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Kilosmorning peeps04:47
bdukMore almal05:24
Kiloshi bduk 05:24
Kilosaw i missed a new visitor05:24
bdukExplain??05:30
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Kilosdont you see join messages?05:31
Kiloshi ThatGraemeGuy 06:15
* Kilos slumming a while06:16
Squirmmorning06:18
Kiloshi Squirm 06:18
ThatGraemeGuymornings06:23
Kilosoh ThatGraemeGuy do you guys take on youngsters in like an apprenticeship?06:33
ThatGraemeGuyhrmmmm like a student for a few weeks/months?06:34
Kilosi dont know what things are called nowadays06:34
Kiloswell, blaze is still at school this coming year and then he needs a job i think06:34
Kilosblazehen, you here?06:35
ThatGraemeGuynot that I know of06:35
Kilosif you hear of someone that does please tell us , ty ThatGraemeGuy 06:35
ThatGraemeGuycool06:36
ThatGraemeGuyi'm pretty sure we would hire someone into the support dept if they had the right soft skills06:36
Kiloshe gets disheartened because all jobs want peeps with experience, but how does a youngster get experience06:36
blazehenKilos, yeah06:36
blazehenhi ThatGraemeGuy 06:36
ThatGraemeGuywe provide all the technical training, so you needn't really be a wiz to start in support06:36
ThatGraemeGuyhaving a bit of tech knowledge helps too though06:37
Kiloshe runs lots things from home and is clued with coding06:37
blazehenty ThatGraemeGuy 06:37
blazehenMind sharing where you work?06:37
Kiloshetzner06:37
blazehenah06:38
ThatGraemeGuyhttp://hetznercareers.theresumator.com/apply/hP9PCm/Support-Consultants.html06:38
ThatGraemeGuythat's for a support person, the only hard requirement is matric06:38
blazehenoh, nice :)06:38
ThatGraemeGuyits a great way to get started for somone straight out of school06:38
blazehenyeah, ty for the info :)06:39
Kilosty ThatGraemeGuy 06:39
ThatGraemeGuyyou're welcome06:39
ThatGraemeGuyanyone use i3wm?06:40
ThatGraemeGuyI'm itching for a new DE and it looks different enough to be interesting06:40
blazehenThatGraemeGuy, I used it a bit, and IIRC either charl or superfly does06:40
blazehenHave you tried awesome? I'm running that ATM06:40
Kiloscharl ya06:40
ThatGraemeGuyah that's another tiling one yeah?06:41
blazehenyeah06:41
blazehenBut not really "dynamic" tiling if I can call it that06:41
ThatGraemeGuytime to fire up some testing VMs06:41
blazehenyou just get defined layouts in a lua file06:41
blazehenAll the config is in lua06:42
ThatGraemeGuyI know a little bot of Lua from playing too much minetest :)06:42
Kiloslol06:42
blazehenWant a screenshot of my setup on lua?06:42
ThatGraemeGuyyeah lets have a look06:43
ThatGraemeGuyi have 2 screens and i typically have 1 full-screen app in each, but I've been realising that in most cases there's a ton of empty space in each, seems I could use the space better06:44
blazehenhttp://theblazehen.com/scrot.png06:45
Kiloseeeek06:45
blazehenKilos, ?06:46
Kilosi could never use something like that06:46
blazehenhah, just takes a few minutes to learn06:47
Kilosfor me thats months not minutes06:48
ThatGraemeGuylooks good06:54
ThatGraemeGuyesp IRC window has less wasted space06:55
ThatGraemeGuyby comparison, my irc window has about the same lines, but a lot of blank space on the right06:55
ThatGraemeGuyhttp://i.imgur.com/GD2hjqq.png06:55
blazehenI'm using dual monitors, but yeah, I often tile firefox, with vlc and IRC windows06:56
blazehenHmm, yeah.. On wide screen tiling is real good06:56
blazehenI'm running 1024x768 + 1600x90006:56
ThatGraemeGuyi have 2 1920x1080 here. If I had the right model screens I could use my laptop's screen too06:57
ThatGraemeGuyintel gfx can't do 3 screens if they have different timings, and the 2 screens have different timings to the laptop's screen :(06:58
ThatGraemeGuy60.0Hz vs 60.1Hz06:58
blazehenOh, wow.. That sucks06:58
blazehenCan't force one to 60?06:58
ThatGraemeGuynope06:58
ThatGraemeGuyat least not any way I've found06:58
blazehenHmm.. Been thinking of getting a 3rd here, but my CRT flickers too much at 60 Hz :(06:59
ThatGraemeGuyI should ask our local IT support guy of anyone has it working06:59
ThatGraemeGuymaybe I can trade my 2 monitors for a different model that allows it to work06:59
blazehenyeah, that'd be nice06:59
ThatGraemeGuyyeah LCDs don't flicker thankfully06:59
ThatGraemeGuyin the CRT days I could barely cope with 75Hz07:00
ThatGraemeGuy80+ was perfect typically07:00
blazehenheh, just glad my HDMI -> VGA converter supports 75 Hz07:01
Kilossee ThatGraemeGuy he will be a good catch for some company07:04
ThatGraemeGuythat isn't really what our support people deal with :P07:17
Kilosoh07:18
Kilosstart a new trend for them07:18
Kiloshehe07:18
Kilossupport with everything07:18
blazehenKilos, heh, some places actually are like that07:23
blazehenread the stories at reddit.com/user/bytewave/submitted/ if you want07:24
blazehenI like this one: https://www.reddit.com/r/talesfromtechsupport/comments/2ng4rx/sure_our_telco_can_torrent_your_movie/07:25
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Kiloshmm...08:16
* Kilos thinks with seriosity08:17
Kiloshehe08:17
Kilosseriotensity08:17
theblazehenlol08:22
Kilosgot a cpu fan that has all the ends broken off the mounting bracket08:25
theblazehenlol, duct tape?08:26
Kilosneed to work a plan to use screws from under the motherboard to hold them safely in place08:26
Kilosno man it has to mount preciselt so the sink lies centre on the cpu08:26
Kilosprecisely08:26
theblazehenooh, heat sink too..08:27
Kilosoh its the sinks brackets that has broken mounts08:27
Kilosya the sink is the important part08:28
Kilosfan can be jury rigged on top08:28
theblazehenWhich mobo is that for?08:29
Kilosi3 p45t-a08:29
Kilosthis one im on hasnt given any hassles since getting a new drive and installing kubuntu08:30
Kilosrather boring08:31
Kilosthats why im on unity here now on a repaired drive08:41
ThatGraemeGuyI need to update my windows 7 VM more often. Just grabbed 1.3GB of updates :-o08:48
Kiloswhew09:04
Kiloshi there superfly inetpro charl 09:07
ThatGraemeGuyheh09:07
ThatGraemeGuyso with a 100Mbit internet connection downloading 1.3GB of updates is MUCH faster than actually installing them09:07
Kiloslol09:08
superflyohi09:09
Kilossjoe , forgot where i put my vernia. not often used on computers09:10
theblazehenThatGraemeGuy, heh, nice. Love that feel on my VPS too. You try win 10 tech preview yet?09:13
ThatGraemeGuyno, I have no real interest in following developments in Windowsland, I just have a VM for when I absolutely have to use it09:14
ThatGraemeGuyand judging by the fact that the last time I booted it was also just because I thought hey maybe I should update it, I'm starting to wonder if I shouldn't just dump it09:15
theblazehenThatGraemeGuy, yeah, I keep a win 8.1 dual boot for skyrim09:16
theblazehenAnd a VM on my ESXi machine for other stuff09:16
theblazehenDon't use it apart from that09:16
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captinehi all10:11
Kiloshi captine 10:11
theblazehenhi captine 10:12
captinehttp://imgur.com/JANQvkZ - how does one report this to canonical / web admins?  am asking in the main #ubuntu channel as well10:13
theblazehencaptine, AFAIK there is an ubuntu bugs project10:14
theblazehenhava a google for that10:14
Kilostheblazehen, go win me this lappy please10:18
Kiloshttp://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/664401-Gigabyte-P25W-R20-000-laptop-giveaway10:18
Kilosi can never get to type in done10:18
theblazehenKilos, I can try..10:19
Kilosno man dont try, just win it10:19
Kilosthen we swap it for an i7 cpu for here10:19
theblazehenmight break the rules10:20
Kilosafter youve one it rules dont apply anymore10:20
Kilosso be leagal till its in your hands10:21
Kiloslooks like a good lappy that10:21
captinetheblazehen, thanks.  popey on #ubuntu has reported it10:22
captinethink he is on the community management team 10:22
theblazehenKilos, nah, can only make 1 entry..10:25
Kilosya one is good. only one can win10:26
Kilosyay i got to eventually say done, after all that page to page and register and forgot password and all10:28
Kilossjoe10:28
Squirmshoh10:38
Squirmit's hot10:38
Squirmand my feet are sore10:38
Kilosoh my Squirm you playing gofer10:41
Kilosdo you stand at work?10:41
SquirmKilos: been working in our warehouse, in receiving. During the peak season, everybody does an extra bit to help out11:41
Kilosaha11:55
=== Zarw is now known as Wraz
Kiloshi Cantide wb captine 14:22
Cantidehello :p14:22
Kiloshows the korican14:23
Cantidecold14:23
Kiloskorearican14:23
Cantideit's currently -6 C14:23
Kiloslol is it winter there now14:23
Cantideother than that, all is well :p14:23
Kilosouch14:23
Cantideyes14:23
Cantidehow is SA? :p14:23
Kiloslekker warm14:24
Cantidelol14:24
Cantidelet's swap for the season14:24
Cantidewhat have i missed here? :D14:25
Kilosno man i hate cold as well14:25
Cantidelol14:25
Cantidei cycled in the snow the other day, it was actually nice14:25
Kilosanything under 20°c is cold to me14:25
Cantidelol14:25
Cantideanything under 0 is cold to me14:25
Kilosbig change from durbs hey14:26
Kilosthere i dont think it ever gets below 6°c14:26
Cantideyeah14:27
Cantideat night even lol14:27
Cantidebut it's really fine so long as you dress appropriately14:28
Kilosand being young helps14:28
Cantidethat, too14:28
Cantidei was wearing 3 layers today14:28
Cantidewasn't bad at all14:28
Kilossjoe14:28
Cantidejust my face froze lol14:28
Kilosi was just gonna ask how you hide your nose14:29
Cantidecan't lol14:30
Cantidei have a hood, that's about it14:30
Cantideor wear a mask sometimes14:30
Cantidemy apartment is heated, so right now i'm okay :p14:31
Cantidei'll make some coffee, brb14:31
Kilossigh, power in za is frustrating16:42
captinelove load shedding16:56
Kilosya16:56
Kilossigh16:56
Kiloshi Joe_knock 16:56
Joe_knockhey there oom Kilos 17:25
nlsthznSup ZA peeps :)18:05
Kiloshi nlsthzn hows ya18:05
nlsthznfine uncle Kilos and yourself?18:06
Kilosgood ty neelsie18:06
nlsthznglad to hear :)18:07
Kilosoh neelsie you didnt say we lost crashkid and the weed to silicon valley18:09
nlsthzn?18:10
Kilosin the re-evaluation thing18:10
nlsthznI have no idea about that uncle Kilos 18:10
Kilosand we must make a point of asking them to drop it now seeing as with this one we will be a loco for 10 years18:11
Kilosok ill add it to my thing18:11
Kilosum18:11
Kiloser18:11
Kilosmy story thing18:11
Kilostestimonial18:11
nlsthzndrop what now?18:13
Kilosim lost nlsthzn 18:13
Kilosoh18:13
Kilosthe need to re-evaluate every 2 years18:13
nlsthznthey will not drop the requirements just because we ask :p18:14
nlsthznthis is an international thing with good reasons for existing18:14
Kilosna18:15
Kilostiring and stressfull18:15
nlsthznnot really.  But we are in need of fresh blood so to speak :)18:15
Kilosi forgot what i told maaz to remember the link to our page18:16
charlgood evening18:16
Kilossigh18:16
Kiloshi charl 18:16
charlhi Kilos 18:16
Kiloswhy dont you put a testimonial there too charl18:16
Kilostell them how glad you are to be a part of us with all the free coffee maaz makes you18:17
nlsthzn:)18:17
KilosMaaz, re-verification18:18
Maazhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/ReVerificationApplication201418:18
Kilosha18:18
charllol Kilos are you people busy with that again18:18
Kilosya we get re-verified on the 16th18:19
* nlsthzn plays some games with the family... bbl18:21
Kilosnaand inetpro 18:35
Kiloswb theblazehen 18:47
theblazehenah, ty18:48
theblazehendidn't even know I diisconnected..18:48
Kiloshehe18:49
theblazehenNo wonder my network stuff wasn't working18:49
Kilosi see it all18:49
theblazehenfirewall got the blazme18:49
Kiloslol18:49
theblazehennope, firwall deserves the blame..18:56
Kiloshaha18:56
theblazehenWhat kinda firewall doesn't pass UDP?!18:57
theblazehenlike it says UDP is enabled, but it wont pass18:57
Kiloswhat firewall you using18:57
theblazehenbuilt in one on router18:58
Kilosoi18:58
theblazehenstops brother from playing too much minecraft18:58
Kiloslol18:58
Kilosi love that game18:59
Kilosbut eats data18:59
Kilosmade for uncapped adsl peeps18:59
theblazehenya19:01
theblazehenThis temperature is too hot :(19:01
* theblazehen turns off CRT19:02
Joe_knockthe summer weather?19:02
theblazehenyeah19:03
theblazehenPhone battery at 34.619:03
theblazehenSo room temp is at least 3019:03
Kilosmine is near flat just from whatsapping grrr19:03
Joe_knockit is unusually hot for an evening19:03
Kilostomorrow gonna be 34°c19:03
Joe_knockoom, this weather must be mild for you, kZN is way hotter19:04
Kilosthe temp seems to have risen in the last hour19:04
theblazehenKilos, ai :(19:04
theblazehenKilos, ya, did here at least19:04
Kilosmust be storm brewing somewhere19:04
* theblazehen hopes19:04
Kiloslol19:05
Kilosget a fan man19:05
KilosJoe_knock, i love hot weather19:05
Kilossuffer here in winter19:05
Joe_knocki haven't met many people say "i love hot weather"19:06
Kilosthe fly also does19:06
theblazehenKilos, Ceiling fan is running, but can't open big windows, or door due to dogs19:07
Kilosi think only us two here like it hot19:07
Kilosai! theblazehen 19:07
Kilosthose ceiling fans are for show19:07
Kilosbest is put a fan on the floor with a dish of cold water in front of it19:08
theblazehenKilos, Ya :(19:08
theblazehenooh good idea19:08
Kilosthen you will feel the diffs19:08
theblazehenya, tomorrow then19:08
Kilosair moving over water drops temp quick19:09
captinei love hot weather.  lived in Philippines for 20 months19:09
captinebest temps ever19:09
Kiloswhats it like there captine 19:10
Kilosi like temps between 20°c and 35°c19:10
theblazehenheh, this afternoon I had to walk out of my room for like 10 min, because it was too hot19:11
Kilosah afternoon sun on it theblazehen ?19:11
Kilosuse the hose on the wall outside19:11
Kilosohi superfly 19:14
captineKilos, i loved it19:14
theblazehenKilos, oh ya, good idea19:14
captineregret having left19:14
theblazehenty19:14
captinelovely people, fun lifestyle19:14
Kilosall my ideas are good, except for the bad ones19:14
superflyhi Kilos19:14
Kilostemps captine 19:14
theblazehencaptine, hows the temperatures there?19:15
captinetwo seasons.  hot and then the hot +wet.19:15
captinesummer, 32 degrees at 8am19:15
captineevery room in house had aircon19:16
Kilosmax?19:16
captinehottest temp our car recorded was in a car park at about 4219:16
Kilosthe wind died down theblazehen thats why it warmed up19:16
captineit pretty much is between 26 and 3819:16
Kilosthats good weather for heat lovers19:17
Kiloswhats the winter temps like captine ?19:17
Joe_knockeast asia is a cool place to live. plus its indian ocean, so warm ocean water19:24
captinelol19:28
captinethere is no winter19:28
captineonly dry heat, or raining heat19:28
captinelowest it got while i was there was 1519:28
Kilosthast lekker. like in the tropics19:29
Joe_knockwhat made you come back to SA?19:29
* Kilos yawns19:35
Kilosnight all. sleep tight19:35
grembleo/21:06
theblazehen_Hi gremble 21:15
grembleHey theblazehen_ 21:21
Joe_knockresults out? gremble 21:38
gremble Yup. So far passed everything. Missed my distinctions, but can't do much about that21:41
grembleWrote Geology on monday, so just waiting for that now21:41
Joe_knockexam on 1 december? strange that it is so late21:54
grembleWas the Aergotat (sick exam). I had Numerical analysis and geology scheduled for the same time on the 13th of Nov21:55
Joe_knockoh okie. numeric analysis would be wtw 26* ?21:55
gremblefor engineers yes21:56
gremblefor me it is 12321:56
Joe_knockfirst year? Arent you second year?21:56
grembleI have a bunch of first year math subjects that I had to catch up with. Switched from CompSci to Applied math21:56
Joe_knockoh yes. how has your year been with applied math?21:58
grembleHard. Had to drop philosophy. Dynamical systems was pretty insane. I think engineers have it as wtw 264 or something like that - Differential equations21:59
Joe_knocktuks does push out some of the smartest engineers in SA21:59
grembleWell, hopefully I get to add my name to one of the greats from SA :P22:00
grembleI can't remember what you do22:01
gremble:x22:01
Joe_knockI don't think I told you :P22:02
Joe_knockI had a weird experience at a job interview yesterday.22:03
grembleYou often have weird experiences at job interviews?22:03
Joe_knockyeah, it wasn't a run of the mill type of interview. The guy decided to go all philosophical on me22:05
grembleDid you blow his mind with your insights?22:06
grembleFor what was the interview?22:06
Joe_knockI actually just let him talk, as he did provide some valuable info.22:07
Joe_knockfor a web-dev job22:07
grembleI have the same regard for front-end webdevs that I have for accountants, teachers, nurses, sales people and the likes. Fucking amazing shit that I would not be able to do 22:09
Joe_knockI'm beginning to regret not taking accounting as an elective though.22:10
Joe_knockthat is a prized skill in SA22:11
grembleNope. I'd rather pay someone to do that who is a professional and knows what is up with what22:11
grembleIf you want a prized skill, become a certified linux engineer22:11
Joe_knockYou think so? I should register for the LPiC then22:13
Joe_knockpay isn't too great for sysadmins though22:13
grembleThere aren't linux system admins/engineers in SA22:13
grembleI was talking with a guy at SFD this year22:13
gremblewho complained about it. They are few and far between and expensive22:14
Joe_knockThere are plenty certified sysadmins in SA. check out: lsd.co.za22:14
grembleI thought about doing it, you know as a back up career. But decided that I would rather focus 140% of my energy into something I fully and thoroughly enjoy instead22:18
grembleand If I end up becoming a homeless mathematician, so be it22:18
Joe_knockBanks value talented mathematicians.22:19
grembleWhat is LSD?22:19
Joe_knockIt's a linux company.22:20
Joe_knockOr kinda like a consulting firm I think22:20
grembleNo where does it say :P22:23
Joe_knockhttp://www.lsd.co.za/go-to/about-lsd22:25
grembleThat still does not say what they do. I duno if they are being vague on purpose though :p22:29
Joe_knockI think they see themselves as broad open source providers. Training, certification and custom services22:32
gremble_I don't understand why I have such issues connecting to freenode :|22:43
Joe_knockIs it your connection?22:44
Joe_knockTry using the free wifi in hatfield and see if that works22:44
gremble_Ya that is really far away right now :P I don't think 12Km wifi exists yet22:47
gremble_It does look like something is killing my connection22:47
Joe_knockThe wifi area is massive for Pretoria now.22:47
gremble_Haven't reached us yet22:48
gremble_I think I am going to hit the sack22:50
gremble_Cheers Joe_knock 22:50
Joe_knockcheers. tc22:50

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