[00:00] <mindless_chaos> tttg
[00:04] <mindless_chaos> yuk.. not likin gnome
[00:04] <Malcolm> What do you think, guys? http://payripo.com/?share=7080 Is this real or just another bullshit?
[00:04] <Chuck_Norris> mindless_chaos: xD mmm... cinnamon ? -.-
[00:04] <mindless_chaos> reminds me of windows 8 :(
[00:05] <mindless_chaos> lol Eh, I dunno, I am sure in a few hours I'll have most of the main ones installed
[00:05] <Chuck_Norris> mindless_chaos: cinnamon will reminds you windows 7 xD
[00:05]  * mindless_chaos likes 7
[00:05] <mindless_chaos> unity is comfertable
[00:06] <Chuck_Norris> mindless_chaos: sudo apt-get install cinnamon
[00:06] <mindless_chaos> dinner time, after dinner
[00:06] <Chuck_Norris> ok
[00:15] <MrSavage> hi all, i'm wondering how you actually use unity?
[00:16] <Chuck_Norris> MrSavage: hold super key
[00:16] <kostkon> !manual
[00:16] <Chuck_Norris> ("windows" key for windows users :p)
[00:17] <MrSavage> Chuck_Norris: what if i want a dedicated icon for a terminal that's holding Irssi?
[00:17] <MrSavage> Also how can I select the right window from a gropuing properly? I find it very convuluted and just takes longer
[00:17] <EriC^^> MrSavage: make a .desktop file with the command gnome-terminal -e irssi
[00:18] <MrSavage> EriC^^: but them anything run in gnome-terminal will be grouped with other gnome-terminals right?
[00:18] <EriC^^> MrSavage: you mean with alt+tab?
[00:18] <MrSavage> then*
[00:18] <creatorb> morning all...
[00:18] <EriC^^> MrSavage: no, just that icon
[00:18] <MrSavage> EriC^^: with alt-tab and also clicking
[00:19] <EriC^^> MrSavage: with alt+tab use alt+` to switch between the groups
[00:19] <Chuck_Norris> MrSavage: gnome-desktop-item-edit --create-new shortcut.desktop
[00:19] <EriC^^> Chuck_Norris: what's that? a unity-tweak command?
[00:20] <MrSavage> Chuck_Norris: where do i put the .desktop file?
[00:20] <MrSavage> desktop folder? :P
[00:20] <Chuck_Norris> EriC^^: no, that will pop up a windows for him to create a launcher
[00:20] <BUSY> ~
[00:20] <EriC^^> Chuck_Norris: i dont have that
[00:20] <EriC^^> MrSavage: /usr/share/applications
[00:20] <MrSavage> EriC^^: I find that so convuluted
[00:21] <MrSavage> Chuck_Norris: I have unity
[00:21] <MrSavage> i don't have that command
[00:21] <EriC^^> MrSavage: use a desktop file in that directory as a template
[00:21] <MrSavage> I find it very convuluted to use alt-tab, then use using alt-`
[00:22] <EriC^^> huh
[00:22] <Chuck_Norris> doh' i am on gnome and i have it, but EriC^^ will is telling you how to do it manually
[00:22] <EriC^^> it's pretty easy
[00:22] <Chuck_Norris> gnome-shell*
[00:22] <MrSavage> EriC^^: it just feels annoying for my hands to press and it seems like an extra step
[00:23] <MrSavage> Chuck_Norris: what you mean gnome-shell?
[00:23] <EriC^^> MrSavage: if it was otherwise it would probably open up the stuff you didnt want
[00:23] <MrSavage> personally i would rather click then have to use keyboard shortcuts to manage many windows
[00:24] <rnms> hiiii
[00:24] <rnms> whats here
[00:24] <Chuck_Norris> MrSavage: it's a shell for gnome, like unity is a shell for gnome too -.-
[00:24] <MrSavage> EriC^^: I don't mind double clicking for an application on the taskbar, but i notice if you click too many times it closes the window displays...
[00:25] <getoo> i have installed ubuntu on my macbook pro and now i am trying to put snow leopard back on it .. can anybody help me out please
[00:26] <getoo> i did try google with not much help
[00:26] <reisio> getoo: try #macosx
[00:26] <getoo> reisio: the funny thing is they sent me here
[00:26] <getoo> :)
[00:27] <getoo> and for some reason i think linux people know a lot more then #macosx peeps
[00:27] <reisio> that is funny
[00:27] <reisio> yeah, like they know the right channel :P
[00:27] <OerHeks> if you want to wipe ubuntu, they know howto do it with leopard.
[00:27] <MrSavage> Chuck_Norris: I mean what would i type to make the shortcut for unity?
[00:28] <getoo> i tried booting acording to the apple instruction but the installation wont beging and i get a beep :)
[00:29] <EriC^^> MrSavage: open a terminal, type cp /usr/share/applications/gnome-terminal.desktop /usr/share/applications/irssi.desktop
[00:29] <Chuck_Norris> MrSavage: idk, but you could create a keyboard shortcut i think
[00:29] <getoo> I'm using ERC Version 5.3 with GNU Emacs 23.4.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.24.21, multi-tty) of 2013-10-25.
[00:29] <EriC^^> MrSavage: then type gksu gedit /usr/share/applications/irssi.desktop and change the Exec part to gnome-terminal irssi
[00:29] <EriC^^> sorry i mean gnome-terminal -e irssi
[00:30] <EriC^^> MrSavage: you need sudo for the cp command
[00:33] <Chuck_Norris> well... i am going to watch "Manny Pacquiao vs Chris Algieri" n1 EriC^^ cya MrSavage
[00:36] <MrSavage> EriC^^: putting "gnome-terminal irssi" doesn't work if i put it in the Exec. Nothing opens
[00:37] <EriC^^> yeah
[00:37] <MrSavage> EriC^^: I mean the terminal opens, but no IRSSI
[00:37] <EriC^^> gnome-terminal -e irssi
[00:38] <MrSavage> EriC^^: It worked but the icon is getting grouped with my other terminals
[00:38] <in_deep_thought> I have a ubuntu iso file on a flash drive that I did the dd if = /Downloads/ubuntu iso of = /dev/disk1s2  thing with. How, when I put it into the computer, can I get it to boot from that so that I can install ubuntu
[00:38] <MrSavage> I'm not liking unity so far :(
[00:38] <adriantora> truqui
[00:39] <EriC^^> in_deep_thought: set the bios to boot the usb first
[00:39] <in_deep_thought> EriC^^: is the bios on F12?
[00:39] <EriC^^> yeah
[00:39] <MrSavage> DELETE FOR ME
[00:39] <MrSavage> F12 for boot menu
[00:40] <in_deep_thought> hmm my bios didn’t give me any boot options.
[00:40] <MrSavage> in_deep_thought: you have to hold down the key until it comes up, from bootup
[00:41] <EriC^^> in_deep_thought: check the boot options in the bios
[00:41] <EriC^^> in_deep_thought: you can change the order permanently
[00:42] <in_deep_thought> It says a bunch of text, and then press Ctrl R to change boot options. Then it takes me to a purple screen with ubuntu versions (previous install). I don’t think im on the bios yet
[00:45] <in_deep_thought> it keeps giving me the Power Edge expandable raid controller bios. whatever that is. The only option is Ctrl-R and it takes me to that purple screen, not the real bios.
[00:45] <in_deep_thought> perhaps this is a better question for #linux?
[00:46] <EriC^^> in_deep_thought: try a different keyboard button
[00:47] <EriC^^> in_deep_thought: try pressing esc when the pc boots see what you get
[00:51] <daftykins> in_deep_thought: disk1s2 didn't sound right. (not only for sounding like a nasty Mac) but how about testing that drive in a normal system to see it boots, before wrestling with some antique? ;)
[00:52] <in_deep_thought> daftykins: I have another working ubuntu comptuer. maybe if I do the whole dd thiing from a /dev/sdb or whatever, it will be bootable?
[00:53] <daftykins> yeah, or just test it on that system too
[00:53] <daftykins> make sure the drive is known good before experimenting in the funky system
[00:53] <daftykins> but entering a BIOS really ought not to be to difficult
[00:53] <EriC^^> in_deep_thought: why would you dd your /dev/sdb?
[00:54] <daftykins> i believe in_deep_thought means the ISO onto /dev/sdb if that were the flash drive :)
[00:55] <in_deep_thought> EriC^^: I mean that when doing the dd line I have to use of = /dev/disk1s2 because its moving from a mac. Maybe if I moved it from a ubuntu machine where the flash drives are labeled /dev/sdb it would work better
[00:55] <in_deep_thought> I have no idea why, sounds like it might work better though
[00:55] <in_deep_thought> but yeah if I can’t enter the bios on the machine I am trying to install on, I am kind of screwed anyways
[00:56] <daftykins> i can't say i understand mac disk naming enough to say what it would be on there
[00:56] <MrSavage> Chuck_Norris: You still there?
[00:57] <EriC^^> in_deep_thought: ok, not sure but i think it should be /dev/disk1
[00:57] <EriC^^> i think /disk1s2 means the second partition of disk1
[00:58] <EriC^^> not sure
[00:59] <pyrotix> So I can't update anything through the software updater. It keeps trying to tell me to check my internet connection. I tried a couple mirrors and this didn't change.  Trying "select best server" gave me a server in China which also did not work
[00:59] <pyrotix> ping -c3 archive.ubuntu.com works with no lost packets
[00:59] <daftykins> pyrotix: forget silly GUI updaters, "sudo apt-get update" in a terminal and pastebin it to us.
[01:00] <in_deep_thought> EriC^^: yes I think you’re correct. I will re-flash it or whatever its called. I still need to get to that bios however, hmmmm
[01:01] <c4pt> http://www.ebay.com/itm/181586874797?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
[01:03] <Ben64> hmm, seems c4pt uses this channel to advertise his ebay auctions since March 15, 2013
[01:03] <daftykins> :D
[01:03] <EriC^^> lol
[01:03] <daftykins> i highly doubt that guitar would run ubuntu
[01:07] <bubbasaures> whoa man.....the purple haze
[01:07] <in_deep_thought> ha, well it turns out my keyboard isn’t working. Might explain a lot
[01:09] <surfz^> hey all
[01:10] <surfz^> Firefox 34 on Ubuntu, I can't seem to find the Hello button to test the new Video Conference feature.
[01:10] <surfz^> Has anyone else had this problem?
[01:13] <MrSavage> which wine do you recommend for gaming?
[01:13] <MrSavage> I was told wine ppa is best
[01:13] <lyle> I have about 20 programs docked to my sidebar.  I do that to make it easier to launch  them.  Is there a better way?  Is Cinamon a good alternative?
[01:16] <OerHeks> MrSavage, carefull with ppa's, they can break something, and are unsupported here
[01:16] <bubbasaures> lyle, Cinnamon is only in 14.10 right now, not sure how it would be better, it is you're decision.
[01:21] <bubbasaures> lyle, Did you find the resize options on that leftbar for more icons seen without scrolling?
[01:21] <lyle> Bubba is there another way?
[01:23] <jmadero> hi all - is there a way to speed up the unity universal search, mine is tediously slow
[01:23] <bubbasaures> lyle, There are lots of ways more docks other desktops with more docks, using a search popup, really what you describe is a quest.
[01:24] <Yaazkal> Hi, I have installed an Epson MT-U22 printer on Ubuntu 14.04. If send a test page it prints, also if I print from Libre Office. But I print from gedit or the pdf reader it dosen't prints at all. If I test it from the terminal line with "ls > /usb/lp2" it also prints
[01:24] <Yaazkal> What to check? user is on the lp group
[01:25] <Yaazkal> Epson TM-U220 is the printer
[01:27] <MrSavage> i did apt-get install wine, how bad was that?
[01:27] <MrSavage> bubbasaures: I found out the reason why i couldn't install linux
[01:28] <bubbasaures> MrSavage, Cool, what was it?
[01:29] <bubbasaures> lyle, I like the cairo-dock as an extra place for icons, however I don't use unity
[01:29] <MrSavage> bubbasaures: I had 1 monitor plugged into my graphics card, and 1 monitor plugged into my mobo. It was making ubuntu freak out and it still does
[01:29] <MrSavage> bubbasaures: I haven't submitted the bug yet
[01:30] <MrSavage> I'm still trying to get ubuntu setup
[01:30] <MrSavage> well customized
[01:30] <bubbasaures> ah, the hidden variable  hehe heh
[01:31] <MrSavage> So is apt-get install wine a bad idea?
[01:31] <MrSavage> am i installing uneccsassary stuff?
[01:31] <bubbasaures> Good job though, that was hard work for you MrSavage
[01:31] <MrSavage> bubbasaures: it was easy, i installed it via uefi, the monitor bug was just wow
[01:32] <jmadero> MrSavage: either way it's not bad like Windows bad where you'll be left over with a ton of crap - it's easy enough to remove
[01:33] <bubbasaures> no fanboi tones there, lol
[01:33] <MrSavage> i have alot of stuff needed
[01:33]  * jmadero isn't ashamed at all :-b
[01:33] <MrSavage> I need to make a separate icon for IRSSI so it's not grouped with other terminals gnome-terminal --disable-factory --class term-red --name term-red --title Term-Red --window-with-profile=red -e '/home/virtual/Desktop/test1.sh'
[01:34] <jmadero> I really wish Unity prioritized locally installed software over anything else for the universal search - without that, it's about half as useful
[01:34] <MrSavage> and I need to somehow get IRSSI to play sounds when my name is said
[01:34] <MrSavage> also why can't the file browser remember my zoomed in levels for a folder? I want to view pictures at a very zoomied in level, but it keeps resetting and generating thumbnails
[01:34] <bubbasaures> well the ability to communicate clearly without bias is a developmental issue
[01:35] <EriC^^> jmadero: try super+a
[01:35] <jmadero> EriC^^: ah that's useful - but still would be best if it searched everything but just prioritized software over things like wiki
[01:35] <jmadero> bubbasaures: I see no reason to hide bias here
[01:35] <MrSavage> also how do i get the terminal title bar to show what directory i'm in or what program i'm running?
[01:35] <jmadero> and bias based on objective criteria isn't really bias
[01:36] <jmadero> anyhoo that's off topic
[01:36] <jmadero> EriC^^: thanks for that shortcut
[01:36] <EriC^^> MrSavage: i think you can set that in the profile
[01:36] <jmadero> EriC^^: do you know if I can default just super to that, and then have super+a to do an "all" search?
[01:36] <MrSavage> EriC^^: i tried look but it doesn't show
[01:37] <MrSavage> EriC^^: yeah it's not doing it
[01:37] <MrSavage> also i'm not really liking how it's hard to navigate multiple instances of a process
[01:37] <MrSavage> why doesn't 3 clicks on one icon in taskbar make it stay on window selection? It would've been ok
[01:38] <MrSavage> isntead it cancels window selection if you click too much
[01:38] <EriC^^> MrSavage: you could set the irssi profile to have irssi as a title, and set it to keep the initial title
[01:38] <MrSavage> EriC^^: I want my current viewed directory to show, along with the process currently running if there is one
[01:38] <MrSavage> EriC^^: It only says "Terminal"
[01:39] <EriC^^> MrSavage: change the initial title to Irssi
[01:39] <MrSavage> also another strange thing i noticed. I see an instance of filebrowser, i try clicking the instance on taskbar but it starts a new instance
[01:40] <MrSavage> EriC^^: But what if I'm using cd to get around and i'm doing terminal stuff? I want to differentiate the terminals i'm in
[01:40] <EriC^^> MrSavage: yeah that happens if you've opened an ext hdd with it
[01:40] <D3V> does ubuntu cover kubuntu aswell?
[01:40] <jmadero> D3V: you mean the chat?
[01:40] <D3V> yes
[01:40] <MrSavage> EriC^^: Is there a way so it doesn't do such an annoying bug like thing?
[01:40] <jmadero> most is the same outside of the DE, so probably ;)
[01:41] <D3V> its a plasma issue :|
[01:41] <jmadero> ah, maybe try #kde
[01:41] <MrSavage> EriC^^: I would rather have 1 icon instead of an icon for each of my 4 HDDs
[01:41] <MrSavage> takes up too much space
[01:41] <D3V> thanks
[01:41] <EriC^^> MrSavage: set irssi just for the profile you created for irssi
[01:41] <mori> is there any chances to repartition curently working Ubuntu system?
[01:41] <jmadero> mori: gparted
[01:41] <jmadero> with a live distro
[01:41] <jmadero> mori: highly recommended to backup
[01:41] <mori> will I lose my data?
[01:41] <bubbasaures> mori, Can you be exact in what you mean?
[01:41] <jmadero> mori: you shouldn't, but there's always a chance
[01:42] <EriC^^> jmadero: not sure how you could do that
[01:42] <MrSavage> EriC^^: Should I use mounts then to avoid the weird taskbar bug?
[01:42] <jmadero> mori: how is your current setup? All in one partition? Split home from root?
[01:42] <mori> yup
[01:42] <jmadero> yup what?
[01:43] <mori> default partitioning provided by ubunt installer
[01:43] <jmadero> mori: ah, if you ever redo it, probably best to split it up
[01:43] <jmadero> saves a lot of pain
[01:43] <jmadero> or at least that's my experience
[01:44] <mori> is there any guide showing how to partition "in a right way", swap, home ,/, boot and so on
[01:44] <jmadero> mori: you'll get a ton of opinions about what is right and wrong
[01:45] <jmadero> mori: but generally I just separate home from root always
[01:45] <EriC^^> MrSavage: what do you mean by mounts?
[01:45] <mori> jmadero, i see
[01:45] <jmadero> mori: I can format and reinstall everything with all configuration ready to go in about 25 minutes using a script
[01:45] <EriC^^> MrSavage: manually mounting it?
[01:45] <MrSavage> EriC^^: Using /mnt/
[01:45] <jmadero> others split boot also - I haven't found that to be useful personally
[01:46] <MrSavage> EriC^^: So I trick unity into thinking it's accessing my computer and not whatever device. So when i click filebrowser IT THEN ACTUALLY GOES TO THE OPEN FILE BROWSER AND NOT MERELY OPEN A NEW INSTANCE.
[01:46] <MrSavage> seriously, that's ridiculous
[01:46] <jmadero> mori: if you just google "separate home root partition ubuntu" you'll find plenty of blogs and how tos
[01:46] <jmadero> mori: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/installseparatehome
[01:46] <mori> jmadero, tyvm
[01:46] <bubbasaures> there is a ubuntu wiki on that
[01:48] <EriC^^> MrSavage: there's a workaround
[01:48] <MrSavage> EriC^^: which is?
[01:48] <EriC^^> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1170647/comments/61
[01:48] <MrSavage> maybe i should use a different file browser anyways? Since this file browser doesn't remember my zoom levels either
[01:50] <jmadero> MrSavage: set the zoom level in preferences
[01:50] <jmadero> else it reverts
[01:50] <jmadero> MrSavage: but in all honesty I think nemo browser is better than Nautilus - so if you're using a different one, maybe try that
[01:52] <mindless_chaos> I was having trouble finding nemo
[01:52] <MrSavage> jmadero: I only want the zoom to be remembered for ONE folder
[01:52] <MrSavage> for a certain folder
[01:52] <MrSavage> EriC^^: Thanks for the workaround
[01:52] <jmadero> ah, let me see if Nemo does that
[01:52] <jmadero> one minute
[01:52] <jmadero> MrSavage: nemo does that
[01:53] <jmadero> MrSavage: allows you to do list/icon view + zoom level, per folder
[01:53] <MrSavage> alright so do i do apt-get install nemo? I'm always unsure if i'm supposed to pick a certain thing
[01:53] <MrSavage> or if i'm installing apps right
[01:53] <jmadero> MrSavage: I believe it's nemo-browser
[01:53] <jmadero> sudo apt-get install nemo-browser
[01:54] <MrSavage> how do you find that/
[01:54] <MrSavage> the proper names for packages?
[01:54] <jmadero> ah no it's not
[01:54] <jmadero> sorry, it's nemo
[01:54] <jmadero> it's chromium-browser ;)
[01:54] <xangua> o_O nemo is a file browser, chromium is an internet browser
[01:55] <jmadero> indeed - but the -browser is unique to chromium ;)
[01:55] <jmadero> that was m ypoint
[01:55] <EriC^^> MrSavage: apt-cache search nemo
[01:55] <jmadero> because I think there is a game called chromium so that takes the package name "chromium"
[01:55] <hikenboot_> anyone have a working config for nbd?
[01:55] <jmadero> MrSavage: well google, or install synaptic and use the GUI
[01:56] <OerHeks> !info chromium-bsu
[01:56] <hikenboot_> the documentation on it is out of date, and I will be damned if i can figure out how it works
[01:57] <OerHeks> hikenboot_, why would you need it ?
[01:57] <hikenboot_> a little project of mine
[01:57] <jmadero> MrSavage: also over time you just pick up on options available - I have 5 DE's installed so I get to play around a lot :) each has its own file browser and all that
[01:58] <hikenboot_> cant figure out how it works. They changed the parameters and didnt update the docs
[01:58] <MrSavage> why does what's with file browsers and having a weird scroll bar?
[01:58] <MrSavage> jmadero: DE?
[01:58] <jmadero> MrSavage: mine isn't weird....maybe a theming thing?
[01:59] <jmadero> MrSavage: sorry, Desktop Environment
[01:59] <jmadero> MrSavage: default for Ubuntu is Unity, but I have 4 others installed, I switch between them whenever I start getting bored or want something different
[02:00] <hikenboot_> OerHeks, if you have one, it would be greatly appreciated
[02:00] <OerHeks> MrSavage, try unity-tweak
[02:00] <EriC^^> MrSavage: gsettings set com.canonical.desktop.interface scrollbar-mode normal
[02:00] <jmadero> EriC^^: what's that for?
[02:00] <EriC^^> set it to overlay-auto if you want it overlay again
[02:00] <EriC^^> jmadero: unity's scrollbar
[02:05] <DarkAceXtreme> what's the best way to run a program with its own new config folder? (instead of using its default usually located in ~ or ~/.config)
[02:10] <bubbasaures> DarkAceXtreme, That config is modified as you modify, it's not default unless you leave it that way in general.
[02:10] <MrSavage> brb
[02:12] <retroispresto> I'm running ubuntu 14.04.4
[02:12] <retroispresto> *8.04.04
[02:12] <retroispresto> woops
[02:12] <retroispresto> i'll pastebin it
[02:12] <jmadero> retroispresto: 8.04?
[02:12] <jmadero> that's incredibly EOL
[02:13] <retroispresto> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/9360644/
[02:13] <retroispresto> That is the md5sum.txt on my hardy cd
[02:13] <jmadero> retroispresto: is there a question somewhere that I missed?
[02:14] <EriC^^> ok..
[02:14] <retroispresto> ummm, yes! what are the minimum requirements to upgrade?
[02:15] <jmadero> retroispresto: well first off, I never recommend upgrading, vs. just starting fresh
[02:15] <zykotick9> retroispresto: i think, you should back up your data, and reinstall with something supported... YMMV
[02:15] <bubbasaures> retroispresto, About a weeks worth of survival supplies.
[02:15] <mindless_chaos> upgrade? From 8!? whoa, I'd clean install
[02:15] <jmadero> yes definitely
[02:15] <jmadero> retroispresto: I'd be shocked if you could upgrade all the way to 14.04 without breaking everything
[02:15] <jmadero> retroispresto: as for requirements: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[02:15] <mindless_chaos> damn I broke everything by upgrading from 12 to 13
[02:16] <jmadero> I break everything all the time ;) that's why I separate home from root
[02:16] <mindless_chaos> of course nothing was standard
[02:16] <jmadero> 14.10 was garbage on my system, fortunately only 30 minutes to be back to 100% functional with 14.04
[02:16] <mindless_chaos> yes yes, always have a partition for home
[02:16] <bubbasaures> okay okay the personal stories are off topic
[02:16] <jmadero> retroispresto: that have the info that you need?
[02:16] <retroispresto> what bubby said ^
[02:17] <retroispresto> "700 MHz processor (about Intel Celeron or better)"
[02:17] <jmadero> retroispresto: that link has the system specs, just probably backup to begin with because I doubt it'll work for you to upgrade
[02:17] <retroispresto> Impressive, my cpu is an intel celeron m
[02:17] <retroispresto> Lol
[02:17] <jmadero> retroispresto: how fast?
[02:17] <retroispresto> 700mhz
[02:17] <jmadero> retroispresto: would not recommend it
[02:18] <jmadero> I wouldn't recommend Ubuntu 8.04 either though
[02:18] <jmadero> retroispresto: try something lighter
[02:18] <mindless_chaos> download and run it in live CD and see how it does
[02:18] <mindless_chaos> DSL
[02:18] <mindless_chaos> ?
[02:18] <jmadero> it'll run but it'll be tediously slow
[02:18] <jmadero> I've run 12.10 on a 750mhz machine before, it ran but wasn't fun
[02:19] <jmadero> retroispresto: look for light weight distros, you can find some based on ubuntu that are pretty snappy
[02:19] <mindless_chaos> how about LXLE?
[02:20] <jmadero> or Bodhi ;) my preference, requires 300 mhz
[02:20] <bubbasaures> jmadero, Bro, you jump on any post and 3/4 or more of your response is your life story, all while whom your addressing just sits there no answer.
[02:20] <MrSavage> How can I get unity to snap and resize windows into a grid of 4?
[02:20] <jmadero> bubbasaures: I thought that was on point "bro" - please don't call me that btw
[02:20] <retroispresto> oki
[02:20] <bubbasaures> this is support
[02:21] <jmadero> bubbasaures: I suggested he try a lighter distro, gave him a suggestion based on his system
[02:21] <jmadero> I supported
[02:21] <jmadero> he replied "oki" -- seems like it added to the discussion bro
[02:21] <bubbasaures> jmadero, You also cannot reflect in any manner, you just defend, grow up.
[02:21] <jmadero> bubbasaures: thanks for not calling me bro
[02:22] <jmadero> retroispresto: all in all - you could try a live boot, it might work to your likings, else there are options out there for you
[02:22] <retroispresto> okay
[02:22] <retroispresto> thanks everyone
[02:23] <kostkon> retroispresto, xubuntu or lubuntu would be a sensible choice
[02:23] <jmadero> good luck :)
[02:23] <jmadero> kostkon: be careful room cop might say you're off topic
[02:23] <retroispresto> can i upgrade from ubuntu 8.04 to lubuntu 14.10?
[02:23] <jmadero> retroispresto: nah you'd have to start from scratch (backup remember)
[02:24] <bubbasaures> jmadero, Many others here have questioned you I'm just the only one directly.
[02:24] <mindless_chaos> I may be treading here, but I didn't see anything j* said that wasn't on topic....
[02:24] <jmadero> mindless_chaos: no need to defend me :) but thanks
[02:24] <jmadero> I know I didn't say anything off topic
[02:24] <mindless_chaos> retro* if you are going to eventually do a clean install of something, you might as well try, but backup everything, because more then likely it will break it
[02:24] <mindless_chaos> so much has changed from 8 until now...
[02:25] <retroispresto> okay
[02:25]  * mindless_chaos was just sayin, cuz he was confuse at what was going on.
[02:25] <retroispresto> I could download 10.04 and then 12.04?
[02:25] <jmadero> anyone have an opinion about NFS with streaming ?
[02:25] <jmadero> in another room someone said NFS "wasn't designed for streaming" and that's what's causing my issues . . . I can't find evidence of this claim
[02:25] <mindless_chaos> like I said, you could try, but your better off backing up and clean install
[02:25] <retroispresto> thanks
[02:26] <mindless_chaos> are you familiar with live cd?
[02:26] <jmadero> mindless_chaos: he/she left
[02:26] <mindless_chaos> most distro's have that now, which means ..... the wall is a good listener....
[02:27] <bmercer> I just want you all to know that this fucking shitty software overwrote an entire disk instead of installing over windows 7 like the installer said
[02:28] <EriC^^> bmercer: did you press reinstall ubuntu?
[02:28] <mindless_chaos> then you did something wrong, or there was something wrong with your MBR to begin with
[02:28] <mindless_chaos> or that..
[02:28] <xangua> installing over windows 7 sounds like installing OVER windows 7 as you said bmercer
[02:28] <bmercer> yes, except it installed a separate disk I had in my machine
[02:29] <mindless_chaos> oh, then it may not have overwrote windows, just didn't add it to grub
[02:29] <mindless_chaos> you just have to fix your windows MBR
[02:29] <bmercer> no, it was supposed to overwrite windows, and overwrote my other disk instead
[02:29] <mindless_chaos> oic
[02:29] <bmercer> my data is gone, and the installer is stupid
[02:29] <EriC^^> bmercer: how do you know that
[02:29] <jmadero> and how is that a support question
[02:30] <EriC^^> bmercer: which disk are you booting in the bios?
[02:30] <mindless_chaos> if it did indeed overwrite you can probably still recover a majority of files
[02:30] <EriC^^> yeah ^^
[02:31] <mindless_chaos> no doubt the installation was smaller then what was there
[02:32] <mindless_chaos> I have seen it happen before, but wont promis, but I have created the same size partition in the same place, and not formated, and poof stuff was there, granted Ill stuff, but it was there
[02:32] <bmercer> it's not likely to happen, what it overwrote was setup with fdisk, *and* disklabel
[02:33] <bmercer> and... it was an ssd
[02:33] <jmadero> you can still recover it - it's not fun to do but it's possible
[02:33] <mindless_chaos> unless you specify to over write blocks, it will not erase, just overwirte where it needs, but not all
[02:33] <jmadero> bmercer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[02:34] <k2gremlin> I really love how easy it is to update Ubuntu Server :)
[02:34] <bmercer> yes, off to restore from backups
[02:34] <jmadero> bmercer: it takes a lot to actually delete data, when you format you're really not deleting anything, it only tells the system "you can write over these blocks if you need to"
[02:35] <jmadero> ah that's better ;)
[02:35] <jmadero> glad you have those
[02:35] <mindless_chaos> **** has backups and is *&#&$#
[02:35] <mindless_chaos> sheesh
[02:35] <jmadero> what's the proper rsync command if I don't want to preserve ownership/permissions
[02:35] <mindless_chaos> just popped in to complain i see
[02:36] <jmadero> was pretty obvious at the beginning ;)
[02:37] <mindless_chaos> he had to have something hinkey with his hardware if the installer decided the other disk was appropriate
[02:38] <jmadero> mindless_chaos: I'm sure the problem was the person sitting in the chair, but you never want to say that - especially after loss of data which is no fun
[02:38] <jmadero> mindless_chaos: and let's not forget the huge warning about backing up before the installer even lets you move forward
[02:38] <mindless_chaos> HAHA
[02:39] <retroispresto> i'm going to try upgrading to 12.04.5 after the iso is done downloading and i burn it to usb
[02:39] <mindless_chaos> did you backup?
[02:39] <retroispresto> yus
[02:40] <mindless_chaos> have at it hos
[02:40] <jmadero> retroispresto: I'll be really curious about how that goes - please report back once you're done
[02:40] <jmadero> for future support reference
[02:40] <retroispresto> okay
[02:41] <retroispresto> there is a possibility it might not give me the 'upgrade' option o.o
[02:41] <mindless_chaos> Yes, but if it breaks, you should as suggested before, that when you clean install you make a partition to mount your home directory.
[02:41] <jmadero> retroispresto: I'm just curious why you're doing it this way to begin with vs. the clean install, but so is your right to try ;)
[02:42] <xangua> retroispresto: it will not, 100%
[02:42] <xangua> also you were told about Lubuntu already, instead of Ubuntu
[02:42] <mindless_chaos> because if you ever break it again, you can install clean, then mount your home and update in fstab so it mounts at boot
[02:43] <jmadero> does a cd/usb install even offer an upgrade option? I've never seen that
[02:43] <mindless_chaos> yeah I believe so
[02:44] <mindless_chaos> yes it does, because b4 I installed 14.04 I broke 13 by upgrading
[02:44] <mindless_chaos> but it was expected
[02:45] <mindless_chaos> it should ask you if you want to upgrade if it detects an ubuntu installation present
[02:46] <retroispresto> my crummy connection speed is downloading at 135kb/sec .-.
[02:46] <IbsinRG> Evening all
[02:46] <jmadero> retroispresto: that's not too bad - what about 1 hour?
[02:46] <IbsinRG> I really, really, really would love some help on some descion making here
[02:46] <jmadero> IbsinRG: hi there
[02:46] <jmadero> IbsinRG: be prepared for a thousand opinions if it's a subjective thing ;)
[02:47] <IbsinRG> I, no matter what I try, cannot seem to stick with one distro. I've tried ubuntu, ubuntu Gnome, Deepin, Mint, Cruncbang, Kubuntu, Fedora, openSUSE.
[02:47] <IbsinRG> I want to just find one and stay with it DX
[02:47] <jmadero> that really comes down to personal preference
[02:48] <retroispresto> Oh god
[02:48]  * retroispresto hides
[02:48] <jmadero> IbsinRG: suggest ubuntu-offtopic
[02:48] <somsip> IbsinRG: this is looking like an offtopic issue. Is this anything to do directly with ubuntu support?
[02:48] <jmadero> I think that's the room
[02:48] <daftykins> IbsinRG: that's nice but it's not an ubuntu support question
[02:48] <castiel> debian ist top, also Archelinux
[02:48] <IbsinRG> Nope, how do I get to offtopic?
[02:48] <daftykins> #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:48] <somsip> IbsinRG: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:48] <jmadero> same way you got here just join that one
[02:49] <mindless_chaos> heres the solution.. get a bunch of usb pen drives, install each distro directly to USB drive. Then just plug in which you want to use, and select to boot from usb
[02:49] <castiel> lol
[02:49] <retroispresto> ^ what mindless_chaos said except with sd cards
[02:49] <retroispresto> lol
[02:50] <mindless_chaos> I'd type it out for you, but I don't want to go to off topic....
[02:50] <daftykins> except you can't always boot SD cards
[02:50] <daftykins> and they'd all be slow and die
[02:50] <mindless_chaos> you can if you have the SD card in a usb card reader
[02:50] <castiel> +1
[02:51] <daftykins> nope, that's system dependant
[02:51] <mindless_chaos> I have a key ring, with 4 key chain USB drives, each with a distro on it
[02:51] <castiel> mandrake still exist?
[02:51] <daftykins> not for years i don't think
[02:51] <daftykins> it became mandriva then... who knows
[02:51] <mindless_chaos> oh man, i remember mandrake
[02:51] <castiel> xD
[02:51] <retroispresto> mandrake? <3ed it
[02:52] <mindless_chaos> that's the first distro I ever used
[02:52] <daftykins> !ot
[02:52] <daftykins> take it elsewhere guys.
[02:52] <retroispresto> <3 ubuntu more tho
[02:52] <castiel> i start on mandrake take me week to get sound
[02:53] <retroispresto> !ot
[02:54] <castiel> only leave this http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=openmandriva
[02:54]  * retroispresto puts aerosol on his hands so when he picks his nose he smells nice 
[02:54] <castiel> Official mandriva is private and paid now
[02:55] <creatorb> btw what new's about ubuntu 15? :D
[02:55] <darkelfjuggalo> I am trying to use a USB Headset for my music on my Ubuntu 14.04 laptop... is there a specific Driver I need o get, or is it just something i have to enable?
[02:55] <daftykins> creatorb: find the page about it
[02:55] <jmadero> darkelfjuggalo: you'd have to give a lot more info than what you provided....
[02:55] <jmadero> darkelfjuggalo: model?
[02:56] <creatorb> daftykins: hahaha sure, maybe someone interest for discuss than discuss about something else xD
[02:56] <retroispresto> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/10/ubuntu-15-04-named-vivid-vervet
[02:57] <daftykins> creatorb: what's that in English?
[02:57] <mindless_chaos> I had better dig through my big tote of old stuff and find retro* a p3 1g cpu
[02:57] <MrSavage> for some after one of my reboots, i broke the sound. I hear the drum sound when ubuntu is loaded but when i login there's no sound
[02:57] <mindless_chaos> is it muted?
[02:57] <mindless_chaos> hardware muted?
[02:58] <MrSavage> no
[02:58] <MrSavage> I think not?
[02:58] <MrSavage> doesn't show muted top right
[02:58] <mindless_chaos> laptop of destop?
[02:58] <darkelfjuggalo> the headset is plantronics... I don't have the case anymore... they were used for Work on winblows computers, but i no longer have that job
[02:58] <mindless_chaos> usb or phono plug
[02:59] <retroispresto> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/02/ubuntu-debian-switching-systemd
[02:59] <retroispresto> crap
[02:59] <MrSavage> mindless_chaos: desktop
[03:00] <retroispresto> Tm_T?
[03:00] <MrSavage> mindless_chaos: I fixed it. I had to select the sound device in sound settings
[03:00] <MrSavage> How can I make a sound device default?
[03:00] <retroispresto> Who is he? o.o
[03:02] <mindless_chaos> ltimedia Systems Selector
[03:02] <mindless_chaos> mltimedia Systems Selector.
[03:02] <mindless_chaos> search for it
[03:02] <MrSavage> how can i change my default file browser?
[03:02] <MrSavage> where firefox actually obeys the rule?
[03:03] <mindless_chaos> and select which audio source you want as default...
[03:03] <retroispresto> sudo apt-get purge xorg
[03:03] <retroispresto> actually don't do ^
[03:03] <darkelfjuggalo> Ok, SO improved question; how do I test to see if I have a Digital Audio Output? If I do, How will I enable it?
[03:03] <castiel> can install win98 in virtual box, only for see the  Insert CD-Rom Blue Scren?
[03:03] <mindless_chaos> in default apps in settings
[03:04] <bubbasaures> castiel, Two more relevant channels #vbox ##windows
[03:04] <MrSavage> mindless_chaos: : I don't see default apps in settings
[03:04] <castiel> it was a joke
[03:05] <creatorb> retroispresto: nice one...
[03:05] <creatorb> daftykins: :?
[03:05] <daftykins> yes?
[03:05] <creatorb> darkelfjuggalo: are you have been try to reboot with headset stay plugged?
[03:06] <bynarie> no get it right its draftkins
[03:06] <mindless_chaos> go in settings, click details, then click default programs
[03:06] <daftykins> oh grow up, children
[03:06] <rickb> hello, having an annoying issue with iptables. http://pastebin.com/ytBa0nCy <-- my rules, everything works as expected but I cannot use apt-get, ping out, access the internet from the machine, all other resources work just fine. Any ideas?
[03:06] <darkelfjuggalo> Createorb ; no, I have never tried using this on my linux before so i didn't know it might be required... I will try now and come back
[03:07] <mindless_chaos> well it's off to bed...
[03:14] <creatorb> darkelfjuggalo: so?
[03:14] <pifbits> I'm having a problem with youtube.com turning off my laptop monitor when I try to watch a vid.  I can watch YT vids on other sites, and don't have the problem watching any other vids period.  I have to reboot to get my monitor to come back on.
[03:15] <darkelfjuggalo> Nope, still playing out main speakers
[03:18] <reisio> pifbits: mmmm, is that youtube with "HTML5" video, or Flash?
[03:18] <pifbits> seems like it's HTML5
[03:18] <reisio> '"HTML5"' :p
[03:20] <pifbits> Did youtube change something recently? I've never had this problem b4.
[03:21] <pifbits> I can't narrow down the problem if I can watch YT vids on other sites but not the site itself
[03:22] <reisio> mmm, probably more to do with your browser/power manager/graphics driver/etc.
[03:23] <pifbits> There were a few flash updates that ubuntu push out recently.. and Google Chrome updates
[03:25] <pifbits> oops
[03:30] <MrMonkey311> hi guys... can anyone tell me which files are NOT a good idea to pastebin, if asking for support? is there something in linux that I'm better off keeping private? config file-wise?
[03:30] <reisio> MrMonkey311: stuff in ~/
[03:30] <reisio> regardless of user
[03:30] <reisio> so that's /home/ and /root/ (does Ubuntu use /root/ ?)
[03:31] <reisio> wherever root's ~/ is
[03:31] <MrMonkey311> reisio: rly? why is that?
[03:31] <reisio> and if it's a server, a lot of things in /etc/ _can_ be sensitive
[03:31] <reisio> MrMonkey311: that's just where personal data is kept
[03:31] <reisio> ssh keys :) goat porn :) other things
[03:32] <reisio> you don't need to memorize paths, though
[03:32] <reisio> if it has something that ties the data to you, don't post it
[03:32] <allen_> can anyone help with a opengl driver issue, i am loading a game via play on linux and it says i have no 32bit or 64 bit opengl drivers installed so my game probably won't play
[03:32] <allen_> i don't recall installing them manually before
[03:33] <MrMonkey311> ohhhh well I was only asking re: things that I wouldn't /know/ were tied to me or my system. but point taken!
[03:33] <reisio> well you gotta at least skim stuff :)
[03:33] <reisio> there's no substitute for reading, alas
[03:33] <reisio> if you're rushed, you can do something like
[03:34] <MrMonkey311> reisio: but nothing like getting hacked through the secrets that your xorg.conf has revealed I take it
[03:34] <reisio> egrep -i 'username|realFirstName|realLastName|pr0n|goat' path/to/file
[03:34] <reisio> and it'll tell you if those strings occur in it
[03:34] <reisio> don't um, don't grep for your password, though :)
[03:34] <reisio> and don't save passwords in plain text :D
[03:34] <reisio> MrMonkey311: unheard of :)
[03:35] <reisio> a xorg.conf could... I mean it could indicate where, for example, a VNC password file is
[03:35] <reisio> BUT
[03:35] <reisio> VNC is already insecure by default
[03:35] <reisio> and everyone knows where those files tend to be kept anyways
[03:35] <reisio> and they'd still need access to your system
[03:35] <reisio> at which point they wouldn't need VNC access :p
[03:36] <HugoNascimento> \list
[03:38] <crc_> I added a vpn connection to network manager but clicking on it does nothing.  syslog shows nothing as if the network manager makes no attempt to connect. Why am I seeing no log activity?
[03:46] <crc_> I added a vpn connection to network manager but clicking on it does nothing.  syslog shows nothing as if the network manager makes no attempt to connect. Why am I seeing no log activity?
[03:47] <pifbits> Ok.. back with my youtube.com problem again.. Only happens in Google Chrome but not firefox.  B4 I try an uninstall/reinstall could there be a something I need to tweek?
[03:48] <testing1122> Yea, use Linux
[03:48] <testing1122> Er, I mean, Windows
[03:48] <testing1122> you know
[03:48] <testing1122> a real os
[03:48] <D3V> >.>
[03:48] <slide> How can I see whats causing my load average to go up? It is not the cpu usage.
[03:48] <D3V> top
[03:49] <testing1122> sudo reboot
[03:49] <slide> helpful
[03:49] <testing1122> :)
[03:49] <testing1122> rm -rf /proc
[03:49] <pifbits> no reason to get my computer drunk right now.
[03:49] <testing1122> smash it with a hammer
[03:51] <daftykins> testing1122: grow up, please.
[03:53] <D3V> does anyone know of a good tutorial of setting up twm?
[03:54] <testing1122> D3V. Install windows
[03:54] <reisio> uh
[03:54] <reisio> install, run
[03:54] <reisio> it's not the most configurable/featureful wm
[03:55] <D3V> besides a blank screen I think its worth it
[03:55] <reisio> sure
[03:55] <D3V> and testing1122 I lost touch with windows when they went to crappy metro
[03:55] <daftykins> testing1122: leave.
[03:56] <testing1122> Just use internet explorer to manage your windows
[03:56] <arun_> guys, any idea on repairing a fat32 file system in linux?
[03:58] <daftykins> arun_: bad idea. what's going on?
[03:59] <reisio> arun_: fsck
[03:59] <Nothing_Much> Question, why does ubuntu's repo have incredibly outdated drivers for GPUs?
[04:00] <daftykins> they're not even vaguely 'outdated', plus they're verified more for stability
[04:08] <mesaboogie1> heya does' anyone want to skype me? pm me
[04:09] <testing1122> no
[04:09] <testing1122> Can i have OP please?
[04:09] <Striking71> Hey all. I suspect that one of 3 hard disks I have may be faulty. What's a good diagnostic tool to check?
[04:10] <testing1122> rm -rf
[04:10] <testing1122> dd is good too
[04:10] <Striking71> Thanks testing1122. I'll get *right* on that.
[04:11] <testing1122> Good
[04:12] <Ben64> !behelpful | testing1122
[04:12] <Ben64> Striking71: how do you suspect it is faulty
[04:12] <hggdh> testing1122: please stop
[04:12] <testing1122> !behelpful | hggdh
[04:13] <testing1122> !offtopic
[04:13] <testing1122> !guidelines
[04:13] <testing1122> !warn
[04:13] <testing1122> !behelpful | !behelpful
[04:14] <Striking71> Ben64 I have a raid5 with 3 disks and it got corrupted
[04:15] <Striking71> Ben64 this is actually a friend's system. He had it "recovered" by a local shop before I could get to it
[04:15] <Ben64> Striking71: ooh, i don't know much about raid. normally i would check logs for IO errors, check smart data, fsck
[04:15] <Striking71> so I don't have specific error messages and didn't get a chance to check logs and the like before it was messed with
[04:15] <Striking71> Yeah, I just found a post about smartctl on the ubuntu forums
[04:16] <Striking71> I'm trying that out
[04:16] <Ben64> although SMART says my drive is fine, but it is just about dead
[04:16] <Ben64> so i wouldn't rely on that
[04:16] <Ben64> currently ddrescue'ing at a whopping 16K/s read speed
[04:19] <reisio> smart is utterly useless :)
[04:19] <reisio> no matter what it says, your actions will be unchanged
[04:20] <reisio> it could be theoretically useful if you have a ridiculous amount of drives
[04:20] <reisio> if you were google or the like
[04:20] <reisio> but even then only the quickest test would be worth the time
[04:20] <MrSavage> Hi all
[04:20] <reisio> and on that level, you're probably replacing old drives with new ones before they're even broken
[04:20] <reisio> MrSavage: heyo
[04:21] <MrSavage> I'm wondering why is it that when I scroll it scrolls what I don't want? In terminal I get a scroll of previous commands instead of the actual terminal buffer
[04:21] <MrSavage> in xchat, i get a scroll of the text input as well, but not the buffer of the chat
[04:21] <MrSavage> why is this happening?
[04:22] <reisio> MrSavage: ...using a touchpad?
[04:22] <MrSavage> reisio: no
[04:22] <MrSavage> but i did install imwheel
[04:22] <MrSavage> due to scrollspeed being so slow
[04:22] <reisio> maybe it needs more configuring
[04:23] <Striking71> Ben64 I used the "badblocks" command but it took forEEEEEVER so I interrupted it
[04:23] <MrSavage> reisio: I don't know how to configure it
[04:23] <reisio> dpkg -L imwheel
[04:24] <reisio> Striking71: also pointless
[04:24] <zivester> hah i updated xubuntu to 14.10 and all my windows are purple... is that normal?
[04:24] <reisio> why spend time on something that is already broken
[04:24] <reisio> it's not a human being
[04:24] <reisio> replace it
[04:24] <daftykins> why do we always get people running badblocks o0
[04:24] <reisio> more time than sense
[04:24] <daftykins> Striking71: who told you to run it?
[04:24] <Striking71> resio - because of the 3 drives only 1 may be bad
[04:24] <Striking71> Or none
[04:24] <Striking71> daftykins: nobody, I'm sort of driving blind
[04:25] <Striking71> I'm new to data recovery and raids
[04:25] <reisio> Striking71: doesn't matter
[04:25] <reisio> your time is not worth knowing which is bad
[04:25] <reisio> replace them all
[04:25] <reisio> you'll need more drives eventually anyways
[04:25] <daftykins> Striking71: install smartmontools and run "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdX" on each disk, the SMART data should show up pretty easily which is bad
[04:27] <imastupidguest> I have an issue with how content is displayed on the command line. Not sure if I need to run ls with different options, configure something, create alias(es), or some combination thereof. Any help would be appreciated.
[04:27] <imastupidguest>  --> Order in which contents are displayed with ls on the command line...
[04:27] <imastupidguest>    * Currently, ls -al displays hidden files mixed in with non-hidden folders
[04:27] <imastupidguest>    * Workflow need : Display files before folder, display hidden before non hidden
[04:28] <Striking71> resio - I'm sort of strapped for cash so I'd rather only replace the drives that are bad. Besides, this is valuable stuff to learn
[04:28] <Striking71> daftykins: thanks, will do
[04:28] <daftykins> also never run RAID 5 with 3 disks again
[04:29] <imastupidguest> I would like the order (starting at the top) to go : hidden files, hidden dirs, non-hidden files, non-hidden dirs (if possible)
[04:29] <imastupidguest> excuse me...
[04:29] <imastupidguest> hidden files, non-hidden files, hidden dirs, non-hidden dirs
[04:30] <imastupidguest> I'm using gnome-terminal
[04:31] <Striking71> daftykins: Why is that?
[04:31] <daftykins> 3 is the minimum and is a bad move
[04:32] <Striking71> daftykins: What is bad about it? I figured it wouldn't be the minimum if it wasn't a good idea
[04:34] <f00dMonsta> help, I cannot load *some* websites
[04:34] <SuperStink> ood
[04:35] <imastupidguest> f00dMonsta: What browser are you using?
[04:36] <f00dMonsta> I've tried chrome, chromium, firefox
[04:36] <f00dMonsta> imastupidguest: I've tried chrome, chromium, firefox
[04:36] <imastupidguest> f00dMonsta: There could be some content settings in the browser (not sure) have you checked that in the browser's preferences?
[04:37] <f00dMonsta> imastupidguest: I've tried clearing everything
[04:37] <imastupidguest> f00dMonsta: Not just clearing cookies or history, but settings which limit the type of content (like parental controls)
[04:39] <imastupidguest> f00dMonsta: I didn't think they were set by default, but I could be wrong about that. It's where I would check first
[04:39] <f00dMonsta> imastupidguest: it was working perfectly fine last night... and for the past year
[04:40] <imastupidguest> f00dMonsta: I see. Have you tried pinging one of the sites you're having trouble with?
[04:40] <imastupidguest> f00dMonsta: If you would like, I'm willing to try to go to one of the url in my browser to see if it loads for me (also)
[04:41] <imastupidguest> ie: troublshooting
[04:41] <techrat> I am not sure if this would be ubuntu related but my flux doesnt work on Ubuntu dual screen. Any ideas?
[04:41] <techrat> It only works in one screen
[04:42] <ponA> hey guys, i installed ubuntu 14.04 LTS on my other machine and i want to use it without a monitor connected. i tried remote desktop but xrdp did not work with unity so i installed team viewer and set it up for LAN connections only
[04:43] <reisio> techrat: need ye the xinerama/xrandr support
[04:43] <union-hive> ponA: you should just ssh into and terminal command everything
[04:43] <f00dMonsta> imastupidguest: I can't ping live.com, can you try? because some servers block icmp packets
[04:43] <ponA> the problem is, that the window is rather small, how do i setup a higher standard resolution?
[04:43] <reisio> techrat: and/or a graphics driver/config to match
[04:43] <union-hive> using a remote desktop is over taxing and using a lot of resources sometimes
[04:44] <techrat> reisio: xrandr support as in apt-get install xrandr ?
[04:44] <reisio> techrat: likely not
[04:44] <ponA> i know i can do it with ssh but for some tasks it seems rather inconvenient
[04:45] <techrat> reisio: Oh looks like I already have xrandr
[04:45] <imastupidguest> f00dMonsta: It loads for me but redirects to a login page, specifically : https://login.live.com/login.srf?wa=wsignin1.0&rpsnv=12&ct=1417668295&rver=6.4.6456.0&wp=MBI_SSL_SHARED&wreply=https:%2F%2Fmail.live.com%2Fdefault.aspx%3Frru%3Dinbox&lc=1033&id=64855&mkt=en-us&cbcxt=mai
[04:46] <ponA> e.g. i tried to change the ip address to static and it would have taken me a lot of time to figure out how it really changes a thing using ssh+terminal, then i ended up using the gui and everything worked fine in seconds...
[04:46] <techrat> reisio: although I do not have xinerama
[04:46] <f00dMonsta> imastupidguest: ok suddenly that works now. But the more important one: https://console.aws.amazon.com/console/home?nc1=h_m_mc
[04:46] <imastupidguest> f00dMonsta: Has anything changed in your firewall settings? (this would be a bit over my head but perhaps someone here could work w/ you on it - if need be)
[04:46] <ponA> but back to topic, how do i setup a higher standard resolution for the desktop?
[04:46] <f00dMonsta> imastupidguest: I turned it off to see if it helps
[04:47] <imastupidguest> f00dMonsta: Yes, that latter link loads for me. It redirects to a login page, specifically : https://www.amazon.com/ap/signin?openid.assoc_handle=aws&openid.return_to=https%3A%2F%2Fsignin.aws.amazon.com%2Foauth%3Fresponse_type%3Dcode%26client_id%3Darn%253Aaws%253Aiam%253A%253A015428540659%253Auser%252Fhomepage%26redirect_uri%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fconsole.aws.amazon.com%252Fconsole%252Fhome%253Fnc1%253Dh_m_mc%2526state%253DhashArg
[04:47] <imastupidguest> thcode%253Dtrue%26noAuthCookie%3Dtrue&openid.mode=checkid_setup&openid.ns=http%3A%2F%2Fspecs.openid.net%2Fauth%2F2.0&openid.identity=http%3A%2F%2Fspecs.openid.net%2Fauth%2F2.0%2Fidentifier_select&openid.claimed_id=http%3A%2F%2Fspecs.openid.net%2Fauth%2F2.0%2Fidentifier_select&action=&disableCorpSignUp=&clientContext=&marketPlaceId=&poolName=&authCookies=&pageId=aws.ssop&siteState=unregistered%2Cen_us&accountStatusPolicy=P1&sso=&o
[04:47] <imastupidguest> red_auth_policies=MultifactorPhysical&openid.pape.max_auth_age=120&openid.ns.pape=http%3A%2F%2Fspecs.openid.net%2Fextensions%2Fpape%2F1.0&server=%2Fap%2Fsignin%3Fie%3DUTF8&accountPoolAlias=&forceMobileApp=0&forceMobileLayout=0
[04:48] <f00dMonsta> imastupidguest: meh, something is wrong with my ubuntu then
[04:48] <imastupidguest> whoa - is a url supposed to be that long?
[04:48] <techrat> reisio: Were you talking about dual monitor or flux in specific? My dual monitor works fine but it's just that just one screen gets flux while the other doesn't
[04:48] <f00dMonsta> imastupidguest: just tried on a windows machine, and my phone... both works
[04:49] <MrSavage> Alright I'm getting issues with my ubuntu 14.04 on not being able to minimize openGL games
[04:49] <imastupidguest> f00dMonsta: I'll leave you to the experts then. Hope some of the troubleshooting helped
[04:49] <reisio> techrat: I mentioned other things :)
[04:49] <f00dMonsta> imastupidguest: i bet you if I load up a vm, it'll work :P
[04:50] <techrat> reisio: Oh other things as in making dual monitor work?
[04:51] <reisio> techrat: using nvidia?
[04:51] <f00dMonsta> imastupidguest: aww I was wrong, it doesn't work in a vm
[04:51] <techrat> reisio: I'm using intergrated GPU from intel
[04:52] <techrat> reisio: Intel HD graphics 4400
[04:53] <reisio> techrat: maybe arandr could help
[04:59] <link0_> good evening
[05:05] <MrSavage> woah
[05:05] <MrSavage> quite
[05:05] <ponA> any hints on how to set the standard resolution to a higher value (there is no screen connected, i connect via a remote desktop tool)?
[05:06] <ubuntuaddicted> howdy everyone, does anyone use a password manager and soemthing like syncthing or dropbox/drive?
[05:07] <ponA> i use keepass for that
[05:07] <ses1984> before lvm, if i wanted to upgrade the hard drive in my machine, i would pop in the new one,
[05:07] <ubuntuaddicted> ponA, ok, but keypass probably doesn't have an iOS client does it?
[05:07] <ses1984> dd if=old of=new
[05:07] <daftykins> ses1984: right...
[05:07] <ses1984> and if the new one was bigger i could resize partitions and file systems
[05:08] <ponA> minikeepass should do that
[05:08] <ses1984> is the process basically the same with lvm?
[05:08] <ponA> i chose keepass because it has android ios windows and linux clients
[05:09] <ponA> they arent all equally powerfull, but you can at least access the passwords
[05:10] <ubuntuaddicted> ponA, keepass sounds like the way to go. thanks
[05:16] <mozzarella> guys help
[05:17] <MrSavage> mozzarella: ?
[05:18] <mozzarella> MrSavage: I bought a new keyboard and I'd like to remap some stuff
[05:19] <MrSavage> mozzarella: To make it international?
[05:20] <mozzarella> MrSavage: no, apple keyboard, I want to swap option and command, as well as make the right option key a ctrl key
[05:21] <link0_> trash the apple keyboard...it has an nsa implant
[05:21] <MrSavage> link0_: are you actually serious?
[05:21] <explodes> When I have my torrents running for a while, and then I close my torrent client (wifi) I notice that a TON of requests to my computer's "torrent" port are still being forward. I have reason to suspect that this is the cause for a slow/spikey network connection. Is that safe to assume? Also, how do you fix or stop the issue?
[05:23] <ikeboy> I'm having a problem with grub settings; my system doesn't start unless I press enter, but I would like it to start automatically
[05:23] <ikeboy> also my os-prober stopped working
[05:24] <bubbasaures> ikeboy, Have you been messing with it?
[05:24] <ikeboy> no, just upgraded to 14.10 a while ago. i think the problems are from then
[05:24] <mozzarella> MrSavage: pls
[05:24] <ikeboy> I also had some boot problems around then that i needed to reinstall grub after
[05:25] <bubbasaures> ikeboy, What is the os-prober missing like OS's?
[05:25] <ikeboy> yes
[05:25] <bubbasaures> ikeboy, What other OS's?
[05:25] <ikeboy> I have windows and hackentosh on other partitions and drives which used to show up but don't now
[05:26] <ikeboy> but I can get to those with easybcd. My main problem is the timeout
[05:26] <bubbasaures> ikeboy, You're using easybcd to get to grub to get to ubuntu?
[05:26] <ikeboy> looking at grub custumizer right now shows "boot default entry after 10 seconds" but that doesn't happen
[05:27] <ikeboy> yes
[05:27] <link0_> ikeboy: check /etc/default/grub
[05:27] <bubbasaures> ikeboy, So you have using the customizer?
[05:27] <ikeboy> yes, but the options don't change
[05:28] <link0_> ikeboy: sudo update-grub
[05:28] <ikeboy> i did that
[05:28] <link0_> ikeboy: you manually edited /etc/default/grub?
[05:28] <ikeboy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9362439/
[05:30] <creatorb> ikeboy: change GRUB_TIMEOUT="10" to GRUN_TIMEOUT="3" for appears on 3 second #see line10
[05:30] <link0_> ikeboy: add GRUB_RECORDFAIL_TIMEOUT=0
[05:30] <ikeboy> if 10 doesn't work, why would 3?
[05:31] <link0_> ikeboy: then sudo update-grub
[05:31] <link0_> after saving
[05:31] <ikeboy> did that, I'll see on next reboot if it works
[05:32] <zivester> ugh why are ubuntu ulimit's set so low by default.. just fixed an issue i've been having with chrome for months.. and somehow my internet speed is faster now as well
[05:32] <ikeboy> in the meantime, I had an error unknown command "recordfail" and also loadvideo. Anyone know how to fix those or disable them?
[05:33] <ikeboy> i'm trying reboot now
[05:33] <link0_> ikeboy: 0 = disables the menu, boots right away, -1 = waits until you select entry (default behavior), XX = XX in seconds, waits for that amount of time
[05:34] <link0_> ikeboy: so GRUB_RECORDFAIL_TIMEOUT=10 would wait 10 seconds before auto booting
[05:34] <ikeboy> why are there more than 1 option for the same thing? What's GRUB_TIMEOUT?
[05:35] <Jarvix> is there a way to set a shut down timer for the system?
[05:36] <cynicallemon> Jarvix: man shutdown
[05:36] <Jarvix> kk ty
[05:40] <Jarvix> cynicallemon, , so:: shutdown -p +m120  ?
[05:41] <Jarvix> forgive me, i'm new to this
[05:42] <cynicallemon> try shutdown -hP 120
[05:42] <Jarvix> will that shut the pc off?
[05:42] <cynicallemon> yes
[05:42] <Jarvix> in 120
[05:42] <Jarvix> ty
[05:43] <Jarvix> how to delay it?
[05:43] <Jarvix> nm
[05:43] <cynicallemon> shutdown -c    will cancel
[05:43] <Jarvix> ty
[05:43] <Jarvix> cynicallemon, have a good night
[05:44] <mozzarella> guys help
[05:44] <cynicallemon> thx
[05:44] <link0_> ikeboy: it working?
[05:45] <semendemon> i removed nvidia-304 and installed nvidia-173 (it's for an arcade cabinet) but when trying to start X i get an error stating "nvidia kernel version is 173 but nvidia driver version is 304" does apt-get remove not remove the nvidia driver on mint/ubuntu?
[05:46] <creatorb> link0_: ikeboy still has not entered in room
[05:46] <link0_> creatorb: thanks
[05:48] <link0_> semendemon: try apt-get autoremove --purge
[05:48] <semendemon> apt-get remove 'nvidia-*' appears to have removed all nvidia drivers
[05:48] <semendemon> we good to go
[05:50] <SavKobani>  i tried installing xdm and xfce4 , but now when i startup the box it just goes to console login and when i type startx it looks like it did before without xdm
[05:53] <explodingmango> Hello, I have question about a built-in Linux kernel driver (if this the right place to ask).
[05:55] <explodingmango> There is a series of 3D navigation devices made by 3D Connexion which are supported by kernel drivers. The most basic model, the SpaceNavigator, works right out of the box. There's a more advanced model, SpacePilot, which also works for input, but it also has an LCD screen. My question is, is the SpacePilot's LCD screen also supported by the kernel driver?
[05:55] <explodingmango> And if no one knows, is there some resource where I can find out more about Linux's kernel drivers?
[05:57] <link0_> explodingmango: try http://lwn.net/Kernel/LDD3/
[06:06] <interweb> Hi , How can I install kde 5 on my ubuntu 14.10 ?
[06:08] <creatorb> link0_: okkay, i will left to workspace, when ikeboy coming said to him i have leave message like "no i mean alternative way, don't change to 3 second :v it's only sample, change to 0 for automatically boot on GRUB_DEFAULT="0" and set grub_default to os what do you want to boot"
[06:10] <link0_> creatorb: safe to say he messed something up since he isn't back yet? lol
[06:15] <creatorb> link0_: hahahah, maybe he has forgotten
[06:17] <ncaulfield> hellooo
[06:17] <ncaulfield> how does IRC work
[06:18] <link0_> magic
[06:18] <ncaulfield> lol
[06:18] <ncaulfield> this is pretty cool
[06:18] <link0_> its just like facebook
[06:18] <link0_> ;P
[06:18] <ncaulfield> super early facebook
[06:18] <mozzarella> guys help
[06:18] <link0_> yea but waste of time just like facebook lol
[06:18] <Prezident> #ubuntu-offtopic plz ncaulfield this is an helpchan.
[06:19] <mozzarella> I want to remap my right alt to a right ctrl
[06:21] <link0_> mozzarella: start xev in terminal...it waits for your input...press key you want to change
[06:22] <link0_> mozzarella: then repeat with other key
[06:22] <NeilG> Need help in keep runing a jar program even after quitting from ssh amazon box.
[06:22] <link0_> mozzarella: then run xmodmap
[06:23] <mozzarella> link0_: I tried keycode 108 = Control_R
[06:23] <mozzarella> doesn't work
[06:25] <link0_> mozzarella: did you do "xmodmap -e "keycode 108 = Control_R"
[06:25] <mozzarella> no I wrote a file instead
[06:25] <mozzarella> and did xmodmap file
[06:25] <link0_> mozzarella: what file? .xinitrc?
[06:26] <mozzarella> doesn't matter
[06:26] <mozzarella> .xmodmapawk
[06:40] <jetro> hey guys I just reinstalled ubuntu 14.04 on a machine that had two partitions, one with windows and one with ubuntu
[06:40] <jetro> I only see 1 partition now with ubuntu
[06:41] <jetro> I think the reinstall got rid of the windows partition?
[06:41] <jetro> Is there any way I can get windows back or recover my files?
[06:41] <tuxakadjseb> Your NTFS partition is it mounted ?
[06:41] <jetro> tuxakadjseb, what do you mean?
[06:42] <jetro> I am on the ubuntu os right now
[06:42] <jetro> and I used gparted to check my partitions
[06:42] <jetro> the windows one is gone
[06:42] <tuxakadjseb> Oups !
[06:42] <jetro> tuxakadjseb, I'm screwed?
[06:42] <tuxakadjseb> How many HDD have your computer ?
[06:43] <jetro> Just one
[06:43] <jetro> I have 1 HDD with windows and ubuntu on 2 different partitions
[06:43] <jetro> then I inserted the ubuntu cd to reinstall
[06:43] <jetro> the cd said that it detected an ubuntu installation, should it do a reinstall, and I said yes
[06:43] <mozzarella> guys
[06:44] <mozzarella> which mod key is right alt
[06:44] <jetro> I had no idea it was going to wipe everything out and then do the reinstall, I thought it would just reinstall on that partition
[06:44] <jetro> tuxakadjseb, can I run any data recovery programs to get back files?
[06:44] <jetro> I just need to get my python files
[06:44] <tuxakadjseb> I'm afraid you have lost your windows partition :-(
[06:45] <somsip> mozzarella: er...the alt key that's to the right of the spacebar
[06:45] <tuxakadjseb> Hey people, any idea to help jetro ?
[06:45] <jetro> tuxakadjseb, damn! Any way to recover the data? I just need to get python files back
[06:45] <mozzarella> somsip: I know
[06:45] <somsip> !recovery | jetro
[06:45] <somsip> mozzarella: maybe ask a better question then?
[06:45] <mozzarella> but it has a number
[06:45] <somsip> mozzarella: use xev
[06:45] <mozzarella> mod1, mod2, mod3, etc.
[06:46] <mozzarella> dude, it doesn't say
[06:46] <somsip> mozzarella: to be used in what program?
[06:46] <mozzarella> xmodmap
[06:46] <somsip> mozzarella: use the keycode reported by xev
[06:46] <mozzarella> I need the keysym
[06:46] <mozzarella> not the keycode
[06:47] <Ben64> xev tells you that
[06:47] <jetro> somsip, ubuntu is booting up normally, but windows is gone. I have one HDD, is it possible to use ubuntu to search for windows files that may still be on the HDD?
[06:47] <mozzarella> I have remapped my right alt already
[06:47] <mozzarella> can't see the keysym
[06:47] <Ben64> its right there where it says "keysym"
[06:47] <somsip> !undelete | jetro (unlikely, but you could look into these)
[06:48] <somsip> mozzarella: ie, keycode 133 (keysym 0xffeb, Super_L) on mine
[06:49] <mozzarella> sorry, keysym is not what I meant
[06:49] <mozzarella> the thing I must "clear"
[06:49] <mozzarella> e.g. clear Mod1
[06:50] <Ben64> you're not making a whole lot of sense
[06:51] <jetro> I'm screwed, I'm going to have to recode everything
[06:51] <jetro> Why the hell did that cd ask if I wanted to reinstall ubuntu and then go ahead and not ask me about partitions and wipe everything...
[06:51] <mozzarella> Ben64: trust me bro
[06:51] <mozzarella> I also find it confusing
[06:52] <Ben64> mozzarella: i'm not your bro, guy. it's not xmodmap that is confusing, it is your description of what you still need to do
[06:53] <mozzarella> Ben64: I have to "clear" the key function, but I'm not sure why
[06:53] <mozzarella> doesn't work if I don't
[06:54] <Ben64> mozzarella: pastebin what xev says when you press your new "right alt"
[06:54] <mozzarella> no, the alt key is fine, I need to remap the command key
[06:54] <somsip> mozzarella: use said right Alt earlier...
[06:54] <Ben64> jetro: sounds unlikely that it wouldn't tell you, maybe you clicked next without reading? you can use photorec to find files
[06:55] <Ben64> mozzarella: dude you need to explain much better what you want to do
[06:55] <mozzarella> yes, I need to remap the right command key to be a right alt key
[06:55] <mozzarella> I did keycode 134 = Alt_R
[06:55] <Ben64> ok, so why won't you pastebin what happens when you press it
[06:57] <mozzarella> http://fpaste.org/156474/17676262/
[06:58] <mozzarella> Ben64:
[07:00] <wldxy> .....
[07:00] <mozzarella> don't ellipsis me that way
[07:00] <Ben64> looks fine
[07:01] <mozzarella> indeed, it looks fine yet it still acts as a windows key
[07:01] <Ben64> ah now you explain
[07:03] <wldxy> why do not you chinese
[07:03] <Ben64> mozzarella: pastebin xmodmap -pm
[07:03] <Ben64> !cn | wldxy
[07:04] <wldxy> 0.0
[07:04] <mozzarella> Ben64: http://fpaste.org/156475/14176766/
[07:06] <Ben64> see it there under mod4? Alt_R (0x86)
[07:08] <mozzarella> Ben64: yeah
[07:08] <mozzarella> I still don't know what to do, though
[07:08] <Ben64> mozzarella: you need to reassign it, theres an example here https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/xmodmap
[07:13] <mozzarella> Ben64: doesn't work
[07:20] <mozzarella> why is it so hard
[07:29] <electricprism> I'm trying to log the output of a binary on TTY7 from TTY1, what command would I use? I tried $DIPLAY=:0 gala > /home/me/gala.log
[07:34] <sathish> hi
[07:34] <praveen_> sdf
[07:34] <sathish> hi
[07:34] <praveen_> sf
[07:34] <praveen_> hello
[07:35] <praveen_> sdfds
[07:35] <sathish> hi barat
[07:35] <praveen_> hi hih i i
[07:35] <sathish> well come
[07:35] <praveen_> hw r u
[07:35] <Ben64> praveen_, sathish: stop talking to yourself, this is not a chat channel, this is for ubuntu support only
[07:35] <somsip> !ot | this is not a chat channel
[07:37] <ThatMex> hello world
[07:38] <ThatMex> anybody recommends any video editing programs?
[07:38] <auronandace> ThatMex: i like openshot
[07:38] <somsip> ThatMex: cinelerra, lives
[07:39] <auronandace> !info openshot
[07:39] <ThatMex> ok which one would you recommend for somebody use to adobe premiere?
[07:40] <Guest43361> JOIN #radeon
[07:40] <ThatMex> has anybody used kdenlive? is it any good?
[07:44] <sonetea> ThatMex: haven't used it, but i hear it's great compared to every other linux video editor
[08:04] <mozzarella> pls
[08:04] <grosjean> o/
[08:13] <Laibsch> Hello, I'm moving my dm-crypt LVM from HD to SSD. I installed the SSD internally and put the HD in a USB enclosure.  I reboot and choose to boot from USB.
[08:13] <Laibsch> Grub comes up, I choose the boot entry that used to work flawlessly for me and then eventually the boot halts with "no volume groups found".
[08:13] <Laibsch> I tried adding "insmod usb" to the grub invocation but still no go.
[08:14] <Laibsch> I am never being asked for the passphrase of the encrypted LVM.  What's missing?
[08:14] <Laibsch> This is a Trusty installation.
[08:16] <rtur> Is /etc/environment the right place to set shell independent environment variables ? Or is it only for bash ?
[08:19] <EsoRotica> rtur wouldnt that be like.... ~/.bashrc?
[08:20] <rtur> EsoRotica: Normally yes, but I need to set it for many users and would prefer not to sed through their ~/.bashrc but some more global file. Best if it's one that would be sourced by most shells.
[08:21] <EsoRotica> I see. I know you could also modify the skel files, though that only solves it for new users, rtur
[08:22] <wiltors42> hello
[08:23] <wiltors42> users
[08:23] <wiltors42> oops
[08:23] <wiltors42> whats the command to list names of people in room
[08:23] <EriC^^> /names
[08:23] <wiltors42> thats a lot of names
[08:23] <EsoRotica> 1707 to be specific
[08:24] <wiltors42> i wonder how many are active
[08:24] <cfhowlett> wiltors42, ask your ubuntu support question
[08:25] <rtur> EsoRotica: Found it, I can create a file in /etc/profile.d/ and it should work too. And /etc/environment is ok env variables help.ubuntu says . Thanks.
[08:25] <EsoRotica> Sure thing, not sure that I was much help. GL Rtur
[08:30] <leslie1> hi guys  Is it possible to extend space for /dev/ampper/** ?
[08:51] <Wrestler> sss
[08:56] <Vespian> Hello.
[08:56] <Vespian> Anyone know anything about reading data from a serial device plugged into USB?
[08:56] <sgo11> hi, I am running ubuntu 14.04.1. I did "sudo apt-get update" "apt-get dist-upgrade" and then "do-release-upgrade". it returns "No new release found". why? I thought the latest version was 14.10. thanks.
[08:57] <DJones> sgo11: I suspect your update manager is set to only show LTS releases
[08:57] <bahamas> hello. can anyone recommend me a tool that allows me to edit the desktop wallpaper? I want to be able to update it constantly with text
[08:58] <sgo11> DJones, how to check that option? thanks.
[08:58] <DJones> sgo11: Just trying to remember where its set
[08:58] <sgo11> ok. thanks.
[08:58] <fidel_> bahamas: update it with text?
[08:59] <Vespian> http://pastebin.com/g7PDDszR
[08:59] <fidel_> if i interpret it right - you want to display a changing text as part of your desktop (or wallpaper) if so - take a look at conky
[08:59] <geirha> bahamas: imagemagick can add text on images
[08:59] <Vespian> Screen isn't showing ANY data from the SIM Card Reader.
[09:00] <fidel_> conky can display text as layer above your wallpaper/desktop
[09:01] <geirha> yeah conky is probably what you want
[09:01] <DJones> sgo11: Open up Software and updates, on the 3rd tab called updates, there is a tick box "Notify me of a new UBuntu version" probably says LTS only, that needs to be "For any new version"
[09:02] <bahamas> fidel_, geirha: basically I want to use the wallpaper as a reminder of things
[09:02] <sgo11> DJones, right, thanks. I set it to "Never". btw, why does ubuntu.com still recommend 14.04.1 LTS instead of 14.10 ? It didn't do this in previous LTS release. thanks.
[09:03] <Vespian> Anyone? http://pastebin.com/g7PDDszR
[09:03] <DJones> sgo11: Its probably recommended as LTS because it is LTS with longer support
[09:04] <fidel_> bahamas: check conky then
[09:06] <sgo11> DJones, in the page http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/ it recommends 14.04.1. From my memory, in the old days, it always recommends the latest version for desktop PC. I feel this is weird. does it mean 14.10 is not stable?
[09:06] <cfhowlett> sgo11, 9 months of support vs. 3 years.  do the math.
[09:07] <sgo11> cfhowlett, ok.
[09:08] <DJones> sgo11: I think thats just because a lot of users want long term stability and support (5 years with LTS) so they're recommended to use that, wheras the non-LTS releases are only supported for a short time and the user would have to upgrade within 9 months to keep getting support, not everybody wants the latest versions and has the time for regular upgrades
[09:08] <EriC^^> *5 years support
[09:08] <cfhowlett> sgo11, personal choice and pain tolerance question.  IMHO, LTS is optimized and polished for stability.  bleeding edge = bloody.
[09:08] <Vespian> Surely someone here knows about reading/writing from/to serial devices....
[09:09] <Vespian> http://pastebin.com/hQfEuGFE
[09:11] <sgo11> If I stay with 14.04.1 LTS and when 15.04 is out, can I directly upgrade the system from 14.04.1 to 15.04 with do-release-upgrade? or do I have to go through 14.04 --> 14.10 --> 15.04 ? thanks.
[09:12] <DJones> sgo11: 15.04 isn't LTS, so you'd have to go through 14.10
[09:12] <DJones> sgo11: LTS are only released every 2 years, 12.04, 14.04 and next one will be 16.04
[09:13] <sgo11> DJones, ok. what about upgrading to 16.04? do-release-upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 directly? or go though 14.04 -- 14.10 -- 15.04 -- ... -- 16.04 LTS ?
[09:14] <DJones> sgo11: You'll be able to upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 directly
[09:14] <Vespian> Only issue with major updates is that it can break a lot of programs. (
[09:14] <sgo11> DJones, that's cool. thanks a lot. :)
[09:14] <Vespian> :( *
[09:15] <Vespian> DJones: Do you know anything about reading from a serial device?
[09:15] <DJones> Vespian: Sorry, no
[09:15] <sgo11> Vespian, that's not cool then.. will it be safer in server upgrade?
[09:16] <Vespian> sgo11: Nothing that can be done about programs breaking... takes a while for developers to make it work for the new version of the OS.... which is why every major version update to the OS is given a label... for instance 14.10 is Utopic Unicorn
[09:17] <Vespian> And the version names are quite relevant when adding a PPA to the repository.
[09:17] <sgo11> Vespian, ok, cheers.
[09:19] <DJones> sgo11: Most people will probably stay with LTS releases for servers because it doesn't involve 4 updates and they can be more certain that anything running on it won't have issues with 4 different upgrades
[09:19] <Vespian> Anyone know why Cinnamon uses so much RAM? I have very few applets running in it and it's using 395 MB of RAM.
[09:20] <sgo11> DJones, ok. got it. my server will stay with LTS version and my desktop will update to 14.10 then. :)
[09:20] <Vespian> sgo11: Wise choice.
[09:20] <sgo11> Vespian, ^_^
[09:24] <Ankoran> anyone that can help me use a static ip with my usb wireless interface? i cannot seem to figure out how to do it im using ubuntu 14.04 lts
[09:25] <wildwind> Please point me to some good guides on setting up PXE environment. I want to have several Linux images on the server (different distros, releases, archs etc.) for testing purposes and clients on the network able to quickly boot any of them. For client, it should be the same experience as booting LiveCD.
[09:25] <cfhowlett> WildSoft, better asked in #ubuntu-server or #edubuntu
[09:26] <krzkrz> any reason why ps aux | grep cron is not returning anything significant?
[09:26] <krzkrz> shouldnt crond display as running in the bg?
[09:26] <Ankoran> what does ubuntu use for wireless config it doesnt seem to be using wpa_suppicant
[09:26] <Ankoran> keep trying to use /etc/network/interfaces to configure static but there was no previous entry for wlan0 in there
[09:28] <krzkrz> or does ubuntu use something else as its daemon for cron?
[09:29] <Neo31> hello guys, i wanna report a bug concerning locale configuration for my country :)
[09:29] <Vespian> Ankoran: Your question isn't about Ubuntu, but rather it is about your UI. Each UI uses a different application for wireless connection management.
[09:29] <cfhowlett> !bug | Neo31,
[09:30] <Vespian> Ankoran: By default, Ubuntu comes with Unity UI and GNOME UI
[09:30] <Vespian> Ankoran: I myself use Cinnamon UI.
[09:30] <Ankoran> yeah i have the default everything
[09:30] <Ankoran> i want to set a static ip with my wireless
[09:30] <Vespian> Ankoran: Okay, then are you using Unity or GNOME right now?
[09:30] <krzkrz> anyone?
[09:30] <qwerty_> asdf
[09:30] <Ankoran> whatever comes with the install of ubuntu
[09:30] <Ankoran> im guessing unity
[09:30] <krzkrz> what does ps aux | grep cron return for you guys?
[09:30] <Vespian> Ankoran: Both come with it.
[09:30] <krzkrz> do you see crond running?
[09:30] <Ankoran> i dont remember selecting anything
[09:31] <Vespian> Ankoran: Does your desktop look bare or does it have all kinds of icons and such?
[09:31] <Ankoran> bare
[09:31] <krzkrz> anyone?!
[09:31] <Neo31> what's the package for locale configuration?
[09:31] <Vespian> Ankoran: Then you're likely in GNOME.
[09:31] <krzkrz> yes/no/maybe/foff?
[09:31] <Ankoran> i just have no idea what this is usingto configure the wireless as is
[09:31] <Ankoran> there is no wpa_supplicant configuration file and /etc/network/ineterfaces doesnt have wlan0
[09:32] <cfhowlett> Neo31, terminal time: dpkg -l | grep locale          will tell you
[09:32] <Ankoran> wifi works just fine dhcp but i run a few services that use port forwardingand its a bugger to have to change that all the time
[09:34] <Vespian> Ankoran: Ctrl + Alt + t and execute: nm-applet
[09:34] <Vespian> Ankoran: That's the default GNOME Network Manager application.
[09:35] <Ankoran> nevermind i found it in the network list when i selected my AP i clicked edit and its all in there to assign stuff for ipv4/6
[09:35] <Ankoran> but thanks
[09:35] <Vespian> Ankoran: I also advise that you do Ctrl + Alt + t and execute: /usr/bin/software-center
[09:36] <Ankoran> for what?
[09:36] <Happzz> hey guys.
[09:36] <Ankoran> ive been using this install of ubuntu for a month now i just never bothered to learn how to assign a static IP for wifi
[09:36] <Ankoran> im updated and customized
[09:36] <Happzz> i have win8.1 installed on disk1 and i'd like to put ubuntu on disk2 (two separate physical disks)
[09:36] <Happzz> i dont want to mess with dual booting and whatever. i'd rather just tell the bios which disk to load every time
[09:37] <nusr> how can i run a bash script? what file extension do i use for ubuntu? the script runs when i input line by line into gnuplot, but when i try to cat <filename.gp> | gnuplot it says data file unreadable
[09:37] <cfhowlett> Happzz, install but skip the bootloader
[09:37] <Happzz> windows is already on disk1 and running fine. how do i go about installing ubuntu on disk2 without accidently touching disk1 at all - not the data and not the bootloader there
[09:37] <Vespian> Ankoran: Are you now? Perhaps you should do Ctrl + Alt + t and execute software-properties-gtk and then enable Canonical updates and also check your drivers out too. Ahah
[09:37] <Happzz> cfhowlett im really asking how to, not what to :)
[09:38] <Ankoran> already done Vespian
[09:38] <Happzz> and i guess there needs to be a boot loader for ubuntu as well, just on a diff disk, no?
[09:38] <Ankoran> i have also been using linux since 1993
[09:38] <Ankoran> I have just never used wireless with it before a month ago
[09:38] <cfhowlett> Happzz, choose "something else" during installation type.  do NOT install bootloader = "how to"
[09:39] <qwerty_> how to install ubuntu on crusoe cpu??
[09:39] <wildwind> cfhowlett: tu
[09:39] <wildwind> cfhowlett: *ty
[09:39] <Happzz> and how will ubuntu load if theres no boot loader?
[09:39] <ubuntul0ver> my drive is running full .. but aptitude says i have bout 200 packets installed how do i swipe the rest ?
[09:39] <Vespian> Anyone have any experience with reading data from a serial device that is plugged into USB? http://pastebin.com/hQfEuGFE
[09:39] <cfhowlett> Happzz, you said you wanted to specify at boot!
[09:40] <Happzz> i want to choose the disk with the f12 menu that tells the bios which disk to load
[09:40] <cfhowlett> Happzz, you could install the bootloader to ubuntu disk ...
[09:40] <Happzz> when/where do i choose that?
[09:41] <wildwind> cfhowlett: btw, why have you suggested edubuntu, does it have pxe preconfigured?
[09:41] <ubuntul0ver> i.e. where are the unneeded files hiding ?
[09:41] <cfhowlett> wildwind, edubuntu seems to do pxe / ltsp type installs a lot more than typical desktop installations
[09:42] <cfhowlett> Happzz, on the partition menu, you can select the bootloader target
[09:42] <Happzz> and if i tell it to put the bootloader on disk2, it will not touch disk1 AT ALL?
[09:43] <Happzz> im sorry for annoying with this, im just not going to be able to come and ask while doing it for real ;)
[09:43] <Happzz> so i have to understand first.
[09:43] <wildwind> ubuntul0ver: have you tried the built-in utility, baobab?
[09:43] <cfhowlett> Happzz, nope.  but to be sure, you can disable disk1 at bios, right?
[09:43] <Happzz> i dont know?
[09:44] <Happzz> if i can, does this ensure nothing at all is written to it?
[09:44] <cfhowlett> Happzz, disabled disk1 = no disk1 so far as live session concerned
[09:45] <Happzz> perfect. i will try now. see you in a bit :p
[09:45] <Happzz> thanks for your time, cfhowlett
[09:45] <cfhowlett> Happzz, take your time, be careful and read everything at each step before you commit <enter>
[09:46] <Happzz> one more thing (i just know this needs to be taken care of at install-time for fbsd and such), does ubuntu support full-disk encryption?
[09:46] <Vespian> Nobody here has ever attempted to read from a serial device? :X
[09:46] <usrb1n> Hello, I have a file that contains paths to other files, one per line. Is there any way to "loop" and open each file with nano ? Exactly the same situation as when you type nano file1 file2 file3. When file1 is closed file2 is opened and same with file 3
[09:46] <cfhowlett> Happzz, yes.
[09:46] <cfhowlett> !encryption | Happzz
[09:47] <Happzz> im looking forward to encrypt the whole disk. not just a directory.
[09:48] <Happzz> i'd imagine a desktop distro would have this thing built in like microsoft's bitlocker or something. click here, enter pass, you're good.
[09:49] <ubuntul0ver> how can i remove everything that has gtk dependencies ?
[09:49] <ubuntul0ver> my station is crashing all the time ..
[09:49] <wildwind> Happzz: Ubuntu offers this option when installing.
[09:49] <ubuntul0ver> no applications crash ..
[09:50] <Happzz> awesome. thanks again.
[09:50] <ubuntul0ver> not the station
[09:50] <Happzz> see you in a bit.
[09:51] <nusr> how can i run a bash script? what file extension do i use for ubuntu? the script runs when i input line by line into gnuplot, but when i try to cat <filename.gp> | gnuplot it says data file unreadable
[09:52] <Ben64> nusr: a bash script is not the same as running stuff in gnuplot
[09:52] <nusr> are bash scripts in ubuntu .gp?
[09:52] <Ben64> nusr: and file extensions don't matter at all
[09:53] <nusr> ok the commands that i am trying to run in gnuplot are in .gp  how can i run it?
[09:53] <red__> exit
[09:53] <Ben64> nusr: you should check out the manual page for gnuplot, i'm unfamiliar with it
[09:54] <nusr> Ben64: ok thanks
[09:55] <Ben64> nusr: http://gnuplot.sourceforge.net/faq/faq.html#x1-840007.4
[09:55] <nusr> Ben64: ok. i'm looking through the manual
[09:57] <nusr> Ben64: getting the same error. the page you showed has "gnuplot filename.gp -" and cat filename.gp |gnuplot produces the same error..data not readable.
[09:57] <Ben64> nusr: it doesn't say to use cat
[09:57] <Indiviuo> RAGE!
[09:58] <Indiviuo> http://googleonlinesecurity.blogspot.com/2014/12/are-you-robot-introducing-no-captcha.html
[09:58] <Indiviuo> Is anyone else seriously upset about this?
[09:58] <Ben64> Indiviuo: not on topic here at all
[09:58] <cfhowlett> Indiviuo, this is ubuntu support = carry this conversation - elsewhere
[09:58] <Indiviuo> B-but...
[09:58] <cfhowlett> !ot | Indiviuo,
[09:58] <nusr> Ben64: yeah, but i was saying the original command i was using is cat, which produces the same error..so i don't know why the data is not readable
[09:59] <nusr> Ben64: thanks for your help anyway
[09:59] <Ben64> nusr: it might not be a gnuplot file
[10:00] <nusr> Ben64: that page also uses .gp for the extension..and when i input line by line into gnuplot it outputs a chart. but it doesn't work when i try to run the script
[10:01] <nusr> Ben64: i'll email the author of the example
[10:01] <nusr> Ben64: http://linuxcommando.blogspot.sg/2014/05/how-to-plot-2d-data-using-gnuplot.html
[10:02] <nusr> in case anyone wants to do the same with gnuplot
[10:03] <wildwind> nusr: show us exact command you've used (aside from cat)
[10:08] <Happzz> i didnt expect this issue, but maybe you guys have an idea. i've a t510 with a caddy. im trying to install ubuntu to the disk in the caddy.
[10:09] <nusr> wildwind: cat mystats.gp |gnuplot
[10:09] <Happzz> the bios doesnt recognize the disk and so doesn't ubuntu's installer.
[10:09] <Happzz> windows however, does see it.
[10:09] <nusr> wildwind: the commands are copied and pasted into geddit and saved as that file name
[10:10] <nusr> "mystats.gp", line 62: warning: Skipping unreadable file "Documents/markets/current_inquiry/w.dat" "mystats.gp", line 62: No data in plot
[10:10] <captine> hi all.  quick one.  there is a dead link on the ubuntu website for juju web ui.  How is it best to report it?
[10:10] <captine> http://imgur.com/JANQvkZ
[10:10] <nusr> script is in the same folder
[10:10] <wildwind> nusr: why don't you try just 'gnuplot mystats.gp' as man clearly says?
[10:11] <nusr> wildwind: as i was saying earlier, i got the same error message "mystats.gp", line 62: warning: Skipping unreadable file "Documents/markets/current_inquiry/w.dat" "mystats.gp", line 62: No data in plot
[10:11] <nusr> wildwind: but when i input line by line into gnuplot it outputs the chart
[10:12] <captine> http://imgur.com/JANQvkZ   -- how does one report this to canonical/web admins?
[10:13] <captine> sorry.  Wrong window.  didnt mean to repeat
[10:13] <popey> captine: where is that linked from?
[10:13] <popey> captine: found it, at the bottom, I'll report it.
[10:13] <captine> thanks popey
[10:14] <popey> np
[10:14] <captine> PS, enjoy all your commentary on Linux Unplugged.
[10:16] <wildwind> nusr: this message means that your file was read and successfully processed up to line 62. The message is not about the file mystats.gp but about another file referenced in command on that line. so check it.
[10:17] <wildwind> nusr: and gnuplot is offtopic here
[10:17] <Vespian> Can anyone help me with reading a SIM Card from a SIM Card Reader in Ubuntu 14.10? http://pastebin.com/hQfEuGFE
[10:21] <new123456> hi
[10:22] <medecau> Good morning. I have just installed ubuntu server on a mac mini. I have made some of the necessary encantations for this to work but I am getting hung on boot. It displays a blinking cursor on the top left. Any idea why? I believed this is something to do with grub
[10:22] <somsip> !mac | medecau
[10:23] <medecau> somsip, the wiki is dated
[10:31] <ObrienDave> does not mean the info is reasonably valid
[10:31] <Lachezar> Hey all. Upgraded Ubuntu Server to 14.04.01 LTS, and now I can not ssh into the server with the 'backup' account. How can I fix this (without compromising the system completely)?
[10:31] <Ben64> Lachezar: can you ssh in at all?
[10:33] <Lachezar> Ben64: yes, I have user users that ssh in as expected, but the 'backup' account is a system one, and even though it has .ssh/authorized_keys and is explicitly noted in AllowUsers in /etc/ssh/sshd_config it does not allow ssh in with 'backup'.
[10:33] <spidey-westland> I am new, where can I find the good info for setting Xchat
[10:33] <Ben64> Lachezar: ok, then ssh in and fix it?
[10:33] <medecau> ObrienDave, if you were responding to me I must say it doesn't mean the info is at all valid either
[10:34] <Lachezar> Ben64: How? I do not know what broke to fix it!
[10:34] <medecau> the wiki refers to iso images that were unable to boot on mac for a starter
[10:34] <Ben64> Lachezar: check logs man
[10:34] <Lachezar> Ben64: auth.log shows: nologin: Attempted login by backup on UNKNOWN
[10:35] <nusr> wildwind: ok thanks
[10:46] <a_random_dude> Ubuntu rocks!!
[10:46] <p01s0n> hello all ,i am trying to share my block device exported over iscsi to multiple hosts
[10:47] <p01s0n> formatted device as GFS2
[10:48] <p01s0n> how can i mount it?Does it require corosync and other tools to mount this
[10:52] <Walex> p01s0n: you can mount GFS2 in non-cluster mode
[10:53] <p01s0n> Walex thanks so  with non clustered option (nolock) can i still share that between two hosts?
[10:59] <Walex> p01s0n: depends. clustered mode means that among its users one is the "active" one, but you can mount it shared without its clients being in cluster mode.
[11:00] <tony_> hello everyone
[11:00] <Walex> p01s0n: GFS2 supports concurrent writes without problems with the right options (but they are slow). It is the systems mounting it that may not be able to work together.
[11:02] <Walex> p01s0n: put another way the lock manager and the cluster manager have completely different roles.
[11:04] <Walex> p01s0n read carefully gthe fully the paragraph beginning "The GFS requires fencing" in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GFS2
[11:05] <p01s0n> Walex : i am trying to achieve a shared file store for my webservers but our SAN supports only iscsi.So i am trying to use a file system that supports sharing file.tried using (lock_nolock) with this it can mount block device across nodes but contents are missing
[11:05] <Walex> p01s0n: that's a different problem...
[11:07] <Walex> p01s0n: if there are multiple clients writing the distributed lock manager is necessary to handle access to the journal as mentioned in the Wikipedia. This needs to be clustered itself in case of client restarts. Then perhaps the client themselves need to be clustered if they cannot work together.
[11:08] <Walex> p01s0n: however "missing" content most likely is due to *caching*.
[11:09] <Walex> p01s0n: suppose that you have client A, client B, and server X with the GFS2 block device.
[11:10] <Walex> p01s0n: client A updates a file. When does client B "sees" the update? It could be several seconds later, as the update may be cached in RAM on client A, if the application does not use 'fsync' or similar.
[11:10] <Walex> p01s0n: so in your case you must use the DLM, rather than 'nolock', and ensure that applications use 'flock'.
[11:11] <Walex> p01s0n: but the overall issue is that you are trying to use a filesystem as a shared remote database. This can be made to work but perhaps a shared remote database would be a more natural backend.
[11:12] <raskel> hello, i have ubuntu 14.04 which is LTS. should i upgrade to 14.10 or i should wait for 15.04?
[11:13] <p01s0n> Walex : thanks, so for DLM to work i need to configure CMAN and other cluster management tools .I thought it will be simple as formating with GFS2 and mounting across multiple nodes
[11:15] <anselan> raskel: Depends on what you're doing, I guess
[11:16] <k1l> raskel, when you upgrade you need to do every release, besides the LTS to LTS upgrade which is 14.04 to 16.04
[11:16] <anselan> raskel: How important is stablility to you?
[11:16] <k1l> raskel, but if you dont want to upgrade all 6 months you should stay on LTS
[11:17] <anselan> raskel: I stay on LTS versions for installations I build, but only because I need to ensure hardware compatibility over a long term, and don't need "bleeding edge" features
[11:17] <streulma> hello
[11:17] <Walex> p01s0n: as that Wikipedia paragraph says, that workish except at restarts. When a node crashes and restarts it tries to replay the journal, which is a bad idea if there are other systems.
[11:18] <streulma> if someone asks some help with the new Macs (running newer EFI), I can help with setting up a Linux only boot. There is some problem with the new EFI not detecting the EFI file of Ubuntu.
[11:18] <Walex> p01s0n: the DLM does not strictly speaking need the cluster manager; you can do it manually, but that's unreliable.
[11:19] <streulma> it was some work to set it up but it works
[11:19] <streulma> see http://glandium.org/blog/?p=2830
[11:20] <streulma> that's emulate an OSX EFI boot
[11:24] <bahamas> fidel_: thanks!
[11:25] <runing_froger> hello
[11:26] <kokut> Hello, I installed mysql in ubuntu and when I type any commands on the mysql> prompt it doesn't show anything, already tried restarting it, anyone knows what could be wrong?
[11:27] <kokut> Also i don't know why but i cannot talk in #mysql :\
[11:28] <runing_froger> hello, I got problem with sshfs. Im using sshfs to mount partition from windows to linux. I got problem with file larger than 2GB, when I connect disc to my local linux and when I check their size it shows me that this files are enlarged (ls -lrtah shows 16E in size)
[11:28] <p01s0n> Thanks Walex
[11:28] <runing_froger> is there a way to debug this?
[11:29] <ObrienDave> runing_froger, what is the partition formatted to? fat32?
[11:31] <medecau> I'm reinstalling ubuntu on mac and just got an error during keyboard detection. I ran the test again just to make sure I was typing the right keys. When I'm done installing ubuntu how may I report this "bug"?
[11:32] <hateball> !bug
[11:32] <medecau> thanks hateball
[11:33] <adik> hello
[11:35] <mrcan> hi friends, i wanna create my local repo (ex: http://packages.linux-sunxi.org/ubuntu/dists/), is there any complete script can do that?
[11:37] <ratnakar> i am trying to exclude a folder from this scripte rsync -auvHP --exclude 'excludefolder' 192.168.0.xxx:/mnt/volstor01/Projects/Projects/sourcefolder /targetfolder     ...... but it seems not working .... can some one please help me
[11:40] <bet0x> ratnakar, or Google it!
[11:42] <somsip> ratnakar: how is it not working? Is the user the same on the source machine?
[11:44] <ratnakar> bet0x: i did google ... but could not get it right
[11:45] <ratnakar> bet0x: it is still including the excldefolder
[11:45] <geirha> ratnakar: #rsync would be the best place to ask
[11:45] <bet0x> geirha, http://articles.slicehost.com/2007/10/10/rsync-exclude-files-and-folders
[11:46] <bet0x> ratnakar, http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2011/01/rsync-exclude-files-and-folders/
[11:53] <Chiara> !list
[11:54] <wildwind> How can I do in terminal the same thing as Nautilus does when automounting USB media?
[11:59] <cherrypoop> i can't generate a 2048 bit key
[11:59] <cherrypoop> ssh keygen is only generating aes 128
[11:59] <cherrypoop> what can i do?
[11:59] <bet0x> cherrypoop, shoot the mf!
[11:59] <ServerSage> wildwind: This page might be of use: http://goo.gl/Ut6h
[11:59] <cherrypoop> ssh-keygen -t rsa -b 2048 -C "email@example.com"
[12:00] <cherrypoop> that's the command i ran
[12:00] <bet0x> cherrypoop, http://www.guyrutenberg.com/2007/10/05/ssh-keygen-tutorial-generating-rsa-and-dsa-keys/
[12:01] <bet0x> cherrypoop, ssh-keygen -t rsa -b 4096 -C "email@example.com"
[12:01] <bet0x> try that one
[12:01] <cherrypoop> thanks
[12:01] <cherrypoop> that's fancy
[12:02] <cherrypoop> i have a feeling it worked because it paused significantly longer
[12:03] <cherrypoop> usually it generates it in an instance
[12:03] <dmoyne> hello! anymone that can tell me how to get azerty keyboard set before logging in a kde session
[12:03] <cherrypoop> bet0x: it's not working :(
[12:03] <richboyRox> wow
[12:03] <cherrypoop> cat shows this: Proc-Type: 4,ENCRYPTED DEK-Info: AES-128-CBC
[12:03] <richboyRox> great
[12:04] <Chiara> !list
[12:05] <GmCece> Yo
[12:05] <dmoyne> mCece: you know how to get this fixed?
[12:05] <wildwind> ServerSage: ty
[12:06] <dmoyne> GmCece: you know how to get this fixed?
[12:09] <cherrypoop> okay this is what's happening guys
[12:09] <cherrypoop> http://pastie.org/9760260
[12:10] <ikonia> cherrypoop: where is the problem ?
[12:10] <cherrypoop> ikonia: you see the line where it says DEK-Info?
[12:10] <zasif> ok
[12:10] <cherrypoop> it says AES-128
[12:10] <zasif> ke;;p
[12:10] <zasif> lg
[12:10] <zasif> agbmklofbmlokmgvlmklb ok,b l,
[12:11] <BADASS> HELLO
[12:11] <ServerSage> BADASS: No need for all caps.
[12:11] <BADASS> YO MOMMA SO FAT
[12:11] <ikonia> cherrypoop: that's the default though
[12:12] <BADASS> IS THERE NO NEED FOR CAPS
[12:12] <ikonia> BADASS: please don't
[12:12] <cherrypoop> ikonia: what do you mean?
[12:12] <BADASS> BUT WHY
[12:12] <serverx> Hi all, Can you please help, Xubuntu, all power saving modes off, tried the suggestions with 'longind.conf'..  but still closing the lid crashes the machine ?
[12:12] <ikonia> BADASS: please don't
[12:12] <BADASS> HOW DO I TURN IT OFF?
[12:14] <ServerSage> cherrypoop: I think you are a bit confused about how encrypted keys work.
[12:16] <ServerSage> cherrypoop: This page might help you understand: http://goo.gl/nBGNQg
[12:16] <serverx> Nice work people, Great, no answer here either, I respect your work, Networks and this crash when lid closed, make, this OS, pointless, sorry...
[12:16] <ServerSage> serverx: Have you looked in the log files?
[12:17] <cherrypoop> thanks guys
[12:17] <cherrypoop> there's too much to learn in the world of comptuers i feel like giving up and doing theater
[12:17] <ServerSage> cherrypoop: You're welcome.
[12:17] <ServerSage> cherrypoop: I find myself saying, "I should switch to moving dirt" daily.
[12:17] <enchilado> How, do, I, use, commas, correctly
[12:18] <ServerSage> enchilado: I just fell off my chair laughing.
[12:18] <bazhang> ask in ##english enchilado
[12:18] <hikenboot_> is nbd supported in the ubuntu kernel?
[12:19] <enchilado> ServerSage: are you okay?
[12:19] <hikenboot_> or does it require a custom kernel
[12:19] <ServerSage> bazhang: He was commenting on serverx's posts.
[12:20] <ServerSage> hikenboot_: I think you only need to install nbd-(client|server)
[12:20] <hikenboot_> yes i did that but apparently it doesnt work right without recompiling some kernels
[12:21] <hikenboot_> I just was hoping someone might know the answer from experience
[12:21] <ServerSage> hikenboot_: No, no you don't have to recompile the kernel.
[12:21] <ServerSage> hikenboot_: Have you tried it?  If so, what is the error you are getting?
[12:22] <hikenboot_> its funny it sees the nbd shares but I cant operate on them with fdisk or gparted
[12:22] <cherrypoop> ServerSage: why do you want to push dirt?
[12:23] <ServerSage> cherrypoop: Because computers suck.
[12:23] <ServerSage> hikenboot_: And do you get any errors?  What do the logs say?
[12:23] <cherrypoop> ServerSage: what sucks about them?
[12:23] <hikenboot_> actually i see no logs I was about to find a way of enabling the logs
[12:23] <ServerSage> cherrypoop: If you have to ask, you clearly haven't been using them for long.
[12:24] <cherrypoop> well i know what sucks for me, but i'm curious what sucks for you
[12:24] <bazhang> !ot | cherrypoop
[12:25] <seff> where can i find info on fixing the color on 1080p with the nvidia drivers?
[12:25] <ServerSage> seff: Have you looked at using nvidia-settings?
[12:25] <wildwind> ServerSage: pmount seems to do the job. the only question that remains is how to get mount point name assigned from volume label?
[12:26] <seff> yeah the only fix is droping resolution
[12:28] <ServerSage> wildwind: Thought you wanted to automount the drive.  pmount is for mounting a drive as a non-root user as if you have sudo access.
[12:30] <ServerSage> wildwind: After using pmount to get it mounted, you can run 'mount' to get a list of mounted devices.
[12:30] <wildwind> ServerSage: I want to manually do that 'automount' from terminal.
[12:31] <wildwind> ServerSage: surely i can
[12:33] <ServerSage> wildwind: Well, if you run "pmount /dev/sdb1" it will probably get mounted in /media/sdb1
[12:33] <wildwind> ServerSage: I want to mount it under /media/$VOLUME_LABEL name, just as automount does.
[12:33] <ServerSage> wildwind: If you run "pmount /dev/sdb1 monkey" it will get mounted in /media/monkey
[12:34] <wildwind> ServerSage: you don't get me
[12:38] <wildwind> ServerSage: I mean volume label that assigned when formatting the USB stick
[12:38] <ServerSage> wildwind: So you want to run "pmount some-magic-here" and have it A) Figure out the drive label B) Mount the drive in /media/LABEL?
[12:39] <ServerSage> wildwind: Something like this might work then:  pmount /dev/sdb1 `blkid -s LABEL /dev/sdb1`
[12:39] <wildwind> ServerSage: yes. Nautilus (or whoever) does it somehow
[12:40] <ServerSage> wildwind: The blkid portion gets the label of the drive, putting that in `` (these are the backticks to the left of the 1 on your keyboard) executes the blkid portion and uses it as an argument for pmount.
[12:43] <EriC^^> wildwind: sudo mkdir /media/$(sudo blkid -s LABEL /dev/sdb1 | grep -o \".*\") && sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/$(sudo blkid -s LABEL /dev/sdb1 | grep -o \".*\")
[12:43] <wildwind> ServerSage: blkid -s LABEL /dev/sdb1 doesn't work for me, shows no output
[12:43] <ServerSage> wildwind: Then the drive doesn't have a label.
[12:43] <EriC^^> wildwind: blkid needs sudo
[12:43] <EriC^^> wildwind: you'll need to use grep to remove some stuff
[12:43] <ServerSage> wildwind: Or what EriC^^ said.  :)
[12:46] <wildwind> ServerSage, EriC^^: yes, for volume with labels it works, even w/o sudo
[12:46] <wildwind> *volumes
[12:46] <ServerSage> Thought it should.
[12:46] <ServerSage> Wasn't sure.
[12:46] <SCHAAP137> it will probably be mounted under /media/username/LABEL right?
[12:47] <SCHAAP137> without sudo
[12:47] <ServerSage> SCHAAP137: Using pmount it should get mounted in /media/LABL
[12:47] <SCHAAP137> ahh, ok
[12:51] <wildwind> But things started to get complicated. I'll have to deal with different partitioning (sdb1 vs sdb2 vs sdb) and probably different device names (sdc etc.) I hoped there is some API in that I can just call from console.
[12:52] <ServerSage> wildwind: I think you might want to ask yourself why you are doing it the way you want to do it.
[12:53] <ServerSage> wildwind: And learn about partitioning.  sdb is not a partition.  sdb1 and sdb2 are.
[12:54] <EriC^^> wildwind: earlier one doesn't work, use if you want i guess sdb1=$(blkid -s LABEL /dev/sdb1 | grep -o \".*\" | sed 's/\"//g') && sudo mkdir /media/"$sdb1" && sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/"$sdb1"
[12:58] <ServerSage> EriC^^:  If he just uses pmount he doesn't need the mkdir nor does he need sudo.
[13:00] <wildwind> ServerSage: I know. There could be no partition table at all, but one whole volume. I have one such drive right now.
[13:02] <ServerSage> wildwind: WHY do you want to do things this way?
[13:02] <flipapy> morning everyone. :) did anyone just run a 'sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get update&&sudo apt-get upgrade, then sudo apt-get update?  i mena that's the typical pattern i run during my daily update. i'm using ked-mint 17, but it updadtes from ubuntu and i'm just wondering if anyone else experienced a Significantly slower update than usual.  did anyone?
[13:03] <ServerSage> flipapy: Huh?
[13:03] <acerimmer_> !mint | flipapy, you'll have to take it up with Mint support.  Not supported here.
[13:03] <EriC^^> flipapy: you only need to run update once, and then upgrade
[13:03] <EriC^^> flipapy: it's not like zeroing a disk or something
[13:04] <flipapy> ok, thanks, but during the update it does say they update from ubuntu servers
[13:05] <Jelio> hello
[13:05] <flipapy> did you guys experience a slower than usual update today?
[13:05] <EriC^^> flipapy: depends which server you're using i guess
[13:05] <ServerSage> flipapy: Try a different mirror.
[13:06] <flipapy> ok thanks ServerSage
[13:06] <__raven> 14.04lts server with cli only: no effect on free space when deleting files. issue from encrypted home folder which is not being updated?
[13:10] <wildwind> ServerSage: I often do different things with USB drives. Sometimes I just mount them, sometimes I insert them, get an image, write another image, then mount, test, unmount etc. So automount is not convenient for me. Mounting with GUI isn't convenient either due to constant keyboard/mouse switching.
[13:12] <ServerSage> wildwind: Well, with what EriC^^ and myself have given you a shell script could easily be written so you could run "myautomount.sh /dev/sdb1" and it would do what you want.
[13:14] <afidegnum> hello, I am still using ubuntu 12.10 as required by an application, where can i find ubuntu repositories, to be used to install new application?
[13:14] <wildwind> ServerSage: Yes, I'm working on it right now, adopting it to pmount. Thank you and EriC^^!
[13:14] <afidegnum> the default repo being used are bringing errors
[13:14] <ServerSage> afidegnum: What errors?
[13:14] <afidegnum> missing packages
[13:14] <ServerSage> afidegnum: You can switch mirrors.
[13:14] <afidegnum> I used about 3 mirros, from us, uk and se
[13:14] <afidegnum> no luck
[13:14] <DJones> afidegnum: Because 12.10 is end of life, the repo's get removed
[13:15] <afidegnum> is there no way i can get them back?
[13:15] <ServerSage> Derp, I was thinking 12.04.
[13:15] <afidegnum> or no outstanding repo?
[13:15] <xangua> afidegnum: please upgrade to a supported ubuntu release
[13:15] <cfhowlett> afidegnum, drop back to 12.04.  it's still supported and repos are still live.  using an unsupported distro is BEGGING for a breach and asking for trouble
[13:16] <afidegnum> I do have the 14.04 version, but I am facing serious problem with it
[13:16] <ServerSage> afidegnum: In the future if you have a system that will need to stay at a particular version you should install an LTS version of Ubuntu.
[13:16] <afidegnum> the first problem is after ubuntu launches, it goes totally black screen
[13:16] <afidegnum> I have installed ubuntu on dual-boot
[13:17] <afidegnum> tha's an issue I couldn't solved for the past 5 days now, when i do reinstall, everything seems all right, but after upgrading most components, the error starts, black screen
[13:18] <ServerSage> afidegnum: This happens in 14.04?
[13:18] <afidegnum> ues
[13:18] <afidegnum> yes
[13:18] <XeBlackWater> no
[13:18] <XeBlackWater> is nothing new
[13:18] <ServerSage> afidegnum: Is this a server install or a desktop install?  In otherwords, do you have a gui?
[13:19] <ServerSage> afidegnum: I'm going to assume desktop install.  Take a look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log and see if there are any errors.
[13:20] <afidegnum> ServerSage: it's a desktop insstall
[13:20] <wildwind> Sadly, pmount doesn't seem to work with drives with no partition table.
[13:21] <afidegnum> I can't even login, the screen is black, after boot selection
[13:21] <afidegnum> how do I get access to teh xorg.log?
[13:21] <ServerSage> afidegnum: Switch to a different console.
[13:21] <afidegnum> how
[13:22] <ServerSage> afidegnum: Ctrl-Alt-F1
[13:22] <ServerSage> afidegnum: Then Ctrl-Alt-F7 gets you back to the gui.
[13:24] <bluezone> if nobody can help me with this i will go cry in corner: I'm trying to set my mouse sensitivity to BELOW the minimum allowed by the Graphical User Interface on ubuntu Desktop. How do i do this?
[13:24] <cfhowlett> afidegnum, you're using an unsupported OS.  You should expect increasingly serious problems.  OR you could install a supported OS.  your choice.  but 12.10 is not longer supported.
[13:24] <bluezone> google is not helpful because I am not very smart
[13:25] <ServerSage> cfhowlett: The problem he is currently having is on 14.04.
[13:25] <cfhowlett> ServerSage, ah.  better.
[13:25] <ServerSage> bluezone: This might help, though this is not something I've done:  http://goo.gl/ETZ2LO
[13:26] <bluezone> yeah i will try but these guides make me feel stupid when i follow through and it no work :(
[13:27] <bluezone> ServerSage, welp it seems to work now
[13:28] <ServerSage> bluezone: Good, glad to hear it.
[13:30] <bluezone> ServerSage, i will try to reboot now i modified xorg.conf brb
[13:33] <bluezone> ServerSage, Okay seems to be working Okay but i don't like the way it doesn't take mouse acceleration into account
[13:36] <j0hnskot> Hello there! I just bought a Nvidia GTX 750 TI and i'm having problems making it work. I tried installing 340 and 343 driver from xorg edgers but nothing works. Ubuntu always boots into fail safe mode , with a low resolution . Any help please?
[13:46] <nonyab>  how can I use video as screen saver in the lxle distribution of linux
[13:48] <introom> hi
[13:49] <introom> where does the 'locate' command search?
[13:49] <introom> the manual says it refers to a db. but it's too vague.
[13:50] <wildwind> introom: See FILES section: /var/lib/mlocate/mlocate.db
[13:50] <hateball> introom: /var/lib/mlocate/mlocate.db
[13:50] <hateball> beh
[13:51] <BluesKaj_> Hiyas all
[13:51] <introom> wildwind: hateball what does that contain by default?
[13:52] <cfhowlett> nonyab, lxle is not an ubuntu supported OS.  can't help you here.
[13:53] <wildwind> introom: all file names in your filesystem
[13:53] <introom> ooo.
[13:54] <introom> wildwind: is that documented?
[13:55] <Pici> introom: yes, see the manpage for updatedb and /etc/updatedb.conf
[13:55] <wildwind> introom: man updatedb
[13:57] <introom> aha. see it. thanks.
[14:02] <usrb1n> Hello guys. I am using the following command to find some files recursively: grep -r -i --include="*.php" "Step 1 - Check Stats 0" ./   . My issue comes because the found files are "snapshots" from the same file on different parts of the development. I need to use somehow wc -l in order to identify the path for the file with more lines (which should be the last one)
[14:02] <usrb1n> I have tried to add | wc -l
[14:02] <usrb1n> But  it does not make any change
[14:03] <Pici> usrb1n: have you considered using find in conjuntion with grep?
[14:04] <usrb1n> Pici: Also tried that. find . -name "*.php" | grep -i "Step 1 - Check Stats 0" | wc -l
[14:04] <usrb1n> No results at all here
[14:05] <iggymydog> dell laptop broadcom wireless addapter in it cant connect to wifi....connects to ethernet fine...help?
[14:06] <ikonia> wasn't this explained in detail yesterday iggymydog
[14:06] <iggymydog> no?
[14:06] <ikonia> !broadcom | iggymydog
[14:07] <iggymydog> ubottu: i did thAT
[14:07] <wildwind> usrb1n: guess xargs can help you
[14:07] <iggymydog> ikonia: I did that and its not working still
[14:07] <sebastianlutter> A question to proxys. I want to use a "web proxy" on my server to solve a CORS issue in a prototype implementation. My question is: can I use Squid (or any other fast proxy) from within javascript like this php proxy solution here: https://developer.yahoo.com/javascript/howto-proxy.html)
[14:07] <ikonia> iggymydog: walk through each step and verify the working output matches what is expected
[14:07] <cfhowlett> iggymydog, not working = not turning on or on but not connecting?
[14:08] <iggymydog> cfhowlett: hold on let me go through the steps and try it again.....just to double check
[14:08] <ikonia> don't redo it
[14:08] <Pici> usrb1n: find just outputs filenames, so that won't do. you'd need to modify the find command to filter for the production files, but something like this will work: find . -name "*.php" -print0 | xargs -0 -I {} grep -H "Step 1 - Check Stats 0" {}
[14:08] <ikonia> check / verify that the status is as that guide suggests
[14:09] <iggymydog> ok
[14:09] <iggymydog> ummmm how do i do that?
[14:09] <ikonia> iggymydog: you check that what it says should happen, "has" happened
[14:09] <Pici> usrb1n: actually, I guess you don't need the -I {} or the {} at the end.
[14:09] <wildwind> usrb1n: try this: grep -r -i --include="*.php" --null "Step 1 - Check Stats 0" ./ | wc -l --files0-from=-
[14:10] <iggymydog> ....
[14:11] <iggymydog> ikonia: i feel really dumb right now....ive looked the guide over and its giveing me download paccages and commands for me to download drivers i dont see whAT I SHOULD BE CONFIRMING?
[14:11] <cfhowlett> iggymydog, for starters: open a terminal and do this command.  fpaste.org       the outcome  lspci -vvnn | grep -A 9 Network
[14:12] <iggymydog> cfhowlett: command not found
[14:12] <cfhowlett> copy and paste
[14:13] <cfhowlett> lspci -vvnn | grep -A 9 Network
[14:13] <iggymydog> cfhowlett: "fpaste.org"?
[14:13] <iggymydog> cfhowlett: ok
[14:13] <ObrienDave> !pastebin | iggymydog
[14:13]  * cfhowlett smacks ObrienDave 
[14:13] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave, I can't see pastebin in BJ
[14:14] <ObrienDave> lol
[14:14] <iggymydog> cfhowlett: no such file or directory
[14:14] <Pici> iggymydog: what exactly are you typing?
[14:14] <pbx> iggymydog, "fpaste.org the outcome" means copy/paste the output in your terminal to a pastebin.
[14:14] <pbx> it's not a command
[14:15] <iggymydog> pici
[14:15] <iggymydog> lspci -vvnn | grep -A 9 Network
[14:15] <iggymydog> lspci -vvnn | grep -A 9 Network" verbadum, im typeing that
[14:15] <magesing> Hi everyone, I'm trying to install the documentation for ABAQUS 6.14... when I start it's installer I get the warning: ***WARNING:  We were unable to find the 32-bit system termcap library (libtermcap.so).   What do I install to get a 32bit libtermcap.so on ubuntu? Thanks.
[14:15] <cfhowlett> iggymydog, look at this. line 1 is the command.  2 -10 is output
[14:15] <cfhowlett> http://fpaste.org/156586/
[14:15] <iggymydog> my computer is not on the internet so i can not paste it to the internet
[14:15] <pbx> iggymydog, e.g.  COMMAND | curl -si -F "content=<-" http://dpaste.com/api/v2/ | grep ^Location: | colrm 1 10
[14:16] <cfhowlett> iggymydog, eh, right.  ok.  sorry
[14:16]  * ObrienDave smacks cfhowlett ;P
[14:16] <cfhowlett> iggymydog, so the FIRST line of output from the command Broadcom Corporation BCM?????
[14:16] <iggymydog> cfhowlett: i can paste it to a text file and use a cd to transfer...
[14:16] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave, do it again, I deserve it
[14:17] <iggymydog> first line of out put from which command?>
[14:17] <cfhowlett> iggymydog, nope.  just line one of the output
[14:17] <iggymydog> cfhowlett: you gave me two
[14:17] <cfhowlett> iggymydog, THIS is a command.  THIS is the ONLY command we need look at just now:   lspci -vvnn | grep -A 9 Network
[14:18]  * ObrienDave bites tongue
[14:18] <Windows_> sup guys
[14:19] <cfhowlett> iggymydog,  lspci -vvnn | grep -A 9 Network
[14:19] <iggymydog> cfhowlett: first line says no such file or directory
[14:20] <cfhowlett> iggymydog, different command:   cat /etc/issuue
[14:20] <cfhowlett> cat /etc/issuue
[14:20] <cfhowlett> *issue*
[14:20] <cfhowlett> sorry.
[14:20] <cfhowlett> iggymydog, cat /etc/issue
[14:21] <iggymydog> cfhowlett: hold on im transfering the paste to a text file on a cd to upload to a paste bin for yoyu
[14:22] <j0hnskot> Hey guys! I got a problem making gtx 750 ti nvidia work. The driver from xorg edgers does not work. Ubuntu boots with low resolution. Any idea?
[14:24] <magesing> Ok, /usr/lib32/libtrmcap.so exists, but it is a text file which points me to this bug  http://bugs.debian.org/249122. . . if I have an application which is depending on libtermcap.so (ELFclass 32bit) how do I satisfy the dependancy on an ubuntu system?
[14:26] <iggymydog> cfhowlett: ok
[14:26] <iggymydog> cfhowlett: paste.ubuntu.com/9367861/
[14:27] <Ben64> j0hnskot: you need at least nvidia 340 for that to work, make sure you're getting the right one from the PPA, and make sure the module is building properly
[14:27] <oupty> My Lenovo G400s are crap
[14:28] <oupty> It doesn't work the SD Card slot
[14:28] <cfhowlett> iggymydog, no mention ANYWHERE of broadcom of BCM ...
[14:28] <iggymydog> cfhowlett: what do you mean?
[14:28] <oupty> I tried installing divers for it but it usseless....
[14:29] <iggymydog> cfhowlett: read the whole thing half of the out put was cut off
[14:29] <paulbx> the Backups app (14.04) tells me, "Your backup appears to be corrupted.  You should delete the backup and try again."  the backup dir is 1000+ deja-dup files. delete what?
[14:29] <cfhowlett> iggymydog, you said you were installing broadcom to get your wifi working, right?  Well, according your output, no boradcom
[14:30] <iggymydog> cfhowlett: then what is there?
[14:31] <j0hnskot> Ben64 i  installed the 340 driver. But still, low resolution! How can i check if the driver is properly installed?
[14:31] <Berto> Can someone please help me?  A month of backup problems... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2250688
[14:31] <irishspy> berto: sup
[14:31] <Ben64> j0hnskot: does it show up in "lsmod | grep nvidia"
[14:31] <oupty> help me please...
[14:31] <irishspy> berto: did you try switching to windows
[14:31] <oupty> what can I do
[14:31] <Berto> irishspy, Hahahah i love my windows XP box, but that's going out too
[14:31] <Ben64> irishspy: don't do that here
[14:31] <oupty> my SD Card...
[14:32] <rafi> is there a way to find who required 'sendmail-bin' to be installed as a dep?
[14:32] <oupty> btw, I'm a girl
[14:32] <ikonia> rafi any mta
[14:32] <irishspy> ben64: note to self humour isnt aloud
[14:32] <Ben64> irishspy: correct, not in the support channel
[14:32] <rafi> right. thanks ikonia
[14:32] <cfhowlett> iggymydog, enter this command EXACTLY ... lspci -vvnn | grep -A 9 Network
[14:32] <Berto> What frustrates me is that I have an error message that's basically undocumented / unexplained, I'm the only person to post that error on any forum... nobody seems to care
[14:32] <rafi> but now way to show 'required' list for a package?
[14:33] <j0hnskot> Ben64: No, nothing shows up  :/
[14:33] <oupty> rafi: you can do it modifying databases
[14:33] <ikonia> rafi: apt-cache rdepends
[14:33] <ikonia> oupty: modifying database ? what are you talking about
[14:33] <Ben64> j0hnskot: how about "ls /var/lib/dkms" any nvidia there?
[14:34] <iggymydog> paste.ubuntu.com/9367965
[14:34] <iggymydog> cfhowlett: paste.ubuntu.com/9367965
[14:34] <j0hnskot> Ben64: Yes, nvidia-340 and nvidia-340-uvm
[14:34] <oupty> ikonia: Yes, the databases of the server.
[14:34] <rafi> thanks ikonia
[14:34] <cfhowlett> iggymydog, do you have the ubuntu installation USB or .iso?
[14:34] <Ben64> j0hnskot: ok... try "sudo modprobe nvidia"
[14:34] <ikonia> oupty: what database and what modifications ? he just wants package dependencies
[14:35] <iggymydog> cfhowlett: no
[14:35] <iggymydog> cfhowlett: i have 13.04 iso
[14:35] <iggymydog> cfhowlett: i updated from 13.04 t0 14.04 last night
[14:35] <cfhowlett> iggymydog, pro-tip.  ALWAYS keep a current ubuntu boot usb ...
[14:35] <rafi> (reverse dependencies:)
[14:36] <oupty> ikonia: The databases of the package installation. There are some execs to modify it as you wish.
[14:36] <j0hnskot> Ben64: it gives me an error. Let me log to irc from the pc with the problem to copy paste the error
[14:36] <ikonia> oupty: you should not be modifying ANY package database EVER
[14:36] <cfhowlett> iggymydog, need you download and install 2 packages.  wait 1
[14:36] <iggymydog> cfhowlett: i could make one simple enough
[14:36] <cfhowlett> iggymydog, do you have the 14.04 .iso???
[14:37] <oupty> ikonia: what?
[14:37] <iggymydog> give me the commands to download em like the app get command
[14:37] <ikonia> oupty: exactly what I've just said
[14:37] <j0hnskot1> Ben64: Here is the error:
[14:37] <j0hnskot1>  modprobe: ERROR: ../libkmod/libkmod-module.c:809 kmod_module_insert_module() could not find module by name='nvidia_340'
[14:37] <j0hnskot1> modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'nvidia_340': Function not implemented
[14:37] <iggymydog> cfhowlett: nope no iso
[14:37] <MagicSpud> hello I installed minecraft server on my ubuntu 14.04 and made a upper desktop menu bar shortcut the shortcut works but it asks me to accept eula license for the server to start...on the other hand when I cd to the jar file and run the java -jar command from terminal it just works...its pretty annoying because I am using the same commands does anybody know why this happens and how to make the shortcut work?
[14:38] <Ben64> j0hnskot: sudo apt-get install build-essential dkms linux-headers$(uname -r | sed s/^.*[0-9]\-/-/g)
[14:38] <oupty> ikonia: But, if you want to modify some packajes, you should modify the databases. It's the only method.
[14:38] <Pici> MagicSpud: press tab to get the the OK button then press enter.  It shouldn't asl you again.
[14:39] <MagicSpud> oooh really thats great!
[14:39] <ikonia> oupty: you should never modify the package database EVER, and you don't need to modify any packages to list the dependencies
[14:39] <MagicSpud> I will try it right now
[14:39] <j0hnskot1> Ben64: it says that everything is installed..
[14:39] <ikonia> oupty: you should not be modifying ANY package database EVER
[14:39] <Ben64> j0hnskot1: hmm... weird, gimme a sec to find the proper thingy
[14:39] <oupty> ikonia: why?
[14:39] <iggymydog> cfhowlett: i got it working yayayay
[14:39] <j0hnskot1> Ben64: Ok, thank you a lot!
[14:39] <iggymydog> cfhowlett: thanksa <3
[14:40] <Ben64> j0hnskot1: ok... "sudo dpkg-reconfigure dkms" see if that gives any error
[14:40] <cfhowlett> iggymydog, nice
[14:40] <ikonia> oupty: because your whole machine depends on that package database, and to list dependencies, you shouldn't modify anything
[14:40] <Ben64> j0hnskot1: if that works how its supposed to, it should build the module... (although will all those packages it should have done it before)
[14:40] <irishspy> cfhowlett: its working!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[14:40] <j0hnskot1> Ben64: No, no error
[14:40] <Ben64> j0hnskot1: did you see it build a module
[14:40] <oupty> ikonia: If you want to do some extra features, you can do it.
[14:40] <j0hnskot1> Ben64: It didn't output anything
[14:40] <cfhowlett> irishspy, how did you fix?
[14:40] <ikonia> oupty: a.) you should not do it b.) he does not want extra features, he just wanted to list dependencies
[14:41] <irishspy> cfhowlett: i just ckicked on the update thing and under additional drivers it said do not use this device so i clicked the other option which is some third party drivr or some shit
[14:41] <irishspy> cfhowlett: im iggymydog
[14:41] <cfhowlett> irishspy, nice.  I should have have you do that first.  now you know.
[14:41] <irishspy> cfhowlett: im connected by ethernet
[14:41] <irishspy> cfhowlett: i love yall ttyl yo
[14:41] <Ben64> j0hnskot1: "find /var/lib/dkms | grep nvidia | grep ko$"
[14:41] <oupty> ikonia: That's sad to read. I think you're wrong.
[14:42] <j0hnskot1> Ben64: still no output
[14:42] <ikonia> oupty: your welcome to think I'm wrong, however please don't offer that bad advice to people
[14:42] <Ben64> j0hnskot: ok so that means the module still isn't being built, but if you have all the packages above... i have no idea why
[14:42] <MagicSpud> Pici I tried the tab trick...it didnt work :-( here a snapshot of what I get with the shortcut: http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=80772
[14:43] <j0hnskot1> Ben64: 'find /var/lib/dkms | grep nvidia' gives an output. Is that relevant?
[14:43] <magesing> Anybody know how I can satisfy a dependancy on 32bit libtermcap.so on a 64bit ubuntu 14.04 system?
[14:43] <oupty> ikonia: it's an very effective optio to modify the databases, because you can do it whatever you can if you know about programming in debian
[14:43] <Ben64> j0hnskot: not unless a file ends in ".ko"
[14:43] <oupty> ikonia: so it's a very good option to do
[14:43] <ikonia> oupty: it is unacceptable, please don't offer it again
[14:43] <Pici> MagicSpud: err.. I was envisioning another screen. Sorry, UI've never seen anything like this before.  I'd take a look at eula.txt though.
[14:43] <MagicSpud> Pici I ve tried to just write in the console  what it is supposed to be in the eula.txt file but it doesnt recognize it as a command
[14:44] <Ben64> j0hnskot1: what version of ubuntu?
[14:44] <oupty> ikonia: can you explain us why is unacceptable?
[14:44] <__raven> 14.04lts server with cli only: no effect on free space when deleting files. issue from encrypted home folder which is not being updated?
[14:44] <ikonia> oupty: I already have 2 times, please drop it now
[14:44] <MagicSpud> Pici it seems not being able to read the eula agreement  when I execute the program from the desktop shortcut
[14:45] <oupty> Ikonia, i'm been serious. Reply me.
[14:45] <Ben64> j0hnskot1: and you did add the xorg-edgers repo properly?
[14:45] <ikonia> oupty: I am being serious also, please drop it now
[14:45] <j0hnskot1> Ben64: I'm using Ubuntu 14.04 , with kernel 3.16 lowlatency
[14:45] <ikonia> 3.16 on 14.04 ?
[14:46] <ikonia> is that the right version ?
[14:46] <j0hnskot1> Ben64: I added the repo as instructed and it offered me some updates too. How can i check if the repo is installed correctly?
[14:46] <oupty> modifying the database is the best option to install extra features in Ubuntu
[14:46] <Ben64> !info linux-image-3.16.0-25-lowlatency trusty
[14:46] <Ben64> apparently its a thing
[14:47] <j0hnskot1> ikonia: yes, i updated the kernel because based on phoronix only kernel 3.15 had better support for this gpu
[14:47] <Ben64> j0hnskot1: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-3.16.0-25-lowlatency
[14:48] <j0hnskot1> Ben64:  That was not installed. Apparently i messed something up already. What to do next?
[14:48] <azus> what is lowlatency for ?
[14:48] <Ben64> j0hnskot1:  then... "sudo apt-get purge nvidia*"  .... then ....   "sudo apt-get install nvidia-graphics-drivers-346 nvidia-settings"
[14:48] <ObrienDave> azus, timing issues, usually
[14:49] <Ben64> j0hnskot1: and it should work after that... but i got to go to sleep like... an hour ago
[14:49] <j0hnskot1> Ben64: Hehe, thank you very much! I'll try it! Can you give me a quick tip of what i messed up here?
[14:49] <j0hnskot1> Ben64: in case i mess it up again so i can fix it
[14:50] <Ben64> j0hnskot1: you have some weird kernel and i don't see a normal headers meta package for it. you need the headers for whatever kernel you're running in order for a module, like the nvidia module, to be compiled
[14:50] <Ben64> so i had you install the specific headers for the only lowlatency 3.16 kernel i see in trusty
[14:51] <XxIleniaxX> Ciao
[14:51] <XxIleniaxX> !list
[14:51] <j0hnskot1> Ben64 oh ok. But this happened with the 3.13 kernel too. That's why i updated to 3.16
[14:51] <j0hnskot1> Ben64: Well, i hope it works now! Thanks again!
[14:51] <Ben64> which means... i need to update my super awesome nvidia fixing line to account for that possibility
[14:52] <j0hnskot1> Ben64: hehehe, that's right
[14:57] <gansteed> what is the best solution to virtualize a windows guest in a kvm+qemu? I need a better graphics performance
[14:57] <Ben64> sudo apt-get install build-essential dkms linux-headers-$(uname -r) linux-headers-$(uname -r | sed s/-[a-z].*//g) linux-headers$(uname -r | sed s/^.*[0-9]\-/-/g)
[14:57] <ikonia> graphics performance will be a problem
[14:57] <ikonia> as it uses a virtual graphics card
[14:57] <Ben64> in case anyone cares, that should prepare any ubuntu system for nvidia install
[14:58] <j0hnskot> crap,still the same :/
[14:58] <gansteed> is there some graphics-io software like virtio
[14:59] <Ben64> j0hnskot1: any results for the find command now?
[15:00] <j0hnskot> no,nothing again
[15:00] <Ben64> i think it's because of your kernel then
[15:01] <j0hnskot> Ben64: i should mention that i installed nvidia-346 as nvidia-graphics-driver-346 because it didnt exist and i thought you made a typo. Is that the case? Or not being able to install the specific package means something?
[15:02] <Ben64> j0hnskot: on the xorg edgers ppa, its called nvidia-graphics-driver-346
[15:05] <j0hnskot> Ben64 : what the heck. I just saw it. But still, after adding the repo it can't see the package. I followed the instruction from the edgers  to add the repo
[15:13] <railsraider> Hi I am trying to run an upstart file when a shared folder is mounted on virtulbox, how can i make sure the upstart runs AFTER the drive was mounted
[15:13] <ikonia> upstart should be run at init
[15:13] <ikonia> not on trigger
[15:13] <railsraider> it does, but the mounted drive is not ready
[15:13] <ikonia> railsraider: then change the dependencies order
[15:14] <EriC^^> railsraider: maybe add if df | grep -qs /path/to/mountpoint; then .....; fi
[15:14] <railsraider> any other suggestions on how i can run it , i tried to add start on block-device-added
[15:14] <railsraider>  and also tried this start on local-filesystems
[15:15] <ikonia> a udev rule?
[15:15] <railsraider> its still not running because the folder does not exists
[15:15] <ikonia> that can respond to triggers
[15:15] <railsraider> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/589841/upstart-calling-script-for-inserted-usb-drive
[15:15] <railsraider> i figured a shared folder would act the same?
[15:15] <railsraider> but it doesnt
[15:16] <ikonia> no because the shared folder is not really a device trigger
[15:16] <ikonia> it's a userspace mount
[15:16] <koss> wow cheap http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00BQ8RHJ2/fpv-20/
[15:16] <ikonia> koss: nothing to do with this channel
[15:16] <railsraider> virtualbox is mounting it like a network drive
[15:16] <koss> sorry
[15:17] <ikonia> railsraider: virtual box uses it's own internal method to present drives
[15:17] <railsraider> the point is that its not mounted yet
[15:17] <railsraider> if iadd what EriC^^  suggested would that not halt the system?
[15:18] <ikonia> I think you are approaching it wrong
[15:18] <EriC^^> railsraider: put whatever you want to run inside the if
[15:18] <ikonia> I don't think upstart should be doing this, but if you MUST use upstart, just put a depend resource on that script on a specific file system
[15:18] <EriC^^> that will just check if it's mounted or not
[15:18] <railsraider> in the upstart file ?
[15:18] <ikonia> so it will not run that script until that file system is available
[15:18] <railsraider> i’ll give it a try
[15:24] <kraftb> hi !
[15:25] <kraftb> I don't wanna blame it on Ubuntu. But I have to struggle with getting my system operational again since 2 days :(
[15:25] <kraftb> Maybe it was the Krampus
[15:26] <rafi> minimal smtp forwarder for php and a system mta for local machine, any recommendations?
[15:26] <kraftb> I would suggest postfix or exim
[15:27] <DF3D2> okay something is wrong
[15:27] <DF3D2> I have two ubuntu machines and neither one can I restart networking on
[15:27] <railsraider> ikonia: EriC^^ here’s my upstart http://pastie.org/9760671 with the change of the if file, the process says that its running but its not, when i launch it manually it does work
[15:28] <DF3D2> "stop job failed while stopping"
[15:28] <DF3D2> so I have to reboot to change network settings, wtf ?
[15:28] <ikonia> railsraider: thats not what I advised you do
[15:29] <railsraider> im sorry i completl skipped your line, i’ll try that now
[15:30] <DF3D2> anyone know what is up ?
[15:30] <DF3D2> doing ifconfig eth0 down and ifconfig eth0 up doesn't work either
[15:30] <kraftb> DF3D2: Any messages?
[15:30] <kraftb> does "dmesg" say anything?
[15:31] <kraftb> tail -f /var/log/messages
[15:31] <EriC^^> */var/log/syslog
[15:31] <kraftb> ifconfig -v
[15:31] <DF3D2> the interfaces shows up
[15:31] <daftykins> DF3D2: yeah it hasn't worked via that method for years now, full reboot.
[15:31] <DF3D2> daftykins: why would I need to reboot? that's like anti linux
[15:31] <EriC^^> DF3D2: how are you rebooting it?
[15:31] <daftykins> welcome to fact versus theory.
[15:32] <EriC^^> DF3D2: try sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[15:32] <kraftb> It differs what people define as the innermost "essence" of Linux :)
[15:32] <kraftb> At least the essence is free :)
[15:32] <DF3D2> EriC^^: no error but doesn't work either
[15:32] <DF3D2> and my interface isnt getting an IP even tho it is set to static
[15:32] <EriC^^> DF3D2: sudo service network-manager restart ?
[15:33] <DF3D2> im not using network-manager
[15:33] <kraftb> And they don't beg you to buy any Ubuntu shirts
[15:33] <ikonia> the network stack should be provided by network manager by default
[15:33] <daftykins> !ot | kraftb
[15:33] <ikonia> so unless you have disabled that you shouldn't be configuring your network anywhere else
[15:33] <DF3D2> okay so it allowed me to restart network-manager
[15:33] <DF3D2> but my interface still isnt pulling the Ip I assigned staticly
[15:33] <ikonia> pulling the IP ?
[15:34] <ikonia> it's static, it doesn't come from anywhere
[15:34] <EriC^^> sudo ifconfig <interface> down && sudo ifconfig <interface> up ?
[15:34] <kraftb> DF3D2: Using "ifconfig" will set the IP for a short time
[15:34] <ikonia> EriC^^: no
[15:34] <daftykins> did you hand edit the interfaces file?
[15:34] <ikonia> it's controlled by network manager
[15:34] <ikonia> upping/downing the interface does nothing
[15:34] <kraftb> but soon it will get reset to the settings defined by the network manager
[15:34] <kraftb> what do you mean by: you are not using network manager?
[15:34] <DF3D2> rebooting didn't help either
[15:34] <daftykins> none of you have stopped to ask if this is a server thus rendering NM irrelevant
[15:34] <DF3D2> and my /etc/network/interfaces is correct
[15:35] <DF3D2> THIS RIG is not a server
[15:35] <ikonia> you should not be using /etc/network/interfaces
[15:35] <DF3D2> but i get the same behavior on ubuntu-server on my other rig
[15:35] <ikonia> remove all that stuff you put in and use network manager
[15:35] <ikonia> network manager will fight with that
[15:35] <daftykins> DF3D2: nice caps
[15:35] <DF3D2> how do I use network-manager ?
[15:35] <DF3D2> daftykins: what ?
[15:35] <kraftb> whats in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[15:35] <kraftb> well if you have a ubuntu desktop network manager will be used by default
[15:35] <yecril71pl> How can I connect to a shared calendar in Microsoft Exchange?
[15:35] <DF3D2> im not using unity
[15:36] <DF3D2> im using ubuntu 14.10 with i3 window manager
[15:36] <kraftb> which also leeds us to the question: which varian of ubuntu are you using?
[15:36] <ikonia> DF3D2: thats fine
[15:36] <DF3D2> my network interfaces file has: iface eth1 inet static
[15:36] <DF3D2> and then all the correct info after that
[15:36] <compdoc> what abouit eth0?
[15:36] <DF3D2> i don't have an eth0, just eth1
[15:37] <ikonia> DF3D2: remove the mapping data from /etc/network/interfaces
[15:37] <DF3D2> according to ifconfig -a
[15:37] <DF3D2> ikonia: okay
[15:37] <DF3D2> even the lo info ?
[15:37] <daftykins> no
[15:38] <compdoc> DF3D2, have you added or removed interfaces? you might look at your /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[15:38] <DF3D2> k
[15:39] <DF3D2> apparently it changed from eth0 to eth1
[15:39] <DF3D2> i commented out the old entry
[15:41] <mcphail> DF3D2: is your interface set to "auto" in /etc/network/interfaces?
[15:41] <DF3D2> mcphail: yeah
[15:41] <DF3D2> fixed it
[15:41] <DF3D2> with compdoc suggestion
[15:41] <DF3D2> thanks compdoc
[15:41] <compdoc> np
[15:42] <DF3D2> the question still lies why changing network stuff requires a reboot now
[15:42] <DF3D2> it's because im not using network-manager?
[15:43] <compdoc> I tend to reboot
[15:43] <daftykins> i figured you meant server before. server hasn't worked properly on a networking restart for ages
[15:43] <daftykins> yeah, true reboot is the only way to confirm settings anyway
[15:43] <compdoc> I like to make sure my chnages survive a reboot
[15:43] <mcphail> DF3D2: it shouldn't need a reboot. You mentioned above you were using "ifup eth0" but your interface had switched to eth1...
[15:43] <DF3D2> daftykins: I have a server also with the same behavior
[15:43] <DF3D2> mcphail: I had used ifup eth1
[15:43] <DF3D2> i know how to check ifconfig -a :-P
[15:43] <mcphail> ;)
[15:44] <DF3D2> this happened because I changed mobo's
[15:44] <daftykins> not seeing eth0 should've been a *MASSIVE* warning sign
[15:44] <DF3D2> and the udev rule pointed to the old mac address
[15:44] <DF3D2> daftykins: well on my server rig the first of the 2 gigabit nics is called em1
[15:44] <DF3D2> and the other is
[15:44] <DF3D2> p5p1
[15:44] <DF3D2> so .....
[15:45] <daftykins> but we're not talking about that one right now
[15:45] <DF3D2> oh well it's fixed now :-P easy enough
[15:45] <compdoc> DF3D2, btw, with /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules, you can delete the lines at the bottom that mention your interfaces, and reboot, and the system is supposed to rebuild those lines
[15:45] <DF3D2> compdoc: ahh good info!
[15:46] <DF3D2> I just commented out the old mac addr one
[15:46] <DF3D2> it had already added the new one
[15:46] <compdoc> thats fine too
[15:46] <DF3D2> I should have mentionedi n the beginning I installed a new mobo
[15:46] <DF3D2> :\ my fault
[15:46] <compdoc> once you edit the file manually, it should keep your changes
[15:46] <DF3D2> I just thought as long as /etc/network/interfaces was correct
[15:47] <DF3D2> it would work :-P
[15:47] <compdoc> OSes are complicated beasts
[15:47] <DF3D2> true that
[15:47] <DF3D2> atleast linux you can swap a mobo without reinstall
[15:47] <DF3D2> :-D
[15:47] <Eggs_> DF3D2: some simpler OS's can just use that file, like arch
[15:48] <DF3D2> Eggs_: ahh I see
[15:48] <DF3D2> I have tried to use arch but nothing ever worked right with uefi
[15:48] <DF3D2> too many issues
[15:48] <DF3D2> I have arch on a small atom server in a datacenter tho and it works well
[15:49] <Eggs_> DF3D2: yep its takes a lot of setting up nothing is every that simple, its good for minimal installs of things, basically nothing gets installed out of the box
[15:49] <CoC_towlie> DF3D2, Arch is way simpler then ubuntu
[15:49] <DF3D2> Eggs_: right I installed arch from scratch the other day on my new ZFS nas, and it worked with uefi and then i rebooted it and it wouldn't boot anymore
[15:49] <compdoc> ubuntu is much better, tho :)
[15:49] <DF3D2> it was working, then just stopped for no reason, so i gave up on it
[15:49] <Eggs_> DF3D2: was that with ZFS as the root partition?
[15:49] <DF3D2> so now i have ubuntu-server on it
[15:50] <CoC_towlie> only thing is that things might break since on rolling release
[15:50] <DF3D2> Eggs_: No, ext4 for root, 18TB of storage in a raidz2
[15:50] <Eggs_> DF3D2: strange, you got zfs working on ubuntuserver now? thats what im running on
[15:50] <DF3D2> Eggs_: yeah
[15:50] <DF3D2> it's very easy there is a repo
[15:50] <DF3D2> and it's just a kernel module
[15:50] <DF3D2> I have a 6x3TB zfs raidz2
[15:51] <mcphail> DF3D2: aah - is there a proper kernel module now rather than a FUSE system?
[15:51] <Eggs_> DF3D2: Yeah its awesome, ive got a similar setup but ive got 2 raidz1,
[15:51] <DF3D2> intel SB1200BTS server board, 16gb ecc ram, Xeon e3 1220 V1 :-D
[15:51] <DF3D2> mcphail: has been for some time, it's legit!
[15:51] <DF3D2> been using it for several years on ubuntu
[15:52] <mcphail> DF3D2: might need to give it a try. Playing with btrfs for the time being
[15:52] <DF3D2> I havent used bt rfs but i'd never stop using zfs
[15:52] <Eggs_> DF3D2: much more powerful than mine, ive just got a dualcore i3 and 8gb of ram, seems to work ok, ram gets capped out though with 20tb of storage
[15:52] <DF3D2> EPIC epic epic
[15:52] <DF3D2> Eggs_: nice I plan on adding 8x3tb more eventually
[15:52] <Eggs_> mcphail: ZFS on linux is much more mature than btrfs, hopefully you will find it less error prone
[15:52] <DF3D2> need to buy 2 more adaptec 1430 AAR SA cards first tho
[15:53] <Eggs_> DF3D2: im at the max capacity for my mobo, i need to get a LSI JBOD card or something similar if i want to upgrade
[15:53] <mcphail> Eggs_: i've always worried the Linux implementation would be buggy compared to Solaris. I remember the BSD version used to crumble quite easily
[15:53] <kraftb> Ok. Finally found the issue. The kernel options "nomdmonddf nomdmonisw" from /etc/default/grub.d/dmraid2mdadm.cfg where desturbing my now-mdadm raid1
[15:53] <DF3D2> Eggs_: yeah I have 6 mobo ports, and 1x Adaptec 1430 AAR SA or something raid/JBOD card and I just use it for JBOD obviously. the guy I bought the ram/mobo/cpu just gave me as well as a nice 2U case just cause.
[15:54] <DF3D2> the adaptec card works great
[15:54] <kraftb> It was dmraid before (just for testing - I had problems with dmraid back in '04) since then I always used mdadm (like before '04 :)
[15:54] <DF3D2> has 4 ports
[15:54] <kraftb> but it seems dmraid still is somewhat buggy
[15:54] <kraftb> On tuesday I just lost a whole directory without ever seeing it again
[15:54] <DF3D2> kraftb: zfs man
[15:54] <DF3D2> u can't beat it
[15:54] <Eggs_> mcphail: ive been running it for over a year now and ive had zero errors, its great because the info about the disks is stored across multiple sectors on all disks so it never corrupts
[15:55] <kraftb> I use xfs since about 10 years. When I switched from gentoo to back to ubuntu I stayed with xfs
[15:55] <kraftb> as it is developed by SGI and quite stable
[15:55] <Eggs_> DF3D2: I upgraded from a 6port mobo to an 8port as it was cheaper than the LSI card lol
[15:55] <kraftb> whats zfs good for?
[15:56] <DF3D2> Eggs_: the guy who sold me my server shit and gave me the adaptec card said he doesn't like LSI
[15:56] <Eggs_> kraftb: its great for cheap disks, its got a hash table that checks the data vs bitrot
[15:56] <DF3D2> good news is a matching adaptec card is $15 on ebay
[15:56] <DF3D2> lol
[15:56] <DF3D2>  so I can add more ports for cheap
[15:56] <daftykins> !language
[15:56] <kraftb> ok ... this wasn't the issue
[15:56] <Eggs_> DF3D2: awesome, apartently you have to flash it with some jbod firmware for zfs as you dont want the raid card trying to do anything inteligent
[15:57] <kraftb> still "Incrementally starting RAID arrays ...."
[15:57] <kraftb> message loops
[15:57] <DF3D2> Eggs_: yeah my adaptec is cool it just works in JBOD unless u tell it otherwise
[15:57] <DF3D2> really happy with it
[16:01] <Eggs_> DF3D2: awesome, got a model number for that i may have to look into it
[16:03] <DF3D2> Eggs_: yeah it's adaptec http://www.ebay.com/itm/321604677769?_trksid=p2060778.m1431.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
[16:03] <mcphail> Is anyone having much joy running nouveau as their nvidia driver whilst using HDMI? The phoronix benchmarks suggest the driver is getting quite powerful but I can't even get the machine to boot with it
[16:03] <DF3D2> I am bidding on that one, to have a second one on hand incase I want to add more drives soon
[16:03] <DF3D2> can buy one for like $17 or so also
[16:04] <Eggs_> DF3D2: Wow thats cheap, thanks
[16:06] <DF3D2> Eggs_: yeah i should just buy one outright for the $17 or whatever they are on ebay... I never win auctions lol
[16:06] <vircode> anyone help?
[16:07] <carlgo11> .ask vircode@@
[16:07] <carlgo11> oh lol sorry
[16:07]  * carlgo11 is damaged from too many support channels
[16:08] <DF3D2> http://i.imgur.com/zowZH9c.jpg
[16:08] <DF3D2> dat storage
[16:10] <Eggs_> DF3D2: dont they get super hot sitting ontop of each other?, i used to run mine in a 2u server but i swapped to a full tower
[16:10] <DF3D2> Eggs_: no, those caddies hold 3 drives and I have two in each one with a space in the middle
[16:10] <DF3D2> for total of 6x3tb
[16:11] <DF3D2> I also keep the lid off for airflow
[16:15] <__raven> 14.04lts server with cli only: no effect on free space when deleting files. issue from encrypted home folder which is not being updated? any ideas?
[16:17] <cfhowlett> !server | __raven, ask the experts =
[16:17] <surs> q
[16:23] <mimozir> service tor start
[16:23] <ST34LTH> this is random but i'm having a brain fart. after doing ssh-copy-id what key do I delete from originating server? pub or priv
[16:28] <__raven> cfhowlett: read again: encrypted home is no server specific function
[16:31] <Yoko|Work> Anyone here familiar with Remmina RDP
[16:32] <bubbasaures> !ask | Yoko|Work
[16:32] <Yoko|Work> whoops, sorry :/
[16:32] <Bazyl> hi, when i change to Thunderbird window launchpad and and top tool bar items disapear, i run ununtu 14.04LTS
[16:33] <Bazyl> how to fix it ?
[16:34] <OerHeks> Bazyl, can you make a sreenshot what you miss ?
[16:35] <OerHeks> *screenshot
[16:35] <Bazyl> ofc but how can i show it to you ?
[16:35] <nithin> Hi
[16:36] <nithin> I need assistance in installing  ubuntu on sony vaio laptop
[16:36] <OerHeks> Bazyl, paste it on http://imgur.com/
[16:36] <cfhowlett> Bazyl, paste it up!  imagechilli imgur etc ...
[16:36] <abuz_> hello
[16:36] <daftykins> nithin: explain to the channel what you've tried and where you got stuck
[16:36] <Yoko|Work> Good day!
[16:36] <bubbasaures> !screenshot | Bazyl
[16:37] <nithin> I have windows 7 installed on the same computer
[16:37] <Yoko|Work> Usuing Xubuntu 12.04 LTS with Remmina Remote Desktop Connect, is it possible to keep the top menu/system bar visible while in fullscreen during the Remote Desktop session?
[16:37] <nithin> but the ubuntu installation media is not detecting the operating system
[16:37] <nithin> I have data on the hard disk also.
[16:38] <nithin> When I tried to do the manual partition the whole disk is detected as free space
[16:38] <abuz_> I.ve just upgraded from 14.04 to 14.10, but I've a problem with boot. If I boot normally when the xbuntu splash request passphrase for luks everything I type on keyboard is visible end on top left angle of screen and it is not passed to cryptsetup, so I cant continue boot. instead if I boot in recovery mode and from it to "remume normal" everythings work. what can I see to solve this issue?
[16:38] <nithin> So I could not continue
[16:39] <daftykins> nithin: possibly you're booting EFI when you need to be booting legacy, or vice versa. have you read the EFI help page?
[16:39] <daftykins> !uefi
[16:39] <nithin> No.. I haven't read the EFI page.. I don't know what it is..
[16:41] <nithin> But I could see it somewhere in the bios page
[16:41] <nithin> do we have any document for that?
[16:42] <jhutchins> I tyhought the installer used a GPT/EFI compatible version of parted?
[16:42] <Bazyl> 0erheks, here you go http://i.imgur.com/w1gVSp7.png?1
[16:42] <morsnowski> this maybe a dense question but has the live dvd full language support, for example os & office in spanish or german?
[16:43] <Zteam> Hello!
[16:44] <Zteam> I need some help with my fstab entry, the last line I added makes Ubuntu refusing to boot
[16:44] <Bazyl> OerHeks, here you go http://i.imgur.com/w1gVSp7.png?1
[16:45] <Eggs_> ST34LTH: you can delete the public key
[16:46] <Zteam> Anybody can help me troubleshoot my fstab please_ http://pastebin.com/hYtSezGV
[16:47] <Zteam> _ >/(
[16:47] <OerHeks> Bazyl, those menu items go to top panel, when thunderbird is maximized
[16:48] <OerHeks> Bazyl, what you mean with window launchpad, i don't know
[16:49] <kraftb> Found the solution for my problem: I had to manually add "dm-mod" to /etc/initramfs-tools/modules
[16:50] <kraftb> It just bugged me that there isn't really a "dm-mod.ko" module and I assumed dm_ modules were for dmraid
[16:50] <kraftb> instead they are necessary for LVM
[16:50] <Bazyl> OerHeks, now i am on xchat and i can see and click on launchpad and also i can see the top tool bar with time, sound volume adjustment and so on... when i change (ctrl+tab) to Thunderbird it's all gone...
[16:50] <Eggs_> Zteam: have you tried to do it with pass increased to 1 or 2?
[16:50] <OerHeks> Bazyl, that changing to the top panel is called global-menu, you can disable that
[16:51] <Eggs_> Zteam: or maybe with the disk label as /dev/sdb1 just to test that
[16:51] <Zteam> Eggs_, yes I have tried with both
[16:52] <Bazyl> OerHeks, ok so items on my global-menu disapear
[16:52] <Bazyl> OerHeks, the only way to leave Thunderbird window is ctrl+tab...
[16:52] <OerHeks> Bazyl, see https://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/04/disable-the-global-menu-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/
[16:52] <OerHeks> works for 14.04 too, afaik
[16:52] <Eggs_> Zteam: what is the error message?
[16:53] <Zteam> Eggs_, Well I can test that, but that wouldnt be a solution I cloned my old failing harddrive, and now Ubuntu is refusing to starting up without it, If I don't use the uuid Ubuntu does confuse the 2 drives
[16:54] <Zteam> Eggs_, it'just telling me it tries to start plymouth
[16:54] <Zteam> Eggs_, uncommenting that line solves the issue thought.
[16:55] <Zteam> Eggs_, commenting not uncommenting I mean
[16:56] <Eggs_> Zteam: and can you mount the disk with mount  once your in?
[16:56] <Zteam> Eggs_, I assue I screwed up the fstab syntax somehow, but I don't know
[16:57] <Eggs_> Zteam: which line do you comment out to make it work?
[16:58] <AndroUser6738638> What is the difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade?
[16:59] <Zteam> Eggs_, yes :-) Please notice the system won't boot without the faling harddrive (the old one) it does however works if I have the new drive installed as well (those are both (USB-drives)
[16:59] <Zteam> Eggs_, this one UUID=12316065-d647-4fbf-b94e-827233bff900 /media/zteam/Master ext4 rw,user,exec 0       0
[17:01] <Eggs_> Zteam: Zteam looks fine to be, is the folder empty?
[17:04] <Zteam> Eggs_, nope, /media/zteam/Master is not empty, as I said before both the cloned (new drive) and the failing one (old one) works for making the system happy again
[17:04] <Zteam> Eggs_, they did have the same uuid before as well, due to ddrescue
[17:06] <Bazyl> OerHeks, it didn't help...
[17:07] <Zteam> Bazyl, window buttons is gone?
[17:08] <Bazyl> Zteam, yes
[17:08] <Bazyl> Zteam, look here http://i.imgur.com/w1gVSp7.png?1
[17:09] <Zteam> Bazyl, yes I see, try to switch to a guest account just to see what happens
[17:10] <Zteam> Bazyl, if window buttons is back there then you know the problem is related to your homefolder
[17:11] <Bazyl> Zteam,  guest account ? i don't have one...
[17:11] <Bazyl> Zteam,  or i don't know how to use it ...
[17:11] <nomadist> hi!
[17:11] <Zteam> Bazyl, there is a built-in guest account, from at least Ubuntu 12.04 as default
[17:12] <nomadist> does anyone have experience with any simple screen recording sfotware that works with gnome?
[17:12] <Zteam> Bazyl try to press CTRL-ALT-DEL at the same time, it should offer you to logout or switch user
[17:13] <Zteam> Eggs_, are u still there?
[17:13] <Zteam> nomadist, try gtkrecord-my-desktop
[17:13] <Bazyl> Zteam,  i am on ubuntu 14.04LTS with unity 7.2.3...
[17:13] <IbsinRG> Hello. I have my Software Centre stuck on 'Applying Changes' for Dropbox. It won't stop, and it's just sitting there like that right now. No idea how to fix it, or get it to finish...
[17:14] <Zteam> Bazyl, then u should have the guest account
[17:14] <nomadist> Zteam, cpu activity goes to 96%
[17:15] <nomadist> with that software
[17:15] <nomadist> Kazaam was good but there is no way to stop it
[17:15] <Bazyl> Zteam,  in system settings > user accounts i have only mine account...
[17:15] <nomadist> has anyone used kazaam with gnome?
[17:15] <Bazyl> Zteam,  should i add one ?
[17:16] <Oros108> hello! do anyone know any freeware android-root freeware like "SuperOneClock"
[17:16] <squinty> Bazyl:  to access the guest account, log off.  there should be a "Guest Account" phrase located under the field where the password is normally typed in
[17:17] <Pici> Oros108: Does this have anything to do with Ubuntu?
[17:17] <reisio> Oros108: #android
[17:18] <Bazyl> squinty, i'm pretty sure i don't have an option to log in as guest... but i'll check again... brb
[17:18] <Eggs_> Zteam: Im here, im not sure on a fix really
[17:18] <Oros108> Pici i thing ubuntu is more "community" so ty, ty reisio!!
[17:18] <squinty> Bazyl:  fwiw, personall I add an extra "Admin" account just in case I can not log on using my regular account
[17:19] <Zteam> Bazyl, otherwise you can just try open the file manager and press CTRL+H these will view all your user-profile settings highlight them and right-click and select move to Trash folder caution be sure to unmark .Thunderbird and .mozilla
[17:19] <nomadist> ah.. i just realized there is a  default screen recorder in ubuntu
[17:19] <nomadist> gnome, ctrl shift alt r
[17:19] <nomadist> and it works like a charm
[17:20] <Zteam> Bayl, this will reset all your config files, to default, which means you will loose every setting but .mozilla and .thunderbird
[17:21] <Yoko|Work> How to I remove 404 links when running apt-get update?
[17:21] <Zteam> Eggs_, okey :-)
[17:22] <squinty> Yoko|Work:  try changing mirrors and/or disable/remove ppa's via the Software and Updates manager is a couple of things to check out.
[17:23] <mmiller13_> Does anyone know why my nm-applet no-longer appears in my taskbar... I shutdown my wlan0 using ifconfig and It no longer appears after ifconfig wlan0 up command...
[17:24] <daftykins> mmiller13_: restart network manager, you probably confused it
[17:29] <mmiller13_> NetworkManager gave me a error message stating that there's not [connectivity] option in my Key file... I added this option my my config file then it gave me an error message stating I needed to add and interval option... I added an interval option of 300 nm now launched without an error, but that still doesn't help
[17:41] <g0twig> Hey
[17:41] <daftykins> hi
[17:41] <Guest16023> what is latest nvidia driver for ubuntu 14.04 ?
[17:41] <g0twig> My friend wants to use Ubuntu with his gt 750m and intel hd graphics , he needs bumblebee right?
[17:41] <daftykins> Guest16023: 331 possibly, in rpeos
[17:41] <g0twig> Which is the most recent nvidia version in ubuntu, 331?
[17:41] <daftykins> *repos
[17:41] <g0twig> ah
[17:42] <g0twig> k
[17:42] <daftykins> g0twig: no, nvidia-prime replaced bumblebee... try that first.
[17:42] <g0twig> daftykins: just nvidia-prime and than
[17:42] <daftykins> !hybrid
[17:42] <daftykins> gah
[17:42] <g0twig> daftykins: nvidia-prime and what else
[17:42] <g0twig> it didnt work for him
[17:42] <daftykins> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/HybridGraphics
[17:42] <g0twig> we installed nvidia and nvidia-prime from xorg edgers ppa
[17:43] <daftykins> ok, well i didn't say "use xorg edgers PPA" :)
[17:43] <daftykins> !ppa
[17:43] <g0twig> lightdm? no gdm??
[17:43] <daftykins> lightdm replaced gdm years ago
[17:43] <g0twig> lol its not a replacement
[17:43] <g0twig> if people use gnome shell
[17:43] <g0twig> does it not work with gdm or what
[17:43] <daftykins> i'm talking about in the default config, thus yes, in ubuntu it replaced it :)
[17:43] <g0twig> he runs gdm
[17:43] <DJones> g0twig: I use a laptop with Nvidia GT750M using nvidia-prime with no issues
[17:44] <daftykins> !pm
[17:44] <g0twig> DJones: which packages did you install
[17:44] <DJones> g0twig: nvidia-prime
[17:44] <g0twig> DJones: and
[17:45] <DJones> g0twig: Thats it
[17:45] <g0twig> DJones: no normal nvidia must be installed too
[17:45] <g0twig> at least dependency
[17:45] <DJones> g0twig: Must have been installed as part of the dependancies then
[17:46] <daftykins> g0twig: revert the setup to default and install it as described in the link earlier, then we can try and debug it.
[17:46] <daftykins> DJones: i've seen many reports of simply apt-get'ing "nvidia-prime" not picking a driver, so i think many get tripped up by this :(
[17:47] <DJones> daftykins: Thats not something I found with a fresh install of 14.10, just straight nvidia-prime has dealt with everything
[17:47] <daftykins> we're talking 14.04 here sir
[17:47] <DJones> 14.04 & 14.10 for me
[17:47] <daftykins> ah no, actually another user declared that
[17:47] <g0twig> daftykins: also remove gdm??
[17:48] <daftykins> g0twig: depends how your friend setup gnome3, i'm not really into assisting with non-default setups
[17:48] <g0twig> daftykins: its normal ubuntu
[17:49] <daftykins> right, but it's been modified
[17:49] <daftykins> = uninterested :)
[17:52] <Bazyl> Zteam, i did relog to my guest and there Thunderbird works fine...
[17:54] <Bazyl> Zteam, btw you wrote me to open file manager and move some files to trash... can you explain how can i see directories that's name starts with . (dot) in file manger ?
[17:56] <squinty> Bazyl:  ctrl H in nautilus   or View > show hidden files
[17:57] <fdassdff> Anyone know what program handles screen locking?
[17:57] <squinty> Bazyl:  fwiw, just did a dist-upgrade and new TB was offered for upgrading
[17:57] <squinty> lightlocker iirc
[17:57] <mkk> Anyone knows what filesystem does Ubuntu 14.10 (Utopic Unicorn) use?
[17:57] <daftykins> mkk: ext4...
[17:57] <mkk> thanks
[17:58] <Bazyl> squinty, thx i'll try
[18:02] <fdassdff> I think it's lightdm that does screen locking right?
[18:04] <redmimic> I'm looking to theme my login, not just change the background i believe im on gnome3 (running ubuntu 14.04) is login theming removed from gnome3 or is there a way to use a gdm login theme still?
[18:17] <g0twig> Hi, the guy with the gt 750m problem: when I run nvidia-settings it sazs PRIME: is it supported? no
[18:17] <Guma> I have img file that I need to autoresize on first boot (sd card). I can write a script to do this with fdisk/resizefs. But I am not sure where to hook it before root partition is mounted. The idea here is that root should be autoresized to take advantage of all space available on sd card. Users can have different sd card sizes. Any ideas?
[18:17] <khaya> i have ubuntu 14.04 laptop and a windows 7 in desktop connected to a router, and i want to clone the windows 7 HD to ubuntu laptop. how can i do that using clone zilla? same network group PCs
[18:17] <g0twig> i installed nvidia-313 and nvidia-prime but the graphic dont work
[18:23] <AlexQ> Hi. I'm using Ubuntu 14.10 and I am having a problem with my graphics (video), which is apparent while playing videos or displaying quickly changing graphics - looks like problem with display sync - for a fraction of a second, part of the screen is displaying the new frame, while part is still displaying the previous, apparently.
[18:23] <AlexQ> The division line is horizontal and usually somewhere in the middle of the display
[18:24] <mkk> What command does virtual file system use for deleting file? (Can't find anywhere.) Unlink, remove, delete...?
[18:24] <daftykins> AlexQ: that's called tearing. usually due to a lack of vsync, what's your graphics hardware and driver?
[18:25] <AlexQ> daftykins: Intel inbuilt, GMA 950 or sth like that. What's the best way to check that + the driver?
[18:25] <drk> hi guys. Does anyone have or had issues with no sound after suspend on ubuntu 14.04 ?
[18:25] <daftykins> AlexQ: hmm sounds pretty old. pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[18:26] <AlexQ> daftykins: It's an old laptop. http://paste.ubuntu.com/9370755/
[18:27] <AlexQ> daftykins: Oh, sorry. It's Ubuntu 14.04.1
[18:28] <AlexQ> daftykins: I've been using Ubuntu on the very same laptop a couple of years ago and there was no tearing.
[18:28] <mkk> What command does virtual file system use for deleting file? (Can't find anywhere.) Unlink, remove, delete...?
[18:29] <compdoc> virtual file system?
[18:30] <drk> but AlexQ, maybe you yoused a few years ago other video comprimation like a divx , and if you're trying to open now 720p or 1080p it'll surely be laggy
[18:30] <drk> used*
[18:30] <jeffrey_f> mkk: explain.  To the system, there should be no difference in virtual or physical file system.  Once mounted, you can do normal commands.  rm is delete.  However, use caution as there is no recovery from rm command
[18:30] <daftykins> AlexQ: yes, times change... older hardware gets less focussed on... the usual
[18:30] <AlexQ> drk: As I am saying, it's not a video playback problem. It's an graphics display problem.
[18:33] <drk> AlexQ : i don't know honestly what could be the problem, maybe try to search the forums for answers
[18:33] <drk> unlike you, i have an issue with sound after suspend on 14.04
[18:33] <AlexQ> daftykins: [    24.914] (**) intel(0): "Tear free" disabled
[18:33] <AlexQ> daftykins: Something like that in the log you asked me to send
[18:34] <AlexQ> line 152
[18:34] <daftykins> AlexQ: yeah i've spotted that one before
[18:34] <daftykins> AlexQ: ignore the version but check out - http://askubuntu.com/questions/418398/tear-free-disabled-in-intel-graphics-tearing-in-xubuntu
[18:35] <primo> I'm having issues doing a command line install. The guide says use an alternative image and select "command line install" but that's not an option. Anyone have a link?
[18:35] <daftykins> primo: mini.iso provides a network textmode installer, is that sufficient?
[18:36] <_abc_> Say, the LTS 10.04 based linuxcnc live disk, is it safe to update packages from LTS 10.04 when installing that to hdd and then setting up the system for normal use? Some packages in it are ancient.
[18:36] <primo> daftykins: from what I read, mini.iso image doesn't support uefi
[18:37] <daftykins> _abc_: "linuxcnc" ? that doesn't sound like an officially supported derivative
[18:37] <_abc_> UEFI refers to uefi boot only or is it relevant also after the system runs?
[18:37] <daftykins> primo: i would doubt that, i've done an install with it
[18:37] <AlexQ> daftykins: There is no /etc/X11/xorg.conf . Should I create it?
[18:37] <_abc_> daftykins: Well I am asking anyway. It is 10.04 LTS with realtime kernel and linuxcnc/emc2 installed
[18:37] <daftykins> AlexQ: yep
[18:37] <daftykins> AlexQ: that's the only way to set those parameters
[18:38] <daftykins> _abc_: 10.04 is only supported on server until April, then it's dead...
[18:38] <AlexQ> seems like it might work. Thanks! Rebooting
[18:39] <_abc_> daftykins: I am aware. It seems they came out with a Debian based one too now
[18:39] <primo> _abc_: If i booted in legacy mode for the install and switched back to uefi, wouldn't the installer then install the bootloader in that mode?
[18:40] <_abc_> We'll see. Anyway, would you say it's safe(ish) to use normal update procedures for 10.04 from that system? Worst thing that can happen is, I'll reinstall it. So no real risk, this is a toy machine connected to a cnc router I made
[18:40] <daftykins> primo: installs can be converted, but i don't understand why you would intentionally do it wrong to begin with
[18:40] <daftykins> !efi | primo
[18:40] <_abc_> primo: I don't know, really. UEFI is too new for certitudes like that.
[18:40] <sonetea> primo: it depends on how it partitioned
[18:40] <daftykins> _abc_: sorry, non-ubuntu = off topic here.
[18:40] <sonetea> it's*
[18:40] <_abc_> 10.04 is ubuntu right?
[18:41] <sotiredofthesest> So does anyone know what package/binary is responsible for locking the screen?  Is it lightdm?
[18:41] <SchrodingersScat> not if it's 10.04 linuxcnc
[18:41] <primo> daftykins: did you do it in legacy mode? I mean, did you install with mini.iso setup to boot using the efi partition?
[18:41] <_abc_> So I want to try. Pretend it's plain 10.04 and update packages as needed. The only thing which is sure to break linuxcnc is kernel update. So I won't do that.
[18:41] <daftykins> primo: why don't you grab it, throw it on a flash drive, boot in EFI mode and see? :)
[18:42] <sonetea> if it's automatically installing, it's going to be using mbr
[18:42] <_abc_> Is there an ubuntu not based on gnome desktop/compiz please?
[18:42] <Almis90> Guys I want to delete a file exactly 30 minutes afters its creation (cron job) what package you suggest me to use for that?
[18:43] <_abc_> Almis90: atd
[18:43] <Almis90> but I dont want to run cron every second
[18:43] <SchrodingersScat> !flavors | _abc_ a few
[18:43] <IbsinRG> Could someone please tell me the IRC channel for elementary? I can't seem to access it via the net...
[18:43] <daftykins> !elementary
[18:43] <daftykins> IbsinRG: ^
[18:44] <Almis90> abc thank you I will check it
[18:44] <IbsinRG> Thanks
[18:44] <_abc_> You don't. You do echo "rm -f /some/file"|at "now + 30min"
[18:44] <Chuck_Norris> IbsinRG: /j # elementaryos
[18:44] <Almis90> abc but I must run this script every second right?
[18:45] <_abc_> no, it queues the job and crond / atd handles it
[18:45] <primo> I might have to just try the mini.iso. I'm just frustrated the recently updated, official howto isn't accurate and I've spent so much time on it when i don't have the time for all this trial and error. I have a presentation for work in the am :/
[18:45] <_abc_> read the atd manpage
[18:45] <Almis90> abc ok
[18:45] <_abc_> Almis90: time resolution is 60 seconds
[18:46] <daftykins> primo: how is it that the docs are responsible for your delays?
[18:46] <daftykins> primo: by that, i mean is something wrong somewhere?
[18:47] <AlexQ> daftykins: Seems to be solved! Thank you
[18:48] <_abc_> Is ubuntu entirely systemd controlled now?
[18:48] <daftykins> AlexQ: excellent, do you happen to have an example link or video that exhibits the tearing? i have an old system with similar hardware on the shelf i'd like to test
[18:49] <AlexQ> daftykins: Eem, it was visible on just any video that had image changing quickly enough, especially on 'panoraming' scenes
[18:49] <primo> daftykins: it says when you boot that command line install is a presented option. That is inaccurate. Also, the docs on it are poorly organized on this topic compared to a couple other distros. Guess i just expected more from a noob-friendly distro
[18:49] <AlexQ> panning maybe* is the correct word
[18:50] <daftykins> AlexQ: ah ok panning shots in video, roger that
[18:50] <Almis90> abc yeah its exactly what I needed but is it okay to have hundreds such watchers?
[18:50] <_abc_> Almis90: It's probably okay.
[18:50] <AlexQ> daftykins: No matter what the resolution of the video was.
[18:50] <primo> The problem is my fault ultimately. I shouldn't be messing around when I knew i needed my computer functional
[18:50] <AlexQ> Btw. that laptop is capable of 720p and 1080p playback. Actually it's much better on Xubuntu with all default codecs and drivers, than on Windows 8.1 (some problems with renderer) or Windows 7 (no problems with renderer, but occasional stutter/frame rate issues)
[18:51] <daftykins> AlexQ: what's the processor?
[18:51] <chachan> hi, can I use openvpn client to connect a server through a cisco vpn?
[18:51] <AlexQ> daftykins: Some dual core 1.3GHz Pentium, CULV or sth (low voltage)
[18:52] <FreewheelinFrank> hi i want to update i2p, can i simply use console command?
[18:52] <wildwind> chachan: no, they are incompatible. Cisco has free native linux client AFAIK.
[18:53] <AlexQ> daftykins: That's an Acer 1825PTz, unfortunately with no touch panel as it's been broken.
[18:53] <chachan> wildwind: ok, thanks
[18:54] <AlexQ> daftykins: I am dual-booting with Windows 8.1 and sharing a NTFS partition between these systems. Is there any way to unmount it in Windows without the need of making a full shutdown? I've been trying to use some kind of unmounting commands, but that does not seem to physically close the filesystem as it is when doing full shutdown. Or map that partition as a removable drive instead?
[18:54] <daftykins> AlexQ: mmm pretty antique then :) lol @ running 8.1 on that, oh deary me
[18:55] <mkk> can someone explain to me what file descriptor is? In simple terms please. I have read wiki's article
[18:55] <MandaMae> Hey, can someone ansswer a question for me, I keep getting an error and have no idea how to fix it.
[18:55] <AlexQ> daftykins: Why not - it works :D It was sold with Windows 7
[18:55] <daftykins> MandaMae: not until you ask it!
[18:55] <squinty> sotiredofthesest:  see if light-locker is present on your system.      /usr/share/app-install/desktop/light-locker-settings:light-locker-settings.desktop    as mentioned before, iirc, light-locker is the default lock screen application for Ubuntu
[18:56] <MandaMae> Software can't be installed or removed because the authentication service is not available. (org.freedesktop.PolicyKit.Error.Failed: ('system-bus-name', {'name':  ':1.99'}): org.debian.apt.install-or-remove-packages
[18:56] <AlexQ> daftykins: I think now I might be having some minor issues with windows rendering when switching apps
[18:56] <daftykins> AlexQ: sorry i don't use desktop so i don't understand all that auto mounting stuff. i'm only used to manual mounts via /etc/fstab - however you can type "mount" by itself in the terminal and see the mountpoint / device name of the NTFS partition and run "sudo umount /dev/sdX#"
[18:57] <sotiredofthesest> thanks squinty
[18:57] <daftykins> MandaMae: "cat /etc/issue" ?
[18:57] <AlexQ> daftykins: I've been refering to umounting that in Windows.
[18:57] <wildwind> AlexQ: are you talking about mounting/unmounting in Windows, or in Ubuntu?
[18:58] <lorenzo_> Hello, I'm trying to get my two USB 3.0 ports on my Laptop to work. Has anybody some advice? My question is here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2255358
[18:58] <daftykins> AlexQ: oh you want it gone in Windows? just remove the drive letter allocation from diskmgmt.msc
[18:58] <AlexQ> wildwind: Windows.
[18:58] <jazzzu> hi, im trying to set up postfix to forward email for a couple of (2 for now) websites. Am i correct in my understanding that i should first configure a 'canonical domain' for the whole machine (a vps) and then add virtual alias domains for the different websites?
[18:58] <jazzzu> Im kind of new to running ubuntu server and servers in general so im just looking to see if im going in the right direction :P
[18:58] <MandaMae> Daftykins, I'm sorry what?
[18:58] <lorenzo_> Hello, I'm trying to get my two USB 3.0 ports on my Laptop to work. Has anybody some advice? My question is here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2255358
[18:58] <daftykins> MandaMae: run that in the terminal please.
[18:58] <AlexQ> daftykins: I don't want to remove it completely, just to be able to unmount and close the filesystem before hibernating/quick shutdown
[18:58] <daftykins> jazzzu: #ubuntu-server
[18:59] <daftykins> AlexQ: why?
[18:59] <MandaMae> Daftykins: "Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l"
[18:59] <AlexQ> daftykins: To be able to write to that partition on Ubuntu
[19:00] <wildwind> AlexQ: diskmgmt.msc as daftykins pointed out or mountvol in console. but it's offtopic here.
[19:01] <AlexQ> wildwind: I know it's offtopic; just thought some Ubuntu/Linux users might just have experience with that when dual booting.
[19:01] <jazzzu> daftykins: thanks ill ask it there
[19:01] <daftykins> AlexQ: just shutdown Windows properly
[19:02] <AlexQ> wildwind: I think I tried to use mountvol from console and then doing quit shutdown or hibernation, but there still was that mounting error on Ubuntu.
[19:02] <AlexQ> daftykins: Having to make a full shutdown of Windows is quite irritating. It takes much more time to both shut down and boot up; hibernation is really fast, even on that ancient hardware (Win8.1 wakes up in around 25 secs from power button press, with 10 seconds to reach GRUB, so not bad).
[19:02] <wildwind> AlexQ: I use USB drives in such cases.
[19:03] <AlexQ> Btw. how to enable hibernation in 14.04.1?
[19:04] <AlexQ> I mean, is it feasible/stable?
[19:04] <daftykins> AlexQ: i understand how it works. maybe go chat to ##windows then
[19:04] <daftykins> as mentioned it's OT here
[19:04] <sotiredofthesest> hi squinty, sorry to bother you again, but I don't have light-locker on my system
[19:05] <sotiredofthesest> squinty, how do I tell what's locking the screen then?
[19:05] <wildwind> AlexQ: what do you mean 'quick shutdown'?
[19:05] <AlexQ> wildwind: The default shutdown in Windows 8.1, I think it's called 'hybrid'.
[19:06] <wildwind> AlexQ: Oh yes.
[19:07] <_abc_> Quick shutdown means, do not spend 3 minutes doing nothing obvious then stopping the shutdown process with a modal popup asking me if I really want to shut down, because I really want to, and I was hoping it was shut down already by then.
[19:08] <_abc_> Iow emulating Windows' habit to take its sweet time shutting down is NOT a desirable feature in Ubuntu. It should ask immediately or not at all.
[19:09] <AlexQ> _abc_: My Xubuntu shuts down really quickly. It's almost like a power-off xD When I shut down with Chromium left open (or running in background), it reports that it was not closed properly, so strange.
[19:10] <FreewheelinFrank> hi i want to update i2p, can i simply use console command?
[19:10] <EriC^^> _abc_: i think the quick shutdown is hibernate
[19:10] <EriC^^> _abc_: you don't want that
[19:11] <AlexQ> _abc_: EriC^^: What "quick shutdown" are you guys talking about? And in what OS?
[19:11] <MandaMae> how do I check PolicyKit Authentication Agent in Startup Programs, Sorry to sound stupid but I don't know where to go, I've only used Mint.
[19:12] <EriC^^> AlexQ: win8
[19:13] <wildwind> AlexQ: you coined it 5 min. before :)
[19:14] <AlexQ> EriC^^: Then no, it's not hibernate. I mean hybrid shutdown, the default shutdown in Windows 8 and 8.1. As you can guess, it's kind of a hybrid of normal shutdown and hibernation. It does not preserve state of programs etc.
[19:15] <AlexQ> EriC^^: Apparently, it also does not close filesystems on local drives.
[19:15] <EriC^^> AlexQ: ah ok, yeah it's a sort of hibernate without saving the programs
[19:17] <AlexQ> sort of a partial hibernation.
[19:17] <EriC^^> yeah
[19:17] <EriC^^> it's satan's shutdown
[19:17] <EriC^^> :P
[19:17] <AlexQ> EriC^^: But boots up quickly :P
[19:17] <Azitrex> how much Ram required for installing ubuntu 14.04 amd64 ?
[19:20] <AlexQ> yeah, now hibernation on Xubuntu works and it is satan-quick..
[19:21] <AlexQ> wonder why it's disabled by default, though...
[19:21] <compdoc> you sold your soul to the devil?!
[19:21] <MeerLin> hi there :)
[19:22] <k1l> AlexQ: i bet due to massive issues due to manufacturers not going with the standards.
[19:23] <Vespian> Anyone here familiar with accessing data from a serial device? http://pastebin.com/hQfEuGFE
[19:25] <_abc_> Vespian: baud base is not what you use as speed
[19:25] <_abc_> Vespian: try 19200 and 9600
[19:25] <_abc_> 19200 9600 and 115200 are the most used speeds.
[19:26] <_abc_> Also press ENTER once connected, see if there is a response.
[19:26] <_abc_> Like a prompt.
[19:26] <ralph4100> I have a server running ubuntu 12.04 ... it has python 2.7.5 on it. I'd like to update it to python 2.7.8 or, alternatively, have python 2.7.8 available for virtualenvs to use ... have not been able to identify whether multiple versions of python 2.7 can exist and if so, how?
[19:27] <VelhoP4_> I just noted a deficient translation in the apt-get manual. the portuguese text didnt make sense, so i checked the english manual to understand. How can I report it?
[19:27] <Vespian> _abc_: Still no results.
[19:28] <Vespian> _abc_: Hang on, in dmeg I'm getting all kinds of failure messages. I'll paste bin.
[19:29] <_abc_> technically, if I upgrade any normal user mode package in ubuntu, it should not pull in a new kernel as a dependency, right?
[19:31] <EriC^^> _abc_: if you upgrade it can't pull anything new or remove anything i think
[19:31] <EriC^^> _abc_: unless you run dist-upgrade
[19:31] <_abc_> Okay, thanks.
[19:31] <Vespian> _abc_: http://pastebin.com/0YSvDiDj
[19:32] <_abc_> Vespian: set no handshake in screen
[19:33] <_abc_> Vespian: use something other than screen for this. minicom should work. Select no handshake.
[19:34] <Vespian> _abc_: I don't like the UI of minicom. I'll use cutecom instead.
[19:34] <trism> VelhoP4_: in: man apt-get; ? the manpage is in the apt package, so you could report it in ubuntu with: ubuntu-bug apt; it is probably unchanged from debian though
[19:34] <_abc_> whatever. Select no handshake and try the baud speeds in turn one by one, in each new speed, press enter.
[19:34] <_abc_> See if you get an answer.
[19:34] <_DeLa_> hi there
[19:36] <_DeLa_> this question might seem very naive to most of you, but I'll ask it anyway: is it possible to infect once ubuntu 14.04 based pc with any kind of malware by simply pluging in an infected usb stick and do nothing exept open some png-images files from the usb stick?
[19:37] <VelhoP4_> trism, so the source is debian? i checked other parts of the manual, the portuguese version in very complicated to read. Ive noticed that the english version is nice and simple. The translations seems to be done by google translate...
[19:37] <_abc_> No _DeLa_ , unless the usb stick was manipulated and is now more than a usb stick.
[19:38] <BluesKaj> _DeLa_, or it cam affect any windows installs on your network, or so I've heard
[19:38] <ikeboy> I can't change my grub settings; when i edit them and run sudo update-grub, nothing happens
[19:38] <ikeboy> anyone know why that can happen?
[19:39] <drk> can someone help me with some sound issues
[19:39] <_DeLa_> _abc_: BluesKaj: thanks for your answers
[19:39] <drk> i can't listen to music via headphones
[19:39] <drk> when I plug them out everything works fin
[19:39] <trism> VelhoP4_: well, the source is in ubuntu too, it's just one of those things that should also be fixed in debian and then filter back into ubuntu. I'm sure they would be very happy to get a better translation, and an ubuntu bug would be a good start either way
[19:39] <hikenboot_> ServerSage, do you know how to enable the loggin in ndb...I used the transactionlog = /var/log or transactionlog = /var/log/nbd.log and put it in the generic section but it doesnt seem to create a log
[19:40] <BluesKaj> make sure there's no #in front of the lines you're editing, ikeboy
[19:40] <ikeboy> it's not that
[19:40] <ikeboy> could my grub be installed in the wrong place or something?
[19:40] <_abc_> Vespian: one more thing: there is no guarantee the sim card reader uses a plain ascii protocol.
[19:41] <ikeboy> the file is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9371580/
[19:42] <ikeboy> and grub doesn't start automatically, I need to press enter to start ubuntu
[19:42] <rago> @drk I had the same problem, go the sound settings and increase the volume for your head/ear phone
[19:42] <_DeLa_> my question had the following background: today, I plugged in an usb stick to transfer a few png files whose owner (windows user) later told me that the stick was probably infected...at first I didn't worry of course, but then I remembered that around the time of plugging in the stick there was wine window openend stating some kind of update....wine itself wasn't opened but the window was deifinetly there....so I was quite scared...what happened? maybe
[19:42] <_DeLa_> there was some autorun on the usb stick that resulted in the wine window?
[19:42] <drk> @rago, I did that and nothing changes
[19:43] <BluesKaj> ikeboy, when you update grub is there any output?
[19:44] <trism> VelhoP4_: you might also want to talk to the people in #ubuntu-doc they might be able to help you out
[19:44] <ikeboy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9371627/
[19:44] <VelhoP4_> trism, thanks friend
[19:46] <_abc_> _DeLa_: I don't know what you did, and yes, wine should not run when you stick in a stick. But autorun is not interpreted by ubuntu normally.
[19:46] <ed67543> hi, can I connect to computers (both running mint kde) with hdmi cable(Ineed to transfer large files)? I have a cable that says "hdmi high speed with etherner" ?
[19:46] <ed67543> two*
[19:47] <_abc_> _DeLa_: So it can be a manipulated usb stick too.
[19:47] <BluesKaj> ikeboy, that url is not what asked you about
[19:47] <_abc_> _DeLa_: Manipulated by a virus or by someone
[19:48] <ikeboy> BluesKaj: you asked for output on update-grub, right?
[19:48] <BluesKaj> yes
[19:48] <_DeLa_> _abc_: should scanning my whole system with bitdefender or clamtk put me on the safe side?
[19:48] <ikeboy> what command should i run?
[19:48] <krasnayarsk> If I wanted to create a virtual machine to test a modification of my installation, to see if what I can expect if I actually made the changes to my computer, how would I create the virtual machine? Would I need to make a copy of my installed system to an empty partition? I am new to this so bare with me.
[19:50] <BluesKaj> ikeboy, ok got it now ...exactly what are you trying to edit in grub?
[19:50] <ikeboy> the last line was supposed to make grub start ubuntu without input, but my grub just waits until I press enter
[19:51] <krasnayarsk> Maybe I should ask in Linux.
[19:52] <_abc_> _DeLa_: maybe. Yes you should do that. But I would look in syslog where wine should have left a mark. Scroll or search for about the wall clock time when it happened.
[19:52] <confrey> hi everybody
[19:52] <in_deep_thought> can someone give me help on installing ubuntu? I have the iso file on my usb stick, I put in in my computer, I booted it, I went to the bios, now I need to find the usb stick in the bios. Where Do I look? Under Select boot device, all I See is a virtual device I presume it uses normally. Where can I find physical devices?
[19:53] <backbox> hi
[19:53] <BluesKaj> ikeboy just edit this line and change the number, GRUB_TIMEOUT="10"
[19:53] <_DeLa_> _abc_: will do! thanks so much!
[19:54] <ikeboy> changed it to 1, but why would 1 work and not 10?
[19:54] <confrey> I need some help to manage rub, efi, and windows8; I've just installed 14.04, but I gt a fatal error about installing bootloader, and now I don't know exactly what to do; I started ubuntu manually from grub menu by a usb key, how may I install grub in uefi mode properly?
[19:55] <confrey> in_deep_thought, is your pc uefi or legacy stadard?
[19:55] <BluesKaj> ikeboy, the last last line is the problem,I think, just comment it
[19:55] <_abc_> _DeLa_: Okay my wine does not log in syslog. Also you can search for files changed since then, using find ... -ctime -1 for files changed in the last day
[19:56] <ikeboy> I added the last line yesterday after coming here. It was supposed to fix the problem, but didn't
[19:56] <ikeboy> it wasn't the problem as i had the same problem before I added it also
[19:57] <_DeLa_> _abc_:  could you please write the exact terminal command? ctime -1 doesn't work
[19:58] <_abc_> find ~ -ctime -1 searches changed files in your home dir. Likewise f.ex. ctime -1 /media/somevolume searches that
[19:58] <_abc_> There's also mtime and atime depending on what exactly you think you are looking for
[19:58] <in_deep_thought> confrey: how do I check that/find out?
[20:00] <BluesKaj> in_deep_thought, how old is your pc?
[20:00] <in_deep_thought> dell precision t5600
[20:00] <in_deep_thought> i think its pretty new
[20:01] <BluesKaj> since 2010?
[20:01] <in_deep_thought> yeah
[20:01] <BluesKaj> then it's probly uefi/bios
[20:02] <in_deep_thought> good to know. so would I find the usb stick under “select boot device” and if so, why is there only 1 virtual drive listed there?
[20:02] <Vespian> _abc_: I give up on this for today. I'll try again on Monday.
[20:03] <_abc_> Vespian: Interesting you brought this up, I also have a sim usb card reader buried somewhere in a box. I'll see what it does.
[20:03] <EriC^^> in_deep_thought: where?
[20:03] <_DeLa_> re...args
[20:03] <BluesKaj> in_deep_thought, in the uefi/bios do you see the boot section , is the hard drive listed or cdrom ?
[20:04] <in_deep_thought> Its under Ctrl Mgmt
[20:04] <in_deep_thought> there is also PD Mgmt
[20:04] <in_deep_thought> VD Mgmt
[20:04] <in_deep_thought> and Properties
[20:05] <BluesKaj> in_deep_thought, in most uefi/bios it's the second last section moving from left to right
[20:05] <confrey> in_deep_thought, I think you must press a key to access to boot menu at startup, in my lenovo I do that by pressing F12, a menu appears, with window bootloader, USB efi, nd other voices about IPV4 (NO MATTER) at that point I choose USB efi and PC starts from usb stick
[20:05] <in_deep_thought> BluesKaj: right thats Ctrl Mgmt
[20:06] <in_deep_thought> confrey: I have done that, thats how I entered this BIOS thing I am in. I need to figure out how to put the USB stick as the “boot device”, but all thats currently listed is a VD (virtual drive?)
[20:07] <BluesKaj> in_deep_thought, guess not , you must have a booot section that lists the real drives on the pc not the virtuals
[20:07] <confrey> in_deep_thought, I can't help you better... sorry, each BIOS might have a different interface,
[20:08] <in_deep_thought> BluesKaj: I have PD management. That lists 4 Sata drives. But I see no usb drive
[20:08] <BluesKaj> in_deep_thought, try the legacy mode
[20:09] <in_deep_thought> BluesKaj: is that something I would change on the BIOS im in? or a different button I press upon starting the comp?
[20:10] <alex_217> wtf
[20:11] <BluesKaj> in_deep_thought, do you see a listing for uefi mode or some such, choose that and dialog with legacy as another option should open
[20:11] <bubbasaures> alex_217, Do not swear here.
[20:12] <in_deep_thought> ah ha F2 says entering setup. rather than F12 which says preparing one time boot menu
[20:12] <bubbasaures> this is not twitter
[20:12] <BluesKaj> oh lord, I thought you were actaully in the bios
[20:13] <in_deep_thought> BluesKaj: yep Im a dangus. well this is looking better
[20:13] <alex_217> bubbasaures: Man, where is twitter ?
[20:14] <in_deep_thought> well uhhh not 100% better. the setup screen is like turquoise and flashing giving me a seizure. Not purple and orange and relaxing
[20:16] <in_deep_thought> Is there anything about flashing the usb stick froma  mac onto /dev/disk1 that might “mess up” my version of ubuntu? this one seems not right
[20:16] <EriC^^> in_deep_thought: try it on another pc
[20:19] <azizLIGHT> how come i cant delet things to a trash can on secondary hard drive? i have it mounted via /etc/fstab using this line: UUID=98E607E0E607BE0E /media/aziz/Backup ntfs-3g defaults 0 0
[20:19] <rjonesx1> what user does cron run as in ubuntu?
[20:20] <azizLIGHT> it asks me to delete them forever
[20:20] <in_deep_thought> ahh man. now I have to figure out how to enter the bios on this other machine. Its not F12 or F2 this time
[20:20] <EriC^^> rjonesx1: i think the user's cron
[20:20] <in_deep_thought> each computer needs to have instructions for entering the bios imprinted onto the case
[20:22] <rjonesx1> I am trying to run a simple php script via cron (php /var/www/html/create.crawl.php). When I run from the command line, it works, when I run from crontab, it fails... weird
[20:23] <_abc_> Use the full path for php and set the environment and run directory right.
[20:23] <_abc_> in the script.
[20:24] <BluesKaj> in_deep_thought, sometimes it's Fn+F2
[20:25] <in_deep_thought> BluesKaj it was F12 but I was pressing F2 as well which was making it not work. In any case  the installer works fine on another computer. I guess its the computer and not the stick thats the issue
[20:25] <Lucax> When I type a command in terminal and nothing happens, what does it mean? it worked or didn't work?
[20:25] <tigerpledd> Hello! Have anything changed with regards to the sound drivers within the last month or so? I've been on a break from ubuntu and when I came back everything (sound from all sources, javascript, flash, sometimes graphics.) stutters. My CPU/GPU is far from maxed, and I've confirmed the issue is there on the fresh install (newly downloaded image) of Xubuntu 14.04 LTS both befopre and after updates.
[20:25] <EriC^^> Lucax: which command?
[20:26] <Lucax> sudo sh -c 'echo "deb  https://opensource.conformal.com/packages/ubuntu/$(lsb_release  -rs)/\$(ARCH)/ ./" > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/conformal.list
[20:26] <Lucax> that command
[20:26] <BluesKaj> Lucax, which command?
[20:26] <Lucax> I am trying to install Cyphertite
[20:26] <EriC^^> Lucax: check if it was written with cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/conformal.list
[20:27] <in_deep_thought> Lucax: I  think its because you aren’t closing the quotations. It expects more entries before it executes anything? idk just my noob guess
[20:30] <Lucax> eric: what do you mean? how do I check that, I am just a beginner following an installation proceedure even though the command is long it doesn't tell me much
[20:30] <EriC^^> Lucax: if it returned nothing then it probably worked
[20:30] <EriC^^> Lucax: you can check the contents of the file it wrote to with cat
[20:31] <EriC^^> Lucax: you should get the deb https://....  if you run cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/conformal.list
[20:32] <Guest2710> Anal sex http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Odsgr2ekg8U
[20:33] <tigerpledd> So nothing new on the sound side? Because everything was fine like a month ago.
[20:34] <Lucax> how to I check the content of that file and how do i get the deb https://....as you mentioned?
[20:34] <EriC^^> Lucax: open a terminal and type cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/conformal.list
[20:35] <Lucax> no such file or directory
[20:35] <Lucax> which is the answer I wanted I guess
[20:35] <Lucax> nothing happened
[20:35] <EriC^^> Lucax: did your command end with ' ?
[20:36] <Lucax> no
[20:36] <EriC^^> hmm
[20:36] <EriC^^> ok try ending the command with '
[20:36] <Lucax> should I end it with ?
[20:36] <Lucax> I mean '
[20:36] <Lucax> ok
[20:37] <Lucax> ok, now it looks like this : >
[20:37] <Lucax> >
[20:37] <Lucax> that's all
[20:38] <EriC^^> ok, press ctrl+c
[20:38] <EriC^^> are you typing sudo sh -c ' ?
[20:38] <Lucax> ok back to normal, what does it mean when > happens?
[20:38] <EriC^^> it's waiting for you to continue the command i think
[20:38] <Lucax> I didn't type sudo sh-c' yet no
[20:39] <EriC^^> ok i meant in the first command, did it end with ' ?
[20:39] <EriC^^> ( not the cat one )
[20:40] <Lucax> here: https://www.cyphertite.com/download.php?os=ubuntu
[20:40] <Lucax> this is the whole installation
[20:40] <EriC^^> it's no problem
[20:41] <Lucax> I don't see any '
[20:41] <chriswardy> wow this is cool
[20:41] <EriC^^> Lucax: there's a ' after sudo sh -c ' and at the end of the command
[20:41] <chriswardy> so what you guys doing ?
[20:41] <BluesKaj> Lucax, so you ran the the other commands on the page as well
[20:42] <Azitrex> i want to install ubuntu server on a PC but when ubuntu ask me which repo i want to select and then if ubuntu can not to connect to it dont continue to next levels ! how can i to ignore this level ? (ubuntu server 13.04 amd64 )
[20:42] <in_deep_thought> has anyone ever seen this before? the installer screen is turqoise and flashing. Not purple like it is on most computers. The display was displaying other things fine, except for when it gets to the installer. Could it be a corrupted iso? Why would it work on other computers and not this one?
[20:42] <EriC^^> Lucax: type ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[20:43] <EriC^^> Lucax: see if conformal.list shows up
[20:43] <EriC^^> in_deep_thought: try pressing ctrl+alt+f1 then alt+f7
[20:44] <Lucax> yes I ran all the commands blueskaj, but it ends with: unable to locate package and suggest me to do apt-get update but I did it allready
[20:44] <_DeLa_> re
[20:44] <_DeLa_> args....college wifi...
[20:44] <_DeLa_> where is the channel log please?
[20:45] <Lucax> Yes! eric, conformal list shows up
[20:45] <in_deep_thought> EriC^^: ummm it stays turquoise, opens a comand prompt I think (hard to tell), and is filling out ****************’s like crazy
[20:45] <Pici> !logs| _DeLa_
[20:45] <MasterPiece> !log
[20:45] <EriC^^> Lucax: ok, does sudo apt-get update work?
[20:45] <MasterPiece> !help
[20:45] <in_deep_thought> the alt+f7 thing just opened a menu, but didn’t change the turqouise’dness
[20:46] <kanzie> I have a USB 4TB that suddenly seems to have lost its partition table and Im trying to figure out what is wrong and how to fix it using parted. Its asking me to provide start and end, how do I know start and end sector?
[20:46] <kanzie> a print shows partition table: gpt, lists the lvm however the field for file system is blank
[20:46] <Lucax> no
[20:46] <Azitrex> !logs| MasterPiece
[20:46] <Lucax> there is an error
[20:46] <_DeLa_> thanks!
[20:46] <EriC^^> Lucax: what's the error?
[20:46] <MasterPiece> Azitrex, :D
[20:46] <Lucax> Failed to fetch https://opensource.conformal.com/packages/ubuntu/14.04/i386/./Packages  HttpError404
[20:47] <Lucax> Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[20:47] <Lucax> that was the error
[20:47] <MasterPiece> Azitrex, I was in trying to tell that to _De-La_ ;)
[20:47] <EriC^^> Lucax: looks like it has an error in the deb format
[20:47] <_DeLa_> errm...
[20:47] <_DeLa_> how do I find ~ -ctime -1 searches changed files in my home dir?
[20:47] <_DeLa_> (newbie-question)
[20:47] <nuke1989> i have a cannon printer connected to my ZTE router with wifi. But ubuntu can see the printer on the network no matter what. nmap shows nothing. router shows the ip of the printer i think. The printer works in access mode however.
[20:48] <MasterPiece> _DeLa_, $man find
[20:48] <EriC^^> Lucax: https://opensource.conformal.com/packages/ubuntu/
[20:48] <_DeLa_> MasterPiece: is this a terminal command?
[20:48] <EriC^^> Lucax: it doesn't look like 14.04 is supported
[20:48] <Pici> p/36
[20:48] <Lucax> aha
[20:48] <Lucax> maybe the tarball got it?
[20:48] <EriC^^> Lucax: maybe check if you can use the 12.04 package instead or something
[20:48] <MasterPiece> _DeLa_, Yes, the findutils package provide's "find" command and the "man find" command is the man page for that
[20:49] <EriC^^> Lucax: look into it further
[20:49] <MasterPiece> _DeLa_, Read the find manual page for checking CTime , Atime, Mtime ;)
[20:51] <munta_> hello!
[20:51] <Lucax> how is it with tarballs, there is an install.sh. isn't there something like cd make or something?
[20:51] <Azitrex> i want to install ubuntu server on a PC but when ubuntu ask me which repo i want to select and then if ubuntu can not to connect to it dont continue to next levels ! how can i to ignore this level ? (ubuntu server 13.04 amd64 )
[20:52] <_DeLa_> MasterPiece: thanks!
[20:52] <daftykins> Lucax: that shell script often includes 'make' :P
[20:52] <daftykins> Lucax: but you shouldn't really be installing software that way if you can help it
[20:52] <bubbasaures> Azitrex, 13.04 id eol
[20:52] <bubbasaures> is*
[20:52] <daftykins> Azitrex: use 14.04.1 server, as it is LTS
[20:53] <BluesKaj> Lucax, there's usually a readme file in the extracted folder giving install instructiomns
[20:53] <bubbasaures> Azitrex, Use 12.04 or 14.04, both have 5 years support
[20:53] <BluesKaj> err instructions
[20:54] <EriC^^> Lucax: you could use this to get the 12.04 package, i don't think apt would install any older dependencies, so you could try grabbing the package and see if the dependencies are satisfied, anyways use at your own risk.. sudo sh -c 'echo "deb  https://opensource.conformal.com/packages/ubuntu/12.04/\$(ARCH)/ ./" > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/conformal.list
[20:55] <BluesKaj> calling it a day ...take care
[20:55] <EriC^^> ( add a ' to the end )
[20:55] <bubbasaures> Lucax, Be sure to check the ubuntu repos before installing binaries or apps, it might be there already.
[20:55] <bubbasaures> installing via tar...etc
[20:55] <spelter> Is anyone familiar with the dd command for creating bootable disks? I am attempting to copy 4 partitions but not an entire drive, will this command take the MBR and the partition table?
[20:56] <Azitrex> bubbasaures, daftykins , i want to installed ubuntu server (amd64) on a PC without internet and network interface but if 14.04 had a level similar to 13.04 that want to connected to a repo and if dont lucky dont continued i dont want to downlaod it , if could i to ignore this level please say me for download and use it thanks :)
[20:56] <EriC^^> spelter: do you want the mbr and partition table?
[20:56] <spelter> yes
[20:56] <EriC^^> is it msdos?
[20:56] <spelter> but not a 2 TB NTFS partition
[20:57] <spelter> its linux
[20:57] <bubbasaures> Azitrex, Can you try that again and make sense? ;)
[20:57] <daftykins> Azitrex: err as long as you select minimal it should work from the server ISO. can't confirm that though.
[20:57] <bubbasaures> Azitrex, 13.04 is not supported is all, and unsafe to just use.
[20:57] <spelter> its actually a router OS and swap space, etc
[20:58] <Kurvivor> hello. Is there a good program for getting a list of all the machines on my network?
[20:58] <Kurvivor> preferably one with easy setup
[20:58] <Kurvivor> that won;t ask for root permissions (like opennms does)
[20:58] <Azitrex> ok bubbasaures and daftykins , but i want to know can i to install "14.04 server" without internet or no ?
[20:59] <bubbasaures> Azitrex, Yes, not with a mini however.
[20:59] <OerHeks> Azitrex, sure, but you will not have any software to run
[21:00] <daftykins> Azitrex: that is what i just replied to. read it again.
[21:00] <EriC^^> Kurvivor: nmap?
[21:01] <Lucax> to install a tar is it usual to go to the directory where the downloaded files are and execute the commands from there?
[21:01] <jiffe> so here's a question, I see logrotate in cron.daily but not cron.hourly, so by default does that mean the hourly option is useless?
[21:02] <EriC^^> Lucax: yeah
[21:02] <OerHeks> Lucax, there is no 'install a tar', just unpacking
[21:02] <Lucax> I see
[21:03] <Vespian> 0erHeks: I think he's talking about './configure', 'make' and 'makefile'.
[21:03] <Kurvivor> EriC^^: if i understand correctly, for Ubuntu i shoul build it from sources, yes?
[21:03] <OerHeks> most tar's have a license and read.me
[21:03] <Azitrex> thanks a lot , let's to download 14.04 server amd64 with a turtle internet speed :)
[21:03] <Lucax> well this has no readme or install? wonder what to do=
[21:03] <bubbasaures> Lucax, What is it?
[21:03] <EriC^^> Lucax: where did you get it from?
[21:04] <EriC^^> Kurvivor: no, sudo apt-get install nmap
[21:04] <EriC^^> Kurvivor: zenmap if you want a gui
[21:04] <Lucax> https://www.cyphertite.com/download.php?os=unix
[21:04] <Lucax> from here
[21:05] <Lucax> it has an install.sh
[21:05] <EriC^^> https://www.cyphertite.com/download.php?os=source
[21:05] <Lucax> oh great, thanks
[21:05] <EriC^^> if i were you i'd take my chances with the 12.04 dep
[21:06] <EriC^^> it was updated on oct 2014 as well
[21:06] <EriC^^> so you're basically doing the same thing except the hard way
[21:06] <Lucax> Yes, whichever way is easiest for beginner to install
[21:06] <Kurvivor> EriC^^: thanks. Will look into it
[21:06] <EriC^^> *i mean .deb
[21:07] <Lucax> Ok, could you walk a baby through?
[21:07] <Vespian> I wish there were a way to execute 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get autoclean' without having to type in a password. Ahah
[21:07] <EriC^^> Vespian: you only have to type it once
[21:07] <Vanny> Hello!
[21:07] <bubbasaures> Lucax, Did you see their wiki link. https://opensource.conformal.com/wiki/cyphertite_installation#Ubuntu
[21:07] <EriC^^> Vespian: well, unless it takes more than 15mins or so
[21:07] <bubbasaures> I would try the deb myself Lucax
[21:07] <EriC^^> Vespian: add apt-get to the sudoers list with NOPASSWD
[21:08] <Vanny> How are you all? :)
[21:08] <EriC^^> Vespian:  i think the upgrade isn't necessary after dist-upgrade
[21:09] <ventanitas> hi
[21:09] <manoel> Hello! I m  brazilian
[21:09] <ventanitas> hi i m mexico
[21:09] <Vanny> I just switched to linux (Mint) . I love it lots aside a few issues with battery. Thank you all so much
[21:09] <Vespian> EriC^^: Ah yes. You are right.
[21:09] <ventanitas> what
[21:09] <manoel> como esta
[21:10] <ventanitas> ??
[21:10] <ventanitas> bien y vos
[21:10] <manoel> Tambien
[21:10] <Pici> !es
[21:10] <ventanitas> que bueno
[21:10] <ventanitas> webos
[21:10] <manoel> Mi sistema no consigo pongar en potugues
[21:10] <OerHeks> Vanny, ubuntu didn't make Mint.
[21:11] <Pici> !pt
[21:11] <ventanitas> Puro español
[21:11] <ventanitas> Puro spanish
[21:12] <Vanny> OerHeks: Oh my apologies, the chat on the start page linked here. I hear its based of ubuntu? Anyways. Sorry for the confusion :/
[21:12] <ventanitas> hello whats your name)
[21:12] <ventanitas> ?
[21:12] <retroispresto> i've decided to try upgrading from 8.04.4 to 10.04.4
[21:12] <Pici> ventanitas: #ubuntu is for support with Ubuntu itself, if you are looking to chat, check out #ubuntu-offtopic or perhaps #ubuntu-es-offtopic
[21:12] <retroispresto> then see where to go after that
[21:13] <retroispresto> because they are both LTS
[21:13] <ventanitas> No english
[21:13] <retroispresto> and 8.04 and 10.04 are both gnome 2
[21:14] <EriC^^> e
[21:14] <EriC^^> o
[21:14] <EriC^^> l
[21:14] <ventanitas> hello eric
[21:14] <retroispresto> i know they're eol, but i'm still running 8.04.4 lts
[21:15] <retroispresto> a jump straight to a supported version would probably render the system unusable
[21:15] <EriC^^> well i'm rooting for you
[21:15] <EriC^^> fwiw
[21:16] <Kurvivor> nmap seems confusing. oh well. I will try to read the manuals and try to understand how to discover everything in my local network, then
[21:16] <EriC^^> Kurvivor: zenmap is the gui for nmap it's very easy and intuitive
[21:16] <retroispresto> !define intuitive
[21:17] <retroispresto> D:
[21:17] <ventanitas_> no english!!!!
[21:17] <retroispresto> now i have to use effort .-.
[21:17] <ventanitas_> >:D
[21:17] <Kurvivor> EriC^^: well, it is easy in representing results of nmap runs
[21:17] <Kurvivor> but all i get is 'Host seems down'
[21:18] <EriC^^> Kurvivor: you have to add the -Pn or something
[21:18] <EriC^^> to the command it's running
[21:18] <Kurvivor> and i don't really know how to discover other ips in my local network
[21:18] <retroispresto> ping 192.168.1.1
[21:19] <ventanitas> hola
[21:19] <Kurvivor> 100% packat loss
[21:19] <retroispresto> Hint: if your using ping to check your network connection, you can add -c [number of times you want it to ping]
[21:20] <Kurvivor> or rather i should, otherwice it is Ctrl-C time
[21:20] <ventanitas_> hwello   how is there
[21:20] <Kurvivor> could you explain what command should i use to try and determine what IPs are there in my local network?
[21:21] <retroispresto> On Windows if you press CTRL + ALT + DELETE it reboots the computer instantly. It doesn't work after it's in the desktop
[21:21] <retroispresto> Only when booting up~
[21:21] <daftykins> Kurvivor: sudo nmap -sP 192.168.0.x-y (where x is the first IP and y is the last (e.g. .1-254)
[21:21] <Lucax> i am trying to build from source now
[21:21] <retroispresto> Lucax: what from source?
[21:22] <Lucax> and it says: no such file or directory when there certainly is such a file or directory
[21:22] <Lucax> cyphtertite
[21:22] <ary> k1l
[21:22] <Kurvivor> daftykins: thanks a lot!
[21:22] <ary> k1l, are you there mate?
[21:23] <EriC^^> Lucax: yeah?
[21:23] <bubbasaures> Lucax, Did you read the wiki?
[21:23] <Lucax> I read the wiki
[21:23] <retroispresto> Kurvivor, if you ping you could always open another terminal, type xkill and hit the pinging terminal
[21:23] <Lucax> wiki tells nothing more than what the website does
[21:23] <retroispresto> or if your on a eol version of ubuntu, just click the kill icon in the task bar :P
[21:23] <bubbasaures> Lucax, Did you see the extra packages to install possibly?
[21:24] <bubbasaures> the wiki is more detailed on the install Lucax
[21:24] <bubbasaures> both the tar or deb
[21:24] <Lucax> yes, that is what I liked, there was just this sudo apt-install and a ginormous list of packages install in a second
[21:25] <retroispresto> Lucax
[21:25] <Lucax> but still it tells me No such file or directory when I execute tar zvxf cyphertite-full-2.0.4.tar.gz in the respective directory
[21:25] <retroispresto> sudo apt-get install [package] --no-install-recommends
[21:25] <bubbasaures> Lucax, Did you try the deb?
[21:26] <bubbasaures> Lucax, Really there is no 14.04 release, I assume you're running 14.04.
[21:26] <Lucax> no I am confused
[21:26] <Lucax> haha
[21:26] <Lucax> so that means I am trying to build from source something that doesn't exist?
[21:27] <retroispresto> how can i make it default to not install any recommended packages?
[21:28] <bubbasaures> Lucax, Hard to say, as you cannot really give exacting details, and have no real experience it seems in this area, and probably don;t know the cd to folders process.
[21:28] <bubbasaures> That's all okay it just makes it hard to help.
[21:29] <retroispresto> I have a beast Mac o.o
[21:29] <Lucax> yes, maybe I am too eager. back to command line for dummies, haha!
[21:29] <retroispresto> It can compile wine and all of it's dependancies with one -j in about 7 minutes
[21:30] <bubbasaures> Lucax, We want to help, some are just better than others in specific areas and deciphering the users processes. ;)
[21:30] <ary> Hi. Some time ago i had a problem with libreoffice and was sayed that the problem was my video memory. So I bouth a new motherboard because my old mb passed out. But this new motherboard have Radeon 3000 integrated video chipset, and i have installed the fglrx from ubuntu repos, but those drivers are not so fine. I know that this integrated video chipset can be too much better then it is now. I think that the driver is not the proper driver. I
[21:30] <ary> t is using Xorg to render the video. How can I install the proper driver for this card?
[21:31] <daftykins> ary: your card is unsupported by fglrx
[21:31] <daftykins> ary: you have no choices, you're better off buying a simple cheap card to put in that system - the 3000 is not supported on any ubuntu version that is still supported
[21:32] <Lucax> So let's start from scratch, I can build from source, install the tarball: cyphertite-full-2.0.4.tar.gz modified October 30 2014 or I can install from package, which would you recommend?
[21:32] <Lucax> the deb?
[21:32] <daftykins> ary: however if you are the one that came by the other day with this issue... have you booted without nomodeset with the open source 'radeon' driver yet?
[21:33] <EriC^^> Lucax: you need to install a lot of dependencies to get it to work
[21:33] <daftykins> Lucax: 1) repo is best 2) deb's second 3) other methods last - but none are supported by us
[21:34] <EriC^^> Lucax: type sudo sh -c 'echo "deb  https://opensource.conformal.com/packages/ubuntu/12.04/\$(ARCH)/ ./" > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/conformal.list
[21:34] <alexa> hello guys! I could not edit successfully an existing keyboard layout :(
[21:34] <EriC^^> Lucax: then type sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install cyphertite
[21:34] <Lucax> I install all the dependencies allready, it is super easy, a simple sudo apt-get install LONGLISTOFDepEnDencies..
[21:34] <alexa> it's in /usr/share/X11/xkb/
[21:34] <EriC^^> Lucax: ok
[21:34] <EriC^^> then
[21:34] <EriC^^> type wget -O bla.deb https://opensource.conformal.com/packages/ubuntu/12.04/i386/cyphertite_2.0.4-1_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i bla.deb
[21:35] <alexa> I edited it, it looks now exactly as it looked like when I was using 12.04 version, except that it doesn't work now :(
[21:35] <ary> daftykins, the fglrx is installed and working. Compiz is working fine too. But some games are too low.
[21:35] <ary> daftykins, I booted with nomodeset and installed fglrx, and then i boot normaly
[21:35] <Lucax> hmm, still it demands even more dependencies but at least it names them, it is not too many
[21:36] <dario_> i have study math to the uni
[21:36] <alexa> anyone, please!
[21:36] <EriC^^> Lucax: ok, install them, then type sudo dpkg -i bla.deb to try again
[21:37] <daftykins> ary: i doubt that, as that device isn't supported. anyway, it's utterly rubbish and you should replace it. you have no driver options at all i'm afraid
[21:37] <ary> daftykins, how can i see what driver the system is using?
[21:38] <daftykins> ary: like i said last time, "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[21:38] <Lucax> to install these dependencies it is just sudo apt-get install dependencies?
[21:39] <MasterPiece> Where can I find Ubuntu's upstream tracker system ?
[21:39] <EriC^^> Lucax: yeah
[21:39] <Lucax> I get these errors on all the dependencies: Package libclog2 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[21:39] <Lucax> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[21:39] <Lucax> is only available from another source
[21:40] <ary> daftykins, Here it is. Doesn't before: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9372832/
[21:40] <Jordan_U> MasterPiece: What do you mean by "upstream tracker system"?
[21:40] <EriC^^> Lucax: wget -O libbla.deb https://opensource.conformal.com/packages/ubuntu/12.10/i386/libclog2_0.6.4-1_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i libbla.deb
[21:41] <daftykins> ary: "Doesn't before" ?
[21:41] <curiousx> ary: lsmod | grep -o radeon | lsmod | grep -o fglrx
[21:41] <daftykins> ary: it's using the open source driver 'radeon' because fglrx does not support it, as mentioned.
[21:41] <Chuck_Norris> ary: lsmod | grep -o radeon | lsmod | grep -o fglrx | tail -n 1 :p
[21:42] <daftykins> ary: you have no options other than to buy a better card to put in
[21:42] <timvisher-xubunt> anyone have experience with dropbox on ubuntu? it's spinning at 100% of one of my cores, when it's apparently doing nothing? although it has been full for a while
[21:42] <MasterPiece> Jordan_U, I mean "A system for tracking debian changes, update ubuntu's repositories and build the packages again which is updated to debian"
[21:42] <EriC^^> ary: lshw -C video | grep driver
[21:42] <Lucax> libass, libclog, libexclude3, libshrink3, libxmlsd3 also is there
[21:43] <EriC^^> libass
[21:43] <EriC^^> somehow i think that's not in the ubuntu repos
[21:44] <bekks> !info libass
[21:44] <EriC^^> Lucax: i'd just install the deb in the sources.list.d
[21:44] <EriC^^> bekks: please behave
[21:44] <ary> curiousx, return no value
[21:44] <ary> Chuck_Norris,  configuração: driver=radeon latency=0
[21:45] <MasterPiece> Jordan_U, I guess this implemented within launchpad, but I wanna know exactly WHERE of the launchpad if mine guess is true
[21:45] <ary> EriC^^,  configuração: driver=radeon latency=0
[21:45] <Chuck_Norris> ary: lo) that's the output that gave you the EriC^^ commands xD not mine, but... you are using free drivers, not privative, i mean not fglrx
[21:46] <daftykins> i have already stated fglrx does not support that device
[21:47] <bubbasaures> EriC^^, You're setting up a users that will be in a whole probably installing a unsupported release, and update could break it.
[21:47] <bubbasaures> any*
[21:47] <Chuck_Norris> daftykins: i read that he wanted to know what drivers is he using -.-
[21:47] <daftykins> yeah there was a lot more to it than that.
[21:47] <ary> Chuck_Norris, Ok. It is how daftykins sayd. Need a vcard that is compatible with fglrx. But why there is no driver for ubuntu for god's sake?
[21:47] <EriC^^> bubbasaures: i'm going to tell him to remove the ppa once he installs the package
[21:48] <EriC^^> so it doesn't break anything in the future
[21:48] <marioxcc1> Hello. Is there a forum software that uses database transactions to assure data integrity?.
[21:48] <daftykins> ary: because AMD abandoned all their older hardware.
[21:48] <bekks> ary: Because your card is too old.
[21:48] <bubbasaures> EriC^^, mmmm a install not to get updates, wonderful.
[21:48] <daftykins> ary: it is them, not Ubuntu (Canonical) that is at fault :)
[21:48] <EriC^^> bubbasaures: umm, he's already installing from source so it wont matter
[21:48] <EriC^^> bubbasaures: just trying to get him out of dependency hell
[21:48] <Lucax> well, I am so tired but if i leave this pursuit now I will forget everything by tomorw
[21:49] <ary> daftykins, Live at Brazil sucks. All is too old here....
[21:49] <dm7freek> Where do I specify persistent static routes/
[21:49] <ary> I have a 7850 here but i Think it is not working. But worth a try.
[21:49] <ary> thank you all
[21:50] <Lucax> how can I install a package depending on dependencies that doesn't exist
[21:50] <Lucax> ?
[21:50] <EriC^^> Lucax: from the sites repo
[21:50] <EriC^^> did you add that sudo sh -c command?
[21:51] <bubbasaures> EriC^^, Installing from source is a outlier in it running in ubuntu from the repos, is all I'm saying, personally I would have steered them away with understand in the risk. ;)
[21:51] <EriC^^> bubbasaures: apt-get is not going to downgrade any packages it finds in the repo, so it will only pull what's necessary for the package to install, there is no risk
[21:52] <EriC^^> bubbasaures: i just said use at your own risk earlier cause it is a bit unorthodox
[21:52] <Jordan_U> MasterPiece: Partial answer to your question: https://merges.ubuntu.com/
[21:52] <EriC^^> bubbasaures: he's basically doing the exact same thing by downloading each dependency from their website and running dpkg -i to install
[21:53] <bubbasaures> EriC^^, I disagree, lets leave it at that.
[21:53] <EriC^^> i can see it upgrading a package that is already there, and maybe breaking something else
[21:54] <nuke1989> anyone can help a bit with a cannon wireless printer? :D
[21:54] <EriC^^> Lucax: just install them one by one
[21:55] <Jordan_U> MasterPiece: Also: http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/udd-intro.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/Merging
[21:57] <EriC^^> bubbasaures: Lucax but that would have the same effect, and installing them would break whatever too
[21:57] <Lucax> ok, I don't want to break  anything
[21:57] <Lucax> so should I install each package one by one?
[21:57] <Lucax> is that it?
[21:58] <EriC^^> you could be anal about it
[21:58] <bekks> EriC^^: Please behave.
[21:58] <EriC^^> and try not to update any existing packages you had which are in the dep list
[21:58] <ubuntu35w> out of curiosity, does anyone know if there is a theme for ubuntu that is similar to the Xbox  360 "Blades" dashboard?
[21:59] <EriC^^> Lucax: run apt-cache policy <package> to check if it's installed and which version it is
[21:59] <donotpet> Hi, Can someone help me with a kickstart problem (14.4)? I'm trying to use the %package statement, and kickstart seems to be ignoring the %end statement.
[21:59]  * D3vil is away: Got to a point where my brain activity was minimal.
[21:59] <donotpet> "...Dec  4 21:55:22 in-target: E: Unable to locate package %end"
[22:00] <marioxcc> Hello. Is there a forum software that uses database transactions to assure data integrity?.
[22:01] <bekks> marioxcc: Yes, thats called a relational database management system, like postgres, mysql, etc.
[22:01] <marioxcc> bekks: yes, I know, but I'm asking about software that uses the transaction support that those database engines provide.
[22:02] <bekks> marioxcc: Every software that uses mysql, e.g.
[22:02] <MasterPiece> Jordan_U, Thanks :) You took me a great answer :)
[22:02] <Lucax> Ok, I think I have to get back to this some other day, I can't think anymore, thanks a lot for all the help, I will have to get back to it later
[22:02] <wyre_> Hi all! :P
[22:02] <dontpet> ?
[22:02] <Jordan_U> MasterPiece: You're welcome :)
[22:02] <jwi> hello!
[22:02] <DM__> Hello everyone I am having issue with my apache2 web server keeps crashing: I have three errors over and over again; AH00094 - AH00169 - AH00163
[22:02] <marioxcc> bekks: Not AFAIK. Some MySQL backends don't even offer data integrity against crashes.
[22:02] <wyre_> i have one doubt! :P
[22:03] <wyre_> i'd like install this DE in my Ubuntu!
[22:03] <wyre_> http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-5Fcc3pVRNto/URlNih9O16I/AAAAAAAANj0/HDPImzV8T9A/s1600/gnome-classic_1.png
[22:03] <ventanitas> Hola
[22:03] <wyre_> how could i!? :P
[22:03] <EriC^^> !info cyphertite trusty
[22:03] <Chuck_Norris> wyre_: sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[22:03] <bubbasaures> wyre_, Looks like the gnome fallback desktop
[22:03] <jwi> i'm attempting to upgrade my ubuntu server on AWS from 12.04 to 14.04, but after the upgrade process finishes and the server reboots, it can't boot saying "The disk drive for / is not ready yet or not present".  How do I fix this???????
[22:03] <Atlantic777> Hi! I've broken some package dependencies and I'm not sure how to solve this.
[22:03] <Atlantic777> The following packages have unmet dependencies: gcc-4.8-multilib : Depends: libc6-dev-i386 (>= 2.11) but it is not going to be installed libc6-dev-x32 : Depends: libc6-dev-i386 (= 2.19-0ubuntu6.3) but it is not going to be installed
[22:03] <bekks> marioxcc: Because those are two applications.
[22:04] <Atlantic777> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[22:04] <EriC^^> !find cyphertite
[22:04] <bekks> marioxcc: you cant use mysql features without using mysql.
[22:04] <jwi> i've check fstab and theres nothing out of the ordinary there
[22:04] <wyre_> bubbasaures, but... it's some called Gnome Classic (using gnome-shell)
[22:04] <xangua> !nounity | wyre_: you want fallback more
[22:04] <ventanitas> :#
[22:04] <ventanitas> :3
[22:04] <retroispresto> using unetbootin to create the 10.04 usb now
[22:04] <bubbasaures> wyre_, Than install the gnome-shell you will g=have the fallback as well
[22:05] <joshh20> Does Ubuntu use ASLR by default?
[22:05] <joshh20> https://twitter.com/hanno/status/540623675754827776
[22:05] <retroispresto> i'll tell everyone how the upgrade goes
[22:05] <bubbasaures> retroispresto, we don' want to know.
[22:05] <imastupidguest> I'm having a problem installing guest additions in a vbox guest of ubuntu 14.04. I get the error dialog : "unable to insert the virtual optical disk" I see that VBoxGuestAdditions.iso  does exist in /usr/share/virtualbox   and the perms for that file are currently : -rw-r-xr-x
[22:05] <imastupidguest> What do I do?
[22:05] <wyre_> bubbasaures, i have done 'apt-get install gnome-session-fallback' but only appears gnome flashback in gdm! :S
[22:05] <dontpet> does anyone know if/how I can get a ks.cfg to interpret an %end statement for a %packages declaration?
[22:05] <imastupidguest> The owner:group for that file is :    root:root
[22:05] <xangua> wyre_: gnome-panel as the bot says
[22:06] <marioxcc> Hello. Is there a forum software that uses database transactions to assure data integrity?.
[22:06] <retroispresto> wyre_:
[22:06] <trueno> hola
[22:06] <xangua> retroispresto: still trying to upgrade 8.04??
[22:06] <retroispresto> your meant to install gnome-session-flashback
[22:06] <bubbasaures> wyre_, I'm not sure what you mean.
[22:06] <retroispresto> gnome-session-fallback is a translational package
[22:06] <retroispresto> xangua: yup
[22:06] <retroispresto> I fell asleep last night so i couldn't do it x.x
[22:06] <joshh20> Am I allowed to chat in here?
[22:06] <wyre_> retroispresto, yes! :D it's the point! :D
[22:07] <joshh20> I cant tell if my messages are sending
[22:07] <wyre_> retroispresto, what is transitional package?
[22:07] <bubbasaures> joshh20, Chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:07] <trueno> TCP/IP
[22:07] <retroispresto> run apt-cache search gnome-session
[22:07] <joshh20> Ok thanks bubbasaures you answered my question
[22:07] <retroispresto> it will say it in ()'s
[22:08] <majnoon> what is the name for the package for whole unity desktop ?
[22:08] <Chuck_Norris> imastupidguest: try:  chown $USER:$USER /usr/share/virtualbox/VBoxGuestAdditions.iso
[22:08] <dontpet> kickstart? halp?
[22:08] <bubbasaures> joshh20, Thanks for asking. ;)
[22:08] <jwi> i'm attempting to upgrade my ubuntu server on AWS from 12.04 to 14.04, but after the upgrade process finishes and the server reboots, it can't boot saying "The disk drive for / is not ready yet or not present".  How do I fix this???????
[22:08] <EriC^^> majnoon: ubuntu-desktop
[22:08] <wyre_> retroispresto, but... gnome-session-fallback isn't at Trusty repos?
[22:08] <retroispresto> wyre_: that's my point, install gnome-session-flashback
[22:09] <Frank_Leach> Hi everyone...my latest dist update has caused problems with chroumium, anyone else experience anything?
[22:09] <xangua> majnoon: ubuntu-desktop
[22:09] <Frank_Leach> everytime I open YouTube, my screen goes black
[22:09] <Chuck_Norris> wyre_: the image you post was gnome-shell idk what version but the bottom panel i could have been a gnome-shell plugin
[22:09] <retroispresto> Frank_Leach: apart from being 3-5 years eol, not really! XD
[22:10] <Chuck_Norris> wyre_: but AFAIK now a day there is no such plugin
[22:10] <wyre_> retroispresto, but... whats mean transitional package?
[22:10] <wyre_> Chuck_Norris, AFAIK? xD
[22:10] <retroispresto> wyre_: i dun actually know xD sorry
[22:10] <wyre_> whar u mena? XD
[22:10] <Chuck_Norris> as far as i know -.-
[22:10] <Frank_Leach> well, I did dishromium and try to play a youtube video, it crashest upgrade yesterday, and when I open C
[22:11] <retroispresto> Chuck_Norris, can you break bedrock with your fists?
[22:11] <wyre_> anyone knows what is considered transitional package? XD
[22:11] <Frank_Leach> a load of me bollix
[22:11] <retroispresto> I'm a furry!
[22:11] <Chuck_Norris> wyre_: if you like the old gnome, try "mate"
[22:12] <retroispresto> ^ what Chuck_Norris said!
[22:12] <Frank_Leach> lovely..
[22:12] <Frank_Leach> get it inta ya cyntia
[22:12] <jwi> Greetings!  i'm attempting to upgrade my ubuntu server on AWS from 12.04 to 14.04, but after the upgrade process finishes and the server reboots, it can't boot saying "The disk drive for / is not ready yet or not present".  Has anyone encountered this or know how to fix this?
[22:12] <imastupidguest> Chuck_Norris: Ok, I did that and was success with sudo chown myRealUserName:myRealUserName   but still does not work when I try to mount the image through vbox. Here is a screenshot of what I'm looking at (maybe it makes more sense to you) : http://imgur.com/0ALgwZy
[22:13] <wyre_> Chuck_Norris, i like that gnome! xD
[22:13] <wyre_> (also ... i have it, and i'm running with Gnome 3.14 xD
[22:14] <MasterPiece> How merges.ubuntu.com aware's to merge some packages?
[22:14] <Frank_Leach> Any of you system admins?
[22:14] <wyre_> (but Debian... not ubuntu, the question is to a friend)
[22:14] <retroispresto> I'll miss some people at my school .-.
[22:14] <Frank_Leach> Thinking of changing careers
[22:14] <retroispresto> system admins?
[22:14] <imastupidguest> Chuck_Norris: Why is there a 'Force Unmount" button on that window (as if to say the thing is mounted)?
[22:14] <retroispresto> I'm a student o.o
[22:14] <wyre_> and gnome-session-fallback it's inside trusty repos?
[22:14] <Frank_Leach> student of what
[22:14] <MasterPiece> Jordan_U, Can you give me another great answer ? ( Question is above (: )
[22:14] <retroispresto> high school xD
[22:15] <wyre_> (although it be transicional package)
[22:15] <Frank_Leach> ah..
[22:15] <Chuck_Norris> imastupidguest: cick in "Details" but i think if we search for VER_PDM_MEDIA_LOCK we could find something -.-
[22:15] <retroispresto> I was introduced to linux at about 7-8 years old
[22:15] <retroispresto> my first distro was ubuntu o-o
[22:16] <imastupidguest> Chuck_Norris: Details say ...
[22:16] <fowlslegs> Can I install the ISO to usb w/ `dd if=ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=8M` after making a single FAT32 partition (/dev/sdXY)?
[22:16] <imastupidguest> Result Code:
[22:16] <imastupidguest> NS_ERROR_FAILURE (0x80004005)
[22:16] <imastupidguest> Component:
[22:16] <imastupidguest> Console
[22:16] <imastupidguest> Interface:
[22:16] <unopaste> imastupidguest you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[22:16] <Chuck_Norris> imastupidguest: http://blog.plicatibu.com/how-to-solve-cannot-install-guest-addtions-verr_pdm_media_locked/
[22:17] <Chuck_Norris> imastupidguest: there it says: "The solution is simple: unmount the CD/DVD driver"
[22:18] <imastupidguest> Chuck_Norris: Thank you sir
[22:19] <Chuck_Norris> np
[22:19] <fowlslegs> Eh that didn't work. Ubuntu is weird. Guess I'll just download Unetbootin.
[22:25] <imastupidguest> Chuck_Norris: Just pondering on something. Now if the problems with mounting guest additions is that it's already mounted (and mounting it was my goal) - then there's nothing to do, right? If it's mounted already it's mounted already - or am I missing something here?
[22:25] <imastupidguest> Why would 'you don't have a problem to begin with' be a problem for anyone?
[22:27] <Chuck_Norris> imastupidguest: idk, it was like your virtual cd/dvd drive was already in use or something like, so it doesnt wanted to mount any other thing -.-
[22:27] <Chuck_Norris> it didnt*
[22:28] <retroispresto> so far the upgrade to 10.04.4 is going well
[22:29] <xangua> retroispresto: are you planning to upgrade to 12.04 as well? 10.04 desktop is no longer supported
[22:29] <dontpet> So, PXE/Kickstart: does anyone know why the installer would ignore the %end after a %packages declaration in a kickstart config?
[22:30] <retroispresto> xangua: yes, after 10.04.4 is done. An upgrade straight to 12.04.5 would almost definately brick the system
[22:30] <dontpet> it's driving me mad
[22:30] <imastupidguest> Chuck_Norris: In my Ubuntu guest, it appears that guest additions is mounted. Is there some component of guest additions where it needs to be installed to the guest?
[22:30] <bekks> dontpet: Can you pastebin your entire config?
[22:30] <dontpet> bekks sure.
[22:30] <dontpet> thank you
[22:31]  * retroispresto pets dontpet :3
[22:31] <xangua> retroispresto: as far as I remember you are using a limited resource machine, so why didn't you go with Lubuntu as you were told severald times yesterday? newer Ubuntu releases need more resources
[22:32] <retroispresto> I have medicial conditions, i have patience to sit at a desk for 6 hours watching a progress bar move along
[22:32] <Chuck_Norris> imastupidguest: mmm... i don't remember very well but if it's mounted then check /media... and see what inside that iso, and if there is an installer or something
[22:33] <xangua> retroispresto: a fresh Lubuntu install would be faster that sitting 6 hours to uprade
[22:33] <Jordan_U> retroispresto: While you're watching the progress bar move along, download and burn (or load onto a USB drive) Lubuntu 14.04 so that if things die you have rescue media on hand.
[22:33] <dontpet> here's my ks.cfg
[22:33] <dontpet> http://pastebin.com/XEDL4ikW
[22:34] <retroispresto> i'm on an eee pc 4g surf
[22:34] <retroispresto> it has a 7" screen. it can handle graphics fine
[22:34] <imastupidguest> Ok. Sounds like a good idea. I think I see what's going on. My ubuntu install image was still configured to be what's mounted to /dev/sr0. I thought I had changed that setting; but, since the setting change was made while the guest was running, i tmay note have took.
[22:35] <retroispresto> I can even play battle for wesnoth without audio lag
[22:35] <patsourakos> Hello sorry for this link http://i.imgur.com/trgo9YF.jpg
[22:36] <EvilRoey> Hey all, I have BTRFS subvols mounted for /home, / and others.  How do I reinstall Kubuntu and leave /home as it is, while obliterating / ?
[22:36] <bekks> dontpet: did you try to remove the # ?
[22:36] <Chuck_Norris> imastupidguest: how did you install "GuestAdditions" from ubuntu repos?
[22:36] <dontpet> @bekks  which one?
[22:37] <bekks> dontpet: The one in front of the %end
[22:37] <dontpet> lines 20-21 are my current desperate attempt
[22:37]  * vifino pets dontpet
[22:37] <vifino> ;)
[22:37] <dontpet> @bekks lines 24-28 used to be uncommented
[22:38] <dontpet> (before lines 20-21 existed)
[22:38] <bekks> dontpet: maybe the whitespace after the @ breaks it?
[22:40] <dontpet> hmm... I'll try that if my single line hack fails. thanks for the suggestion!
[22:40] <Jordan_U> EvilRoey: There is an option for doing that in the Ubuntu installer (that doesn't require use of subvolumes or separate partitions at all), though 1: I haven't used the feature (or Ubuntu's installer) for years and 2: I have no idea if Ubuntu's installer properly handles existing btrfs subvolumes.
[22:41] <Jordan_U> EvilRoey: You should however habe backups of any important data, no matter what you're doing.
[22:41] <retroispresto> my eee pc 4g surf is my intellectual property
[22:42] <EvilRoey> Jordan_U:  well yes I have backups
[22:43] <EvilRoey> just wondering what the utility of BTRFS is if the installer cannot handle installating making sure not to nuke all the  subvols
[22:43] <EvilRoey> *installing.
[22:43] <EvilRoey> haha, installating.
[22:44] <azizLIGHT> how do i check what partition table a usb hdd has?
[22:44] <Jordan_U> azizLIGHT: sudo parted -l
[22:45] <Jordan_U> EvilRoey: I have no idea if it can or not. To check for the sanity of your proposal, what paths other than /home/ are you trying to preserve?
[22:45] <EvilRoey> just /home, actually
[22:45] <EvilRoey> oh, and /archive (which is where I put media)
[22:45] <EvilRoey> I have a few volumes that I hang off of /
[22:45] <dreamcat4> has anyone else been experiencing boot problems on the latest 14.10 kernel 3.XXX.25 ?
[22:46] <dreamcat4> or is it just me ?
[22:46] <EvilRoey> Jordan_U:  //home, /archive, /porn-for-the-greater-good, etc.
[22:46] <dm7freek> I have LDAP and just messed with my routing a bit. Now when I try to log in, I get a black screen followed by the same login screen. What's going on?
[22:46] <EvilRoey> Jordan_U:  and with BTRFS being this meta-container for volumes, I am concerned that if I remove it and re-make it in the partition table, it will wipe out those subvols that I did not want touched.
[22:47] <Jordan_U> EvilRoey: I expect Ubiquity's feature for installing over an existing system (overwriting only "system" directories) will work fine for you. No guarantees though :)
[22:47] <EvilRoey> Jordan_U:  thanks for ansewring
[22:47] <EvilRoey> heh :)
[22:47] <EvilRoey> Jordan_U:  I was hoping to do a clean installation
[22:47] <EvilRoey> Jordan_U:  in the worst case, I'll jsut copy the data back frombackup.
[22:47] <Jordan_U> EvilRoey: Try it out and tell me how it goes, I'm curious :)
[22:47] <EvilRoey> ;)
[22:48] <Jordan_U> EvilRoey: Note that i expect that the default will be to simply whipe the partition you're installing to, so please do read through the install screens carefully.
[22:48] <EvilRoey> aye
[22:48] <EvilRoey> ok, seems like we think alike on this :)
[22:48] <EvilRoey> Jordan_U:  btw.. so the context is that my current 14.10 system is failing,
[22:49] <EvilRoey> and I think a fresh installation would fix that.
[22:49] <dreamcat4> grrr. or does everyone here just use LTS these days ?
[22:50] <bekks> dreamcat4: Which kind of problems do you experience using 14.10?
[22:50] <bekks> Taking polls wont solve them ;)
[22:51] <dreamcat4> bekks: well the kernel moved from 3...24 --> 2....25 recently, and at that time it's not booting for me anymore
[22:51] <dreamcat4> but i need to check if its the new kernel, or some 3rd party software i've installed
[22:51] <bekks> dreamcat4: What exactly does it do then?
[22:51] <dreamcat4> i did a re-install, but same thing happened again
[22:52] <dreamcat4> boot hangs / blacnk screen
[22:52] <Jordan_U> dreamcat4: Have you tried booting in recovery mode/
[22:52] <Jordan_U> ?
[22:52] <dreamcat4> last thing on the log is 'makefile something runlevel S' it's all pretty strange
[22:53] <dreamcat4> Jordan_U: i've been able to use the recovery mode feature. but the failure cause is still a mystery to me
[22:53] <dreamcat4> it may be because i've innstalled some debian pkgs from 3rd party srcs, but the precise failure cause isn't very clear
[22:54] <Bashing-om> dreamcat4: Proprietary graphics driver ( not building ) ??
[22:54] <__raven> cfhowlett: read again: encrypted home is no server specific function
[22:55] <Jordan_U> dreamcat4: What happens if you select the recovery mode entry, then select the option to continue booting normally?
[22:55] <dreamcat4> it could be something to do with the graphics driver. i tried removing 2 such pkgs installed from stemos repos. but that didn't solve the boot issue
[22:56] <Chuck_Norris> dreamcat4: what is your graphic card¿
[22:56] <dreamcat4> Jordan_U: i've just done that no on .23 kernel after re installing over the same partition (unchecked format box in the installer)
[22:56] <dreamcat4> the card is an intel GMA HD 3000 / 945 or something like that
[22:56] <dreamcat4> IGP
[22:58] <dreamcat4> right not i've booted that way and am installing updates with software updater. i still don't understand what cruft was remaining for the problem to return since i re-installed from the live CD today
[22:58] <dreamcat4> that should have wiped out everything in /etc/ /usr and /var directories and grub too.
[22:59] <dontpet> @bekks single line hack failed. Trying the multiline with the whitespace removed per your suggestion now.
[22:59] <dreamcat4> time to reboot to finish installing the latest updates...
[22:59] <dm7freek> I am unable to log in via gui, only over ctrl-alt-F#    (using LDAP)   I have ldap auth log open. what's going on?
[23:00] <dreamcat4> ah-ha. it's booted properly this time
[23:01] <dreamcat4> now if i can just figure out which 3rd party software / repos NOT to re-install again (steamos most probably)
[23:02] <dontpet> @bekks same thing :(
[23:02] <dreamcat4> question: if i add a debian-based repository into my apt-srcs list (even if it's at the bottom of the list). will that cause debian pkgs to be pulled in be accident instead of ubuntu ones ?
[23:03] <dreamcat4> i suspect that was my problem here
[23:03] <dontpet>  E: Unable to locate package %end
[23:05] <maestrojed> I am trying to import a somewhat big sql file via CLI. I get an error I am not familiar with. The error looks to me to be a linux error more so than mysql. Can anyone help? -bash: xmalloc: ../.././builtins/evalfile.c:162: cannot allocate 783095624 bytes (1851392 bytes allocated)
[23:07] <__raven> du -h on / gives me 50 gb but df -h gives me 300 gb used space. whats wrong here?
[23:07] <Walex2> __raven: nothing
[23:08] <Walex2> __raven: depends on filesystem, or perhaps you need to 'fsck'
[23:08] <Walex2> __raven: also use '-x' with 'du'
[23:09] <__raven> Walex2: deleting files does not effect the free space at all
[23:09] <Jordan_U> maestrojed: For some reason it look like bash was trying to allocate 783 MiB of RAM in one go, and failed. What is the exact command you ran?
[23:09] <Walex2> __raven: In that case 'fsck' will be quite necessary
[23:10] <Jordan_U> __raven: What files are you deleting and how?
[23:10] <__raven> Jordan_U: some big video files using rm on cli
[23:11] <Jordan_U> __raven: Is it possible that those video files are still open in some application?
[23:11] <maestrojed> joshh20 a few. 1) On the MySQL CLI: "source filename.sql"; 2) On the linux CLI "mysql -u user -ppass dbname < filename.sql: 3) On the linux CLI "cat filename.sql | mysql -uuser -ppass dbname
[23:11] <maestrojed> Sorry joshh20 that was meant for Jordan_U
[23:11] <__raven> Jordan_U: no thats impossible. never opened and this is a headless/no x system
[23:11] <dm7freek> I have an nfs automount and ldap. I cannot log in w the gui. i can log in via cli, but my automount fails. can anyone help me?
[23:12] <Jordan_U> maestrojed: Triple check that you're running "source filename.sql" at the MySQL CLI ;)
[23:12] <maestrojed> Jordan_U All day long buddy :)
[23:12] <Jordan_U> maestrojed: I don't understand your last comment.
[23:12] <maestrojed> Jordan_U the last two commands I listed give a different error
[23:12] <maestrojed> Jordan_U mysql server gone away
[23:12] <maestrojed> Jordan_U just joking. I have double checked a bunch.
[23:14] <Jordan_U> maestrojed: The error message you posted looks a lot like what I would expect from running "source really_large_sql_file.sql" from *bash* instead of from an SQL prompt.
[23:14] <maestrojed> Jordan_U interesting. I will ponder that and Quadruple check
[23:15] <__raven> Jordan_U: how to force a fsck on boot? i have no option to control the boot menu
[23:15] <Jordan_U> !fsck | __raven
[23:16] <__raven> ok tnx
[23:16] <dontpet> !ks.cfg | donotpet
[23:16] <Jordan_U> __raven: You're welcome.
[23:16] <maestrojed> I am sure I am on the MySQL CLI. BUT I think I just had success. I put bash into noprofile mode before entering the mysql cli. I got a few server gone away messages but it looks like it reconnected and recovered.
[23:17] <dontpet> whoever manages the bot: !kickstart has a broken link.
[23:17] <dontpet> :(
[23:21] <RobBurkeOne> Hey, I have problems with flash in my firefox on 14.04. I reinstalled the flashplugin-installer but I still get messages everywhere that I have to install flash in order to get certain things working. What can I do?
[23:21] <Chuck_Norris> RobBurkeOne: use Chorme -.-
[23:23] <Jordan_U> !kickstart | dontpet :)
[23:23] <__raven> Jordan_U: ok that solved the problem (for now) and deletion again affects the free space
[23:23] <__raven> hopefully that will remain
[23:23] <RobBurkeOne> anything else apart from that? ;)
[23:23] <Chuck_Norris> RobBurkeOne: Firefox for linux use an old version, and some webpages require you to use last or near lastest version of adobe flash plugin, last version of Chome for linux uses latest
[23:23] <Jordan_U> __raven: You should do a S.M.A.R.T. test, and maybe a memory test also to rule out failing hardware as a root cause.
[23:24] <__raven> another strange behaviour: exchanged ssh keys but sometimes key auth fails and it asks for password. whats that?
[23:24] <__raven> Jordan_U: yes thats an option...
[23:24]  * Chuck_Norris got no flash plugin, just so webm videos .,.
[23:25] <bubbasaures> RobBurkeOne, You can use the pepperflash version chrome has is FF.
[23:25] <bubbasaures> in*
[23:25] <RobBurkeOne> Chuck_Norris: Unlikely in my case: I got a message saying I am expected to have at least flash 10.0.0. And I have 11.2.something installed. At least theoretically
[23:25] <Chuck_Norris> sed -i 's/so/watch/'
[23:30] <__raven> Jordan_U: smart says i have a lot of "old age" and "prefail" but no major errors and state is ok
[23:36] <acu> how can I see which version is in repository on Ubuntu Server 14.04.1 LTS ?
[23:36] <ten20> is there a point in installing both ubuntu-after-install and ubuntu-tweaks?
[23:38] <xangua> ten20: ubuntu-after-install ¿
[23:38] <Bashing-om> acu: -> apt-cache policy <package_name> .
[23:40] <Pinkamena_D> Has anyone tried to set up webex, or at least the java plug in, in firefox? I have had no such luck after trying many tutorials and the java test page just gives a white box
[23:44] <spencer_> do i need to authenticate myself?
[23:44] <spencer_> to chat
[23:45] <Bashing-om> !identify | spencer_
[23:47] <zerowaitstate> Pinkamena_D: you may need to get the Oracle JVM rather than Iced Tea
[23:49] <zerowaitstate> Pinkamena_D: there are a few proprietary parts to the Oracle JVM that WebEx may depend on
[23:51] <jinglescafe> Hello! I need some support
[23:53] <DrManhattan> I am using ubuntu 14.04 and I am unable to delete mails with squirrelmail. It greys the entries and markes them with a D but it doesn't delete them
[23:53] <DrManhattan> I beg humbly for help
[23:53] <Jordan_U> jinglescafe: Just ask your question, and if anyone can help they will :)