| menace | hi, i packaged a firefox-addon, but i cannot add it to reprepro because of the Error: 'unmht_7.3.0.1-0ubuntu1.debian.tar.gz' has the wrong architecture to add it to trusty! any idea, what's wrong with my package? (package is here located is http://yac1912x.gbks.net/misc/) | 00:01 |
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| menace | lintian does not really give me hints... | 00:03 |
| xnox | menace: debian.tar.gz is not a package, but one component of a debian source package.... | 00:04 |
| xnox | menace: do you have "source" architecture enabled in the config? | 00:04 |
| xnox | menace: no probably want to add a .dsc or .debs or .changes (that reference a set of .dsc/.debian.tar.gz/.debs) into reprepro | 00:05 |
| slangasek | brainwash: hi, so you asked me about the xfce4 meta package... that seems like a reasonable change to me, but I'm not sure why you asked me in particular :) | 00:06 |
| menace | xnox: what does source architecture mean? | 00:06 |
| menace | i did try to add the changes file and so the dsc and deb file with that changes file | 00:07 |
| xnox | menace: .dsc is a debian source package - which is just metadata pointing to upstream tarball + debian packaging tarballs, those can be compiled (e.g. with dpkg-buildpackage) to create .debs. debs can be different architectures e.g. _all.deb / _i386.deb / _amd64.deb | 00:08 |
| menace | my distributions file seems normal: http://yac1912x.gbks.net/misc/distributions | 00:08 |
| menace | xnox: yes, im aware of that. but the debian.tar.gz file is part of the source files afaik? | 00:09 |
| xnox | menace: in practice repositories can publish one or more things typically refered to as source / all / i386 / amd64 etc. architectures. | 00:09 |
| xnox | menace: yes and no. by itself it's meaningless. only .dsc & .deb have meaning. | 00:09 |
| xnox | menace: one cannot publish a single ".debian.tar.gz" or attempt to do so. | 00:10 |
| xnox | menace: the distributions file is odd - it is allowed to only publish _amd64.deb and no other type of files. | 00:10 |
| xnox | and _all.deb (as that's implied) | 00:11 |
| xnox | menace: you should change that to Architectures: amd64 source, if you wish to publishes sources (one may have to do that depending on the license of software you are publishing) | 00:13 |
| menace | ah | 00:16 |
| menace | hm | 00:16 |
| menace | it works with amd64 source | 00:17 |
| menace | hrm | 00:18 |
| menace | thanks! :-) | 00:19 |
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| Bobby___ | Hello all. I am trying to get sound playback working on an Intel Bay Trail tablet. I do not get a sound device with any firmware except for with 5339.B in the Intel ChromiumOS repo. With this firmware I only get static or no sound at all though. I have played with all the alsamixer settings and tried the ASUS t100 state file that is commonly used still with no sound. What can I do to fix this? | 04:30 |
| developerpenguin | he guys | 04:31 |
| developerpenguin | can someone please help me ? :) | 04:32 |
| Noskcaj | jtaylor, Could you please check if we can sync statsmodels now? debian has had a number of test fixes | 04:41 |
| pitti | Good morning | 05:09 |
| Unit193 | Herro. | 05:09 |
| jtaylor | Noskcaj: probably not but I was planning on just syncing it and see | 05:34 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 08:10 |
| LocutusOfBorg1 | hi dholbach ! | 08:34 |
| dholbach | hi LocutusOfBorg1 | 08:34 |
| tjaalton | huh, cron is not running the jobs in /etc/cron.d/ on vivid? | 08:56 |
| pitti | stgraber: is there a trick to get sudo to work in a per-user container? | 09:06 |
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| tseliot | pitti: hey, does your systemd service for gpu-manager also start when the display manager is shut down? | 10:05 |
| pitti | tseliot: you mean "does not start at all", or "gets shut down'? | 10:06 |
| pitti | tseliot: if it doesn't start at all, neither will gpu-manager | 10:06 |
| pitti | tseliot: the upstart script didn't do that, and it seems rather pointless to do that, no? | 10:06 |
| tseliot | pitti: the old upstart job would also launch gpu-manager on shutdown | 10:07 |
| pitti | tseliot: oh, how so? | 10:07 |
| pitti | it just has "start on starting lightdm or ..." | 10:07 |
| tseliot | pitti: or maybe lightdm took care of that, let me check | 10:07 |
| pitti | not that I can see | 10:08 |
| pitti | tseliot: i. e. it shoudl exactly mirror the upstart job right now | 10:08 |
| tseliot | pitti: ok, then it's a non issue, sorry for the noise | 10:08 |
| pitti | tseliot: no worries at all, thanks for double-checking! | 10:09 |
| tseliot | pitti: BTW are we going to have systemd by default in 15.04? | 10:09 |
| pitti | tseliot: that's the idea anyway; it now depends on how fast we can do the migration, and how fast the server team can migrate their upstart-only packages | 10:10 |
| pitti | tseliot: the idea was to have a virtual mini-sprint in January to convert the remaining bits | 10:10 |
| tseliot | pitti: ok, so for now I'll have to install it manually in Vivid | 10:10 |
| pitti | http://people.canonical.com/~jhunt/systemd/packages-to-convert/ | 10:10 |
| pitti | tseliot: yes, either boot with init=/bin/systemd (no package changes) for an one-time test, or instlal systemd-sysv to boot with it by default | 10:11 |
| pitti | tseliot: in the latter case, init=/sbin/upstart will boot with upstart again | 10:11 |
| pitti | jodh: btw, it seems http://people.canonical.com/~jhunt/systemd/packages-to-convert/ doesn't update | 10:11 |
| pitti | jodh: I added systemd units to ubuntu-drivers-common two days ago; pollinate did disappear now (also from two days ago) | 10:11 |
| tseliot | pitti: do you mean init=... as a boot parameter? | 10:12 |
| pitti | tseliot: yes, in the kernel line in grub | 10:12 |
| Unit193 | Or in /etc/default/grub if you're too lazy to install -sysv. | 10:12 |
| tseliot | pitti: I can see that nvidia-prime needs porting too | 10:13 |
| tseliot | yes, I know how to customise grub ;) | 10:13 |
| jodh | pitti: hmm, really? It's reading from the internal archive and the script auto-updates from bzr? | 10:14 |
| pitti | /lib/systemd/system/gpu-manager.service | 10:14 |
| pitti | /etc/init/gpu-manager.conf | 10:14 |
| pitti | jodh: that should match, no? | 10:14 |
| jodh | pitti: should do. | 10:16 |
| pitti | jodh: ok, let's check tomorrow then; yesterday pollinate was still in, so maybe something is just lagging | 10:17 |
| jodh | pitti: cron is now running hourly - I just re-ran manually so hopefully it now reflects your expectation. | 10:34 |
| pitti | jodh: oh, daily is certainly more than enough; I suppose it's not exactly cheap | 10:39 |
| pitti | jodh: vivid main package admin/ubuntu-drivers-common requires systemd migration (sysv=False, upstart=True, systemd=False) | 10:40 |
| pitti | jodh: hm, no, this should be systemd=True, and thus disappear entirely | 10:40 |
| pitti | jodh: unless there is some problem with having upstart+systemd but not sysvinit? | 10:40 |
| pitti | jodh: this only checks per-package, right? e. g. systemd is shipping /lib/systemd/system/hostname.service to shadow the one from the "hostname" package | 10:41 |
| cjwatson | xnox: syncio> if you want; my care levels about wubi are pretty low now :) | 10:51 |
| pitti | xnox: oh nice, that's our only remaining patch -- so we can sync again? | 10:54 |
| pitti | xnox: I did a (local) merge two days ago to test somethign (was fairly trivial, so not much work lost really), but didn't talk to you yet | 10:55 |
| jodh | pitti: can't debug right now I'm afraid. Here's the code: lp:~ubuntu-foundations-team/+junk/migration-to-systemd. You can run the shell script directly on people.c.c. | 10:57 |
| pitti | jodh: ah, thanks | 10:57 |
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| brainwash | slangasek: I've asked you, because you are subscribed to the linked bug report :) | 11:00 |
| brainwash | slangasek: and my last comment in the report did not get any response so far | 11:01 |
| brainwash | bug 1080865 | 11:01 |
| ubottu | bug 1080865 in xfce4 (Ubuntu) "Debian instead of Ubuntu grub splash" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1080865 | 11:01 |
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| pitti | GunnarHj: should I build utopic langpacks now? or are there still some -docs to land? | 14:05 |
| GunnarHj | pitti: No, ubuntu-docs was built (in utopic-proposed) a few days ago. All set. | 14:06 |
| pitti | GunnarHj: ah right, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-docs/14.10.5; so off we go! | 14:06 |
| pitti | GunnarHj: .. or not -- we didn't get an export yet :( https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/utopic/+language-packs | 14:07 |
| pitti | wgrant: ^ is something stuck, or just taking longer? | 14:08 |
| pitti | probably taking longer because of the full export | 14:08 |
| pitti | GunnarHj: ok, I'll try and build them on Monday then, but I won't have much time for testing | 14:09 |
| GunnarHj | pitti: Ok.. I don't know how all that works. Thought the build was what's needed. | 14:15 |
| pitti | GunnarHj: yes, but we should also have an up to date translation export | 14:24 |
| GunnarHj | pitti: I'm slowly understanding the nature of the problem. ;) | 14:25 |
| GunnarHj | pitti: It's LP which is slow, right? | 14:26 |
| pitti | GunnarHj: a full export just takes quite a bit longer, yes | 14:26 |
| cjwatson | It *looks* like it's still running (in that the log doesn't end in a crash of some kind), but it does seem to be taking unusually long | 14:28 |
| cjwatson | Normally seems to take in the general vicinity of an hour, and it's been running for nearly four now | 14:29 |
| shadeslayer | didrocks: can you retry bluedevil? | 14:29 |
| shadeslayer | didrocks: in the transitions PPA | 14:30 |
| didrocks | shadeslayer: sure, doing | 14:33 |
| shadeslayer | though I messed up and the build dep version should have be bumped | 14:34 |
| didrocks | shadeslayer: well, now we should have a publication cycle (so for next update ;)) | 14:35 |
| * cjwatson wonders if it counts as patch piloting when he just spent five hours cleaning up after inscrutable test failures caused by a sponsorship request | 14:55 | |
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| stgraber | pitti: hmm, no, it should just work. Unless somebody regressed something recently. | 15:04 |
| pitti | sudo: effective uid is not 0, is /usr/bin/sudo on a file system with the 'nosuid' option set or an NFS file system without root privileges? | 15:09 |
| pitti | stgraber: that's what I get; it might of course be an artifact of running under systemd | 15:09 |
| pitti | stgraber: err *blush* sorry, my /home/.ecryptfs/martin/.Private is indeed nosuid | 15:10 |
| stgraber | pitti: right, ecryptfs does that :) | 15:12 |
| pitti | stgraber: yeah, quite plausible to have /home on nosuid, I figure | 15:12 |
| pitti | so, sorry for the noise | 15:13 |
| GunnarHj | pitti: Looks like it's there now. https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/utopic/+language-packs | 15:19 |
| pitti | GunnarHj: ah, good! | 15:19 |
| cjwatson | Oh yes, it just took 4h39m for some reason. | 15:20 |
| sladen | `. | 15:26 |
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| shadeslayer | question, what would be the value of uppderdir will be when using overlayfs such that any changes that are made are discarded | 15:29 |
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| bdmurray | mvo_: Could you have a look at bug 1399455? | 15:59 |
| ubottu | bug 1399455 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Vivid) "distribution upgrade from utopic uses DistUpgradeViewText" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1399455 | 15:59 |
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| pitti | GunnarHj: I started the build, but that'll take a while, I can't test them today any more; I'll see to test/upload them on Monday then | 16:06 |
| GunnarHj | pitti: Ok, thanks for letting me know. Have a nice weekend! | 16:07 |
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| slangasek | brainwash: I am? I have no idea why I'm subscribed to such a bug report ;) (bug #?) | 16:39 |
| tjaalton | is it possible to get sbuild work with a non-local (ldap) user? looks like it needs the user in the chroot passwd/group | 17:05 |
| brainwash | slangasek: bug 1080865 | 17:07 |
| ubottu | bug 1080865 in xfce4 (Ubuntu) "Debian instead of Ubuntu grub splash" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1080865 | 17:07 |
| slangasek | brainwash: oh, indeed - yeah, that proposed solution seems fine, I was only involved in triaging that bug out of grub :-) | 17:17 |
| brainwash | slangasek: can you apply the solution? if no, I'm not sure who I could bother with this | 17:21 |
| slangasek | brainwash: it seems to me this should be done by the xubuntu devs? | 17:39 |
| brainwash | slangasek: maybe. the package is not actually part of xubuntu | 17:41 |
| brainwash | slangasek: it's just there to install the normal Xfce desktop environment, synced directly from debian | 17:41 |
| brainwash | slangasek: easiest solution would be to ignore the debian-ization caused by desktop-base and don't add a ubuntu delta -> won't fix | 17:43 |
| brainwash | it's only a recommended package after all, but it is pulled in by default unless you add --no-install-recommends | 17:45 |
| mark999 | so what happens if I accidentally upload a package to upload.ubuntu.com? will it just get deleted if the package isn't signed? | 18:06 |
| infinity | brainwash: If xfce4 isn't pulled in by xubuntu (and it doesn't seem to be), I'd say it's a WontFix. Rebranding every package we sync from Debian in case someone might install it and complain is probably a waste of time. | 18:07 |
| mark999 | dput uploaded a package to my private repo... and then decided to also ftp it to upload.ubuntu.com | 18:07 |
| infinity | mark999: If it's unsigned, it just goes to /dev/null, yes. | 18:07 |
| mark999 | whew! | 18:07 |
| mark999 | its contents were somewhat sensitive, so I'm glad | 18:08 |
| mark999 | should the default dput config upload to ubuntu? I was expecting it to do nothing by default, and didn't look at /etc/dput.cf | 18:08 |
| infinity | mark999: Is it a graphical frontend to your diary from puberty? Cause man, I wouldn't want that out there. | 18:08 |
| mark999 | shhhhhh | 18:09 |
| infinity | mark999: Default in Debian is to ftp-master and default in Ubuntu is to ubuntu, yes. Feel free to remove the default (many do) to avoid shooting yourself in any feet, though. | 18:09 |
| mark999 | I will! should it _really_ be the default, though? | 18:10 |
| infinity | mark999: I don't think you'll ever get a straight answer on that. | 18:10 |
| mark999 | heh | 18:10 |
| infinity | mark999: People like me, who upload 99% of our uploads to Ubuntu or Debian tend to appreciate (and assume there should be) a default. | 18:11 |
| infinity | mark999: In Ubuntu, one could make the argument that dput's used more often for PPAs than for the archive, and maybe we shouldn't have a default. Dunno. | 18:11 |
| infinity | mark999: The private repo argument likely doesn't factor at all, as almost no one runs such infrastructure, compared to people uploading to an official archive or ppa.lp.net | 18:11 |
| mark999 | well, if unsigned stuff gets deleted by default, no harm done. | 18:11 |
| mark999 | ah yea | 18:12 |
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| mark999 | my company is doing something similar to google's goobuntu | 18:12 |
| infinity | mark999: Well, unsigned stuff gets rejected (obviously), but no reject mail is sent, cause we don't have a way to validate who it came from. So, effectively, it's like it never existed. This is true for both launchpad and DAK. | 18:12 |
| mark999 | cool | 18:12 |
| infinity | mark999: It does, however, sit around in a rejected/ directory for a while until a cron job or a human gets around to cleaning it out. If it's super-sensitive to the point where you don't even want it sitting in a trash bin on a Canonical server, you could ask us nicely to go in and delete it without looking at it. :P | 18:16 |
| infinity | mark999: Probably not worth the effort, though. The people with access to that machine is a tiny list, and not the sort that go reading random rejected upload for funsies. | 18:17 |
| infinity | mark999: (Again, true for an accidental upload to either Ubuntu or Debian... Different lists of people, different liabilities, but same general theory that none of them really care about reading it) | 18:18 |
| brainwash | infinity: can you please mark the report as won't fix? | 18:19 |
| mark999 | infinity: thanks. not really *that* sensitive | 18:21 |
| cjwatson | mark999: it can be nuked easily enough if you like, see your /query from me | 18:22 |
| slangasek | brainwash: ah. another option then would be to remove the package from Ubuntu altogether, if it's not the right experience on Ubuntu? | 18:22 |
| brainwash | slangasek: but it's needed to install the normal Xfce desktop environment (not the Xubuntu session) | 18:24 |
| infinity | slangasek: Ahh, indeed, xfce4 has no rdeps, blacklisting it would work too. | 18:24 |
| infinity | brainwash: Is this a valuable thing to do? | 18:24 |
| brainwash | some people prefer the normal Xfce experience, especially those who install ubuntu in the first place and then install Xfce on top of it | 18:25 |
| brainwash | so they just run "sudo apt-get install xfce4" | 18:25 |
| brainwash | and this pulls in desktop-base by default | 18:26 |
| infinity | Well, I commented on and closed the bug, per your request. :P | 18:26 |
| cjwatson | mark999: requested removal from sysadmin so it should happen soon; I can't wait around for it right now, but consider it done | 18:27 |
| brainwash | infinity: thanks you :) | 18:27 |
| infinity | I think if you actually expect Ubuntu users to intentionally install xfce4 (rather than accidentally), you might want to fix this. | 18:27 |
| brainwash | thank | 18:27 |
| mark999 | I appreciate it! | 18:27 |
| infinity | But I have no strong opinion on the matter. | 18:27 |
| brainwash | infinity: the uproar is very small, so I guess that these users manage to remove the desktop-base package manually or prevent the installation in the first place | 18:29 |
| brainwash | IF they don't like the debianization | 18:29 |
| infinity | brainwash: Or that most people aren't installing "xfce4" :) | 18:29 |
| brainwash | we get quite few reports from users which are running ubuntu + xfce4 (not xubuntu) | 18:30 |
| brainwash | it's the obvious package choice if you've installed ubuntu first and then want to test a different DE like Xfce | 18:31 |
| brainwash | or "gnome" for the gnome DE | 18:32 |
| Unit193 | Hello. Is there a chance someone with super cow powers can sync gcalcli from experimental? API changes fix, old version is unusable. | 19:06 |
| Noskcaj | Unit193, requestsync ? | 19:12 |
| Noskcaj | Can someone please check why banshee-community-extensions won't migrate? | 19:58 |
| infinity | Noskcaj: It makes banshee-extension-lyrics uninstallable. | 20:01 |
| infinity | Ahh. | 20:05 |
| infinity | Noskcaj: banshee : Breaks: banshee-extension-lyrics (< 2.4.0-3~) but 2.4.0-2ubuntu1 is to be installed | 20:05 |
| infinity | Noskcaj: It needs a merge to the latest Debian version. | 20:05 |
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| Noskcaj | hyperair, Should banshee go back to dbus# 2 now the LTS has been released? | 20:36 |
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