | surely you mean the temporary use of one, forget ownership ;) | 20:46 |
| zmoylan-pi | once you have access to one and know the formula for stargate addresses.... | 20:47 |
| shauno | gotta admit that's one thing I don't see the appeal of | 20:49 |
| daftykins | shauno: 3D printers in general? | 20:49 |
| shauno | from the few people I've talked to who have one, it seems half the fun is getting it working. and the other half is fixing it | 20:49 |
| diddledan | shauno, a stargate or a 3d printer? | 20:49 |
| daftykins | yeah definitely | 20:49 |
| daftykins | remember those HP TouchPad tablets? i'm wiping mine ahead of popping it on ebay | 20:50 |
| daftykins | just had to interact with good ol' WebOS briefly, what a classic :D | 20:51 |
| diddledan | eep | 20:55 |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| diddledan | I made a noise that shouldn't come out of a beardy hippy bloke: http://www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi2621615897/ | 21:01 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| dogmatic69 | anyone know of a mouse button 'debounce' setting? | 21:15 |
| dogmatic69 | 1/2 of clicks are now double clicks some how | 21:16 |
| intrbiz | if your using KDE, you can set the double click interval | 21:17 |
| daftykins | tried another mouse? | 21:17 |
| dogmatic69 | just boring old 14.something | 21:17 |
| dogmatic69 | unity I guess | 21:17 |
| daftykins | plug something else in just to be sure, had someone with a mouse that'd given up on life the other day | 21:20 |
| dogmatic69 | it is well used, probably 6 years old... | 21:20 |
| dogmatic69 | with around 2 years of MC | 21:21 |
| daftykins | 2 years in a motorcycle club, that's a fine mouse | 21:22 |
| dogmatic69 | lol | 21:22 |
| dogmatic69 | mine craft... | 21:22 |
| daftykins | aaaaaaah | 21:23 |
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