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darlahi  to all03:31
the-ermI'm having problems with my screen going black and never coming back.  In particular if I close the laptop lid.  Sometimes I'll leave the computer for over an hour and it goes black.  When I come back only the TV connected to my HDMI will work.  Any ideas?  I've played around with the power manager a lot.  Even switched to xscreensaver.04:00
the-ermI wanted my music to play while the screen was locked ...04:00
holsteinthe-erm: if it were my machine, i would just disable the locking, and dont use suspend.. and look for a bug report, and a fix around the net..04:01
the-ermEven pressing ctrl+alt+F1 will not bring up the terminal on the laptop screen.04:01
holsteinyou can try proprietary drivers, if there are any..04:01
holsteinthe-erm: also, i had one like that, and looking at it in the light showed that the LCD backlight was off.. but, the screen had information on it.. which helped me find a "Fix"04:01
the-ermI should try the light thing.04:02
the-ermPerhaps the backlight isn't turning back on.04:02
holsteinand, no proprietary drivers?04:02
holsteinhas it always been like that? has it worked with *any* linux kernel? or distro?04:02
the-ermI don't think I'm using proprietary drivers.04:03
holsteinthe-erm: check that there are none for you to try and use04:03
the-ermI didn't turn them on at least ... doesn't look like there is away to detect that any more in 14.0404:03
holsteinthe-erm: i use the terminal to determine what graphics hardare i have, then, the wiki/web to see what is available04:04
holstein!ati04:04
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto04:04
the-ermThere it is additional drivers ...04:04
the-ermIt didn't have an icon ... od.04:04
kortsenCan I get some help with a USB thumb drive? How do I get it to mount at boot-up?04:06
holsteinkortsen: at boot up?04:06
holstein!fstab04:06
ubottuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions04:06
holsteinthough, i wouldnt do it that way, unless its going to *always* be connected04:06
kortsenfstab for a thumb drive?04:07
kortsenyews it will always be connected04:07
holsteinkortsen: if you want it present at boot, add it in fstab04:07
kortsenThanks.04:07
the-ermI guess I should reboot to see if this thing works.04:10
kortsenholstein? thanks. One more question. If I am using a 64gb thumb drive as a 'poor man's SSD' what would be a good file system? It's currently FAT32.04:18
holsteindepends04:19
holsteini like to use ext, if im only on linux..04:19
kortsenMovies for XBMC. Large files, write once. read occasionallly04:20
holsteinso, fat32 has a file size limit04:20
holsteinas i said, if im on linux only, i prefer ext04:20
kortsenEXT4?04:21
holsteinif you need to go between windows and linux, fat32 may be easier, if you are not faced with the file size limit04:21
holsteinkortsen: that *also* depends.. if i need what etc4 provides, i'll use it. .otherwise, i might just to with ext2, or what i feel fits my specific need best04:21
jarnosWhy does firefox read hundreds of MBs from disk after startup?05:45
nomiccache? jarnos06:00
jarnosnomic, I think so.06:03
jarnosnomic, Cached Web Content set up in Advanced > Network preferences06:04
sennnhello super xfce08:50
louigiHey guys! When I try to uninstall some of the software that came with Xubuntu, it says that it will then uninstall a lot of the dependencies. Which seems to make it impossible to uninstall some software. For instance, I cannot uninstall Parole, which I do not use09:43
louigiIs there any way around it? And why uninstalling a video player means uninstalling half if xfce?09:43
louigiif=of09:43
baizonlouigi: well i did uninstall parole09:43
Unit193How is that?  How did you install?  I don't have a lot of the Xubuntu defaults.09:44
baizonpost on paste.ubuntu.com which dependencies09:44
louigiOk, gimme a moment here09:44
louigiHm. You know what. Tried this through Synaptic - uninstalling absolutely fine. I am sorry! I do remember that problem, but I am not able to reproduce it now!09:46
baizonno problem09:47
etwarriorHas anyone figured out a solution to the black screen in macbook sometimes after sleep mode (or shutting the laptop?)12:59
cfhowlett!mac | etwarrior, probably better to ask mac forums13:00
ubottuetwarrior, probably better to ask mac forums: For help on installing and using Ubuntu on a Mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages13:00
AgAuor better yet get a pc :P13:00
ted123on my lenovo thinkpad ctrl+two finger scrool zooms my entire screen in/out. does anyone know how to disable this?13:22
brainwashted123: disabling the compositor is one way to deactivate this feature13:24
ted123brainwash: elegant :D13:24
brainwashthe other one would be to hack the source code of the window manager13:25
brainwashyeah, it should be made configurable at some point13:26
brainwashI'm not even sure if a bug report already exists13:26
ted123brainwash: well thank you. yes it can be really annoying for some laptop users13:26
brainwashfeel free to file a report on https://bugzilla.xfce.org/ :)13:27
ted123brainwash: i will :D brb it didnt work lets see if restart helps13:28
ted123wow fast restart wowow13:28
ted123oops it still happends in firefox, is it app specific perhaps?13:29
brainwashyes13:30
brainwashit only zooms the website content13:30
brainwashoh, the general screen zoom is triggered via alt + scroll13:31
brainwashthe compositor is not to blame for ctrl + scroll13:32
ted123brainwash: yeah i noticed, ofc alt/ctrl is used almost simultaneously in firefox so i didnt notice13:32
ted123alt+scroll is now dead, yes :)13:33
ted123lets kill ctrl too13:33
brainwashthat's firefox specific, maybe some hidden setting lets you disable it13:33
ted123mousewheel.with_control.action in about:config13:34
ted123did it, yippi!13:34
brainwashit's possible, that other apps adopted ctrl + scroll also13:34
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etwarriorIs there a way to uninstall default games installed (minesweeper and sukdoku?)15:34
deshipuyes, just uninstall them15:35
etwarriorI tried in terminal... let me try synaptic15:36
etwarriorMaybe I did get rid of them..?15:37
etwarriorI guess I did already?15:38
etwarriorHaha, nevermind then.15:38
etwarriorIs there a way to check to see how much free space is left?15:38
etwarrioron my machine?15:38
GridCubeetwarrior: on a terminal run df -h15:41
etwarriorThanks.15:41
GridCubei think h uses base 10 and h uses base 215:41
GridCubei mean H15:41
etwarriorHow do you reply to people on IRC like you just did?15:43
GridCubetype their nick in the chat15:43
etwarriorGridCube: Is that all?15:45
GridCubeetwarrior: yep15:46
GridCubeif you want to chat with someone in private you can ask them first and if they are available you can "/msg nick message" them15:46
GridCubebut its polite to ask first15:46
GridCubeyou can use nick auto completion by typing the first letters of a nick and pressing tab15:47
etwarriorGridCube: Can I test it on you?15:51
GridCubesure15:51
jamesXFCE2so, any wifi gurus on?16:30
GridCube!ask | jamesXFCE216:35
ubottujamesXFCE2: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience16:35
jamesXFCE2rodger, Ok linux toshiba sat pro p75-a200 running Xubuntu 14.04lts. Wifi connectivity issue, home network and most perfect, work one initially wont log on until later in the day, password correct, next to nil on the router person wise, then it decides that it going to connect and does, have tried the options 11n disable etc.  not a major issue but trying to see if anyone has experience with this issue.16:39
jamesXFCE2!patience16:49
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/16:49
holstein!wifi | jamesXFCE216:58
ubottujamesXFCE2: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs16:58
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holsteinjamesXFCE2: do you have a broadcom chip?17:10
jamesXFCE2in not sure, i know it is the Intel Centrino Wireless-N 223017:12
jamesXFCE2I'm*17:12
holsteinjamesXFCE2: you can open a terminal, and run "lspci" and share the output here, or share just the line describing the wifi17:13
holstein!paste17:13
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.17:13
jamesXFCE2http://paste.ubuntu.com/9384761/17:15
holsteinjamesXFCE2: 01:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 2230 (rev c4)17:30
holsteinthats your device.. is it working in windows properly? is it working similarly on *any* wifi hotspot?17:31
jamesXFCE2it worked in windows, and most places it does fine, its here that is the issue, though the hardware here is the same firmware and version that i have at home. it connects to other wifis around me but with this one it has issues logging in until random point in the day17:33
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* XeBlackWater is away: I'm busy19:19
knomeXeBlackWater, please don't use public away messages or nicks.19:21
alphisok guys i just installed xubuntu 14.04 and can't change my wallpaper20:21
alphiscan anyone explain how something like this makes it to a stable release20:21
holsteinalphis: sure20:21
holsteinalphis: i, first, wouldnt assume that its an issue with the release.. are you certain you are installed? and rebooted into the installation?20:21
alphisoh you want to go thru the "is it turned on" questions20:24
alphisfine20:24
alphisyes20:24
alphisnext silly question?20:24
alphisapparently this is a known issue20:24
flux242have you clicked on the picture of the wallpaper?20:25
holsteinalphis: this is volunteer support, friend.. do you mind if i ask some follow up questions? it can help the volunteers better assist you..20:25
alphisright click  - desktop settings - folder - every jpg/png image is GREY20:25
alphisthis is a release issue20:25
holsteinalphis: sure, and i understand that you see it as that.. its just that i cannot reproduce that issue here20:26
holstein!bug | alphis20:26
ubottualphis: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.20:26
alphishttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2214534&page=220:26
alphishttp://software.techassistbox.com/xubuntu-unable-to-change-desktop-wallpaperbackground-in-1404_2541483.html20:26
holsteinalphis: sure.. but, i *can* change it here..20:26
alphisirrelevant20:26
alphisdoesn't work in prod20:26
holsteinalphis: works here, in production20:27
alphisi can change my wallpaper on my not xubuntu machines just fine20:27
holsteinalphis: anyways.. my first thought woud be permissions20:27
alphistried that20:27
holsteinalphis: tried what?20:27
alphisthe default images are root root but readable to all20:27
alphismy jpg, which was a wallpaper in OLD xubuntu, is set my user20:27
alphisreadable to all as well20:27
flux242post a screenshot  of everything gray20:28
alphishere let me make it more clear: -rw-r--r-- 1 user user 40929 Dec  5 13:02 img1.jpg20:28
alphissure20:28
holsteinalphis: did you upgrade? or do you have a shared /home? with other configs?20:28
holsteinalphis: would you mind creating a new user? and trying with that new user?20:29
alphishttp://i.imgur.com/luBReC8.png20:30
alphisi would have used gimp to point nice FAIL red lines20:30
alphisbut i dont have that much time on my hands20:30
alphisthis is a fresh xubuntu install20:30
alphisfrom iso LTS 14.0420:31
alphisi created only regular user during the wizard setup20:31
alphisno encryption20:31
alphisnothing special20:31
alphismy usual setup for a simple system20:31
holsteinalphis: so, you will not create a new user? then?20:31
rosaecaeruleaei forgot, how do I fix broken packages=20:31
alphisid rather not20:31
rosaecaeruleae?20:31
alphisif something else breaks should i make new users? i'd rather just fix this20:32
holsteinalphis: ok.. let me know if you'd like to. thats my next troubleshooting step to isolate the users config files..20:32
alphisim sure its a wizard problem20:32
Unit193rosaecaeruleae: What type?  There's generally either  sudo apt-get install -f  or  sudo dpkg --configure -a20:32
holsteinalphis: sure. but, we dont know what is "broken"..20:32
alphiswhats the gconf command to set wallpaper20:32
alphisas long as we know something is broken thats a first step20:32
rosaecaeruleaeUnit193, nvida drivers20:32
holsteinalphis: sure.. and we actually dont know that20:32
alphissure sure20:33
alphiswell im sure the other people with this issue on forums would appreciate that20:33
alphisanyway i just used a commandline tool to set my wallpaper20:33
alphisthe issue is obviously the wizard20:33
holsteinalphis: cool.. enjoy!20:33
alphisso you guys might want to fix that20:33
alphisits probably something during install/setup20:33
holsteinalphis: the GUI tool is working here, are you up to date with upgrades?20:33
alphisnot here and yes20:33
alphisall default20:34
alphisnothing customized20:34
alphislike i said this is as basic as u can get20:34
alphisand its failing20:34
holsteinalphis: and, are you up to date with the upgrades for the OS?20:34
alphisdoesn't matter you cannot repro20:34
alphisi advise you to build a new machine and install fresh and see20:34
rosaecaeruleaeso to repair a broken package what the command does is remove the package, so I can freshly install it again20:34
alphisholstei< alphis> not here and yes20:34
rosaecaeruleae?20:34
alphisthe yes was for upgrade holstein20:34
alphisits all updated as of right now20:35
holsteinalphis: i suggest starting a bug report.. getting someone to reproduce it will be key20:35
alphisanyway check it out thx20:35
rosaecaeruleaei cannot remove the nvidia package because my laptop is using it. I cannot install any other nvidia package, a previous version, and I dont know why20:37
rosaecaeruleaethe plan was to use an older nvidia driver, remove the faluty, broken package, reinstall it again20:37
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rosaecaeruleaei still dont know what to do about my problem, nvidia drivers as broken package21:30
rosaecaeruleaenone of the commands Unit193 pasted solved it21:31
ekahi... is there something like gnome-do for xfce?21:56
ochosieka: appfinder is a bit like it and whisker-menu too21:58
ekaochosi: which one is preferred?21:58
ochosiwhiskermenu sits in the panel like the application menu21:59
ochosiappfinder opens a separate/new window21:59
ochosiwhatever you prefer21:59
ekaochosi: appfinder works with shortcut key?21:59
ekawill look at it :D21:59
ochosiboth do22:00
ekaochosi: and synapse?22:02
ochosiwell you can always just use gnome-do as well22:02
ochosiit really doesn't matter that it carries "gnome" in its name22:02
ekaochosi: thanks22:10
ochosieka: np22:17
xanguathere is also synapse, or lighter: kupfer22:20
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