[05:48] <Kilos> morning superfly theblazehen_ and others
[05:49] <theblazehen_> hi Kilos
[06:00] <Kilos> wbb
[06:13] <ThatGraemeGuy> mornings
[06:14] <bduk1> Morning everyone
[06:17] <theblazehen_> Hi ThatGraemeGuy bduk1 
[06:30] <nlsthzn> so just for the record we are on the agenda for the up and coming loco council meeting the 16th
[06:31] <nlsthzn> it will be on #ubuntu-meeting and starts at 22:00
[06:37] <Squirm> morning
[06:45] <theblazehen_> hi Squirm
[08:08] <Kilos> Maaz: tell nlsthzn dont be cheeky
[08:08] <Maaz> Kilos: Sure, I'll tell nlsthzn on freenode
[08:08] <nlsthzn> ?
[08:08] <Maaz> nlsthzn: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell nlsthzn dont be cheeky" 26 seconds ago
[08:08] <Kilos> hahaha ty nlsthzn 
[08:09] <nlsthzn> Maaz, tell Kilos "Objection!"
[08:09] <Maaz> nlsthzn: Sure, I'll tell Kilos on freenode
[08:09] <nlsthzn> :p
[08:09] <Kilos> objection denied
[08:09] <Maaz> Kilos: By the way, nlsthzn on freenode told me "tell Kilos "Objection!"" 13 seconds ago
[08:09] <nlsthzn> objected twice :p
[08:09] <Kilos> both denied take it to the small claims court
[08:12] <nlsthzn> :)
[09:24]  * Squirm yawns
[09:41] <Kilos> lol
[09:47] <Kilos> wbb
[10:18] <superfly> hi Kilos
[10:19] <theblazehen> hi superfly
[10:24] <superfly> hi theblazehen
[11:36] <Kilos> theblazehen: baking today hey?
[11:36] <theblazehen> Kilos: ya :(
[11:36] <Kilos> hows your bp behaving
[11:36] <theblazehen> been good lately
[11:36] <Kilos> good
[12:11] <Squirm> loadshedding at 4 again
[12:35] <Kilos> ai!
[12:35] <Kilos> i see they blaming it on diesel supply now
[13:13] <Kilos> hi Joe_knock 
[13:13] <Kilos> oh my what did inetpro break now
[13:14] <Joe_knock> Hey there
[13:16] <charl> good afternoon
[13:16] <charl> hi Kilos, Joe_knock, theblazehen 
[13:16] <theblazehen> hi charl
[13:17] <Kilos> hi charl 
[13:17] <charl> and superfly 
[13:17] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[13:17]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[13:17] <charl> very interesting conference yesterday
[13:17] <Kilos> about?
[13:17] <Kilos> Maaz: coffee please
[13:17] <Maaz> Kilos: Sure
[13:17] <Joe_knock> Do any of you support the DA?
[13:18] <Kilos> they all crooks
[13:18] <theblazehen> ooh, fun subject.. :)
[13:18] <charl> the democratic *ssholes?
[13:18] <Kilos> all politisions are crooked and liars
[13:18] <charl> correct Kilos 
[13:18] <Kilos> politicians
[13:19] <charl> that in addition to democracy being fundamentally flawed
[13:19] <charl> meritocracy is more the thing
[13:20] <Joe_knock> I was just reading an article of how the WC is like a police state, but then again, the article had an agenda behind it.
[13:21] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl and Kilos!
[13:21] <Kilos> Maaz: ty
[13:21] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[13:21] <charl> a Water Closet?
[13:21] <charl> Kilos: thanks
[13:21] <Joe_knock> Western Cape
[13:21] <charl> Maaz: thanks
[13:21] <Maaz> charl: Okay :-)
[13:21] <charl> sorry Kilos 
[13:21] <Kilos> for what?
[13:22] <charl> i'm apoligising for thanking you incorrectly :D
[13:23] <Kilos> wb inetpro what did you break?
[13:23] <Joe_knock> the three of them left and came back at the same time.
[13:24] <Joe_knock> Could be the server they're all connecting to
[13:25] <charl> standard netsplit looks like ?
[13:25] <charl> oh no, ping timeout, they probably are all located on the same BNC host
[13:34] <Kilos> ya they work in same building
[13:35] <Squirm> meh
[13:35] <Squirm> Load Shedding stage 3
[13:35] <Squirm> ThatGraemeGuy: this sucks :/
[13:41] <Kilos> sigh
[13:43] <Joe_knock> Must be kwaai to be an exec at eskom. solid salary, loadshed that cherry that dumped you back in highschool, etc.
[14:05]  * Kilos waits for power to go
[14:06] <Kilos> the govt is now forming a committee to investigate eskom to see whats gone wrong
[14:07] <Joe_knock> I don't understand what a task-team is supposed to do except waste resources and time
[14:10] <Squirm> meh
[14:10] <Squirm> in loadshedding
[14:10] <Squirm> :/
[14:10] <Squirm> Company still runs
[14:10] <Squirm> for the most part
[14:10] <Squirm> UPS ftw
[15:51] <inetpro> good evenin
[15:58] <Joe_knock> evening
[16:19] <theblazehen> hi inetpro
[16:28] <inetpro> too hot in Pretoria in the last two days
[16:34] <Kilos> sigh
[16:34] <theblazehen> inetpro: agreed
[16:34] <Kilos> inetpro: topic bar needs sorting please
[16:43] <Kilos> next meeting is the 16th and from here we will go to #ubuntu-meeting just before 22.00
[16:44] <SilverCode> does anyone know of any sms providers that are free for very low volumes (ie. I just need to send an SMS to myself when the UPS goes on battery)?
[16:45]  * Squirm looks around
[16:46] <SilverCode> heck, does anyone even know an sms service that isn't a bulk sms provider
[16:46] <Squirm> SilverCode: can you not use email?
[16:46] <Squirm> If you have an Android phone, your gmail emails are pushed for you
[16:47] <SilverCode> I thought about that, but I usually have email notifications turned off on my phone
[16:47] <Squirm> Otherwise look at using a GSM Modem, there's a small cli application called smssend
[16:48] <SilverCode> hmmm....good point
[16:48] <Squirm> Maybe an old USB 3G modem would work
[16:48] <SilverCode> I have an old Vodacom GSM modem lying around somewhere
[16:49] <Squirm> in smssend all you do is specify the device on the conf file, then a simple command to send the message.
[16:50] <Squirm> We seemingly have a fancy UPS. It's networked. Our servers run apcupsd
[16:51] <Squirm> so we can schedule when they're shut down
[16:51] <theblazehen> SilverCode: 3g card?
[16:52] <theblazehen> yeah..
[16:52] <SilverCode> *sigh* Vodacom have discontinued my sim
[16:52] <gremble> That was quite rude of them
[16:52] <SilverCode> *disconnected
[16:53] <Squirm> it costs you about ~50c for a new one
[16:53] <SilverCode> well, I haven't used it in about 13 months
[16:53] <Squirm> and a bit of time
[16:53] <gremble> Ironically, if you get a new phone they charge you R200 for a new sim
[16:53] <gremble> Even if you don't need it
[16:53] <SilverCode> the time is the part I don't like ... I miss being able to pick up a starter pack at the till on my way out and just use the thing. No need to RICA
[16:54] <Squirm> well. you can still pick it up
[16:54] <gremble> These days you pretty much have to RICA/FICA to fart, so you may as well have the necessary documentation with you
[16:54] <Squirm> just take along your ID book and proof of residence
[16:54] <Squirm> takes an extra minute or two
[16:58] <Squirm> anyway, might bbl
[17:03] <Joe_knock> don't some of the dodgy dealers do pre-RICAs? So you could end up being Beatrice Ndlovu from Soshanguve as well
[17:08] <Kilos> lol
[17:08] <Kilos> hi gremble 
[17:10] <Joe_knock> Pretoria is quite cold these days
[17:10] <gremble> Good evening Kilos 
[17:10] <gremble> What?
[17:10] <gremble> It has been blazing hot
[17:10] <gremble> Pretty sure I nearly died of heatstroke today
[17:10] <Joe_knock> *sarcasm ;)
[17:10] <Kilos> hopefully storm coming
[17:12] <Joe_knock> hopefully not tonight
[17:22] <Kilos> everything is dry. we need water from the sky
[17:24] <Kilos> methinks the pro broke something, he didnt even greet today
[17:25] <Kilos> come on gremble i was out in the sun this avy cutting trees down and digging out dubbeltjies
[17:27] <Kilos> sjoe weather liars say we 18 c tonight
[17:27] <Kilos> and only 31c tomorrow
[17:27] <Kilos> Maaz: forecast pretoria
[17:27] <Maaz> Kilos: Thursday: Partly Cloudy. High: 30° C., Thursday Night: Clear. Low: 17° C., Friday: Partly Cloudy. High: 32° C., Friday Night: Chance of Rain. Low: 17° C., Saturday: Thunderstorm. High: 28° C., Saturday Night: Thunderstorm. Low: 16° C., Sunday: Chance of a Thunderstorm. High: 28° C., Sunday Night: Chance of a Thunderstorm. Low: 14° C., Monday: Chance
[17:27] <Maaz> of a Thunderstorm. High: 22° C., Monday Night: Chance of a Thunderstorm. Low: 15° C., T…
[17:28] <gremble> You're a better man than I Kilos. When the power went out, I napped
[17:28] <gremble> :P
[17:28] <Kilos> hmm... he uses a different weather reader thing
[17:28] <Kilos> no man im just a sun lover
[17:29] <Kilos> i cant do maths
[17:29] <Kilos> used to be good at judging sizes though
[17:29] <Kilos> 34/26/32
[17:31] <Joe_knock> lol oom. skill got picked up seeing all those bikini-clad women
[17:31] <Kilos> yeah
[17:33] <Kilos> wind howling now
[17:34] <Kilos> soon the boom booms come
[17:58] <Joe_knock> new guy?
[17:59] <Kilos> no he is a yank thats here somewhere
[17:59] <Kilos> doesnt say much
[18:09] <Joe_knock> Could be a CIA spy :O
[18:10] <Kilos> haha who knows
[18:10] <Kilos> Wraz: are you a cia spy?
[18:12] <Wraz> Sometimes, but I am not new :)
[18:12] <Kilos> no need to lurk, ask and well tell you
[18:12] <Wraz> ek weet.
[18:12] <Kilos> you well?
[18:13] <Wraz> Yes :)
[18:13] <Wraz> Yourself ?
[18:13] <Kilos> good, enjoying the heat here?
[18:13] <Kilos> im good ty
[18:13] <Wraz> Heat ?
[18:13] <Wraz> I am in lodnon, no heat here/
[18:13] <Wraz> London . *
[18:13] <Kilos> oh my i forget, arent you in pta as well?
[18:14] <Kilos> oh my werent you here last year
[18:14] <Wraz> Nah, I was a Durbanite
[18:14] <Joe_knock> u sure he isn't south african living abroad?
[18:14] <Kilos> durbs my fav place
[18:14] <Wraz> yeah, i went there for about a month last year
[18:15] <Kilos> well if you in london you wont have felt todays 35 c
[18:15] <Wraz> today I am just hoping there is no snow or ice
[18:16] <Joe_knock> london is 1 crap city
[18:16] <Wraz> I have to drive to work, i dont want a car covered in ice
[18:16] <Kilos> lol
[18:16] <Wraz> Well, you cannot really escape the heat
[18:16] <Wraz> if its cold, you wear cloathes or put the heater on
[18:16] <Wraz> In SA, you hope you have aircon
[18:16] <Kilos> lol
[18:17] <Wraz> but aircon works by dehumidfying the air, so thats not healthy
[18:17] <Wraz> Here there are like no snakes, miggies, spider or anything under the rocks
[18:17] <Wraz> or in the bushes
[18:17] <Kilos> hahaha
[18:17] <Wraz> except for like house spiders, foxxes and slugs
[18:18] <Wraz> and there are seasons
[18:18] <Wraz> days are not all the same length
[18:18] <Wraz> some days are very short and it gets dark at about 4pm
[18:18] <Wraz> as it is now
[18:18] <Kilos> eish
[18:18] <Wraz> some days are long and it gets bright at like 4 am and gets dark at like 10-11
[18:18] <Wraz> Seasons, they are not just in the stories
[18:19] <Kilos> hehe
[18:19] <Joe_knock> we have surfing, hah! beat that
[18:19] <Wraz> We do too
[18:19] <Wraz> weatsuit and rocks included
[18:19] <Wraz> extreme surfing
[18:20] <Wraz> at the moment you freeze your fucking balls off (some guys find that a turn on) but we have nice warm beaches for half the year atelast :P
[18:20] <Wraz> it is just miserable half the time
[18:20] <Wraz> what is that to a computer geek ? :P
[18:20] <Kilos> ya
[18:21] <Wraz> I went down to the nudist beaches recently
[18:21] <Wraz> was great fun
[18:21] <Wraz> my brother is avid surfer with balls harder than ice, he went surfing every morning just like he did in sa, every day of the year ;0
[18:21] <Wraz> ocean does not freeze
[18:21] <Kilos> eish
[18:22] <Wraz> No wonder he is having trouble having another kid lol :P
[18:22] <Wraz> I should tease him on it
[18:22] <Wraz> but it would be too cruel ;/
[18:23] <Kilos> lol
[18:24] <Joe_knock> so you're south african? Wraz 
[18:24] <Wraz> Yeah
[18:24] <Wraz> but I got uk indefinate leave to remain last week 
[18:24] <Wraz> Have to renew my SA passport this week
[18:26] <Joe_knock> oom said you're a yank
[18:26] <Kilos> i coulda sworn he told me he was a visitor from the states
[18:26] <Wraz> nie
[18:27] <Kilos> oh well , i must have you mixed up with someone else
[18:27] <Kilos> ram faulty
[18:28] <Wraz> lol
[18:28] <Kilos> thats what happens when you still use sdr ram
[18:33] <Joe_knock> Oom you must go to campus with gremble next year to see the ladies in their skirts
[18:34] <Kilos> lol
[18:35] <Kilos> id rather go see what their pcs are like
[18:36] <Kilos> no not even that then ill eat my heart out
[18:36] <Joe_knock> they use i5 machines I think. all proline sheet
[18:37] <Kilos> prfoline only yucky untill you wipe windows and go linux
[18:37] <Kilos> proline
[18:38] <Joe_knock> i tried picking up a used machine once, it was impossible to buy it
[18:38] <Kilos> what do they do with them
[18:38] <Wraz> AMd seem superior to Intel in processors and motherboards at the mo
[18:38] <Kilos> id love to upgrade this pc to i5
[18:39] <Kilos> there is that new haswel thing
[18:39] <Kilos> super fast
[18:39] <Kilos> 8 cores
[18:41] <Joe_knock> nee oom, intel doesn't yet work on 8 cores. the i7 haswell is 6 proper cores, and the i5s they have are 2nd/3rd generation with max 4 cores
[18:41] <Wraz> http://www.ebuyer.com/661538-intel-core-i7-5930k-3-50ghz-socket-2011-v3-15mb-cache-retail-boxed-processor-bx80648i75930k?utm_source=google&utm_medium=products&gclid=CNaS-t_Gr8ICFRHHtAodlxoAFQ ?
[18:43] <Joe_knock> that thing looks good for gaming or servers only
[18:44] <Kilos> again i read wrong
[18:44] <Wraz> Paralell processing is the only real path forward with more throughput required, amd seem superior in this regaurd
[18:45] <Joe_knock> It took me a while to understand also oom, and then too I don't get it all yet
[18:45] <Kilos> http://www.engadget.com/2014/08/30/review-roundup-intels-8-core-haswell-e/
[18:45] <Wraz> for the last 15 years I have been an intel fanboy, i still love their sponsoring opencv. but meh
[18:46] <Kilos> intels work good
[18:47] <Kilos> i saw an add for a gaming pc with that haswell cpu in ,  R60 k they wanted
[18:47] <Kilos> only Symmetria can afford that kinda stuff
[18:52] <Joe_knock> I wouldn't spend R5K on a desktop :P
[18:53] <Kilos> sjoe
[18:53] <Symmetria> heh
[18:53] <Symmetria> why not
[18:54] <Symmetria> in 18 hours I'll be married *hohum*
[18:54] <Kilos> hahaha
[18:54] <Kilos> another one bites the dust
[18:55] <Symmetria> heh well, I'll be married under kenyan law
[18:55] <Wraz> :)
[18:55] <Symmetria> but it woudnt be recognized in the rest of the world I dont think
[18:55] <Symmetria> heh, the normal wedding is only in August 
[18:55] <Symmetria> this is step one, the traditional wedding
[18:56] <Joe_knock> You a kenyan fellow? Symmetria 
[18:56] <Symmetria> heh, Im South African but I moved to Kenya a fair while ago :)
[18:58] <Joe_knock> Is your wife a kenyan lady? :O
[18:59] <Symmetria> yes
[19:02] <Joe_knock> aah that is cool.  I must encourage you to have your child born in europe, so you can be truly "international" :D
[19:13] <Kilos> night all of ya. sleep tight
[19:29] <gremble> If your kid is born on an emirates flight, it can fly for free with them for life
[19:30] <theblazehen> gremble: thanks for the tip..
[19:30] <gremble> That's what she said
[19:30] <gremble> I'm so funny for myself
[19:30] <gremble> I crack me up
[19:50] <theblazehen> Yeah..
[21:04] <Joe_knock> gremble: No alcohol before campus closes?
[21:16] <gremble> No alchohol?
[21:16] <gremble> I had a beer on campus before my last exam if that counts?
[21:19] <Joe_knock> congrats :P
[21:19] <gremble> Hey, I ended up passing geology :P
[21:19] <gremble> Did quite well in that exam for some unknown reason
[21:20] <Joe_knock> congrats!!!
[21:21] <gremble> Thanks
[21:33] <Joe_knock> oupamster? :O
[21:34] <gremble> oupameester?
[21:35] <Joe_knock> his real name says oupamster :-/ 
[21:36] <Joe_knock> I'm doing collaborative editing for an OSS project gremble :P
[21:37] <gremble> OSS? The organisation that turned into the CIA?
[21:37] <gremble> :o
[21:38] <gremble> What program are you using to collaboratively edit?
[21:39] <Joe_knock> We were first using an online editor, but the other guy is fussy, so we're using Gobby now.
[21:47] <gremble> Last time I did something like that, the guy set up a small VPS and we shared a screen session
[21:47] <gremble> It was really weird
[21:51] <Joe_knock> this guy setup a gobby server.