| bluesabre | Noskcaj: good question... I'll poke it a bit and see | 00:57 |
|---|---|---|
| Unit193 | bluesabre: Thanks for committing that. | 01:43 |
| brainwash | bug 1399048 | 10:17 |
| ubottu | bug 1399048 in gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu) "Update to 3.14" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1399048 | 10:17 |
| bluesabre | so it begins | 10:38 |
| bluesabre | :) | 10:39 |
| ObrienDave | another cycle? | 10:41 |
| ObrienDave | or another day? ;P | 10:41 |
| bluesabre | yes, that too | 10:58 |
| bluesabre | :D | 10:58 |
| bluesabre | talking about the gtk-3.14 update | 10:58 |
| brainwash | bluesabre: the xfce4 meta package recommends desktop-base, which makes sense in debian. should we change it to suggests in ubuntu? | 11:23 |
| brainwash | the package installs debian background, grub + plymouth theme and so on | 11:23 |
| brainwash | bug 1080865 | 11:23 |
| ubottu | bug 1080865 in xfce4 (Ubuntu) "Debian instead of Ubuntu grub splash" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1080865 | 11:23 |
| brainwash | or just keep things untouched and mark it as won't fix? | 11:24 |
| Unit193 | Changes sync => delta, I wouldn't. | 11:26 |
| brainwash | yes, that's the problem | 11:27 |
| brainwash | but this meta package does not get changes very often | 11:27 |
| brainwash | changed | 11:27 |
| Unit193 | (And desktop-base has/will have some pretty sweet artwork. :P ) | 11:30 |
| knome | or create a new package for xfce4 to depend on that introduces ubuntu/xfce art | 11:32 |
| Unit193 | https://wiki.debian.org/DebianArt/Themes/Lines if that one wins for example, I can see myself using it. :P | 11:33 |
| brainwash | it should use the default ubuntu grub/plymouth theme and Xfce desktop background | 11:33 |
| brainwash | if desktop-base is not present | 11:34 |
| brainwash | well, that's what I would expect | 11:34 |
| Unit193 | -base stuff is hardly seen. | 11:34 |
| Unit193 | Also, we plan on keeping xfce-4.12 updated? | 11:35 |
| knome | i'd hope we could land it soon | 11:35 |
| knome | there has been talks about releasing before the end of the year | 11:36 |
| brainwash | release without alpha, beta and rc phase? | 11:36 |
| knome | i don't know the details. | 11:45 |
| knome | but to be fair, there has been a lot of preparation time.. | 11:45 |
| brainwash | you are right, but with the recent amount of new commits there should be some time frame to test everything | 11:54 |
| brainwash | for potential regressions | 11:54 |
| knome | i'm not the one who decides on releasing, i've just heard that discussion | 12:00 |
| knome | so please follow the discussion and raise the question in #xfce-dev if it seems like things are progressing too fast | 12:01 |
| brainwash | ok then | 12:04 |
| Unit193 | And the mailing list a bit too. | 12:05 |
| knome | yep | 12:20 |
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| ET_Warrior | Hello. | 19:15 |
| knome | hello | 19:15 |
| ET_Warrior | So I have to make an account at the launchpad, on Ubuntu One to help contribute/ | 19:17 |
| ET_Warrior | ? | 19:17 |
| ET_Warrior | Not a problem... :~) | 19:18 |
| knome | it's not a hard requirement, but it helps with a lot of things | 19:19 |
| knome | and welcome | 19:19 |
| ET_Warrior | I love Linux so far, but I have had some troubles with it... but no bigey, as it's part of the learning process. | 19:19 |
| knome | have you got an idea what would you like to contribute with? | 19:19 |
| ET_Warrior | I actually just installed Xubuntu on Tuesday I believ.e | 19:19 |
| knome | s/with/to/ | 19:19 |
| ET_Warrior | I'd like to help with some bugs I'm having, and I could help translate to. | 19:19 |
| knome | if you have a spare machine (or are willing to do vm tests), you can help with testing the newest releases and application versions | 19:21 |
| knome | otherwise, simply filing the bugs and following up with information the developers as is good | 19:21 |
| knome | translations are handled here and there; are you familiar with this list: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Processes#Package_translations yet? | 19:21 |
| ET_Warrior | I do have a spare machine... but it's "legacy hardware". | 19:21 |
| ET_Warrior | Thanks. | 19:21 |
| knome | that's okay | 19:21 |
| ET_Warrior | Xubuntu should run alright on it though. | 19:22 |
| knome | either elfy, slickymaster or me can give you more information on testing (though i'm going to be off soon) | 19:22 |
| ET_Warrior | I wanted to get a 1 GB RAM stick from my family member that he'd never used, and put it into my old XP system with only 512MB of RAM. | 19:22 |
| knome | xubuntu running fine is a good start; what we test with our image and package testing is that NEW application versions and core stuff works with xubuntu | 19:22 |
| ET_Warrior | Alright... I apologize if I'm unfamiliarized with some terminology, like I said, I'm a bit of a Linux newbie. | 19:22 |
| knome | that's okay :) | 19:23 |
| knome | the image testing pretty much means you'll install xubuntu on the machine once per test | 19:23 |
| knome | so it's not suitable for a machine that's used daily | 19:23 |
| ET_Warrior | Yeah, I don't really use that machine at all... I was going to try to get Q4OS, on it, but I failed. | 19:24 |
| ET_Warrior | Xubuntu, I'm so happy that I was led to it. | 19:24 |
| knome | there's quite a bunch of good information at http://xubuntu.org/contribute/qa/#testing for testing | 19:24 |
| ET_Warrior | It seems it's exactly what I was looking for in a Linux. | 19:24 |
| knome | glad to hear that :) | 19:24 |
| ET_Warrior | I wanted a plain, and simple linux, that's modest, and yet is stable, and fast, and has a strong community. | 19:25 |
| ET_Warrior | But at the same time, I wanted a more "pretty" looking linux. | 19:25 |
| ET_Warrior | Xubuntu is it. | 19:25 |
| knome | great! | 19:25 |
| ET_Warrior | And I love the fact that Linux is a thriving community of people wanting to help one-another. | 19:25 |
| ET_Warrior | And everything for the most part is open-source. | 19:25 |
| ET_Warrior | How it should be! | 19:25 |
| ET_Warrior | :D | 19:26 |
| knome | i'm going to run off for some time now, but feel free to ask questions as you go; i'll answer when i'm back if you're still here, and/or others are able to assist you to get started as well | 19:26 |
| knome | thanks for the interest! | 19:26 |
| ET_Warrior | Okay, sure. | 19:26 |
| ET_Warrior | I understand. | 19:26 |
| ET_Warrior | So lightweight! I'm only using 18% memory. | 19:29 |
| Unit193 | Logan_: Any chance I can trick you into uploading a git snapshot into vivid? Current version is 100% useless as the API changed: Debian #770133. | 20:31 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 770133 in gcalcli "gcalcli 2.x is no longer compatible with google's api" [Grave,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/770133 | 20:31 |
| ochosi | evening everyone | 20:42 |
| * ochosi tried to follow while being away | 20:43 | |
| ochosi | but let me know if there are important news i might've missed | 20:43 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: Still not sure if it's of interest to you, but I built a package with the patch from Xfce: #11255. | 20:46 |
| ubottu | xfce bug 11255 in General "[Xfce4-datetime-plugin] close window and deactive button on focus-out event" [Normal,New] https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11255 | 20:46 |
| ochosi | oh nice | 20:47 |
| Unit193 | It's there, I don't care really if Xubuntu wants it or not, but I needed it. :P | 20:47 |
| ochosi | added to the buglist | 20:48 |
| ochosi | need to figure out who has push rights there | 20:48 |
| ochosi | thing is, we don't use it in xubuntu anymore | 20:48 |
| ochosi | but still, it seems like a good idea to implement that | 20:49 |
| Unit193 | We don't? | 20:49 |
| Unit193 | Huh. | 20:49 |
| ochosi | we use the panel-internal clock plugin, unless i'm mistaken | 20:49 |
| Unit193 | OK, I'm just confused now. :D | 20:56 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: Right, so xfce4-datetime-plugin wasn't even installed on this computer, was just the other one. Seems it was leftover from something... So, while the patch is very handy, 'Clock' is default and a replacement. | 21:00 |
| ochosi | yup | 21:00 |
| ochosi | and clock doesn't have that problem | 21:00 |
| Unit193 | No, so there's only minor differences, unless that other bug that I linked to gets fixed, then I'm back to datetime. :P | 21:01 |
| Unit193 | So is it still worth uploading the patched version? | 21:01 |
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| ochosi | sure | 21:05 |
| ochosi | but it'd also be nice getting it merged upstream | 21:06 |
| Unit193 | https://sigma.unit193.net/source/xfce4-datetime-plugin_0.6.2-2ubuntu2.dsc | 21:08 |
| etwarrior | ochosi: Hey, I see you're in this chat too! | 21:09 |
| ochosi | well yes | 21:11 |
| etwarrior | So you're a developer then? | 21:12 |
| ochosi | ypu | 21:13 |
| ochosi | yup | 21:13 |
| etwarrior | I would like to help with the Xubuntu project myself. | 21:13 |
| Unit193 | ochosi is the Xubuntu project lead. | 21:13 |
| etwarrior | Oh wow! Haha. | 21:14 |
| ochosi | yeah, read it in the backlog etwarrior | 21:14 |
| ochosi | new contributors are always more than welcome | 21:14 |
| etwarrior | Nice to meat you. | 21:14 |
| etwarrior | meet* | 21:14 |
| ochosi | i've just been away for a few days, so i'm still catching up on things | 21:14 |
| etwarrior | Well I can certainly try to help with the project... I personally like the Xfce, and even the LXDE environments, and the MATE one is okay too. | 21:15 |
| etwarrior | But I went with Xubuntu. | 21:15 |
| etwarrior | I have a few things written down here that I was having trouble with. | 21:15 |
| ochosi | you mean bugs or missing features? | 21:16 |
| etwarrior | Just some bugs I'm haivng. | 21:16 |
| etwarrior | having* | 21:16 |
| etwarrior | A lot of them seem to have been sorted out actually, haha... probably the updates that fixed them. | 21:16 |
| etwarrior | Sometimes if I return to my computer from sleep mode (since it's a laptop), I have to force restart because I get a black screen. | 21:17 |
| ochosi | yeah, there are issues with suspend | 21:17 |
| ochosi | are you on a macbook? | 21:18 |
| Unit193 | Is this the ll bug? | 21:18 |
| ochosi | no | 21:19 |
| ochosi | even without ll, i saw that black screen bug on a macbook | 21:19 |
| etwarrior | Yes. | 21:19 |
| etwarrior | I was on a macbook. | 21:19 |
| etwarrior | or am | 21:19 |
| etwarrior | I think that I sent a report in. | 21:19 |
| etwarrior | So you must've got it? | 21:19 |
| ochosi | probably, but i get so much bugmail these days, i don't have enough time to check them "all" | 21:20 |
| etwarrior | I would like to help with translating too... | 21:21 |
| etwarrior | Uhh, is there a way to use other characters on Linux; I'm sure there is.. | 21:22 |
| etwarrior | Je parle francais. | 21:22 |
| etwarrior | but the 'c' has to have the cedile on it. | 21:22 |
| ochosi | yeah, check the keyboard layout | 21:22 |
| etwarrior | I see.. | 21:23 |
| etwarrior | Je parle francais un peu. | 21:25 |
| etwarrior | So just a bit, but I think that I understand it good enough that I could help. | 21:25 |
| knome | etwarrior, did you check the link a pasted to you about translations? | 21:26 |
| etwarrior | Uhh... if I did, I lost it; but I don't know if I did click it or not.. | 21:27 |
| knome | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Processes#Package_translations | 21:28 |
| etwarrior | Thanks. | 21:28 |
| etwarrior | C'est lire-marked. ;¬) | 21:29 |
| etwarrior | It's book-marked... haha. | 21:29 |
| etwarrior | marked isn't the french, not sure what it would be. | 21:30 |
| knome | bookmark is the correct term | 21:30 |
| etwarrior | No, but lire = book, but I didn't know the French term for marked. | 21:31 |
| knome | right... maybe translating to french isn't your forte then :P | 21:32 |
| ochosi | etwarrior: errrm, "livre" = book "lire" = read | 21:32 |
| etwarrior | Oh, right... | 21:32 |
| etwarrior | Like I said, my French isn't 100%. | 21:33 |
| etwarrior | I understand how the language works a lot better than I did though. | 21:33 |
| etwarrior | The adjective comes after the word... so they don't say *dark* green, they say "vert fonce'" | 21:34 |
| etwarrior | with the e accent grave | 21:34 |
| etwarrior | So "green dark" | 21:34 |
| etwarrior | or green [that is] dark. | 21:34 |
| knome | for discussing french grammar and other curiosities, we have #xubuntu-offtopic | 21:35 |
| etwarrior | Okay, thanks. | 21:35 |
| etwarrior | This is a developer's channel... you're right; I apologize for going off-topic. | 21:36 |
| knome | that's fine. | 21:37 |
| slickymaster | evening guys | 22:33 |
| knome | hello slickymaster | 22:34 |
| slickymaster | hey knome | 22:36 |
| slickymaster | I saw we have a new potential contributor | 22:36 |
| slickymaster | that's good | 22:36 |
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