| holstein | velho: the "actual" risk is.. its *not* ubuntu anymore | 00:52 |
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| holstein | velho: they are not our sources, and we (ubuntu/ubuntustudio) cant say they are stable or not | 00:53 |
| holstein | velho: now, i *do* know, and trust falk, as i said before.. falk is the kxstudio developer | 00:53 |
| velho | holstein, I wish to have the best of both UbuntuStudio and KXStudio worlds. If I see any incompatibilities, I'm willing to resolve them. Solving problems = learning :) | 04:14 |
| holstein | velho: you will be running kxstudio | 04:14 |
| holstein | which is fine | 04:14 |
| velho | holstein, I'm still running UbuntuStudio. I didn't add the kxstudio desktop (yet), just the apps+plugins repos | 04:15 |
| holstein | velho: if you added the repos, then, thats what you are using.. *not* ubuntustudio | 04:16 |
| holstein | velho: which again, is fine.. but, its *not* ubuntustudio anymore.. they are not the ubuntustudio applications anymore | 04:16 |
| velho | It seems to me that the kxstudio has more programs and plugins, but after updade, upgrade, and distro-upgrade everything, I didn't see ardour3. I found it very strange... thought if would be a default to US and KXS | 04:17 |
| holstein | velho: it is | 04:17 |
| holstein | falk packages and maintains an ardour3, and ubuntustudio has been shipping with it since it was released | 04:18 |
| velho | holstein, it was not on my system. had to install it alone | 04:18 |
| holstein | velho: its on mine, | 04:18 |
| holstein | velho: it ships with ubuntustudio | 04:19 |
| velho | holstein, I thought so! that's why I found it so strange... | 04:19 |
| holstein | velho: sure.. but, its not so strangs | 04:19 |
| holstein | strange* | 04:19 |
| holstein | velho: you "play around" with the system, a lot.. which is fine, but, you can remove things and change things and not realize what is happening in the background | 04:20 |
| velho | holstein, I'm a danger to myselt in Linux, lol :D | 04:20 |
| velho | still learning how its supposed to work. want to understand the core system, specially for audio | 04:22 |
| holstein | well, it ships as its supposed to work.. but, you are welcome and encourages to change it as you please | 04:22 |
| holstein | i always install ardour from the ardour site directly, anyways.. i pay for the prebuilt binary rigth from paul | 04:23 |
| velho | holstein, are there aditional ardour packages in synaptic? | 04:24 |
| holstein | velho: check and see.. ardour2 should still be there | 04:24 |
| holstein | there is just ardour.. | 04:24 |
| velho | I only installed ardour3. Any problems if I install ardour allong ardour3? | 04:24 |
| holstein | velho: i have them both installed.. you should be careful with your sessions.. | 04:25 |
| velho | holstein, by "carefull" you mean: separate project folders for different ardour versions, I guess? | 04:25 |
| holstein | why guess? | 04:26 |
| holstein | i can only tell you what i do.. which is, what i read to do at the ardour site.. | 04:26 |
| velho | holstein, gonna check the site ;) | 04:26 |
| holstein | a2 (which is ardour2) sessions open in a3 (ardour3).. but, you get a new session name | 04:26 |
| holstein | so, what do i do? i copy.. and i maintain different copies | 04:27 |
| holstein | though, i dont use ardour3 anyways.. | 04:27 |
| holstein | i just keep it for testing.. i personally use the commercial product mixbus, which is based on ardour2, and the sessions are ardour2 sessions | 04:27 |
| holstein | i am equally careful with those sessions. i always make a backup, using the 3 2 1 rule, for missions critical data | 04:28 |
| holstein | i'll track, then, i'll *immediately* make a copy onto a drive or 2 and let someone else have a copy at a different location, if its that important | 04:29 |
| holstein | if its something im paid to make sure happens, i make sure it happens.. | 04:29 |
| holstein | im actually quite experiemental as well.. but, i have backups, and test as much as i can before doing anything in production | 04:30 |
| holstein | when i ran the kxstudio ppa's on my system regularly, i ran 2 machines.. i would update one, and test *everything* before updating my production machine | 04:30 |
| holstein | now, i go with more of an AVlinux "appliance" approach, and just dont update my production rig, and dont have it online anyway | 04:31 |
| velho | holstein, inteligent stratergy ;) | 04:31 |
| velho | holstein, why don't you use ardour3, except for testing? is it buggy? | 04:32 |
| holstein | velho: no | 04:32 |
| holstein | velho: i dont need anything it provides, so i dont use it | 04:32 |
| holstein | velho: im not interested in doing midi with it.. and i like/understand/am-comfortable-with ardour2, so why upgrade? | 04:32 |
| holstein | when i need something ardour3 provides, or, when mixbus is based on ardour3, and i move on to it, then, i'll use it | 04:33 |
| holstein | otherwise, im used to a2.. | 04:33 |
| holstein | when i read "new version released", these days, i'll ask "do i need/want a new version?" and "whats my upgrade path?" and "how long to train myself to use the new stuff?" | 04:35 |
| velho | holstein, well, I hope not to take too long to start making music in linux | 04:45 |
| delt | Hello | 14:53 |
| delt | quick question about dns... how can i force the resolver to use my /etc/resolv.conf and not overwrite it? | 14:54 |
| delt | i'm having problems with some hosts on my network if it just contains "nameserver 127.0.0.1" | 14:54 |
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| rustyraptor | I just installed some programs for cuda. Mainly named "libcuda" | 15:06 |
| rustyraptor | and xorg crashed. | 15:06 |
| rustyraptor | it seems like it uninstalled a lot of other packages too. | 15:07 |
| rustyraptor | I am able to get onto the guest account from recovery mode but I can't fix anything because it doesn't let me sudo or anything. | 15:07 |
| rustyraptor | what do? | 15:07 |
| === guest-vM67FX is now known as rustyraptor | ||
| delt | problem solved: moved the file (symlink), made a new copy of it, and did chattr +i on it | 15:46 |
| delt | btw holstein: i found what was causing that problem with qjackctl | 15:49 |
| delt | .... there's a "notification area" and an "indicator plugin" - it depends on which one the icon appears, which on my desktop machine is always the indicator plugin, and on my laptop, the notification area | 15:50 |
| delt | for some reason. | 15:50 |
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| studio_ | im very close but still cant get any sound from any linux distro using ardour... | 20:26 |
| studio_ | presently using ubuntu studio | 20:27 |
| studio_ | didnt think that coming from windows 7 cakewalk to linux would be soooo dificult | 20:28 |
| holstein | studio_: sure | 20:29 |
| holstein | studio_: you are promised, explicitly, support for windows 7 and cakewalk | 20:29 |
| holstein | the creators of your hardware dont promise you the same support for linux | 20:29 |
| holstein | what i suggest is, unplug any audio interfaces, and learn to use jack on the internal audio device | 20:30 |
| studio_ | what should be my first steps to get midifiles running in ardour? | 20:30 |
| holstein | *dont* start with ardour.. close it as well.. and start with something like audacious set to the jack driver | 20:30 |
| holstein | studio_: or, yoshimi | 20:30 |
| studio_ | ok | 20:30 |
| holstein | studio_: hear literally *anything* on *any* device.. step one | 20:30 |
| holstein | simlify the applications and devices as needed.. | 20:31 |
| studio_ | so ok | 20:31 |
| studio_ | i can gear sounds fine when using hydrogen | 20:32 |
| holstein | studio_: sure.. but, over JACK? | 20:32 |
| studio_ | not sure ill check brb | 20:33 |
| studio_ | i cant see in hydrogen where the sounndfad is coming from but i can hear it from the laptop speakers by de | 20:38 |
| holstein | sure.. so, what i suggest is, unplug any extra audio devices.. usb or firewire.. stop *everything*, and make sure jack isnt running | 20:38 |
| studio_ | ok | 20:39 |
| holstein | lauch *only* qjackctl or jack control.. set up jack with the default device.. see that jack starts when clicking the start button and runs with no errors | 20:39 |
| holstein | *then* only after jack is running.. start yoshimi | 20:39 |
| holstein | you can go back to qjackctl connect and see that the audio is routed properly | 20:40 |
| studio_ | starting jackctl | 20:40 |
| holstein | then, you can go to yoshimi and use the keyboard in the menu, the virtual keyboard, to generate sounds | 20:40 |
| studio_ | qjackctl started with no errors | 20:42 |
| holstein | studio_: no | 20:42 |
| holstein | studio_: qjackctl is the GUI to start jack with | 20:42 |
| holstein | studio_: qjackctl would launch without errors.. you would the use that tool to configure JACK and press the start button, which would attempt to start JACK | 20:42 |
| holstein | is that what you mean? | 20:43 |
| studio_ | i have started qjackctl as you suggested | 20:43 |
| holstein | studio_: ok.. *so*.. following the steps above.. *please* in setup, select the default audio device.. and start jack | 20:44 |
| studio_ | ok | 20:44 |
| holstein | !proaudio | 20:45 |
| ubottu | For information on professional audio tools in Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/ProAudioIntro | 20:45 |
| studio_ | starting jack produces a drumbeat.1...2....3....4....etc | 20:46 |
| studio_ | jack started | 20:49 |
| holstein | studio_: ok. so looking above where i mentioned steps, you *then* can open yoshimi | 20:49 |
| holstein | studio_: in qjackctl, you'll see "connect".. there, you can connect then things that show up in JACK | 20:50 |
| studio_ | ill try brb | 20:50 |
| holstein | studio_: in "connect", you connect yoshimi to your audio device.. in the "audio" tab | 20:50 |
| holstein | *then*, you go to yoshimi, and open, as i stated above, the virtual keyboard from the menu.. you can then click notes on it, and see that you are hearing them | 20:51 |
| holstein | you shouldnt hear a drumbeat when starting jack, since, nothing else should be on, or open. because i asked you to close everything | 20:51 |
| holstein | you should literally have qjackctl open.. and now be opening yoshimi | 20:52 |
| holstein | *nothing* else | 20:52 |
| studio_ | ok yoshima open | 20:54 |
| studio_ | clicked on connect and have connected left and right to yoshma | 20:55 |
| holstein | *great*.. thats how you connect *everything* | 20:55 |
| studio_ | gotit ok ta | 20:55 |
| holstein | if you hear yoshimi, then, JACK is working properly.. | 20:56 |
| holstein | do you? | 20:56 |
| studio_ | not sure how to produce notes with yoshima | 20:57 |
| holstein | studio_: as i stated, in the menu you will see "virtual keyboard" | 20:57 |
| holstein | studio_: you click on the menu item to launch it.. then, when you click on the virtual keybaord, you hear yoshimi.. | 20:57 |
| studio_ | gotit | 20:57 |
| holstein | *if* things are working | 20:57 |
| studio_ | shows playing but cant hear anything | 20:58 |
| holstein | studio_: so, you *dont* have jack working properly, then | 20:58 |
| studio_ | it seems so | 20:58 |
| holstein | studio_: there is *no* reason to go opening ardour, or *anything* else | 20:58 |
| holstein | studio_: you stay *right* there, til you hear something | 20:58 |
| studio_ | ok | 20:59 |
| holstein | studio_: open a terminal, and run "alsamixer" see that nothing is muted, and eveything is up to some level | 20:59 |
| studio_ | ok | 20:59 |
| holstein | studio_: check *all* mute buttons and hardware switches | 20:59 |
| studio_ | cannot see if anything is muted...doest look as if it is | 21:02 |
| studio_ | all meters say 100 | 21:02 |
| holstein | studio_: in "connect", see that you are connecting properly | 21:02 |
| studio_ | one meter says mm | 21:02 |
| holstein | studio_: you cant trust *any* labels | 21:03 |
| holstein | studio_: so, just tweak *all* of those settings | 21:03 |
| studio_ | ill have a good fiddle | 21:04 |
| holstein | thats step one | 21:04 |
| studio_ | gotit yoshima playing...coulnt hear the lower register notes | 21:09 |
| holstein | studio_: ok.. so, now you know | 21:09 |
| holstein | studio_: thats how you route things.. | 21:09 |
| studio_ | gotit | 21:09 |
| studio_ | thanks a lot | 21:09 |
| studio_ | to play midi do i connect midi capture to midi playback? | 21:12 |
| LinuxGold | what is the command line for pulseaudio manager (volume control)? | 22:25 |
| LinuxGold | trying to set up samson c01u mic for audacity | 22:25 |
| LinuxGold | nvm, got it | 22:29 |
| LinuxGold | thanks | 22:29 |
| Unit193 | pavucontrol? or paman? padevchooser? Depends on what you want to do. | 22:29 |
| LinuxGold | alsamixer got it done. | 22:30 |
| Unit193 | Heh, that's a handy one. | 22:30 |
| LinuxGold | oh yes | 22:30 |
| LinuxGold | :) | 22:30 |
| LinuxGold | http://vxlabs.com/2013/04/24/samson-c01u-usb-condenser-microphone-on-ubuntu-12-04/ | 22:30 |
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