| cmaloney | Evening | 01:32 |
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| dzho | plug-in diesel, eh? | 02:33 |
| dzho | I've been wondering when that would be done. | 02:34 |
| dzho | More of a mystery to me is why urban fleet vehicles aren't going over to hybrid more. | 02:34 |
| dzho | lots of low-speed, high-torque, short-distance, high-idle driving there. | 02:35 |
| dzho | city buses, school buses, UPS/FedEX/USPS, they should all be going to hybrid like great gangbusters. | 02:35 |
| dzho | or, pure electric | 02:36 |
| * dzho is unclear as to what the difference would be between a passat SW or a Golf SW | 02:37 | |
| dzho | or a jetta SW for that matter | 02:38 |
| dzho | ISTR there have recently been passat wagons | 02:38 |
| * dzho has the 2011 jetta Sw | 02:38 | |
| greg-g | all of the buses in SF are hybrid or all electric | 05:59 |
| greg-g | and a bunch of the cabs are too | 05:59 |
| dzho | that sounds more like a poltical decision than a business one, though. I'm trying to figure out why, as a business decision, this isn't being done more at the fleet level. | 14:20 |
| cmaloney | dzho: Because replacing a fleet can be expensive | 14:22 |
| cmaloney | I think they're waiting until the current fleet falls completely apart. | 14:23 |
| dzho | the big operators I mention are so big that they must be doing replacements on an almost continuous basis | 14:23 |
| dzho | at least, frequently | 14:23 |
| dzho | and their fuel bills must be huge | 14:24 |
| dzho | I suppose they are tied into futures contracts in a big way, but . . . it's not like hybrids haven't been a thing now for a decade at least | 14:24 |
| dzho | by the way, the US Today that comes as part of our local paper here did a review of the electric Golf | 14:25 |
| dzho | mentioned that the Jetta Sportswagen was renamed to the Golf Sportswagen to a) capitalize on the popularity of that name here and b) to better reflect its origins | 14:25 |
| cmaloney | Nice. | 14:26 |
| * dzho recalls that VW has done some weird things with their cross-atlantic branding, eg, the Golf in Europe was first called the Rabbit here. | 14:26 | |
| cmaloney | I wonder too if there's a training cost for the maint. folks. | 14:26 |
| cmaloney | and if that is somehow prohibitive. | 14:26 |
| dzho | death by a thousand cuts, yeah. | 14:27 |
| dzho | well, and now you have UPS advertizing on NPR about how they are green because they are using natural gas | 14:27 |
| dzho | which has so many things going on with it that I literally can't even | 14:27 |
| cmaloney | Yeah, Ford was big on propane for fleet vehicles | 14:28 |
| cmaloney | not sure if they still are. | 14:28 |
| cmaloney | bbl | 14:28 |
| cmaloney | Afternoon | 18:09 |
| cmaloney | reminder: We have our meeting tomorrow at 9pm | 18:09 |
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