[01:34] <matte88_> hello everybody!
[01:35] <Unit193> Howdy.
[01:41] <matte88_> guys I'd like to contribute to xubuntu development but I don't know where to start. I'm a young computer engineer (I'm 25, got my MS last year) and it would be great to write some code for xubuntu. Can you please address me? I've already an account on launchpad, created a gpg key, etc (followed the tutorial)
[01:43] <knome> hello
[01:44] <knome> on the coding front, xubuntu doesn't have *too many* applications built/maintined "in-house"
[01:44] <knome> but we do rely much on xfce, and work with them too
[01:45] <knome> so maybe that would be a good place to start... in addition to the obvious "work on something that scratches your own itch"
[01:45] <knome> that said, is there a specific area where/app which you would like to help with?
[01:47] <matte88_> not really right now..I think that it would be great to understand how do you guys work for now
[01:47] <matte88_> then I'll figure it out :)
[01:48] <matte88_> I mean it would be great to work on some core functions, but I'm aware that's early right now
[01:53] <Noskcaj> matte88_, Maybe take a look at the xfce bugzilla
[01:53] <knome> well, most of our "core" functions come from xfce, so that's the place to contribute for those
[01:54] <knome> anyway, to get to know people, hang out in this channel, take part in meetings (next one is on sunday, 18UTC)
[01:54] <Noskcaj> and of the apps that aren't xfce, most are written in python and maintained by bluesaber (our head of developement)
[01:54] <knome> and/or ochosi, and others
[01:56] <matte88_> great! what will be the topic of the meeting?
[01:56] <knome> matte88_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Processes might be useful to get some idea what's going on as well, and for development things, i can specifically encourage reading the "Release cycle" subsection; for an idea of the scope, you should look at the "Packages related to Xubuntu" subsection
[01:57] <knome> meetings cover anything and everything that relates to xubuntu
[01:57] <knome> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings always has the agenda for the next meeting (which is empty right now though)
[01:58] <knome> but those who can, take part on the meeting and update on what they have been working on (and if they have cleared any of the open action items assigned to them)
[01:58] <knome> outside that, it's mostly freeform
[01:58] <knome> (even that is pretty freeform, but that we do every time)
[01:59] <matte88_> sounds good. I'll try to meet you on sunday them
[01:59] <matte88_> *then
[01:59] <knome> the meetings page also has the minutes from the last meeting, so you can get an idea how it goes
[01:59] <knome> welcome! :)
[02:00] <knome> and if you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask on this channel or the mailing list, people are friendly and willing to help
[02:00] <Unit193> Except me, I'm the local jerk.
[02:00] <matte88_> that's awesome! 
[02:00] <knome> mm... beef jerky
[02:00]  * knome bites Unit193 
[02:01] <matte88_> Unit193 you helped me a lot on the other channel!!
[02:02] <matte88_> gotta go now..see you soon guys, and thank you very much one more time
[02:02] <knome> matte88_, you'll learn how people have different sense of humor too. Unit193 has those weird, submissibe jokes.
[02:02] <knome> submissive too.. :P
[02:02] <Unit193> Self deprecating.
[02:03] <knome> now there's only Unit192 left.
[02:03] <knome> he became scared of our dry jokes :(
[02:04] <knome> "got... to... get.. OUT!"
[02:05]  * skellat is reminded you need a particular sense of humor for developing Xubuntu
[02:05] <knome> that helps.
[02:05] <knome> i would say it's obligatory to have ANY sense of humor.
[02:07] <skellat> Well, I got lost in trying to figure out how to respond to somebody who really wanted to contribute to *buntu overall but apparently had no luck signing the Code of Conduct let alone using GnuPG
[02:07] <skellat> I just couldn't find a way to not sound cold in replying to that person's situation
[02:07] <knome> maybe they could have helped in a non-technical way
[02:08] <knome> granted, some people have a strong will, but not the skills
[02:08] <knome> and that's okay as well :)
[02:08] <skellat> Yep
[02:09] <skellat> Are we actually talking about anything really big in Sunday's meeting?
[02:09] <skellat> The agenda is otherwise blank
[02:09] <knome> i doubt so
[02:09] <knome> but who knows?
[02:10] <skellat> I can't promise I won't have the lights go out on me this time
[02:10] <skellat> Though I will say I've got *very* good UPS units that kept me online when we did have the power outage
[02:11] <knome> well you know, it's just a meeting... :)
[02:11] <knome> with weirdos from the internet, that is
[02:12] <skellat> Yep
[02:15] <Unit193> knome: That's quite the truth right there, think the same way. :P
[02:15] <knome> it isn't quite the truth, it is the truth :P
[10:12] <Unit193> http://paste.openstack.org/show/z61xQGIifwtHm0o0AxJD/ just seen in -devel.
[10:13] <slickymasterWork> my vivid box is upstart free
[10:15] <ochosi> those of you who run vivid already, are there any grave issues?
[10:16] <ochosi> i'd like to do a real install this weekend, ideally before the weekend
[10:16] <ochosi> err, before the meeting
[10:16]  * ochosi needs coffee
[10:17] <slickymasterWork> other than bug 1399131, nothing special so far ochosi
[10:18] <Unit193> ochosi: Wonderful!  OK, so do we care about -hamster-plugin at all?
[10:18] <Unit193> I have no real hardware installs, waiting until after A1.
[10:21] <ochosi> ok, thanks slickymasterWork 
[10:21] <ochosi> Unit193: i always forget what that plugin was all about...
[10:21] <slickymasterWork> np ochosi 
[10:21] <ochosi> do you have it packaged already? then i'll just install and test it quickly
[10:22] <Unit193> ochosi: Elaborate time tracker, so it'd seem.  Feel free to bump the question to bluesabre.
[10:25] <ochosi> oh right
[10:25] <ochosi> so you don't have a package for it yet then?
[10:25] <ochosi> generally a time-tracker sounds useful
[10:25] <Unit193> Of course, it's in extras, that's why I ask.
[10:26] <Unit193> "Newest version on remote site is 1.6, local version is 1.2" is more specifically why I want to know, but nevertheless.
[10:27] <ochosi> ok, i'll test it now
[10:27] <ochosi> and sorry for not just looking instead of asking :)
[10:27] <Unit193> Meh, it works.
[10:28] <Unit193> You had me now, easier to ask.  Been there.
[10:30] <ochosi> woot, that pulls in "hamster-indicator"?
[10:31] <ochosi> hm, looks sorta useful to me
[10:31] <ochosi> so it's under active development right now?
[10:31] <Unit193> Should be hamster-applet, actually.  And yeah.
[10:32] <ochosi> well hamster-applet too
[10:32] <Unit193> -applet recommends -indicator, it's dumb like that.
[10:34] <ochosi> yeah
[10:34] <ochosi> silly
[10:34] <Unit193> It's part of the merge from Debian, how silly.
[10:35] <Unit193> * Recommends hamster-indicator (LP: #1049078) - Jamie Strandboge
[13:03] <brainwash> ochosi: https://github.com/gottcode/xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin/issues is back
[13:15] <ochosi> brainwash: i know
[14:41] <elfy> ochosi: I've not seen any thing that would count as a grave issues in vivid, not seen anything more than piddling ones - but I don't suspend, use more than one monitor, run it on laptop 
[14:57] <ochosi> ok, thanks elf
[14:57] <ochosi> elfy: 
[14:58] <elfy> welcome :)
[14:59] <elfy> I hope that when you do that you'll report the image stuff on the tracker ;)
[21:08] <Unit193> Well, new -hamster-plugin up anyway, can evaluate later I guess.
[22:12] <Unit193> https://launchpad.net/~unit193/+archive/ubuntu/xfce/+packages <--- hamster, that is.