[00:00] pangolin [00:00] ah ok [00:01] should be a graphical way you can spot your external and mount it [00:01] a pastebin of "sudo fdisk -l" to spot the flash drive will be handy too [00:04] Firefox is freezing [00:04] It's /dev/sdc1 [00:05] http://paste.ubuntu.com/9359360/ [00:05] sorry it's decided to work as long as I don't right click [00:05] (firefox I mean) [00:06] Dobt I just need the start up disk creator? [00:06] Just select the file and do it? [00:07] use dd [00:08] do? [00:08] Do? [00:08] sudo dd if=/path/to/ISO of=/dev/sdc bs=2M [00:09] yes what is the path to my external? [00:09] type "mount" and it might give some clues [00:09] or df -h [00:11] okay I can't do cd /dev/sdb1 [00:11] can I copy the files onto the desktop graphically? [00:12] http://paste.ubuntu.com/9359400/ [00:12] /media/Expansion Drive [00:12] it's already mounted [00:13] you can't copy things to the desktop 'cause the desktop has no space :D [00:14] Cd /media /Expansion Drive also doesn't work [00:15] http://paste.ubuntu.com/9359426/ [00:16] because you have spaces [00:16] that was a very bad name for a drive ;) [00:16] use tab complete [00:16] I thought ubuntu tracked upstream with firefox versions? i.e. new firefox gets bundled as an update in supported ubuntu [00:16] e.g. "cd /media/E *tab* [00:16] anyway the directory is /media/Expansion Drive/Backup 2 October 2014/Downloads/xubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64 [00:16] just curio because I have 33 and mozilla have released 34 already [00:17] daftykins, we can change the name lol [00:17] aah, I had stale apt cache [00:17] one job at a time please ;) [00:18] :) [00:22] http://paste.ubuntu.com/9359484/ [00:22] it's in Backup 2 October 2014/Downloads [00:22] same problem with the spaces but there is more than one file starting with Backup [00:24] are you not ok using tabs to complete your paths still? [00:24] lol [00:24] yep [00:24] not okay [00:24] am sorry [00:26] cd /media/Expansion\ Drive/Backup\ 2 *tab* [00:26] ? [00:27] when I press tab [00:27] it just re-lists the directories [00:27] http://paste.ubuntu.com/9359524/ [00:27] When I pressed tab it gave me a list [00:29] don't add a space on the end after "2" [00:29] type exactly ...."Backup\ 2[tab]" [00:29] where [tab] is the tab button [00:30] okay we are in the directory [00:31] sorry about no getting it [00:31] am in!!!! now what.... something about dd? [00:31] excuse me but it's late and I can't spell [00:33] daftykins: did you drop off to sleep at your desk [00:33] nop [00:34] i'm just gaming [00:34] sudo dd if=/path/to/ISO of=/dev/sdc bs=2M [00:34] would've been easier for you to scroll up :P [00:34] lol [00:35] brain died [00:37] ;] [00:40] terminal is still at it [00:40] or it has hang [00:40] whichever one [00:41] daftykins: here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/9359680/ [00:41] 271MB is way too tiny for an ISO [00:43] i don't think that's a complete download [00:43] the download itself is 970 something [00:43] its complete. [00:43] I char1 summed it [00:43] but the paste there says it wrote 270MB [00:43] the terminal didnt finish copying [00:44] let me rerun the command and exercise better patience [00:44] oh yes you ctrl+C'd [00:44] that's a BAD Safiyyah [00:45] yo might be able to check progress with "sudo killall -USR1 dd" in a second terminal window [01:00] daftykins: didnt meant to I was trying to copy it into paste bin for you [01:01] cos I was wasnt sure it was hanging or not [01:01] anyway it has finished again [01:01] ah i see [01:03] http://paste.ubuntu.com/9359943/ [01:03] it finished [01:03] took it a minute [01:04] 858 seconds! [01:04] lol [01:04] that's one slow flash drive [01:04] well it can be dedicated to the job [01:04] and I won't miss it [01:05] right do we check the data first with char1sum or that's it? [01:05] Atleast we now have a USB [01:06] just try booting it [01:06] cool [01:06] and get that nasty CD/DVD out :> [01:06] lol [01:06] yes sir!!!! [01:12] daftykins: am back [01:12] my that loaded FAST! [01:12] D: [01:13] yesh, CD/DVD are just not even options to me nowadays ;) life is too short [01:13] lol [01:13] point clearly understood now!!!!! will always have a USB now [01:13] right what now [01:14] dmesg |tail? [01:14] fdisk -l? [01:15] well now we have a real version [01:15] "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit" [01:15] oh and smartmontools [01:15] "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit smartmontools" [01:15] http://paste.ubuntu.com/9360080/ [01:16] done! [01:16] It's like a different machine!!! [01:16] wondering about the so called dead drive now [01:17] o_O /dev/sdc1p1 ?? [01:17] yeah i don't even [01:18] safiyyah2: "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt" [01:18] did you dd to sdc1 instead of sdc? [01:18] wouldn't have booted if that were true [01:19] how else would sdc1 contain a partition table? [01:20] wasn't sdc1 the external drive? [01:21] daftykins: the terminal is working on that last command [01:21] o0 [01:21] lol [01:21] sdc1 is a partition on sdc. sdc is the external drive. [01:22] http://paste.ubuntu.com/9360123/ [01:22] Same story though [01:22] less errors though [01:22] that's a different output [01:22] try fsck [01:23] diddledan: am a novice [01:23] need the whole command [01:23] and am tired. brain isnt at its best [01:23] fsck /dev/sda1 [01:24] ^ [01:25] http://paste.ubuntu.com/9360151/ [01:26] I have gone to the bathroom for a few [01:27] still a very unhappy disk [01:27] diddledan: i don't even think attempting to pick a backup superblock is worth the hassle? [01:27] nah, I've never had much luck with doing that anyway [01:28] ah i got someone going again with one once in #ubuntu [01:28] but then this thing only holds her OS + installed software, so might as well nuke it really [01:28] doesn't resolve what made it go wonky mind [01:29] okay am back [01:29] is it possible there is nothing wrong with my other SSD? [01:29] just an unhappy arrangement? [01:30] and are you satisfied it's not the board? [01:30] well you don't have anything else to test with [01:30] we've been flying blind since the beginning [01:31] but according t the messages doesn't it mean the Corsair is also dead? [01:32] think of it like two people talking [01:32] one of them has just had a stroke, we're trying to have a conversation [01:32] so who has had the stroke [01:32] how do we know which one has had the stroke? communication's still failing and that's our only point of reference [01:32] lol [01:32] WE CANT FIND OUT [01:32] the Corsair or the SanDisk? [01:32] because you only have one PC :P [01:33] lol [01:33] daftykins, ask the other guy what you would say was the way to certain death [01:33] or is that a different riddle? [01:33] why can't we replug the SanDisk and rerun the live USB? [01:33] ;] [01:33] what would be the point? [01:34] there's only static data on that, not gonna find anything new out [01:34] ah [01:34] so now. Do I do a fresh install on the corsair? [01:34] Or give up and buy a new SSD? [01:35] yep could try a clean install, see if it will function [01:35] that would be the very quickest approach [01:35] yes but then die again [01:35] in a few weeks [01:35] maybe, but you have no other option [01:36] until the new disk arrives? [01:36] no you have no other option at all [01:36] there is a third option..... just buy a new drive again [01:36] since we can't know where the fault is without trying both those SSDs in another system [01:36] nah that'd be foolish [01:37] respectfully, I feel like this method makes me a sitting duck [01:37] new SSD feels like I am taking my chances [01:38] and it could still be a faulty motherboard so you'd be however much £ in the hole with no solution [01:38] So basically just get the system going again and wait? [01:38] yeah, run the install on the existing SSD right now [01:38] see if it functions [01:39] maybe it'll not even install without spamming errors [01:39] I think the install will go through [01:39] don't think, do [01:39] okay, I will do that [01:39] lol [01:39] am still on the and chat on the phone [01:40] closing this to insall [01:48] Daftykins it say input out error on /dev/sda [01:49] mmmhmm [01:49] This is in the bit where you set the time zone [01:49] i'd imagine "dmesg | tail" shows the kernel is screaming again [01:50] Shall I run it? [01:50] yarr [01:53] http://paste.ubuntu.com/9360367/ [01:54] daftykins: [01:54] yep i'm lookin' [01:54] is the install actually getting any further? [01:55] it asked me if i want to ignore or continue [01:56] left it like that [01:56] hrmm [01:56] ok so it's kinda paused [01:56] yep [01:56] i'd install smartmontools and try a "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit" [01:56] http://paste.ubuntu.com/9360457/ [01:57] daftykins: this is mind boggling [01:58] heh 600PB thing again [01:58] lol [02:00] so is it possible that this old drive is the fauty one.... not the new one? [02:00] yeah these disks really need testing on another machine to know which end is at fault [02:00] your machine obviously doesn't want anything to do with them anymore [02:01] well right now only the 60gb corsair is in [02:01] lol [02:01] you can swap, pull out your external too [02:01] boot the flash drive with just the sandisk [02:01] its a divorce [02:01] okay brb [02:01] what is the machine? what SATA controller? [02:02] old LGA775 board likely so maybe a P35 chipset or similar [02:08] a back!!! [02:09] D: [02:10] http://paste.ubuntu.com/9360602/ [02:10] daftykins: I still can't get over how quick it is [02:10] sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit smartmontools [02:10] sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit [02:11] http://paste.ubuntu.com/9360630/ [02:11] well well, that one seems to be playing ball [02:11] so maybe it was the Corsair all along [02:12] wow!!!! [02:12] Oh wow!!!! [02:13] so you could backup properly now [02:13] the whole lot [02:13] or clean install to the sandisk [02:14] please dont laugh at my question, but remember HDD has jumpers. so you set one slave am wondering if they both thought they were master? [02:14] no such thing with SATA [02:14] one device per cable, no such confusion :) [02:14] okay [02:15] well my home drive is in there if I can back it up in it's entirity am good [02:15] I was avoiding a clean install because I had all the apps I wanted for the kids [02:15] can't remember half of them now [02:15] and the damned printer [02:15] mmhmm [02:15] never mind will just start again [02:15] and the fun with X [02:15] yes [02:16] I had JUST JUST right [02:16] meh, shit happens :P [02:16] lol [02:16] or the version i quite like, life happens [02:16] okay so I had the idea that having a seperate home drive was best [02:16] that blew up in my face [02:17] is there any point buying a new, root drive? [02:17] it's always better having multiple disks [02:17] shouldn't I just partition the one drive and be over it? [02:17] i wouldn't have gone pure SSD though personally [02:18] even after this bad experience? [02:18] your failure has had nothing to do with how many disks you have [02:18] :) [02:18] but let's not think too far ahead... you still need to confirm whether this one is going to operate ok [02:18] lol my HDD died 2 years ago... could only afford a 60GB SSD and then now I wanted more space so got another SSD [02:18] happened unintentionally [02:19] you could've had 2TB mechanical for £60 [02:19] :> [02:19] sooo.... backup or install? [02:19] also it's gone 2am :D [02:19] someone on herewas banging on about stability of SSD [02:19] well you bought some pretty shit brands :P [02:19] lol [02:19] SanDisk is shit? [02:20] only SSDs i've seen from them have been terrible slow performers [02:20] lol [02:20] well you know I have amazon prime [02:21] and I dont really need a whole TB [02:21] I can order and it will be here tomorrow [02:22] i got some cheap ass sandisk, performance is good on it [02:22] well, you know how useful one example is? ;) [02:22] okay do I get a second drive or not? [02:23] so i take it you're not wanting to install to this sandisk? :P [02:23] i dont mind [02:23] just wondering if I am buying a drive or not [02:23] not until you know if this one will play along [02:23] and also, I need the firefox bookmarks as well before we wipe it [02:23] I forgot that yesterday [02:24] also, do I set a /home partion or leave it to run as default? [02:24] lets see if it'll mount [02:25] "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt" [02:25] yes it's mounted [02:25] so you could copy the whole lot onto your external [02:26] dont need the whole 170gb of data [02:26] I already backed up a month ago [02:26] ah [02:26] I already took the files I needed [02:26] so just bookmarks then? [02:26] yes please [02:27] i don't have a clue where those are stored [02:27] maybe .config/mozilla/ [02:27] total guess [02:27] in the hidden folder in /home [02:27] yeah there are multiple places these days though [02:27] hmmm [02:28] /home/.mozilla might be one [02:29] I need a superuser nautilus or nemo [02:29] must you do things GUI ;_; [02:29] ho-hum :P [02:30] lol [02:30] well its the quickest way to locate the actual file [02:30] for some perhaps :> [02:30] well, whichever method works [02:30] i think xubuntu gives a run dialogue with alt+F2? might have to install gksu though [02:31] i installed gksu [02:31] but I think there is no nautilus? [02:31] nah i think it's thunar on xu [02:31] :) [02:32] I dont know why I was thinking it was nemo [02:32] i think that's an alternative [02:34] Okay I got them [02:34] am ready! [02:34] so am I making a /home partition [02:34] The OS needs only about 15gb right? [02:35] can do, yeah... or you could install all as one, then if it works... when you buy another disk you can just move your /home onto there [02:36] are you saying you can't move your /home if you partition the drive? [02:36] you could, but then you'd have to mess around with resizing / to get it to fill that disk again [02:37] basically, i'm saying install the OS to test if it works [02:37] so there's no point planning for forever, right now [02:37] okay [02:37] thanks for pointing that out [02:37] ;) [02:37] getting on with the install [02:37] back on the phone [02:50] is it done yet!? [02:59] * daftykins nudges Safiyyah [02:59] No [03:00] whaaaaat [03:00] USB to SSD installs are meant to be lightning quick :> [03:00] It is about 90‰ according to the strip that goes across [03:01] Remember you said it was shit and slow maybe it heard you hehe [03:01] 8D [03:03] It is still quicker than. The standard Ubuntu [03:03] That took me ages [03:03] And then it was bloated. That's why I switched to Xubuntu [03:04] it is a bit [03:04] but you are using a fairly old machine too :> [03:07] daftykins all done [03:07] and am in it now. all booted up [03:08] Installing updates [03:09] yay [03:09] Is there a next step.... Other than actually setting the system up... [03:10] We can't dmesg it now can we? [03:10] nah just watch dmesg | tail whilst installing updates, could be useful [03:10] Okay just leave it running on the terminal [03:10] ? [03:10] nah it's a one time command [03:12] Where is the pipe key on the UK keyboard? [03:12] I have a multi-lingual keyboard [03:12] and I always set it to UK but that means some keys don't follow [03:13] left shift and the \ beside it [03:13] ||| [03:14] nope nothing there [03:14] Unless I leave it as US [03:14] but then there won't be a £ sign [03:15] 40% of update done [03:25] http://paste.ubuntu.com/9361314/ [03:25] daftykins: output of dmesg [03:27] ah usual wrong screen res fun [03:27] nothing much going on yep [03:28] will sort out the resolution tomorrow [03:29] am knackered [03:29] it seems happy? [03:29] could well be [03:29] you are good at avoiding difinitive answers [03:29] so time to return the corsair instead and maybe get something else [03:30] so is your system [03:30] lol Corsair two years old [03:30] i think it's past warranty [03:31] I will keep my money thanks [03:31] wouldn't hurt to check [03:31] lol [03:31] will check with them. [03:31] might just need a serial number from it put into their website [03:31] am so. so . sooooooo grateful [03:32] thank you so much [03:32] atleast it's working again [03:32] will sort the rest out in order of urgency [03:32] lol [03:32] so there is nothing wrong with my Sandisk drive? [03:33] based on what has been done so far, it has been working [03:33] but life isn't this black and white [03:34] so cancel the return? [03:34] for the time being, yep [03:34] cool [03:34] but it doesn't mean it's perfect [03:34] you're after concrete answers which really don't happen in the hardware world [03:34] off to bed. Still have to get up for the school run tomorrow and work [03:35] I just want to know that as far as things stand, it's all sorted [03:35] if it breaks again that's another issue [03:35] but as of now, is it healthy? [03:36] heh [03:36] i don't want to comment any further, you're after things i can't provide [03:37] just see how it goes [03:37] lol [03:37] you should be a politician [03:37] lol [03:37] night night === zmoylan-1i is now known as zmoylan-pi [07:03] seesh [07:03] dont think i can save everyone [07:04] met a girl tonight thats got as many problems as me [07:04] but a way worse job and no money [07:04] * mapps cant help himself ....how can i help anyone else [07:53] you're forgetting callahans law. shared pain lessens shared joy increases === Guest44253 is now known as MooDoo [07:59] morning all [08:06] Morning all [08:09] howdy dipli [08:09] doh too early [08:15] hah === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [09:35] Good morning all; happy Cookie Day! :-D [09:37] * davmor2 eats all the Cookies now it is happy belly day :) [09:41] davmor2, World Wildlife Conservation Day? You're wild life, aren't you? :-P [09:42] * zmoylan-pi swings across channel on handy vine [09:51] JamesTait: I already Fund people looking after tigers and reintegrating them into the wild :) [09:51] I just look after mini tigers. ;) [10:02] JamesTait: https://plus.google.com/photos?pid=5479982879927839602&oid=104244164525559506101 [10:02] rwar! [10:05] davmor2, I think I recognise him! [10:06] JamesTait: been to India Recently? [10:07] davmor2, ah, no - must have been his South African cousin. [10:08] JamesTait: Africa is Lion you muppet ;) [10:12] davmor2, this is not a lion: https://www.flickr.com/photos/jamestait0/15918390796/ [10:14] davmor2, this is a lion (and a lioness): https://www.flickr.com/photos/jamestait0/15321948254/ [10:34] morning boys and girls. [10:35] JamesTait: first one is a lion in stripy pyjamas you can't blag my head ;) [10:35] davmor2, heheh. :) Stripey pyjama cat? [10:35] brobostigon, o/ [10:36] moring JamesTait [10:37] JamesTait: Straight from the mouth of a meerkat so it must true right? [10:57] Hi [10:57] is there a way to know the port number from process id? [10:59] I think you can get that via netstat [10:59] -p | grep the PID ? [11:01] ok [11:06] diplo: -p says program name as per man ps [11:06] diplo: please correct me if i am wrong in interpreting it [11:06] I did netstat -p | grep 22422 [11:07] Says in man that it shows the Program name and the PID [11:07] udp 0 0 localhost.localdomain:42599 localhost.localdomain:42599 ESTABLISHED 22422/postmaster [11:07] diplo: i am interested to know the port number [11:07] Good morning peeps :) [11:09] I'm not a great netstat user but looks like netstat -apt | grep PID ? [11:09] add a -n to the netstat for faster responce [11:10] Worked here kaushal [11:12] ok [11:12] xplora1a: is it nestat -aptn | grep PID? [11:13] i mean netstat* [11:13] netstat -aptn | grep PID? [11:13] yes, the -n stops netstat doing a revers dns on every IP address [11:13] xplora1a: ok [11:14] what dos -a -p and -t options for? [11:14] is -t meant for tcp? [11:15] -p is the PID/program name -t TCP only [11:15] ok [11:15] xplora1a: Thanks [11:16] diplo: thanks [11:16] cah [11:18] xplora1a: if i do netstat -aptn | grep 22761 [11:18] i get http://paste.ubuntu.com/9365914/ [11:18] -a, --all [11:18] Show both listening and non-listening sockets. With the --interfaces [11:18] option, show interfaces that are not up [11:18] what does :::1103 and :::* mean [11:18] can i get the field header name? [11:19] for tcp 0 0 :::1103 :::* LISTEN 22761/java [11:20] those are listern ports so anything can connect to those ports. but if there werer established connections to those ports they would be seperatly listed [11:20] xplora1a: ok [11:21] :::1103 is an IPv6 address [11:21] ok [11:21] xplora1a: one last question [11:21] ok [11:22] how do i include header meaning column name [11:22] in netstat -aptn | grep PID [11:22] not sure, have a look through man netstat [11:22] ok [11:25] netstat -an | head gives me the desired output [11:25] but when i do netstat -an | head | grep 22761 [11:25] it returns nothing [11:25] I know i am doing something wrong === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [13:36] * popey boggles that this thing has hit 12KUSD https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-ubutab-a-1tb-ubuntu-tablet-for-media-lovers [13:44] popey: worth while? [13:44] well the really odd thing about that is they only want 36k [13:44] yeah, can't see how it's viable [13:44] that doesn't seem like enough for a production run, unless it's basically an existing tablet [13:45] morning [13:45] Spinning rust in a tablet, wonder how long that will last [13:46] like spinning rust in a laptop? [13:46] not really. nobody actually uses a laptop on their lap [13:46] nobody uses a tablet on their lap either :D [13:46] yeah they hold it constantly [13:46] popey: I think that a tablet might be treated with a little less care than a laptop [13:46] which means lots of shaking [13:47] sure ㋛ [13:47] and laptop hard drives tend to die already [13:50] I think it's on indiegogo rather than kickstarter because kickstarter would require proven prototypes before listing it [13:50] indiegogo doesn't vet things so thoroughly [13:50] they also require it's not just some existing peice of hardware that you are reselling [13:51] good point [13:51] anyway, i'd rather have a 256GB SSD in such a tablet. would be about the same price. [13:51] wonder if anyone will ever get their device === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [13:53] they must be reselling someone else's hardware to be able to deliver by their anticipated April deadline [13:53] If it looks too good to be true, it probably is. === bashrc_ is now known as bashrc [13:53] Nice concept, but would need to see a working model. [13:54] the "hardware partner" is named on the comments page [13:54] i like this comment: "Would much rather have a tablet running Ubuntu, so much more available as far as programs for the work I do." [13:55] people still think convergence means "can run desktop software on phones" [13:55] rather than "can run phone apps on the desktop" === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [14:49] ARRGH another one of those websites that locks up my WHOLE BROWSER [14:50] http://t.co/rqISLVSza3 << anyone else want to test? [14:50] Makes Firefox grey out [14:50] (mildly NSFW as it has a picture of a lady with lasers aimed at her groinal area) [14:50] awilkins, love the picture [14:51] maybe it's best you don't see it ;) [14:52] now I'm wondering what made awilkins search for vaginal atrophy [14:52] It was in my twitter feed [14:52] lol [14:52] yey for the twits [14:53] awilkins: again why did you look? [14:53] Tweet was : Career milestone achieved: [X] Write up a news story that demands a header image of lasers shooting out of a vagina. [14:54] awilkins: and again you thought that's something I need to view ;) [14:54] XD [14:54] Shared it because of the annoying browser lockup thing [14:55] Keeps happening to me recently, convinced it's to do with some of these evil clickbait things [14:55] works fine in chromeland [14:56] so the new 007/bond movie is to be called "spectre" [14:56] awilkins: works fine but slowly in firefox. It is really slow to scroll though [14:56] Yeah, the slow scrolling is a symptom too [14:58] i like the progress bar shading in the bit on the right as you read through [16:14] fire at hermes [16:15] also, who has done RHCSA or RHCE lately? === luke is now known as Guest94307 [16:42] foobarry, where's hermes? [16:43] aah it's an american parcel co? [16:43] Yesterday evening, Wednesday 3rd December we experienced a fire at our key hub in Warrington, causing significant damage to our main sorter. We would like to assure you that no one was injured in the fire an [16:43] "no parcels have been damaged." [16:43] With immediate effect we have activated a new central hub at Bradford to process extra volumes and are evaluating other potential sites today to provide additional support. [16:43] aah, warrington, not washington >.< [16:43] lol [17:01] well that was stinky [17:01] 2 iphone charging cables [17:02] bought them off amazon unofficial few quid each [17:02] neither work..used them once [17:02] blew up your house? [17:02] nah [17:02] just nothing happens when i plug phone in to them [17:03] mapps: lightning? [17:03] ya [17:03] mmm you can't really go cheap on those :( [17:04] why? [17:04] they're either licensed or they don't work [17:04] heh [17:04] and the license cost [17:04] s [17:04] they worked at first tho [17:04] lightning never strikes twice [17:04] or always... [17:04] i never remember === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [17:06] mapps, they're required to have a chip in them and the iphone will kill any that are using a dodgy or no license [17:06] IIRC [17:06] and IANAL [17:07] that's a really unfortunate acronym [17:07] daftykins, for you maybe ;-) [17:08] teehee [17:26] diddledan: i thought that assistance would never end last night ;) [17:26] heh, I went to bed [17:27] she was demanding i state whether it was working or not, solely from one install and dmesg staying relatively quiet [17:28] i think i need a Scottie reference here somewhere [17:28] :-) [17:28] scottie ftw [17:29] "I've given you all I've got" [17:29] i liked a cartoon parody i saw the other day [17:30] constant interruptions to Kirk over the radio, Scottie saying "uuuh, you're not gonnae believe this cap'n, but whenever i say i'm giving it all she's got... i've only just seen the lever goes another 1/3rd up - so i literally CAN make us go faster" [17:30] "given most of the drama we're in could be evaded by going just a little bit faster, i'd like to apologies Cap'n for putting us in harms way so often" [17:31] it's the rocker's method of going "1 faster" [18:21] * popey points everyone at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-uk/2014-December/038109.html [18:21] * popey hopes some people reply at some point ☻ [18:22] a support event could be fun! [18:24] hmm, do I need chocolate or not? [18:24] it does sound like a good idea [18:24] got 30 minutes before the shop closes [18:25] you ALWAYS need chocolate, diddledan [18:25] yeah, that's what I was thinking [18:25] i polished off a galaxy bar of ~112g last night to recover from support giving [18:25] :-) [18:25] brb. shop time. === alan_g_ is now known as alan_g|EOD [18:33] i like the message from the chap about old PCs, Pentium D his daily driver? poor chap [19:09] * diddledan sent a commandline love command to uupc \o/ [19:10] I think we've done that one [19:10] awww [19:13] hmm, maybe not [19:13] just went back through many [20:34] ok, I want a 3d printer now: http://www.geek.com/geek-cetera/you-can-3d-print-your-very-own-moving-stargate-1610922/ [20:46] surely you mean the temporary use of one, forget ownership ;) [20:47] once you have access to one and know the formula for stargate addresses.... [20:49] gotta admit that's one thing I don't see the appeal of [20:49] shauno: 3D printers in general? [20:49] from the few people I've talked to who have one, it seems half the fun is getting it working. and the other half is fixing it [20:49] shauno, a stargate or a 3d printer? [20:49] yeah definitely [20:50] remember those HP TouchPad tablets? i'm wiping mine ahead of popping it on ebay [20:51] just had to interact with good ol' WebOS briefly, what a classic :D [20:55] eep === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [21:01] I made a noise that shouldn't come out of a beardy hippy bloke: http://www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi2621615897/ === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [21:15] anyone know of a mouse button 'debounce' setting? [21:16] 1/2 of clicks are now double clicks some how [21:17] if your using KDE, you can set the double click interval [21:17] tried another mouse? [21:17] just boring old 14.something [21:17] unity I guess [21:20] plug something else in just to be sure, had someone with a mouse that'd given up on life the other day [21:20] it is well used, probably 6 years old... [21:21] with around 2 years of MC [21:22] 2 years in a motorcycle club, that's a fine mouse [21:22] lol [21:22] mine craft... [21:23] aaaaaaah