[11:59] <djura-san> Hi there. Where can i find bzr for lubuntu-icon theme?
[12:03] <leszek> djura-san: I don't think there is an archive for this on launchpad
[12:03] <leszek> but it should be included in the lubuntu-artwork package that you can also find as source package on launchpad
[12:03] <djura-san> leszek: so my only sollution for now i sto get archives from packages.ubuntu.com and then import them to my distro?
[12:03] <djura-san> *solution
[12:08] <djura-san> okay leszek, thank you for the informations.
[12:09] <leszek> djura-san: you can also find the source of the package on launchpad I guess
[12:13] <djura-san> leszek: okay, i will check onto it.
[13:03] <synth> hi
[13:03] <synth> anybody here?
[13:04] <Guest49899> I tried installing wine via sudo apt-get install wine
[13:04] <Guest49899> but I keep getting the Unable to fetch some archives
[13:13] <SynthAxe> anyone?
[13:13] <SynthAxe> okkk
[14:53] <suncokret> hellp
[14:53] <suncokret> hello
[14:54] <suncokret> did somebody try LXQt?
[15:00] <phillw> several have, just be aware it may eat kittens as it is still a work-in-progress
[15:04] <suncokret> is it use more RAM memory than LXDE?
[15:17] <phillw> about the same
[15:24] <suncokret> how long Lubuntu will use LXDE?
[15:52] <zy3pD3> do i need dnsmasq to resolve the entries of the /etc/hosts file?
[16:01] <rabbit_>  hi! lxsession settings are different for each desktop environment you have installed, right? If sO
[16:01] <rabbit_> is there a way to reset the defaults for lxsession from a different desktop environment (for example, reset the lubuntu defaults while using lubuntu netbook)
[16:21]  * wxl stretches
[16:21]  * wxl forcefully sips hotel coffee
[16:22] <rabbit_> what's wrong with the coffee wxl?
[16:22] <genii> It's hotel coffee. Enough said.
[16:22] <wxl> what genii said
[16:23] <rabbit_> if i ever had coffee in a hotel.. i guess i must have.. it wasn't bad or good enough to make an impression on me
[16:23] <wxl> rabbit_: so what are you trying to accomplish?
[16:23]  * wxl can be a bit of a coffee snob
[16:24] <rabbit_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2255455 < here's my problem in more detail, i'm guessing the problem is i mixed with the lxsession settings too much, or at least that could be it. so if i can reset them to defaults i can eliminate that possibility
[16:25] <wxl> holy crow
[16:26] <wxl> i'm guessing the problem is in lxsession
[16:28] <wxl> look at ~/.cache/lxsession/Lubuntu/run.log and see if you find any clues
[16:28] <wxl> also might want to compare the files in ~/.config/lxsession between the different sessions
[16:29] <wxl> there are other system-wide files in /etc/xdg/lxsession too
[16:31] <wxl> rabbit_: you get all that? :)
[16:33] <rabbit_> k let's have a look, thanks :)
[16:35] <rabbit_> ok this is interesting.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/9384369/
[16:35] <wxl> you're using nautilus?
[16:37] <rabbit_> yes
[16:37] <wxl> look at the config files and see what lxsession exepects the file manager to be
[16:38] <rabbit_> Unhandled error message: Error when getting information for file '/.config/lxsession': No such file or directory
[16:38] <rabbit_> what did i do wrong?
[16:38] <wxl> um
[16:39] <wxl> ~/.config not /.config
[16:39] <wxl> there's a difference :)
[16:40] <rabbit_> wupps ._.
[16:40] <rabbit_> file_manager/command=nautilus file_manager/session=lubuntu file_manager/extras=
[16:41] <wxl> hm i wonder if the problem isn't that nautilus can't handle the session name
[16:41] <wxl> i'm not exactly sure how nautilus works :/
[16:41] <wxl> change that command to pcmanfm and i'm pretty sure you'll be good to go
[16:42] <rabbit_> cool beans
[16:42] <rabbit_> , all that matters is that the file manager link i have on my panel is to nautilus anyway.. hope this works
[16:43] <rabbit_> brb, logging out and in
[16:55] <Noreen> it's rabbit, i'm on my mom's computer because that just broke mine
[16:56] <wxl> Noreen: now none of the sessions work?
[16:56] <Noreen> i can't log in because the only things that start are launchy and empathy, i can't log otu because ctrl alt t won't open a terminal, and my computer automatically starts into lubuntu when i restart
[16:56] <Noreen> the other sessions probably work but i can't get into them
[16:57] <Noreen> maybe i can open a terminal with launcy! hang on..
[16:58] <Noreen> lol of coruse i can't.. the keyboard software hasn;'t loaded so i can't type
[16:58] <Noreen> i'll need to make a live usb
[17:00] <Noreen> i can't believe lxsession woudl let you break something this badly just by adding 2 startup programs, it didn't even ask for my password and i wasn't root or anything.. i didn't know adding 2 startup[ programs would make them the only startup programs
[17:02] <polson8> in the good old days, if the GUI had a problem, one could ctrl-alt-backspace to bail out to a command prompt. I don't think that still works though...
[17:02] <Noreen> i'll try anyway
[17:03] <Noreen> thanks
[17:03] <Noreen> nope.. to be honest i'm surprised the off button even works
[17:04] <Noreen> at least it's an excuse to tryout puppy tahr
[17:04] <polson8> glad you have an idea what to do. :) this is why I'm so hesitant to mess with my config.
[17:05] <Noreen> well the lxsession files for the other desktop managers are fine.. so my next idea is to copy the lubuntu netbook lxsession files into the lubuntu lxsession files
[17:06] <Noreen> wxl remind me the location of the config files?
[17:06] <Noreen> the one i got wrong first, that i forgot to put the tilde in
[17:06] <wxl> Noreen: ~/.config
[17:07] <wxl> ~/.config/lxsession to be exact
[17:07] <wxl> in it should be folders for each session
[17:07] <Noreen> cool beans :)  yeah it was
[17:07] <Noreen> puppy is downloading
[17:08] <Noreen> 199mb I <3 puppy
[17:09] <Noreen> this is the third time ive broken lubuntu in 2 days
[17:09] <wxl> i have a feeling that's not lubuntu's fault. :)
[17:09] <Noreen> lol
[17:09] <Noreen> i know for a fact it's not
[17:09] <wxl> does your mom irc or is your name noreen?
[17:10] <Noreen> neither, the xchat took the windows user name
[17:10] <wxl> ah
[17:10] <Noreen> she should irc, she has xchat now, i'll tell her about the joy of it..
[17:10] <wxl> there ya go
[17:12] <wxl> offtopic: nowplaying How to Promote a Live Grenade by The Legenadary Pink Dots https://legendarypinkdots1.bandcamp.com/album/how-to-promote-a-live-grenade (free as in beer, but not speech, sorry)
[17:26] <Noreen> what do you call the thing you get in a file manager when you press ctrl + l
[17:40] <Noreen> argh i can't find the ~/.config/lxsession file though puppy
[17:51] <Noreen> is home directory not the file called home? there's no .config there, there's one in root but it doesn't have lxsession
[17:51] <wxl> ~/ = /home/yourusername/
[17:52] <Noreen> ah i see it now, i forgot to show hidden files when i was in it
[17:52] <Noreen> yeah the autostart file just as two words in it.. launchy and empathy.. that's... that's happy
[17:56] <wxl> i think the important thing is comparing the sessions that work with those that done
[17:56] <wxl> s/done/don\'t/
[17:57] <Noreen> yup
[17:57] <Noreen> @xfce4-power-manager < do i need that? i'm looking here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1967577
[17:57] <wxl> helpful but not necessary
[17:58] <polson8> is that just an energy saver thing?
[17:58] <Noreen> k
[17:58] <wxl> it's for dealing with batteries
[17:59] <polson8> oh...
[18:00] <Noreen> rebooting, fingers crossed
[18:00] <Noreen> yes! thunderbirds are go!
[18:00] <wxl> you fixed it?
[18:00] <Noreen> yup :D
[18:01] <Noreen> wait..
[18:01] <Noreen> no..
[18:01] <Noreen> lol
[18:01] <Noreen> lubuntu starts up now but i can't type or use a cursor
[18:02] <Noreen> actually the cursor is working it's just invisible
[18:23] <rabbit_> could someone tell me the contents of ~/.config/lxsession    the file "desktop.conf"  you can put it here http://paste.ubuntu.com/ (a lot of pastebins are banned in turkey but the ubuntu one isn't)
[18:24] <wxl> rabbit_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9385544/ but mine's not totally native
[18:24] <wxl> in particular i don't think x-window-manager is used for the window manager
[18:24] <wxl> and i may have changed x-terminal-emulator too
[18:24] <rabbit_> well if it works that's something! i'll save the one it has now to my desktop just incase i have to undo
[18:26] <rabbit_> brb
[18:26] <rabbit_> oh and thanks!
[18:26] <rabbit_> :)
[18:27] <wxl> rww:
[18:27] <wxl> argh sorry
[18:28] <cinimoon> i have instructions for compiling firefox that say 4GB RAM minimum recommended. mysystem has 480MB. Is it hopeless? or is there another way to compile firefox.
[18:29] <wxl> cinimoon: sounds like a #firefox question :)
[18:29] <cinimoon> thanks
[18:30] <rabbit_> ok i can type and ihave a cursor now, everything is good except my windows haven't got any decoration, i mean the top bar with minimize, maximize, close... it's not htere
[18:32] <wxl> rabbit_: set the right selection for x-window manager with `sudo update-alternatives --config x-window-manager`
[18:32] <wxl> or you can see the default desktop.conf here https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-dev/lubuntu-default-settings/trunk/view/head:/src/etc/xdg/lxsession/Lubuntu/desktop.conf
[18:32] <wxl> but note that one's out of trunk, so you may have to look at the branches that relate to your specific version
[18:33] <rabbit_> i can't read what you said because there's a window in front of this window that won't minimize
[18:33] <rabbit_> xkill isn't working
[18:33] <wxl> cinimoon: hey i got an idea for you. get an account at c9.io or koding.com and build it there, then transfer the binaries over, perhaps via sftp
[18:34] <rabbit__> ok! i opened another irc window. what did you say?
[18:34] <wxl> rabbit_: set the right selection for x-window manager with `sudo update-alternatives --config x-window-manager`
[18:34] <wxl> or you can see the default desktop.conf here https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-dev/lubuntu-default-settings/trunk/view/head:/src/etc/xdg/lxsession/Lubuntu/desktop.conf
[18:38] <rabbit_> sorry, can you send me the default address for that one last time?
[18:38] <rabbit_> had to logout
[18:38] <wxl> or you can see the default desktop.conf here https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-dev/lubuntu-default-settings/trunk/view/head:/src/etc/xdg/lxsession/Lubuntu/desktop.conf
[18:40] <rabbit_> thanks! trying again
[18:41] <wxl> oh moinmoin why don't you deal with nesting correctly?!
[18:42] <rabbit_> yay! everything's back to normal
[18:42] <rabbit_> except my icons are different.. let's see if i break lubuntu a .. is it fourth now? a fourth time trying to change my icon theme
[18:42] <rabbit_> thank you so much for your help :)
[18:43] <wxl> no problem
[18:43] <wxl> rabbit_: you should document this on a blog
[18:43] <wxl> most lubuntu users just use lubuntu and don't chnage things
[18:43] <wxl> sounds like you are making some dramatic changes
[18:44] <rabbit_> i just wanted launchy and empathy to start on startup.. but that's a good idea. i'll definately explain what the problem was on the ubuntu forum thread in case someone else has the same problem
[18:44] <wxl> you should post the results to the mailing list
[18:45] <wxl> it would be nice if the docs team could work it in somehow
[18:45] <rabbit_> cool
[19:00] <Ahmuck> has there been a recent update to ubuntu's adobe flash implementation?
[19:05] <Ahmuck> nevermind.  it's flashblock/firefox changes that have broken flashblock
[19:06] <wxl> Ahmuck: have you looked at the chnagelog?
[19:11] <Ahmuck> message on flashblock states "flashblock is no longer compatibale with firefox 34.0."
[19:13] <wxl> is that a problem with the uhhhh config file whatever it's called in firefox exentions?
[19:13] <wxl> isn't 34 beta?
[19:14] <Ahmuck> no it's not 34 beta according to the about information displayed by firefox
[19:14] <Ahmuck> it's 34.0
[19:15] <Ahmuck> unless the 0 stands for beta
[19:15] <wxl> hehehe
[19:15] <wxl> yeah it's not beta
[19:15] <Ahmuck> no, i disabled it and now i don't even have an option to enable it
[19:15] <wxl> weird
[19:16] <Ahmuck> there are other flashblock options, just not the one that was working
[19:16] <wxl> 1.5.17 says it works with 34.* https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/flashblock/?src=search
[19:16] <wxl> fixed here https://github.com/diafygi/flashblock-firefox34/raw/master/flashblock-1.5.17-fx.xpi
[19:17] <Ahmuck> software really needs an install option called virgin mode or promiscous mode
[19:18] <wxl> virgins are not usually promiscuous
[19:18] <wxl> well, not at least if they want to stay virgins
[19:18] <wxl> :)
[19:18] <Ahmuck> yes, privacy mode or i don't care who knows mode
[19:19]  * XeBlackWater is away: I'm busy
[19:20] <Ahmuck> ah, and a Madonna mode, aka "reset mode"
[19:21] <wxl> madonna's totally not a virgin.
[19:22] <wxl> even when she was "like a virgin."
[19:22] <wxl> unless you mean THE madonna, and that's kind of a different thing.
[19:23] <Ahmuck> hrm, hilton mode?  "i know everybody knows but i want my privacy back"
[19:24] <Ahmuck> yes, the madonna reference was to her song.  no, i don't know popular media much outside of media reports
[19:24] <Ahmuck> anyway you get the idea, i'll be quiet.
[19:24] <wxl> Ahmuck: patches welcome :)
[19:25] <Ahmuck> part of it was in reference to the new adobe flash configuration i just had to shut down by hand.
[19:32] <rabbit_> virginity doesn't exist
[19:32] <rabbit_> how could you lose something by having sex
[19:33] <rabbit_> or like.. olives
[19:33] <wxl> um, do we care to have an anatomical question, because there is an answer for that
[19:33] <wxl> at this point we might want to move to offtopic :)
[19:35] <rabbit_> i'll find someway to related it to lubuntu.. hmmm... you can break lubuntu riding a bike.. you can break your hymen riding a bike.. you cannot lose your virginity riding a bike..
[19:36] <rabbit_> isn't lubuntu pretty? i like it.
[19:36] <holstein> rabbit_: no need.. just use the #lubuntu-offtopic channel for that.. thanks!
[19:36] <rabbit_> sorry
[21:39] <koziskey> been trying to  get nvidia 7300le driver to work, i have tried many guides from google but no luck. Can anyone help?
[22:02] <phillw> Unit193: can you re -add in the be patient bit and wait more than 10 minutes bit?