[00:09] sgclark: canonical servers says 550 5.1.1 : Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual alias table [00:09] btw [00:09] awesome [00:09] oh hmm [00:10] oops [00:11] thanks [00:13] scrambled scarlett [05:37] Riddell: is this your task? http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/edit/google/gci2014/5903652564762624 [05:37] it was assigned to albertvaka, so I reassigned to you [05:37] please ask an admin to change that if it is not correct [07:07] Riddell: ping [08:46] Good morning. [08:54] by the way, I had another plasma freeze today [08:54] :( [08:54] with those same xgeWireToEvent: Unknown extension 148, this should never happen errors [08:54] I was so hopeful that was over [09:28] valorie: did it fill up your hard disk? [09:30] valorie: mm yes it is thanks [09:30] (the code in task) [09:30] cool [09:31] not sure how it got assigned to albert [09:31] has not filled my hd as yet [09:31] valorie: because when you fill in the form it doesn't fill it in with your name but with alphabetical list and his name begins with a [09:31] probably has filled the console buffers though [09:32] melange is sooooo wonderful [09:32] valorie: well I'll try and do a SRU of it anyway, fancy reporting a bug on libxext (or checking if there already is one)? [09:32] full of happy surprises [09:32] libxext is what is doing that? [09:32] have not heard of that one [09:33] checking bko now [09:33] and oh, do you want that task published now, or later? [09:34] ah, it is open already [09:35] now is fine [09:35] and the breeze libreoffice icons task published too [09:36] weekend coming up, kids might be eager [09:36] we'll see [09:36] seems much more relaxed this time around [09:36] valorie: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=336592 [09:36] KDE bug 336592 in Panel "The warning _xgeWireToEvent: Unknown extension 148, this should never happen. is flooding the .xsession logfile." [Normal,Resolved: upstream] [09:36] valorie: I mean report on launchpad.net so I can SRU it [09:37] ah, ok [09:37] can I do ubuntu-bug libxext ? [09:37] trying.... [09:38] pfff, no [09:39] "There is no project named 'libxext' registered in Launchpad" [09:39] so "needs packaging" bug? [09:43] mm there is such a source [09:44] https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-packaging-next/+bug/1384512 - I will comment [09:44] Launchpad bug 1384512 in Projet OpenGL "Plasma 5 frequent screen freezes" [Undecided,New] [09:45] good morning [09:45] valorie: ah that's the bug you're getting? [09:46] well, I was [09:46] now much less frequent, for the past few days [09:46] so something has improved [09:46] but today another freeze, and still the same flooding error messages [09:48] yep, you're not alone :( [09:48] "Tm_T (Jussi Kekkonen) (tmt) renewed their own membership in the Kubuntu Members (kubuntu-members)" yay Tm_Tr still loves us [09:49] hi bukai [09:50] hi, Riddell [09:51] for the news feed do i need to include all the blogs or top 100 or something like that [09:51] Riddell: ^ [09:52] valorie: installing vivid made the freezes go away for me, but on the downside audio doesn't work [09:52] bukai: front page just the first 3 or so, on the news page preferably all of them [09:53] ooooo, I can't do without audio [09:53] Riddell: ok. [09:53] freezes are no biggie; I'll wait for vivid until people are singing more praises of it [09:56] yes I still love you [09:58] :) [10:05] hey, so the kde apps should be ready today ? === Blizzzek is now known as Blizzz [10:10] soee: some tidying up of konsole and kate and a go over with all of them to check bits and it should be ready [10:10] oof, sleep time [10:10] nini valorie [10:10] have a great day all [10:10] night valorie, sorry for the plasma hassles :( [10:11] Riddell: konsole is not being CI'd anymore [10:11] I am on a testing version! [10:11] I expected hiccups and bug reporting/commenting [10:17] Riddell: cool :) [10:17] why conversation does not highlight channels when im highlighted ? [10:17] *konversation === Blizzzek is now known as Blizzz [10:22] Riddell: how was the news feed implemented in the kubuntu.org? [10:25] bukai: it's stories on the drupal site [10:25] bukai: in a move to wordpress it'll be stories on the wordpress site [10:26] Riddell: So should I move it to wordpress first and then implement it? [10:27] bukai: yeah I think that would be the best way, no you have a design and know what elements you need, work out how to make a wordpress theme [10:27] s/no/now/ [10:27] Riddell meant: "bukai: yeah I think that would be the best way, now you have a design and know what elements you need, work out how to make a wordpress theme" [10:33] Riddell: ok, then I shall complete all the small changes that needs to be made and convert it. I have an idea for the footer too [10:34] ronnoc: we can put the +1 like and follow option of g+ fb and twitter [10:34] Riddell: we can put the +1 like and follow option of g+ fb and twitter [10:34] ronnoc: sorry [10:37] Riddell: In the kubuntu site the blogs i.e. the news feeds are not up to date . So are you sure using plugins will be a good options? [10:43] bukai_: how do you mean? [10:44] the news feed on http://www.kubuntu.org/ is up to date, telepathy story is the latest [10:44] there's no plugin [10:45] it was in November hence I got confused. :( [10:54] not much news at the start of a cycle "we're sorting everything out for later" isn't too exciting :) [12:10] what do you think, http://kubuntu.dev.soee.pl/ the sample image will be probably replaced by video that presents latets Kubuntu version [12:11] so main element that visitor see is video here as video content is more popular these days than some texts [12:11] * Riddell lunches, will look shortly [12:12] btw Thiago will help to translate content to Brasilian :) [12:13] just contact me yetserday so there will be EN, PL, BR and more if i find translators :) [12:15] Riddell: what do we do about the blog images? i need atleast 12 images for the top 12 posts what should i do about that? [12:26] bukai: hiho :) [12:27] soee: hi [12:29] bukai: what is your native language ? [12:30] soee: Bengali [12:32] bukai: would you be interested to translate content from a website that will be something similiar to Featur Tour on kubuntu.org to your lang ? [12:32] the translation process will start next year january or february [12:32] soee: yup, I will be happy to do it. [12:34] bukai: cool, may i ask you to send me your email to marcin.sagol@gmail.com ? === rdieter_work is now known as rdieter [12:35] soee: Ok , I will do it:) [12:37] soee: Did you get it? [12:41] bukai: yes tahnk you :) [12:43] Hey folks [12:43] morning [12:45] hiho, guys ill show you in a few minutes how content editing works on the website im working, uploading short video [12:57] take a look https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnB0ne2XfSo :) [12:58] haha love my pic [12:58] :D [12:58] don't understand what is being said :) [12:59] looks nice though [13:02] ah sorry, i was listening to radio and it was recorded ;) [13:03] lol [13:07] ok i edited it and picked some music instead :) [13:08] soee: that was really cool! :) [13:11] oh that was only sample, all text are edited same way, you can scale, crop imges from inside this panel [13:11] to do translation you must only switch from select box to different language confiugured and done - start translating existsing texts :) [13:26] bukai_: make it a google code in task :) [13:26] bukai_: give me some text to put in here like this task http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/edit/google/gci2014/5903652564762624 [13:28] Riddell: google says -> "You do not have sufficient privileges to edit a new task for KDE." [13:29] hang on [13:32] bukai_: tell me what to fill in http://people.ubuntu.com/~jr/tmp/gci.png [13:32] Ta Dah ! [13:32] Hi folks.. [13:32] hi Sick_Rimmit [13:32] Just reading the post about Telepathy, anyone using it ? anyone using it for Video Conferencing ? [13:32] Hi Riddell [13:33] I think lots of people use telepathy, I've never had much success with video conferencing [13:33] I think I tried it and the audio worked one way and the video the other way [13:33] Sick_Rimmit: how's your packaging life progressing? [13:33] Riddell: Was just going to mention the same [13:34] So I felt I was a bit lost with how C++ Programs and KDE stuff is all put together, so I've been having a bash at some QTCreator stuff [13:34] Also just been so busy evenings, :-( [13:35] But next week things are calmer, and I'm planning to have a crack at this [13:35] https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-packaging-next/+bug/1384512 [13:35] Launchpad bug 1384512 in Projet OpenGL "Plasma 5 frequent screen freezes" [Undecided,New] [13:35] Sick_Rimmit: worth working how how to checkout from git and compile something [13:35] Apparently that might help fix it [13:35] that'll give you more insight into what a package needs to do [13:36] Riddell: I OK, with Git we runn all our PHP Stuff with it here [13:36] I think I also struggle because I just don;t know about all those Debian special tools [13:37] e.g I'd never heard of dget and dput until you told me [13:37] no they're specific to .deb packaging so I wouldn't expect you to until you do some .deb packaging [13:37] I though Lintian was an IRC name for some uber l33t code wizard ;-) [13:37] :) [13:37] lol [13:38] But I have friends now to help me [13:38] Remember friends dont say RTFM to Friends ;-) [13:38] try compiling kde on windows + osx + linux... been quite a learning experience [13:38] sitter: do I need to add replaces/conflicts for konsole5 to konsole (kf5 package) ? [13:38] no [13:38] konsole5 depends on konsole [13:39] it is a diversion of konsole on utopic [13:39] Riddell: Is this fine->https://paste.kde.org/pvgtey0em [13:39] btw Riddell complaints that our kf5 packages in no way recommend or suggest that -data counterparts, they used to, why no more? [13:40] sgclark: answered by e-mail, they should do, if you can add those back and upload to vivid that would be great [13:40] ok will do thanks [13:40] * sgclark thinks her email is way broken [13:41] my last upgrade was a disaster :( [13:41] sgclark: did you get albert's twitter post? [13:41] oh? [13:42] bukai_: for wire.kubuntu posts or for kubuntu.org news posts? [13:42] twiiter hmm guess I should check that, I need another 24 hours in my day [13:42] it's not the normal way for bug reports [13:43] Riddell: we have to include wire.kubuntu posts right? [13:43] for the news feed [13:44] bukai_: having them somewhere would be good yes [13:44] but the stories under "latest articles" in http://test.kubuntu.co.uk/sok/ I understand to be news stories from kubuntu.org [13:45] For the twelve images on front page are those just images or need posts tied to them? [13:46] I would expect the ones under "latest articles" to be tied to posts which are news stories for kubuntu.org [13:46] Riddell: I am very confused about the blog part! I thought the latest stories from wire.kubuntu would be displayed there! [13:47] well it can be both [13:47] bukai_: where would you expect the news stories to be? [13:48] bukai_: if the stories from wire.kubuntu are on the images under "latest articles" how would the images get in the theme? [13:49] Riddell: The images can change in accordance with the latest blogs [13:50] bukai_: but how would it do that automatically? [13:50] needs to know how to find the image in the rss feed [13:51] it wont be something static, and for that either we need to store it in some database and fetch it or if there is an xml tag for image with the link for that image . the latter would be more helpful [13:53] Riddell: I do not know how we can modify the rss feed or rather generate rss feed with an image tag for every blog [13:53] bukai_: so that needs worked out somehow [13:54] bukai_: but that's why I was expecting the "latest articles" to be just articles from kubuntu.org/news [13:55] which is easier to work out what image to show with that [13:57] Riddell: ok, then every article or at least the latest could be assigned a image [13:58] yep [14:01] bukai_: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2014/5792060120498176 [14:01] if you can see it [14:01] Riddell: google says ->"This page is inactive at this time." [14:01] valorie: can you review and approve that task? ↑ [14:02] bukai_: http://people.ubuntu.com/~jr/tmp/gci1.png [14:02] Riddell: thanks :) [14:03] Riddell: I have one more question, how is news added to kubuntu.org? [14:06] bukai_: I log into drupal, click create content -> news, type some news and voila [14:08] Ok, so all the data is on the page itself ? I have to just put it as it is on the page and then after converting to wordpress new content could be added ? [14:09] Riddell: ^^ [14:09] yep [14:12] Riddell: :( I spent the whole day trying to parse the rss feed as I thought it needed to be put in the news page along with the kubuntu.org news!! So now we will keep news at it's place and I can create a cool widget for wire.kubuntu instead [14:13] * Riddell posts http://wire.kubuntu.org/?p=203 [14:14] "Kubuntu Part of KDE’s Google Code-in " [14:14] a cool widget sounds good [14:14] sorry if that feels like you wasted time [14:15] Riddell: hmm ok so it looks like only a few missing -data connection, but I am noticing that some Depend on -data and other Recommend, what is the correct relation? [14:16] sgclark: depend generally [14:16] sgclark: got an example? [14:16] most libraries with data won't be happy without the data files around [14:18] right kcoreaddons is unhappy, sec trying to find the one that was recommend, my kate will only let me have one file at a time open, I thought I uninstalled that bugger [14:19] sounds like you have kwrite not kate [14:19] grep is your friend no? [14:19] nah kwrite works [14:19] kate breaks dolphin for me [14:20] it's probably fishing for tuna [14:20] ahh grep yes handy tool. So yeah only one Recommend. Will fix [14:21] kf5completion === Blizzzek is now known as Blizzz [14:23] someone claimed the google code-in task to update grantlee but hasn't appeared here [14:26] ping me when apps are ready to test in vivid [14:44] Riddle: hi [14:45] Riddell: hi [14:45] Sergobot! [14:46] Sergobot: you want to be an elite kubuntu ninja? [14:49] Riddell: yes. But I also want to update Grantlee package in Kubuntu Vivid [14:50] GCI task https://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2014/5903652564762624 [14:50] Sergobot: creating the Grantlee package will make you an elite kubuntu ninja :) [14:50] Sergobot: do you know how to compile stuff on a command line? [14:51] yes [14:51] Sergobot: know anything about making or compiling a .deb package? [14:54] Riddell: yes I know about it but I don't know where should I upload it [14:55] deb package of cource [14:55] Sergobot: if you already know how to do it all, great, you can either upload to a launchpad PPA or attach to bug 1372518 [14:55] bug 1372518 in grantlee (Ubuntu) "Please update grantlee to 0.5.1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1372518 [14:55] oh [14:57] Sergobot: if you already know how to do it all, great, you can either upload to a launchpad PPA or attach to bug 1372518 [14:57] bug 1372518 in grantlee (Ubuntu) "Please update grantlee to 0.5.1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1372518 [14:57] Riddell: Ok [15:02] In bug report Grantlee version is 0.5.1 but in Grantlee's CHANELOG file the latest version is 5.0.0. Which version should I compile? [15:03] Sergobot: I think there's two grantlee's now [15:03] one is qt4 and one is qt5 [15:03] Sergobot: so start with 0.5.1 which is qt4 [15:04] and will be easy to update [15:04] and for bonus points, do 5.0.0 which will need some changes for qt5 build [15:06] Riddel: Ok. I will make .deb files for qt4 and qt5 versions [15:06] Riddell: Ok. I will make .deb files for qt4 and qt5 versions [15:06] great [15:07] for qt5 you'll need to rename the source to grantlee5 [15:10] Okay. I will do it. [15:11] Sergobot: have you compiled .deb packages before? [15:12] No :( [15:13] But I found an instruction how to do it : ) [15:13] Sergobot: ah then yes you need to learn :) [15:13] Sergobot: there's several different guides, not all valid, which are you looking at? [15:14] This http://chris.olstrom.com/howto/build-deb-packages-from-source/ [15:15] Sergobot: hmm no that's one which is not valid [15:15] Oops [15:15] Can you give me valid instruction? [15:15] sgclark: Sick_Rimmit: got any pointers to packaging guides? [15:16] Sergobot: or I can just give you a tutorial [15:16] they were all terrible :( [15:16] yeah that was best [15:16] Riddell: Is the ubuntu packaging guide still valid? Currently going through it. [15:16] Riddell: Yes don't use em they're all rubbish [15:16] rbetzen: it includes a lot of stuff about UDD branches which nobody uses [15:16] and if he/she needs further help I can or others can answer questions [15:17] Riddell: give me it please [15:17] We should write a new one for Kubuntu, I think [15:17] Sergobot: do you have a launchpad account with an ssh key? [15:17] Ok. I figured the bzr stuff wasn't being used by kubuntu atm. [15:17] yeah, been on my to-do for awhile, but not enough hours in the day [15:17] But more importantly, we need to think about how to deprecate the old ones [15:18] sgclark: I'd like to help with that [15:18] rbetzen: right, it's just debian/ in git (moving away from bzr) [15:18] Sick_Rimmit: great! just need to find those hours lol [15:18] maybe you could send me a bullet list of headings, giving the overall steps involved. I can flesh it out [15:18] Like [15:18] Get Sources [15:18] do dch [15:19] pbuild [15:19] yada yada [15:19] I say this because having read all sorts of stuff I feel throughly confused by it all [15:19] Sick_Rimmit: yeah, once I get qt5 compiling on linux,windows,osx I will have a few free moments and will come up with a list [15:20] sgclark: If you get me started I can iterate and check back with you [15:20] ok [15:20] sgclark: drop me a line at rick dot timmis at abazander dot com [15:20] ;-) [15:21] Riddell: no, I heven't it [15:22] Sergobot: make one and give me the url https://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/CreatingAnSSHKeyPair [15:23] Sick_Rimmit: Sent! [15:23] sgclark: Bless you, you're gr8 :-) [15:24] Riddell: ok so yeah, Rick and I will start working together on a new packaging guide, where should this be? Userbase? hmm probably techbase, is there a techbase section for us? [15:25] start with it on https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu would be easiest [15:25] Riddell: and it will be Kubuntu specific [15:25] community? [15:25] hmm [15:25] just to keep the kubuntu stuff together [15:25] ahh ok yeah that fits [15:25] maybe I'm wrong [15:25] nah looks right [15:27] Riddell: oh wait possibly not, looks like there are notes on all the tech stuff and the pages no loger exist [15:37] Riddell: might just need cleanup. valorie: thoughts on where Kubuntu techy wiki should go or stay at community? This particular guide is to lure in community so in a sense fits. [15:46] Riddell: I have created it. What should I also do? [15:47] Sergobot: what URL? [15:48] Riddell: Not URL. An SSH key [15:48] Sergobot: is it on launchpad? [15:48] yes [15:48] Sergobot: so what's your launchpad page? [15:48] https://launchpad.net/~sergobot256 [15:49] Sergobot: ssh ubuntu@ec2-54-92-152-218.compute-1.amazonaws.com [15:49] Sergobot: and run buobu [15:49] Sergobot: no run byobu [15:49] and type hello [15:51] Riddell: What is buobu? [15:51] Sergobot: byoby [15:51] Sergobot: it's a program to share screens [15:52] byobu [15:52] run it on the server you are ssh into [15:52] ssh ubuntu@ec2-54-92-152-218.compute-1.amazonaws.com [15:55] Riddell: Which server? [15:55] Sergobot: ssh ubuntu@ec2-54-92-152-218.compute-1.amazonaws.com [15:57] Riddell: I can't understand [15:58] Sergobot: run the command ssh ubuntu@ec2-54-92-152-218.compute-1.amazonaws.com [15:58] that will log you into a server [15:58] then run the command byobu [15:58] that will get us a shared screen [16:00] When I run ssh it isuues that permission denied [16:01] sergey@debian:~$ ssh ubuntu@ec2-54-92-152-218.compute-1.amazonaws.com [16:01] Permission denied (publickey). [16:02] Sergobot: hmm, I have allowed the ssh key you put on launchpad, do you have that same key on your computer? [16:03] yes, of cource === fenris- is now known as ejat [16:05] hello! [16:06] Sergobot: ok you're in [16:06] Sergobot: this is a shared ec2 cloud server from amazon, we can work on it and watch each other's work [16:06] Sergobot: shall I give you a tutorial in compiling the existing package? [16:06] Yes [16:07] Sergobot: so we need to get the current packaging and compile it [16:07] then I'll leave you to update it to the new tar from grantlee [16:08] Sergobot: to get the current package run apt-get source grantlee [16:10] I need run it in my PC or in the server? [16:10] Sergobot: on the server [16:12] Sergobot: great, so you can see you have the sources for version 0.4.0 [16:12] Sergobot: a debian package source is made up of the .orig.tar.gz which is the upstream source, a debian.tar which is the packaging and a .dsc meta-data file [16:12] Sergobot: have a look in debian/ for the packaging [16:13] Sergobot: go ahead and install what you need [16:13] this is a cloud server, if we mess up the machine we just shut it down and it's gone [16:15] Sergobot: run debuild [16:15] Sergobot: install those unmet build-deps [16:16] Sergobot: nope, the package names it's asking for are libqt4-dev and xvfb [16:16] okay [16:18] Sergobot: up key to get back last command is super useful :) [16:18] it's like cd - you'll use it all the time once you know it [16:18] Sergobot: ok run debuild to compile it [16:20] Sergobot: great, so debuild will run the packages rules in debian/rules which tell it to run run cmake; make; make install [16:20] but will also make it into .deb packages [16:20] Sergobot: oh also this is dual cpu so you can speed it up by running debuild -j2 [16:21] Sergobot: press control-C to kill current then debuild -nc -j2 [16:21] -nc is no clear so it'll start off where you killed it rather than start all over again [16:22] ah you forgot the -nc so it'll start again, but it'll be twice as fast so it's fine :) === rdieter_work is now known as rdieter [16:25] Sergobot: it compiled! now it's making the package [16:25] Sergobot: woo, all done! [16:25] Sergobot: so look in .. you should see the .deb package [16:25] packages [16:26] Sergobot: you can install them with sudo dpkg --install *deb [16:27] Sergobot: you also need to learn about tab completion [16:27] Sergobot: don't type out a filename, just the first letter or two then to complete [16:28] Sergobot: great it installed [16:28] Sergobot: inside grantlee-0.4.0 run debuild -S to make the source package [16:28] What I should do next? [16:28] Sergobot: inside grantlee-0.4.0 run debuild -S to make the source package [16:29] yay you used tab completion :) [16:29] It was very easy [16:29] Sergobot: so the packaging is in debian/ and that gives all the instructions needed to make the .debs [16:30] Sergobot: take a look at all the files in debian/ and let me know what you don't understand [16:31] For what is needed compat file? [16:31] Sergobot: when you run debuild that runs a load of debhelper scripts such as dh_install which do various parts of the packaging [16:32] Sergobot: those debhelper scripts change their behaviour slightly with each new version, compat just says which version behaviour we are expecting [16:32] so they are backwards compatible [16:32] version 9 is the newest version and what packages should be using [16:32] Sergobot: use less to look inside each file [16:34] uploading KDE Applicatiosn 14.11.97! [16:35] I don't understand. These files are empty [16:35] Sergobot: no it's not, you're just in the wrong directory :) [16:36] Riddell: for what is needed 'cat'? [16:36] Sergobot: I just used cat to output the file [16:37] cat is a very simple command which takes input and spits out output [16:37] if you give it a file it'll read out the file [16:37] if you give it multiple files it'll concatenate them together, which is where it gets its name from [16:38] concatenate is a silly work you only ever find in programming to mean "join" [16:39] Sergobot: good, compat version 9 is the latest version of debhelper [16:42] Riddell: How to rename files and dirs? [16:43] Sergobot: what are you doing? [16:44] I want to try to install the latest version of grantlee [16:45] Sergobot: git will give you the development version but as packagers we usually work with the released versions [16:45] Sergobot: which you can download from here http://downloads.grantlee.org/ [16:45] Sergobot: as I say there are two released versions, 0.5.1 is the qt4 version so start with that [16:46]