[00:52] <tricorner> I have kubuntu 9.4, its old, is there a wi fi app for that version?
[00:52] <valorie> woah
[00:52] <tricorner> or i should upgrade to kubuntu 13.10
[00:52] <valorie> that is no longer supported
[00:52] <valorie> !eol
[00:53] <genii> tricorner: Jaunty is a long time now End Of Life, I would recommend to upgrade to at least 12.04
[00:53] <valorie> 14.04 if you can
[00:53] <valorie> newish, and supported for a long time
[00:53] <genii> Yes.
[00:54] <tricorner> ok, i have a partitioned pc...one side windows 7 starter the orher part ubuntu 9.4..the guy that installed the 9.4 version tricked me..he said my pc was to small for a newr version...
[00:54] <tricorner> 14.04 has wi fi app?
[00:55] <genii> tricorner: Yes.
[00:55] <genii> tricorner: Perhaps he meant that either the hard drive partition is not large enough, or else that the computer is possibly underpowered
[00:56] <tricorner> the hard drive partition for ubunto has 116 GB, the pc is no that old..2011 netbook, 2 gb memory, intel atom
[00:57] <tricorner> genii, for iinstalling the newr version, on the partinioned ubuntu side...is possible with a flash or usb?
[00:57] <tricorner> but a dont want to put in danger the windows partition...
[00:58] <genii> tricorner: Yes, the new ISO images can be just dd right to an USB stick and install by that way now
[00:58] <genii> tricorner: I have a similar netbook setup and it runs Kubuntu 14.04 OK, but before I put an SSD quite slowly.
[01:00] <genii> tricorner: Also you'll want to be using the netbook plasma instead of the desktop one
[01:02] <tricorner_> hi
[01:03] <genii> tricorner_: What was the last thing I wrote that you saw?
[01:05] <tricorner_> genii, hi..when whe were chatin about hot to upgrade the ubunbtu 9.4 partition to 14 version
[01:05] <tricorner_> if there is a risk for the windows side...
[01:06] <genii> tricorner_: If you just dd the iso image to a usb stick and boot from that and install, there is no real problem. GRUB will see your Windows and put it on the list of bootable things
[01:08]  * genii notices it's Beer O'Clock
[01:09] <tricorner_> ok,
[01:11] <tricorner_> ok, where can i dd the 14 image? will it wotk on an atom, 2 gb memory pc?
[01:11] <tricorner_> i suppose.. jeje
[01:11] <genii> tricorner_: If you come here to the channel when you are doing the install, someone can usually help you to get it set up properly. I myself am leaving soon for today.
[01:12] <tricorner_> ok thats a lot!
[01:12] <tricorner_> nice weekend
[01:13] <genii> tricorner_: Just go to http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu  and select Kubuntu 14.04 LTS version.  If you are not sure if your chip is 32 or 64 bit, choose 32 bit
[01:13]  * genii waves
[02:20] <Krixvar> Is it possible to sync my kdeconfiguration using syncthing?
[02:20] <Krixvar> *kde configuration
[02:21] <valorie> configs for everything?
[02:21] <valorie> and what version of kubuntu are you using, Krixvar
[02:22] <Krixvar> 14.10, 64 bit if it matters
[02:22] <Krixvar> By putting my entire .kde folder into a share I was able to get my laptop to pick up my desktop's splash screen and that was it
[02:23] <valorie> well, there is also ~/.config and ~/.local
[02:23] <valorie> and something else, looking at my own system
[02:26] <valorie> more and more, configs are going into those two
[02:26] <valorie> but I would look at all the dot files - for instance if you use firefox, you'll want .mozilla
[02:26] <valorie> etc.
[02:26] <Krixvar> Thanks, I'll try that
[02:27] <valorie> you can look at and edit those files, for the most part
[02:27] <valorie> mostly text
[02:46] <Krixvar> ironically syncing some configuration file or another over broke syncthing
[02:46] <Krixvar> though I do have the color scheme so that's another step in the right direction :)
[02:53] <valorie> sure, which is why you may have to edit some config files
[02:53] <valorie> or even rename and let them be recreated
[02:53] <valorie> I used to rename and move the old .kde file over to the new machine/install
[02:54] <valorie> and then move over individual files until something broke
[02:54] <valorie> then it's easy to figure out where the conflict is
[02:54] <tricorner> can i run kububti 14.10 from a flash drive..si I dont have to install it or make partition?
[02:55] <valorie> yes, tricorner
[02:55] <valorie> !persistance
[02:55] <valorie> errr
[02:55] <tricorner> in order to try it...
[02:55] <Unit193> !persistence
[02:55] <tricorner> I dont have  CD...
[02:56] <tricorner> but a 16 gb flashdrive...
[02:56] <valorie> sheesh, bad spelling
[02:57] <valorie> it's the same instructions, tricorner
[02:57] <Krixvar> valorie: You're right, I'm thinking I don't want as much as I ended up transferring
[02:57] <valorie> no matter the media
[02:57] <Krixvar> valorie: do you happen to know where the graphical configuration is stored? Things like color scheme, widgets/panels, etc?
[02:58] <valorie> I don't, but it will be somewhere in the rc or config files
[02:58] <Krixvar> thanks
[02:58] <valorie> read some of them and find out
[02:58] <valorie> they are sorta fun to read IMO
[04:10] <Krixvar> Lots of dead ends, this is a very intriguing problem haha
[04:27] <valorie> Krixvar: still reading config files?
[04:36] <Krixvar> valorie: yup, though now that I tried copying it with a flash drive it appears that simply copying my .kde folder is enough to transfer the configuration that I want to transfer
[04:37] <valorie> excellent
[04:38] <Krixvar> and to prevent conflicts I'm going to make my desktop a master, so it pushes out but doesn't get changed versions sent back
[04:40] <Guest23913> Kubuntu is Ubuntu but with KDE?
[04:40] <valorie> yes
[04:40] <valorie> we are one of the many 'flavors' of Ubuntu
[04:41] <valorie> plasma rather than unity, for instance, and different applications
[04:41] <valorie> however, you can use any application on any desktop
[04:44] <Guest23913> oh ok
[04:45] <Guest23913> But you guys have your own community. It 's not developed by Canonical
[04:45] <Guest23913> right?
[04:45] <valorie> sure
[04:45] <valorie> Canonical does a few things like phone, unity, mir, juju
[04:45] <valorie> the community builds most things in Ubuntu
[04:46] <valorie> I think Kubuntu was the first flavor since the ubuntu-desktop used to be Gnome
[04:46] <Unit193> Canonical does infra, so buildds, servers, etc, etc.
[04:46] <Unit193> valorie: Right.
[04:47] <valorie> thanks Unit193 - that is very important to us indeed
[04:47] <valorie> the lists, the servers, spinning the ISOs and then serving them
[04:47] <valorie> supporting freenode so we have this chan
[04:49] <Guest23913> I see now
[04:49] <Guest23913> Thanks valorie
[04:50] <valorie> you are very welcome
[04:50] <valorie> we aren't all guys, either!
[04:50] <valorie> lol
[05:32] <hypokrit> 30 min later   lol
[06:35] <kailash> hey guys!
[06:50] <oddwel> Oh, a chat :o
[06:51] <valorie> indeed, although this is the help chan
[06:52] <valorie> for "chat" as such we have #kubuntu-offtopic
[09:26] <rnms> hi
[09:26] <rnms> any hackers here
[10:51] <floown> hello
[10:52] <floown> I  have a big email-log from Logwatch, I have these lines : http://pastebin.com/fkE2HGYN
[10:52] <floown> someone can help me please?
[10:52] <bazhang> !crosspost | floown
[10:53] <floown> sorry
[12:10] <kaddi> any major issues known with the upgrade to 14.10?
[13:19] <BluesKaj_> 'Morning all
[14:52] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[18:17] <Drabuntu> ist dieser chat deutsch?
[18:18] <soee> !nl
[18:19] <soee> !de
[18:26] <lordievader> soee: Dutch ain't German, though it looks similar ;)
[18:27] <soee> lordievader:  deutsch = german i think
[18:27] <soee> first i thought dutch that why i used nl
[18:36] <lordievader> soee: IIRC Deutsch is German in German.
[20:17] <Baughn> Trying to install 14.10, but the installer just boots to a black screen saying something about saned not starting.
[20:18] <Baughn> Which is a scanner driver. I don't have a scanner. :O
[20:18] <Baughn> (I know saned isn't the problem. Nouveau, on the other hand..)
[20:20] <Baughn> However, even if I add nomodeset and manually install the nvidia driver, then restart sddm, I just get a black screen.
[20:26] <BluesKaj> Baughn, use lightdm
[20:27] <BluesKaj> on 14.10
[20:27] <Baughn> Well.. how? I'm talking about the installer image.
[20:27] <Baughn> Downloading the plasma-4 version now, though.
[20:28] <BluesKaj> sddm is default on plasma 5 and isn't very 14.10 friendly IME, so install lightdm
[20:32] <lordievader> Baughn: Try the nomodeset kernel parameter.
[20:33] <Baughn> Tried it. See above.
[20:34] <lordievader> Ah, I didn't read properly. Execuse me ;)
[21:13] <Baughn> lordievader: Plasma 4 worked just fine.
[21:18] <lordievader> Baughn: Lightdm or still ssdm?
[21:33] <Baughn> lordievader: Lightdm
[23:12] <karambi> Hello
[23:12] <karambi> Is possible to have overlay scrollbars in Plasma?