[01:52] <drdoom> I have a problem where fonts for things like pidgin, firefox and others have their fonts too small.  this isn't fixed by setting a new font for firefox and using system settings the fonts just increase things like title bars and such.  forcing things to 96 dpi doesn't seem to help either.  laptop, 1920x1080
[02:49] <drdoom> I have a problem where fonts for things like pidgin, firefox and others have their fonts too small.  this isn't fixed by setting a new font for firefox and using system settings the fonts just increase things like title bars and such.  forcing things to 96 dpi doesn't seem to help either.  laptop, 1920x1080
[03:35] <Roey> Hello, hello
[03:35] <Roey> is there anybody in there?
[03:36] <Roey> Just post if you can see me. Is there anyone at home?
[05:40] <valorie> hmmm, not much going on here tonight
[06:21] <toothe> I am having dragon player crash at startup
[06:21] <toothe> it doesn't end up starting up.
[06:28] <valorie> toothe: you might try starting it from the commandline, and see if there is some useful output
[06:29] <valorie> or, does dr konqui pop up?
[06:31] <toothe> i fixed it...
[06:31] <toothe> well, rather I just rebooted
[06:31] <toothe> (the universal solution)
[06:32] <toothe> i noticed that several programs startup when I boot up -firefox, pidgin, thunderbird
[06:32] <toothe> I didn't set them to do that anywhere and am not able to find where they are specified to startup in their settings
[06:32] <toothe> is that a KDE thing?
[06:33] <valorie> you can set that stuff up in systemsettings
[06:33] <valorie> easiest: alt+f2 and type start
[06:34] <valorie> you'll be taken to the correct bit of systemsettings
[06:35] <toothe> correct bit of system settings?
[06:36] <valorie> there are many parts; you should be able to choose from krunner
[06:36] <valorie> "autostart" is what that section is called
[06:37] <toothe> yeah, its not there...
[06:37] <toothe> pidgin, thunderbird, firefox...they're not there.
[06:39] <valorie> ok, you might have set up kubuntu to save your session on shutdown
[06:39] <toothe> perhaps...
[06:39] <valorie> and if you don't shut down applications before you log out or shut down
[06:39] <toothe> im relatively new to KDE
[06:39] <valorie> they will start up automatically
[06:40] <valorie> if you usually do that, which is not a good idea, by the way, you can ask instead for an empty session
[06:41] <toothe> i just want a clean desktop everytime I boot up.
[06:41] <valorie> that is session management
[06:41] <valorie> again, in systemsettings
[06:42] <toothe> thanks...
[07:55] <dmatt> hi, anybody versed in akonadi here?
[07:57] <dmatt> it's having 230GB of fun with my harddisk in /local/share/akonadi/file_db_data
[07:57] <valorie> dmatt: you'll be happy to know that akonadi is getting some major work
[07:58] <dmatt> valorie: I read the planet, I know
[07:58] <valorie> not sure what to say besides that
[07:58] <dmatt> however, i need to tame the beast now :)
[07:59] <dmatt> I suspect it is connected with kmail behaving stranegely
[07:59] <valorie> you probably can get the help you need in #kontact
[08:00] <dmatt> valorie: thanks, I try there
[08:00] <valorie> best of luck!
[08:46] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:45] <soee> good morning
[09:45] <lordievader> Hey soee, how are you?
[09:46] <soee> ah cool :) my brother with his 4 weeks old son visited me :D
[09:47] <lordievader> soee: Hehe, nice ;)
[09:48] <soee> indeed :D
[09:48] <valorie> quite fun to hold such a tiny one
[09:49] <soee> valorie: risky one :)
[09:49] <soee> but its a cool baby :)
[09:49] <valorie> risky?
[09:50] <valorie> we humans have successfully raised little ones for quite a few hundreds of thousands of years
[09:51] <soee> yeah but its always some stress to hold it :)
[09:51] <valorie> just means you need some practice
[09:51] <valorie> snuggle it, and he'll snuggle back usually
[09:51] <smoof_> can anyone here easily clone an entire linux into an ISO so that all the installed software, and of course configvurations, are loaded when i re"install" the clone?
[09:52] <smoof_> No idea on cloning. my tuxboot and clonezilla attempt only rendered a useless grub file, which I couldn't figure out how to access!
[09:52] <valorie> smoof_: there is clonezilla, although I've not tried it
[09:52] <valorie> ah
[09:52] <valorie> I've heard some praise it
[09:52] <smoof_> yeah I tried. Maybe I should try again. Coz if I screw up my linux install i have to reinstall the entire lamp stack and configure my drupal settings
[09:52] <smoof_> a F*ing nightmare, a whole day or two to do all of that. So I do need a clone
[09:53] <lordievader> dd it into an iso?
[09:53] <smoof_> that can just exactly haha, "cut and paste", my entire setup to a new HD :) Perhaps I should experiment and try again... I will get my laptop back at some stage, I'll practice on it..."
[09:53] <smoof_> naw it didn't make an iso.
[09:53] <smoof_> that was strange coz that was what I asked tuxboot to do...
[09:54] <smoof_> maybe the grub shouldn't run and then made an iso. but anyways, dang. Was hoping you could suggest an easier, alternate method, but yeah, I've heard clonezilla is King!
[09:54] <valorie> oops, I thought we were in k-offtopic
[09:54] <valorie> sorry, folks
[10:05] <Avihay> EvilRoey: hi
[12:27] <Guest36544> How do i set my secondary screen to 60hz, only 72hz is available through systemsettings.
[12:43] <BluesKaj_> Hey folks
[12:59] <AceKing> I am having a problem setting my "Search" to not search bookmarks. 14.04 64 bit. I could have swore I changed it in Search Settings, but when I bring it up, it only gives me options of what drives to not search.
[13:13] <David1965> Good and thanks
[13:15] <David1965> not running Kubuntu just LInux Mint MATE 17 (Qiana) 64-bit which is derived from UBUNTU 14.XX
[13:15] <lordievader> !mint
[13:15] <David1965> alright I am leaving
[13:16] <lordievader> David1965: You can stick around ;) But don't expect a lot of support.
[13:31] <Draggin> Hi, good afternoon :) Can anyone tell me if there is still an "alternate installer" available for Kubuntu? From Googling around, I get the impression that there is not...
[13:33] <lordievader> Draggin: No longer, but there is the mini iso and the server iso.
[13:33] <Draggin> Because I have quite the mission ahead of me... Going to install Kubuntu 14.10 on quite an old computer. It's BIOS based, not UEFI, but I'll be using an Advanced Format WD drive with GPT, so there's quite a bit of setup required before I even install. My big problem, however, is the fact that the old AGP graphics card in the machine doesn't run the installer very well. It's practically impossible to see anything...
[13:35] <Draggin> lordievader - thanks. Any advice about my graphical issue though? I've done an installation with the mangled graphics before and the machine runs perfectly fine afterwards (and after adding the nVidia legacy PPA). Since there are so many new variables on this particular machine though, I don't want to risk messing things up with the mangled display of the installer...
[13:36] <Draggin> lordievader - is the mini.iso just a minimal installer that would require Internet connectivity to download the rest of the packages?
[13:37] <lordievader> Draggin: Perhaps the nomodeset kernel parameter works?
[13:37] <BluesKaj_> Draggin, what about the onboard graphics as a temporary measure then restore the AGP card after installation
[13:37] <lordievader> Draggin: Yes, an internet connection is required
[13:37] <Draggin> BluesKaj_ - the machine in question has no onboard graphics... o_O
[13:38] <BluesKaj_> aokaaay
[13:39] <Draggin> lordievader - Aha! Let me go try that quickly and see what that does for me...
[13:41] <BluesKaj_> Draggin, well the mini iso is basically a text install method, no fancy graphicsneeded
[13:47] <Draggin> lordievader - Alas... Even with nomodeset it still looks exactly the same...
[13:47] <Draggin> BluesKaj_ - that would be perfect, except for the masses of additional stuff I'd have to download. I'm on an extremely expensive metered connection... :(
[13:47] <lordievader> Draggin: Then try either the mini iso or the server iso.
[13:52] <BluesKaj_> Draggin, this might interest you, http://lxle.net/
[13:52] <BluesKaj_> it's not kubuntu, but it might fit your needs
[13:54] <yossarianuk> Draggin: are you installing on am amiga
[13:54] <Draggin> BluesKaj_ - Thanks :) That looks pretty awesome. I guess I'm just stuck in a bit of a groove though... I know Kubuntu runs perfectly fine on the machine I want to put it on. In fact, I'm running Kubuntu on the machine I'm on right now, and it's even older with worse hardware.
[13:54] <Draggin> yossarianuk - Haha! Not quite that bad :P Pentium 4 2.4GHz.
[13:54] <yossarianuk> you mentioned AGA...
[13:54] <yossarianuk> no you didn't sorry
[13:54] <yossarianuk> whoops
[13:55] <Draggin> BluesKaj_ - And I've tried various flavours of Ubuntu thus far and I definitely like Kubuntu the best
[13:55] <Draggin> yossarianuk - I'm pretty sure it'd be an interesting experience installing on Amiga though... :)
[13:56] <BluesKaj_> Draggin, understandable, I feel the same way :)
[13:57] <Draggin> BluesKaj_ - Wouldn't LXLE be more or less the same thing as Lubuntu though?
[13:57] <yossarianuk> Draggin:  its possible to install linux on newer ones powerpc versions...
[13:57] <Draggin> That also runs LDE, if I'm not mistaken
[13:58] <BluesKaj_> ok , I reallyt didn't look too deeply
[13:58] <Draggin> yossarianuk - Wow... I've been messing around with Linux for a couple of years now, but I definitely still consider myself a noob, but I'm constantly amazed by how powerful and versatile it is. I still remember how excited I was when I heard about YellowDog, which allowed you to install Linux on a PS3 :) (and subsequently found a very humourous article called "How to install Linux on a Dead Badger" :P )
[14:01] <lordievader> Draggin: Yes, Lubuntu runs LXDE.
[14:01] <Draggin> BluesKaj_ - No problem :) Seems I'm just dead set on doing things the hard way...
[14:08] <Draggin> Oops... Sorry about that...
[14:09] <Draggin> Power outage. The perks of living in rural South Africa... :P
[14:10] <BluesKaj_> Draggin, we get them too, a power outage did in my outboard drive
[14:10] <BluesKaj_> here in Canada
[14:12] <Draggin> We get them at scheduled intervals these days though. The power company can't supply enough power to the entire country, so we kind of have timeshare...
[14:13] <Draggin> Although I'm not sure if that's what's happening right now.
[14:13] <Draggin> BluesKaj_ - just read up a bit more about LXLE and Lubuntu. Seems LXLE is sort of an enhancement on Lubuntu. Like Lubunte Deluxe :)
[14:14] <BluesKaj_> yeah, looks good tho
[14:15] <Draggin> Yup. I have some even *older* machines lying around too. I might try it out on them
[14:16] <EvilRoey> hello all
[14:16] <EvilRoey> BluesKaj_:  hi!!!
[14:16] <EvilRoey> and lordievader, hi too!!
[14:17] <EvilRoey> Had a question from yesterday: Hey all, I have BTRFS subvols mounted for /home, / and others.  How do I reinstall Kubuntu and leave /home as it is, while obliterating / ?
[14:17] <lordievader> Hey EvilRoey, how are you?
[14:17] <BluesKaj_> apparently it's meant to rescue those who have machines that no longer have windows xp support
[14:17] <lordievader> EvilRoey: Use the manual partition option within the installer.
[14:19] <BluesKaj_> Hi EvilRoey
[14:20] <BluesKaj_> why btrfs ?
[14:21] <Draggin> BluesKaj_ - I saw that :)
[14:23] <EvilRoey> BluesKaj_:  because it's the fyooture™
[14:23] <EvilRoey> BluesKaj_:  because I wanted to be able to backup with send/receive instead of dirvish.
[14:23] <EvilRoey> BluesKaj_:  and a few other reasons
[14:24] <EvilRoey> BluesKaj_:  ok, so with the manual partition option, can I instruct it to reinstall to / (and to wipe /) but leave /home?
[14:24] <EvilRoey> because they're all subvolumes on that one BTRFS partition.
[14:24] <lordievader> EvilRoey: Yes.
[14:24] <EvilRoey> pics or it didn't happen
[14:24] <lordievader> Ah, perhaps with btfs it works differently...
[14:24] <lordievader> Try it ;)
[14:24] <EvilRoey> lordievader, seeeeeee
[14:25] <lordievader> Perhaps the text installer is able to do it though. For the more complex setups I allways go with the text installer.
[14:25] <yossarianuk> Draggin: you really want lxqt
[14:25] <lordievader> Or you do a debootstrap install, that'll work ;)
[14:26] <Draggin> Well, the battery on this laptop is almost gone now too... Guess I'll have to go do some reading or something that doesn't require electricity :P Thanks lordievader and BluesKaj_ for the advice and suggestions. I'll see how far I get and report back. Who knows, next time I log in here might be from the "new" old computer ;)
[14:27] <BluesKaj_> Draggin, good luck :)
[14:27] <Draggin> yossarianuk - that also looks great... Thanks for the suggestion
[14:28] <lordievader> Draggin: Good luck!
[14:28] <Draggin> Ciao everyone! Chat soon :)
[17:33] <dsemblano> Hi everyone, is there already kde 4.14.3 for kubuntu ppa? I already had  4.14.2
[17:34] <dsemblano> i'm using kubuntu trusty
[17:37] <lordievader> !info libkdecore5 kubuntu-backports
[17:37] <lordievader> dsemblano: Doesn't seem to be backported yet.
[17:44] <dsemblano> lordievader: oh, I see. Thanks for the info :)
[19:19]  * XeBlackWater is away: I'm busy
[21:56] <nha> Hi. Is ppa:neon/kf5 repository still the recommended way to get KDE Frameworks 5 on 14.10/utopic? Specifically, I would like to be able to try out kdevelop master (which is kf5-based), _without_ switching everything over to Plasma 5. What's the least painful way to do that?
[22:05] <soee> nha: neos is abandoned
[22:05] <soee> there is kubuntu-ci now
[22:07] <nha> Thanks for the pointer
[22:34] <nha> Hmmm... browsing through the KDE Wiki, I suspect some stuff needs updating. If I understand this correctly, KDE Frameworks 5 is part of the normal Utopic, and it's only Plasma 5 which requires a separate PPA. Is that correct?
[22:35] <nha> It seems so from the package lists, but that doesn't match what's written on https://community.kde.org/Frameworks/Binary_Packages ...
[22:46] <whoppaz13> Hello I'm having a VPN issue with the cisco vpn client for Kubuntu.  Can anyone here help?