[00:06] <gaughen> jcastro, a bit of a delayed response here but yes I've pointed the team to the list and we'll try to tackle some of that list.. it's quite a backlog!
[01:11] <lakin> sarnold: was it you who helped me earlier? If it was, we switched from mod_wsgi to mod_proxy + gunicorn and the issue went away
[01:11] <lakin> I suspect we misconfigured mod_wsgi somehow
[01:12] <sarnold> lakin: excellent, thanks :)
[01:13] <sarnold> bugger about mod_wsgi; if you've got time / inclination, a bug report might be nice.
[01:13] <lakin> If I can find time, I'll see what I can figure out about why it wasn't working. I've had good luck with mod_wsgi before
[01:13] <sarnold> great, thanks
[01:13] <sarnold> I've only ever dealt with it in test suites where it was bloody frustrating, but I can't pin that entirely on mod_wsgi; at least django and apache share some blame there. hehe. :)
[01:14] <lakin> sarnold: yes, yes they do
[01:14] <lakin> If only we lived in world with perfect tools
[01:14] <sarnold> lakin: then we could spend all our time sipping tasty beverages on the beach!
[01:14] <sarnold> while our computers do all the work! haha!
[01:14] <lakin> exactly
[01:15] <sarnold> oh well, glad you guys figured out how to move forward )
[01:15] <lakin> Yeah, it's been a fun few days
[01:15] <Patrickdk> it seems like apache is moving to using mod_proxy more, than mod_wscgi/fcgi/...
[01:16] <Patrickdk> now if I could figure out this rabbitmq bit :)
[01:16] <Patrickdk> (people haven't emailed me the login or hostname info to locate it yet)
[01:16] <sarnold> more leafy greens, I think rabbits like those :)
[01:16] <lakin> I've used RabbitMQ to pretty good effect recently
[01:16] <Patrickdk> and for some reason it's running on windows, and I don't have login info for that either
[01:16] <lakin> Having a distributed task queue system setup in your env can be quite good
[01:17] <Patrickdk> I'm lazy :)
[01:17] <Patrickdk> I use mysql tables for that :)
[01:17] <lakin> Using MySQL at this point in my career always sounds like the option with more work
[01:17] <Patrickdk> depends :)
[01:17] <Patrickdk> my needs are simple
[01:17] <Patrickdk> and I need mysql for other things
[01:18] <Patrickdk> seems pointless to setup something else, learn it, and then only use 2 queues on it
[01:18] <lakin> There is definitely something to be said about separating out your app code from your battle-tested front-facing web server.
[01:18] <Patrickdk> and then have to maintain it
[01:18] <lakin> It's much more likely you made a mistake than it is
[01:18] <Patrickdk> heh?
[01:18] <Patrickdk> front facing web server?
[01:18] <lakin> That's a good part of the reason why people move to mod_proxy
[01:18] <Patrickdk> what does this have to do with a webserver?
[01:18] <lakin> Apache2 + mod_proxy as your front end server
[01:18] <Patrickdk> oh, that
[01:19] <lakin> in a separate process/memory space
[01:19] <lakin> Sorry, two conversation
[01:19] <lakin> s
[01:19] <Patrickdk> ya, I got 3 layers going on like that :)
[01:19] <Patrickdk> apache proxy/mod_security -> apache/fcgi/....
[01:19] <Patrickdk> use the front one for loadbalancing/failover/security checks
[01:20] <Patrickdk> and then the backends
[01:20] <Patrickdk> or guess, middleware
[01:20] <Patrickdk> whatever the current term is :)
[01:20] <lakin> I thought your needs were simple?
[01:20] <lakin> ;)
[01:20] <Patrickdk> those where *customer* needs, not mine :)
[01:20] <lakin> *grin*
[01:20] <Patrickdk> we get payed more by overengineering it
[01:35] <lakin> in any case, thanks again. Later.
[01:42] <Quoexl> Hi guys, got a strange thing going on, I have an Amd x2 machine with both a nvidia network card and a marvell network card, neither will catch dhcp on install of 12.04 server, just to test the network cards I installed windows and both work properly. this machine ran 12.04 server unattended for the last 4 months at my shop now I bring it home and nuttin
[02:11] <pmatulis> Quoexl: are you installing using the exact same ISO as before?
[02:16] <Quoexl> well I dont really know, I pulled it down from ubuntu
[02:16] <Quoexl> could the 12.04.5 be doing this to me?
[02:27] <pmatulis> Quoexl: could be a regression, yes
[02:28] <pmatulis> Quoexl: try using an older 12.04 ISO
[02:29] <pmatulis> Quoexl: stupidly, the original one is no longer found on the main mirrors.  the last time i checked you could only get it from oldreleases.ubuntu.com or whatever it's called
[02:31] <Quoexl> pmatulis: download already in progress, I KNOW this is the problem
[02:31] <Quoexl> I was trying to install 12.04.5
[02:31] <pmatulis> Quoexl: ok good.  lemme know what happens
[02:32] <Quoexl> itll be about half an hour if youre still around
[02:32] <pmatulis> Quoexl: i'll be here
[02:32] <sarnold> the original 12.04 has been moved off the main mirrors? annoying..
[02:33] <pmatulis> sarnold: indeed, especially for a supported ISO, until 2017
[02:33] <sarnold> pmatulis: yeah, that's the only way to get e.g. virtualbox to work on 12.04; it shouldn't be so hidden..
[02:33] <pmatulis> sarnold: mentioned it, got a shrug
[02:34] <sarnold> gah..
[02:36] <Quoexl> this just in 12.04.5 dropped the drivers for my network cards
[02:36] <pmatulis> Quoexl: tested already?
[02:36] <Quoexl> google
[02:36] <pmatulis> k
[02:37] <pmatulis> Quoexl: nvidia and marvell on a server?
[02:37] <Quoexl> the cards are good, I installed winders and they work
[02:37] <Quoexl> its a kinda sorta server
[02:37] <pmatulis> ha ha
[02:38] <Quoexl> its got 4tb raided in it, so fileserver duty it is
[02:38] <Quoexl> which is actually 8tb
[02:38] <Quoexl> thinking of putting owncloud back on it
[02:45] <Quoexl> ok going to test the theory now
[02:46] <pmatulis> s/theory/hypothesis
[02:47] <pmatulis> ;)
[02:57] <Quoexl> there's a knot in my string theory
[02:57]  * pmatulis listening
[02:57] <Quoexl> still no dhcp on either card
[02:59] <pmatulis> hmm, check the status of the cards by getting into a console
[02:59] <sarnold> nuts, I liked that theory^Whypothesis :)
[02:59] <Quoexl> I'm just trying to install, it crashes at apt
[03:00] <Quoexl> this is driving me to drink
[03:05] <Quoexl> I'm about to go at the innerds of this computer with hedge clippers
[03:35] <samba35> i am trying to configure ethernet card with pci passthrough on kvm when i try to detach card i am geting this message/error   -------error: Failed to detach device pci_0000_07_02_0
[03:35] <samba35> error: Operation not supported: neither VFIO nor KVM device assignment is currently supported on this system
[03:50] <hamnstar_> hello server folk
[03:50] <hamnstar_> I'm having some issues updating slapd due to some custom objectClass / attributes... the postinstall script fails specifically.  anyone here handy? (the #openldap people seem dormant tonight)
[04:22] <pmatulis> hamnstar_: best is to pastebin details of these custom objectClasses and their attributes, and related schemas
[04:44] <hamnstar_> pmautils: thanks, i did mange to get it working by copying over all of the slapd.d contents into a new install
[09:43] <lordievader> JediMaster: Sounds like fun, but it ain't too obvious from an attackers POV?
[10:26] <JediMaster> lordievader: it's just yet another php script running in cron, and it runs every 5 minutes, so it's unlikely it would be noticed, at least in time for it not to notice that the files had been comprimised
[10:27] <JediMaster> also doesn't need to be run as root
[11:39] <Remie> Somebody available to help me with dspam?, running 14.10 server and i cant install it, I looked at launchpad and it says status deleted, why?
[11:42] <lordievader> Remie: Perhaps because there is no upstream?
[11:43] <lordievader> Remie: There is a utopic bzr though: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/utopic/dspam/utopic
[13:36] <derrum> Hello, i can not boot onto my server anymore but i can access the server over a rescue system. I have to switch grub back to a working kernel how can i do that when the system is offline so iu can not use update-grub?
[14:11] <Patrickdk> heh? changing kernels has nothing to do with update-grub
[14:11] <Patrickdk> you just select the other kernel from the grub boot meneu
[14:14] <derrum> There is no grub boot menu
[14:17] <Patrickdk> if there isn't, then changing the kernel won't do any good
[14:17] <Patrickdk> cause you can't do that, till you get to the grub menu
[14:17] <Patrickdk> so you need to fix grub first
[14:18] <Patrickdk> so your issue is probably not the kernel
[14:19] <derrum> The system is offline i work on it over a rescue system. I need to change a grub setting on the offline system and it needs to take the setting over when i bring it online again
[14:19] <Patrickdk> that makes no sense
[14:19] <Patrickdk> settings?
[14:19] <Patrickdk> changing grub settings won't help at all
[14:19] <Patrickdk> if you don't get the grub menu
[14:19] <Patrickdk> no settings are required to get the grub menu
[14:20] <Patrickdk> and all settings can be changed from the grub menu
[14:20] <Patrickdk> therefor, your diagnostic conclusion of the issue, is incorrect
[14:25] <derrum> There is no grub boot menu where i could change anything
[14:26] <Patrickdk> if there isn't changing things in grub won't help or solve anything
[14:26] <Patrickdk> cause grub isn't starting
[14:27] <Patrickdk> if grub doesn't start, what help does changing it's settings do?
[14:28] <derrum> It is starting but its starting without showing a menu. It loads a kernel just a wrong one because the option says so.
[14:28] <Patrickdk> so the grub is starting and the menu does come up then?
[14:29] <Patrickdk> well, just boot it, adjust it, and continue on with life
[14:29] <Patrickdk> just change the settings in the menu, done
[14:52] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[16:19] <cpined> help.  I have an asus laptop.  I installed Unity desktop and everything was good.  I then decided to re-install ubuntu server on it instead and install the gnome desktop which I like but now my internet access fails after a minute or so.
[16:21] <cpined> The same server install on my desktop with a different GUI works fine.
[16:23] <lordievader> cpined: How was the internet before you installed Unity?
[16:24] <cpined> when I first installed unity months ago the internet access worked.  Yesterday I installed gnome and internet access fails.
[16:25] <cpined> But months ago I installed the normal Unbuntu desktop, yesterday I installed the Unbuntu server.
[16:27] <cpined> I really don't want to revert to the Ubuntu Desktop.
[16:27] <JanC> that is not really a server question; so beter ask it in the regular support channel, you'll find more people there to answer...
[16:27] <cpined> ok, thanks.
[16:47] <lordievader> cpined: If you installed the ubuntu-desktop package then there is no difference between what you have and the Ubuntu Desktop.
[18:26] <tomstorey> hi all, wonder if someone can help me ... i am trying to work out why my configuration in /etc/network/interfaces is seemingly being "ignored"
[18:27] <tomstorey> ubuntu 14.04 server
[18:27] <bekks> So pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces please
[18:29] <tomstorey> http://pastebin.com/7srXgV4X
[18:30] <tomstorey> primarily i am concerned with the ipv6 address
[18:30] <tomstorey> it doesnt seem to be configuring
[18:30] <bekks> Sorry, no clues about IPv6 here, I'm still happy with IPv4 :)
[18:31] <tomstorey> ok, so maybe you can help me a little still
[18:31] <tomstorey> the original version of my config had .1 as the ipv4 address
[18:31] <tomstorey> as a test i tried changing it to .2 as you see in the pastebin
[18:31] <tomstorey> but after doing an ifconfig down and ifconfig up it didnt change to .2
[18:31] <tomstorey> stays as .1
[18:32] <teward> you might need to reboot - i noticed that being the case on two 14.04 VMs which had their static addresses changed
[18:32] <teward> (shouldn't be the case, but sometimes is o.o)
[18:32] <bekks> ifdown, ifup, not ifconfig.
[18:32] <tomstorey> ifdown gives me "interface not configured"
[18:33] <bekks> Because it isnt.
[18:33] <bekks> Somethings wrong, thats why it isnt configured.
[18:33] <tomstorey> but it shows up when i run ifconfig? or do i misunderstand what configured means :)
[18:34] <bekks> ifconfig -a show all interfaces, regardless of their configuration state. ifdown/ifup will actually use the configuration given for shutting down/configuring an interface.
[18:36] <tomstorey> hmm ok
[18:36] <tomstorey> so i commented out all of the ipv6 config, and now it seems that ifdown/ifup work, and my new ip has taken effect
[18:36] <tomstorey> so its something related to the ipv6 config i guess
[18:42] <tomstorey> i think i may need to reboot this :-/
[18:42] <tomstorey> this isnt windows 95!
[18:47] <lordievader> tomstorey: Do you want to read a rant on why you shouldn't use ifconfig?
[18:48] <tomstorey> no? :)
[18:48] <lordievader> http://inai.de/2008/02/19
[18:50] <tomstorey> sorry i thought you were going to write one here :)
[18:50] <tomstorey> ive just discovered ip addr *
[18:50] <tomstorey> and i think i have managed to resolve my problem
[18:52] <tomstorey> using ip addr show i saw that the ipv4 address i was trying to configure was already configured
[18:53] <tomstorey> used ip addr del to remove it
[18:53] <tomstorey> ipv6 working :)
[19:02] <tomstorey> so i think it was getting stuck up trying to reconfigure an ip that was already in use, and just never getting to the ipv6 portion of it
[21:49] <lnxmen> hello
[21:49] <lnxmen> I have two servers - master and slave.
[21:50] <lnxmen> When I try to connect to MySQL database from master to slave, I get:
[21:50] <lnxmen> mysqli_connect(): (HY000/2013): Lost connection to MySQL server at 'reading initial communication packet', system error: 0
[21:50] <lnxmen> I added appropiate IPs to /etc/hosts.allow
[21:50] <lnxmen> And restarted network daemons.
[21:52] <bekks> And how did you configure the replication?
[22:01] <lnxmen> I used PHPFox - it has support for replication.
[22:01] <lnxmen> Sorry, for delay.
[22:03] <lnxmen> It's strange, because it worked properly yesterday.
[22:09] <lnxmen> Disk is full, that causes the problem.
[23:33] <lvmer> for /etc/network/interfaces  how many dns-nameservers can you specify?
[23:34] <bekks> lvmer: As many as you want, but more than three is pretty much pointless.
[23:34] <lvmer> had set it up with 8.8.8.8 years ago, but it seems really slow nowadays. pings at ~17ms, but the first ping takes like 5,000-10,000ms
[23:34] <lvmer> bekks thanks :)
[23:34] <bekks> ping is not a dns request :)
[23:35] <lvmer> true
[23:39] <lvmer> how is 14.04 and 14.10?
[23:39] <bekks> Good.
[23:40] <bekks> For a server, alsways use a LTS release.
[23:40] <lvmer> That's a good idea. I'm running 13.10 now. I just got the upgrade bug lol. Threw my bond0 out of loop lol. Should've stuck with 12.04 and gone straight to 14
[23:41] <lvmer> this way about a year ago lol
[23:41] <lvmer> or 6months? who knows
[23:42] <lvmer> I think I'm still on samba 3.6 or something, But smb4 was out like 2 years ago now right? I should upgrade?
[23:42] <bekks> You should update to s supported Ubuntu release, in first place.
[23:43] <lvmer> ^^ true.
[23:43] <lvmer> it's scary though. Isn't it?
[23:43] <bekks> Whats scary?
[23:44] <lvmer> I'm sorry, might come across as weird. But I'm a huge ubuntu noob. I learned it all like 2-4 years ago. Built a server and then let it pretty much coast. Naturally, as I don't work in IT, I forgot most of it
[23:44] <lvmer> :(
[23:44] <lvmer> I guess just run apt-get distro-update or something. Shouldn't I check like library or something first?
[23:45] <lvmer> you know, probably just link me a tutorial. I'll do it. why not.
[23:45] <bekks> !eolupgrade
[23:45] <bekks> And backup first:
[23:45] <bekks> !backup
[23:45] <lvmer> oh yah lol that's why I never did it
[23:45] <lvmer> backing up. haha. Cause I'd have to test restore first. ah O.O
[23:46] <bekks> What are you talking about, exactly?
[23:46] <bekks> Did you even read the articles given?
[23:47] <lvmer> reading.
[23:47] <lvmer> Was talking about testing the backup. I read you always should test a backup
[23:47] <lvmer> before trusting it
[23:47] <lvmer> as in "restoring"
[23:47] <lvmer> sorry for not being clear
[23:49] <lvmer> got to be honest, this community rocks. I've fixed a lot of problems reading these tutorials. Really well written.  Wish I had a partner in person or on raidcall/mumble and didn't have to read as much, but heck they are good.
[23:51] <lvmer> before I upgrade I wanted to test 1 more thing cause I received a disk error a week ago. What would be the best way to check a software raid 10 disk volume and possibly repair minor errors?  All information stored on the raid10 array is redundant. So just want to make sure any possible sectors are repaired. Losing small amounts of date during a repair is ok.